Top officials define strategy for continuation of talks

EA-wake and bake this morning? Miles wrote an excellent post the other day. Basically, how in hell have the Albanians given the Serbs any confidence to live safely in Kosovo or trust the Albanians. The Kalbs just havent earned the right to independence in any shape or form.. There has been nothing but criminality. I was in Pristina in the 90's on several occasions, and the Albanians lived freely and with all rights a minority could hope for.

Let me help you Dacic. Hold the bull by its horns which means Serbia must recognise Kosovo independece first.....the real talks can start......
(EA, 1 March 2013 09:54)
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According to comments from Albanians here, we recognise "Kosovahh"* every second week? Aren't you independent already?

Let me help you Dacic. Hold the bull by its horns which means Serbia must recognise Kosovo independece first.....the real talks can start......

Wrong as usual EA, Serbia is on the right path as is Kosovo now by negotiating. There is no other option. Do you prefer the days of war? I saw that Hasim called the US for help today. Looks like he's worried about having to compromise. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/kosovo-turns-us-talks-serbia-18606407

LOL EA!

If Serbia recognizes Kosovo, then there will be nothing left to talk about.

All young Kosalbos need to go back home to their parents in Albania for their next command of instructions.

For some reasons the EU bureaucrats can’t afford telling the truth and call spade a spade. All because EU is not certain of it’s own future and so they care little of those would like to pump out their money like the newcomers did last two decades. The truth is that Serbia has very virtual chances to have the membership. Maximal target for the decade to come will be the candidacy status to last as much as it will be required to make this special people obey Brussels. On the Serbian side the situation is similar and here too nobody dares to tell the same truth.

So both sides pretend to take the candidacy chances as serious ones and play the same game. Best thing I can suggest is that SNS is waiting for it’s electoral ratings to increase even more while the EU idea is discredited day by day by EU itself. So possibly someday Serbs will stop the roundabout talks and take the reality as it is. Such a turn may be a good ultimatum to change something in the EU approach or it may be a start towards euro separatism. At least there are other roots to develop the economy and let the folks plan their lives.

What is different from the previous strategy???

We can waste time as much as we want but the bottom line is:

Serbia does not want to recognize Kosova? OK it's her right.

BUT

shoudl stop blocking others that want to recognize Kosova including UN.

This is the only fair deal.

Others if the municipal assembly will have rights to decide about public parks or about health care system that is purely technicalities.

Andy: you visited Kosova in the 90s during a pure apartheid regime and you found nothing wrong??? this tells a lot about you man.

Wow 90's was a "paradise". Closing of the University, expelling intellectuals from work, political arrests...perfect example of minority rights. Talk about delusional.

According to comments from Albanians here, we recognise "Kosovahh"* every second week? Aren't you independent already?
(Zoran, 1 March 2013 10:53)

If you read the article Zoran you would have noticed that its Serbia that is asking for compromise from the Kosovars and not the other way around. Pristina doesn't care whether or not Serbia recognizes them. The number of countries world wide that have recognized Kosova have gone up and up since the declaration of independence. B92 conveniently never reports about that anymore though, they prefer to write article about countries that are "resisting" such as Tunisia. Another example of bogus reporting is when B92 refers to the IBM Integrated BORDER Management as an "administrative line". What is an administrative line? No such thing exists. Find a definition online and then you can call it anything else but a BORDER. To call a spade a spade....Kosova is independent.

@Andy,

Saying that the 90' in Kosovo were perfect its like saying Assad would be the next pope in Vatikan. Come on mate 90% of our fathers were kicked out of their jobs just becouse they were Albanians, Schools were closed and so many other things bad that I don't want to list here. I truly wish you have to live in an environment like that.

the only reson wy serbia behave this way is becose she knows she will have to pay billions in compensation for all the dameges she dann in kosovo

“I do not know what else we can propose aside from recognizing Kosovo’s independence and saying ‘nothing we say is respected, do whatever you want’,” he pointed out. "

Its not easy to find the point within Dacic too small desinformation-campaigns. But here we can see, that Prishtina has a clear and firm position, Belgrade is running behind with ists "compromises" what means more having no clear stand at all. Dacic is ready to sell his own grandmother for a date of negotiations without any hope. And if you see the newest food-scandal in Germany created by Serb animal-food with headlines in all German media, there is no way for Serbia to be respected. Possibly this scandal was published now to press Serbia in the direction of total capitulation in Brussels? Serbia doesnt know how to finf the right moment for the right agreement. Its all too small.

Kosova to give more...how about 10,000 lives we gave? Was that not enough? I know how human lives mean nothing to serbs (HINT: Bosnian genocide)

Ben- if that was apartheid, i would happily live in it. Today it is real apartheid.

(Andy Dufresne, 1 March 2013 13:08)

to have real taste go to Riyadh and declare yourself homosexual then.
and I'm not discussing ever again with man with such moral values as you.

Ben- good. Go spew your nonsense on an Albanian site. The less like you here the better.
(Andy dufresne, 1 March 2013 17:39)

i can and i will ignore you but that's as far as i can go.

I'm sorry I cannot accommodate you on this one thou. I simpy love too much annoying expat chetnicks. And when I meet them i love to beat them red and blue too.

Ben- good. Go spew your nonsense on an Albanian site. The less like you here the better.

Ben, sending andy to Riyath was a good one.

Ben- if that was apartheid, i would happily live in it. Today it is real apartheid.
(Andy Dufresne, 1 March 2013 13:08)

No, today it's a lawless mafia state where criminals turned into politicians, without any civic society, without any laws but omerta of the mafia clans.

'Ben, sending andy to Riyath was a good one.
(Joe, 1 March 2013 18:28) "

Awwww how cute are you guys going to have dinner together tonight?

@(Peter, 1 March 2013 17:10)
Do Albanians have strategy? Territory taken by force, self-proclaimed republic, organs trafficking, is this the valid strategy for Europe?

Top officials define strategy for continuation of talks"

Strategy or they are meaning tactics? How the Serbs can change or create for any round of talks a "new strategy"? They dont now what is a strategy. The are playing with the live and the social fundament of the lives of thousands of Serbs. They cannot guarantee normal clean milk within their little country. And these guys ill guarantee a future for Serbs in the area of Kosovo? There "strategy" is only to secure their own offices, black limos and villas in Dedenje and foreign bank-accounts. Why they should meet again and again with public statements after having their "famous platform"? After a clear word from Germany or Brussels they are ready to change completely their "strategy". And what is the Germany strategy? Only some small sentences outspoken by Merkel in Belgrade, possibly only a litte paper recieved by the leaders from Prishtina. Thats all, and this will not be changed at all. And the German government or parliament had therefore never Serbia only one time on the agenda. This is a strategy in the real meaning of the word.

“Serbia is ready to fulfill all requests from the conclusions of the EU Council,” Đurić said."

..and so Prishtina would be stupid to anything to Belgrade when Belgrade declared it will "fulfill all requests". The so-called international community is the group of states which have recognized Kosovo and the see the refuse by Blgrade not to do the same as attack on their political views at all. Beside some aspects of schooling and health-system with transparent payments over Prishtina there is no room for the Serb "ideas". But it looks so that all the great words by the serb elite are only directed to the no-informed Serbs to play the great negotiator. Behind closed doors Belgrade has agreed to let the Serbs n Kosovo alone with heir non-existing future. Belgrade has at the end oranized the exodus of so many Serbs from Croatia, BiH and also Kosovo. They have no emotional feeling for 50 or 60 thousand mainly old people living there. Serbias politicians have explained too long the own people that after the the beginning of EU-talks will the live for the Serbs like in milk and honey. And also after the beginning of these talks they will saying that its now just a short way and so on. The way of lies and promises is endless in Serbia and will end in the mass-exodus to the "heaven" with all the known complains"but the Albanians are allowed to do so and so, but we not"

A valid comparison: Dictatorships and oppression by the state organs was stopped, but instead it was replaced with anarchy, unsafe and unstable environment, poor economy and unemployment, paired with sprouting religious and/or national fanatism, thus creating a safe harbor for criminals and extremists do to their 'business'. Establishing democracy and human rights in those places? Forget about it!

Iraq, Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Syria .... feel free to fill the blanks.
(Comm. Parrisson, 2 March 2013 08:15)

Yes, dictatorships and oppression by the state organs lead to anarchy, unsafe and unstable environment, poor economy and unemployment, paired with sprouting religious and/or national fanatism, thus creating a safe harbor for criminals and extremists do to their 'business'. that's why the first thing to do to solve the problem is to remove the Dictatorships and oppression by the state organs

"Saying that the 90' in Kosovo were perfect its like saying Assad would be the next pope in Vatikan. "
(Mendo, 1 March 2013 22:18)

A valid comparison: Dictatorships and oppression by the state organs was stopped, but instead it was replaced with anarchy, unsafe and unstable environment, poor economy and unemployment, paired with sprouting religious and/or national fanatism, thus creating a safe harbor for criminals and extremists do to their 'business'. Establishing democracy and human rights in those places? Forget about it!

Iraq, Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Syria .... feel free to fill the blanks.

Do Albanians have strategy"

The questions shows ignorance that Serbia lost a part of its territory and is sitting now in Brussels to accept the realities with IBM etc.
The problem of the Serbs is that they have ignored too long the long-lasting Great-Albania strategy. The proud position of the Albanians to boycott over years the serb institutions shows how low the Serbs are acting with taking the Kosovo-ID etc. The Serbs cannot analyse cool the realities and possible ways to make the country stronger. It only becomes worse and more worse.

Mendo- all I can do is comment on what I saw and heard. The Albanians were far more scared of the kla than the Serbs. My friends seemed fairly content with their lives at the time and Pristina was fun place for anyone to be. One of my dear friends disappeared and his family swear it was the kla.

"Iraq, Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Syria .... feel free to fill the blanks. "

what an exceptionally stupid comment. point me to the suicide bombing in Kosova. you can't. now that we're talking about democracies, how's Russia doing?

Let me help you Dacic. Hold the bull by its horns which means Serbia must recognise Kosovo independece first.....the real talks can start......

the only reson wy serbia behave this way is becose she knows she will have to pay billions in compensation for all the dameges she dann in kosovo

LOL EA!

If Serbia recognizes Kosovo, then there will be nothing left to talk about.

All young Kosalbos need to go back home to their parents in Albania for their next command of instructions.

Wrong as usual EA, Serbia is on the right path as is Kosovo now by negotiating. There is no other option. Do you prefer the days of war? I saw that Hasim called the US for help today. Looks like he's worried about having to compromise. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/kosovo-turns-us-talks-serbia-18606407

EA-wake and bake this morning? Miles wrote an excellent post the other day. Basically, how in hell have the Albanians given the Serbs any confidence to live safely in Kosovo or trust the Albanians. The Kalbs just havent earned the right to independence in any shape or form.. There has been nothing but criminality. I was in Pristina in the 90's on several occasions, and the Albanians lived freely and with all rights a minority could hope for.

What is different from the previous strategy???

We can waste time as much as we want but the bottom line is:

Serbia does not want to recognize Kosova? OK it's her right.

BUT

shoudl stop blocking others that want to recognize Kosova including UN.

This is the only fair deal.

Others if the municipal assembly will have rights to decide about public parks or about health care system that is purely technicalities.

Andy: you visited Kosova in the 90s during a pure apartheid regime and you found nothing wrong??? this tells a lot about you man.

Let me help you Dacic. Hold the bull by its horns which means Serbia must recognise Kosovo independece first.....the real talks can start......
(EA, 1 March 2013 09:54)
--
According to comments from Albanians here, we recognise "Kosovahh"* every second week? Aren't you independent already?

Ben- good. Go spew your nonsense on an Albanian site. The less like you here the better.

For some reasons the EU bureaucrats can’t afford telling the truth and call spade a spade. All because EU is not certain of it’s own future and so they care little of those would like to pump out their money like the newcomers did last two decades. The truth is that Serbia has very virtual chances to have the membership. Maximal target for the decade to come will be the candidacy status to last as much as it will be required to make this special people obey Brussels. On the Serbian side the situation is similar and here too nobody dares to tell the same truth.

So both sides pretend to take the candidacy chances as serious ones and play the same game. Best thing I can suggest is that SNS is waiting for it’s electoral ratings to increase even more while the EU idea is discredited day by day by EU itself. So possibly someday Serbs will stop the roundabout talks and take the reality as it is. Such a turn may be a good ultimatum to change something in the EU approach or it may be a start towards euro separatism. At least there are other roots to develop the economy and let the folks plan their lives.

Ben- if that was apartheid, i would happily live in it. Today it is real apartheid.

Ben- if that was apartheid, i would happily live in it. Today it is real apartheid.
(Andy Dufresne, 1 March 2013 13:08)

No, today it's a lawless mafia state where criminals turned into politicians, without any civic society, without any laws but omerta of the mafia clans.

According to comments from Albanians here, we recognise "Kosovahh"* every second week? Aren't you independent already?
(Zoran, 1 March 2013 10:53)

If you read the article Zoran you would have noticed that its Serbia that is asking for compromise from the Kosovars and not the other way around. Pristina doesn't care whether or not Serbia recognizes them. The number of countries world wide that have recognized Kosova have gone up and up since the declaration of independence. B92 conveniently never reports about that anymore though, they prefer to write article about countries that are "resisting" such as Tunisia. Another example of bogus reporting is when B92 refers to the IBM Integrated BORDER Management as an "administrative line". What is an administrative line? No such thing exists. Find a definition online and then you can call it anything else but a BORDER. To call a spade a spade....Kosova is independent.

“Serbia is ready to fulfill all requests from the conclusions of the EU Council,” Đurić said."

..and so Prishtina would be stupid to anything to Belgrade when Belgrade declared it will "fulfill all requests". The so-called international community is the group of states which have recognized Kosovo and the see the refuse by Blgrade not to do the same as attack on their political views at all. Beside some aspects of schooling and health-system with transparent payments over Prishtina there is no room for the Serb "ideas". But it looks so that all the great words by the serb elite are only directed to the no-informed Serbs to play the great negotiator. Behind closed doors Belgrade has agreed to let the Serbs n Kosovo alone with heir non-existing future. Belgrade has at the end oranized the exodus of so many Serbs from Croatia, BiH and also Kosovo. They have no emotional feeling for 50 or 60 thousand mainly old people living there. Serbias politicians have explained too long the own people that after the the beginning of EU-talks will the live for the Serbs like in milk and honey. And also after the beginning of these talks they will saying that its now just a short way and so on. The way of lies and promises is endless in Serbia and will end in the mass-exodus to the "heaven" with all the known complains"but the Albanians are allowed to do so and so, but we not"

'Ben, sending andy to Riyath was a good one.
(Joe, 1 March 2013 18:28) "

Awwww how cute are you guys going to have dinner together tonight?

@(Peter, 1 March 2013 17:10)
Do Albanians have strategy? Territory taken by force, self-proclaimed republic, organs trafficking, is this the valid strategy for Europe?

Wow 90's was a "paradise". Closing of the University, expelling intellectuals from work, political arrests...perfect example of minority rights. Talk about delusional.

(Andy Dufresne, 1 March 2013 13:08)

to have real taste go to Riyadh and declare yourself homosexual then.
and I'm not discussing ever again with man with such moral values as you.

Top officials define strategy for continuation of talks"

Strategy or they are meaning tactics? How the Serbs can change or create for any round of talks a "new strategy"? They dont now what is a strategy. The are playing with the live and the social fundament of the lives of thousands of Serbs. They cannot guarantee normal clean milk within their little country. And these guys ill guarantee a future for Serbs in the area of Kosovo? There "strategy" is only to secure their own offices, black limos and villas in Dedenje and foreign bank-accounts. Why they should meet again and again with public statements after having their "famous platform"? After a clear word from Germany or Brussels they are ready to change completely their "strategy". And what is the Germany strategy? Only some small sentences outspoken by Merkel in Belgrade, possibly only a litte paper recieved by the leaders from Prishtina. Thats all, and this will not be changed at all. And the German government or parliament had therefore never Serbia only one time on the agenda. This is a strategy in the real meaning of the word.

Ben- good. Go spew your nonsense on an Albanian site. The less like you here the better.
(Andy dufresne, 1 March 2013 17:39)

i can and i will ignore you but that's as far as i can go.

I'm sorry I cannot accommodate you on this one thou. I simpy love too much annoying expat chetnicks. And when I meet them i love to beat them red and blue too.

Kosova to give more...how about 10,000 lives we gave? Was that not enough? I know how human lives mean nothing to serbs (HINT: Bosnian genocide)

“I do not know what else we can propose aside from recognizing Kosovo’s independence and saying ‘nothing we say is respected, do whatever you want’,” he pointed out. "

Its not easy to find the point within Dacic too small desinformation-campaigns. But here we can see, that Prishtina has a clear and firm position, Belgrade is running behind with ists "compromises" what means more having no clear stand at all. Dacic is ready to sell his own grandmother for a date of negotiations without any hope. And if you see the newest food-scandal in Germany created by Serb animal-food with headlines in all German media, there is no way for Serbia to be respected. Possibly this scandal was published now to press Serbia in the direction of total capitulation in Brussels? Serbia doesnt know how to finf the right moment for the right agreement. Its all too small.

"Saying that the 90' in Kosovo were perfect its like saying Assad would be the next pope in Vatikan. "
(Mendo, 1 March 2013 22:18)

A valid comparison: Dictatorships and oppression by the state organs was stopped, but instead it was replaced with anarchy, unsafe and unstable environment, poor economy and unemployment, paired with sprouting religious and/or national fanatism, thus creating a safe harbor for criminals and extremists do to their 'business'. Establishing democracy and human rights in those places? Forget about it!

Iraq, Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Syria .... feel free to fill the blanks.

Mendo- all I can do is comment on what I saw and heard. The Albanians were far more scared of the kla than the Serbs. My friends seemed fairly content with their lives at the time and Pristina was fun place for anyone to be. One of my dear friends disappeared and his family swear it was the kla.

Ben, sending andy to Riyath was a good one.

@Andy,

Saying that the 90' in Kosovo were perfect its like saying Assad would be the next pope in Vatikan. Come on mate 90% of our fathers were kicked out of their jobs just becouse they were Albanians, Schools were closed and so many other things bad that I don't want to list here. I truly wish you have to live in an environment like that.

Do Albanians have strategy"

The questions shows ignorance that Serbia lost a part of its territory and is sitting now in Brussels to accept the realities with IBM etc.
The problem of the Serbs is that they have ignored too long the long-lasting Great-Albania strategy. The proud position of the Albanians to boycott over years the serb institutions shows how low the Serbs are acting with taking the Kosovo-ID etc. The Serbs cannot analyse cool the realities and possible ways to make the country stronger. It only becomes worse and more worse.

A valid comparison: Dictatorships and oppression by the state organs was stopped, but instead it was replaced with anarchy, unsafe and unstable environment, poor economy and unemployment, paired with sprouting religious and/or national fanatism, thus creating a safe harbor for criminals and extremists do to their 'business'. Establishing democracy and human rights in those places? Forget about it!

Iraq, Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Syria .... feel free to fill the blanks.
(Comm. Parrisson, 2 March 2013 08:15)

Yes, dictatorships and oppression by the state organs lead to anarchy, unsafe and unstable environment, poor economy and unemployment, paired with sprouting religious and/or national fanatism, thus creating a safe harbor for criminals and extremists do to their 'business'. that's why the first thing to do to solve the problem is to remove the Dictatorships and oppression by the state organs

"Iraq, Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Syria .... feel free to fill the blanks. "

what an exceptionally stupid comment. point me to the suicide bombing in Kosova. you can't. now that we're talking about democracies, how's Russia doing?