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Tuesday, 12.03.2013.

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Prime minister: No progress on essential issues

According to Ivica Dačić, Serbian officials said in Brussels last night, "either give us the community of Serb municipalities or let's not waste any more time".

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Zoran

pre 11 godina

So Zoran,
From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission.
Wasn't that the reason that this region is in the mess it is already? So Milosevic lives on!
(a New Day, 13 March 2013 03:48)
--
Note, there is more than one "Zoran" posting below. Two different commentators.

Ann

pre 11 godina

From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission."

Cheap propaganda without reading carefully the comment. Milosevic has ignored completely the organized resistance by the Albanians in Kosovo over years. No other country had accepted this. There can be only one state-power within a country. And all the examples in the comment are showing how it works in leading Western countries. Within minutes the state will act nd bring people to justice. If you are going to the US it is a strong regime for foreigners to enter the country. I am not sure that Serbia is winning confidence allowing to let him without such procedures the wrong persons. If this will not be changed the smuggling etc can not be stopped. And the fight against such cases is a pre-condition from the EU. The Serbs made ever the mistake not to see the Albanian hate against them seriously. We know what is the result. If there is no friendship, its better to live in seperate houses with well-protected doors. There is still room for the history to make it better, but this is the "branch for dreamers". Why not. They should also get their chance.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Hmm. Your PM is saying one thing, on the other hand your President is saying the opposite. I'd say either of them, simply can not figure out how (dont have the heart?) to tell the Serbian people a very simple news:

Game Over.
(croatia-eu, 12 March 2013 21:53)

Comment -

Game has not even Begun,
this is only the Foreplay !.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

If only able to explain in details what full independence means to you for local municipality affairs? Can you shed some light ,so that I can grant your wish.
(Ardi Asllani, 12 March 2013 16:44)

Comment -

What a Hypocritical play of innocense !.

The ALBANIANS DEMAND FULL POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE WHERE THEY ARE IN MAYORITY but,
THEY WILL NOT GRANT THAT TO THE SERBIANS WHERE THE SERBIANS ARE IN MAYORITY.

The Albanians are the Rulers of Kosovo for the Moment,
and can Easily grant Freedoom to the Serbians if they Want,
a Freedoom they Themselves Have and Demanded,
but they wont.

That is Hypocrisy and Doubble standards to me.

However -

The Serbians will surely grant me that Wish but the Albanians wont so,
the issue will only be solved by a new War.

Arn.Sweden.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

So Zoran,
From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission.
Wasn't that the reason that this region is in the mess it is already? So Milosevic lives on!

The Prediction

pre 11 godina

Wake up Albanian my friend can't you read between the lines.Independent KosovA ain't happening bro.KosovO is the only game in town and Serbia's running the show.Just you wait and see.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

I thought Nikolic said Prishtina finally gave in yesterday? What happened? Didn't I tell you Serbs that your current government is worse than your previous one? Well wake up Serbs miserable life awaits you forever those of you who think another RS will be formed in Kosova.

think again

pre 11 godina

Aida, 12 March 2013 16:27)
# Comment
The shame is that I actually think you believe the rubbish you just wrote. YOU know nothing of fact you are rehashing the crimes Albanians are accused of from this forum. You are guilty of the same that you accuse the Albanians. What was false about the information that circulated before the NATO intervention was numbers. What was claimed was happening and the bombing actually saved lives.
Serbia is important for the stabilization of the balkans because it is the #1 postential source for destabilization of the region, it is the ticking time bomb that Europe is trying to defuse. Your leaders want to play that like it is Serbia promoting peace, but in reality without Serbia there is no issue.
The idea of independence for Kosovo comes from actions of Serbia in the past, the support for independence comes from actions of Serbia in the present.

Raus Amerika!

pre 11 godina

It's the American Izetbegovic replay all over again (the US kills the Cutilhero plan). "No Izzy. You don't have to sign anything if you don't want to". The rest, as they say, is history.

croatia-eu

pre 11 godina

Hmm. Your PM is saying one thing, on the other hand your President is saying the opposite. I'd say either of them, simply can not figure out how (dont have the heart?) to tell the Serbian people a very simple news:

Game Over.

T

pre 11 godina

Dacic is willing to do what was unthinkable only last week and that is to negotiate a compromise which will suit both sides.
Thaci thinks he can have it all and feels secure with the EU and the US backing him.
Now that the time is ripe the EU and the US need to make a quick decision to force the will of Thaci and talk him into a deal with Serbia in order to secure what I think is a real opportunity to settle once and for all.

food for thought

pre 11 godina

Amazing they brought the 3 top officials to a meeting and now you have 2 walking out of the same room, the same conversation, and giving 2 totally opposite stories.
Good luck Serbs, you need it.

Aida

pre 11 godina

After all is said and done, the US and Germany are perfectly aware of the subterfuge that was visited upon Serbia. They know, and privately acknowledge, the lies and manipulations. What I hope they are beginning to realize is that the Serbian people do not hold grudges, if they did, they would not be able to look a Croat or Albanian in the eye again. That is a sign of Serbia's maturity and willingness to compromise. And frankly speaking, as the FBI know, it would be much better that the Western countries keep Serbia in Kosovo in a fashion. Those Albanians have proven themselves to be capable of any madness. As I have said and I know as fact, Serbia is a factor of stability in a dangerous part of the world, where drug and human trafficking are rife., and al Qaeda and radical islam are desperately trying to gain a foothold. Noone can deal better with that threat than the Serbs, on their own patch.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

The length of Dacic´s statements cannot hide that there is no content and there are strong differences with the statement of Nikolic in Brussels. Possibly Nikolic is not informed or better, he is not interested in such "details". If you look back to the very long negotiations concerning the German-question both or better all sides made very short and clear statements about their demands. Nobody had ever like Dacic made comments about the red line for compromises or the understanding of the positon of the other side. Where are the serbian demands, where?
-return of the Serbs to Kosovo
-freedom of movement to the churches etc. (also for state officials)
-safety of Serbian property in Kosovo
-invastigation of attacks on Serbs, Serb property, churches and cemetries
-freedom of supplyfor Serb medical/educational
institutions
AND for internal use:
-all Serbs who are illoyal and have taken KS-documents relating citizenship will be accused when entering the "free homeland"
-for illigal actions with drugs, weapons etc the in this region the punishment will be extremely increased like in Singapore)
-Albanians will have no more rights in the "free homeland" as Serbs in Kosovo
-there is really no reason for a visa-free travel-regime with Albania -like the US asking foreigners at the visa-application that they must declare that they are no Nazis, sommunists etc, everybody should declare that he was never a member of a armed unit which was fighting against serbia or Serbs

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

The Albanians are Hypocrits that will cause another War.

The Albanians coukld easily solve the Question of Kosovo by granting the Serbian Muncipalitys full Independence,
but they wount.

Why ?

Their behaviour will cause another War !.

Bad by Albanians !.

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 12 March 2013 15:39)

If only able to explain in details what full independence means to you for local municipality affairs? Can you shed some light ,so that I can grant your wish.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

The Albanians are Hypocrits that will cause another War.

The Albanians coukld easily solve the Question of Kosovo by granting the Serbian Muncipalitys full Independence,
but they wount.

Why ?

Their behaviour will cause another War !.

Bad by Albanians !.

Arn.Sweden.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

I have to say, this government is performing (to the benefit of Serbs) much much much better than the previous sell-outs. Tadic's performance was appalling and he sold Serbia short. He was a poor leader and thank God he is history and his party is in the dumps.

Even those supporting the DS (apart from winston) have crawled under a rock and kept quiet. I'm glad they finally realised how wrong they were.

BTW, this government is also selling out (under pressure), just not in an irreversibly damaging way like Tadic.

food for thought

pre 11 godina

Amazing they brought the 3 top officials to a meeting and now you have 2 walking out of the same room, the same conversation, and giving 2 totally opposite stories.
Good luck Serbs, you need it.

Aida

pre 11 godina

After all is said and done, the US and Germany are perfectly aware of the subterfuge that was visited upon Serbia. They know, and privately acknowledge, the lies and manipulations. What I hope they are beginning to realize is that the Serbian people do not hold grudges, if they did, they would not be able to look a Croat or Albanian in the eye again. That is a sign of Serbia's maturity and willingness to compromise. And frankly speaking, as the FBI know, it would be much better that the Western countries keep Serbia in Kosovo in a fashion. Those Albanians have proven themselves to be capable of any madness. As I have said and I know as fact, Serbia is a factor of stability in a dangerous part of the world, where drug and human trafficking are rife., and al Qaeda and radical islam are desperately trying to gain a foothold. Noone can deal better with that threat than the Serbs, on their own patch.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

The Albanians are Hypocrits that will cause another War.

The Albanians coukld easily solve the Question of Kosovo by granting the Serbian Muncipalitys full Independence,
but they wount.

Why ?

Their behaviour will cause another War !.

Bad by Albanians !.

Arn.Sweden.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

The Albanians are Hypocrits that will cause another War.

The Albanians coukld easily solve the Question of Kosovo by granting the Serbian Muncipalitys full Independence,
but they wount.

Why ?

Their behaviour will cause another War !.

Bad by Albanians !.

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 12 March 2013 15:39)

If only able to explain in details what full independence means to you for local municipality affairs? Can you shed some light ,so that I can grant your wish.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

I have to say, this government is performing (to the benefit of Serbs) much much much better than the previous sell-outs. Tadic's performance was appalling and he sold Serbia short. He was a poor leader and thank God he is history and his party is in the dumps.

Even those supporting the DS (apart from winston) have crawled under a rock and kept quiet. I'm glad they finally realised how wrong they were.

BTW, this government is also selling out (under pressure), just not in an irreversibly damaging way like Tadic.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

The length of Dacic´s statements cannot hide that there is no content and there are strong differences with the statement of Nikolic in Brussels. Possibly Nikolic is not informed or better, he is not interested in such "details". If you look back to the very long negotiations concerning the German-question both or better all sides made very short and clear statements about their demands. Nobody had ever like Dacic made comments about the red line for compromises or the understanding of the positon of the other side. Where are the serbian demands, where?
-return of the Serbs to Kosovo
-freedom of movement to the churches etc. (also for state officials)
-safety of Serbian property in Kosovo
-invastigation of attacks on Serbs, Serb property, churches and cemetries
-freedom of supplyfor Serb medical/educational
institutions
AND for internal use:
-all Serbs who are illoyal and have taken KS-documents relating citizenship will be accused when entering the "free homeland"
-for illigal actions with drugs, weapons etc the in this region the punishment will be extremely increased like in Singapore)
-Albanians will have no more rights in the "free homeland" as Serbs in Kosovo
-there is really no reason for a visa-free travel-regime with Albania -like the US asking foreigners at the visa-application that they must declare that they are no Nazis, sommunists etc, everybody should declare that he was never a member of a armed unit which was fighting against serbia or Serbs

croatia-eu

pre 11 godina

Hmm. Your PM is saying one thing, on the other hand your President is saying the opposite. I'd say either of them, simply can not figure out how (dont have the heart?) to tell the Serbian people a very simple news:

Game Over.

think again

pre 11 godina

Aida, 12 March 2013 16:27)
# Comment
The shame is that I actually think you believe the rubbish you just wrote. YOU know nothing of fact you are rehashing the crimes Albanians are accused of from this forum. You are guilty of the same that you accuse the Albanians. What was false about the information that circulated before the NATO intervention was numbers. What was claimed was happening and the bombing actually saved lives.
Serbia is important for the stabilization of the balkans because it is the #1 postential source for destabilization of the region, it is the ticking time bomb that Europe is trying to defuse. Your leaders want to play that like it is Serbia promoting peace, but in reality without Serbia there is no issue.
The idea of independence for Kosovo comes from actions of Serbia in the past, the support for independence comes from actions of Serbia in the present.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

I thought Nikolic said Prishtina finally gave in yesterday? What happened? Didn't I tell you Serbs that your current government is worse than your previous one? Well wake up Serbs miserable life awaits you forever those of you who think another RS will be formed in Kosova.

T

pre 11 godina

Dacic is willing to do what was unthinkable only last week and that is to negotiate a compromise which will suit both sides.
Thaci thinks he can have it all and feels secure with the EU and the US backing him.
Now that the time is ripe the EU and the US need to make a quick decision to force the will of Thaci and talk him into a deal with Serbia in order to secure what I think is a real opportunity to settle once and for all.

Raus Amerika!

pre 11 godina

It's the American Izetbegovic replay all over again (the US kills the Cutilhero plan). "No Izzy. You don't have to sign anything if you don't want to". The rest, as they say, is history.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Hmm. Your PM is saying one thing, on the other hand your President is saying the opposite. I'd say either of them, simply can not figure out how (dont have the heart?) to tell the Serbian people a very simple news:

Game Over.
(croatia-eu, 12 March 2013 21:53)

Comment -

Game has not even Begun,
this is only the Foreplay !.

Arn.Sweden.

The Prediction

pre 11 godina

Wake up Albanian my friend can't you read between the lines.Independent KosovA ain't happening bro.KosovO is the only game in town and Serbia's running the show.Just you wait and see.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

So Zoran,
From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission.
Wasn't that the reason that this region is in the mess it is already? So Milosevic lives on!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

If only able to explain in details what full independence means to you for local municipality affairs? Can you shed some light ,so that I can grant your wish.
(Ardi Asllani, 12 March 2013 16:44)

Comment -

What a Hypocritical play of innocense !.

The ALBANIANS DEMAND FULL POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE WHERE THEY ARE IN MAYORITY but,
THEY WILL NOT GRANT THAT TO THE SERBIANS WHERE THE SERBIANS ARE IN MAYORITY.

The Albanians are the Rulers of Kosovo for the Moment,
and can Easily grant Freedoom to the Serbians if they Want,
a Freedoom they Themselves Have and Demanded,
but they wont.

That is Hypocrisy and Doubble standards to me.

However -

The Serbians will surely grant me that Wish but the Albanians wont so,
the issue will only be solved by a new War.

Arn.Sweden.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

So Zoran,
From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission.
Wasn't that the reason that this region is in the mess it is already? So Milosevic lives on!
(a New Day, 13 March 2013 03:48)
--
Note, there is more than one "Zoran" posting below. Two different commentators.

Ann

pre 11 godina

From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission."

Cheap propaganda without reading carefully the comment. Milosevic has ignored completely the organized resistance by the Albanians in Kosovo over years. No other country had accepted this. There can be only one state-power within a country. And all the examples in the comment are showing how it works in leading Western countries. Within minutes the state will act nd bring people to justice. If you are going to the US it is a strong regime for foreigners to enter the country. I am not sure that Serbia is winning confidence allowing to let him without such procedures the wrong persons. If this will not be changed the smuggling etc can not be stopped. And the fight against such cases is a pre-condition from the EU. The Serbs made ever the mistake not to see the Albanian hate against them seriously. We know what is the result. If there is no friendship, its better to live in seperate houses with well-protected doors. There is still room for the history to make it better, but this is the "branch for dreamers". Why not. They should also get their chance.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

The Albanians are Hypocrits that will cause another War.

The Albanians coukld easily solve the Question of Kosovo by granting the Serbian Muncipalitys full Independence,
but they wount.

Why ?

Their behaviour will cause another War !.

Bad by Albanians !.

Arn.Sweden.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

The length of Dacic´s statements cannot hide that there is no content and there are strong differences with the statement of Nikolic in Brussels. Possibly Nikolic is not informed or better, he is not interested in such "details". If you look back to the very long negotiations concerning the German-question both or better all sides made very short and clear statements about their demands. Nobody had ever like Dacic made comments about the red line for compromises or the understanding of the positon of the other side. Where are the serbian demands, where?
-return of the Serbs to Kosovo
-freedom of movement to the churches etc. (also for state officials)
-safety of Serbian property in Kosovo
-invastigation of attacks on Serbs, Serb property, churches and cemetries
-freedom of supplyfor Serb medical/educational
institutions
AND for internal use:
-all Serbs who are illoyal and have taken KS-documents relating citizenship will be accused when entering the "free homeland"
-for illigal actions with drugs, weapons etc the in this region the punishment will be extremely increased like in Singapore)
-Albanians will have no more rights in the "free homeland" as Serbs in Kosovo
-there is really no reason for a visa-free travel-regime with Albania -like the US asking foreigners at the visa-application that they must declare that they are no Nazis, sommunists etc, everybody should declare that he was never a member of a armed unit which was fighting against serbia or Serbs

Zoran

pre 11 godina

I have to say, this government is performing (to the benefit of Serbs) much much much better than the previous sell-outs. Tadic's performance was appalling and he sold Serbia short. He was a poor leader and thank God he is history and his party is in the dumps.

Even those supporting the DS (apart from winston) have crawled under a rock and kept quiet. I'm glad they finally realised how wrong they were.

BTW, this government is also selling out (under pressure), just not in an irreversibly damaging way like Tadic.

Aida

pre 11 godina

After all is said and done, the US and Germany are perfectly aware of the subterfuge that was visited upon Serbia. They know, and privately acknowledge, the lies and manipulations. What I hope they are beginning to realize is that the Serbian people do not hold grudges, if they did, they would not be able to look a Croat or Albanian in the eye again. That is a sign of Serbia's maturity and willingness to compromise. And frankly speaking, as the FBI know, it would be much better that the Western countries keep Serbia in Kosovo in a fashion. Those Albanians have proven themselves to be capable of any madness. As I have said and I know as fact, Serbia is a factor of stability in a dangerous part of the world, where drug and human trafficking are rife., and al Qaeda and radical islam are desperately trying to gain a foothold. Noone can deal better with that threat than the Serbs, on their own patch.

food for thought

pre 11 godina

Amazing they brought the 3 top officials to a meeting and now you have 2 walking out of the same room, the same conversation, and giving 2 totally opposite stories.
Good luck Serbs, you need it.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

The Albanians are Hypocrits that will cause another War.

The Albanians coukld easily solve the Question of Kosovo by granting the Serbian Muncipalitys full Independence,
but they wount.

Why ?

Their behaviour will cause another War !.

Bad by Albanians !.

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 12 March 2013 15:39)

If only able to explain in details what full independence means to you for local municipality affairs? Can you shed some light ,so that I can grant your wish.

T

pre 11 godina

Dacic is willing to do what was unthinkable only last week and that is to negotiate a compromise which will suit both sides.
Thaci thinks he can have it all and feels secure with the EU and the US backing him.
Now that the time is ripe the EU and the US need to make a quick decision to force the will of Thaci and talk him into a deal with Serbia in order to secure what I think is a real opportunity to settle once and for all.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

I thought Nikolic said Prishtina finally gave in yesterday? What happened? Didn't I tell you Serbs that your current government is worse than your previous one? Well wake up Serbs miserable life awaits you forever those of you who think another RS will be formed in Kosova.

croatia-eu

pre 11 godina

Hmm. Your PM is saying one thing, on the other hand your President is saying the opposite. I'd say either of them, simply can not figure out how (dont have the heart?) to tell the Serbian people a very simple news:

Game Over.

think again

pre 11 godina

Aida, 12 March 2013 16:27)
# Comment
The shame is that I actually think you believe the rubbish you just wrote. YOU know nothing of fact you are rehashing the crimes Albanians are accused of from this forum. You are guilty of the same that you accuse the Albanians. What was false about the information that circulated before the NATO intervention was numbers. What was claimed was happening and the bombing actually saved lives.
Serbia is important for the stabilization of the balkans because it is the #1 postential source for destabilization of the region, it is the ticking time bomb that Europe is trying to defuse. Your leaders want to play that like it is Serbia promoting peace, but in reality without Serbia there is no issue.
The idea of independence for Kosovo comes from actions of Serbia in the past, the support for independence comes from actions of Serbia in the present.

Ann

pre 11 godina

From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission."

Cheap propaganda without reading carefully the comment. Milosevic has ignored completely the organized resistance by the Albanians in Kosovo over years. No other country had accepted this. There can be only one state-power within a country. And all the examples in the comment are showing how it works in leading Western countries. Within minutes the state will act nd bring people to justice. If you are going to the US it is a strong regime for foreigners to enter the country. I am not sure that Serbia is winning confidence allowing to let him without such procedures the wrong persons. If this will not be changed the smuggling etc can not be stopped. And the fight against such cases is a pre-condition from the EU. The Serbs made ever the mistake not to see the Albanian hate against them seriously. We know what is the result. If there is no friendship, its better to live in seperate houses with well-protected doors. There is still room for the history to make it better, but this is the "branch for dreamers". Why not. They should also get their chance.

Raus Amerika!

pre 11 godina

It's the American Izetbegovic replay all over again (the US kills the Cutilhero plan). "No Izzy. You don't have to sign anything if you don't want to". The rest, as they say, is history.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

So Zoran,
From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission.
Wasn't that the reason that this region is in the mess it is already? So Milosevic lives on!

The Prediction

pre 11 godina

Wake up Albanian my friend can't you read between the lines.Independent KosovA ain't happening bro.KosovO is the only game in town and Serbia's running the show.Just you wait and see.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

If only able to explain in details what full independence means to you for local municipality affairs? Can you shed some light ,so that I can grant your wish.
(Ardi Asllani, 12 March 2013 16:44)

Comment -

What a Hypocritical play of innocense !.

The ALBANIANS DEMAND FULL POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE WHERE THEY ARE IN MAYORITY but,
THEY WILL NOT GRANT THAT TO THE SERBIANS WHERE THE SERBIANS ARE IN MAYORITY.

The Albanians are the Rulers of Kosovo for the Moment,
and can Easily grant Freedoom to the Serbians if they Want,
a Freedoom they Themselves Have and Demanded,
but they wont.

That is Hypocrisy and Doubble standards to me.

However -

The Serbians will surely grant me that Wish but the Albanians wont so,
the issue will only be solved by a new War.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

Hmm. Your PM is saying one thing, on the other hand your President is saying the opposite. I'd say either of them, simply can not figure out how (dont have the heart?) to tell the Serbian people a very simple news:

Game Over.
(croatia-eu, 12 March 2013 21:53)

Comment -

Game has not even Begun,
this is only the Foreplay !.

Arn.Sweden.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

So Zoran,
From your post I gather your ideology is that Serbs should be free to do whatever they want without any legal boundaries and Albanians not allowed to do more than breathe and that will be only with permission.
Wasn't that the reason that this region is in the mess it is already? So Milosevic lives on!
(a New Day, 13 March 2013 03:48)
--
Note, there is more than one "Zoran" posting below. Two different commentators.