Serbian president to open April debate on Hague in UNGA

Ian, no one in the world has played the victim card more than Kosovo Albanians. You are doing it to this very day - not to mention your brothers in Presevo, Macedonia, and wherever Albanians may live outside of Albania. Debate is a good thing, whatever the topic may be. Why should the world except the workings of a Western court, with the sole intent of promoting Western policy? You have had to have had your head in the sand up to your shoulders, to not have seen that many verdicts at the Hague were questionable. Even lead prosecutors at this world court where amazed, and embarrassed, by some of the rulings. With Milosevic's mysterious death, Seselj's "longest trial in history", incapacity to protect witnesses as in Haradjinaj's trials, overturning of verdicts, destruction of evidence as in the organ-harvesting investigations, yes, I think there is a lot to talk about. Admit it, Ian, and other Albanians here, anything that goes against Serbs, is great with you, even if there may have been injustices. The debate on the Hague will not simply be Jeremic and Nikolic speaking, many nations are taking part, and hopefully from these discussions, better and more unbiased courts will be created in the future. Not simply Western operated ones.

This is going to blow in serbias face. Everyone is waiting to remind serbia of the great crimes they committed against humanity.

Their going to tare Serbia apart it will be so totally embarrassing for Serbia and Serbs.

Ian. Serbia has paid a heavy price for its crimes while you glorify your ethnic cleansing. Justice will be sweet.

As you tar all Serbs with the same brush, so it happens to you. Now you know how it feels. I cannot remember one post of yours accepting any Albanian guilt for the war. You try and cloak your prejudice in legalistic technicalities like icj, but you are just your average genocide denier. Facts for a change. In Bosnia, casualties were almost exactly along ethnic lines. In Kosovo, 40% of casualties were Serbs with 12 % of the population. Who was and is being ethnically and culturally cleansed today. Just for once, acknowledge your (Albanian) guilt. NATO and the Albanians found each othe, willing accomplices in the biggest hoax anyone can remember. I am certain you and others consider the perpetuity of this hoax cruciall to your immoral plans. The big lie is like a shark. If it stops moving forward, it will die. That is your job, to keep it moving forward, against the current of truth.

When it comes, the debate will not be covered by Western media. The BBC does not know how to get from Srbrenica to Krajina, can't count the number of detention camps for Serbs during the civil war, how to spell Naser Oric, or comprehend Western complicity in atrocities.

You know I used to think it was all an intentional bias, a cover up, but having spoken to a researcher at the BBC apparently the reason for this myopic view of truth and justice in the Balkans is stupidity and ignorance, and that I have made the common mistake of investing way to much intelligence in the reporting and editorial staff of the BBC.

So Nikolic is going to have a tantrum and tell us how unfair the Hague is in front of all the leaders of the World, whilst playing the victim card once again? This will make good Television. Same old Serbia pretending to be the victim once again and pointing the finger at everyone else.

The UN will draft an official UN document after the debate, which is already overdue.
Support for Mr. Nikolic.

Time to blow the lid off this thing.

I wish Serbia all the best and hope the politicians will truely make good use of this opportunity, and that it has far reaching consequences (we ca always hope to have Mladic, Karadzic and Seselj back before next christmas!

There is nothing for Serbia to gain from this debate, talk about digging yourself a deeper hole Serbia will do just that this coming up April. All Kosova, Bosnia, and Crotia have to do is show the world what Serbs have done to those 3 nations. I wouldn't be surprised if Kosova gains more recognition after this debate.

This is the most important statement: "This will be the first time since the Nuremberg Trials that the work of an international criminal judiciary will be openly debated in the UNGA."
I believe the President Nikolic will do his utmost.

(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 12:26)

You are the absolute king of taqiyya on b92.

I have never glorified ethnic cleansing. If you believe otherwise please prove me wrong. I want to see quotes where I have supposedly glorified 'ethnic cleansing'. I want you to put your money where your mouth is.

And what exactly is meant by "your ethnic cleansing"?
(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 14:38)
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LOL!!! You Ian are one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing along with your Albanian friends here. There are hundreds of thousands of Serbian refugees and displaced people within Serbia and elsewhere. You support ethnic Albanians, they continue to ethnically cleans Serbs even till this day and you continue to justify their crimes and even attempt to blame Serbs themselves.

When an act of violence is committed against Serbs, you either disappear, deny it or repeat the fabricated line coming from Pristina (just like others - roberto, willi). You don't have to explicitly admit it for others to know you implicitly support ethnic cleansing.

So put your money where your mouth is and show me where you have explicitly condemned ethnic cleansing against Serbs. Where have you voiced your opinion that Serbs should be allowed to return to their homes?

Jeff, 13 February 2013 15:17) Jeff please post a source for your claim that 40% of victims in Kosovo were Serb, a non Serbian source if you will. Of course I doubt that a non Serbian source exists

It will be interesting what kind of document will be prepared. As the UNGA would have no authority to change any of the verdicts. When is Seselj"s verdict due? Isn't it in March?

Not simply Western operated ones.
(Winston, 13 February 2013 13:34)
A very ironic thing is you and the others who support the convicted criminals at the tribunal keep calling this a NATO or Western court. Look at the judges appointed to the court.
10 of the 18 permanent judges are from non NATO countries, including China, Russia and South Africa, 3 of the most ardent supporters of Serbia.
Of the Ad litem judges 4 are NATO, 4 are not.
Previous judges have come from Zambia, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, the Congo, Argentina, Ukraine, Madagaskar, Jamaica,Mali, Malaysia.
I would really like to hear how Serbs think there could be a more fair representation other than only allowing Serbian judges to try Serbian criminals??

Very interesting to hear how Nicolic will justify the obstruction of justice by the state of Serbia, by hiding and aiding the war criminals. Not individuals, but state organs, such as army, police, security forces etc. Maybe that's why Nicolic is going there for: to provide an explanation how the so-called new, democratic Serbia became accomplice to these war crimes, after the war.

Are Nazis going to talk also?

Are Nazis going to talk also?
(Avni, 13 February 2013 18:24)
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Does anyone know if NATO is invited?

Ian. Serbia has paid a heavy price for its crimes while you glorify your ethnic cleansing. Justice will be sweet.
(Jeff, 13 February 2013 13:06)

I have never glorified ethnic cleansing. If you believe otherwise please prove me wrong. I want to see quotes where I have supposedly glorified 'ethnic cleansing'. I want you to put your money where your mouth is.

And what exactly is meant by "your ethnic cleansing"?

LOL!!! You Ian are one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing along with your Albanian friends here. There are hundreds of thousands of Serbian refugees and displaced people within Serbia and elsewhere. You support ethnic Albanians, they continue to ethnically cleans Serbs even till this day and you continue to justify their crimes and even attempt to blame Serbs themselves.

When an act of violence is committed against Serbs, you either disappear, deny it or repeat the fabricated line coming from Pristina (just like others - roberto, willi). You don't have to explicitly admit it for others to know you implicitly support ethnic cleansing.

So put your money where your mouth is and show me where you have explicitly condemned ethnic cleansing against Serbs. Where have you voiced your opinion that Serbs should be allowed to return to their homes?
(Zoran, 13 February 2013 16:36)

So you can't quote me then?

I like it, no details about what the debate will be about. Will they review the cases of the Hague and say "this one was decided wrongly for reasons A, B, and C", "this one was correct because of D, E, and F". For that, you need to go deep into each of the cases however. So it is probably just going to be Tanjug style, just vague general accusations against the Hague, another UN body, kind of "Why did you not condemn Croats and Albanians as much as Serbs?". Serbia has a lot to lose from this. The others can talk too, even though not at first place. It will be reminded of hiding Mladic and many other things. If it is just a propaganda stunt Jeremic is seeking, the odds are against Serbia and it may backfire, like the ICJ. Go for it, however.

Does anyone know if NATO is invited?
(Zoran, 13 February 2013 19:48

I think Anvi was referring to Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzic, Seselj and the rest of the clan.

can't wait!

I hope that cookies and drinks are for free.

I hope that cookies and drinks are for free.
(John) For sure they will invite the homeless of New York in to make it look as if people are interested. Then for the finality Tomislav will sit in Vuks lap for the ventriloquist part of the show or was it the other way around. No matter it works out the same way people will think they've been jipped even though its all "free" go figure.

LOL!! No Ian, I cannot quote you condemning Albanian crimes and genocide whatsoever. Can you?
(Zoran, 14 February 2013 00:34)

I thought you wouldn't be able back up what you said about me being "one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing" with quotes.

If you're going to make accusations, at least be prepared to back them up.

New- I am sorry. It may be closer to 37pct. Hey, still looking?

So you can't quote me then?
(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 20:51)
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Too many in the case of condemnation of Serbs and only ever mentioning Albanian casualties. Just examine all your posts and suspiciously lack of posts when we discuss Serbian refugees, Serbian cemeteries which are vandalized and Serbs being attacked and killed in Kosovo by Albanians.
We cannot quote you on the absence of posts as logically there are no posts on those articles.
So when an article about how the Serbs are treated in Kosovo appears here, why do you disappear?

So you can't quote me then?
(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 20:51)
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LOL!! No Ian, I cannot quote you condemning Albanian crimes and genocide whatsoever. Can you?

"I would really like to hear how Serbs think there could be a more fair representation other than only allowing Serbian judges to try Serbian criminals??"
(pss, 13 February 2013 14:26)

Maybe Nikolic will use his chance to explain to some of his ignorant countrymen who created this ICTY court and what the difference between UN and NATO is - sometimes you have to start in a sandbox

Are Nazis going to talk also?
(Avni, 13 February 2013 18:24)
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Some, some are not as "kosovaahs" are not invited.

You know I used to think it was all an intentional bias, a cover up, but having spoken to a researcher at the BBC apparently the reason for this myopic view of truth and justice in the Balkans is stupidity and ignorance, and that I have made the common mistake of investing way to much intelligence in the reporting and editorial staff of the BBC.
(miles, 13 February 2013 11:52)

I'm sure you're right that there's a healthy dose of stupidity and ignorance involved, but when those who were complicit in the crimes were also being handed Nobel Peace Prizes, you can't say that there isn't also intentional bias and cover-up.

I thought you wouldn't be able back up what you said about me being "one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing" with quotes.
If you're going to make accusations, at least be prepared to back them up.
(Ian, UK, 14 February 2013 14:06)

That's a loaded question, because being less of a supporter of ethnic cleansing than the Clintons still does not mean that one is not "one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing".

It will be interesting to hear what the countries that are openly siding with Croatia's think about this case.

wonder if he will get as much atttention as his brother from iran did when he addressed the un last year.

Jeff,
The HLC in Belgrade lists between 8000-10,000 Albanian victims and between 2000-2500 victims of Serb, Roma, Bosnian, and Albanian's loyal to Serbia. So that would equal a maximum of less than 205 Serb. Western sources list lower numbers.

Maybe Nikolic will use his chance to explain to some of his ignorant countrymen who created this ICTY court and what the difference between UN and NATO is - sometimes you have to start in a sandbox
(Questioner, 14 February 2013 07:47)

Because that distinction is sooooo much more important than the fact that the Serbs are being called ignorant because they didn't want to welcome the likes of Osama Bin Laden with open arms.

Previous post should have read less than 20% Serbs.

It will be interesting to hear what the countries that are openly siding with Croatia's think about this case.
(Anna, 14 February 2013 17:31)

It will be interesting if we get to hear what every country's voice of reason has to say. It tends to get boring when all you hear is false consensus.

Their going to tare Serbia apart it will be so totally embarrassing for Serbia and Serbs.

So Nikolic is going to have a tantrum and tell us how unfair the Hague is in front of all the leaders of the World, whilst playing the victim card once again? This will make good Television. Same old Serbia pretending to be the victim once again and pointing the finger at everyone else.

Time to blow the lid off this thing.

I wish Serbia all the best and hope the politicians will truely make good use of this opportunity, and that it has far reaching consequences (we ca always hope to have Mladic, Karadzic and Seselj back before next christmas!

There is nothing for Serbia to gain from this debate, talk about digging yourself a deeper hole Serbia will do just that this coming up April. All Kosova, Bosnia, and Crotia have to do is show the world what Serbs have done to those 3 nations. I wouldn't be surprised if Kosova gains more recognition after this debate.

This is going to blow in serbias face. Everyone is waiting to remind serbia of the great crimes they committed against humanity.

Ian. Serbia has paid a heavy price for its crimes while you glorify your ethnic cleansing. Justice will be sweet.
(Jeff, 13 February 2013 13:06)

I have never glorified ethnic cleansing. If you believe otherwise please prove me wrong. I want to see quotes where I have supposedly glorified 'ethnic cleansing'. I want you to put your money where your mouth is.

And what exactly is meant by "your ethnic cleansing"?

Not simply Western operated ones.
(Winston, 13 February 2013 13:34)
A very ironic thing is you and the others who support the convicted criminals at the tribunal keep calling this a NATO or Western court. Look at the judges appointed to the court.
10 of the 18 permanent judges are from non NATO countries, including China, Russia and South Africa, 3 of the most ardent supporters of Serbia.
Of the Ad litem judges 4 are NATO, 4 are not.
Previous judges have come from Zambia, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, the Congo, Argentina, Ukraine, Madagaskar, Jamaica,Mali, Malaysia.
I would really like to hear how Serbs think there could be a more fair representation other than only allowing Serbian judges to try Serbian criminals??

Very interesting to hear how Nicolic will justify the obstruction of justice by the state of Serbia, by hiding and aiding the war criminals. Not individuals, but state organs, such as army, police, security forces etc. Maybe that's why Nicolic is going there for: to provide an explanation how the so-called new, democratic Serbia became accomplice to these war crimes, after the war.

I have never glorified ethnic cleansing. If you believe otherwise please prove me wrong. I want to see quotes where I have supposedly glorified 'ethnic cleansing'. I want you to put your money where your mouth is.

And what exactly is meant by "your ethnic cleansing"?
(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 14:38)
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LOL!!! You Ian are one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing along with your Albanian friends here. There are hundreds of thousands of Serbian refugees and displaced people within Serbia and elsewhere. You support ethnic Albanians, they continue to ethnically cleans Serbs even till this day and you continue to justify their crimes and even attempt to blame Serbs themselves.

When an act of violence is committed against Serbs, you either disappear, deny it or repeat the fabricated line coming from Pristina (just like others - roberto, willi). You don't have to explicitly admit it for others to know you implicitly support ethnic cleansing.

So put your money where your mouth is and show me where you have explicitly condemned ethnic cleansing against Serbs. Where have you voiced your opinion that Serbs should be allowed to return to their homes?

As you tar all Serbs with the same brush, so it happens to you. Now you know how it feels. I cannot remember one post of yours accepting any Albanian guilt for the war. You try and cloak your prejudice in legalistic technicalities like icj, but you are just your average genocide denier. Facts for a change. In Bosnia, casualties were almost exactly along ethnic lines. In Kosovo, 40% of casualties were Serbs with 12 % of the population. Who was and is being ethnically and culturally cleansed today. Just for once, acknowledge your (Albanian) guilt. NATO and the Albanians found each othe, willing accomplices in the biggest hoax anyone can remember. I am certain you and others consider the perpetuity of this hoax cruciall to your immoral plans. The big lie is like a shark. If it stops moving forward, it will die. That is your job, to keep it moving forward, against the current of truth.

Are Nazis going to talk also?

Ian, no one in the world has played the victim card more than Kosovo Albanians. You are doing it to this very day - not to mention your brothers in Presevo, Macedonia, and wherever Albanians may live outside of Albania. Debate is a good thing, whatever the topic may be. Why should the world except the workings of a Western court, with the sole intent of promoting Western policy? You have had to have had your head in the sand up to your shoulders, to not have seen that many verdicts at the Hague were questionable. Even lead prosecutors at this world court where amazed, and embarrassed, by some of the rulings. With Milosevic's mysterious death, Seselj's "longest trial in history", incapacity to protect witnesses as in Haradjinaj's trials, overturning of verdicts, destruction of evidence as in the organ-harvesting investigations, yes, I think there is a lot to talk about. Admit it, Ian, and other Albanians here, anything that goes against Serbs, is great with you, even if there may have been injustices. The debate on the Hague will not simply be Jeremic and Nikolic speaking, many nations are taking part, and hopefully from these discussions, better and more unbiased courts will be created in the future. Not simply Western operated ones.

Ian. Serbia has paid a heavy price for its crimes while you glorify your ethnic cleansing. Justice will be sweet.

(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 12:26)

You are the absolute king of taqiyya on b92.

Jeff, 13 February 2013 15:17) Jeff please post a source for your claim that 40% of victims in Kosovo were Serb, a non Serbian source if you will. Of course I doubt that a non Serbian source exists

When it comes, the debate will not be covered by Western media. The BBC does not know how to get from Srbrenica to Krajina, can't count the number of detention camps for Serbs during the civil war, how to spell Naser Oric, or comprehend Western complicity in atrocities.

You know I used to think it was all an intentional bias, a cover up, but having spoken to a researcher at the BBC apparently the reason for this myopic view of truth and justice in the Balkans is stupidity and ignorance, and that I have made the common mistake of investing way to much intelligence in the reporting and editorial staff of the BBC.

Are Nazis going to talk also?
(Avni, 13 February 2013 18:24)
--
Does anyone know if NATO is invited?

LOL!!! You Ian are one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing along with your Albanian friends here. There are hundreds of thousands of Serbian refugees and displaced people within Serbia and elsewhere. You support ethnic Albanians, they continue to ethnically cleans Serbs even till this day and you continue to justify their crimes and even attempt to blame Serbs themselves.

When an act of violence is committed against Serbs, you either disappear, deny it or repeat the fabricated line coming from Pristina (just like others - roberto, willi). You don't have to explicitly admit it for others to know you implicitly support ethnic cleansing.

So put your money where your mouth is and show me where you have explicitly condemned ethnic cleansing against Serbs. Where have you voiced your opinion that Serbs should be allowed to return to their homes?
(Zoran, 13 February 2013 16:36)

So you can't quote me then?

Does anyone know if NATO is invited?
(Zoran, 13 February 2013 19:48

I think Anvi was referring to Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzic, Seselj and the rest of the clan.

The UN will draft an official UN document after the debate, which is already overdue.
Support for Mr. Nikolic.

I hope that cookies and drinks are for free.
(John) For sure they will invite the homeless of New York in to make it look as if people are interested. Then for the finality Tomislav will sit in Vuks lap for the ventriloquist part of the show or was it the other way around. No matter it works out the same way people will think they've been jipped even though its all "free" go figure.

This is the most important statement: "This will be the first time since the Nuremberg Trials that the work of an international criminal judiciary will be openly debated in the UNGA."
I believe the President Nikolic will do his utmost.

can't wait!

I hope that cookies and drinks are for free.

Are Nazis going to talk also?
(Avni, 13 February 2013 18:24)
======================

Some, some are not as "kosovaahs" are not invited.

New- I am sorry. It may be closer to 37pct. Hey, still looking?

So you can't quote me then?
(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 20:51)
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Too many in the case of condemnation of Serbs and only ever mentioning Albanian casualties. Just examine all your posts and suspiciously lack of posts when we discuss Serbian refugees, Serbian cemeteries which are vandalized and Serbs being attacked and killed in Kosovo by Albanians.
We cannot quote you on the absence of posts as logically there are no posts on those articles.
So when an article about how the Serbs are treated in Kosovo appears here, why do you disappear?

So you can't quote me then?
(Ian, UK, 13 February 2013 20:51)
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LOL!! No Ian, I cannot quote you condemning Albanian crimes and genocide whatsoever. Can you?

Maybe Nikolic will use his chance to explain to some of his ignorant countrymen who created this ICTY court and what the difference between UN and NATO is - sometimes you have to start in a sandbox
(Questioner, 14 February 2013 07:47)

Because that distinction is sooooo much more important than the fact that the Serbs are being called ignorant because they didn't want to welcome the likes of Osama Bin Laden with open arms.

I like it, no details about what the debate will be about. Will they review the cases of the Hague and say "this one was decided wrongly for reasons A, B, and C", "this one was correct because of D, E, and F". For that, you need to go deep into each of the cases however. So it is probably just going to be Tanjug style, just vague general accusations against the Hague, another UN body, kind of "Why did you not condemn Croats and Albanians as much as Serbs?". Serbia has a lot to lose from this. The others can talk too, even though not at first place. It will be reminded of hiding Mladic and many other things. If it is just a propaganda stunt Jeremic is seeking, the odds are against Serbia and it may backfire, like the ICJ. Go for it, however.

Jeff,
The HLC in Belgrade lists between 8000-10,000 Albanian victims and between 2000-2500 victims of Serb, Roma, Bosnian, and Albanian's loyal to Serbia. So that would equal a maximum of less than 205 Serb. Western sources list lower numbers.

LOL!! No Ian, I cannot quote you condemning Albanian crimes and genocide whatsoever. Can you?
(Zoran, 14 February 2013 00:34)

I thought you wouldn't be able back up what you said about me being "one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing" with quotes.

If you're going to make accusations, at least be prepared to back them up.

wonder if he will get as much atttention as his brother from iran did when he addressed the un last year.

It will be interesting what kind of document will be prepared. As the UNGA would have no authority to change any of the verdicts. When is Seselj"s verdict due? Isn't it in March?

You know I used to think it was all an intentional bias, a cover up, but having spoken to a researcher at the BBC apparently the reason for this myopic view of truth and justice in the Balkans is stupidity and ignorance, and that I have made the common mistake of investing way to much intelligence in the reporting and editorial staff of the BBC.
(miles, 13 February 2013 11:52)

I'm sure you're right that there's a healthy dose of stupidity and ignorance involved, but when those who were complicit in the crimes were also being handed Nobel Peace Prizes, you can't say that there isn't also intentional bias and cover-up.

I thought you wouldn't be able back up what you said about me being "one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing" with quotes.
If you're going to make accusations, at least be prepared to back them up.
(Ian, UK, 14 February 2013 14:06)

That's a loaded question, because being less of a supporter of ethnic cleansing than the Clintons still does not mean that one is not "one of the biggest supporters of ethnic cleansing".

It will be interesting to hear what the countries that are openly siding with Croatia's think about this case.

"I would really like to hear how Serbs think there could be a more fair representation other than only allowing Serbian judges to try Serbian criminals??"
(pss, 13 February 2013 14:26)

Maybe Nikolic will use his chance to explain to some of his ignorant countrymen who created this ICTY court and what the difference between UN and NATO is - sometimes you have to start in a sandbox

Previous post should have read less than 20% Serbs.

It will be interesting to hear what the countries that are openly siding with Croatia's think about this case.
(Anna, 14 February 2013 17:31)

It will be interesting if we get to hear what every country's voice of reason has to say. It tends to get boring when all you hear is false consensus.