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Wednesday, 06.03.2013.

09:55

Venezuelan President Chavez passes away

Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez has passed away at the age of 58 after a two-year struggle with cancer. The authorities have declared a week of mourning.

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CG

pre 11 godina

(Joe, 7 March 2013 00:27)

GDP Russia (ppp) --> 2,5 trillion dollars
GDP German (ppp)--> 3,194 trillion dollars

Russian economy is growing much faster than the German economy,in 2018,according to the MMF it will surpass it!

China GDP (ppp)---> 12,4 trillion
USA GDP (ppp) ---> 15,3 trillion

Source :CIA factbook

Your days are numbered and there is not one damn thing you can do about it!

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

Leonidas, you s/b extremely grateful to the EU to keep you on life support machine. They were too nice to your country. They bailed you out. I guess they were able to do it because you don't have the size of Italy. If in the future Italy or an other big country gets in trouble the abyss is still possible.
(Joe, 6 March 2013 23:38

They saved their banks not us.Had they allowed Greece to default the contagion effect would've spread to Spain and Italy and Merkel would've had nightmares.Collapse,however,is not a matter of if but when.

Joe

pre 11 godina

CG, you seem to forget that by giving all your dreamy predictions about Russia or China your listeners are not uninformed factory workers drinking bier with you in a Belgrade suburb's bistro believing you but educated people in Western countries, who are well informed and know the facts. Just to mention one of your absurdities, "Russia will be the biggest European economy by 2018". That would mean in only 5 years!!!!. To confront you with the reality I give you some numbers for 2011. Russia's GDP 1.86 trillion US $, per capita GDP 17,000 dollars. The same numbers for Germany, the biggest European economy, are 3,57 trillion and 44,111. As a Serb you seem to have a terrible complex (hang-up) versus the West in general. I feel almost sorry for you. It must be hard to go through life this way.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Leonidas, you s/b extremely grateful to the EU to keep you on life support machine. They were too nice to your country. They bailed you out. I guess they were able to do it because you don't have the size of Italy. If in the future Italy or an other big country gets in trouble the abyss is still possible.

Malakas from Dohány street

pre 11 godina

Back on the article, had Castro allowed the US mafia to takeover Cuba and Chavez the Wall Street scumbags take over his country's resources both would've been glorified by Joe as fathers of Latin democracy.
(Leonidas, 6 March 2013 21:29)

Here in the street we are happy.We can now imrove our positions in Venezuela.WE have our own boy CApriles over there.And do not hurt our great writer Josif Malakas .Soon his new book about bad guys will be published.He will be celebrated all over the world and his cute little doggy Rocky will be very proud of him.

Boss, Hugo Boss

pre 11 godina

Joe, you've been easily drawn into the mix of confusion that is continually thrown around in the us. canada, which is a rather strong socialist country is doing just fine. the scandinavian nations are healthy too. both from a national and individual perspective. these are nations with a whole lot of "entitilement" programs, yet they've survived. the greed you speak of, started in the us purely capitalist system an infected the more pragmatic european system of a socially conscious capitalism (much like canada is).
regarding standard of living, there is no question or debate that the former giants have a better standard, but they also have the largest gap between wealth and impoverishment. european woes all stem from their greed in investing in american models. canada refused to particpate and it faired so well that it is the model of excellence now.
socialism is not the evil that americans have been told it is. it is the model that actually works without forcing bubble after bubble. if you consider america at its utter peak it was much more socialistic in mind. pdr noticed how important social conscious was and was unable to push through the new constitution.

sj

pre 11 godina

(cry me a river, 6 March 2013 14:53)

And the fact that the US wants to imprison Julian Assange for showing those scenes where US forces gunned down innocent civilians in Bagdad, I imagine this was done democratically? Speaking of controlling a country, how many political parties have won office in the US in the last 160 years that did not have the name democrat or republican? Or even better the so called impartial judiciary that appointed George Bush to the Presidency when Gore won the vote????

CG

pre 11 godina

Joachim don't speak in the name of the whole world. Maybe for you and many leftists it is the case. For us in the US the news brought a great satisfaction.
(Joe, 6 March 2013 20:59)

China is going to surpass the US in terms of GDP (size of economy) in 2015,in military might it will surpass it between 2020-25!
Russia is in 2018 going to be Europes biggest economy,totally controlling energy supplies,strongest military in Europe etc. and Belarus,Kazakstan and Ukraine will be incorporated into Russia in a few years!

Meanwhile US and EU are crashing in every field: demographic,social,economic,military and culturly...

That is the source of my satisfaction:

Blacks and Hispanics that want a nanny state in the US which will ruin it in the long run(20 years) will form the majority of the population !
This will leave Republicans with no chance but to totally reduce all other spending than entitlment spending to get those "minority turning into majorities" votes!

Consequence---> bankrupcy and total loss of American influence around the world!

And the nice thing: it cannot be stopped...

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

(Boss, Hugo Boss, 6 March 2013 19:47)

I think you're mistaken in your assertion that Joe and the Wall Street bankers he so admires are no socialists.They leverage customers deposits ten times and then gamble them away on derivative products(they don't even understand what they are) and when they loose their pants they call the taxpayers to bail them out (too big to fail).No wonder that 48 million Americans are on food stamps and more than 15 million lost their houses on foreclosures.It's socialism for Joe and the bankers and capitalism for the rest.

However,the present crisis in the financial markets which Joe doesn't understand is a clear indicator that the West hasn’t got any more aces under their sleeves to deal with it. Their policy of cheap credit fuelled economic expansion in Europe and the US during the boom years. And now that the credit steroid has been removed,there is no growth .Without growth everybody is screwed. Put in a nutshell significant parts of the world economy have run out of both money and credit. Countries can and do go bust. And there are several of those, like Greece, that are on financial life support machine. If one of them collapses there will be a domino effect which could get us into an abyss.

Back on the article, had Castro allowed the US mafia to takeover Cuba and Chavez the Wall Street scumbags take over his country's resources both would've been glorified by Joe as fathers of Latin democracy.

c9

pre 11 godina

Did a lot in his time and stood up against the evil in this world. I have also had the previlage of traveling to margarita island which is a part of Venezuela. Great people and the woman are unbelievable, i suggest this spot to all Serbs.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Joachim don't speak in the name of the whole world. Maybe for you and many leftists it is the case. For us in the US the news brought a great satisfaction.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Dear socialist Hugo, those G7 countries - or most of them - still do much better that those south-American socialist countries you seem to admire so much. Here in the US most poor people still live much better than even the "middle class" in those countries governed by people with Carlos, Pedro, Cristina, Hugo sounding names. AS for expensive medicine in the US: quality always has a prix. But don't worry for us: medical insurance or Medicare pays for it. "People losing all they had"...oh dear...an other cheap polemic. The reality: those people lost nothing because at the high of the speculation they bought there house with nothing down. They even profited from it because they lived in those houses free for 2-3 years before foreclosure. While they lived in most of them didn't pay the monthly mortgage payment. They were free loaders. As for those eggs well I myself put some in European real estate. Those are the real rotten ones in my investments. They will remain so for a long time because of the end of the welfare states in Europe. The "dolce vita" in Europe is over and I am not sorry for the Europeans at all. They started to be too arrogant. That changed greatly.

Boss, Hugo Boss

pre 11 godina

Joe, might you be willing to tell us how well us, eu economies are right now? can you tell us how many people in the "wealtiest" 7 nations on this planet are out of work, have unmanagable debt, have lost most everything they had, have dwindling prospects of positive futures?
how much has the income gap grown in the usa since the 70s? how come american medicince is the most expensive, and not best delivered model in the western world?
can you actually sit and defend the wealth raping actions of american capitalists while americans lives continue to circle down the drain?
you may not agree with the philosophy of socialism, but you should learn more about the philosophy of capitalism before you put all you soon to be rotting eggs in that basket.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Good news! Good riddance autocrat Chavez enemy of the US. One less enemy for us! The last few years were excellent in this respect. Best wishes for the Venezuelan people. Maybe they will enjoy more democracy now and their oil income will support their living standard instead of exporting revolution "a la cubane". This resulted in very high inflation, import of good part of the food consumed and total mismanagement of the economy like in most socialist countries. All these "great results" are naturally conveniently kept in dark by the commie (or pardon me "socialist" fans) of their - now - ex-idol.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

cry me a river

Funny how you talk about Chavez imprisoning political opponents. You albanians are experts not at imprisoning opponents but rather eliminating them (most often when unarmed), this included not just murdering men but their families too, women, children and the elderly. Dont be lecturing about democracy when your phoney state has to be the biggest mockery to democracy in all of Europe.

boss, hugo boss

pre 11 godina

comm,
i'm not sure you're not thinking of another country. perhaps usa?
venezuela sits at 5.9% unemployment. much lower than any g7 country. since 2004 venezuela's gdp went up nearly 400%. all of the top 20 most dangerous cities are in latin america, why single out venezuela, when mexico, and honduras have more dangerous cities and are allied with and follow "free" american political mode.
literacy rate shot up during chavez's time in office. as has life expectancy.

regarding his purchase of weapons, one might wonder how one would consider defeding one's nation from the advances of powerful nations like the usa, who consistantly have played aggressive shadow games with venezuala's chavez's government. perhaps they should have prepared with a table of fresh papusas for any attacking force, we know they'd get hungry.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

How little you all know about Chavez. He was a man who was planning to take control of Venezuela by violent means until his mentor showed him a different way.

Once in power, he jailed his opposition. He nationalized industry and took control of the judiciary. He had total control over his country.

He was nothing more than an autocrat who was willing to do anything to stay in power.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson

While I am no socialist, you could not be more wrong in what you have said. What I respect about this man is that he was a patriot, he kept his country under control and didn't allow the US a foothold which would have led to internal corruption in Venezuela. He also reduced poverty by around 50%, the man loved his people. Your comment doesn't surprise me coming from a europhile, you should accept that some leaders have dignity and refuse to be dictated to.

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

The world has lost a great leader who stood by his principles and ideas and refused to become the lapdog of the world'd corporate elite.His record in office speaks for itself.He nationalised his countries natural resources and helped those in poverty .Within ten years unemployment has halved, GDP per capita more than doubled, infant mortality reduced and poverty has fallen by two thirds.His memorable speech at the UN when he described Bush as the devil confirmed that Chavez always had balls and spoke with his heart.

RIP President Chavez.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"He will also be remembered as one of the most dynamic world leaders."

Not only. He will be remembered as a person who ruined the Venezuelan economy and raised unemployment, who turned Venezuela into one of the most corrupt countries in the world, full of patronage, the capital into the one with the most murders per capita, and besides spending billions for public welfare, he spent at the same time other billions of revenues from oil export for buying weapons.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 11 godina

It's Latin America and in Latin America there only ever seem to have been two types of government: far Left and far Right. Of the two, the regimes with the bloodiest histories and most dire human rights records have been on the Right, and thus backed by short-sighted administrations in the US. Reagen's interventions in clandestine operations in Nicaragua and El Salvador led to the deaths of tens of thousands. The overthrow of the democratically elected Salvador Allende by the US-backed Pinochet also led to tens of thousands of 'disappearances', murders and institutionalized torture.

All for the benefit of the wealthy, the powerful and US 'national security interests.'

Like Castro, Chavez had been a thorn in the US side, a man who refused to be bought or bullied.

His legacy will outshine any of his contemporaries on the Right in South America.

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

The world has lost a great leader who stood by his principles and ideas and refused to become the lapdog of the world'd corporate elite.His record in office speaks for itself.He nationalised his countries natural resources and helped those in poverty .Within ten years unemployment has halved, GDP per capita more than doubled, infant mortality reduced and poverty has fallen by two thirds.His memorable speech at the UN when he described Bush as the devil confirmed that Chavez always had balls and spoke with his heart.

RIP President Chavez.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 11 godina

It's Latin America and in Latin America there only ever seem to have been two types of government: far Left and far Right. Of the two, the regimes with the bloodiest histories and most dire human rights records have been on the Right, and thus backed by short-sighted administrations in the US. Reagen's interventions in clandestine operations in Nicaragua and El Salvador led to the deaths of tens of thousands. The overthrow of the democratically elected Salvador Allende by the US-backed Pinochet also led to tens of thousands of 'disappearances', murders and institutionalized torture.

All for the benefit of the wealthy, the powerful and US 'national security interests.'

Like Castro, Chavez had been a thorn in the US side, a man who refused to be bought or bullied.

His legacy will outshine any of his contemporaries on the Right in South America.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson

While I am no socialist, you could not be more wrong in what you have said. What I respect about this man is that he was a patriot, he kept his country under control and didn't allow the US a foothold which would have led to internal corruption in Venezuela. He also reduced poverty by around 50%, the man loved his people. Your comment doesn't surprise me coming from a europhile, you should accept that some leaders have dignity and refuse to be dictated to.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

cry me a river

Funny how you talk about Chavez imprisoning political opponents. You albanians are experts not at imprisoning opponents but rather eliminating them (most often when unarmed), this included not just murdering men but their families too, women, children and the elderly. Dont be lecturing about democracy when your phoney state has to be the biggest mockery to democracy in all of Europe.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"He will also be remembered as one of the most dynamic world leaders."

Not only. He will be remembered as a person who ruined the Venezuelan economy and raised unemployment, who turned Venezuela into one of the most corrupt countries in the world, full of patronage, the capital into the one with the most murders per capita, and besides spending billions for public welfare, he spent at the same time other billions of revenues from oil export for buying weapons.

boss, hugo boss

pre 11 godina

comm,
i'm not sure you're not thinking of another country. perhaps usa?
venezuela sits at 5.9% unemployment. much lower than any g7 country. since 2004 venezuela's gdp went up nearly 400%. all of the top 20 most dangerous cities are in latin america, why single out venezuela, when mexico, and honduras have more dangerous cities and are allied with and follow "free" american political mode.
literacy rate shot up during chavez's time in office. as has life expectancy.

regarding his purchase of weapons, one might wonder how one would consider defeding one's nation from the advances of powerful nations like the usa, who consistantly have played aggressive shadow games with venezuala's chavez's government. perhaps they should have prepared with a table of fresh papusas for any attacking force, we know they'd get hungry.

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

(Boss, Hugo Boss, 6 March 2013 19:47)

I think you're mistaken in your assertion that Joe and the Wall Street bankers he so admires are no socialists.They leverage customers deposits ten times and then gamble them away on derivative products(they don't even understand what they are) and when they loose their pants they call the taxpayers to bail them out (too big to fail).No wonder that 48 million Americans are on food stamps and more than 15 million lost their houses on foreclosures.It's socialism for Joe and the bankers and capitalism for the rest.

However,the present crisis in the financial markets which Joe doesn't understand is a clear indicator that the West hasn’t got any more aces under their sleeves to deal with it. Their policy of cheap credit fuelled economic expansion in Europe and the US during the boom years. And now that the credit steroid has been removed,there is no growth .Without growth everybody is screwed. Put in a nutshell significant parts of the world economy have run out of both money and credit. Countries can and do go bust. And there are several of those, like Greece, that are on financial life support machine. If one of them collapses there will be a domino effect which could get us into an abyss.

Back on the article, had Castro allowed the US mafia to takeover Cuba and Chavez the Wall Street scumbags take over his country's resources both would've been glorified by Joe as fathers of Latin democracy.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

How little you all know about Chavez. He was a man who was planning to take control of Venezuela by violent means until his mentor showed him a different way.

Once in power, he jailed his opposition. He nationalized industry and took control of the judiciary. He had total control over his country.

He was nothing more than an autocrat who was willing to do anything to stay in power.

Boss, Hugo Boss

pre 11 godina

Joe, might you be willing to tell us how well us, eu economies are right now? can you tell us how many people in the "wealtiest" 7 nations on this planet are out of work, have unmanagable debt, have lost most everything they had, have dwindling prospects of positive futures?
how much has the income gap grown in the usa since the 70s? how come american medicince is the most expensive, and not best delivered model in the western world?
can you actually sit and defend the wealth raping actions of american capitalists while americans lives continue to circle down the drain?
you may not agree with the philosophy of socialism, but you should learn more about the philosophy of capitalism before you put all you soon to be rotting eggs in that basket.

c9

pre 11 godina

Did a lot in his time and stood up against the evil in this world. I have also had the previlage of traveling to margarita island which is a part of Venezuela. Great people and the woman are unbelievable, i suggest this spot to all Serbs.

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

Leonidas, you s/b extremely grateful to the EU to keep you on life support machine. They were too nice to your country. They bailed you out. I guess they were able to do it because you don't have the size of Italy. If in the future Italy or an other big country gets in trouble the abyss is still possible.
(Joe, 6 March 2013 23:38

They saved their banks not us.Had they allowed Greece to default the contagion effect would've spread to Spain and Italy and Merkel would've had nightmares.Collapse,however,is not a matter of if but when.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Joachim don't speak in the name of the whole world. Maybe for you and many leftists it is the case. For us in the US the news brought a great satisfaction.

sj

pre 11 godina

(cry me a river, 6 March 2013 14:53)

And the fact that the US wants to imprison Julian Assange for showing those scenes where US forces gunned down innocent civilians in Bagdad, I imagine this was done democratically? Speaking of controlling a country, how many political parties have won office in the US in the last 160 years that did not have the name democrat or republican? Or even better the so called impartial judiciary that appointed George Bush to the Presidency when Gore won the vote????

CG

pre 11 godina

(Joe, 7 March 2013 00:27)

GDP Russia (ppp) --> 2,5 trillion dollars
GDP German (ppp)--> 3,194 trillion dollars

Russian economy is growing much faster than the German economy,in 2018,according to the MMF it will surpass it!

China GDP (ppp)---> 12,4 trillion
USA GDP (ppp) ---> 15,3 trillion

Source :CIA factbook

Your days are numbered and there is not one damn thing you can do about it!

Joe

pre 11 godina

Dear socialist Hugo, those G7 countries - or most of them - still do much better that those south-American socialist countries you seem to admire so much. Here in the US most poor people still live much better than even the "middle class" in those countries governed by people with Carlos, Pedro, Cristina, Hugo sounding names. AS for expensive medicine in the US: quality always has a prix. But don't worry for us: medical insurance or Medicare pays for it. "People losing all they had"...oh dear...an other cheap polemic. The reality: those people lost nothing because at the high of the speculation they bought there house with nothing down. They even profited from it because they lived in those houses free for 2-3 years before foreclosure. While they lived in most of them didn't pay the monthly mortgage payment. They were free loaders. As for those eggs well I myself put some in European real estate. Those are the real rotten ones in my investments. They will remain so for a long time because of the end of the welfare states in Europe. The "dolce vita" in Europe is over and I am not sorry for the Europeans at all. They started to be too arrogant. That changed greatly.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Good news! Good riddance autocrat Chavez enemy of the US. One less enemy for us! The last few years were excellent in this respect. Best wishes for the Venezuelan people. Maybe they will enjoy more democracy now and their oil income will support their living standard instead of exporting revolution "a la cubane". This resulted in very high inflation, import of good part of the food consumed and total mismanagement of the economy like in most socialist countries. All these "great results" are naturally conveniently kept in dark by the commie (or pardon me "socialist" fans) of their - now - ex-idol.

Boss, Hugo Boss

pre 11 godina

Joe, you've been easily drawn into the mix of confusion that is continually thrown around in the us. canada, which is a rather strong socialist country is doing just fine. the scandinavian nations are healthy too. both from a national and individual perspective. these are nations with a whole lot of "entitilement" programs, yet they've survived. the greed you speak of, started in the us purely capitalist system an infected the more pragmatic european system of a socially conscious capitalism (much like canada is).
regarding standard of living, there is no question or debate that the former giants have a better standard, but they also have the largest gap between wealth and impoverishment. european woes all stem from their greed in investing in american models. canada refused to particpate and it faired so well that it is the model of excellence now.
socialism is not the evil that americans have been told it is. it is the model that actually works without forcing bubble after bubble. if you consider america at its utter peak it was much more socialistic in mind. pdr noticed how important social conscious was and was unable to push through the new constitution.

CG

pre 11 godina

Joachim don't speak in the name of the whole world. Maybe for you and many leftists it is the case. For us in the US the news brought a great satisfaction.
(Joe, 6 March 2013 20:59)

China is going to surpass the US in terms of GDP (size of economy) in 2015,in military might it will surpass it between 2020-25!
Russia is in 2018 going to be Europes biggest economy,totally controlling energy supplies,strongest military in Europe etc. and Belarus,Kazakstan and Ukraine will be incorporated into Russia in a few years!

Meanwhile US and EU are crashing in every field: demographic,social,economic,military and culturly...

That is the source of my satisfaction:

Blacks and Hispanics that want a nanny state in the US which will ruin it in the long run(20 years) will form the majority of the population !
This will leave Republicans with no chance but to totally reduce all other spending than entitlment spending to get those "minority turning into majorities" votes!

Consequence---> bankrupcy and total loss of American influence around the world!

And the nice thing: it cannot be stopped...

Malakas from Dohány street

pre 11 godina

Back on the article, had Castro allowed the US mafia to takeover Cuba and Chavez the Wall Street scumbags take over his country's resources both would've been glorified by Joe as fathers of Latin democracy.
(Leonidas, 6 March 2013 21:29)

Here in the street we are happy.We can now imrove our positions in Venezuela.WE have our own boy CApriles over there.And do not hurt our great writer Josif Malakas .Soon his new book about bad guys will be published.He will be celebrated all over the world and his cute little doggy Rocky will be very proud of him.

Joe

pre 11 godina

CG, you seem to forget that by giving all your dreamy predictions about Russia or China your listeners are not uninformed factory workers drinking bier with you in a Belgrade suburb's bistro believing you but educated people in Western countries, who are well informed and know the facts. Just to mention one of your absurdities, "Russia will be the biggest European economy by 2018". That would mean in only 5 years!!!!. To confront you with the reality I give you some numbers for 2011. Russia's GDP 1.86 trillion US $, per capita GDP 17,000 dollars. The same numbers for Germany, the biggest European economy, are 3,57 trillion and 44,111. As a Serb you seem to have a terrible complex (hang-up) versus the West in general. I feel almost sorry for you. It must be hard to go through life this way.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Leonidas, you s/b extremely grateful to the EU to keep you on life support machine. They were too nice to your country. They bailed you out. I guess they were able to do it because you don't have the size of Italy. If in the future Italy or an other big country gets in trouble the abyss is still possible.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"He will also be remembered as one of the most dynamic world leaders."

Not only. He will be remembered as a person who ruined the Venezuelan economy and raised unemployment, who turned Venezuela into one of the most corrupt countries in the world, full of patronage, the capital into the one with the most murders per capita, and besides spending billions for public welfare, he spent at the same time other billions of revenues from oil export for buying weapons.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

How little you all know about Chavez. He was a man who was planning to take control of Venezuela by violent means until his mentor showed him a different way.

Once in power, he jailed his opposition. He nationalized industry and took control of the judiciary. He had total control over his country.

He was nothing more than an autocrat who was willing to do anything to stay in power.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Good news! Good riddance autocrat Chavez enemy of the US. One less enemy for us! The last few years were excellent in this respect. Best wishes for the Venezuelan people. Maybe they will enjoy more democracy now and their oil income will support their living standard instead of exporting revolution "a la cubane". This resulted in very high inflation, import of good part of the food consumed and total mismanagement of the economy like in most socialist countries. All these "great results" are naturally conveniently kept in dark by the commie (or pardon me "socialist" fans) of their - now - ex-idol.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Joachim don't speak in the name of the whole world. Maybe for you and many leftists it is the case. For us in the US the news brought a great satisfaction.

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

The world has lost a great leader who stood by his principles and ideas and refused to become the lapdog of the world'd corporate elite.His record in office speaks for itself.He nationalised his countries natural resources and helped those in poverty .Within ten years unemployment has halved, GDP per capita more than doubled, infant mortality reduced and poverty has fallen by two thirds.His memorable speech at the UN when he described Bush as the devil confirmed that Chavez always had balls and spoke with his heart.

RIP President Chavez.

Joe

pre 11 godina

Dear socialist Hugo, those G7 countries - or most of them - still do much better that those south-American socialist countries you seem to admire so much. Here in the US most poor people still live much better than even the "middle class" in those countries governed by people with Carlos, Pedro, Cristina, Hugo sounding names. AS for expensive medicine in the US: quality always has a prix. But don't worry for us: medical insurance or Medicare pays for it. "People losing all they had"...oh dear...an other cheap polemic. The reality: those people lost nothing because at the high of the speculation they bought there house with nothing down. They even profited from it because they lived in those houses free for 2-3 years before foreclosure. While they lived in most of them didn't pay the monthly mortgage payment. They were free loaders. As for those eggs well I myself put some in European real estate. Those are the real rotten ones in my investments. They will remain so for a long time because of the end of the welfare states in Europe. The "dolce vita" in Europe is over and I am not sorry for the Europeans at all. They started to be too arrogant. That changed greatly.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 11 godina

It's Latin America and in Latin America there only ever seem to have been two types of government: far Left and far Right. Of the two, the regimes with the bloodiest histories and most dire human rights records have been on the Right, and thus backed by short-sighted administrations in the US. Reagen's interventions in clandestine operations in Nicaragua and El Salvador led to the deaths of tens of thousands. The overthrow of the democratically elected Salvador Allende by the US-backed Pinochet also led to tens of thousands of 'disappearances', murders and institutionalized torture.

All for the benefit of the wealthy, the powerful and US 'national security interests.'

Like Castro, Chavez had been a thorn in the US side, a man who refused to be bought or bullied.

His legacy will outshine any of his contemporaries on the Right in South America.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

cry me a river

Funny how you talk about Chavez imprisoning political opponents. You albanians are experts not at imprisoning opponents but rather eliminating them (most often when unarmed), this included not just murdering men but their families too, women, children and the elderly. Dont be lecturing about democracy when your phoney state has to be the biggest mockery to democracy in all of Europe.

Joe

pre 11 godina

CG, you seem to forget that by giving all your dreamy predictions about Russia or China your listeners are not uninformed factory workers drinking bier with you in a Belgrade suburb's bistro believing you but educated people in Western countries, who are well informed and know the facts. Just to mention one of your absurdities, "Russia will be the biggest European economy by 2018". That would mean in only 5 years!!!!. To confront you with the reality I give you some numbers for 2011. Russia's GDP 1.86 trillion US $, per capita GDP 17,000 dollars. The same numbers for Germany, the biggest European economy, are 3,57 trillion and 44,111. As a Serb you seem to have a terrible complex (hang-up) versus the West in general. I feel almost sorry for you. It must be hard to go through life this way.

boss, hugo boss

pre 11 godina

comm,
i'm not sure you're not thinking of another country. perhaps usa?
venezuela sits at 5.9% unemployment. much lower than any g7 country. since 2004 venezuela's gdp went up nearly 400%. all of the top 20 most dangerous cities are in latin america, why single out venezuela, when mexico, and honduras have more dangerous cities and are allied with and follow "free" american political mode.
literacy rate shot up during chavez's time in office. as has life expectancy.

regarding his purchase of weapons, one might wonder how one would consider defeding one's nation from the advances of powerful nations like the usa, who consistantly have played aggressive shadow games with venezuala's chavez's government. perhaps they should have prepared with a table of fresh papusas for any attacking force, we know they'd get hungry.

Boss, Hugo Boss

pre 11 godina

Joe, might you be willing to tell us how well us, eu economies are right now? can you tell us how many people in the "wealtiest" 7 nations on this planet are out of work, have unmanagable debt, have lost most everything they had, have dwindling prospects of positive futures?
how much has the income gap grown in the usa since the 70s? how come american medicince is the most expensive, and not best delivered model in the western world?
can you actually sit and defend the wealth raping actions of american capitalists while americans lives continue to circle down the drain?
you may not agree with the philosophy of socialism, but you should learn more about the philosophy of capitalism before you put all you soon to be rotting eggs in that basket.

SCP UK

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson

While I am no socialist, you could not be more wrong in what you have said. What I respect about this man is that he was a patriot, he kept his country under control and didn't allow the US a foothold which would have led to internal corruption in Venezuela. He also reduced poverty by around 50%, the man loved his people. Your comment doesn't surprise me coming from a europhile, you should accept that some leaders have dignity and refuse to be dictated to.

c9

pre 11 godina

Did a lot in his time and stood up against the evil in this world. I have also had the previlage of traveling to margarita island which is a part of Venezuela. Great people and the woman are unbelievable, i suggest this spot to all Serbs.

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

(Boss, Hugo Boss, 6 March 2013 19:47)

I think you're mistaken in your assertion that Joe and the Wall Street bankers he so admires are no socialists.They leverage customers deposits ten times and then gamble them away on derivative products(they don't even understand what they are) and when they loose their pants they call the taxpayers to bail them out (too big to fail).No wonder that 48 million Americans are on food stamps and more than 15 million lost their houses on foreclosures.It's socialism for Joe and the bankers and capitalism for the rest.

However,the present crisis in the financial markets which Joe doesn't understand is a clear indicator that the West hasn’t got any more aces under their sleeves to deal with it. Their policy of cheap credit fuelled economic expansion in Europe and the US during the boom years. And now that the credit steroid has been removed,there is no growth .Without growth everybody is screwed. Put in a nutshell significant parts of the world economy have run out of both money and credit. Countries can and do go bust. And there are several of those, like Greece, that are on financial life support machine. If one of them collapses there will be a domino effect which could get us into an abyss.

Back on the article, had Castro allowed the US mafia to takeover Cuba and Chavez the Wall Street scumbags take over his country's resources both would've been glorified by Joe as fathers of Latin democracy.

Boss, Hugo Boss

pre 11 godina

Joe, you've been easily drawn into the mix of confusion that is continually thrown around in the us. canada, which is a rather strong socialist country is doing just fine. the scandinavian nations are healthy too. both from a national and individual perspective. these are nations with a whole lot of "entitilement" programs, yet they've survived. the greed you speak of, started in the us purely capitalist system an infected the more pragmatic european system of a socially conscious capitalism (much like canada is).
regarding standard of living, there is no question or debate that the former giants have a better standard, but they also have the largest gap between wealth and impoverishment. european woes all stem from their greed in investing in american models. canada refused to particpate and it faired so well that it is the model of excellence now.
socialism is not the evil that americans have been told it is. it is the model that actually works without forcing bubble after bubble. if you consider america at its utter peak it was much more socialistic in mind. pdr noticed how important social conscious was and was unable to push through the new constitution.

sj

pre 11 godina

(cry me a river, 6 March 2013 14:53)

And the fact that the US wants to imprison Julian Assange for showing those scenes where US forces gunned down innocent civilians in Bagdad, I imagine this was done democratically? Speaking of controlling a country, how many political parties have won office in the US in the last 160 years that did not have the name democrat or republican? Or even better the so called impartial judiciary that appointed George Bush to the Presidency when Gore won the vote????

CG

pre 11 godina

Joachim don't speak in the name of the whole world. Maybe for you and many leftists it is the case. For us in the US the news brought a great satisfaction.
(Joe, 6 March 2013 20:59)

China is going to surpass the US in terms of GDP (size of economy) in 2015,in military might it will surpass it between 2020-25!
Russia is in 2018 going to be Europes biggest economy,totally controlling energy supplies,strongest military in Europe etc. and Belarus,Kazakstan and Ukraine will be incorporated into Russia in a few years!

Meanwhile US and EU are crashing in every field: demographic,social,economic,military and culturly...

That is the source of my satisfaction:

Blacks and Hispanics that want a nanny state in the US which will ruin it in the long run(20 years) will form the majority of the population !
This will leave Republicans with no chance but to totally reduce all other spending than entitlment spending to get those "minority turning into majorities" votes!

Consequence---> bankrupcy and total loss of American influence around the world!

And the nice thing: it cannot be stopped...

Joe

pre 11 godina

Leonidas, you s/b extremely grateful to the EU to keep you on life support machine. They were too nice to your country. They bailed you out. I guess they were able to do it because you don't have the size of Italy. If in the future Italy or an other big country gets in trouble the abyss is still possible.

Malakas from Dohány street

pre 11 godina

Back on the article, had Castro allowed the US mafia to takeover Cuba and Chavez the Wall Street scumbags take over his country's resources both would've been glorified by Joe as fathers of Latin democracy.
(Leonidas, 6 March 2013 21:29)

Here in the street we are happy.We can now imrove our positions in Venezuela.WE have our own boy CApriles over there.And do not hurt our great writer Josif Malakas .Soon his new book about bad guys will be published.He will be celebrated all over the world and his cute little doggy Rocky will be very proud of him.

CG

pre 11 godina

(Joe, 7 March 2013 00:27)

GDP Russia (ppp) --> 2,5 trillion dollars
GDP German (ppp)--> 3,194 trillion dollars

Russian economy is growing much faster than the German economy,in 2018,according to the MMF it will surpass it!

China GDP (ppp)---> 12,4 trillion
USA GDP (ppp) ---> 15,3 trillion

Source :CIA factbook

Your days are numbered and there is not one damn thing you can do about it!

Leonidas

pre 11 godina

Leonidas, you s/b extremely grateful to the EU to keep you on life support machine. They were too nice to your country. They bailed you out. I guess they were able to do it because you don't have the size of Italy. If in the future Italy or an other big country gets in trouble the abyss is still possible.
(Joe, 6 March 2013 23:38

They saved their banks not us.Had they allowed Greece to default the contagion effect would've spread to Spain and Italy and Merkel would've had nightmares.Collapse,however,is not a matter of if but when.