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U.S. against executive powers for Serb municipalities

The U.S. is against giving executive powers and immediate elections to the community of Serb municipalities, Tanjug has learned in Washington.

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Peggy

pre 11 godina

For the internet warlords of albanian or serbian diaspora who dream of greater this and greater that i don't give a damn.
(thanasis, 10 March 2013 15:28)
==============================
I will thank you not to put us Serbs in the same category as greater this or that.
We never wanted a break up of Yugoslavia so that blows your theory of greater Serbia right out of the water.
We the Serbs, were attacked in our homes in Croatia and Bosnia because Croatians and Bosniaks wanted their own states without us in them or with us totally submitting to their former Nazi selves.
Please tell us what is your proof of us wanting greater anything. Did we attack the Croatians, Bosniaks and Albanians in order to expand anything?
I really find your words very offensive.
Do you even know how and who started the whole mess?

thanasis

pre 11 godina

This debate about functional and less functional states is really pointless. No functional state has emerged from the ruins of ex Jugoslavia and that's that. They are all disfunctional little protectorates, with corrupted elits or local mafias reigning over them, totally dependent and attached to foreign powers in order to survive (the elits not the states). It's really sad to see what has become of a great once country. I think my comment will be best understood and appreciated by the people who still live in the geographical aera which was once Jugoslavia. For the internet warlords of albanian or serbian diaspora who dream of greater this and greater that i don't give a damn.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"The self-declared "republic of serbs" is the reason why Bosnia is a failed state. "
(KOSO, 9 March 2013 14:46)

I think you got something wrong: The RS is a constitutional entity of Bosnia-Herzegovina. There's only ONE self-declared Republic in the Balkans. It is called the 'Republic of Kosovo'. But for one thing you are right: This self-declared republic can surely be called a failed stated: One of the most corrupt 'states' in Europe, it is ruled by mafia clans and election faking politicians who turned this place into Europe's main drug hub.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Bosnia a functioning entity my behind. They're at the merci of RS, who have the power to veto anything and why pretend otherwise, RS is controlled by Belgrade's tentacles. It's better to lose the North totally than give Serbia ANY hand in Kosova's sovereignty

Daddy

pre 11 godina

Mummy, do serbs wear feathers like Indians did?
(Joe, 9 March 2013 20:42)

Get your hand out of that turkey Joe. You know it makes you do funny things.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

The US should stay out of internal affairs of other countries. What right do they have to dictate what happens in other countries?
Does anyone stick their nose in their affairs?
Who do they think they are and which God gave them the right to dictate to the world?
One day their reign of terror will end.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Who cares what you think US. Continue ruining your country and making your people and the rest of the world obese.

The most evil empire to date.

Brian

pre 11 godina

The united states is so stupid with everything regarding Serbia and kosovo. Nothing about this in anyway undermines Kosovo independence in fact it endorses it. Seems like the us would jump at because serbia is completely recognizing Kosovo independence.

Reader

pre 11 godina

Again with the story that RS was a US creation? Denying the sacrifices and hard work of General Mladic and his friends? Tsk tsk tsk guys, I know history can be bended, but there must be a limit, otherwise you will offend a lot of people who fought on the ground for the survival and creation of RS. You know, the Serb "heroes" commanded by Mladic around Srebrenica in July 1995 for example.

Joe

pre 11 godina

"biological" Austrian = Serb born in Austria? If "biological" Greek, Italian, Spaniard, French or German, all these "biological" Europeans proved since WWII that they can't manage their affairs without the US leading them. Their inability to do something on their own without US leadership was especially visible in the nineties in the Balkans. The US had to step in and guide them. Also, as Rocky pointed out they had to be saved by the US after WWI and WWII.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yea lets blame Putin, for NATO not being able to deal with Yugoslav army back in 1999, and being forced to sign UN resolution 12 44. Only thing that prevents Kosovo from becoming fully recognized country
(Putin scary monster, 9 March 2013 15:02)

Well, just in case you've not heard the news from the last three years, Vuk fought tooth and nail to make it clear that Kosovo's Declaration of Independence was in accordance with UNSCR 1244 - so that chapter is closed thanks to Vuk's excellent work.

As for who was or was not forced to accept UNSCR 1244, I think we can refer to what Serbia stated in the UNSC chamber minutes before UNSCR 1244 was approved on June 20, 1999:

"By adopting the present text of the resolution, the Security Council would write out one of the darkest pages of its history. In doing so, not only would the Security Council be instrumental in a de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State, but would also set a negative precedent with far-reaching consequences for overall international relations"

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/OpenSes
at 29:20

Have a good day!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

“We want a functional solution, not another Republic of Srpska in Kosovo,” he noted.

If they want a functional solution, why does the US support the Pristina government? Nothing is 'functional' there but corruption and crime.

Seriously, compared to Kosovo, Bosnia is a high-level state.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

I thought that Republika Srpska was created by the Dayton agreement which gave birth to Bosnia Hercegovina as we know it today. That was supposed to be the masterpiece of US diplomacy which ended a horrible war. How come now it has become an example to be avoided? The Americans should be more sincere and confess that they would have preferred a Serb-free Bosnia but since that didn't work out (as it worked out in Croatia) they had to make a compromise and give Bosnia Serbs their own political entity.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“We want a functional solution, not another Republic of Srpska in Kosovo,” he noted.

Ironically, RS - a creation by the US - IS a functional solution. Try looking at the rest of Bosnia to see how bad it is. Ah so that's it. The US doesn't want an RS in Kosovo upstaging its, ahem, "functioning democratic system" they worked so hard to believe is working in Pristina :)

If you think about it, RS was one of the best things America created in the last 20 years. No wonder they hate it because in comparison to everything else, it works like a Swiss watch :)

biological austrian

pre 11 godina

These US-guys should be very noiseless, when it comes to european politics. they have their own problems. So stay away from europe and manage your own politics in the states.

It's also very funny, when a US-guy tries to tell us, that he doesn't want a republika srpska in kosovo. Remember - the propoposal for the creation of the republika srpska came from the US

Rocky

pre 11 godina

WW1, Europe needed the USA's assistance! WW2, yet again it took the assistance of the USA to bring peace to Europe!! It is time for the USA to have its say in European policy! The USA has earned the right to dictate policy in Europe! Kosova should put kosovar & America interest's first, before all others Period!

Putin scary monster

pre 11 godina

(werner Deuster, 9 March 2013 13:44)

Yea lets blame Putin, for NATO not being able to deal with Yugoslav army back in 1999, and being forced to sign UN resolution 12 44. Only thing that prevents Kosovo from becoming fully recognized country

Robert1899

pre 11 godina

"The US doesn't want another Republika Srpska in kosovo". Now that is a pretty amusing comment since Republika Srpska is the functional half of Bosnia. I guess the US is content with a nonfunctional kosovo like the Bosnian Federation.

werner Deuster

pre 11 godina

Serbia might as well forget it all. It will not, and should not get what it wants for the serbs in the north. It showed absolutly no flexibility in the talks so far and will have to give up its so called platform if it wants to get anywhere. It is not making friends anywhere in the EU, and everybody has heard their BS often enough. Just sit on uncle Putins lap and cry a bit. You will see than what you lost out on, but than it will be too late.

Robert1899

pre 11 godina

"The US doesn't want another Republika Srpska in kosovo". Now that is a pretty amusing comment since Republika Srpska is the functional half of Bosnia. I guess the US is content with a nonfunctional kosovo like the Bosnian Federation.

biological austrian

pre 11 godina

These US-guys should be very noiseless, when it comes to european politics. they have their own problems. So stay away from europe and manage your own politics in the states.

It's also very funny, when a US-guy tries to tell us, that he doesn't want a republika srpska in kosovo. Remember - the propoposal for the creation of the republika srpska came from the US

thanasis

pre 11 godina

I thought that Republika Srpska was created by the Dayton agreement which gave birth to Bosnia Hercegovina as we know it today. That was supposed to be the masterpiece of US diplomacy which ended a horrible war. How come now it has become an example to be avoided? The Americans should be more sincere and confess that they would have preferred a Serb-free Bosnia but since that didn't work out (as it worked out in Croatia) they had to make a compromise and give Bosnia Serbs their own political entity.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

“We want a functional solution, not another Republic of Srpska in Kosovo,” he noted.

If they want a functional solution, why does the US support the Pristina government? Nothing is 'functional' there but corruption and crime.

Seriously, compared to Kosovo, Bosnia is a high-level state.

Putin scary monster

pre 11 godina

(werner Deuster, 9 March 2013 13:44)

Yea lets blame Putin, for NATO not being able to deal with Yugoslav army back in 1999, and being forced to sign UN resolution 12 44. Only thing that prevents Kosovo from becoming fully recognized country

werner Deuster

pre 11 godina

Serbia might as well forget it all. It will not, and should not get what it wants for the serbs in the north. It showed absolutly no flexibility in the talks so far and will have to give up its so called platform if it wants to get anywhere. It is not making friends anywhere in the EU, and everybody has heard their BS often enough. Just sit on uncle Putins lap and cry a bit. You will see than what you lost out on, but than it will be too late.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“We want a functional solution, not another Republic of Srpska in Kosovo,” he noted.

Ironically, RS - a creation by the US - IS a functional solution. Try looking at the rest of Bosnia to see how bad it is. Ah so that's it. The US doesn't want an RS in Kosovo upstaging its, ahem, "functioning democratic system" they worked so hard to believe is working in Pristina :)

If you think about it, RS was one of the best things America created in the last 20 years. No wonder they hate it because in comparison to everything else, it works like a Swiss watch :)

Rocky

pre 11 godina

WW1, Europe needed the USA's assistance! WW2, yet again it took the assistance of the USA to bring peace to Europe!! It is time for the USA to have its say in European policy! The USA has earned the right to dictate policy in Europe! Kosova should put kosovar & America interest's first, before all others Period!

Reader

pre 11 godina

Again with the story that RS was a US creation? Denying the sacrifices and hard work of General Mladic and his friends? Tsk tsk tsk guys, I know history can be bended, but there must be a limit, otherwise you will offend a lot of people who fought on the ground for the survival and creation of RS. You know, the Serb "heroes" commanded by Mladic around Srebrenica in July 1995 for example.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

The US should stay out of internal affairs of other countries. What right do they have to dictate what happens in other countries?
Does anyone stick their nose in their affairs?
Who do they think they are and which God gave them the right to dictate to the world?
One day their reign of terror will end.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yea lets blame Putin, for NATO not being able to deal with Yugoslav army back in 1999, and being forced to sign UN resolution 12 44. Only thing that prevents Kosovo from becoming fully recognized country
(Putin scary monster, 9 March 2013 15:02)

Well, just in case you've not heard the news from the last three years, Vuk fought tooth and nail to make it clear that Kosovo's Declaration of Independence was in accordance with UNSCR 1244 - so that chapter is closed thanks to Vuk's excellent work.

As for who was or was not forced to accept UNSCR 1244, I think we can refer to what Serbia stated in the UNSC chamber minutes before UNSCR 1244 was approved on June 20, 1999:

"By adopting the present text of the resolution, the Security Council would write out one of the darkest pages of its history. In doing so, not only would the Security Council be instrumental in a de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State, but would also set a negative precedent with far-reaching consequences for overall international relations"

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/OpenSes
at 29:20

Have a good day!

Joe

pre 11 godina

"biological" Austrian = Serb born in Austria? If "biological" Greek, Italian, Spaniard, French or German, all these "biological" Europeans proved since WWII that they can't manage their affairs without the US leading them. Their inability to do something on their own without US leadership was especially visible in the nineties in the Balkans. The US had to step in and guide them. Also, as Rocky pointed out they had to be saved by the US after WWI and WWII.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Who cares what you think US. Continue ruining your country and making your people and the rest of the world obese.

The most evil empire to date.

Daddy

pre 11 godina

Mummy, do serbs wear feathers like Indians did?
(Joe, 9 March 2013 20:42)

Get your hand out of that turkey Joe. You know it makes you do funny things.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

For the internet warlords of albanian or serbian diaspora who dream of greater this and greater that i don't give a damn.
(thanasis, 10 March 2013 15:28)
==============================
I will thank you not to put us Serbs in the same category as greater this or that.
We never wanted a break up of Yugoslavia so that blows your theory of greater Serbia right out of the water.
We the Serbs, were attacked in our homes in Croatia and Bosnia because Croatians and Bosniaks wanted their own states without us in them or with us totally submitting to their former Nazi selves.
Please tell us what is your proof of us wanting greater anything. Did we attack the Croatians, Bosniaks and Albanians in order to expand anything?
I really find your words very offensive.
Do you even know how and who started the whole mess?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"The self-declared "republic of serbs" is the reason why Bosnia is a failed state. "
(KOSO, 9 March 2013 14:46)

I think you got something wrong: The RS is a constitutional entity of Bosnia-Herzegovina. There's only ONE self-declared Republic in the Balkans. It is called the 'Republic of Kosovo'. But for one thing you are right: This self-declared republic can surely be called a failed stated: One of the most corrupt 'states' in Europe, it is ruled by mafia clans and election faking politicians who turned this place into Europe's main drug hub.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Bosnia a functioning entity my behind. They're at the merci of RS, who have the power to veto anything and why pretend otherwise, RS is controlled by Belgrade's tentacles. It's better to lose the North totally than give Serbia ANY hand in Kosova's sovereignty

thanasis

pre 11 godina

This debate about functional and less functional states is really pointless. No functional state has emerged from the ruins of ex Jugoslavia and that's that. They are all disfunctional little protectorates, with corrupted elits or local mafias reigning over them, totally dependent and attached to foreign powers in order to survive (the elits not the states). It's really sad to see what has become of a great once country. I think my comment will be best understood and appreciated by the people who still live in the geographical aera which was once Jugoslavia. For the internet warlords of albanian or serbian diaspora who dream of greater this and greater that i don't give a damn.

Brian

pre 11 godina

The united states is so stupid with everything regarding Serbia and kosovo. Nothing about this in anyway undermines Kosovo independence in fact it endorses it. Seems like the us would jump at because serbia is completely recognizing Kosovo independence.

werner Deuster

pre 11 godina

Serbia might as well forget it all. It will not, and should not get what it wants for the serbs in the north. It showed absolutly no flexibility in the talks so far and will have to give up its so called platform if it wants to get anywhere. It is not making friends anywhere in the EU, and everybody has heard their BS often enough. Just sit on uncle Putins lap and cry a bit. You will see than what you lost out on, but than it will be too late.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

WW1, Europe needed the USA's assistance! WW2, yet again it took the assistance of the USA to bring peace to Europe!! It is time for the USA to have its say in European policy! The USA has earned the right to dictate policy in Europe! Kosova should put kosovar & America interest's first, before all others Period!

Robert1899

pre 11 godina

"The US doesn't want another Republika Srpska in kosovo". Now that is a pretty amusing comment since Republika Srpska is the functional half of Bosnia. I guess the US is content with a nonfunctional kosovo like the Bosnian Federation.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

“We want a functional solution, not another Republic of Srpska in Kosovo,” he noted.

If they want a functional solution, why does the US support the Pristina government? Nothing is 'functional' there but corruption and crime.

Seriously, compared to Kosovo, Bosnia is a high-level state.

Joe

pre 11 godina

"biological" Austrian = Serb born in Austria? If "biological" Greek, Italian, Spaniard, French or German, all these "biological" Europeans proved since WWII that they can't manage their affairs without the US leading them. Their inability to do something on their own without US leadership was especially visible in the nineties in the Balkans. The US had to step in and guide them. Also, as Rocky pointed out they had to be saved by the US after WWI and WWII.

biological austrian

pre 11 godina

These US-guys should be very noiseless, when it comes to european politics. they have their own problems. So stay away from europe and manage your own politics in the states.

It's also very funny, when a US-guy tries to tell us, that he doesn't want a republika srpska in kosovo. Remember - the propoposal for the creation of the republika srpska came from the US

Putin scary monster

pre 11 godina

(werner Deuster, 9 March 2013 13:44)

Yea lets blame Putin, for NATO not being able to deal with Yugoslav army back in 1999, and being forced to sign UN resolution 12 44. Only thing that prevents Kosovo from becoming fully recognized country

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

“We want a functional solution, not another Republic of Srpska in Kosovo,” he noted.

Ironically, RS - a creation by the US - IS a functional solution. Try looking at the rest of Bosnia to see how bad it is. Ah so that's it. The US doesn't want an RS in Kosovo upstaging its, ahem, "functioning democratic system" they worked so hard to believe is working in Pristina :)

If you think about it, RS was one of the best things America created in the last 20 years. No wonder they hate it because in comparison to everything else, it works like a Swiss watch :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yea lets blame Putin, for NATO not being able to deal with Yugoslav army back in 1999, and being forced to sign UN resolution 12 44. Only thing that prevents Kosovo from becoming fully recognized country
(Putin scary monster, 9 March 2013 15:02)

Well, just in case you've not heard the news from the last three years, Vuk fought tooth and nail to make it clear that Kosovo's Declaration of Independence was in accordance with UNSCR 1244 - so that chapter is closed thanks to Vuk's excellent work.

As for who was or was not forced to accept UNSCR 1244, I think we can refer to what Serbia stated in the UNSC chamber minutes before UNSCR 1244 was approved on June 20, 1999:

"By adopting the present text of the resolution, the Security Council would write out one of the darkest pages of its history. In doing so, not only would the Security Council be instrumental in a de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State, but would also set a negative precedent with far-reaching consequences for overall international relations"

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/OpenSes
at 29:20

Have a good day!

Reader

pre 11 godina

Again with the story that RS was a US creation? Denying the sacrifices and hard work of General Mladic and his friends? Tsk tsk tsk guys, I know history can be bended, but there must be a limit, otherwise you will offend a lot of people who fought on the ground for the survival and creation of RS. You know, the Serb "heroes" commanded by Mladic around Srebrenica in July 1995 for example.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

I thought that Republika Srpska was created by the Dayton agreement which gave birth to Bosnia Hercegovina as we know it today. That was supposed to be the masterpiece of US diplomacy which ended a horrible war. How come now it has become an example to be avoided? The Americans should be more sincere and confess that they would have preferred a Serb-free Bosnia but since that didn't work out (as it worked out in Croatia) they had to make a compromise and give Bosnia Serbs their own political entity.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Bosnia a functioning entity my behind. They're at the merci of RS, who have the power to veto anything and why pretend otherwise, RS is controlled by Belgrade's tentacles. It's better to lose the North totally than give Serbia ANY hand in Kosova's sovereignty

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"The self-declared "republic of serbs" is the reason why Bosnia is a failed state. "
(KOSO, 9 March 2013 14:46)

I think you got something wrong: The RS is a constitutional entity of Bosnia-Herzegovina. There's only ONE self-declared Republic in the Balkans. It is called the 'Republic of Kosovo'. But for one thing you are right: This self-declared republic can surely be called a failed stated: One of the most corrupt 'states' in Europe, it is ruled by mafia clans and election faking politicians who turned this place into Europe's main drug hub.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

This debate about functional and less functional states is really pointless. No functional state has emerged from the ruins of ex Jugoslavia and that's that. They are all disfunctional little protectorates, with corrupted elits or local mafias reigning over them, totally dependent and attached to foreign powers in order to survive (the elits not the states). It's really sad to see what has become of a great once country. I think my comment will be best understood and appreciated by the people who still live in the geographical aera which was once Jugoslavia. For the internet warlords of albanian or serbian diaspora who dream of greater this and greater that i don't give a damn.

Brian

pre 11 godina

The united states is so stupid with everything regarding Serbia and kosovo. Nothing about this in anyway undermines Kosovo independence in fact it endorses it. Seems like the us would jump at because serbia is completely recognizing Kosovo independence.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Who cares what you think US. Continue ruining your country and making your people and the rest of the world obese.

The most evil empire to date.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

The US should stay out of internal affairs of other countries. What right do they have to dictate what happens in other countries?
Does anyone stick their nose in their affairs?
Who do they think they are and which God gave them the right to dictate to the world?
One day their reign of terror will end.

Daddy

pre 11 godina

Mummy, do serbs wear feathers like Indians did?
(Joe, 9 March 2013 20:42)

Get your hand out of that turkey Joe. You know it makes you do funny things.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

For the internet warlords of albanian or serbian diaspora who dream of greater this and greater that i don't give a damn.
(thanasis, 10 March 2013 15:28)
==============================
I will thank you not to put us Serbs in the same category as greater this or that.
We never wanted a break up of Yugoslavia so that blows your theory of greater Serbia right out of the water.
We the Serbs, were attacked in our homes in Croatia and Bosnia because Croatians and Bosniaks wanted their own states without us in them or with us totally submitting to their former Nazi selves.
Please tell us what is your proof of us wanting greater anything. Did we attack the Croatians, Bosniaks and Albanians in order to expand anything?
I really find your words very offensive.
Do you even know how and who started the whole mess?