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Cyrillic alphabet will be introduced, Croatian PM says

Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović says rights of ethnic minorities must be respected and that the Cyrillic alphabet will be introduced in the town of Vukovar.

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Velebit

pre 11 godina

"A tempest in a teapot"- is an understandable comment of the uninitiated- those who know very little about the historical tensions between Serbs and Croats and who especially know even less about the role of Vukovar in the Homeland War. To dismiss this issue as a trifling matter is to discount the reality of the situation there - there is no mingling of the two races there today because there was no reconciliation between the two. In order to "move on" you have to have a common starting point, you have to have some sort of "truth and reconciliation" process to assess what crimes of war were committed and by whom and then mete out some justice. Unfortunately,this was never undertaken, so yes, today you have the "alleged" criminals living side by side to the victims of their crimes. Is this justice? Is this a basis of trust from which to build a better future? No, it is not! and some of the previous comments to this article testify to the truth of my position- not one comment that accepts responsibility for the barbarity and inhumanity that took place there!

Peggy

pre 11 godina

. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!
(Ron, 17 February 2013 19:18)
================

How does this make us equals?

http://info.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20070702gc.html

This is not written by a Serb but by an Australian.

Here is a little more information for you and when you have finished reading it, then tell us if you think we are all the same.

http://de-construct.net/?p=327

Please do read it and you will see that Serbs had to defend themselves from the old enemies who once again wanted to exterminate them.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!
(Ron, 17 February 2013 19:18)
================

How does this make us equals?

http://info.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20070702gc.html

This is not written by a Serb but by an Australian.

Here is a little more information for you and when you have finished reading it, then tell us if you think we are all the same.

http://de-construct.net/?p=327

Please do read it and you will see that Serbs had to defend themselves from the old enemies who once again wanted to exterminate them.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Ron- you should read up on Balkan history and see the horrific things the Croats did then you would certainly understand Serbias point of view
(Stan, 17 February 2013 11:21)

Croations did horrific things. Serbs did horrific things. Muslims did horrific things.
But please look to the future. Learn to live togeter. Learn to appreciate each other. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, there is nothing that Albanians and Serbs cannot argue about. Is it tomato or tomaato?
(winston, 16 February 2013 18:09)

I really don't understand, what's the matter in this article to argue about. This article is about Europan cultural heritage (Croatians, Serbs, Cyrillic writing) - but these Albanians here have nothing to do with the culture. This article is totally unrelated to them.

Stan

pre 11 godina

Ron- you should read up on Balkan history and see the horrific things the Croats did then you would certainly understand Serbias point of view

don't drink and drive!

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, there is nothing that Albanians and Serbs cannot argue about. Is it tomato or tomaato?
(winston, 16 February 2013 18:09)

It's tomata.

TP

pre 11 godina

I agree with Ron and Michael Thomas. Serbs and Croats are not simply similar, they are the same, closer ethnically (whatever that really means) than the people of North and South England, and linguistically closer than UK and US English.

And yes you are right, Thomas, Croats did not fight against the real aggressors in 1991, they fought with them - Western interests at the expense of hundreds of thousands of Yugoslav people.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Respect for this party and person.
Croatia must fully respect minorities' right. Same for Serbia of course.
Personally I do not understand the hate between Serbs and Croats. For people from outside the Balkan they are VERY simular!

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

“Croatia did not fight against the Cyrillic script but against aggressors,” Milanović added.

You fought against loyal Yugoslavs. You are a traitor to your nation and would be punished if you tried the same in any western country.

Lazar

pre 11 godina

Kosovo has nothing to do with any of this, as for Nikolle, I guess he's just saying that the more scripts/languages the better. Nothing controversial there, it's his opinion, and we should respect it even if it is something different... as long as he does not have bad intentions and indeed I think he does not.

winston

pre 11 godina

Good idea, Nikolle, then the little Albanian angels will know which graves are Serbian, by the cyrillic, and can destroy them without wondering of they are Albanian graves. One of the few time I have agreed with you.

alb.

pre 11 godina

(Robert1899, 16 February 2013 14:22)
maybe it is learnt by the serbian students in the cities where serbs are majority like gracanica , sterpce , and northern kosovo but not by us albanians ,in our schools we learn albanian , english (obligatory) and chose then between latin , german and french (depending on what direction we study and which one we chose , but these are available).

Introducing serbo-croatian to schools is not on plan and won`t be since the interest to learn these languages is around 0. Frankly I`d prefer other more spread and useful languages than srb-cro.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"not to Albanian students it isn't. perhaps you want to reread my post. i wrote i'd make it available to Albanian students. its very obviously taught to serbs"
(Nikolle, 16 February 2013 14:41)

That's the 'multi-ethnic and democratic Kosovo'. Isn't it absurd that under Milosevic (the early years at least) both languages were taught at school?

Ataman

pre 11 godina

Good decision - but I would make the Glagolite alphabet strictly mandatory and the #1 alphabet all over Croatia. Who don't like that, can learn either Cyrillic or Glagolite or take off to some other country.

I was happy to see the Glagolite script being the #2 all over Croatia - unfortunately finding the proper font for Windows or Mac is really hard, Croatians should do that and make Glagolica part of European heritage. Heck, now as Bulgaria, Greece and Cyprus are in the EU the Cyrillic and Hellenic writing has to be supported, no matter what. Make one more step to the right direction.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović says rights of ethnic minorities must be respected and that the Cyrillic alphabet will be introduced in the town of Vukovar."

What a tempest in a teapot! Every Croat and Serb with at least 10 brain cells should be able to both read the same word written in Cyrillic and Latin alphabet, don't you think?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"news flash nikolle, the Serbian language is used and taught in Kosovo I Metohija"

not to Albanian students it isn't. perhaps you want to reread my post. i wrote i'd make it available to Albanian students. its very obviously taught to serbs

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

personally, i'd make learning cyrillic available in Kosova too, for Albanain primary school and secondary school children, if for no other reason, its great to learn new skills. i do not find the serbo-croatian language hard to master and the more languages you get aqcuinted with the better it is. we can't make politics out of everything

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

personally, i'd make learning cyrillic available in Kosova too, for Albanain primary school and secondary school children, if for no other reason, its great to learn new skills. i do not find the serbo-croatian language hard to master and the more languages you get aqcuinted with the better it is. we can't make politics out of everything

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

“Croatia did not fight against the Cyrillic script but against aggressors,” Milanović added.

You fought against loyal Yugoslavs. You are a traitor to your nation and would be punished if you tried the same in any western country.

Ataman

pre 11 godina

Good decision - but I would make the Glagolite alphabet strictly mandatory and the #1 alphabet all over Croatia. Who don't like that, can learn either Cyrillic or Glagolite or take off to some other country.

I was happy to see the Glagolite script being the #2 all over Croatia - unfortunately finding the proper font for Windows or Mac is really hard, Croatians should do that and make Glagolica part of European heritage. Heck, now as Bulgaria, Greece and Cyprus are in the EU the Cyrillic and Hellenic writing has to be supported, no matter what. Make one more step to the right direction.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović says rights of ethnic minorities must be respected and that the Cyrillic alphabet will be introduced in the town of Vukovar."

What a tempest in a teapot! Every Croat and Serb with at least 10 brain cells should be able to both read the same word written in Cyrillic and Latin alphabet, don't you think?

winston

pre 11 godina

Good idea, Nikolle, then the little Albanian angels will know which graves are Serbian, by the cyrillic, and can destroy them without wondering of they are Albanian graves. One of the few time I have agreed with you.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"news flash nikolle, the Serbian language is used and taught in Kosovo I Metohija"

not to Albanian students it isn't. perhaps you want to reread my post. i wrote i'd make it available to Albanian students. its very obviously taught to serbs

Lazar

pre 11 godina

Kosovo has nothing to do with any of this, as for Nikolle, I guess he's just saying that the more scripts/languages the better. Nothing controversial there, it's his opinion, and we should respect it even if it is something different... as long as he does not have bad intentions and indeed I think he does not.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Respect for this party and person.
Croatia must fully respect minorities' right. Same for Serbia of course.
Personally I do not understand the hate between Serbs and Croats. For people from outside the Balkan they are VERY simular!

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"not to Albanian students it isn't. perhaps you want to reread my post. i wrote i'd make it available to Albanian students. its very obviously taught to serbs"
(Nikolle, 16 February 2013 14:41)

That's the 'multi-ethnic and democratic Kosovo'. Isn't it absurd that under Milosevic (the early years at least) both languages were taught at school?

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, there is nothing that Albanians and Serbs cannot argue about. Is it tomato or tomaato?
(winston, 16 February 2013 18:09)

I really don't understand, what's the matter in this article to argue about. This article is about Europan cultural heritage (Croatians, Serbs, Cyrillic writing) - but these Albanians here have nothing to do with the culture. This article is totally unrelated to them.

TP

pre 11 godina

I agree with Ron and Michael Thomas. Serbs and Croats are not simply similar, they are the same, closer ethnically (whatever that really means) than the people of North and South England, and linguistically closer than UK and US English.

And yes you are right, Thomas, Croats did not fight against the real aggressors in 1991, they fought with them - Western interests at the expense of hundreds of thousands of Yugoslav people.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Ron- you should read up on Balkan history and see the horrific things the Croats did then you would certainly understand Serbias point of view
(Stan, 17 February 2013 11:21)

Croations did horrific things. Serbs did horrific things. Muslims did horrific things.
But please look to the future. Learn to live togeter. Learn to appreciate each other. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!

Stan

pre 11 godina

Ron- you should read up on Balkan history and see the horrific things the Croats did then you would certainly understand Serbias point of view

don't drink and drive!

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, there is nothing that Albanians and Serbs cannot argue about. Is it tomato or tomaato?
(winston, 16 February 2013 18:09)

It's tomata.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!
(Ron, 17 February 2013 19:18)
================

How does this make us equals?

http://info.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20070702gc.html

This is not written by a Serb but by an Australian.

Here is a little more information for you and when you have finished reading it, then tell us if you think we are all the same.

http://de-construct.net/?p=327

Please do read it and you will see that Serbs had to defend themselves from the old enemies who once again wanted to exterminate them.

alb.

pre 11 godina

(Robert1899, 16 February 2013 14:22)
maybe it is learnt by the serbian students in the cities where serbs are majority like gracanica , sterpce , and northern kosovo but not by us albanians ,in our schools we learn albanian , english (obligatory) and chose then between latin , german and french (depending on what direction we study and which one we chose , but these are available).

Introducing serbo-croatian to schools is not on plan and won`t be since the interest to learn these languages is around 0. Frankly I`d prefer other more spread and useful languages than srb-cro.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!
(Ron, 17 February 2013 19:18)
================

How does this make us equals?

http://info.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20070702gc.html

This is not written by a Serb but by an Australian.

Here is a little more information for you and when you have finished reading it, then tell us if you think we are all the same.

http://de-construct.net/?p=327

Please do read it and you will see that Serbs had to defend themselves from the old enemies who once again wanted to exterminate them.

Velebit

pre 11 godina

"A tempest in a teapot"- is an understandable comment of the uninitiated- those who know very little about the historical tensions between Serbs and Croats and who especially know even less about the role of Vukovar in the Homeland War. To dismiss this issue as a trifling matter is to discount the reality of the situation there - there is no mingling of the two races there today because there was no reconciliation between the two. In order to "move on" you have to have a common starting point, you have to have some sort of "truth and reconciliation" process to assess what crimes of war were committed and by whom and then mete out some justice. Unfortunately,this was never undertaken, so yes, today you have the "alleged" criminals living side by side to the victims of their crimes. Is this justice? Is this a basis of trust from which to build a better future? No, it is not! and some of the previous comments to this article testify to the truth of my position- not one comment that accepts responsibility for the barbarity and inhumanity that took place there!

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"news flash nikolle, the Serbian language is used and taught in Kosovo I Metohija"

not to Albanian students it isn't. perhaps you want to reread my post. i wrote i'd make it available to Albanian students. its very obviously taught to serbs

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

personally, i'd make learning cyrillic available in Kosova too, for Albanain primary school and secondary school children, if for no other reason, its great to learn new skills. i do not find the serbo-croatian language hard to master and the more languages you get aqcuinted with the better it is. we can't make politics out of everything

alb.

pre 11 godina

(Robert1899, 16 February 2013 14:22)
maybe it is learnt by the serbian students in the cities where serbs are majority like gracanica , sterpce , and northern kosovo but not by us albanians ,in our schools we learn albanian , english (obligatory) and chose then between latin , german and french (depending on what direction we study and which one we chose , but these are available).

Introducing serbo-croatian to schools is not on plan and won`t be since the interest to learn these languages is around 0. Frankly I`d prefer other more spread and useful languages than srb-cro.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Respect for this party and person.
Croatia must fully respect minorities' right. Same for Serbia of course.
Personally I do not understand the hate between Serbs and Croats. For people from outside the Balkan they are VERY simular!

Michael Thomas

pre 11 godina

“Croatia did not fight against the Cyrillic script but against aggressors,” Milanović added.

You fought against loyal Yugoslavs. You are a traitor to your nation and would be punished if you tried the same in any western country.

Stan

pre 11 godina

Ron- you should read up on Balkan history and see the horrific things the Croats did then you would certainly understand Serbias point of view

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Croatia’s PM Zoran Milanović says rights of ethnic minorities must be respected and that the Cyrillic alphabet will be introduced in the town of Vukovar."

What a tempest in a teapot! Every Croat and Serb with at least 10 brain cells should be able to both read the same word written in Cyrillic and Latin alphabet, don't you think?

winston

pre 11 godina

Good idea, Nikolle, then the little Albanian angels will know which graves are Serbian, by the cyrillic, and can destroy them without wondering of they are Albanian graves. One of the few time I have agreed with you.

Ron

pre 11 godina

Ron- you should read up on Balkan history and see the horrific things the Croats did then you would certainly understand Serbias point of view
(Stan, 17 February 2013 11:21)

Croations did horrific things. Serbs did horrific things. Muslims did horrific things.
But please look to the future. Learn to live togeter. Learn to appreciate each other. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!

Ataman

pre 11 godina

Good decision - but I would make the Glagolite alphabet strictly mandatory and the #1 alphabet all over Croatia. Who don't like that, can learn either Cyrillic or Glagolite or take off to some other country.

I was happy to see the Glagolite script being the #2 all over Croatia - unfortunately finding the proper font for Windows or Mac is really hard, Croatians should do that and make Glagolica part of European heritage. Heck, now as Bulgaria, Greece and Cyprus are in the EU the Cyrillic and Hellenic writing has to be supported, no matter what. Make one more step to the right direction.

TP

pre 11 godina

I agree with Ron and Michael Thomas. Serbs and Croats are not simply similar, they are the same, closer ethnically (whatever that really means) than the people of North and South England, and linguistically closer than UK and US English.

And yes you are right, Thomas, Croats did not fight against the real aggressors in 1991, they fought with them - Western interests at the expense of hundreds of thousands of Yugoslav people.

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, there is nothing that Albanians and Serbs cannot argue about. Is it tomato or tomaato?
(winston, 16 February 2013 18:09)

I really don't understand, what's the matter in this article to argue about. This article is about Europan cultural heritage (Croatians, Serbs, Cyrillic writing) - but these Albanians here have nothing to do with the culture. This article is totally unrelated to them.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!
(Ron, 17 February 2013 19:18)
================

How does this make us equals?

http://info.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20070702gc.html

This is not written by a Serb but by an Australian.

Here is a little more information for you and when you have finished reading it, then tell us if you think we are all the same.

http://de-construct.net/?p=327

Please do read it and you will see that Serbs had to defend themselves from the old enemies who once again wanted to exterminate them.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"not to Albanian students it isn't. perhaps you want to reread my post. i wrote i'd make it available to Albanian students. its very obviously taught to serbs"
(Nikolle, 16 February 2013 14:41)

That's the 'multi-ethnic and democratic Kosovo'. Isn't it absurd that under Milosevic (the early years at least) both languages were taught at school?

don't drink and drive!

pre 11 godina

Hahaha, there is nothing that Albanians and Serbs cannot argue about. Is it tomato or tomaato?
(winston, 16 February 2013 18:09)

It's tomata.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

. Man, you all are so equal!! Become friends, brothers!
(Ron, 17 February 2013 19:18)
================

How does this make us equals?

http://info.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20070702gc.html

This is not written by a Serb but by an Australian.

Here is a little more information for you and when you have finished reading it, then tell us if you think we are all the same.

http://de-construct.net/?p=327

Please do read it and you will see that Serbs had to defend themselves from the old enemies who once again wanted to exterminate them.

Lazar

pre 11 godina

Kosovo has nothing to do with any of this, as for Nikolle, I guess he's just saying that the more scripts/languages the better. Nothing controversial there, it's his opinion, and we should respect it even if it is something different... as long as he does not have bad intentions and indeed I think he does not.

Velebit

pre 11 godina

"A tempest in a teapot"- is an understandable comment of the uninitiated- those who know very little about the historical tensions between Serbs and Croats and who especially know even less about the role of Vukovar in the Homeland War. To dismiss this issue as a trifling matter is to discount the reality of the situation there - there is no mingling of the two races there today because there was no reconciliation between the two. In order to "move on" you have to have a common starting point, you have to have some sort of "truth and reconciliation" process to assess what crimes of war were committed and by whom and then mete out some justice. Unfortunately,this was never undertaken, so yes, today you have the "alleged" criminals living side by side to the victims of their crimes. Is this justice? Is this a basis of trust from which to build a better future? No, it is not! and some of the previous comments to this article testify to the truth of my position- not one comment that accepts responsibility for the barbarity and inhumanity that took place there!