Serbia will stick by its concept of Serb municipalities and remain firmly committed to working out a compromise in the dialogue with Priština authorities.
The UN resolution 1244 means that albanians and NATO did not win the war completely.
And by the the way they won the air.
What if NATO had to send their soldiers everybody would be still be fighting today.
One question to people commenting. Nationalist overtures aside, if Belgrade stops financing Serbian structures in north Kosovo what choice will people there have but to integrate into Pristina's institutions?
(Observer, 4 March 2013 07:17)
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As the government has repeated, the structures remain until an agreement is made. The agreement must include executive powers for Serbian enclaves. The theme of these agreements are -> We agree to fall under Pristina except the Serbs are independent of Pristina. From Serbia's point of view, it is "more than autonomy, less than independence". From Pristina's point of view it is "lets pretend we are independent."
One question to people commenting. Nationalist overtures aside, if Belgrade stops financing Serbian structures in north Kosovo what choice will people there have but to integrate into Pristina's institutions?
"We won the war, serbia needs to accept that"
@(KOSOVA, 3 March 2013 14:23)
With out military Albo won war. Wich one?
With Greeks Albo loose all military, not recovering from 1042yr.
Well Rocky, I appreciate you agreeing with me but, you could have saved us the dramatics. In fact, could all the people in the Balkans please cut the drama queen performances? We are all an emotional group of people, so similar, yet we fight for the small differences that exist between us - language, religion, a few traditions, but pretty much everyone in the Balkans is the same. Too bad we have these hatreds, we could have achieved great things together. OK, let's get back to hating. Yes, I so look forward to some resolution in Kosovo, not for me or the kooks on this sight, but for the people that actually live there. Rocky would invade KiM in a heartbeat for the Albanian cause, but that is not what the problem is in Kosovo. It's about finding a peaceful and lasting solution for the people that live there, and all the ethnicities of the entire region. You a tough guy, Rocky, how come?
You know why? The West loves to hear that word...but for Serbia is a pure propaganda. Serbia wants to break Kosovo from inside out. In other words it wants Kosovo to fail in functioning....that would mean ultimately partition.
At the end of the day...if you read Serbian so-called platform, Serbia is not committed to recognise formally Kosovo independence...so the Serbian "compromise" is a win win situation for Serbia. Conclusively NOT a compromise.
My God, what's going on here. "All Serbs think KiM is lost", "NATO won the war" and Rocky pumping himself up on steroids. Yeah, yeah, we have "lost" KiM a few times in history and we have always regained it.
What our politicians are doing now is to negotiate on certain aspects to gain access to €1.5 billion in EU accession funds because we are being pressured into the EU. Think back during WWII under occupation of Nazis. Sure, many people were negotiating with them and many thought we had lost KiM then also.
We negotiate so Pristina claims structures in KiM are under their control while the Serbs are essentially free of Pristina. The Serbs in KiM, especially those in the north are not going to accept Albanian rule, simple as that and regardless of what Belgrade negotiates.
BTW, if NATO won the war, we wouldn't be here negotiating the future of KiM 13 years later. Anyway, Albanian nationalism will stir trouble in the Balkans once again and the next and final time, it will be all neighbours dealing with it. It is not going to end well for them.
NATO won the war after you provoked Milosevic and suffered dearly. You need to accept this.
(Navi, 3 March 2013 19:02)
You got Vojvodina after provoking Austria in WWI and Russia gave you Vojvodian as a reward you must admit this as well. You lost the war in 1999 K-Albanians alied with NATO won deal with it.
If the west doesn't give the north Kosovo to Serbia i don't see any reason for Serbia to continue negotiations with the EU,but i am optimistic that the North Kosovo will win the autonomy,artificial province Kosovo should not function as a state,the times now are different the U.S is close to collapse,the main western powers like France,UK and others are in deep recession,while Russia and China are becoming stronger than ever,btw i don't believe that Serbia can have major benefits from the EU integration as others Balkan countries have had.If we see in some aspects is not even in Serbian interests to join the EU or NATO,country like Croatia is an Serbian rival,the problem of Bosnia is not resolved yet RS is not independent and of course Kosovo,the west should not give just north Kosovo to Serbia but the whole Kosovo or will have RUSSIA here.
The new name for the status talks is the "Serbian Concession Sessions"! Grab yourself a bucket of popcorn and watch this Oscar award winning thriller unfold.....
There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
(winston, 3 March 2013 15:03)
Surprised to hear a comment from you that makes some sense, and is realistic! Of course, a majority of the people of Serbia realize Kosova is lost, and want nothing to do with it, in their eyes, Kosova was lost a long time ago even before the war in 1999! With the exception of the few radical vampires of Serbia, still in power. 1 that comes to mind, Kostunica. Dacic & Nikolic also, but I believe they have smelled the coffee, & have come to a more realistic conclusion! They have been made aware of, and understand & realize that in-order to restablish a Serbian occupation of Kosova again, would require another major armed conflict against not only the Albanians of Kosova, but against the entire Albanian race! And I mean major! Albanians the world over, would flock in masses back to their ancient homelands without the slightest hesitation! You see, many think and believe that just because some are in the possession of bigger & better army's and weaponry, they can somehow intimidate the Albanian people? I'll tell you right now, that notion couldn't be farther from the truth! Actually, the more powerful the oppressor, the more the Albanian soul searches for a way to bring his oppressor to its knees & bring about its demise! It may not be instant, but eventually they will bring a end to their oppressors! Just take a look at history! And we are still right here, in the heart of the Balkans!
Serbs are now very much in favor of Serbia not having anything to do with Kosovo Whig is why the radical party is dead and the leaders are dacic and nikolic and the previous leader was tadic. There is no nationalism anymore anywhere. Serbia is being wrong taking the place of Kosovo Serbs in negotiating with pristina. This is why vucic compared this situation to the Bosnian Serb situation.
This meeting can be only cheap propaganda for the Serbs on the streets or better in the villages. In no country ONE day before important talks the leaders would meet for such an meeting, because it is too late for any real work which has to be done normally in government organs after such a meeting...if the meeting took place possibly only with beer and rakia:)
There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
(winston, 3 March 2013 15:03)
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LOL! You've been hanging around your DS buddies a bit too long.
Albanian Farmer, the Serbian people have virtually no power in Serbia, trust me. They have their opinions, but little sway. The entire Kosovo situation is in the hands of the Western powers, and Serbian politicians are using KiM as a bargaining chip at this point. I do not how many Serbs you talk to, but I don't think you have a clear view of Serbian public opinion. There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
No RS in Kosova, never! We gave too many lives (10,000) to free Kosova. We cannot allow anyone to steal for what we fought for. We won the war, serbia needs to accept that
He recalled that in the previous round of talks they had reached an agreement in principle under which the problem of parallel institutions in Kosovo could be solved by establishing a community of Serb municipalities."
This is the great problem of the Serbs, if Dacic is proclaiming an "agreement in principle" without having any agreement about the content at all. Tomorrow Dacic will sign something which is totally unclear and with the words that "the technical details will be discussed later by experts". Serbia is so focusedon a total un-important day like April 16 that it will do everything what the EU/Prishtina wants. Prishtina is wise only to wait for Belgrades capitulation step by step. Only Belgrade has problems to tell the people that any defeat is a "victory". It is a very dangerous game.
He recalled that in the previous round of talks they had reached an agreement in principle under which the problem of parallel institutions in Kosovo could be solved by establishing a community of Serb municipalities."
This is the great problem of the Serbs, if Dacic is proclaiming an "agreement in principle" without having any agreement about the content at all. Tomorrow Dacic will sign something which is totally unclear and with the words that "the technical details will be discussed later by experts". Serbia is so focusedon a total un-important day like April 16 that it will do everything what the EU/Prishtina wants. Prishtina is wise only to wait for Belgrades capitulation step by step. Only Belgrade has problems to tell the people that any defeat is a "victory". It is a very dangerous game.
No RS in Kosova, never! We gave too many lives (10,000) to free Kosova. We cannot allow anyone to steal for what we fought for. We won the war, serbia needs to accept that
Albanian Farmer, the Serbian people have virtually no power in Serbia, trust me. They have their opinions, but little sway. The entire Kosovo situation is in the hands of the Western powers, and Serbian politicians are using KiM as a bargaining chip at this point. I do not how many Serbs you talk to, but I don't think you have a clear view of Serbian public opinion. There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
(winston, 3 March 2013 15:03)
Surprised to hear a comment from you that makes some sense, and is realistic! Of course, a majority of the people of Serbia realize Kosova is lost, and want nothing to do with it, in their eyes, Kosova was lost a long time ago even before the war in 1999! With the exception of the few radical vampires of Serbia, still in power. 1 that comes to mind, Kostunica. Dacic & Nikolic also, but I believe they have smelled the coffee, & have come to a more realistic conclusion! They have been made aware of, and understand & realize that in-order to restablish a Serbian occupation of Kosova again, would require another major armed conflict against not only the Albanians of Kosova, but against the entire Albanian race! And I mean major! Albanians the world over, would flock in masses back to their ancient homelands without the slightest hesitation! You see, many think and believe that just because some are in the possession of bigger & better army's and weaponry, they can somehow intimidate the Albanian people? I'll tell you right now, that notion couldn't be farther from the truth! Actually, the more powerful the oppressor, the more the Albanian soul searches for a way to bring his oppressor to its knees & bring about its demise! It may not be instant, but eventually they will bring a end to their oppressors! Just take a look at history! And we are still right here, in the heart of the Balkans!
If the west doesn't give the north Kosovo to Serbia i don't see any reason for Serbia to continue negotiations with the EU,but i am optimistic that the North Kosovo will win the autonomy,artificial province Kosovo should not function as a state,the times now are different the U.S is close to collapse,the main western powers like France,UK and others are in deep recession,while Russia and China are becoming stronger than ever,btw i don't believe that Serbia can have major benefits from the EU integration as others Balkan countries have had.If we see in some aspects is not even in Serbian interests to join the EU or NATO,country like Croatia is an Serbian rival,the problem of Bosnia is not resolved yet RS is not independent and of course Kosovo,the west should not give just north Kosovo to Serbia but the whole Kosovo or will have RUSSIA here.
NATO won the war after you provoked Milosevic and suffered dearly. You need to accept this.
(Navi, 3 March 2013 19:02)
You got Vojvodina after provoking Austria in WWI and Russia gave you Vojvodian as a reward you must admit this as well. You lost the war in 1999 K-Albanians alied with NATO won deal with it.
There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
(winston, 3 March 2013 15:03)
--
LOL! You've been hanging around your DS buddies a bit too long.
The new name for the status talks is the "Serbian Concession Sessions"! Grab yourself a bucket of popcorn and watch this Oscar award winning thriller unfold.....
Serbs are now very much in favor of Serbia not having anything to do with Kosovo Whig is why the radical party is dead and the leaders are dacic and nikolic and the previous leader was tadic. There is no nationalism anymore anywhere. Serbia is being wrong taking the place of Kosovo Serbs in negotiating with pristina. This is why vucic compared this situation to the Bosnian Serb situation.
My God, what's going on here. "All Serbs think KiM is lost", "NATO won the war" and Rocky pumping himself up on steroids. Yeah, yeah, we have "lost" KiM a few times in history and we have always regained it.
What our politicians are doing now is to negotiate on certain aspects to gain access to €1.5 billion in EU accession funds because we are being pressured into the EU. Think back during WWII under occupation of Nazis. Sure, many people were negotiating with them and many thought we had lost KiM then also.
We negotiate so Pristina claims structures in KiM are under their control while the Serbs are essentially free of Pristina. The Serbs in KiM, especially those in the north are not going to accept Albanian rule, simple as that and regardless of what Belgrade negotiates.
BTW, if NATO won the war, we wouldn't be here negotiating the future of KiM 13 years later. Anyway, Albanian nationalism will stir trouble in the Balkans once again and the next and final time, it will be all neighbours dealing with it. It is not going to end well for them.
This meeting can be only cheap propaganda for the Serbs on the streets or better in the villages. In no country ONE day before important talks the leaders would meet for such an meeting, because it is too late for any real work which has to be done normally in government organs after such a meeting...if the meeting took place possibly only with beer and rakia:)
One question to people commenting. Nationalist overtures aside, if Belgrade stops financing Serbian structures in north Kosovo what choice will people there have but to integrate into Pristina's institutions?
(Observer, 4 March 2013 07:17)
--
As the government has repeated, the structures remain until an agreement is made. The agreement must include executive powers for Serbian enclaves. The theme of these agreements are -> We agree to fall under Pristina except the Serbs are independent of Pristina. From Serbia's point of view, it is "more than autonomy, less than independence". From Pristina's point of view it is "lets pretend we are independent."
You know why? The West loves to hear that word...but for Serbia is a pure propaganda. Serbia wants to break Kosovo from inside out. In other words it wants Kosovo to fail in functioning....that would mean ultimately partition.
At the end of the day...if you read Serbian so-called platform, Serbia is not committed to recognise formally Kosovo independence...so the Serbian "compromise" is a win win situation for Serbia. Conclusively NOT a compromise.
Well Rocky, I appreciate you agreeing with me but, you could have saved us the dramatics. In fact, could all the people in the Balkans please cut the drama queen performances? We are all an emotional group of people, so similar, yet we fight for the small differences that exist between us - language, religion, a few traditions, but pretty much everyone in the Balkans is the same. Too bad we have these hatreds, we could have achieved great things together. OK, let's get back to hating. Yes, I so look forward to some resolution in Kosovo, not for me or the kooks on this sight, but for the people that actually live there. Rocky would invade KiM in a heartbeat for the Albanian cause, but that is not what the problem is in Kosovo. It's about finding a peaceful and lasting solution for the people that live there, and all the ethnicities of the entire region. You a tough guy, Rocky, how come?
"We won the war, serbia needs to accept that"
@(KOSOVA, 3 March 2013 14:23)
With out military Albo won war. Wich one?
With Greeks Albo loose all military, not recovering from 1042yr.
One question to people commenting. Nationalist overtures aside, if Belgrade stops financing Serbian structures in north Kosovo what choice will people there have but to integrate into Pristina's institutions?
The UN resolution 1244 means that albanians and NATO did not win the war completely.
And by the the way they won the air.
What if NATO had to send their soldiers everybody would be still be fighting today.
No RS in Kosova, never! We gave too many lives (10,000) to free Kosova. We cannot allow anyone to steal for what we fought for. We won the war, serbia needs to accept that
There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
(winston, 3 March 2013 15:03)
Surprised to hear a comment from you that makes some sense, and is realistic! Of course, a majority of the people of Serbia realize Kosova is lost, and want nothing to do with it, in their eyes, Kosova was lost a long time ago even before the war in 1999! With the exception of the few radical vampires of Serbia, still in power. 1 that comes to mind, Kostunica. Dacic & Nikolic also, but I believe they have smelled the coffee, & have come to a more realistic conclusion! They have been made aware of, and understand & realize that in-order to restablish a Serbian occupation of Kosova again, would require another major armed conflict against not only the Albanians of Kosova, but against the entire Albanian race! And I mean major! Albanians the world over, would flock in masses back to their ancient homelands without the slightest hesitation! You see, many think and believe that just because some are in the possession of bigger & better army's and weaponry, they can somehow intimidate the Albanian people? I'll tell you right now, that notion couldn't be farther from the truth! Actually, the more powerful the oppressor, the more the Albanian soul searches for a way to bring his oppressor to its knees & bring about its demise! It may not be instant, but eventually they will bring a end to their oppressors! Just take a look at history! And we are still right here, in the heart of the Balkans!
Albanian Farmer, the Serbian people have virtually no power in Serbia, trust me. They have their opinions, but little sway. The entire Kosovo situation is in the hands of the Western powers, and Serbian politicians are using KiM as a bargaining chip at this point. I do not how many Serbs you talk to, but I don't think you have a clear view of Serbian public opinion. There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
My God, what's going on here. "All Serbs think KiM is lost", "NATO won the war" and Rocky pumping himself up on steroids. Yeah, yeah, we have "lost" KiM a few times in history and we have always regained it.
What our politicians are doing now is to negotiate on certain aspects to gain access to €1.5 billion in EU accession funds because we are being pressured into the EU. Think back during WWII under occupation of Nazis. Sure, many people were negotiating with them and many thought we had lost KiM then also.
We negotiate so Pristina claims structures in KiM are under their control while the Serbs are essentially free of Pristina. The Serbs in KiM, especially those in the north are not going to accept Albanian rule, simple as that and regardless of what Belgrade negotiates.
BTW, if NATO won the war, we wouldn't be here negotiating the future of KiM 13 years later. Anyway, Albanian nationalism will stir trouble in the Balkans once again and the next and final time, it will be all neighbours dealing with it. It is not going to end well for them.
NATO won the war after you provoked Milosevic and suffered dearly. You need to accept this.
(Navi, 3 March 2013 19:02)
You got Vojvodina after provoking Austria in WWI and Russia gave you Vojvodian as a reward you must admit this as well. You lost the war in 1999 K-Albanians alied with NATO won deal with it.
There is no one in Serbia that does not think KiM is lost.
(winston, 3 March 2013 15:03)
--
LOL! You've been hanging around your DS buddies a bit too long.
If the west doesn't give the north Kosovo to Serbia i don't see any reason for Serbia to continue negotiations with the EU,but i am optimistic that the North Kosovo will win the autonomy,artificial province Kosovo should not function as a state,the times now are different the U.S is close to collapse,the main western powers like France,UK and others are in deep recession,while Russia and China are becoming stronger than ever,btw i don't believe that Serbia can have major benefits from the EU integration as others Balkan countries have had.If we see in some aspects is not even in Serbian interests to join the EU or NATO,country like Croatia is an Serbian rival,the problem of Bosnia is not resolved yet RS is not independent and of course Kosovo,the west should not give just north Kosovo to Serbia but the whole Kosovo or will have RUSSIA here.
"We won the war, serbia needs to accept that"
@(KOSOVA, 3 March 2013 14:23)
With out military Albo won war. Wich one?
With Greeks Albo loose all military, not recovering from 1042yr.
He recalled that in the previous round of talks they had reached an agreement in principle under which the problem of parallel institutions in Kosovo could be solved by establishing a community of Serb municipalities."
This is the great problem of the Serbs, if Dacic is proclaiming an "agreement in principle" without having any agreement about the content at all. Tomorrow Dacic will sign something which is totally unclear and with the words that "the technical details will be discussed later by experts". Serbia is so focusedon a total un-important day like April 16 that it will do everything what the EU/Prishtina wants. Prishtina is wise only to wait for Belgrades capitulation step by step. Only Belgrade has problems to tell the people that any defeat is a "victory". It is a very dangerous game.
Serbs are now very much in favor of Serbia not having anything to do with Kosovo Whig is why the radical party is dead and the leaders are dacic and nikolic and the previous leader was tadic. There is no nationalism anymore anywhere. Serbia is being wrong taking the place of Kosovo Serbs in negotiating with pristina. This is why vucic compared this situation to the Bosnian Serb situation.
You know why? The West loves to hear that word...but for Serbia is a pure propaganda. Serbia wants to break Kosovo from inside out. In other words it wants Kosovo to fail in functioning....that would mean ultimately partition.
At the end of the day...if you read Serbian so-called platform, Serbia is not committed to recognise formally Kosovo independence...so the Serbian "compromise" is a win win situation for Serbia. Conclusively NOT a compromise.
One question to people commenting. Nationalist overtures aside, if Belgrade stops financing Serbian structures in north Kosovo what choice will people there have but to integrate into Pristina's institutions?
(Observer, 4 March 2013 07:17)
--
As the government has repeated, the structures remain until an agreement is made. The agreement must include executive powers for Serbian enclaves. The theme of these agreements are -> We agree to fall under Pristina except the Serbs are independent of Pristina. From Serbia's point of view, it is "more than autonomy, less than independence". From Pristina's point of view it is "lets pretend we are independent."
The UN resolution 1244 means that albanians and NATO did not win the war completely.
And by the the way they won the air.
What if NATO had to send their soldiers everybody would be still be fighting today.
The new name for the status talks is the "Serbian Concession Sessions"! Grab yourself a bucket of popcorn and watch this Oscar award winning thriller unfold.....
This meeting can be only cheap propaganda for the Serbs on the streets or better in the villages. In no country ONE day before important talks the leaders would meet for such an meeting, because it is too late for any real work which has to be done normally in government organs after such a meeting...if the meeting took place possibly only with beer and rakia:)
One question to people commenting. Nationalist overtures aside, if Belgrade stops financing Serbian structures in north Kosovo what choice will people there have but to integrate into Pristina's institutions?
Well Rocky, I appreciate you agreeing with me but, you could have saved us the dramatics. In fact, could all the people in the Balkans please cut the drama queen performances? We are all an emotional group of people, so similar, yet we fight for the small differences that exist between us - language, religion, a few traditions, but pretty much everyone in the Balkans is the same. Too bad we have these hatreds, we could have achieved great things together. OK, let's get back to hating. Yes, I so look forward to some resolution in Kosovo, not for me or the kooks on this sight, but for the people that actually live there. Rocky would invade KiM in a heartbeat for the Albanian cause, but that is not what the problem is in Kosovo. It's about finding a peaceful and lasting solution for the people that live there, and all the ethnicities of the entire region. You a tough guy, Rocky, how come?
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