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Nikolić: Unacceptable paper prepared for Serbia

Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić said on Monday in Belgrade that "some paper" would be offered to Serbia's top officials in Brussels.

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ned taylor

pre 11 godina

KOSO: Much as I am pleased to see a positive reaction to my comments I should point out for future reference that I am English, although I have lived in the Balkans since 2002.

Ataman

pre 11 godina

Trollin' Trollin' trollin', Rawhide.
(Bekim_Novi Sad, 11 March 2013 22:18)

Hehe, don't think this "Joe" can pass any Hungarian language test, he is a fake. The "old" Joe is now a nobleman in Scotland and his family name is McDöglött since quite a few years.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Daniel, sure you don't see any of that EU pre-assistance money in Serbia because your government (just like the previous one) spends all of it N-Kosovo on parallel institutions and on those thugs called "businessmen". Some of them are getting double and triple salaries. They must love the current situation with such income.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

Blerim, I remember that sweet Croatian victory. That was good for both Croatia and Europe.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 16:39)

Trollin' Trollin' trollin', Rawhide.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

this is the best thing that could have happend to them. No humiliating agreement on Kosovo and no membership in a union that is doomed.
(Eurosceptic, 11 March 2013 16:18)
====================

Best thing for Serbs in Belgrade but what about Serbs in Kosovo?
What do they get out of it? More abuse and terror from Albanians without anyone helping them?
Don't forget, it's not Serbs in Serbia who are suffering because of Kosovo but Kosovo Serbs. Let's listen to what they want.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Greg, if you guys want to ensure that money continues to flow from Brussels you don't have any choice but sign that paper at the dotted line.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 18:28)

What money?I live in Serbia and dont see any eu money coming in but maybe you know better than someone that lives in Serbia?

KOSO

pre 11 godina

Here's some simple advice for Nikolic; if the paper is unacceptable, don't accept it. It's not compulsory to join the EU.
(ned taylor, 11 March 2013 17:52)

Finally a serb commentator that makes sense...I fully agree with the sentence above.


Tung,

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...when Serbs were driven out."

perhaps if Serbs hadn't started killing Croats, Bosnians and Albanians, there'd have been no need either for Krajina or Kosova's independnece. it can't always be others to blame. the heavnely people must look at themselves first

"... people who live there and have their rights,..."

I too am for equal rights, however, serbs want sepcial rrights or rather more rights than others. why should serbs have a veto power in Kosova when they don't even make up 10% of the whole population? why not give veto powers to Turkk too then? equal rights? for sure. special rights? whatever

Joe

pre 11 godina

Greg, if you guys want to ensure that money continues to flow from Brussels you don't have any choice but sign that paper at the dotted line.

Brian

pre 11 godina

He is so wrong to be describing Kosovo as a colony of Serbia. That is what Serbia wants? For Kosovo to be a colony? There are no more colonies.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Blerim what are you talking about?Banija, Kordun and Lika the area that is called Krajina has had an overwhelming serbian majority for 300 years before the croats ethnically cleansed more than 250 000 serbs. The area has been populated by over 80%serbs and never ever did JNA nor TO committ any ethnic cleansing for one simple reason, there were no croats to cleanse, get it?You can tell these stories to americans, brits or germans but not to me who was born and raised in the area.

pss

pre 11 godina

Solic, 11 March 2013 16:36)
One has to wonder if this is your first day reading the posts at B92 english version!
Even though to date no one has found any credible evidence of the organ harvesting you write it as fact and then say Serbs do not write about it on the forum. The challenge is to find a day that someone does NOT write some slur towards Albanians and organ harvesting.
You then criticize because others do not recognize that Serbs were victims in Croatia and Kosovo, but no mention of the overwhelming victims in Kosovo were Albanian. And then you say you want intelligent comments if possible, what do you call your comment??
Last you claim to have Albanians as friends, let them read your post and I think they can clear up the last question of "why the hate?"

Krasniq't

pre 11 godina

I can read his words but I don't understand his view point. He doesn't recognise Kosovo but at the same time he accepts Prishtina to manage its people, say Prishtina recognises and accepts the predominant Serb councils to have executive powers, they will still be under the boarders of Kosovo which is recognised by most if not all democratic countries.

If any plan with executive powers or not in default recognises Kosovo's Independence.

So the question is why are they putting a spin on this? is 1. to save face 2. for their own political gains or 3. the fact that they have already accepted Kosovo's Independance and this is their way of telling the Serb people.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

"If they offer us a paper that contains transcribed laws that have been made in Priština in the meantime, without any consideration of Serbia's rights, if it becomes clear from that paper that they almost recognize Kosovo as a state, while not taking Serbian into account, then that will mean that the EU does not want us as its member, after all," he stated.


almost???
For your info Mr. Nikolic, the 22 soon 23 EU states have recognized Kosova as a state and have exchanged ambassadors.

Ratko

pre 11 godina

"Blerim, I remember that sweet Croatian victory. That was good for both Croatia and Europe.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 16:39) "

Wow you're so tough with your daily provocative comments.

Greg

pre 11 godina

Nikolic & Co. are the Serbian people not the truth about the "paper". How long they have this paper in their hands? Was ist in general accepted by Dacic and Vucic? Why the Serbs are only telling their only people something after Prishtina had publishes it and it can not more hidden? It was the prolem by Nikolic to offer too much for Prishtina without having any real demand. The Albaninas are not to sensitive: if you are meeting with their president after it was forbidden for Nikolic to travel their, it looks so/or it is so as you are willing to accept everything what the Albanians are doing and demanding. Serbias seesaw policy without any content has failed. Kosovo and EU are two complete seperate points. EU is more or less only related with the questions about the real position of Serbians economy and value-system. Vucic has declared that Serbians must change their thinking, lets say mentality. How is this possible at all? Vucic promised promised to be a reliable partner which was not seen so now by the Britsh side. This cann only understood as expectation by London that Belgrade is following completely the demands by the important Western countries.. No country ever was admitted to the EU with such a complexity of problems. Berlin is not ready to give Belgrade a date, only third-class "pre-negotiation" which is like all Western steps is highlighted by Belgrade as great move.

Eurosceptic

pre 11 godina

If there is no agreement on Kosovo then tve current situation will remain. A territory split in half. Serbia won't join the EU - not that it would anyway - and Kosovo still in limbo. I don't know if there is a reason for serbs to be upset because this is the best thing that could have happend to them. No humiliating agreement on Kosovo and no membership in a union that is doomed.

Solic

pre 11 godina

@ albani and eu its clear to everyone on this site that you guys are anti serb.. You two are like a broken record.. you guy froget that serbs were victims in croatia and kosovo.. Keep in mind everybody is a victim when there is a war. Albanians kidnapped people for organs and sold women to 3rd world countries and you dont see serbs writing that on here and talking s#$!.. I wana see good intelligent comments if possible.. I am a serb and have Albanians as friends. why so much hatred? ?

Albani

pre 11 godina

You must throw out all the serbs that moved to Vojvodina first.Take them to Serbia proper.Let Vojvodina be free occupation of serbia and than we will talk about 2% serbian population of Kosova.

Jovan

pre 11 godina

it seems like commenters like Albani only understand the use of force. and they shall get what they are yearning for.

given that most of KiM´s Albanians are concentrated in and around Pristina, they still do not realize how easy it would be to bring them to their knees...

kids, you should wake up, the Americans will let you down, sooner or later.

and then there will be nobody to take care of you - except the Serbs.

Blerim

pre 11 godina

Here we go again with Nikolic and his ridiculous lies: the Serbs/JNA violently expelled the Croats from one-third of Croat territory FIRST in order to create their "Republika Srpska" in Croatia...only for that effort to end in failure via a combined Croat military victory and of course expedited by the tacit capitulation by Milosevic and his crack management team!

Eurosceptic

pre 11 godina

If there is no agreement on Kosovo then tve current situation will remain. A territory split in half. Serbia won't join the EU - not that it would anyway - and Kosovo still in limbo. I don't know if there is a reason for serbs to be upset because this is the best thing that could have happend to them. No humiliating agreement on Kosovo and no membership in a union that is doomed.

Jovan

pre 11 godina

it seems like commenters like Albani only understand the use of force. and they shall get what they are yearning for.

given that most of KiM´s Albanians are concentrated in and around Pristina, they still do not realize how easy it would be to bring them to their knees...

kids, you should wake up, the Americans will let you down, sooner or later.

and then there will be nobody to take care of you - except the Serbs.

Albani

pre 11 godina

You must throw out all the serbs that moved to Vojvodina first.Take them to Serbia proper.Let Vojvodina be free occupation of serbia and than we will talk about 2% serbian population of Kosova.

Blerim

pre 11 godina

Here we go again with Nikolic and his ridiculous lies: the Serbs/JNA violently expelled the Croats from one-third of Croat territory FIRST in order to create their "Republika Srpska" in Croatia...only for that effort to end in failure via a combined Croat military victory and of course expedited by the tacit capitulation by Milosevic and his crack management team!

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Blerim what are you talking about?Banija, Kordun and Lika the area that is called Krajina has had an overwhelming serbian majority for 300 years before the croats ethnically cleansed more than 250 000 serbs. The area has been populated by over 80%serbs and never ever did JNA nor TO committ any ethnic cleansing for one simple reason, there were no croats to cleanse, get it?You can tell these stories to americans, brits or germans but not to me who was born and raised in the area.

Solic

pre 11 godina

@ albani and eu its clear to everyone on this site that you guys are anti serb.. You two are like a broken record.. you guy froget that serbs were victims in croatia and kosovo.. Keep in mind everybody is a victim when there is a war. Albanians kidnapped people for organs and sold women to 3rd world countries and you dont see serbs writing that on here and talking s#$!.. I wana see good intelligent comments if possible.. I am a serb and have Albanians as friends. why so much hatred? ?

Ratko

pre 11 godina

"Blerim, I remember that sweet Croatian victory. That was good for both Croatia and Europe.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 16:39) "

Wow you're so tough with your daily provocative comments.

Brian

pre 11 godina

He is so wrong to be describing Kosovo as a colony of Serbia. That is what Serbia wants? For Kosovo to be a colony? There are no more colonies.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

"If they offer us a paper that contains transcribed laws that have been made in Priština in the meantime, without any consideration of Serbia's rights, if it becomes clear from that paper that they almost recognize Kosovo as a state, while not taking Serbian into account, then that will mean that the EU does not want us as its member, after all," he stated.


almost???
For your info Mr. Nikolic, the 22 soon 23 EU states have recognized Kosova as a state and have exchanged ambassadors.

pss

pre 11 godina

Solic, 11 March 2013 16:36)
One has to wonder if this is your first day reading the posts at B92 english version!
Even though to date no one has found any credible evidence of the organ harvesting you write it as fact and then say Serbs do not write about it on the forum. The challenge is to find a day that someone does NOT write some slur towards Albanians and organ harvesting.
You then criticize because others do not recognize that Serbs were victims in Croatia and Kosovo, but no mention of the overwhelming victims in Kosovo were Albanian. And then you say you want intelligent comments if possible, what do you call your comment??
Last you claim to have Albanians as friends, let them read your post and I think they can clear up the last question of "why the hate?"

Joe

pre 11 godina

Greg, if you guys want to ensure that money continues to flow from Brussels you don't have any choice but sign that paper at the dotted line.

Greg

pre 11 godina

Nikolic & Co. are the Serbian people not the truth about the "paper". How long they have this paper in their hands? Was ist in general accepted by Dacic and Vucic? Why the Serbs are only telling their only people something after Prishtina had publishes it and it can not more hidden? It was the prolem by Nikolic to offer too much for Prishtina without having any real demand. The Albaninas are not to sensitive: if you are meeting with their president after it was forbidden for Nikolic to travel their, it looks so/or it is so as you are willing to accept everything what the Albanians are doing and demanding. Serbias seesaw policy without any content has failed. Kosovo and EU are two complete seperate points. EU is more or less only related with the questions about the real position of Serbians economy and value-system. Vucic has declared that Serbians must change their thinking, lets say mentality. How is this possible at all? Vucic promised promised to be a reliable partner which was not seen so now by the Britsh side. This cann only understood as expectation by London that Belgrade is following completely the demands by the important Western countries.. No country ever was admitted to the EU with such a complexity of problems. Berlin is not ready to give Belgrade a date, only third-class "pre-negotiation" which is like all Western steps is highlighted by Belgrade as great move.

Krasniq't

pre 11 godina

I can read his words but I don't understand his view point. He doesn't recognise Kosovo but at the same time he accepts Prishtina to manage its people, say Prishtina recognises and accepts the predominant Serb councils to have executive powers, they will still be under the boarders of Kosovo which is recognised by most if not all democratic countries.

If any plan with executive powers or not in default recognises Kosovo's Independence.

So the question is why are they putting a spin on this? is 1. to save face 2. for their own political gains or 3. the fact that they have already accepted Kosovo's Independance and this is their way of telling the Serb people.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

Blerim, I remember that sweet Croatian victory. That was good for both Croatia and Europe.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 16:39)

Trollin' Trollin' trollin', Rawhide.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

this is the best thing that could have happend to them. No humiliating agreement on Kosovo and no membership in a union that is doomed.
(Eurosceptic, 11 March 2013 16:18)
====================

Best thing for Serbs in Belgrade but what about Serbs in Kosovo?
What do they get out of it? More abuse and terror from Albanians without anyone helping them?
Don't forget, it's not Serbs in Serbia who are suffering because of Kosovo but Kosovo Serbs. Let's listen to what they want.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Greg, if you guys want to ensure that money continues to flow from Brussels you don't have any choice but sign that paper at the dotted line.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 18:28)

What money?I live in Serbia and dont see any eu money coming in but maybe you know better than someone that lives in Serbia?

Joe

pre 11 godina

Daniel, sure you don't see any of that EU pre-assistance money in Serbia because your government (just like the previous one) spends all of it N-Kosovo on parallel institutions and on those thugs called "businessmen". Some of them are getting double and triple salaries. They must love the current situation with such income.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...when Serbs were driven out."

perhaps if Serbs hadn't started killing Croats, Bosnians and Albanians, there'd have been no need either for Krajina or Kosova's independnece. it can't always be others to blame. the heavnely people must look at themselves first

"... people who live there and have their rights,..."

I too am for equal rights, however, serbs want sepcial rrights or rather more rights than others. why should serbs have a veto power in Kosova when they don't even make up 10% of the whole population? why not give veto powers to Turkk too then? equal rights? for sure. special rights? whatever

KOSO

pre 11 godina

Here's some simple advice for Nikolic; if the paper is unacceptable, don't accept it. It's not compulsory to join the EU.
(ned taylor, 11 March 2013 17:52)

Finally a serb commentator that makes sense...I fully agree with the sentence above.


Tung,

Ataman

pre 11 godina

Trollin' Trollin' trollin', Rawhide.
(Bekim_Novi Sad, 11 March 2013 22:18)

Hehe, don't think this "Joe" can pass any Hungarian language test, he is a fake. The "old" Joe is now a nobleman in Scotland and his family name is McDöglött since quite a few years.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

KOSO: Much as I am pleased to see a positive reaction to my comments I should point out for future reference that I am English, although I have lived in the Balkans since 2002.

Albani

pre 11 godina

You must throw out all the serbs that moved to Vojvodina first.Take them to Serbia proper.Let Vojvodina be free occupation of serbia and than we will talk about 2% serbian population of Kosova.

Blerim

pre 11 godina

Here we go again with Nikolic and his ridiculous lies: the Serbs/JNA violently expelled the Croats from one-third of Croat territory FIRST in order to create their "Republika Srpska" in Croatia...only for that effort to end in failure via a combined Croat military victory and of course expedited by the tacit capitulation by Milosevic and his crack management team!

Jovan

pre 11 godina

it seems like commenters like Albani only understand the use of force. and they shall get what they are yearning for.

given that most of KiM´s Albanians are concentrated in and around Pristina, they still do not realize how easy it would be to bring them to their knees...

kids, you should wake up, the Americans will let you down, sooner or later.

and then there will be nobody to take care of you - except the Serbs.

Solic

pre 11 godina

@ albani and eu its clear to everyone on this site that you guys are anti serb.. You two are like a broken record.. you guy froget that serbs were victims in croatia and kosovo.. Keep in mind everybody is a victim when there is a war. Albanians kidnapped people for organs and sold women to 3rd world countries and you dont see serbs writing that on here and talking s#$!.. I wana see good intelligent comments if possible.. I am a serb and have Albanians as friends. why so much hatred? ?

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

"If they offer us a paper that contains transcribed laws that have been made in Priština in the meantime, without any consideration of Serbia's rights, if it becomes clear from that paper that they almost recognize Kosovo as a state, while not taking Serbian into account, then that will mean that the EU does not want us as its member, after all," he stated.


almost???
For your info Mr. Nikolic, the 22 soon 23 EU states have recognized Kosova as a state and have exchanged ambassadors.

pss

pre 11 godina

Solic, 11 March 2013 16:36)
One has to wonder if this is your first day reading the posts at B92 english version!
Even though to date no one has found any credible evidence of the organ harvesting you write it as fact and then say Serbs do not write about it on the forum. The challenge is to find a day that someone does NOT write some slur towards Albanians and organ harvesting.
You then criticize because others do not recognize that Serbs were victims in Croatia and Kosovo, but no mention of the overwhelming victims in Kosovo were Albanian. And then you say you want intelligent comments if possible, what do you call your comment??
Last you claim to have Albanians as friends, let them read your post and I think they can clear up the last question of "why the hate?"

Joe

pre 11 godina

Greg, if you guys want to ensure that money continues to flow from Brussels you don't have any choice but sign that paper at the dotted line.

Krasniq't

pre 11 godina

I can read his words but I don't understand his view point. He doesn't recognise Kosovo but at the same time he accepts Prishtina to manage its people, say Prishtina recognises and accepts the predominant Serb councils to have executive powers, they will still be under the boarders of Kosovo which is recognised by most if not all democratic countries.

If any plan with executive powers or not in default recognises Kosovo's Independence.

So the question is why are they putting a spin on this? is 1. to save face 2. for their own political gains or 3. the fact that they have already accepted Kosovo's Independance and this is their way of telling the Serb people.

Brian

pre 11 godina

He is so wrong to be describing Kosovo as a colony of Serbia. That is what Serbia wants? For Kosovo to be a colony? There are no more colonies.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Blerim what are you talking about?Banija, Kordun and Lika the area that is called Krajina has had an overwhelming serbian majority for 300 years before the croats ethnically cleansed more than 250 000 serbs. The area has been populated by over 80%serbs and never ever did JNA nor TO committ any ethnic cleansing for one simple reason, there were no croats to cleanse, get it?You can tell these stories to americans, brits or germans but not to me who was born and raised in the area.

Eurosceptic

pre 11 godina

If there is no agreement on Kosovo then tve current situation will remain. A territory split in half. Serbia won't join the EU - not that it would anyway - and Kosovo still in limbo. I don't know if there is a reason for serbs to be upset because this is the best thing that could have happend to them. No humiliating agreement on Kosovo and no membership in a union that is doomed.

Ratko

pre 11 godina

"Blerim, I remember that sweet Croatian victory. That was good for both Croatia and Europe.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 16:39) "

Wow you're so tough with your daily provocative comments.

Greg

pre 11 godina

Nikolic & Co. are the Serbian people not the truth about the "paper". How long they have this paper in their hands? Was ist in general accepted by Dacic and Vucic? Why the Serbs are only telling their only people something after Prishtina had publishes it and it can not more hidden? It was the prolem by Nikolic to offer too much for Prishtina without having any real demand. The Albaninas are not to sensitive: if you are meeting with their president after it was forbidden for Nikolic to travel their, it looks so/or it is so as you are willing to accept everything what the Albanians are doing and demanding. Serbias seesaw policy without any content has failed. Kosovo and EU are two complete seperate points. EU is more or less only related with the questions about the real position of Serbians economy and value-system. Vucic has declared that Serbians must change their thinking, lets say mentality. How is this possible at all? Vucic promised promised to be a reliable partner which was not seen so now by the Britsh side. This cann only understood as expectation by London that Belgrade is following completely the demands by the important Western countries.. No country ever was admitted to the EU with such a complexity of problems. Berlin is not ready to give Belgrade a date, only third-class "pre-negotiation" which is like all Western steps is highlighted by Belgrade as great move.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...when Serbs were driven out."

perhaps if Serbs hadn't started killing Croats, Bosnians and Albanians, there'd have been no need either for Krajina or Kosova's independnece. it can't always be others to blame. the heavnely people must look at themselves first

"... people who live there and have their rights,..."

I too am for equal rights, however, serbs want sepcial rrights or rather more rights than others. why should serbs have a veto power in Kosova when they don't even make up 10% of the whole population? why not give veto powers to Turkk too then? equal rights? for sure. special rights? whatever

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Greg, if you guys want to ensure that money continues to flow from Brussels you don't have any choice but sign that paper at the dotted line.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 18:28)

What money?I live in Serbia and dont see any eu money coming in but maybe you know better than someone that lives in Serbia?

Peggy

pre 11 godina

this is the best thing that could have happend to them. No humiliating agreement on Kosovo and no membership in a union that is doomed.
(Eurosceptic, 11 March 2013 16:18)
====================

Best thing for Serbs in Belgrade but what about Serbs in Kosovo?
What do they get out of it? More abuse and terror from Albanians without anyone helping them?
Don't forget, it's not Serbs in Serbia who are suffering because of Kosovo but Kosovo Serbs. Let's listen to what they want.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

Blerim, I remember that sweet Croatian victory. That was good for both Croatia and Europe.
(Joe, 11 March 2013 16:39)

Trollin' Trollin' trollin', Rawhide.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Daniel, sure you don't see any of that EU pre-assistance money in Serbia because your government (just like the previous one) spends all of it N-Kosovo on parallel institutions and on those thugs called "businessmen". Some of them are getting double and triple salaries. They must love the current situation with such income.

KOSO

pre 11 godina

Here's some simple advice for Nikolic; if the paper is unacceptable, don't accept it. It's not compulsory to join the EU.
(ned taylor, 11 March 2013 17:52)

Finally a serb commentator that makes sense...I fully agree with the sentence above.


Tung,

Ataman

pre 11 godina

Trollin' Trollin' trollin', Rawhide.
(Bekim_Novi Sad, 11 March 2013 22:18)

Hehe, don't think this "Joe" can pass any Hungarian language test, he is a fake. The "old" Joe is now a nobleman in Scotland and his family name is McDöglött since quite a few years.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

KOSO: Much as I am pleased to see a positive reaction to my comments I should point out for future reference that I am English, although I have lived in the Balkans since 2002.