German party wants "commitment in front of cameras"

I dont see a problem with that. The fact is we do want to make a deal, just one which is fair and takes Serbia's political and historical rights into consideration. I truly believe that Serbia will be a good partner for the EU, in all spheres. Serbia will be the driver of the Balkan economy, and everyone will benefit. I think it is time for the Americans and Germans to look forward a bit and also put pressure on Thaci. Holding Serbia back is not helping anyone.

Deutschland Deutschland uber alles. Just because it isn't sung any more, doesn't mean it is forgotten. The German masters want the vassals to bow down before them. Again.

Does anyone see a pattern forming here with the Germans? A few days ago they propose that Cyprus raid the bank accounts of its depositors. The accounts are not all money launderers, but the majority are citizens whose life savings will be jeopardized. Now, the Germans want the Balkan stooges in front of cameras, making commitments to each other, like a cable reality show. German wants this, Germany wants that, who made them boss, again? Multiple wars, and multiple unimaginable crimes, including the world's worst genocide, still has not dampened this country's thirst for power. I would tell them to take their suggestions and shove them, if they want a freak show on camera, they can always film Merkel speaking at the Bundestag.

They want it on camera cuz they are probably sick of everyone saying whatever they want one day and something else the next day.

The photos show the Konrad Adenauer Foundadion (close to the CDU) is present, the same thinktank that demanded Serbia's unconditional surrender last month in its paper for a final solution in Kosovo.

German foundation drafts "Kosovo agreement"

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=03&dd=11&nav_id=85107

Andreas Schockenhoff, Deputy Whip of the ruling CDU/CSU coalition is making his demands whilst still protecting war crimnals and drug lords in their new balkan province. Wonders never cease...

This is just getting silly now. It's time to say no to the EU/Germans.

Suk-it Pax Garmania at any cost eh?
Serbia should kick those people out of Serbia, shame on all of you politicians in Serbia. Grow a set already!!

Nikolic in front of the cameras, renouncing Serbian territorial integrity. That will be the day.
Seriously it is a good idea because this will be a record of the promises and commitments they say they have made and puts an end to the flip-flopping statements made by either side so far.

Their Parliament at this point seems unwilling to go along with the idea.
(Amer, 19 March 2013 19:17)

Don't you worry,Merkel is going to force them to vote several times until she gets her desired result.Hitler is dead but fascism through the back door is still alive.

What I would tell my compatriots in Cyprus is to stick with their decision and tell the EU fascist bastards to go and f*** themselves.Period.

This is just getting silly now. It's time to say no to the EU/Germans.
(Mike, 19 March 2013 15:05)


I can not stop laughing with comments like yours. Serbia is begging day and night to joing EU but if you listen to some ignorants like you is like EU is asking you to joing them. As long as you got the basics facts wrong, you dont deserv to be on earth and ket alone EU.

"The visible will" could be demonstrated by "the presidents or prime ministers committing themselves in written or oral form, in front of the cameras, that both governments want to, during the accession talks, regulate the normalization in a legally binding manner".

Possibly the delegation from Germany has offered to deliver the speeches and costumes for the theatre-performance under title "Faust part III", a representative from the Christian Democrats will perform Mephisto.

In this photo, Andreas Schockenhoff looks sickly ... like he might need to go back to rehab. Has a history of drunk driving and had to go away to dry out.

Ah, just give him a few drinks and put him on a bus back to Germany.

Now why would Germany want to do that and make Thaci out to be the liar we already know he is but now have a video to constantly remind him when he reneges on what's he's forced to agree to? He's under enough stress at it is :)

What I would tell my compatriots in Cyprus is to stick with their decision and tell the EU fascist bastards to go and f*** themselves.Period.
(Leonidas, 19 March 2013 22:51)

My sentiments exactly. Perfectly said Leonidas. I wish Serbia had some politicians with real cojones to tell the Germans this to their face, and tell them to get out of Serbia, they are not welcome. They have brought nothing but death and destruction with their actions, and they will never change.

" few days ago they propose that Cyprus raid the bank accounts of its depositors. ..."

The Germans certainly have no intention of taxing themselves to protect the off-shore accounts of Russian billionaires. It was the Cyprus government that decided to limit the hit on major (i.e., Russian) depositors by broadening the base to include their own small depositors. Their Parliament at this point seems unwilling to go along with the idea.

In front of cameras or else it is not real? what should they do, shake hands? Hug? Sing a song? Such as "Alle Menschen werden Brüder"?

stanac, the Germans can ask anything they want because they are in a privileged position. The are the masters of EU and definitively the paymasters. It is like contemplating buying a house or a car. If you feel that the asking price is too high you can walk away from the deal. Nobody is forcing you to commit yourself.

Nikoll, there are 2 Greek states and both of them bankrupt.
(Joe, 20 March 2013 12:43)

Instead of following the "one liner venomous Albanian postings" and post ignorant comments you should try to see the Cyprus banking crisis in a historical context and then make judgements.The Greek Cypriot banking system was crippled by contagion from the Greek bondholder haircuts. The articles in the German press with regard to the bailout in Greece are loaded with lies and half truths.It was the Greek and Greek Cypriot banks,pension funds,mutual funds and private bondholders who suffered more than 60% loses on the value of their bond holdings because of the 50% reduction on Greece's debt and not the German taxpayers.In fact the German taxpayers have made profits from the Greek bailout.

http://www.cityam.com/article/ecb-profits-its-greek-bonds

At the moment the score stands People of Cyprus 1- Merkel 0 and Cyprus should re-enforce the decision made by its parliament by leaving the Eurozone,introduce currency controls to prevent the flight of capital and re denominate all the money in its banks into Cypriot pounds (of which it can, of course, print an unlimited supply off its own back) and default on its external debts or agree to pay its creditors sometime in the future.

Cyprus is not a poor country but potentially a very rich one when one takes into consideration its significant energy reserves.

-http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/cyprus-election-gas-idUSL5N0BE78T20130215

Yes and after Nikolic must lick the boots of the German Ambassador...
Incredible these Germans are going nuts !

Is Serbia even following how Germany/EU is treating Cyprus? They want now to get their hands on depositors bank accounts there to cover the government's and bank financiers' debts?

Look at all the EU countries having problems. Only the core EU countries, such as Germany do the best.

Serbia should at least put their EU quest on hold for a few years.

Also notice these demands and requests SAY NOTHING ABOUT SERBIAN REFUGEES RETURNING AND LIVING SAFELY IN KOSOVO.
It says nothing about Serbia's property usurped and damaged by the Albanians and NATO.

Why is Serbia doing what these bullies want? They forever move the goal posts and can always bring up more or more exacting demands. There's something sadistic in their ways!

Hypocrits !.

Se to it that Germany first normalise Her Relations with Historical Serbia if She can !.

Arn.Sweden.

Throw these bums out of the country just like their forefathers before them!

(Joe, 20 March 2013 20:02)

Who says that I feel sorry for all those scumbag banksters? Unlike what you say,banks do not gamble with their own money but with their clients ones.The banksters have introduced fractional reserves which turned into leveraging clients deposits many times and turned everyone and every business into a slave to debt repayments for a fiat currency.

Banks around the world are bankrupt and bankrupts always need more capital hence all the printing. They will also need us to keep on buying their worthless 'assets' that no one else would touch with an extra long barge pole, on their off balance sheet books kept in their basement and marked to fantasy - for about the next two hundred years.

The show must go on, but the bottom line is that Kosovo was and always will be Serbia.

oooo poor Cyprus. the country is bankrupt already and a haven for Russian mobsters. they want to be bailed out, but not want to have to pay anything back. not a shred of sympathy for them. its just Greece mark two, though a lot worse. strange how people blame the EU and Germany for their own financial mismanagement.

Nikoll, there are 2 Greek states and both of them bankrupt. If there would be 3 of them I am just wondering if all 3 would be bankrupt. Isn't it strange?

Who cares...
100 Years ago Germany was one of the biggest and strongest countries!
But now Germany is dying and surly will become Turkestan 2.0 if this trend goes on for several decades.

I mean countries like Iraq/Kenia/Ugana/Yemen will have more then 100.000 Mil people in 2050 and Germany will decrease to 65/70 Mil people with many foreigners and elderly people = No more influence, perhaps the political elite will have influence but as a country Germany will be nothing anymore, not like 19/20th C and WW2..

When the Cash cow NATO leaves Kosovo will be for the take!
Time will be our greatest friend!

Amer, the peripheral countries of the EU should also be unwilling to keep supporting the German die hard ambition to keep the Euro Zone alive, even though it is on life support. Who has prospered the most from this Union, who has had the most benefit from this EU? The ones that are doing everything they can from it collapsing, even proposing stealing money from bank account holders, in another country, mind you. If the EU was so concerned about Russians placing their money in Cyprus, they could have proposed banking laws, laws that all EU countries would have had to respect. Now, that their butts are against the wall again, with another EU member in dire straits, they want to openly steal money from savers. I just wonder how many rich Germans had accounts in Cyprus, and how many pulled their money out before the account raid was proposed. You defend Germans blindly, I understand, they are a major supporter of Albanians in Kosovo, but in this case with Cyprus banks, they are wrong, and evil, and you are incorrect too.

To explain what Germany knows about Western Balkan. Today the officail TV-channel was broadcasting the ceremony n Rome for the new pope. When Djukanovic from Montenegro was introduced to the pope the commentator (top officail from Vatican and professor) was aying this is Thaci from Kosovo. And commenting the interpreter between Djukanovic and the pope the "expert" said, the pope can not understand and speak "Kosovarian" language. Serbia should accept his real position in a world with so many bigger and more important countries.

Typical Germans. Unlike Brits and French, Germans don't do politics. Straight forward answer; Yes or No there is no maybe!

You got to love these Germans, no wonder their machines their science and their engineering is wonder-bar.

I love my Passat, especially since I know was build in BRD, a country that does not know and do politics.

If he thinks there should be some sort of Verdun style hugging between Serb and KS leader he is wrong. The economic depression in KS and certainly only slightly better economy in Serbia makes it difficult to forget the past as there is no future.

So I am sorry German delegations but I do not think you will see Thaqi and Dacic snogging, not yet.

Wow, Leonidas, you used to write smarter comments. Apparently you get very emotional this time and overlook that your compatriots in Cyprus are down on their knees and can't play the tough guys. It is the EU who could send them somewhere but I guess they will be compassionate again (like with you guys in Greece by writing of part of the huge debts)and help out after all.

Leonidas, it is more than fair that those who gamble with their own money like Cypriot banks and funds hold the bag and lose big time by those haircuts and not the German taxpayer, who generally is very conservative with his money. So Greeks invested by Greeks and lost. It happens. "Don't cry for my Argentina....". As for Cyprus rich in energy deposits maybe the Russians will consider it and give Cyprus few billions. The big hope of Cyprus right now is the saving action of Russia. As I read the Cypriot finance minister doesn't want to leave Moscow until a big help package is agreed. So let see how long he will remain there.

This is just getting silly now. It's time to say no to the EU/Germans.
(Mike, 19 March 2013 15:05)


I can not stop laughing with comments like yours. Serbia is begging day and night to joing EU but if you listen to some ignorants like you is like EU is asking you to joing them. As long as you got the basics facts wrong, you dont deserv to be on earth and ket alone EU.

Suk-it Pax Garmania at any cost eh?
Serbia should kick those people out of Serbia, shame on all of you politicians in Serbia. Grow a set already!!

Typical Germans. Unlike Brits and French, Germans don't do politics. Straight forward answer; Yes or No there is no maybe!

You got to love these Germans, no wonder their machines their science and their engineering is wonder-bar.

I love my Passat, especially since I know was build in BRD, a country that does not know and do politics.

This is just getting silly now. It's time to say no to the EU/Germans.

Deutschland Deutschland uber alles. Just because it isn't sung any more, doesn't mean it is forgotten. The German masters want the vassals to bow down before them. Again.

I dont see a problem with that. The fact is we do want to make a deal, just one which is fair and takes Serbia's political and historical rights into consideration. I truly believe that Serbia will be a good partner for the EU, in all spheres. Serbia will be the driver of the Balkan economy, and everyone will benefit. I think it is time for the Americans and Germans to look forward a bit and also put pressure on Thaci. Holding Serbia back is not helping anyone.

To explain what Germany knows about Western Balkan. Today the officail TV-channel was broadcasting the ceremony n Rome for the new pope. When Djukanovic from Montenegro was introduced to the pope the commentator (top officail from Vatican and professor) was aying this is Thaci from Kosovo. And commenting the interpreter between Djukanovic and the pope the "expert" said, the pope can not understand and speak "Kosovarian" language. Serbia should accept his real position in a world with so many bigger and more important countries.

Does anyone see a pattern forming here with the Germans? A few days ago they propose that Cyprus raid the bank accounts of its depositors. The accounts are not all money launderers, but the majority are citizens whose life savings will be jeopardized. Now, the Germans want the Balkan stooges in front of cameras, making commitments to each other, like a cable reality show. German wants this, Germany wants that, who made them boss, again? Multiple wars, and multiple unimaginable crimes, including the world's worst genocide, still has not dampened this country's thirst for power. I would tell them to take their suggestions and shove them, if they want a freak show on camera, they can always film Merkel speaking at the Bundestag.

If he thinks there should be some sort of Verdun style hugging between Serb and KS leader he is wrong. The economic depression in KS and certainly only slightly better economy in Serbia makes it difficult to forget the past as there is no future.

So I am sorry German delegations but I do not think you will see Thaqi and Dacic snogging, not yet.

The photos show the Konrad Adenauer Foundadion (close to the CDU) is present, the same thinktank that demanded Serbia's unconditional surrender last month in its paper for a final solution in Kosovo.

German foundation drafts "Kosovo agreement"

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=03&dd=11&nav_id=85107

Andreas Schockenhoff, Deputy Whip of the ruling CDU/CSU coalition is making his demands whilst still protecting war crimnals and drug lords in their new balkan province. Wonders never cease...

Yes and after Nikolic must lick the boots of the German Ambassador...
Incredible these Germans are going nuts !

stanac, the Germans can ask anything they want because they are in a privileged position. The are the masters of EU and definitively the paymasters. It is like contemplating buying a house or a car. If you feel that the asking price is too high you can walk away from the deal. Nobody is forcing you to commit yourself.

oooo poor Cyprus. the country is bankrupt already and a haven for Russian mobsters. they want to be bailed out, but not want to have to pay anything back. not a shred of sympathy for them. its just Greece mark two, though a lot worse. strange how people blame the EU and Germany for their own financial mismanagement.

"The visible will" could be demonstrated by "the presidents or prime ministers committing themselves in written or oral form, in front of the cameras, that both governments want to, during the accession talks, regulate the normalization in a legally binding manner".

Possibly the delegation from Germany has offered to deliver the speeches and costumes for the theatre-performance under title "Faust part III", a representative from the Christian Democrats will perform Mephisto.

Their Parliament at this point seems unwilling to go along with the idea.
(Amer, 19 March 2013 19:17)

Don't you worry,Merkel is going to force them to vote several times until she gets her desired result.Hitler is dead but fascism through the back door is still alive.

What I would tell my compatriots in Cyprus is to stick with their decision and tell the EU fascist bastards to go and f*** themselves.Period.

Wow, Leonidas, you used to write smarter comments. Apparently you get very emotional this time and overlook that your compatriots in Cyprus are down on their knees and can't play the tough guys. It is the EU who could send them somewhere but I guess they will be compassionate again (like with you guys in Greece by writing of part of the huge debts)and help out after all.

Now why would Germany want to do that and make Thaci out to be the liar we already know he is but now have a video to constantly remind him when he reneges on what's he's forced to agree to? He's under enough stress at it is :)

Nikoll, there are 2 Greek states and both of them bankrupt. If there would be 3 of them I am just wondering if all 3 would be bankrupt. Isn't it strange?

" few days ago they propose that Cyprus raid the bank accounts of its depositors. ..."

The Germans certainly have no intention of taxing themselves to protect the off-shore accounts of Russian billionaires. It was the Cyprus government that decided to limit the hit on major (i.e., Russian) depositors by broadening the base to include their own small depositors. Their Parliament at this point seems unwilling to go along with the idea.

Leonidas, it is more than fair that those who gamble with their own money like Cypriot banks and funds hold the bag and lose big time by those haircuts and not the German taxpayer, who generally is very conservative with his money. So Greeks invested by Greeks and lost. It happens. "Don't cry for my Argentina....". As for Cyprus rich in energy deposits maybe the Russians will consider it and give Cyprus few billions. The big hope of Cyprus right now is the saving action of Russia. As I read the Cypriot finance minister doesn't want to leave Moscow until a big help package is agreed. So let see how long he will remain there.

They want it on camera cuz they are probably sick of everyone saying whatever they want one day and something else the next day.

In this photo, Andreas Schockenhoff looks sickly ... like he might need to go back to rehab. Has a history of drunk driving and had to go away to dry out.

Ah, just give him a few drinks and put him on a bus back to Germany.

Hypocrits !.

Se to it that Germany first normalise Her Relations with Historical Serbia if She can !.

Arn.Sweden.

Nikolic in front of the cameras, renouncing Serbian territorial integrity. That will be the day.
Seriously it is a good idea because this will be a record of the promises and commitments they say they have made and puts an end to the flip-flopping statements made by either side so far.

In front of cameras or else it is not real? what should they do, shake hands? Hug? Sing a song? Such as "Alle Menschen werden Brüder"?

The show must go on, but the bottom line is that Kosovo was and always will be Serbia.

Is Serbia even following how Germany/EU is treating Cyprus? They want now to get their hands on depositors bank accounts there to cover the government's and bank financiers' debts?

Look at all the EU countries having problems. Only the core EU countries, such as Germany do the best.

Serbia should at least put their EU quest on hold for a few years.

Also notice these demands and requests SAY NOTHING ABOUT SERBIAN REFUGEES RETURNING AND LIVING SAFELY IN KOSOVO.
It says nothing about Serbia's property usurped and damaged by the Albanians and NATO.

Why is Serbia doing what these bullies want? They forever move the goal posts and can always bring up more or more exacting demands. There's something sadistic in their ways!

What I would tell my compatriots in Cyprus is to stick with their decision and tell the EU fascist bastards to go and f*** themselves.Period.
(Leonidas, 19 March 2013 22:51)

My sentiments exactly. Perfectly said Leonidas. I wish Serbia had some politicians with real cojones to tell the Germans this to their face, and tell them to get out of Serbia, they are not welcome. They have brought nothing but death and destruction with their actions, and they will never change.

Nikoll, there are 2 Greek states and both of them bankrupt.
(Joe, 20 March 2013 12:43)

Instead of following the "one liner venomous Albanian postings" and post ignorant comments you should try to see the Cyprus banking crisis in a historical context and then make judgements.The Greek Cypriot banking system was crippled by contagion from the Greek bondholder haircuts. The articles in the German press with regard to the bailout in Greece are loaded with lies and half truths.It was the Greek and Greek Cypriot banks,pension funds,mutual funds and private bondholders who suffered more than 60% loses on the value of their bond holdings because of the 50% reduction on Greece's debt and not the German taxpayers.In fact the German taxpayers have made profits from the Greek bailout.

http://www.cityam.com/article/ecb-profits-its-greek-bonds

At the moment the score stands People of Cyprus 1- Merkel 0 and Cyprus should re-enforce the decision made by its parliament by leaving the Eurozone,introduce currency controls to prevent the flight of capital and re denominate all the money in its banks into Cypriot pounds (of which it can, of course, print an unlimited supply off its own back) and default on its external debts or agree to pay its creditors sometime in the future.

Cyprus is not a poor country but potentially a very rich one when one takes into consideration its significant energy reserves.

-http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/cyprus-election-gas-idUSL5N0BE78T20130215

(Joe, 20 March 2013 20:02)

Who says that I feel sorry for all those scumbag banksters? Unlike what you say,banks do not gamble with their own money but with their clients ones.The banksters have introduced fractional reserves which turned into leveraging clients deposits many times and turned everyone and every business into a slave to debt repayments for a fiat currency.

Banks around the world are bankrupt and bankrupts always need more capital hence all the printing. They will also need us to keep on buying their worthless 'assets' that no one else would touch with an extra long barge pole, on their off balance sheet books kept in their basement and marked to fantasy - for about the next two hundred years.

Who cares...
100 Years ago Germany was one of the biggest and strongest countries!
But now Germany is dying and surly will become Turkestan 2.0 if this trend goes on for several decades.

I mean countries like Iraq/Kenia/Ugana/Yemen will have more then 100.000 Mil people in 2050 and Germany will decrease to 65/70 Mil people with many foreigners and elderly people = No more influence, perhaps the political elite will have influence but as a country Germany will be nothing anymore, not like 19/20th C and WW2..

When the Cash cow NATO leaves Kosovo will be for the take!
Time will be our greatest friend!

Throw these bums out of the country just like their forefathers before them!

Amer, the peripheral countries of the EU should also be unwilling to keep supporting the German die hard ambition to keep the Euro Zone alive, even though it is on life support. Who has prospered the most from this Union, who has had the most benefit from this EU? The ones that are doing everything they can from it collapsing, even proposing stealing money from bank account holders, in another country, mind you. If the EU was so concerned about Russians placing their money in Cyprus, they could have proposed banking laws, laws that all EU countries would have had to respect. Now, that their butts are against the wall again, with another EU member in dire straits, they want to openly steal money from savers. I just wonder how many rich Germans had accounts in Cyprus, and how many pulled their money out before the account raid was proposed. You defend Germans blindly, I understand, they are a major supporter of Albanians in Kosovo, but in this case with Cyprus banks, they are wrong, and evil, and you are incorrect too.