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Saturday, 09.03.2013.

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Albanians in south to request community of municipalities

Ethnic Albanians in southern Serbia will request from the Serbian government to form a community of Albanian municipalities.

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Peggy

pre 11 godina

Ok, so you agree than that if some Serb municipalities in Serbia get the right to form an association of municipalities, the same goes for the Albanian municipalities in Serbia.
(icj1, 10 March 2013 17:36)
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If you don't understand what I wrote why do you reply?

icj1

pre 11 godina

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.
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They have the same rights as the Serbs in Serbia so what else do they want?
Serbs in north Kosovo have the rights as Serbs in Serbia because Kosovo IS Serbia. They should get that by now.
(Peggy, 10 March 2013 09:38)

Ok, so you agree than that if some Serb municipalities in Serbia get the right to form an association of municipalities, the same goes for the Albanian municipalities in Serbia.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Ps: Presevo is Serbian, Medvedja is Serbian and Bujanovac is Serbian, Kosovo is Serbian.
(trizo, 10 March 2013 08:05)

Not just those... also the Balkans are Serbian, Europe is Serbian, the Earth is Serbian, the Moon is Serbian, the Solar System is Serbian, the Milky Way Galaxy is Serbian, the Universe is Serbian and even what existed before the Universe was Serbian.

You see, it was easy - at the stroke of a pen (or keyboard in this case) we made everything Serbian. You might even want to write that in the Serbian Constitution, built some monasteries in the places above and also lose some battle with aliens in the inter-galactic space, so that future Serbian generations can claim that all of the above is the craddle of the Serbian civilization...

BOPA

pre 11 godina

It takes two to dance tango, if Belgrade expects Pristina to accept their proposal then why cant Belgrade accept the same inside their borders, and even without executive powers on which Belgrade insist for their own ppl in Kosovo. Truth be told you Serbs act as if someone owe you anything even though you lost all rights what has Kosovo on it in '99. This might sound controversal but I keep hearing your villages are dying out, most young ppl moving out to Belgrade and Nis, why not repopulate with K-Serbs? Taking advantage of Kosovo not having an army and being a weak state this will sooner then later take and end I can only guess the new generation wont be as generous.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.
====================================

They have the same rights as the Serbs in Serbia so what else do they want?
Serbs in north Kosovo have the rights as Serbs in Serbia because Kosovo IS Serbia. They should get that by now.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Ask Ari and he knows what it means. "

EA

Ask Ari? Why don't you tell me? Besides I have no clue to what it is you want to say with your comment. I'm stuck in the past? Yet you are the one bringing up Milosevic and the wars. Are you aware of what it is you are writing?

trizo

pre 11 godina

I agree with the albanians. The rights serbs have in Kosovo albanians should have in Serbia proper. So, come on Serbs. Let's attack albanian mosques and albanian graveyards. Let's prevent medicine from reaching hospitals in Presevo. Let's prevent albanians from displaying national symbols. Let's force albanians to ask for Kfor protection when they go to the market. Albanians in Serbia don't know how well off they are.
(MikeC, 9 March 2013 17:14)

When you Albanians can READ this comment from MikeC then you would realise the truth.

The only thing MikeC didn't mention was how the Serbs in Albania are treated?

Do the Serbs in Albania also deserve this what you're asking for????

Can any Albanian come back with a civilised response?

We can't practice our religion or even have our orthodox names in Albania, so why should we give you any rights at all? you already have far more rights than you give anyone else.

Ps: Presevo is Serbian, Medvedja is Serbian and Bujanovac is Serbian, Kosovo is Serbian.

The only rights you should have is to stfu and realise your own behaviour in your own country (Albania) - you are 100% biased in your opinions. You take everything and give nothing.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

They have far better rights than Serbs could ever hope to have in Kosovo :)
(Balkan Anthropologist,
Milan

So, they want less rights, right?
What an idiotic comment!

Serbia, being a great and progressive country that it is, one that respects and values its minorities should accept their request immediately as a sign of good will amid the negotiations that are taking place in Brussels.

I guess the Serb political brain cells didn't predict this one.
Or did they? And, is this another way out for them?!

adrian, timisoara,romania

pre 11 godina

Pandora`s Box is open. Hungarians, bosnians, vlachs, bulgarians etc. - they all can ask for the same rights.

rocky

pre 11 godina

love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!
(Rocky, 9 March 2013 15:35)

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:57) At least you have "Willi Pfaff" to be your German spokesman to hopefully humanize you to the outside world......oh wait he's just another long list of Albanians who come on here pretending to be Westerners to somehow hurt our feelings maybe? Hilarious, you would think they just learned how to use the computer last week the way they behave!


Ari, you Serbs radicals have also helped the Albanian cause, by bringing us Albanians together, an more ways then you would suspect, so thank you, thank you very much!!!

Get a grip

pre 11 godina

Robert1899 the reason Serbia fails to get any international support or sympathy is the constant melodrama and extreme exaggeration.
Serbs in Kosovo live in typical Kosovo villages just as (if not better than) their Albanian neighbors. They do not live behind barb wire. You try the symapathy card because electricity is cut for non payment but so it is with the Albanians and the French in France, and the Americans in the US. You cry foul because illegal phone towers are tumbled just like in Canada or Russia or Greece. You want sympathy for vandalixm to deserted graveyards when you yourself are responsible for multiple mass graves. A woman widowed by Serb forces throws a rock at a bus of Serbs and it is called ethnic cleansing.

Demi

pre 11 godina

The serb comments here are not very serious. Maybee that is why their politicans and state are not serious too. Kosova is independent from Serbia (fact). It is dependent on various worldpowers as so is every country (fact). Just to be clear before serbs jump and say that US backs Albanians. Where is mother Russia for you serbs ?

If you want special rights for serbs in Kosova then you must be ready to offer the Albanians in Serbia the same rights. It's not more than fair by my logic. This would have been logical even if Kosova was an part of Serbia. Right ?

As for Ari Gold wich states that Kosova and Serbia are not equal then you can ask Dacic if that is true. I think that he and Hashim Thaqi negotiate on equal terms. But as long as you serbs have that kind of thinking that serbs and Albanians are not equals then there will not be any reconiciliation beetwen our people.

Serbia can twist things how much they want but Kosova will in the end be victorious. The right both legaly and moraly is on The side of Kosova.

Sofronije

pre 11 godina

@ gjon fusha, 9 March 2013 22:29)
I did not see any Serbs in your Albanian population list.
Did albos count all serbs in Albania to bo Albos near 2 milion?
Becouse 10 century ago all people in Today Albania is only Serb and Greeaks.

gajo

pre 11 godina

Mother tongue Population %
Albanian 2,765,610 98.8
Greek … 15,196 0.5
Macedonian 4,443 0.16
Romani … 4,025 0.14
Aromanian 3,848 0.13
Turkish … 714 0.03
Italian … 523 0.02
Other … 1,936 0.07
Not relevant 3,843 0,13

Albanians in Albania as for census 2011 is 98.8%. And even in Kosovo is like 94% Albanian.
I also read here about North Epirus. Not only North Epirus is Albanian but also South Epirus too. Greek people that wright here forget that if was not for Albanians there will not be Greece today.
(gjon fusha, 9 March 2013 22:29) really well heres reality lol

Population of Albania according to ethnic group 2011

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDemographics_of_Albania&ei=m9w7Ub2bNKW02wXq6ICQCg&usg=AFQjCNFUOshnE0F3uswCiVnjpB7Pem6J2w&bvm=bv.43287494,d.b2I

and not mother toungue lol

albanians are 2,312,356 82%

At the 2011 census a total of 390,938 (14% of the total population) did not declare their nationality, while another 44,144 (1.6%) considered the nationality as 'not relevant' ...

Albania recognizes three national minorities, Greeks, Macedonians and Montenegrins, and two cultural minorities, Aromanians and Romani people.[5] As conducting a satisfactory census of ethnic minorities is one of the country's commitments to the European Union,

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

albania is a small nation of 2.8 million and 35% are none albanian so lets all get this started
(gajo, 9 March 2013 17:04)

Gajo, are you OK? Because this my be your book that is saying 35% nonalbanian. Last census made in Albania is:


Mother tongue Population %
Albanian 2,765,610 98.8
Greek 15,196 0.5
Macedonian 4,443 0.16
Romani 4,025 0.14
Aromanian 3,848 0.13
Turkish 714 0.03
Italian 523 0.02
Other 1,936 0.07
Not relevant 3,843 0,13

Albanians in Albania as for census 2011 is 98.8%. And even in Kosovo is like 94% Albanian.
I also read here about North Epirus. Not only North Epirus is Albanian but also South Epirus too. Greek people that wright here forget that if was not for Albanians there will not be Greece today.

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:57)

Fake Ari Gold, we do have our problems which we are not proud of!
But we did not kill our prime minister yet. We have nobody residing at Hague jails also. And we did not do and lost4 wars

EA

pre 11 godina

MikeC,

You started wars and am not sure whether you regret or still praying for Milloshevic....That is your problem and there is a solution go it. It is called health check. Ask Ari and he knows what it means. When you are stuck with the past.....not too much I can do.
As to the subject of the rights of Serbs in northern Kosovo....exactely as to Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja. Albanophobia will not be permitted anymore....

icj1

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

No and here's why by German pretending Albanian friend:

The KLA and Serbia are not equal because one is a country the other is an occupation.
(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:54)

Oh, dear Ari, but you are forgetting that Kosovo, Presevo, etc. are all Serbia and everybody in Serbia, whether Serbs or Albanians or anybody else should have the same rights.

If Serb municipalities in Serbia can form an association of municipalities, then Albanian municipalities (or any other municipalities in Serbia, for that matter) should be able to do the same. I think your confusion is coming from the fact that for a moment you forgot that Kosovo, Presevo, etc. is Serbia :)

Roger7

pre 11 godina

Joe, the Hungarain immigrant said, "Get ready to start feeling the wise tighten!!!" Rocky, Yes, high time for it."

hahaha Yes, Joe would agree with Rocky. They both have a lot in common when it comes to their false sense of superiority and questionable integrity. Two peas in a tight 'wise' (hahah)... I mean pod.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo."

Willi Pfaff


Are these the rights that you are talking about?

Serbs visit desecrated cemetery in southern K. Mitrovica
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=03&dd=09&nav_id=85084

Kosovo: Serb schoolchildren attacked at bus stop
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=01&dd=17&nav_id=84207

Kosovo: School van carrying Serb children stoned
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=02&dd=20&nav_id=8478

Listen you hypocrite! Why don't you stop with your BS?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

No and here's why by German pretending Albanian friend:

The KLA and Serbia are not equal because one is a country the other is an occupation. But to be even more specific here's what's most important...

In July 2011 when the terrorist ROSU unit came to invade northern Kosovo i Metohija they were beaten back to the hole they crawled out of.

When the Serbian army came to take down a monument to terrorists in Presevo, nobody stopped them.

So its simply not equal nor will it ever be. Mitrovica and Presevo=never equal and Belgrade and Pristina=never equal.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

I love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!
(Rocky, 9 March 2013 15:35)

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

At least you have "Willi Pfaff" to be your German spokesman to hopefully humanize you to the outside world......oh wait he's just another long list of Albanians who come on here pretending to be Westerners to somehow hurt our feelings maybe? Hilarious, you would think they just learned how to use the computer last week the way they behave!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

They have far better rights than Serbs could ever hope to have in Kosovo :)

gajo

pre 11 godina

the greeks want north epirus and is going back and since there is a large macedonian populace in albania then they should get their own municipalities and there is 50,000 serbs in albania and the serbs should get their own municipalities and the same with romas and other minorities and sthe minorities should start now.... albania is a small nation of 2.8 million and 35% are none albanian so lets all get this started,in kosovo the minorities have started to go together and this is good and as for the albanians in preshovo they are only 48,000 but only 5800 in reality from the census lol so get lost albanians anf move bac to alvania since your population is disapearing,.....

MikeC

pre 11 godina

I agree with the albanians. The rights serbs have in Kosovo albanians should have in Serbia proper. So, come on Serbs. Let's attack albanian mosques and albanian graveyards. Let's prevent medicine from reaching hospitals in Presevo. Let's prevent albanians from displaying national symbols. Let's force albanians to ask for Kfor protection when they go to the market. Albanians in Serbia don't know how well off they are.

Dennis

pre 11 godina

No, why dont you demand to be treated like the Serbs in the Southern enclaves. Oh I know why not, because it's worse than what you have now.

Bugar from Skoplje

pre 11 godina

Albos minority in Serbia wanted all rights from Serbia( Language, Education, Province, State... etc), did Serbs minority in Albania have similar rigth like this?

Rocky

pre 11 godina

I love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!

Miloš Obilić

pre 11 godina

They will demand that their community be modeled after a community of Serb municipalities in Kosovo.

A session of the assembly of Albanian municipal councilors from Preševo, Bujanovac and Medveđa is held today in Preševo.

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.

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So basically no rights.. fair enough

Milan

pre 11 godina

Ah, keeping up with the Joneses/copycat behavior. Maybe a little German or American bird whispered something into their eager ears. The question is what difference would it make for the Albanians in Southern Serbia? It seems that the Albanians in Southern Serbia have way more rights than the Serbs in Kosovo and so it is good that the Albanians in Southern Serbia recognize the behavior of their kind in Kosovo towards Serbs and other non-Serbs. It should be that the Serbs and non-Serbs in Kosovo should have the same rights as the Albanians in Southern Serbia! The problem is that the Albanians are trying to internationalize a so-called problem that is not even a problem. What is the problem? The monument, that glorified killed terrorists, which was removed recently? That you can have your own schools, culture, and language? They are just wining about nothing. In Southern Serbia the Albanians are less than 50% of the population and so swapping this area for Northern Kosovo for instance is not an option. Serbs and Albanians should be separated for the sake of both people, but it has to be fairly and the international community should pay for it partially.

Miloš Obilić

pre 11 godina

They will demand that their community be modeled after a community of Serb municipalities in Kosovo.

A session of the assembly of Albanian municipal councilors from Preševo, Bujanovac and Medveđa is held today in Preševo.

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.

=======.-.-.=======

So basically no rights.. fair enough

MikeC

pre 11 godina

I agree with the albanians. The rights serbs have in Kosovo albanians should have in Serbia proper. So, come on Serbs. Let's attack albanian mosques and albanian graveyards. Let's prevent medicine from reaching hospitals in Presevo. Let's prevent albanians from displaying national symbols. Let's force albanians to ask for Kfor protection when they go to the market. Albanians in Serbia don't know how well off they are.

Bugar from Skoplje

pre 11 godina

Albos minority in Serbia wanted all rights from Serbia( Language, Education, Province, State... etc), did Serbs minority in Albania have similar rigth like this?

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo."

Willi Pfaff


Are these the rights that you are talking about?

Serbs visit desecrated cemetery in southern K. Mitrovica
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=03&dd=09&nav_id=85084

Kosovo: Serb schoolchildren attacked at bus stop
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=01&dd=17&nav_id=84207

Kosovo: School van carrying Serb children stoned
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=02&dd=20&nav_id=8478

Listen you hypocrite! Why don't you stop with your BS?

Milan

pre 11 godina

Ah, keeping up with the Joneses/copycat behavior. Maybe a little German or American bird whispered something into their eager ears. The question is what difference would it make for the Albanians in Southern Serbia? It seems that the Albanians in Southern Serbia have way more rights than the Serbs in Kosovo and so it is good that the Albanians in Southern Serbia recognize the behavior of their kind in Kosovo towards Serbs and other non-Serbs. It should be that the Serbs and non-Serbs in Kosovo should have the same rights as the Albanians in Southern Serbia! The problem is that the Albanians are trying to internationalize a so-called problem that is not even a problem. What is the problem? The monument, that glorified killed terrorists, which was removed recently? That you can have your own schools, culture, and language? They are just wining about nothing. In Southern Serbia the Albanians are less than 50% of the population and so swapping this area for Northern Kosovo for instance is not an option. Serbs and Albanians should be separated for the sake of both people, but it has to be fairly and the international community should pay for it partially.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

I love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

No and here's why by German pretending Albanian friend:

The KLA and Serbia are not equal because one is a country the other is an occupation. But to be even more specific here's what's most important...

In July 2011 when the terrorist ROSU unit came to invade northern Kosovo i Metohija they were beaten back to the hole they crawled out of.

When the Serbian army came to take down a monument to terrorists in Presevo, nobody stopped them.

So its simply not equal nor will it ever be. Mitrovica and Presevo=never equal and Belgrade and Pristina=never equal.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

They have far better rights than Serbs could ever hope to have in Kosovo :)

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

I love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!
(Rocky, 9 March 2013 15:35)

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

At least you have "Willi Pfaff" to be your German spokesman to hopefully humanize you to the outside world......oh wait he's just another long list of Albanians who come on here pretending to be Westerners to somehow hurt our feelings maybe? Hilarious, you would think they just learned how to use the computer last week the way they behave!

Dennis

pre 11 godina

No, why dont you demand to be treated like the Serbs in the Southern enclaves. Oh I know why not, because it's worse than what you have now.

gajo

pre 11 godina

the greeks want north epirus and is going back and since there is a large macedonian populace in albania then they should get their own municipalities and there is 50,000 serbs in albania and the serbs should get their own municipalities and the same with romas and other minorities and sthe minorities should start now.... albania is a small nation of 2.8 million and 35% are none albanian so lets all get this started,in kosovo the minorities have started to go together and this is good and as for the albanians in preshovo they are only 48,000 but only 5800 in reality from the census lol so get lost albanians anf move bac to alvania since your population is disapearing,.....

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:57)

Fake Ari Gold, we do have our problems which we are not proud of!
But we did not kill our prime minister yet. We have nobody residing at Hague jails also. And we did not do and lost4 wars

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

albania is a small nation of 2.8 million and 35% are none albanian so lets all get this started
(gajo, 9 March 2013 17:04)

Gajo, are you OK? Because this my be your book that is saying 35% nonalbanian. Last census made in Albania is:


Mother tongue Population %
Albanian 2,765,610 98.8
Greek 15,196 0.5
Macedonian 4,443 0.16
Romani 4,025 0.14
Aromanian 3,848 0.13
Turkish 714 0.03
Italian 523 0.02
Other 1,936 0.07
Not relevant 3,843 0,13

Albanians in Albania as for census 2011 is 98.8%. And even in Kosovo is like 94% Albanian.
I also read here about North Epirus. Not only North Epirus is Albanian but also South Epirus too. Greek people that wright here forget that if was not for Albanians there will not be Greece today.

Roger7

pre 11 godina

Joe, the Hungarain immigrant said, "Get ready to start feeling the wise tighten!!!" Rocky, Yes, high time for it."

hahaha Yes, Joe would agree with Rocky. They both have a lot in common when it comes to their false sense of superiority and questionable integrity. Two peas in a tight 'wise' (hahah)... I mean pod.

trizo

pre 11 godina

I agree with the albanians. The rights serbs have in Kosovo albanians should have in Serbia proper. So, come on Serbs. Let's attack albanian mosques and albanian graveyards. Let's prevent medicine from reaching hospitals in Presevo. Let's prevent albanians from displaying national symbols. Let's force albanians to ask for Kfor protection when they go to the market. Albanians in Serbia don't know how well off they are.
(MikeC, 9 March 2013 17:14)

When you Albanians can READ this comment from MikeC then you would realise the truth.

The only thing MikeC didn't mention was how the Serbs in Albania are treated?

Do the Serbs in Albania also deserve this what you're asking for????

Can any Albanian come back with a civilised response?

We can't practice our religion or even have our orthodox names in Albania, so why should we give you any rights at all? you already have far more rights than you give anyone else.

Ps: Presevo is Serbian, Medvedja is Serbian and Bujanovac is Serbian, Kosovo is Serbian.

The only rights you should have is to stfu and realise your own behaviour in your own country (Albania) - you are 100% biased in your opinions. You take everything and give nothing.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.
====================================

They have the same rights as the Serbs in Serbia so what else do they want?
Serbs in north Kosovo have the rights as Serbs in Serbia because Kosovo IS Serbia. They should get that by now.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

No and here's why by German pretending Albanian friend:

The KLA and Serbia are not equal because one is a country the other is an occupation.
(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:54)

Oh, dear Ari, but you are forgetting that Kosovo, Presevo, etc. are all Serbia and everybody in Serbia, whether Serbs or Albanians or anybody else should have the same rights.

If Serb municipalities in Serbia can form an association of municipalities, then Albanian municipalities (or any other municipalities in Serbia, for that matter) should be able to do the same. I think your confusion is coming from the fact that for a moment you forgot that Kosovo, Presevo, etc. is Serbia :)

EA

pre 11 godina

MikeC,

You started wars and am not sure whether you regret or still praying for Milloshevic....That is your problem and there is a solution go it. It is called health check. Ask Ari and he knows what it means. When you are stuck with the past.....not too much I can do.
As to the subject of the rights of Serbs in northern Kosovo....exactely as to Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja. Albanophobia will not be permitted anymore....

adrian, timisoara,romania

pre 11 godina

Pandora`s Box is open. Hungarians, bosnians, vlachs, bulgarians etc. - they all can ask for the same rights.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Ask Ari and he knows what it means. "

EA

Ask Ari? Why don't you tell me? Besides I have no clue to what it is you want to say with your comment. I'm stuck in the past? Yet you are the one bringing up Milosevic and the wars. Are you aware of what it is you are writing?

Sofronije

pre 11 godina

@ gjon fusha, 9 March 2013 22:29)
I did not see any Serbs in your Albanian population list.
Did albos count all serbs in Albania to bo Albos near 2 milion?
Becouse 10 century ago all people in Today Albania is only Serb and Greeaks.

rocky

pre 11 godina

love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!
(Rocky, 9 March 2013 15:35)

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:57) At least you have "Willi Pfaff" to be your German spokesman to hopefully humanize you to the outside world......oh wait he's just another long list of Albanians who come on here pretending to be Westerners to somehow hurt our feelings maybe? Hilarious, you would think they just learned how to use the computer last week the way they behave!


Ari, you Serbs radicals have also helped the Albanian cause, by bringing us Albanians together, an more ways then you would suspect, so thank you, thank you very much!!!

Demi

pre 11 godina

The serb comments here are not very serious. Maybee that is why their politicans and state are not serious too. Kosova is independent from Serbia (fact). It is dependent on various worldpowers as so is every country (fact). Just to be clear before serbs jump and say that US backs Albanians. Where is mother Russia for you serbs ?

If you want special rights for serbs in Kosova then you must be ready to offer the Albanians in Serbia the same rights. It's not more than fair by my logic. This would have been logical even if Kosova was an part of Serbia. Right ?

As for Ari Gold wich states that Kosova and Serbia are not equal then you can ask Dacic if that is true. I think that he and Hashim Thaqi negotiate on equal terms. But as long as you serbs have that kind of thinking that serbs and Albanians are not equals then there will not be any reconiciliation beetwen our people.

Serbia can twist things how much they want but Kosova will in the end be victorious. The right both legaly and moraly is on The side of Kosova.

gajo

pre 11 godina

Mother tongue Population %
Albanian 2,765,610 98.8
Greek … 15,196 0.5
Macedonian 4,443 0.16
Romani … 4,025 0.14
Aromanian 3,848 0.13
Turkish … 714 0.03
Italian … 523 0.02
Other … 1,936 0.07
Not relevant 3,843 0,13

Albanians in Albania as for census 2011 is 98.8%. And even in Kosovo is like 94% Albanian.
I also read here about North Epirus. Not only North Epirus is Albanian but also South Epirus too. Greek people that wright here forget that if was not for Albanians there will not be Greece today.
(gjon fusha, 9 March 2013 22:29) really well heres reality lol

Population of Albania according to ethnic group 2011

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDemographics_of_Albania&ei=m9w7Ub2bNKW02wXq6ICQCg&usg=AFQjCNFUOshnE0F3uswCiVnjpB7Pem6J2w&bvm=bv.43287494,d.b2I

and not mother toungue lol

albanians are 2,312,356 82%

At the 2011 census a total of 390,938 (14% of the total population) did not declare their nationality, while another 44,144 (1.6%) considered the nationality as 'not relevant' ...

Albania recognizes three national minorities, Greeks, Macedonians and Montenegrins, and two cultural minorities, Aromanians and Romani people.[5] As conducting a satisfactory census of ethnic minorities is one of the country's commitments to the European Union,

Get a grip

pre 11 godina

Robert1899 the reason Serbia fails to get any international support or sympathy is the constant melodrama and extreme exaggeration.
Serbs in Kosovo live in typical Kosovo villages just as (if not better than) their Albanian neighbors. They do not live behind barb wire. You try the symapathy card because electricity is cut for non payment but so it is with the Albanians and the French in France, and the Americans in the US. You cry foul because illegal phone towers are tumbled just like in Canada or Russia or Greece. You want sympathy for vandalixm to deserted graveyards when you yourself are responsible for multiple mass graves. A woman widowed by Serb forces throws a rock at a bus of Serbs and it is called ethnic cleansing.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

They have far better rights than Serbs could ever hope to have in Kosovo :)
(Balkan Anthropologist,
Milan

So, they want less rights, right?
What an idiotic comment!

Serbia, being a great and progressive country that it is, one that respects and values its minorities should accept their request immediately as a sign of good will amid the negotiations that are taking place in Brussels.

I guess the Serb political brain cells didn't predict this one.
Or did they? And, is this another way out for them?!

BOPA

pre 11 godina

It takes two to dance tango, if Belgrade expects Pristina to accept their proposal then why cant Belgrade accept the same inside their borders, and even without executive powers on which Belgrade insist for their own ppl in Kosovo. Truth be told you Serbs act as if someone owe you anything even though you lost all rights what has Kosovo on it in '99. This might sound controversal but I keep hearing your villages are dying out, most young ppl moving out to Belgrade and Nis, why not repopulate with K-Serbs? Taking advantage of Kosovo not having an army and being a weak state this will sooner then later take and end I can only guess the new generation wont be as generous.

icj1

pre 11 godina

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.
===…==

They have the same rights as the Serbs in Serbia so what else do they want?
Serbs in north Kosovo have the rights as Serbs in Serbia because Kosovo IS Serbia. They should get that by now.
(Peggy, 10 March 2013 09:38)

Ok, so you agree than that if some Serb municipalities in Serbia get the right to form an association of municipalities, the same goes for the Albanian municipalities in Serbia.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Ps: Presevo is Serbian, Medvedja is Serbian and Bujanovac is Serbian, Kosovo is Serbian.
(trizo, 10 March 2013 08:05)

Not just those... also the Balkans are Serbian, Europe is Serbian, the Earth is Serbian, the Moon is Serbian, the Solar System is Serbian, the Milky Way Galaxy is Serbian, the Universe is Serbian and even what existed before the Universe was Serbian.

You see, it was easy - at the stroke of a pen (or keyboard in this case) we made everything Serbian. You might even want to write that in the Serbian Constitution, built some monasteries in the places above and also lose some battle with aliens in the inter-galactic space, so that future Serbian generations can claim that all of the above is the craddle of the Serbian civilization...

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Ok, so you agree than that if some Serb municipalities in Serbia get the right to form an association of municipalities, the same goes for the Albanian municipalities in Serbia.
(icj1, 10 March 2013 17:36)
============================

If you don't understand what I wrote why do you reply?

Rocky

pre 11 godina

I love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!

Milan

pre 11 godina

Ah, keeping up with the Joneses/copycat behavior. Maybe a little German or American bird whispered something into their eager ears. The question is what difference would it make for the Albanians in Southern Serbia? It seems that the Albanians in Southern Serbia have way more rights than the Serbs in Kosovo and so it is good that the Albanians in Southern Serbia recognize the behavior of their kind in Kosovo towards Serbs and other non-Serbs. It should be that the Serbs and non-Serbs in Kosovo should have the same rights as the Albanians in Southern Serbia! The problem is that the Albanians are trying to internationalize a so-called problem that is not even a problem. What is the problem? The monument, that glorified killed terrorists, which was removed recently? That you can have your own schools, culture, and language? They are just wining about nothing. In Southern Serbia the Albanians are less than 50% of the population and so swapping this area for Northern Kosovo for instance is not an option. Serbs and Albanians should be separated for the sake of both people, but it has to be fairly and the international community should pay for it partially.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

No and here's why by German pretending Albanian friend:

The KLA and Serbia are not equal because one is a country the other is an occupation. But to be even more specific here's what's most important...

In July 2011 when the terrorist ROSU unit came to invade northern Kosovo i Metohija they were beaten back to the hole they crawled out of.

When the Serbian army came to take down a monument to terrorists in Presevo, nobody stopped them.

So its simply not equal nor will it ever be. Mitrovica and Presevo=never equal and Belgrade and Pristina=never equal.

Miloš Obilić

pre 11 godina

They will demand that their community be modeled after a community of Serb municipalities in Kosovo.

A session of the assembly of Albanian municipal councilors from Preševo, Bujanovac and Medveđa is held today in Preševo.

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.

=======.-.-.=======

So basically no rights.. fair enough

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

I love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!
(Rocky, 9 March 2013 15:35)

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

At least you have "Willi Pfaff" to be your German spokesman to hopefully humanize you to the outside world......oh wait he's just another long list of Albanians who come on here pretending to be Westerners to somehow hurt our feelings maybe? Hilarious, you would think they just learned how to use the computer last week the way they behave!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo."

Willi Pfaff


Are these the rights that you are talking about?

Serbs visit desecrated cemetery in southern K. Mitrovica
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=03&dd=09&nav_id=85084

Kosovo: Serb schoolchildren attacked at bus stop
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=01&dd=17&nav_id=84207

Kosovo: School van carrying Serb children stoned
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=02&dd=20&nav_id=8478

Listen you hypocrite! Why don't you stop with your BS?

gajo

pre 11 godina

the greeks want north epirus and is going back and since there is a large macedonian populace in albania then they should get their own municipalities and there is 50,000 serbs in albania and the serbs should get their own municipalities and the same with romas and other minorities and sthe minorities should start now.... albania is a small nation of 2.8 million and 35% are none albanian so lets all get this started,in kosovo the minorities have started to go together and this is good and as for the albanians in preshovo they are only 48,000 but only 5800 in reality from the census lol so get lost albanians anf move bac to alvania since your population is disapearing,.....

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

They have far better rights than Serbs could ever hope to have in Kosovo :)

EA

pre 11 godina

MikeC,

You started wars and am not sure whether you regret or still praying for Milloshevic....That is your problem and there is a solution go it. It is called health check. Ask Ari and he knows what it means. When you are stuck with the past.....not too much I can do.
As to the subject of the rights of Serbs in northern Kosovo....exactely as to Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja. Albanophobia will not be permitted anymore....

Bugar from Skoplje

pre 11 godina

Albos minority in Serbia wanted all rights from Serbia( Language, Education, Province, State... etc), did Serbs minority in Albania have similar rigth like this?

MikeC

pre 11 godina

I agree with the albanians. The rights serbs have in Kosovo albanians should have in Serbia proper. So, come on Serbs. Let's attack albanian mosques and albanian graveyards. Let's prevent medicine from reaching hospitals in Presevo. Let's prevent albanians from displaying national symbols. Let's force albanians to ask for Kfor protection when they go to the market. Albanians in Serbia don't know how well off they are.

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:57)

Fake Ari Gold, we do have our problems which we are not proud of!
But we did not kill our prime minister yet. We have nobody residing at Hague jails also. And we did not do and lost4 wars

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

albania is a small nation of 2.8 million and 35% are none albanian so lets all get this started
(gajo, 9 March 2013 17:04)

Gajo, are you OK? Because this my be your book that is saying 35% nonalbanian. Last census made in Albania is:


Mother tongue Population %
Albanian 2,765,610 98.8
Greek 15,196 0.5
Macedonian 4,443 0.16
Romani 4,025 0.14
Aromanian 3,848 0.13
Turkish 714 0.03
Italian 523 0.02
Other 1,936 0.07
Not relevant 3,843 0,13

Albanians in Albania as for census 2011 is 98.8%. And even in Kosovo is like 94% Albanian.
I also read here about North Epirus. Not only North Epirus is Albanian but also South Epirus too. Greek people that wright here forget that if was not for Albanians there will not be Greece today.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

No and here's why by German pretending Albanian friend:

The KLA and Serbia are not equal because one is a country the other is an occupation.
(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:54)

Oh, dear Ari, but you are forgetting that Kosovo, Presevo, etc. are all Serbia and everybody in Serbia, whether Serbs or Albanians or anybody else should have the same rights.

If Serb municipalities in Serbia can form an association of municipalities, then Albanian municipalities (or any other municipalities in Serbia, for that matter) should be able to do the same. I think your confusion is coming from the fact that for a moment you forgot that Kosovo, Presevo, etc. is Serbia :)

Dennis

pre 11 godina

No, why dont you demand to be treated like the Serbs in the Southern enclaves. Oh I know why not, because it's worse than what you have now.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.
====================================

They have the same rights as the Serbs in Serbia so what else do they want?
Serbs in north Kosovo have the rights as Serbs in Serbia because Kosovo IS Serbia. They should get that by now.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Ps: Presevo is Serbian, Medvedja is Serbian and Bujanovac is Serbian, Kosovo is Serbian.
(trizo, 10 March 2013 08:05)

Not just those... also the Balkans are Serbian, Europe is Serbian, the Earth is Serbian, the Moon is Serbian, the Solar System is Serbian, the Milky Way Galaxy is Serbian, the Universe is Serbian and even what existed before the Universe was Serbian.

You see, it was easy - at the stroke of a pen (or keyboard in this case) we made everything Serbian. You might even want to write that in the Serbian Constitution, built some monasteries in the places above and also lose some battle with aliens in the inter-galactic space, so that future Serbian generations can claim that all of the above is the craddle of the Serbian civilization...

trizo

pre 11 godina

I agree with the albanians. The rights serbs have in Kosovo albanians should have in Serbia proper. So, come on Serbs. Let's attack albanian mosques and albanian graveyards. Let's prevent medicine from reaching hospitals in Presevo. Let's prevent albanians from displaying national symbols. Let's force albanians to ask for Kfor protection when they go to the market. Albanians in Serbia don't know how well off they are.
(MikeC, 9 March 2013 17:14)

When you Albanians can READ this comment from MikeC then you would realise the truth.

The only thing MikeC didn't mention was how the Serbs in Albania are treated?

Do the Serbs in Albania also deserve this what you're asking for????

Can any Albanian come back with a civilised response?

We can't practice our religion or even have our orthodox names in Albania, so why should we give you any rights at all? you already have far more rights than you give anyone else.

Ps: Presevo is Serbian, Medvedja is Serbian and Bujanovac is Serbian, Kosovo is Serbian.

The only rights you should have is to stfu and realise your own behaviour in your own country (Albania) - you are 100% biased in your opinions. You take everything and give nothing.

Roger7

pre 11 godina

Joe, the Hungarain immigrant said, "Get ready to start feeling the wise tighten!!!" Rocky, Yes, high time for it."

hahaha Yes, Joe would agree with Rocky. They both have a lot in common when it comes to their false sense of superiority and questionable integrity. Two peas in a tight 'wise' (hahah)... I mean pod.

rocky

pre 11 godina

love seeing, that the Albanian people still live by their ancestral traditions! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth! Serbia, 2 can play this game! Get ready to start feeling the vise tighten!!!
(Rocky, 9 March 2013 15:35)

Are you also proud when the Albanians use the vendetta philosophy when they murder each others families for crimes committed in past generations? At least you are proud of your barbaric behavior.

(Ari Gold, 9 March 2013 18:57) At least you have "Willi Pfaff" to be your German spokesman to hopefully humanize you to the outside world......oh wait he's just another long list of Albanians who come on here pretending to be Westerners to somehow hurt our feelings maybe? Hilarious, you would think they just learned how to use the computer last week the way they behave!


Ari, you Serbs radicals have also helped the Albanian cause, by bringing us Albanians together, an more ways then you would suspect, so thank you, thank you very much!!!

BOPA

pre 11 godina

It takes two to dance tango, if Belgrade expects Pristina to accept their proposal then why cant Belgrade accept the same inside their borders, and even without executive powers on which Belgrade insist for their own ppl in Kosovo. Truth be told you Serbs act as if someone owe you anything even though you lost all rights what has Kosovo on it in '99. This might sound controversal but I keep hearing your villages are dying out, most young ppl moving out to Belgrade and Nis, why not repopulate with K-Serbs? Taking advantage of Kosovo not having an army and being a weak state this will sooner then later take and end I can only guess the new generation wont be as generous.

Sofronije

pre 11 godina

@ gjon fusha, 9 March 2013 22:29)
I did not see any Serbs in your Albanian population list.
Did albos count all serbs in Albania to bo Albos near 2 milion?
Becouse 10 century ago all people in Today Albania is only Serb and Greeaks.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

Nothing but fair. They should have the exact same rights as Serbs in Kosovo.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 March 2013 15:58)

They have far better rights than Serbs could ever hope to have in Kosovo :)
(Balkan Anthropologist,
Milan

So, they want less rights, right?
What an idiotic comment!

Serbia, being a great and progressive country that it is, one that respects and values its minorities should accept their request immediately as a sign of good will amid the negotiations that are taking place in Brussels.

I guess the Serb political brain cells didn't predict this one.
Or did they? And, is this another way out for them?!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Ask Ari and he knows what it means. "

EA

Ask Ari? Why don't you tell me? Besides I have no clue to what it is you want to say with your comment. I'm stuck in the past? Yet you are the one bringing up Milosevic and the wars. Are you aware of what it is you are writing?

icj1

pre 11 godina

The ethnic Albanians stand by their positions that they should have at least the same rights as Serbs in northern Kosovo.
===…==

They have the same rights as the Serbs in Serbia so what else do they want?
Serbs in north Kosovo have the rights as Serbs in Serbia because Kosovo IS Serbia. They should get that by now.
(Peggy, 10 March 2013 09:38)

Ok, so you agree than that if some Serb municipalities in Serbia get the right to form an association of municipalities, the same goes for the Albanian municipalities in Serbia.

Demi

pre 11 godina

The serb comments here are not very serious. Maybee that is why their politicans and state are not serious too. Kosova is independent from Serbia (fact). It is dependent on various worldpowers as so is every country (fact). Just to be clear before serbs jump and say that US backs Albanians. Where is mother Russia for you serbs ?

If you want special rights for serbs in Kosova then you must be ready to offer the Albanians in Serbia the same rights. It's not more than fair by my logic. This would have been logical even if Kosova was an part of Serbia. Right ?

As for Ari Gold wich states that Kosova and Serbia are not equal then you can ask Dacic if that is true. I think that he and Hashim Thaqi negotiate on equal terms. But as long as you serbs have that kind of thinking that serbs and Albanians are not equals then there will not be any reconiciliation beetwen our people.

Serbia can twist things how much they want but Kosova will in the end be victorious. The right both legaly and moraly is on The side of Kosova.

adrian, timisoara,romania

pre 11 godina

Pandora`s Box is open. Hungarians, bosnians, vlachs, bulgarians etc. - they all can ask for the same rights.

gajo

pre 11 godina

Mother tongue Population %
Albanian 2,765,610 98.8
Greek … 15,196 0.5
Macedonian 4,443 0.16
Romani … 4,025 0.14
Aromanian 3,848 0.13
Turkish … 714 0.03
Italian … 523 0.02
Other … 1,936 0.07
Not relevant 3,843 0,13

Albanians in Albania as for census 2011 is 98.8%. And even in Kosovo is like 94% Albanian.
I also read here about North Epirus. Not only North Epirus is Albanian but also South Epirus too. Greek people that wright here forget that if was not for Albanians there will not be Greece today.
(gjon fusha, 9 March 2013 22:29) really well heres reality lol

Population of Albania according to ethnic group 2011

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDemographics_of_Albania&ei=m9w7Ub2bNKW02wXq6ICQCg&usg=AFQjCNFUOshnE0F3uswCiVnjpB7Pem6J2w&bvm=bv.43287494,d.b2I

and not mother toungue lol

albanians are 2,312,356 82%

At the 2011 census a total of 390,938 (14% of the total population) did not declare their nationality, while another 44,144 (1.6%) considered the nationality as 'not relevant' ...

Albania recognizes three national minorities, Greeks, Macedonians and Montenegrins, and two cultural minorities, Aromanians and Romani people.[5] As conducting a satisfactory census of ethnic minorities is one of the country's commitments to the European Union,

Get a grip

pre 11 godina

Robert1899 the reason Serbia fails to get any international support or sympathy is the constant melodrama and extreme exaggeration.
Serbs in Kosovo live in typical Kosovo villages just as (if not better than) their Albanian neighbors. They do not live behind barb wire. You try the symapathy card because electricity is cut for non payment but so it is with the Albanians and the French in France, and the Americans in the US. You cry foul because illegal phone towers are tumbled just like in Canada or Russia or Greece. You want sympathy for vandalixm to deserted graveyards when you yourself are responsible for multiple mass graves. A woman widowed by Serb forces throws a rock at a bus of Serbs and it is called ethnic cleansing.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Ok, so you agree than that if some Serb municipalities in Serbia get the right to form an association of municipalities, the same goes for the Albanian municipalities in Serbia.
(icj1, 10 March 2013 17:36)
============================

If you don't understand what I wrote why do you reply?