“Serbia should not sacrifice statehood for EU talks date”
Serbia should not sacrifice its statehood in Kosovo for a date for the start of the EU talks, Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) leader Vojislav Koštunica says.
How it sounds to be Jewish without any relatetd word was mentioned? It seems that it is simple Anti-Semitism what we cann see here. Also this is an important task to fight against the "Joes" here and everywhere.
Germans aren't nationalistic people at all. You still have to go through the painful process of facing your own past. We did it, and you can learn from us on how to handle it."
Such a statement from a German Neo-Nazi would be strictly forbidden in Germany: the German crimes are single in the world history. Any relativism is strictly forbidden by law. And to compare the brutal German killings of millions with a civil-war in the former YU is inacceptable at all. Serbia ( I am not a Serb)should learn that Nazis from highest ranks were after 45 in the leading state-positions of West-Germany, thusands in the ranks of police, army, justice....and was was learnt? That just some years ago a gang with support of police etc was killing many foreigners. Angela Merkel had to apologize. The so-called non-nationalistic Germans are sending to several local and provincial parliaments extreme right-wing Neo-Nazis, possibly here is spaming one of them?
dialogue will continue because it has no alternative"
There is somebody who has zero knowledge about Germany today. There is a huge wave of young fresh patriotism/nationalism in Germany. You could see it at the World Soccer championship 2006 and later: the wohole country in national colors...if Serbia will not find a stronger expression of their national feelings it will be on the road down. And you see the difference: Germany after their history of 99% supporters of the Holocaust and Serbia a country with a proud record fighting against it. Possibly here are some little bit brown Germans going around?
NO ONE German was sent ever to a foreign court, its forbidden. And this dignity in national affairs was the key for Germany to be soon after 45 again accepted within NATO/EU. Serbs with their missing dignity cannot be respected in Germany etc.
(Lex, 3 March 2013 13:03)
Sorry, but this is a bunch of BS you are writing here. we do not have the same kind of nationalism like you have in Serbia. You will not find very many people here who for instance would say, "I am proud to be a German", because we refelct on our past, and see how much damage was done with the incorrect use of just that problem. Germans aren't nationalistic people at all. You do not see any symbols like German flags here, and if anybody politician is playing the national card here, he is torn apart in the liberal media.
I can just repeat myself from previpous postings, even the serb nationals do not want to hear it. You still have to go through the painful process of facing your own past. We did it, and you can learn from us on how to handle it.
Give it up people. Serbia needs to focus on taking care of it's people in Serbia. Serbia is a little country - everyone is gripping about the EU but the Serbian Government needs someone to show them how to operate. Everyone has a opinion - but Serbia cannot go it alone. Sorry - the balkans are not that important in the big world picture. They are only known for continuing a fight that other countries could care less about.
your solutions to Kosova is one of the worst I have ever read anywhere at any point in my life. me thinks you protest too much. p.s. am going to the US of A with my Kosova passport next month :-)...whilst there, maybe I can meet Ari Gold and show him my Kosova documents
Don't mix up the term 'patriot' and the term 'nationalist'. Some people who are considered 'patriots' in Serbia would be seen as right-wing extremists in Germany."
It is the stupid position you can find only at the Balkan. In the important Western countries it is the highest decoration to be mentioned to have a patriotic and/or national attitude. Dacic, Nikolic or Vucic would be un-thinkable in Germany, ready to give-away the own country. If a German TV-team was attacked in Chna the Chinese had to went to the Foreign Office and was asked to investigate the events. If Serbs or the Serb pension office in Kosovo is attacked, it comes to a soft little protest by the Kosovo-office. Un-thinkable, after Nikolic was not allowed to travel to Kosovo, he has a meeting with the Kosovo-president. If you see the strong nationalism in Albania/Kosovo or Croatia, Serbia is at all not having any proud or patriotism at all. It looks like that the Serbian elite is hating the own people-typically for colonies. Who is importing all the Austrian-yoghurts etc? Gandhi was organizing a protest-movement against the cotton-products from England. And the Serb "patriots" are sitting in the Thaci-parliament and -government, impossible in Germany. NO ONE German was sent ever to a foreign court, its forbidden. And this dignity in national affairs was the key for Germany to be soon after 45 again accepted within NATO/EU. Serbs with their missing dignity cannot be respected in Germany etc.
"In countries like Germany the term "patriot" is the greatest decoration you can get-only in Serb the paople are not allowed to be pro-Serbian. "
(Tom, 2 March 2013 16:39)
Don't mix up the term 'patriot' and the term 'nationalist'. Some people who are considered 'patriots' in Serbia would be seen as right-wing extremists in Germany.
He's right, though he only became smart years after he left office. Before, he had been used as a tool and as a Trojan Horse to bring in the DOS (Destruction of Serbia) and he did do maneuvers, while in office, which betrayed Serbia. But in recent years he has seen the light of what it's all about.
The only way to bring peace & cooperation in Kosovo is for VS to enter and be stationed to prevent all their Albanian clan mafia b*sh*t.
Serbs won't live under Albanian rule and Albanians won't live under Serbian rule so they have to both have security presence and share the responsibilities.
Thaci keeps talking about Kosovo's constitution which is only a quasi interim document he is talking about.
The situation cannot be skewed either way or there will be another war (at least with the citizens anyway).
Even though my own opinion is that Kosovo is completely Serbian it simply won't work because of how many Albanians came and bred via Tito. Albanians as citizens of Serbia will not work. Nor will Serbians be citizens of Kosovo* an Albanian extension.
The power & law has to be merged between Serbia & the autonomous province of Kosovo.
It can and never will be a completely separate state that can function based on Albanian laws & principles. It just won't happen. It will only result in a war. And it can't go back the other direction because again it would only result in the KLA and war.
Stojan, I don't know how old you are. If young enough than you will be dreaming for the next 30-40 years. Than on your dead-bed you will pronounce your last worlds "one day Kosovo will be ours again".
He believes that a “reward in a form of a date for the start of the talks offered by the EU for the killing of the state of Serbia in Kosovo is meaningless, insignificant and shameful for a state that has existed for centuries”.
Vojislav is absolutely correct that that reward is meaningless because the state of Serbia in Kosovo is already dead (for Kosovo Serbs and Albanians alike - they both don't do what Belgrade says).
The only small correction I have for him is that Serbia has existed as a real state only for about a dozen of years, not centuries - if Vojislav were a true patriot like Sthe erbs in these forums he would know by now that only recognition by UN makes a state real :)
"Firstly, we warn the government not to abolish the Serbian statehood in Kosovo at any cost." As far as I know this guy has a law degree. The reality is there has never been any Serbian statehood in Kosovo since 1999. I don't understand why he uses such term other than to play internal politics and appeal to his voters.
Kostunica is perfectly fine with no EU talks and maintaining the status quo for the short term. No one will want to go down in Serbian history as a patriot for giving up on Kosovo, especially for a supposed date of begining entry into the EU that may or maynot come with additional demands. Kostunica is not a nationalist but a patriot trying to fight for Serbia and will go down in history as one. Unfortunately, Tadic allowed EULEX to enter KIM and made the whole situation for the Serbs more complicated.
What a demagogue! He reminds me Hoxha. ........ "we will die /eat grass for the princples of marxism leninism....In fact he and his family lived exeptionally well while the ordinary people were suffering....This type is Koshtunica.
It is exactly your types, which have destroyed Serbia! Also, Serbia has been in the path of self-destruction since it occupied lands that did not belong to her ,1st example Kosova, 2nd example Vojvodina, 3rd example Presevo valley, 4th example Sandzaku! You Serbia, cannot forever hold what does not belong to you!
"Even if he wants to keep Kosovo, the big question is how is he going to get it back? There is no realistic plan that would work. "
-their western sugar daddy is becoming old and toothless. As do all empires who has ravaged this corner of the world. At a certain point not too far away, in fact it´s quite visible, Kosovo will change back to what it always has been and the drug & organ snatchers will go back to Albania proper. So even with a quisling cult governing Serbia working against it´s own interest, all we have to do is wait it out and then give them a little push over the cliff as we did the Germans & Turks. There will be a lot of work to do indeed, cleaning up our southern province littered with filth and garbage and an American fort on top of that but it will be Serbian inevitably...
In countries like Germany the term "patriot" is the greatest decoration you can get-only in Serb the paople are not allowed to be pro-Serbian. A referendum depends only from the question, so try to answer the following with yes or no: Is it true that you yesterday stopped to beat your wife? With Kostunica the problem is, that he is viewing the world as a law-case and is applying ever before courts to solve problems. He has to take the responsibility that he was not able to avoid the current chaos.
“Serbia is at the crossroads but it can still choose which way to go,” Koštunica said at the DSS Main Board session in Kragujevac on Saturday where he presented a four-point plan for the salvation of the country.
He is a nationalist. Not everyone is a nationalist. Some people just want to get on with their lives.
Probably the best solution is an either/or referendum.
Even if he wants to keep Kosovo, the big question is how is he going to get it back? There is no realistic plan that would work.
Therefore, all that is left for nationalists like him is resentment.
The real question for nationalists is how do you make something good from a bad situation? They don't have a plan, but I guess they can moan a lot about he bad life is. (For a lot of people moaning is what makes them happy of course!)
He is a nationalist. Not everyone is a nationalist. Some people just want to get on with their lives.
Probably the best solution is an either/or referendum.
Even if he wants to keep Kosovo, the big question is how is he going to get it back? There is no realistic plan that would work.
Therefore, all that is left for nationalists like him is resentment.
The real question for nationalists is how do you make something good from a bad situation? They don't have a plan, but I guess they can moan a lot about he bad life is. (For a lot of people moaning is what makes them happy of course!)
"Even if he wants to keep Kosovo, the big question is how is he going to get it back? There is no realistic plan that would work. "
-their western sugar daddy is becoming old and toothless. As do all empires who has ravaged this corner of the world. At a certain point not too far away, in fact it´s quite visible, Kosovo will change back to what it always has been and the drug & organ snatchers will go back to Albania proper. So even with a quisling cult governing Serbia working against it´s own interest, all we have to do is wait it out and then give them a little push over the cliff as we did the Germans & Turks. There will be a lot of work to do indeed, cleaning up our southern province littered with filth and garbage and an American fort on top of that but it will be Serbian inevitably...
Kostunica is perfectly fine with no EU talks and maintaining the status quo for the short term. No one will want to go down in Serbian history as a patriot for giving up on Kosovo, especially for a supposed date of begining entry into the EU that may or maynot come with additional demands. Kostunica is not a nationalist but a patriot trying to fight for Serbia and will go down in history as one. Unfortunately, Tadic allowed EULEX to enter KIM and made the whole situation for the Serbs more complicated.
“Serbia is at the crossroads but it can still choose which way to go,” Koštunica said at the DSS Main Board session in Kragujevac on Saturday where he presented a four-point plan for the salvation of the country.
It is exactly your types, which have destroyed Serbia! Also, Serbia has been in the path of self-destruction since it occupied lands that did not belong to her ,1st example Kosova, 2nd example Vojvodina, 3rd example Presevo valley, 4th example Sandzaku! You Serbia, cannot forever hold what does not belong to you!
What a demagogue! He reminds me Hoxha. ........ "we will die /eat grass for the princples of marxism leninism....In fact he and his family lived exeptionally well while the ordinary people were suffering....This type is Koshtunica.
In countries like Germany the term "patriot" is the greatest decoration you can get-only in Serb the paople are not allowed to be pro-Serbian. A referendum depends only from the question, so try to answer the following with yes or no: Is it true that you yesterday stopped to beat your wife? With Kostunica the problem is, that he is viewing the world as a law-case and is applying ever before courts to solve problems. He has to take the responsibility that he was not able to avoid the current chaos.
"Firstly, we warn the government not to abolish the Serbian statehood in Kosovo at any cost." As far as I know this guy has a law degree. The reality is there has never been any Serbian statehood in Kosovo since 1999. I don't understand why he uses such term other than to play internal politics and appeal to his voters.
He's right, though he only became smart years after he left office. Before, he had been used as a tool and as a Trojan Horse to bring in the DOS (Destruction of Serbia) and he did do maneuvers, while in office, which betrayed Serbia. But in recent years he has seen the light of what it's all about.
"In countries like Germany the term "patriot" is the greatest decoration you can get-only in Serb the paople are not allowed to be pro-Serbian. "
(Tom, 2 March 2013 16:39)
Don't mix up the term 'patriot' and the term 'nationalist'. Some people who are considered 'patriots' in Serbia would be seen as right-wing extremists in Germany.
He believes that a “reward in a form of a date for the start of the talks offered by the EU for the killing of the state of Serbia in Kosovo is meaningless, insignificant and shameful for a state that has existed for centuries”.
Vojislav is absolutely correct that that reward is meaningless because the state of Serbia in Kosovo is already dead (for Kosovo Serbs and Albanians alike - they both don't do what Belgrade says).
The only small correction I have for him is that Serbia has existed as a real state only for about a dozen of years, not centuries - if Vojislav were a true patriot like Sthe erbs in these forums he would know by now that only recognition by UN makes a state real :)
Stojan, I don't know how old you are. If young enough than you will be dreaming for the next 30-40 years. Than on your dead-bed you will pronounce your last worlds "one day Kosovo will be ours again".
NO ONE German was sent ever to a foreign court, its forbidden. And this dignity in national affairs was the key for Germany to be soon after 45 again accepted within NATO/EU. Serbs with their missing dignity cannot be respected in Germany etc.
(Lex, 3 March 2013 13:03)
Sorry, but this is a bunch of BS you are writing here. we do not have the same kind of nationalism like you have in Serbia. You will not find very many people here who for instance would say, "I am proud to be a German", because we refelct on our past, and see how much damage was done with the incorrect use of just that problem. Germans aren't nationalistic people at all. You do not see any symbols like German flags here, and if anybody politician is playing the national card here, he is torn apart in the liberal media.
I can just repeat myself from previpous postings, even the serb nationals do not want to hear it. You still have to go through the painful process of facing your own past. We did it, and you can learn from us on how to handle it.
Germans aren't nationalistic people at all. You still have to go through the painful process of facing your own past. We did it, and you can learn from us on how to handle it."
Such a statement from a German Neo-Nazi would be strictly forbidden in Germany: the German crimes are single in the world history. Any relativism is strictly forbidden by law. And to compare the brutal German killings of millions with a civil-war in the former YU is inacceptable at all. Serbia ( I am not a Serb)should learn that Nazis from highest ranks were after 45 in the leading state-positions of West-Germany, thusands in the ranks of police, army, justice....and was was learnt? That just some years ago a gang with support of police etc was killing many foreigners. Angela Merkel had to apologize. The so-called non-nationalistic Germans are sending to several local and provincial parliaments extreme right-wing Neo-Nazis, possibly here is spaming one of them?
your solutions to Kosova is one of the worst I have ever read anywhere at any point in my life. me thinks you protest too much. p.s. am going to the US of A with my Kosova passport next month :-)...whilst there, maybe I can meet Ari Gold and show him my Kosova documents
Give it up people. Serbia needs to focus on taking care of it's people in Serbia. Serbia is a little country - everyone is gripping about the EU but the Serbian Government needs someone to show them how to operate. Everyone has a opinion - but Serbia cannot go it alone. Sorry - the balkans are not that important in the big world picture. They are only known for continuing a fight that other countries could care less about.
The only way to bring peace & cooperation in Kosovo is for VS to enter and be stationed to prevent all their Albanian clan mafia b*sh*t.
Serbs won't live under Albanian rule and Albanians won't live under Serbian rule so they have to both have security presence and share the responsibilities.
Thaci keeps talking about Kosovo's constitution which is only a quasi interim document he is talking about.
The situation cannot be skewed either way or there will be another war (at least with the citizens anyway).
Even though my own opinion is that Kosovo is completely Serbian it simply won't work because of how many Albanians came and bred via Tito. Albanians as citizens of Serbia will not work. Nor will Serbians be citizens of Kosovo* an Albanian extension.
The power & law has to be merged between Serbia & the autonomous province of Kosovo.
It can and never will be a completely separate state that can function based on Albanian laws & principles. It just won't happen. It will only result in a war. And it can't go back the other direction because again it would only result in the KLA and war.
dialogue will continue because it has no alternative"
There is somebody who has zero knowledge about Germany today. There is a huge wave of young fresh patriotism/nationalism in Germany. You could see it at the World Soccer championship 2006 and later: the wohole country in national colors...if Serbia will not find a stronger expression of their national feelings it will be on the road down. And you see the difference: Germany after their history of 99% supporters of the Holocaust and Serbia a country with a proud record fighting against it. Possibly here are some little bit brown Germans going around?
How it sounds to be Jewish without any relatetd word was mentioned? It seems that it is simple Anti-Semitism what we cann see here. Also this is an important task to fight against the "Joes" here and everywhere.
Don't mix up the term 'patriot' and the term 'nationalist'. Some people who are considered 'patriots' in Serbia would be seen as right-wing extremists in Germany."
It is the stupid position you can find only at the Balkan. In the important Western countries it is the highest decoration to be mentioned to have a patriotic and/or national attitude. Dacic, Nikolic or Vucic would be un-thinkable in Germany, ready to give-away the own country. If a German TV-team was attacked in Chna the Chinese had to went to the Foreign Office and was asked to investigate the events. If Serbs or the Serb pension office in Kosovo is attacked, it comes to a soft little protest by the Kosovo-office. Un-thinkable, after Nikolic was not allowed to travel to Kosovo, he has a meeting with the Kosovo-president. If you see the strong nationalism in Albania/Kosovo or Croatia, Serbia is at all not having any proud or patriotism at all. It looks like that the Serbian elite is hating the own people-typically for colonies. Who is importing all the Austrian-yoghurts etc? Gandhi was organizing a protest-movement against the cotton-products from England. And the Serb "patriots" are sitting in the Thaci-parliament and -government, impossible in Germany. NO ONE German was sent ever to a foreign court, its forbidden. And this dignity in national affairs was the key for Germany to be soon after 45 again accepted within NATO/EU. Serbs with their missing dignity cannot be respected in Germany etc.
It is exactly your types, which have destroyed Serbia! Also, Serbia has been in the path of self-destruction since it occupied lands that did not belong to her ,1st example Kosova, 2nd example Vojvodina, 3rd example Presevo valley, 4th example Sandzaku! You Serbia, cannot forever hold what does not belong to you!
He is a nationalist. Not everyone is a nationalist. Some people just want to get on with their lives.
Probably the best solution is an either/or referendum.
Even if he wants to keep Kosovo, the big question is how is he going to get it back? There is no realistic plan that would work.
Therefore, all that is left for nationalists like him is resentment.
The real question for nationalists is how do you make something good from a bad situation? They don't have a plan, but I guess they can moan a lot about he bad life is. (For a lot of people moaning is what makes them happy of course!)
What a demagogue! He reminds me Hoxha. ........ "we will die /eat grass for the princples of marxism leninism....In fact he and his family lived exeptionally well while the ordinary people were suffering....This type is Koshtunica.
"Even if he wants to keep Kosovo, the big question is how is he going to get it back? There is no realistic plan that would work. "
-their western sugar daddy is becoming old and toothless. As do all empires who has ravaged this corner of the world. At a certain point not too far away, in fact it´s quite visible, Kosovo will change back to what it always has been and the drug & organ snatchers will go back to Albania proper. So even with a quisling cult governing Serbia working against it´s own interest, all we have to do is wait it out and then give them a little push over the cliff as we did the Germans & Turks. There will be a lot of work to do indeed, cleaning up our southern province littered with filth and garbage and an American fort on top of that but it will be Serbian inevitably...
"Firstly, we warn the government not to abolish the Serbian statehood in Kosovo at any cost." As far as I know this guy has a law degree. The reality is there has never been any Serbian statehood in Kosovo since 1999. I don't understand why he uses such term other than to play internal politics and appeal to his voters.
In countries like Germany the term "patriot" is the greatest decoration you can get-only in Serb the paople are not allowed to be pro-Serbian. A referendum depends only from the question, so try to answer the following with yes or no: Is it true that you yesterday stopped to beat your wife? With Kostunica the problem is, that he is viewing the world as a law-case and is applying ever before courts to solve problems. He has to take the responsibility that he was not able to avoid the current chaos.
Kostunica is perfectly fine with no EU talks and maintaining the status quo for the short term. No one will want to go down in Serbian history as a patriot for giving up on Kosovo, especially for a supposed date of begining entry into the EU that may or maynot come with additional demands. Kostunica is not a nationalist but a patriot trying to fight for Serbia and will go down in history as one. Unfortunately, Tadic allowed EULEX to enter KIM and made the whole situation for the Serbs more complicated.
Don't mix up the term 'patriot' and the term 'nationalist'. Some people who are considered 'patriots' in Serbia would be seen as right-wing extremists in Germany."
It is the stupid position you can find only at the Balkan. In the important Western countries it is the highest decoration to be mentioned to have a patriotic and/or national attitude. Dacic, Nikolic or Vucic would be un-thinkable in Germany, ready to give-away the own country. If a German TV-team was attacked in Chna the Chinese had to went to the Foreign Office and was asked to investigate the events. If Serbs or the Serb pension office in Kosovo is attacked, it comes to a soft little protest by the Kosovo-office. Un-thinkable, after Nikolic was not allowed to travel to Kosovo, he has a meeting with the Kosovo-president. If you see the strong nationalism in Albania/Kosovo or Croatia, Serbia is at all not having any proud or patriotism at all. It looks like that the Serbian elite is hating the own people-typically for colonies. Who is importing all the Austrian-yoghurts etc? Gandhi was organizing a protest-movement against the cotton-products from England. And the Serb "patriots" are sitting in the Thaci-parliament and -government, impossible in Germany. NO ONE German was sent ever to a foreign court, its forbidden. And this dignity in national affairs was the key for Germany to be soon after 45 again accepted within NATO/EU. Serbs with their missing dignity cannot be respected in Germany etc.
The only way to bring peace & cooperation in Kosovo is for VS to enter and be stationed to prevent all their Albanian clan mafia b*sh*t.
Serbs won't live under Albanian rule and Albanians won't live under Serbian rule so they have to both have security presence and share the responsibilities.
Thaci keeps talking about Kosovo's constitution which is only a quasi interim document he is talking about.
The situation cannot be skewed either way or there will be another war (at least with the citizens anyway).
Even though my own opinion is that Kosovo is completely Serbian it simply won't work because of how many Albanians came and bred via Tito. Albanians as citizens of Serbia will not work. Nor will Serbians be citizens of Kosovo* an Albanian extension.
The power & law has to be merged between Serbia & the autonomous province of Kosovo.
It can and never will be a completely separate state that can function based on Albanian laws & principles. It just won't happen. It will only result in a war. And it can't go back the other direction because again it would only result in the KLA and war.
your solutions to Kosova is one of the worst I have ever read anywhere at any point in my life. me thinks you protest too much. p.s. am going to the US of A with my Kosova passport next month :-)...whilst there, maybe I can meet Ari Gold and show him my Kosova documents
NO ONE German was sent ever to a foreign court, its forbidden. And this dignity in national affairs was the key for Germany to be soon after 45 again accepted within NATO/EU. Serbs with their missing dignity cannot be respected in Germany etc.
(Lex, 3 March 2013 13:03)
Sorry, but this is a bunch of BS you are writing here. we do not have the same kind of nationalism like you have in Serbia. You will not find very many people here who for instance would say, "I am proud to be a German", because we refelct on our past, and see how much damage was done with the incorrect use of just that problem. Germans aren't nationalistic people at all. You do not see any symbols like German flags here, and if anybody politician is playing the national card here, he is torn apart in the liberal media.
I can just repeat myself from previpous postings, even the serb nationals do not want to hear it. You still have to go through the painful process of facing your own past. We did it, and you can learn from us on how to handle it.
“Serbia is at the crossroads but it can still choose which way to go,” Koštunica said at the DSS Main Board session in Kragujevac on Saturday where he presented a four-point plan for the salvation of the country.
He believes that a “reward in a form of a date for the start of the talks offered by the EU for the killing of the state of Serbia in Kosovo is meaningless, insignificant and shameful for a state that has existed for centuries”.
Vojislav is absolutely correct that that reward is meaningless because the state of Serbia in Kosovo is already dead (for Kosovo Serbs and Albanians alike - they both don't do what Belgrade says).
The only small correction I have for him is that Serbia has existed as a real state only for about a dozen of years, not centuries - if Vojislav were a true patriot like Sthe erbs in these forums he would know by now that only recognition by UN makes a state real :)
Stojan, I don't know how old you are. If young enough than you will be dreaming for the next 30-40 years. Than on your dead-bed you will pronounce your last worlds "one day Kosovo will be ours again".
He's right, though he only became smart years after he left office. Before, he had been used as a tool and as a Trojan Horse to bring in the DOS (Destruction of Serbia) and he did do maneuvers, while in office, which betrayed Serbia. But in recent years he has seen the light of what it's all about.
"In countries like Germany the term "patriot" is the greatest decoration you can get-only in Serb the paople are not allowed to be pro-Serbian. "
(Tom, 2 March 2013 16:39)
Don't mix up the term 'patriot' and the term 'nationalist'. Some people who are considered 'patriots' in Serbia would be seen as right-wing extremists in Germany.
dialogue will continue because it has no alternative"
There is somebody who has zero knowledge about Germany today. There is a huge wave of young fresh patriotism/nationalism in Germany. You could see it at the World Soccer championship 2006 and later: the wohole country in national colors...if Serbia will not find a stronger expression of their national feelings it will be on the road down. And you see the difference: Germany after their history of 99% supporters of the Holocaust and Serbia a country with a proud record fighting against it. Possibly here are some little bit brown Germans going around?
Germans aren't nationalistic people at all. You still have to go through the painful process of facing your own past. We did it, and you can learn from us on how to handle it."
Such a statement from a German Neo-Nazi would be strictly forbidden in Germany: the German crimes are single in the world history. Any relativism is strictly forbidden by law. And to compare the brutal German killings of millions with a civil-war in the former YU is inacceptable at all. Serbia ( I am not a Serb)should learn that Nazis from highest ranks were after 45 in the leading state-positions of West-Germany, thusands in the ranks of police, army, justice....and was was learnt? That just some years ago a gang with support of police etc was killing many foreigners. Angela Merkel had to apologize. The so-called non-nationalistic Germans are sending to several local and provincial parliaments extreme right-wing Neo-Nazis, possibly here is spaming one of them?
Give it up people. Serbia needs to focus on taking care of it's people in Serbia. Serbia is a little country - everyone is gripping about the EU but the Serbian Government needs someone to show them how to operate. Everyone has a opinion - but Serbia cannot go it alone. Sorry - the balkans are not that important in the big world picture. They are only known for continuing a fight that other countries could care less about.
How it sounds to be Jewish without any relatetd word was mentioned? It seems that it is simple Anti-Semitism what we cann see here. Also this is an important task to fight against the "Joes" here and everywhere.
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