Yellow Doorman
pre 11 godina
as he put it, "the international community" considers the issue of borders already solved and that Kosovo is "a state"
Well no sh** Sherlock!
Monday, 18.02.2013.
11:19
Aleksandar Vulin says that "Milošević, too, was called a traitor over Dayton, but the Serb Republic is now the guarantee of the survival of Serbs in Bosnia".
Izvor: B92
pre 11 godina
as he put it, "the international community" considers the issue of borders already solved and that Kosovo is "a state"
Well no sh** Sherlock!
pre 11 godina
(winston, 18 February 2013 17:39)
some of you Serbs are smart enough to put the mask of the moderate and transformed into liberals that have nothing to do with Milosevic as you did not live in that era.
But then you have idiots as the man in black and takes your masks down and exposes for what you really are- Milosevic is your benchmark in patriotism. So go complain to the miss-coordination of your machinery.
pre 11 godina
So vulin is comparing Kosovo to independent country Bosnia. More proof that this government is all about Kosovo independence and having Kosovo be like Bosnia with some Serb municipalities.
Are you blind or illiterate?He compares Kosovo to Republika Srpska and not to the bosnian federation. How stupid can you be?You see only what you want to see right?
pre 11 godina
According to him, Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija are now "the most unsafe people in Eeurope"
Yet they are still alive. You Serbs killed ten thousand Albanians.When we Albanians kill ten thousand and one Serbs than you might have some moral ground to start complaining. Serbs are the aggressors not the victims.
pre 11 godina
Bob,
Maybe you need to read my comment again. I always back up my comments with facts and truth, it seems that you can't handle the truth when someone calls out your inaccuracies.
It is because of people like you Bob, ignorant, incompetent, western 'analysts' who were giving advice to their governments, that thousands needlessly died and the Balkans is still a mess today. You are completely ignorant of Balkan history, and were hoodwinked to follow German policy and supported the destruction of Serbia, and the anti-Serb fascism by all of Hitler's former allies - Croats, Bosnian muslims, and albanians. I have strong disdain for people like you, and I am glad you are offended by me, and in fact offended by the truth. It says lots about you. You want to debate the issues? Any time, bring it on Bob. I will take you down with facts and truth every single time, that's a promise.
Cheers!!
pre 11 godina
"No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state."
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 February 2013 14:31)
Soon to be 99, soon to be 99:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20130217/179527355.html
Apparently they think Sarajevo is in Kosovo at RIA Novosti but hey, nobody's perfect.
Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock...
pre 11 godina
Vulin also noted that there were no parallel institutions but only Serbian institutions formed in line with UN Security Council Resolution 1244.
I don't know if this statement is straight propaganda or words of a clown (WOC) because r1244 abolished all institutions and sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) and hence r1244 stipulates:
UNMIK (is) to establish provisional institutions of local self-government in Kosovo (PISG).
pre 11 godina
Dragan
Can you please depersonalise your writing - I am not a crackpot and I have lived through considerable experiences in Serbia through the terrible period in the 90s and the rather better times since.
Please mind your rather bad manners when you write and show a bit more maturity in your attempts at debate.
Just throwing insults is not a structured argument. Even if it does make you feel happier inside, it makes you look foolish and abusive. It's a bit like what happened to Serbia under Milosevic - internally the arguments appeared to make sense, but to the outside world it looked aggressive and so engendered rejection and isolation.
As for Milosevic being misunderstood - don't you believe it! We know what he said, but we also know that he was the source of much corruption.
pre 11 godina
Is Vulin trying to say that Sloba was good? What about Croatia's Serbs?
pre 11 godina
No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state.
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 February 2013 14:31)
That's the MAJORITY of the international community. If your standard is the UNANIMITY of the international community, good luck with that - it will be hard to find any state at all (even Serbia would not be a state) :)
But, certainly, Serbia is free to apply the UNANIMITY standard and only consider itself a state when the UNANIMITY of the international community recognizes it as such.
pre 11 godina
Winston,
You sound immature.
Sloba is a hero in the minds and heart of many Serbs.
Had his agenda been successful he woud've been imortalized by the Serbs.
But, since he wasn't he became a scape goat.
It's easy to refer to him now as a commie. But, where were you when he went on a murderous rampage?
Nowhere, because you liked what he was about.
There are many Slobas in Serbia.
How many Chetnicks do you think would love to send troops to Kosovo?
Your country if filled with peace loving groups like Dveri, 1389, etc.
So, stop kidding around. You sound like a little kid.
pre 11 godina
Milosevic was a traitor, any intelligent Serb knows this. He abandoned the Serbs in Krajina thus allowing the Croats to take it, and he betrayed the Kosovo Serbs when he withdrew the military, leaving Serbian people to bloodthirsty cowardly albanian terrorists. The only reason Republika Srpska exists is bcause of Karadzic and Mladic, and the people of RS who refuse to let it go. If there was a true patriot in office during the 90s Serbia's borders would be a lot larger and Serbian people in Kosovo wouldn't be living in terror.
pre 11 godina
So Dragan rips Bob's comment (and a very good comment from Bob, by the way), and at the same time, somehow manages to echo it in his own remarks. Now that, ladies and gentlemen, takes talent.
pre 11 godina
So vulin is comparing Kosovo to independent country Bosnia. More proof that this government is all about Kosovo independence and having Kosovo be like Bosnia with some Serb municipalities. The Serbia constitution says Kosovo is a part of Serbia not an independent nation like Bosnia!
pre 11 godina
Bob, very well put. Your comment is "spot on" as the Brits would say. Milosevic is spoken more of by the Albanians, than the Serbs. His era was a dark one for Serbia, on we have moved on from.
pre 11 godina
Oh, Ben, shut up already with your daily anti-Serb rants. I live in Serbia, I do not hear anyone glorifying Milosevic, quite the contrary. So you, an Albanian, are going to tell the world who Serbs honor and praise? Milosevic's era was a destructive time for Serbia, but it was a destructive time for the rest of Yugoslavia too. I am convinced that that is what the West wanted, for they certainly facilitated in its break up. The citizens of Serbia would love to see the Milosevic era politicians out of politics, but their cling on power is strong, and it will not be easy to oust them, but the will come. So please, stop the Serb bashing, it does no one good, not even Albanians. But maybe Ben, you should try and help your brothers in Kosovo get rid some of the narco-bosses that operate out of Pristina's government? That would be better for Albanians, than who Serbs celebrate.
pre 11 godina
Here we have Bob again rambling on about his obsession, Milosevic. Bob this obsession is not healthy. Also, just to point out how clueless you and other western analysts are, Milosevic was not even a nationalist! He was a typical Titoist commie traitor who was telling Kosovo Serbs to live with albanians, preaching 'brotherhood and unity' BS until the camera caught him telling a Kosovo Serb that nobody is going to beat him any more. He was accidentally then catapulted to the top And praised as a saviour of Serbs by the public just for this statement - he took this opportunity to gain power and ran with it. He was never a real patriot, he betrayed Serbs in Krajina and In Bosnia, And needlessly drew a border on the Drina river. The fact that crackpots like you, and The mainstream media, continue to refer to him as a nationalist just shows how uneducated, ignorant, and out of touch you all are. You're a bunch of unprofessional lazy hacks.
Cheers!!
pre 11 godina
Official says "Milošević was also called traitor"
Does this mean that he was a patriot? Oh my God!
I wonder what will happen if somebody in Germany, calls Hitler a patriot?
pre 11 godina
Albo mafia did not stop war in Kosovo.
pre 11 godina
"because, as he put it, "the international community" considers the issue of borders already solved and that Kosovo is "a state":"
No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state.
pre 11 godina
"Milošević, too, was called a traitor"
and he is your #1 patriot... your benchmark... a Serbian top of the range patriot.. uber-Serbian
and you Serbs still want to get more form the EU while I wonder how the hell you got so much as you have changed nothing since Milosevic's times and you still take him for a good example in patriotism.
pre 11 godina
Don't these Serbs have anything to do? Apparently they're to spend their lives crying over a piece of land that never was theirs. This really makes me happy to see them not being able to move on. Hahahahahaha
pre 11 godina
Early on Milosevic bought tanks on to the streets against his own people.
He created mafiosi organisations throughout the government chain. He bought corruption to business and politics. His family were corrupt.
He played the nationalist card to take and keep power. His politics - as in a lot of small countries - depended on having an enemy. In this case he had plenty and still made more. He played the people to keep in power.
Many said he was clever - he was - at keeping himself in power for too long.
His banana republic style of politics was incompetent and ineffective in winning the friends Serbia needed. Early on he planned and created the war in Bosnia - he could have negotiated but instead caused violence. Milosevic was a traitor to Serbia, not because of Dayton, but because of his whole line of politics that made Serbia become viewed as a pariah state.
He cheated or attempted to cheat votes - until Serbs themselves stood up and said they had had enough of him - even then he had to be levered out of power by on-street demonstrations.
pre 11 godina
Alexander Vulin says:
"We wish to have Serbs who are in complete connection with Serbia, against which apartheid and genocide cannot be perpetrated", as well as;
"Milošević, too, was called a traitor over Dayton, but the Serb Republic is now the guarantee of the survival of Serbs in Bosnia".
Milosevic ordered genocidal acts against the Albanian population in Kosovo and his militias terrorized muslims, croats, bosniaks and opponents of his regime all around the Balkans. He gave the US an excuse to bomb Belgrade and other parts of Serbia. It is exactly because of Milosevic' thoughtless and inexcusable acts everywhere and his betrayal of the Dayton accord that this province has now been lost to Serbia forever. Yes, you're right to say that Serbs need to be protected. Of course! But Don't speak of Milosevic as a hero, he was Serbia's nemesis and good riddance!
pre 11 godina
RS is reality and the sooner croats and bosnians realize this the better off they will be. Heck, I think RS should teach croats and their lapdogs the bosnians how to be a success. RS is moving forward but the 'federation of idiots' is draging behind. Croats in Bosnia want what serb there have. Freedom! 20 years of a free Serbian republic. Life is good.
pre 11 godina
What planet are Serbs and their leadership from certainly not from earth o ya "heavenly people". Oxygen deprived brain cells dead with their heads so high in the heavens ,earth to Serbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0sb1SZxCAs LOL.
pre 11 godina
Don't these Serbs have anything to do? Apparently they're to spend their lives crying over a piece of land that never was theirs. This really makes me happy to see them not being able to move on. Hahahahahaha
pre 11 godina
What planet are Serbs and their leadership from certainly not from earth o ya "heavenly people". Oxygen deprived brain cells dead with their heads so high in the heavens ,earth to Serbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0sb1SZxCAs LOL.
pre 11 godina
Early on Milosevic bought tanks on to the streets against his own people.
He created mafiosi organisations throughout the government chain. He bought corruption to business and politics. His family were corrupt.
He played the nationalist card to take and keep power. His politics - as in a lot of small countries - depended on having an enemy. In this case he had plenty and still made more. He played the people to keep in power.
Many said he was clever - he was - at keeping himself in power for too long.
His banana republic style of politics was incompetent and ineffective in winning the friends Serbia needed. Early on he planned and created the war in Bosnia - he could have negotiated but instead caused violence. Milosevic was a traitor to Serbia, not because of Dayton, but because of his whole line of politics that made Serbia become viewed as a pariah state.
He cheated or attempted to cheat votes - until Serbs themselves stood up and said they had had enough of him - even then he had to be levered out of power by on-street demonstrations.
pre 11 godina
"Milošević, too, was called a traitor"
and he is your #1 patriot... your benchmark... a Serbian top of the range patriot.. uber-Serbian
and you Serbs still want to get more form the EU while I wonder how the hell you got so much as you have changed nothing since Milosevic's times and you still take him for a good example in patriotism.
pre 11 godina
Alexander Vulin says:
"We wish to have Serbs who are in complete connection with Serbia, against which apartheid and genocide cannot be perpetrated", as well as;
"Milošević, too, was called a traitor over Dayton, but the Serb Republic is now the guarantee of the survival of Serbs in Bosnia".
Milosevic ordered genocidal acts against the Albanian population in Kosovo and his militias terrorized muslims, croats, bosniaks and opponents of his regime all around the Balkans. He gave the US an excuse to bomb Belgrade and other parts of Serbia. It is exactly because of Milosevic' thoughtless and inexcusable acts everywhere and his betrayal of the Dayton accord that this province has now been lost to Serbia forever. Yes, you're right to say that Serbs need to be protected. Of course! But Don't speak of Milosevic as a hero, he was Serbia's nemesis and good riddance!
pre 11 godina
RS is reality and the sooner croats and bosnians realize this the better off they will be. Heck, I think RS should teach croats and their lapdogs the bosnians how to be a success. RS is moving forward but the 'federation of idiots' is draging behind. Croats in Bosnia want what serb there have. Freedom! 20 years of a free Serbian republic. Life is good.
pre 11 godina
Here we have Bob again rambling on about his obsession, Milosevic. Bob this obsession is not healthy. Also, just to point out how clueless you and other western analysts are, Milosevic was not even a nationalist! He was a typical Titoist commie traitor who was telling Kosovo Serbs to live with albanians, preaching 'brotherhood and unity' BS until the camera caught him telling a Kosovo Serb that nobody is going to beat him any more. He was accidentally then catapulted to the top And praised as a saviour of Serbs by the public just for this statement - he took this opportunity to gain power and ran with it. He was never a real patriot, he betrayed Serbs in Krajina and In Bosnia, And needlessly drew a border on the Drina river. The fact that crackpots like you, and The mainstream media, continue to refer to him as a nationalist just shows how uneducated, ignorant, and out of touch you all are. You're a bunch of unprofessional lazy hacks.
Cheers!!
pre 11 godina
Official says "Milošević was also called traitor"
Does this mean that he was a patriot? Oh my God!
I wonder what will happen if somebody in Germany, calls Hitler a patriot?
pre 11 godina
"because, as he put it, "the international community" considers the issue of borders already solved and that Kosovo is "a state":"
No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state.
pre 11 godina
Oh, Ben, shut up already with your daily anti-Serb rants. I live in Serbia, I do not hear anyone glorifying Milosevic, quite the contrary. So you, an Albanian, are going to tell the world who Serbs honor and praise? Milosevic's era was a destructive time for Serbia, but it was a destructive time for the rest of Yugoslavia too. I am convinced that that is what the West wanted, for they certainly facilitated in its break up. The citizens of Serbia would love to see the Milosevic era politicians out of politics, but their cling on power is strong, and it will not be easy to oust them, but the will come. So please, stop the Serb bashing, it does no one good, not even Albanians. But maybe Ben, you should try and help your brothers in Kosovo get rid some of the narco-bosses that operate out of Pristina's government? That would be better for Albanians, than who Serbs celebrate.
pre 11 godina
Bob, very well put. Your comment is "spot on" as the Brits would say. Milosevic is spoken more of by the Albanians, than the Serbs. His era was a dark one for Serbia, on we have moved on from.
pre 11 godina
Dragan
Can you please depersonalise your writing - I am not a crackpot and I have lived through considerable experiences in Serbia through the terrible period in the 90s and the rather better times since.
Please mind your rather bad manners when you write and show a bit more maturity in your attempts at debate.
Just throwing insults is not a structured argument. Even if it does make you feel happier inside, it makes you look foolish and abusive. It's a bit like what happened to Serbia under Milosevic - internally the arguments appeared to make sense, but to the outside world it looked aggressive and so engendered rejection and isolation.
As for Milosevic being misunderstood - don't you believe it! We know what he said, but we also know that he was the source of much corruption.
pre 11 godina
Albo mafia did not stop war in Kosovo.
pre 11 godina
Milosevic was a traitor, any intelligent Serb knows this. He abandoned the Serbs in Krajina thus allowing the Croats to take it, and he betrayed the Kosovo Serbs when he withdrew the military, leaving Serbian people to bloodthirsty cowardly albanian terrorists. The only reason Republika Srpska exists is bcause of Karadzic and Mladic, and the people of RS who refuse to let it go. If there was a true patriot in office during the 90s Serbia's borders would be a lot larger and Serbian people in Kosovo wouldn't be living in terror.
pre 11 godina
So vulin is comparing Kosovo to independent country Bosnia. More proof that this government is all about Kosovo independence and having Kosovo be like Bosnia with some Serb municipalities. The Serbia constitution says Kosovo is a part of Serbia not an independent nation like Bosnia!
pre 11 godina
So Dragan rips Bob's comment (and a very good comment from Bob, by the way), and at the same time, somehow manages to echo it in his own remarks. Now that, ladies and gentlemen, takes talent.
pre 11 godina
Winston,
You sound immature.
Sloba is a hero in the minds and heart of many Serbs.
Had his agenda been successful he woud've been imortalized by the Serbs.
But, since he wasn't he became a scape goat.
It's easy to refer to him now as a commie. But, where were you when he went on a murderous rampage?
Nowhere, because you liked what he was about.
There are many Slobas in Serbia.
How many Chetnicks do you think would love to send troops to Kosovo?
Your country if filled with peace loving groups like Dveri, 1389, etc.
So, stop kidding around. You sound like a little kid.
pre 11 godina
Is Vulin trying to say that Sloba was good? What about Croatia's Serbs?
pre 11 godina
No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state.
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 February 2013 14:31)
That's the MAJORITY of the international community. If your standard is the UNANIMITY of the international community, good luck with that - it will be hard to find any state at all (even Serbia would not be a state) :)
But, certainly, Serbia is free to apply the UNANIMITY standard and only consider itself a state when the UNANIMITY of the international community recognizes it as such.
pre 11 godina
Bob,
Maybe you need to read my comment again. I always back up my comments with facts and truth, it seems that you can't handle the truth when someone calls out your inaccuracies.
It is because of people like you Bob, ignorant, incompetent, western 'analysts' who were giving advice to their governments, that thousands needlessly died and the Balkans is still a mess today. You are completely ignorant of Balkan history, and were hoodwinked to follow German policy and supported the destruction of Serbia, and the anti-Serb fascism by all of Hitler's former allies - Croats, Bosnian muslims, and albanians. I have strong disdain for people like you, and I am glad you are offended by me, and in fact offended by the truth. It says lots about you. You want to debate the issues? Any time, bring it on Bob. I will take you down with facts and truth every single time, that's a promise.
Cheers!!
pre 11 godina
According to him, Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija are now "the most unsafe people in Eeurope"
Yet they are still alive. You Serbs killed ten thousand Albanians.When we Albanians kill ten thousand and one Serbs than you might have some moral ground to start complaining. Serbs are the aggressors not the victims.
pre 11 godina
"No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state."
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 February 2013 14:31)
Soon to be 99, soon to be 99:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20130217/179527355.html
Apparently they think Sarajevo is in Kosovo at RIA Novosti but hey, nobody's perfect.
Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock...
pre 11 godina
So vulin is comparing Kosovo to independent country Bosnia. More proof that this government is all about Kosovo independence and having Kosovo be like Bosnia with some Serb municipalities.
Are you blind or illiterate?He compares Kosovo to Republika Srpska and not to the bosnian federation. How stupid can you be?You see only what you want to see right?
pre 11 godina
(winston, 18 February 2013 17:39)
some of you Serbs are smart enough to put the mask of the moderate and transformed into liberals that have nothing to do with Milosevic as you did not live in that era.
But then you have idiots as the man in black and takes your masks down and exposes for what you really are- Milosevic is your benchmark in patriotism. So go complain to the miss-coordination of your machinery.
pre 11 godina
Vulin also noted that there were no parallel institutions but only Serbian institutions formed in line with UN Security Council Resolution 1244.
I don't know if this statement is straight propaganda or words of a clown (WOC) because r1244 abolished all institutions and sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) and hence r1244 stipulates:
UNMIK (is) to establish provisional institutions of local self-government in Kosovo (PISG).
pre 11 godina
as he put it, "the international community" considers the issue of borders already solved and that Kosovo is "a state"
Well no sh** Sherlock!
pre 11 godina
Don't these Serbs have anything to do? Apparently they're to spend their lives crying over a piece of land that never was theirs. This really makes me happy to see them not being able to move on. Hahahahahaha
pre 11 godina
What planet are Serbs and their leadership from certainly not from earth o ya "heavenly people". Oxygen deprived brain cells dead with their heads so high in the heavens ,earth to Serbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0sb1SZxCAs LOL.
pre 11 godina
RS is reality and the sooner croats and bosnians realize this the better off they will be. Heck, I think RS should teach croats and their lapdogs the bosnians how to be a success. RS is moving forward but the 'federation of idiots' is draging behind. Croats in Bosnia want what serb there have. Freedom! 20 years of a free Serbian republic. Life is good.
pre 11 godina
"Milošević, too, was called a traitor"
and he is your #1 patriot... your benchmark... a Serbian top of the range patriot.. uber-Serbian
and you Serbs still want to get more form the EU while I wonder how the hell you got so much as you have changed nothing since Milosevic's times and you still take him for a good example in patriotism.
pre 11 godina
Alexander Vulin says:
"We wish to have Serbs who are in complete connection with Serbia, against which apartheid and genocide cannot be perpetrated", as well as;
"Milošević, too, was called a traitor over Dayton, but the Serb Republic is now the guarantee of the survival of Serbs in Bosnia".
Milosevic ordered genocidal acts against the Albanian population in Kosovo and his militias terrorized muslims, croats, bosniaks and opponents of his regime all around the Balkans. He gave the US an excuse to bomb Belgrade and other parts of Serbia. It is exactly because of Milosevic' thoughtless and inexcusable acts everywhere and his betrayal of the Dayton accord that this province has now been lost to Serbia forever. Yes, you're right to say that Serbs need to be protected. Of course! But Don't speak of Milosevic as a hero, he was Serbia's nemesis and good riddance!
pre 11 godina
Early on Milosevic bought tanks on to the streets against his own people.
He created mafiosi organisations throughout the government chain. He bought corruption to business and politics. His family were corrupt.
He played the nationalist card to take and keep power. His politics - as in a lot of small countries - depended on having an enemy. In this case he had plenty and still made more. He played the people to keep in power.
Many said he was clever - he was - at keeping himself in power for too long.
His banana republic style of politics was incompetent and ineffective in winning the friends Serbia needed. Early on he planned and created the war in Bosnia - he could have negotiated but instead caused violence. Milosevic was a traitor to Serbia, not because of Dayton, but because of his whole line of politics that made Serbia become viewed as a pariah state.
He cheated or attempted to cheat votes - until Serbs themselves stood up and said they had had enough of him - even then he had to be levered out of power by on-street demonstrations.
pre 11 godina
Official says "Milošević was also called traitor"
Does this mean that he was a patriot? Oh my God!
I wonder what will happen if somebody in Germany, calls Hitler a patriot?
pre 11 godina
"because, as he put it, "the international community" considers the issue of borders already solved and that Kosovo is "a state":"
No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state.
pre 11 godina
Albo mafia did not stop war in Kosovo.
pre 11 godina
Here we have Bob again rambling on about his obsession, Milosevic. Bob this obsession is not healthy. Also, just to point out how clueless you and other western analysts are, Milosevic was not even a nationalist! He was a typical Titoist commie traitor who was telling Kosovo Serbs to live with albanians, preaching 'brotherhood and unity' BS until the camera caught him telling a Kosovo Serb that nobody is going to beat him any more. He was accidentally then catapulted to the top And praised as a saviour of Serbs by the public just for this statement - he took this opportunity to gain power and ran with it. He was never a real patriot, he betrayed Serbs in Krajina and In Bosnia, And needlessly drew a border on the Drina river. The fact that crackpots like you, and The mainstream media, continue to refer to him as a nationalist just shows how uneducated, ignorant, and out of touch you all are. You're a bunch of unprofessional lazy hacks.
Cheers!!
pre 11 godina
Milosevic was a traitor, any intelligent Serb knows this. He abandoned the Serbs in Krajina thus allowing the Croats to take it, and he betrayed the Kosovo Serbs when he withdrew the military, leaving Serbian people to bloodthirsty cowardly albanian terrorists. The only reason Republika Srpska exists is bcause of Karadzic and Mladic, and the people of RS who refuse to let it go. If there was a true patriot in office during the 90s Serbia's borders would be a lot larger and Serbian people in Kosovo wouldn't be living in terror.
pre 11 godina
Bob, very well put. Your comment is "spot on" as the Brits would say. Milosevic is spoken more of by the Albanians, than the Serbs. His era was a dark one for Serbia, on we have moved on from.
pre 11 godina
Winston,
You sound immature.
Sloba is a hero in the minds and heart of many Serbs.
Had his agenda been successful he woud've been imortalized by the Serbs.
But, since he wasn't he became a scape goat.
It's easy to refer to him now as a commie. But, where were you when he went on a murderous rampage?
Nowhere, because you liked what he was about.
There are many Slobas in Serbia.
How many Chetnicks do you think would love to send troops to Kosovo?
Your country if filled with peace loving groups like Dveri, 1389, etc.
So, stop kidding around. You sound like a little kid.
pre 11 godina
So vulin is comparing Kosovo to independent country Bosnia. More proof that this government is all about Kosovo independence and having Kosovo be like Bosnia with some Serb municipalities. The Serbia constitution says Kosovo is a part of Serbia not an independent nation like Bosnia!
pre 11 godina
Dragan
Can you please depersonalise your writing - I am not a crackpot and I have lived through considerable experiences in Serbia through the terrible period in the 90s and the rather better times since.
Please mind your rather bad manners when you write and show a bit more maturity in your attempts at debate.
Just throwing insults is not a structured argument. Even if it does make you feel happier inside, it makes you look foolish and abusive. It's a bit like what happened to Serbia under Milosevic - internally the arguments appeared to make sense, but to the outside world it looked aggressive and so engendered rejection and isolation.
As for Milosevic being misunderstood - don't you believe it! We know what he said, but we also know that he was the source of much corruption.
pre 11 godina
Oh, Ben, shut up already with your daily anti-Serb rants. I live in Serbia, I do not hear anyone glorifying Milosevic, quite the contrary. So you, an Albanian, are going to tell the world who Serbs honor and praise? Milosevic's era was a destructive time for Serbia, but it was a destructive time for the rest of Yugoslavia too. I am convinced that that is what the West wanted, for they certainly facilitated in its break up. The citizens of Serbia would love to see the Milosevic era politicians out of politics, but their cling on power is strong, and it will not be easy to oust them, but the will come. So please, stop the Serb bashing, it does no one good, not even Albanians. But maybe Ben, you should try and help your brothers in Kosovo get rid some of the narco-bosses that operate out of Pristina's government? That would be better for Albanians, than who Serbs celebrate.
pre 11 godina
Bob,
Maybe you need to read my comment again. I always back up my comments with facts and truth, it seems that you can't handle the truth when someone calls out your inaccuracies.
It is because of people like you Bob, ignorant, incompetent, western 'analysts' who were giving advice to their governments, that thousands needlessly died and the Balkans is still a mess today. You are completely ignorant of Balkan history, and were hoodwinked to follow German policy and supported the destruction of Serbia, and the anti-Serb fascism by all of Hitler's former allies - Croats, Bosnian muslims, and albanians. I have strong disdain for people like you, and I am glad you are offended by me, and in fact offended by the truth. It says lots about you. You want to debate the issues? Any time, bring it on Bob. I will take you down with facts and truth every single time, that's a promise.
Cheers!!
pre 11 godina
So Dragan rips Bob's comment (and a very good comment from Bob, by the way), and at the same time, somehow manages to echo it in his own remarks. Now that, ladies and gentlemen, takes talent.
pre 11 godina
No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state.
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 February 2013 14:31)
That's the MAJORITY of the international community. If your standard is the UNANIMITY of the international community, good luck with that - it will be hard to find any state at all (even Serbia would not be a state) :)
But, certainly, Serbia is free to apply the UNANIMITY standard and only consider itself a state when the UNANIMITY of the international community recognizes it as such.
pre 11 godina
Is Vulin trying to say that Sloba was good? What about Croatia's Serbs?
pre 11 godina
According to him, Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija are now "the most unsafe people in Eeurope"
Yet they are still alive. You Serbs killed ten thousand Albanians.When we Albanians kill ten thousand and one Serbs than you might have some moral ground to start complaining. Serbs are the aggressors not the victims.
pre 11 godina
So vulin is comparing Kosovo to independent country Bosnia. More proof that this government is all about Kosovo independence and having Kosovo be like Bosnia with some Serb municipalities.
Are you blind or illiterate?He compares Kosovo to Republika Srpska and not to the bosnian federation. How stupid can you be?You see only what you want to see right?
pre 11 godina
(winston, 18 February 2013 17:39)
some of you Serbs are smart enough to put the mask of the moderate and transformed into liberals that have nothing to do with Milosevic as you did not live in that era.
But then you have idiots as the man in black and takes your masks down and exposes for what you really are- Milosevic is your benchmark in patriotism. So go complain to the miss-coordination of your machinery.
pre 11 godina
"No, not the 'international community', but 98 UN states consider Kosovo a state."
(Comm. Parrisson, 18 February 2013 14:31)
Soon to be 99, soon to be 99:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20130217/179527355.html
Apparently they think Sarajevo is in Kosovo at RIA Novosti but hey, nobody's perfect.
Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock...
pre 11 godina
Vulin also noted that there were no parallel institutions but only Serbian institutions formed in line with UN Security Council Resolution 1244.
I don't know if this statement is straight propaganda or words of a clown (WOC) because r1244 abolished all institutions and sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) and hence r1244 stipulates:
UNMIK (is) to establish provisional institutions of local self-government in Kosovo (PISG).
pre 11 godina
as he put it, "the international community" considers the issue of borders already solved and that Kosovo is "a state"
Well no sh** Sherlock!
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