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Thursday, 28.02.2013.

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PM believes partition is "best solution" for Kosovo

Ivica Dačić said on Thursday that he "still believes" that a partition of Kosovo and "separation" with ethnic Albanians there was "the best solution".

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Eric

pre 11 godina

I also believe separation is the best solution for Kosovo. I also believe separation of Macedonia is the best solution. I also believe separation presheva is the best solution and Montenegro. Albanians got nothing to lose but gain :))) lets do it

icj1

pre 11 godina

How can people who have Serbia's interests first and foremost get into politics?
(Peggy, 1 March 2013 23:29)

Probably by returning to Serbia from Australia... It appears only the Serb diaspora (who does not live in Serbia) cares about Serbia's interests first and foremost :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

Kick KFOR out of Kosovo and let EUELES oversee VS & Serbian police.
(trizo, 28 February 2013 23:16)

Sure, but you need to convince Russia about that to change UNSCR 1244

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Why do you come and slap me around? ? I dare you, no, I beg you to try!
(KOSOVA, 1 March 2013 00:39)
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You Albanians have been begging to be slapped around for a long time now and one day you will get your wish.

Now, Dacic is a complete moron and I can't understand how he has lasted for so long.
Is the situation in Serbia so desperate and not one quality politician is available to help the people?
How on earth did we get to this point? I don't see any reason for elections because whoever they elect isn't going to do any better.

How can people who have Serbia's interests first and foremost get into politics?

bganon

pre 11 godina

For God's sake this idiot we have for a Prime Minister should know that any serious country has an official policy on one of its primary issues.

Either the official policy is Kosovo within Serbia or it is the division of Kosovo. If 'they' won't let him talk about partition then why is he talking about it? He did say one thing right 'he doesn't know' - what he's doing.

Then he says 'this is a key moment we must be united over what we are asking'....

T

pre 11 godina

Partition?? No way Pedro, as Dell Boy would say. Theoretically a good idea. Practically not workable.
Dacic, as a politician needs to be seen doing something, even if doing something is a complete waste of time.

moris

pre 11 godina

It is a give and take situation.
For the moment Kosovo is not a real state and belongs to serbia according to the UN 1244 resolution.
So albanians just take for the moment.

ben

pre 11 godina

In 100 years from now, the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian.
(Ardi Asllani, 28 February 2013 18:29)

My dear Ardi. What you just said is 100% compatible with the Serbian propaganda.

Serbian lies about Kosova are mainly two:
1. migration from Albania
2. huge natality

what they want people to forget is that natality is social and economical product not racial.

Until the 60s/70s the economic growth of Kosova and the rest of Serbia espcially with the south and central Serbia was the SAME. The natality was SAME.

During the 60s and 70s Yugo/Serbia directed the FDI towards the Serbian Jerusalem, the Serbian heart and souls: Serbia itself. Thus they built the car factory in Kragujevac, Serbia, not in the Serbian "Jerusalem" Decan.

These FDI improved the economic situation in Serbia but Kosova was left miserable and underdeveloped. Consequently many Kosovars migrated mainly in Western Europe. By the end of 80s the migration of Albanians brought the population growth level to the pre 70s or same as Serbian.

Now another myth: Kosova according to these same Serbian mega ignorants was supposed to reach by year 2000 about 3 million. Today Kosova has 1.7million.

Albania in 1998 had 3.8 million today has 3 million.

In 100 years the Balkans will speak same languages that is speaking today. And thanks God for that.

It will be very nice if we Albanians once and for all forget about this fake argument as it is fake, and it doesn't honour us at all.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Solution, give back control of Kosovo to Serbia. Kick KFOR out of Kosovo and let EUELES oversee VS & Serbian police.

Persecute all Albanians for destroying Serbian property & churches/graves.

Stop Albanian mafia drug rings & human trafficking gangs in Kosovo.

Return Kosovo to being a sacred place.

Send all ex KLA terrorist members to Albania.

Don't listen anymore to whining Albanians and their stupid unrealistic demands, instead just slap them around a bit.

miri

pre 11 godina

Avni- .Well at least you admit it. Albanians are not using success and progress as their strategy, it's just to have more babies who grow up in poverty.
(Aura, 28 February 2013 20:47)

Pretty smart huh... What do you think?
We have all the fun and then we take the land.

(This theory always cracks me up!)

Mark

pre 11 godina

PM believes partition is "best solution" for Kosovo.

True, partition of Serbia is even a better solution. Presevo goes to Kosovo,Vojvodina to Hungary and Sandzjak to Bosnia.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Ian, autonomy does not mean safety for Serbs and you know it.
What happens to Serbs if Serbia says, ok now we recognise Kosovo or part of it and the international community leaves?
Do you think we are idiots and trust that our people will be ok there?

Besides, you don't reward theft of your property by giving a bit of it away just because the thief had help. You continue to hold onto the property legally and work on getting it back.

winston

pre 11 godina

I promised I would not comment on Kosovo issues for two weeks, and I will not but, my comment is not a Kosovo issue. Whatever Mr. Dacic says, whatever his opinion, I say no! A man that was Milosevic's prodigy, a die-hard socialist that went whole-heartedly into the Balkan wars in the 90's, that now preaches compromise, well, f off. Get your fat rump out of Serbian politics, the Kosovo issue can wait. But you have no business in the resolution of the Kosovo issue at all. Be thankful you were not on the buddy seat with Slobodan on his flight to the Hague, where you should have been.

Joe

pre 11 godina

"In 100 years from now the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian". Ardi, based upon demographic changes on the Balkans your prediction is fairly realistic. My best wishes for you!!!

KOSOVA

pre 11 godina

Hashim Thaqi should be charged with treason... we are only giving what serbia wants and they offer nothing in return. We gave 10,000 lives for Kosova in a single year...we gave enough! Thaqi should step down!

Aura

pre 11 godina

Avni- .Well at least you admit it. Albanians are not using success and progress as their strategy, it's just to have more babies who grow up in poverty.

peter

pre 11 godina

The same that is happening to albanians in presevo valley

thats why i believe a good solution to this would be exchange of N.Kosovo for the populated area of the presevo valley.

Mark

pre 11 godina

However, noted the prime minister, now even that is not enough, with the Kosovo Albanian side, i.e., Priština, demanding that such a future association not be given any powers, which he said was "unacceptable".

Why is that unacceptable for serbs in kosovo,but is acceptable for albanians in presevo valley?


"Serbia has had a fair approach, I don't know what else we could suggest, short of recognizing Kosovo and saying, 'nothing of ours is being taken into account, do what you please'. But, what will happen to our people in that case," wondered the prime minister.

The same that is happening to albanians in presevo valley.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

In an ideal world borders in the Balkans should be drawn along ethnic lines. This would almost guarantee peace in the region.

Serbia, Kosovo and Croatia would expand. I don't know what would come of Bosnia but the situation there is dire as it is.

Macedonia would probably cease to desist. Who are Macedonians anyway?
Montenegro would also cease to desist and Serbia would become the biggest benefactor.

I don't see how MN will continue to exist for a long time considering that Montenegrins are not the majority and they continue to rule by manipulating the minorities there and creating inter-ethnic/religious hatred. Perhaps, they see Montenegrins as the lesser of the two evils and continue to vote for Mile considering the violent past of Serbs.

Although, it's just a pipe dream, I'm pretty sure Albanians and Croats would be open to the idea of exchanging land. I wonder how many Serbs would agree.

Aura

pre 11 godina

Avni- dont worry. We aint going nowhere. Kosovo has always been Serbian, and will be again. Count on it. We will wait a 1000 years if need be. Anyway, after the locals see what a mess you make of the place, they will be begging to come back. Now go cry to mummy for help.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Avni- dont worry. We aint going nowhere. Kosovo has always been Serbian, and will be again. Count on it. We will wait a 1000 years if need be. Anyway, after the locals see what a mess you make of the place, they will be begging to come back. Now go cry to mummy for help.
(Aura, 28 February 2013 18:07)

In 100 years from now, the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian.

Rick

pre 11 godina

Dacis is pomoting what he news will become true. In practice it would mean to seperate the mixed-families within Serbia etc. It is in the consequence pure-racist and shows the true face of Dacic. It was years ago possible to declare Serbia independent and to avoid all the wars and problems. To come now with failed ideas shows a wrong understanding for history at all. Serbia doesnt know what is the own way.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Serbia could even have an agreement with Kosovo similar to the agreements the UK and Ireland have. Anyone born in Northern Ireland is entitled to Irish citizenship and an Irish Passport. Serbia could have it that anyone born in Kosovo is entitled to Serbian Citizenship and a Serbian Passport if they choose so.
(Ian, UK, 28 February 2013 15:57)

You have too much hope in your cyber friends for that to ever happen. The Albanian community as a whole in Kosovo i Metohija does not want anything to remain Serbian in the territory. This has been the general feelings and policy of the Albanians since communist Yugoslavia and that's not going to stop now.

kingz

pre 11 godina

How about Partition..of albanian populated region in the rest of serbia, macedonia, Montenegro....?
big loss for serbs just keep your mouth shut and recognize your Kosovo and focus on your economy

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, what a sloppy joke these politicians of Serbia are! First we have Serbia stating that we never will allow a Kosovar state? It went forward and was declared! Now, we have a Serbia that all of a sudden thinks partition of Kosova is the best option? It will never happen Serbia! In the very near future, you will see a Serbia saying take all of Presevo valley, but please leave Belgrade to Serbia?

Major Tom

pre 11 godina

what with it being a general election away from bankruptcy"

That's hilarious coming from an albanian space Aadet! always mixing up dreams with reality.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

I think the only solution would be for Serbia to recognise Kosovo south of the Ibar and fully integrate Northern Kosovo into Serbia. Then Serbia should demand for autonomy of the Serb enclaves and the Serbian Orthodox Chuch in Kosovo (similar to the Autonomy the Greek Orthodox Church has on Mount Athos), this way Serbs and the Serbian Orthodox Church can be self governing in Kosovo.

Serbia could even have an agreement with Kosovo similar to the agreements the UK and Ireland have. Anyone born in Northern Ireland is entitled to Irish citizenship and an Irish Passport. Serbia could have it that anyone born in Kosovo is entitled to Serbian Citizenship and a Serbian Passport if they choose so.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

They won't let me talk either about partition or separation any longer, although I still believe that is the best and only solution - in other words, the only one acceptable both for Serbs and Albanians," Dačić was quoted as saying.

'They wont let me'... said Dacic. I'm sure he will use this line during the next elections.

ben

pre 11 godina

Serbia wants R. Srpska in Kosova but does not allow a UN seat for Kosova.

So what is the compromise that Serbia is offering?????

they have some illegal structures in some villages in north and now they want them to be legalized via a deal with Prishitna.

And what do they offer in exchange??????

NOTHING.

International community needs now to be honest to Kosova and let deal with it's north as any sovereign country would have. North Kosova is internal problem of Kosova. Full stop.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

From 'Kosovo is Serbia' to "whatever we can get". Serbs, yep.
(Avni, 28 February 2013 14:25)

Still is my friend, to the vast majority of Serbs. Just because our prime minister has ties to criminals and is corrupt does not change that fact. And you can comment all you want on a Serbian website but what eats you up is that after all this time you still cannot physically have your way with Serbs in the north.

Mind you...local Serbs, without its own state backing them. Imagine the Serbian army. Yep.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"You will not get that, and if that is your bottom line demand then war is simply a more attractive option."

there there. serbia is in no position to fight anyone, what with it being a general election away from bankruptcy

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

He added that Serbia "did everything" by offering an association of Serb municipalities to be formed that would, according to him, "be a part of the Priština system".

This is unacceptable. Northern Kosovo i Metohija will obviously never be apart of that system because Pristina does not have the ability to physically control this part. The enclaves in the South should be made into 2-3 main settlements which are Serbian and governed by Serbs separately from Pristina. This and extra territorial status for the Churches is the only way forward. Serbia will still never let the KLA in the UN but the two peoples could live separate, segregated lives with their own realities.

This is the very most Serbia can compromise on. Anything else is unsustainable and will eventually lead to conflict. Basically, if the Albanians are not satisfied with letting this be the new solution then there should just be another war because wiping Serbs off the map is simply not an option that any respectable country would offer.

Remember it is not Serbs who want to rule over your population, but you wanting to rule over Serbs. You will not get that, and if that is your bottom line demand then war is simply a more attractive option.

V Berisha

pre 11 godina

Politicians lol. What the hell is the Prishtina system? WHAT IS IT IF NOT THE STATE OF KOSOVO, the serbian govenrment is trying to not recognize Kosovo while recognizing Kosovo.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, what a sloppy joke these politicians of Serbia are! First we have Serbia stating that we never will allow a Kosovar state? It went forward and was declared! Now, we have a Serbia that all of a sudden thinks partition of Kosova is the best option? It will never happen Serbia! In the very near future, you will see a Serbia saying take all of Presevo valley, but please leave Belgrade to Serbia?

V Berisha

pre 11 godina

Politicians lol. What the hell is the Prishtina system? WHAT IS IT IF NOT THE STATE OF KOSOVO, the serbian govenrment is trying to not recognize Kosovo while recognizing Kosovo.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"You will not get that, and if that is your bottom line demand then war is simply a more attractive option."

there there. serbia is in no position to fight anyone, what with it being a general election away from bankruptcy

ben

pre 11 godina

Serbia wants R. Srpska in Kosova but does not allow a UN seat for Kosova.

So what is the compromise that Serbia is offering?????

they have some illegal structures in some villages in north and now they want them to be legalized via a deal with Prishitna.

And what do they offer in exchange??????

NOTHING.

International community needs now to be honest to Kosova and let deal with it's north as any sovereign country would have. North Kosova is internal problem of Kosova. Full stop.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Avni- dont worry. We aint going nowhere. Kosovo has always been Serbian, and will be again. Count on it. We will wait a 1000 years if need be. Anyway, after the locals see what a mess you make of the place, they will be begging to come back. Now go cry to mummy for help.
(Aura, 28 February 2013 18:07)

In 100 years from now, the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

He added that Serbia "did everything" by offering an association of Serb municipalities to be formed that would, according to him, "be a part of the Priština system".

This is unacceptable. Northern Kosovo i Metohija will obviously never be apart of that system because Pristina does not have the ability to physically control this part. The enclaves in the South should be made into 2-3 main settlements which are Serbian and governed by Serbs separately from Pristina. This and extra territorial status for the Churches is the only way forward. Serbia will still never let the KLA in the UN but the two peoples could live separate, segregated lives with their own realities.

This is the very most Serbia can compromise on. Anything else is unsustainable and will eventually lead to conflict. Basically, if the Albanians are not satisfied with letting this be the new solution then there should just be another war because wiping Serbs off the map is simply not an option that any respectable country would offer.

Remember it is not Serbs who want to rule over your population, but you wanting to rule over Serbs. You will not get that, and if that is your bottom line demand then war is simply a more attractive option.

kingz

pre 11 godina

How about Partition..of albanian populated region in the rest of serbia, macedonia, Montenegro....?
big loss for serbs just keep your mouth shut and recognize your Kosovo and focus on your economy

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

From 'Kosovo is Serbia' to "whatever we can get". Serbs, yep.
(Avni, 28 February 2013 14:25)

Still is my friend, to the vast majority of Serbs. Just because our prime minister has ties to criminals and is corrupt does not change that fact. And you can comment all you want on a Serbian website but what eats you up is that after all this time you still cannot physically have your way with Serbs in the north.

Mind you...local Serbs, without its own state backing them. Imagine the Serbian army. Yep.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

They won't let me talk either about partition or separation any longer, although I still believe that is the best and only solution - in other words, the only one acceptable both for Serbs and Albanians," Dačić was quoted as saying.

'They wont let me'... said Dacic. I'm sure he will use this line during the next elections.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Serbia could even have an agreement with Kosovo similar to the agreements the UK and Ireland have. Anyone born in Northern Ireland is entitled to Irish citizenship and an Irish Passport. Serbia could have it that anyone born in Kosovo is entitled to Serbian Citizenship and a Serbian Passport if they choose so.
(Ian, UK, 28 February 2013 15:57)

You have too much hope in your cyber friends for that to ever happen. The Albanian community as a whole in Kosovo i Metohija does not want anything to remain Serbian in the territory. This has been the general feelings and policy of the Albanians since communist Yugoslavia and that's not going to stop now.

Major Tom

pre 11 godina

what with it being a general election away from bankruptcy"

That's hilarious coming from an albanian space Aadet! always mixing up dreams with reality.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Ian, autonomy does not mean safety for Serbs and you know it.
What happens to Serbs if Serbia says, ok now we recognise Kosovo or part of it and the international community leaves?
Do you think we are idiots and trust that our people will be ok there?

Besides, you don't reward theft of your property by giving a bit of it away just because the thief had help. You continue to hold onto the property legally and work on getting it back.

Aura

pre 11 godina

Avni- dont worry. We aint going nowhere. Kosovo has always been Serbian, and will be again. Count on it. We will wait a 1000 years if need be. Anyway, after the locals see what a mess you make of the place, they will be begging to come back. Now go cry to mummy for help.

Mark

pre 11 godina

PM believes partition is "best solution" for Kosovo.

True, partition of Serbia is even a better solution. Presevo goes to Kosovo,Vojvodina to Hungary and Sandzjak to Bosnia.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Solution, give back control of Kosovo to Serbia. Kick KFOR out of Kosovo and let EUELES oversee VS & Serbian police.

Persecute all Albanians for destroying Serbian property & churches/graves.

Stop Albanian mafia drug rings & human trafficking gangs in Kosovo.

Return Kosovo to being a sacred place.

Send all ex KLA terrorist members to Albania.

Don't listen anymore to whining Albanians and their stupid unrealistic demands, instead just slap them around a bit.

KOSOVA

pre 11 godina

Hashim Thaqi should be charged with treason... we are only giving what serbia wants and they offer nothing in return. We gave 10,000 lives for Kosova in a single year...we gave enough! Thaqi should step down!

Joe

pre 11 godina

"In 100 years from now the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian". Ardi, based upon demographic changes on the Balkans your prediction is fairly realistic. My best wishes for you!!!

Aura

pre 11 godina

Avni- .Well at least you admit it. Albanians are not using success and progress as their strategy, it's just to have more babies who grow up in poverty.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

I think the only solution would be for Serbia to recognise Kosovo south of the Ibar and fully integrate Northern Kosovo into Serbia. Then Serbia should demand for autonomy of the Serb enclaves and the Serbian Orthodox Chuch in Kosovo (similar to the Autonomy the Greek Orthodox Church has on Mount Athos), this way Serbs and the Serbian Orthodox Church can be self governing in Kosovo.

Serbia could even have an agreement with Kosovo similar to the agreements the UK and Ireland have. Anyone born in Northern Ireland is entitled to Irish citizenship and an Irish Passport. Serbia could have it that anyone born in Kosovo is entitled to Serbian Citizenship and a Serbian Passport if they choose so.

peter

pre 11 godina

The same that is happening to albanians in presevo valley

thats why i believe a good solution to this would be exchange of N.Kosovo for the populated area of the presevo valley.

winston

pre 11 godina

I promised I would not comment on Kosovo issues for two weeks, and I will not but, my comment is not a Kosovo issue. Whatever Mr. Dacic says, whatever his opinion, I say no! A man that was Milosevic's prodigy, a die-hard socialist that went whole-heartedly into the Balkan wars in the 90's, that now preaches compromise, well, f off. Get your fat rump out of Serbian politics, the Kosovo issue can wait. But you have no business in the resolution of the Kosovo issue at all. Be thankful you were not on the buddy seat with Slobodan on his flight to the Hague, where you should have been.

miri

pre 11 godina

Avni- .Well at least you admit it. Albanians are not using success and progress as their strategy, it's just to have more babies who grow up in poverty.
(Aura, 28 February 2013 20:47)

Pretty smart huh... What do you think?
We have all the fun and then we take the land.

(This theory always cracks me up!)

Mark

pre 11 godina

However, noted the prime minister, now even that is not enough, with the Kosovo Albanian side, i.e., Priština, demanding that such a future association not be given any powers, which he said was "unacceptable".

Why is that unacceptable for serbs in kosovo,but is acceptable for albanians in presevo valley?


"Serbia has had a fair approach, I don't know what else we could suggest, short of recognizing Kosovo and saying, 'nothing of ours is being taken into account, do what you please'. But, what will happen to our people in that case," wondered the prime minister.

The same that is happening to albanians in presevo valley.

bganon

pre 11 godina

For God's sake this idiot we have for a Prime Minister should know that any serious country has an official policy on one of its primary issues.

Either the official policy is Kosovo within Serbia or it is the division of Kosovo. If 'they' won't let him talk about partition then why is he talking about it? He did say one thing right 'he doesn't know' - what he's doing.

Then he says 'this is a key moment we must be united over what we are asking'....

Rick

pre 11 godina

Dacis is pomoting what he news will become true. In practice it would mean to seperate the mixed-families within Serbia etc. It is in the consequence pure-racist and shows the true face of Dacic. It was years ago possible to declare Serbia independent and to avoid all the wars and problems. To come now with failed ideas shows a wrong understanding for history at all. Serbia doesnt know what is the own way.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

In an ideal world borders in the Balkans should be drawn along ethnic lines. This would almost guarantee peace in the region.

Serbia, Kosovo and Croatia would expand. I don't know what would come of Bosnia but the situation there is dire as it is.

Macedonia would probably cease to desist. Who are Macedonians anyway?
Montenegro would also cease to desist and Serbia would become the biggest benefactor.

I don't see how MN will continue to exist for a long time considering that Montenegrins are not the majority and they continue to rule by manipulating the minorities there and creating inter-ethnic/religious hatred. Perhaps, they see Montenegrins as the lesser of the two evils and continue to vote for Mile considering the violent past of Serbs.

Although, it's just a pipe dream, I'm pretty sure Albanians and Croats would be open to the idea of exchanging land. I wonder how many Serbs would agree.

ben

pre 11 godina

In 100 years from now, the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian.
(Ardi Asllani, 28 February 2013 18:29)

My dear Ardi. What you just said is 100% compatible with the Serbian propaganda.

Serbian lies about Kosova are mainly two:
1. migration from Albania
2. huge natality

what they want people to forget is that natality is social and economical product not racial.

Until the 60s/70s the economic growth of Kosova and the rest of Serbia espcially with the south and central Serbia was the SAME. The natality was SAME.

During the 60s and 70s Yugo/Serbia directed the FDI towards the Serbian Jerusalem, the Serbian heart and souls: Serbia itself. Thus they built the car factory in Kragujevac, Serbia, not in the Serbian "Jerusalem" Decan.

These FDI improved the economic situation in Serbia but Kosova was left miserable and underdeveloped. Consequently many Kosovars migrated mainly in Western Europe. By the end of 80s the migration of Albanians brought the population growth level to the pre 70s or same as Serbian.

Now another myth: Kosova according to these same Serbian mega ignorants was supposed to reach by year 2000 about 3 million. Today Kosova has 1.7million.

Albania in 1998 had 3.8 million today has 3 million.

In 100 years the Balkans will speak same languages that is speaking today. And thanks God for that.

It will be very nice if we Albanians once and for all forget about this fake argument as it is fake, and it doesn't honour us at all.

T

pre 11 godina

Partition?? No way Pedro, as Dell Boy would say. Theoretically a good idea. Practically not workable.
Dacic, as a politician needs to be seen doing something, even if doing something is a complete waste of time.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Why do you come and slap me around? ? I dare you, no, I beg you to try!
(KOSOVA, 1 March 2013 00:39)
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You Albanians have been begging to be slapped around for a long time now and one day you will get your wish.

Now, Dacic is a complete moron and I can't understand how he has lasted for so long.
Is the situation in Serbia so desperate and not one quality politician is available to help the people?
How on earth did we get to this point? I don't see any reason for elections because whoever they elect isn't going to do any better.

How can people who have Serbia's interests first and foremost get into politics?

moris

pre 11 godina

It is a give and take situation.
For the moment Kosovo is not a real state and belongs to serbia according to the UN 1244 resolution.
So albanians just take for the moment.

icj1

pre 11 godina

How can people who have Serbia's interests first and foremost get into politics?
(Peggy, 1 March 2013 23:29)

Probably by returning to Serbia from Australia... It appears only the Serb diaspora (who does not live in Serbia) cares about Serbia's interests first and foremost :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

Kick KFOR out of Kosovo and let EUELES oversee VS & Serbian police.
(trizo, 28 February 2013 23:16)

Sure, but you need to convince Russia about that to change UNSCR 1244

Eric

pre 11 godina

I also believe separation is the best solution for Kosovo. I also believe separation of Macedonia is the best solution. I also believe separation presheva is the best solution and Montenegro. Albanians got nothing to lose but gain :))) lets do it

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

He added that Serbia "did everything" by offering an association of Serb municipalities to be formed that would, according to him, "be a part of the Priština system".

This is unacceptable. Northern Kosovo i Metohija will obviously never be apart of that system because Pristina does not have the ability to physically control this part. The enclaves in the South should be made into 2-3 main settlements which are Serbian and governed by Serbs separately from Pristina. This and extra territorial status for the Churches is the only way forward. Serbia will still never let the KLA in the UN but the two peoples could live separate, segregated lives with their own realities.

This is the very most Serbia can compromise on. Anything else is unsustainable and will eventually lead to conflict. Basically, if the Albanians are not satisfied with letting this be the new solution then there should just be another war because wiping Serbs off the map is simply not an option that any respectable country would offer.

Remember it is not Serbs who want to rule over your population, but you wanting to rule over Serbs. You will not get that, and if that is your bottom line demand then war is simply a more attractive option.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

From 'Kosovo is Serbia' to "whatever we can get". Serbs, yep.
(Avni, 28 February 2013 14:25)

Still is my friend, to the vast majority of Serbs. Just because our prime minister has ties to criminals and is corrupt does not change that fact. And you can comment all you want on a Serbian website but what eats you up is that after all this time you still cannot physically have your way with Serbs in the north.

Mind you...local Serbs, without its own state backing them. Imagine the Serbian army. Yep.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"You will not get that, and if that is your bottom line demand then war is simply a more attractive option."

there there. serbia is in no position to fight anyone, what with it being a general election away from bankruptcy

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

I think the only solution would be for Serbia to recognise Kosovo south of the Ibar and fully integrate Northern Kosovo into Serbia. Then Serbia should demand for autonomy of the Serb enclaves and the Serbian Orthodox Chuch in Kosovo (similar to the Autonomy the Greek Orthodox Church has on Mount Athos), this way Serbs and the Serbian Orthodox Church can be self governing in Kosovo.

Serbia could even have an agreement with Kosovo similar to the agreements the UK and Ireland have. Anyone born in Northern Ireland is entitled to Irish citizenship and an Irish Passport. Serbia could have it that anyone born in Kosovo is entitled to Serbian Citizenship and a Serbian Passport if they choose so.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, what a sloppy joke these politicians of Serbia are! First we have Serbia stating that we never will allow a Kosovar state? It went forward and was declared! Now, we have a Serbia that all of a sudden thinks partition of Kosova is the best option? It will never happen Serbia! In the very near future, you will see a Serbia saying take all of Presevo valley, but please leave Belgrade to Serbia?

trizo

pre 11 godina

Solution, give back control of Kosovo to Serbia. Kick KFOR out of Kosovo and let EUELES oversee VS & Serbian police.

Persecute all Albanians for destroying Serbian property & churches/graves.

Stop Albanian mafia drug rings & human trafficking gangs in Kosovo.

Return Kosovo to being a sacred place.

Send all ex KLA terrorist members to Albania.

Don't listen anymore to whining Albanians and their stupid unrealistic demands, instead just slap them around a bit.

V Berisha

pre 11 godina

Politicians lol. What the hell is the Prishtina system? WHAT IS IT IF NOT THE STATE OF KOSOVO, the serbian govenrment is trying to not recognize Kosovo while recognizing Kosovo.

Aura

pre 11 godina

Avni- dont worry. We aint going nowhere. Kosovo has always been Serbian, and will be again. Count on it. We will wait a 1000 years if need be. Anyway, after the locals see what a mess you make of the place, they will be begging to come back. Now go cry to mummy for help.

Major Tom

pre 11 godina

what with it being a general election away from bankruptcy"

That's hilarious coming from an albanian space Aadet! always mixing up dreams with reality.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Avni- dont worry. We aint going nowhere. Kosovo has always been Serbian, and will be again. Count on it. We will wait a 1000 years if need be. Anyway, after the locals see what a mess you make of the place, they will be begging to come back. Now go cry to mummy for help.
(Aura, 28 February 2013 18:07)

In 100 years from now, the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Ian, autonomy does not mean safety for Serbs and you know it.
What happens to Serbs if Serbia says, ok now we recognise Kosovo or part of it and the international community leaves?
Do you think we are idiots and trust that our people will be ok there?

Besides, you don't reward theft of your property by giving a bit of it away just because the thief had help. You continue to hold onto the property legally and work on getting it back.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Serbia could even have an agreement with Kosovo similar to the agreements the UK and Ireland have. Anyone born in Northern Ireland is entitled to Irish citizenship and an Irish Passport. Serbia could have it that anyone born in Kosovo is entitled to Serbian Citizenship and a Serbian Passport if they choose so.
(Ian, UK, 28 February 2013 15:57)

You have too much hope in your cyber friends for that to ever happen. The Albanian community as a whole in Kosovo i Metohija does not want anything to remain Serbian in the territory. This has been the general feelings and policy of the Albanians since communist Yugoslavia and that's not going to stop now.

kingz

pre 11 godina

How about Partition..of albanian populated region in the rest of serbia, macedonia, Montenegro....?
big loss for serbs just keep your mouth shut and recognize your Kosovo and focus on your economy

ben

pre 11 godina

Serbia wants R. Srpska in Kosova but does not allow a UN seat for Kosova.

So what is the compromise that Serbia is offering?????

they have some illegal structures in some villages in north and now they want them to be legalized via a deal with Prishitna.

And what do they offer in exchange??????

NOTHING.

International community needs now to be honest to Kosova and let deal with it's north as any sovereign country would have. North Kosova is internal problem of Kosova. Full stop.

Joe

pre 11 godina

"In 100 years from now the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian". Ardi, based upon demographic changes on the Balkans your prediction is fairly realistic. My best wishes for you!!!

KOSOVA

pre 11 godina

Hashim Thaqi should be charged with treason... we are only giving what serbia wants and they offer nothing in return. We gave 10,000 lives for Kosova in a single year...we gave enough! Thaqi should step down!

Mark

pre 11 godina

PM believes partition is "best solution" for Kosovo.

True, partition of Serbia is even a better solution. Presevo goes to Kosovo,Vojvodina to Hungary and Sandzjak to Bosnia.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

They won't let me talk either about partition or separation any longer, although I still believe that is the best and only solution - in other words, the only one acceptable both for Serbs and Albanians," Dačić was quoted as saying.

'They wont let me'... said Dacic. I'm sure he will use this line during the next elections.

peter

pre 11 godina

The same that is happening to albanians in presevo valley

thats why i believe a good solution to this would be exchange of N.Kosovo for the populated area of the presevo valley.

Mark

pre 11 godina

However, noted the prime minister, now even that is not enough, with the Kosovo Albanian side, i.e., Priština, demanding that such a future association not be given any powers, which he said was "unacceptable".

Why is that unacceptable for serbs in kosovo,but is acceptable for albanians in presevo valley?


"Serbia has had a fair approach, I don't know what else we could suggest, short of recognizing Kosovo and saying, 'nothing of ours is being taken into account, do what you please'. But, what will happen to our people in that case," wondered the prime minister.

The same that is happening to albanians in presevo valley.

Aura

pre 11 godina

Avni- .Well at least you admit it. Albanians are not using success and progress as their strategy, it's just to have more babies who grow up in poverty.

miri

pre 11 godina

Avni- .Well at least you admit it. Albanians are not using success and progress as their strategy, it's just to have more babies who grow up in poverty.
(Aura, 28 February 2013 20:47)

Pretty smart huh... What do you think?
We have all the fun and then we take the land.

(This theory always cracks me up!)

winston

pre 11 godina

I promised I would not comment on Kosovo issues for two weeks, and I will not but, my comment is not a Kosovo issue. Whatever Mr. Dacic says, whatever his opinion, I say no! A man that was Milosevic's prodigy, a die-hard socialist that went whole-heartedly into the Balkan wars in the 90's, that now preaches compromise, well, f off. Get your fat rump out of Serbian politics, the Kosovo issue can wait. But you have no business in the resolution of the Kosovo issue at all. Be thankful you were not on the buddy seat with Slobodan on his flight to the Hague, where you should have been.

Rick

pre 11 godina

Dacis is pomoting what he news will become true. In practice it would mean to seperate the mixed-families within Serbia etc. It is in the consequence pure-racist and shows the true face of Dacic. It was years ago possible to declare Serbia independent and to avoid all the wars and problems. To come now with failed ideas shows a wrong understanding for history at all. Serbia doesnt know what is the own way.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

In an ideal world borders in the Balkans should be drawn along ethnic lines. This would almost guarantee peace in the region.

Serbia, Kosovo and Croatia would expand. I don't know what would come of Bosnia but the situation there is dire as it is.

Macedonia would probably cease to desist. Who are Macedonians anyway?
Montenegro would also cease to desist and Serbia would become the biggest benefactor.

I don't see how MN will continue to exist for a long time considering that Montenegrins are not the majority and they continue to rule by manipulating the minorities there and creating inter-ethnic/religious hatred. Perhaps, they see Montenegrins as the lesser of the two evils and continue to vote for Mile considering the violent past of Serbs.

Although, it's just a pipe dream, I'm pretty sure Albanians and Croats would be open to the idea of exchanging land. I wonder how many Serbs would agree.

ben

pre 11 godina

In 100 years from now, the entire population in Belgrade will speak Albanian.
(Ardi Asllani, 28 February 2013 18:29)

My dear Ardi. What you just said is 100% compatible with the Serbian propaganda.

Serbian lies about Kosova are mainly two:
1. migration from Albania
2. huge natality

what they want people to forget is that natality is social and economical product not racial.

Until the 60s/70s the economic growth of Kosova and the rest of Serbia espcially with the south and central Serbia was the SAME. The natality was SAME.

During the 60s and 70s Yugo/Serbia directed the FDI towards the Serbian Jerusalem, the Serbian heart and souls: Serbia itself. Thus they built the car factory in Kragujevac, Serbia, not in the Serbian "Jerusalem" Decan.

These FDI improved the economic situation in Serbia but Kosova was left miserable and underdeveloped. Consequently many Kosovars migrated mainly in Western Europe. By the end of 80s the migration of Albanians brought the population growth level to the pre 70s or same as Serbian.

Now another myth: Kosova according to these same Serbian mega ignorants was supposed to reach by year 2000 about 3 million. Today Kosova has 1.7million.

Albania in 1998 had 3.8 million today has 3 million.

In 100 years the Balkans will speak same languages that is speaking today. And thanks God for that.

It will be very nice if we Albanians once and for all forget about this fake argument as it is fake, and it doesn't honour us at all.

moris

pre 11 godina

It is a give and take situation.
For the moment Kosovo is not a real state and belongs to serbia according to the UN 1244 resolution.
So albanians just take for the moment.

T

pre 11 godina

Partition?? No way Pedro, as Dell Boy would say. Theoretically a good idea. Practically not workable.
Dacic, as a politician needs to be seen doing something, even if doing something is a complete waste of time.

bganon

pre 11 godina

For God's sake this idiot we have for a Prime Minister should know that any serious country has an official policy on one of its primary issues.

Either the official policy is Kosovo within Serbia or it is the division of Kosovo. If 'they' won't let him talk about partition then why is he talking about it? He did say one thing right 'he doesn't know' - what he's doing.

Then he says 'this is a key moment we must be united over what we are asking'....

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Why do you come and slap me around? ? I dare you, no, I beg you to try!
(KOSOVA, 1 March 2013 00:39)
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You Albanians have been begging to be slapped around for a long time now and one day you will get your wish.

Now, Dacic is a complete moron and I can't understand how he has lasted for so long.
Is the situation in Serbia so desperate and not one quality politician is available to help the people?
How on earth did we get to this point? I don't see any reason for elections because whoever they elect isn't going to do any better.

How can people who have Serbia's interests first and foremost get into politics?

icj1

pre 11 godina

How can people who have Serbia's interests first and foremost get into politics?
(Peggy, 1 March 2013 23:29)

Probably by returning to Serbia from Australia... It appears only the Serb diaspora (who does not live in Serbia) cares about Serbia's interests first and foremost :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

Kick KFOR out of Kosovo and let EUELES oversee VS & Serbian police.
(trizo, 28 February 2013 23:16)

Sure, but you need to convince Russia about that to change UNSCR 1244

Eric

pre 11 godina

I also believe separation is the best solution for Kosovo. I also believe separation of Macedonia is the best solution. I also believe separation presheva is the best solution and Montenegro. Albanians got nothing to lose but gain :))) lets do it