“NATO against forming of Kosovo army”

Agim Ceku, is this old bald hawk still around? This old turncoat traitor should be spending the rest of his life making Serbian license plates, and not mouthing off about some Albanian army in KiM. Whatever, ain't gonna' be no Kosovo army, NATO is not that stupid to give the KiM Albanians even more force, they can barely manage keeping the clowns in the KPS in check. And these Turks, who do they think they are, Americans, by sticking their noses in everyones business?

No army for the KiM Albanians, oh oh, I see another protest in the making. Let's see, how many will that be this week alone? Good to see that the Albanians are exercising their democratic rights and freedoms, it would just be a good thing if they extended it to others. As for an Albanian army in KiM, NATO would have to be back in Kosovo triple force, just to keep this "Newborn Army" in check. Can you imagine, violent protests at Serbian monasteries, and Pristina calls in their army to protect the beleaguered monks trapped inside, yeah right!

“Kosovo is an independent and sovereign state and it should have the same rights, no more and no less, as other countries in the region. Just like all other countries that have courts and other institutions like an army, Kosovo should be entitled to its army as well,” he said after a meeting with Kosovo Security Force Minister Agim Ceku.

Since the precondition mentioned there 'Kosovo is an independent and sovereign state' is not true, the conclusion isn't valid.

Thaci has already got an army which is modelled on the drug cartels in Mexico.

Hmm, interesting. No "Kosovahh"* in NATO, No "Kosovahh"* in the EU and no "Kosovahh"* in the UN. Maybe they can protest by engaging in their favourite sports of burning churches, desecrating graves and lobbing grenades at children.

More "he says, she says". Tomorrow there will be a high ranking official declaring that Kosovo will have an army.
Just like the EU debate.
One day someone will say that Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join EU then the next day someone else will say that is not a requirement, then the next day someone will say it is and then someone will say it is not and so on and so on.
So it is basically who or what you want to believe at this point. But there is one fact: Either they will leave Kosovo with an army or they will forever remain in place, either as NATO wholly or an agreement among a subset of NATO. Note all NATO countries do not contribute to every action.

This is not good news. Whenever they decide to leave the Albanians with an army is when they decide to leave. Lets all pray the KLA get an army sooner rather than later. Because the day when this pathetic excuse for an army is the only thing standing between Beograd and Pristina is the day the occupation would be lifted in the course of a week tops maybe. (Even if Albania directly helped)

Besides, you don't need an army to go at 4 monks at a Monastery or 14 year old girls or 85 year old unsuspecting seniors. You would need it for Mitrovica, but after July 2011, the Albanian tough guys are dead ass frightened to go there and I cannot blame them.

"Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz has stated that Kosovo should have its own army"
The Turkish that go play another Chemical Weapon against PKK and let say anything about Kosovo.
freak

It's not up to NATO to make a decision about the army. Albanians just want its consent. Anyways, if they don't reacht a consent, it doesn't matter. Americans support the transformation just as the 4 big European countries. So who cares about Romania etc.

Since the Russians and Nato have worked together in Afghanistan and the 1st Iraqi war , helped to impliment Dayton?!?!
Not to state the obvious ,Question: Why Don't The Serbians in Kosovo invite Russian Spetznas to come set up a base and assist Kfor?

CH, Pristina does not have a pot to pee in, literally. How are they going to finance this army? Modern weaponry is quite expensive, and the remittences Albanian diaspora send to KiM would not do it. Without NATO's consent, the Albanian army would be the tired old Kalishnikov's, and a mounted donkey brigade. Let's be honest here, Albanians cannot fart without Western aid.

Sicily powerful albo time is over for ever,
when Albos com to the Balkan and loose all army in the Ohrid.
Any creation of big albo army will be simulation of the Sicily time.
Also Kosovo albo must learn ,that all war is over in the future.

Here we go again with the anonymous high-ranking official.

Me too I ask or wonder that Kosovo should have a right to protect itself from potential & foreign enemy troops. Let's remember that a number of nations recognize its sovereignty.

This is what will happen. The US,UK, France etc. will give the go ahead to turn FSK into an army. NATO as an organization won't. The army will be formed but not be called an army. It will have the forces and the armaments. Pilots are already being trained in Turkey. Serbia, Cyprus, Slovakia will complain. However since they don't recognize they will be told there is no army; FSK operational capabilities have only gotten more robust. The US, UK, France etc will provide their support, training and armaments. Serbs can claim there's no army. We know better. Everyone is happy.

Thaci has already got an army which is modelled on the drug cartels in Mexico.

(Ari Gold, 9 February 2013 16:36)
Oh the glorious dreams of those living safely in other countries, about the magical Serb army swooping in and slaughtering the Albanians just so you can have a boost to your Serbian pride.
But alas it is a dream and one that will never come true.
With or without an army in Kosovo, NATO will never leave without guarantees in place that Serbia will not be able to do such.

I too wonder that Kosovo should have a right to defend itself.

If Kosovo has an army - then Serbia would have something to fight.

Perhaps that is the way to resolve the situation after all.

Here we go again with the anonymous high-ranking official.
(Pejoni, 9 February 2013 16:17)

Koha Ditore wrote this not B92, so go take it up with them if you think they are lying. Although I can't see why they would, especially since you guys not getting your own army means you wont be responsible for your own occupation, this is a good thing Pejoni. Rejoice! Because I pray for the day you get your own army.

The organ harvesters, narco-terrorists, human traffickers, church burners and cemetery desecraters are too agressive, ambitious and evil to even posses gasoline and matches--and they are talking army?? WOW!

It's not true Kosovo is forming a army and the EU is paying for it. Like the EU now is buying for Kosovo Patria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDATgmHRKM armoured fighting vehicles and other equipment. They are manufactured in Croatia and being shipped to Kosovo they have now a dozen more to come they are a Finish design. Croatia manufactured 126 for it self and are going to manufacture 60 more after that.

Peggy,

reading your comments it's almost like you don't know that the situation for Albanians was one of apartheid from 1989 until the bombing.

Do you really think this didn't happen? that it's all lies?

You would need it for Mitrovica, but after July 2011, the Albanian tough guys are dead ass frightened to go there and I cannot blame them.
(Ari Gold, 9 February 2013 18:30)

Not sure what business the Albanian tough guys would have in Mitrovica, but they do have business of collecting the customs duties at the Kosovo's boundaries as mandated by UNMIK and they are there doing just that.

Danilo, there are quite a few opinions of what happened in KiM in 1999, than the one expressed by Albanians here, and the propagandist US State Dept.
http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/keys.htm
http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/kosovo/kosovo-real-story.htm

Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz has stated that Kosovo should have its own army.
Yeah good idea, that way turkey is back again in the balkan.
A Kosovo army to protect serbia ....

Kosovo wanting an army? These rabid "ex" US and Europe and elsewhere listed terrorists must be out of their evil blood thirsty minds!!!

Oh the glorious dreams of those living safely in other countries, about the magical Serb army swooping in and slaughtering the Albanians just so you can have a boost to your Serbian pride.
But alas it is a dream and one that will never come true.
==============================

We don't want to slaughter you or anyone else. We just want you to stop being stupid and give up on the UDI. We want our land back.
Live there, manage your own affairs but stop trying to expel the rest of us from there and stop trying to take what is not yours.

In other words, behave like the rest of people in Serbia and all will be good.

My there are some deluded Albanians with fanciful imaginations about Kosovo having an army and pilots being trained right now in Turkey.
Now back to reality boys, who is paying for this Kosova Army????????? The US, well I suggest you guys put in a request for money especially after this last storm in New York and see is you get enough to buy a cappuccino. The EU? The very latest on the financial crises is that they approached about a dozen or so of Asia’s banks for a loan of $1.5 trillion as a fighting war chest and in the end the best they got is $400 billion. Some clown mentioned UK and France helping Pristina with its army – yes both countries are going to reduce their military budgets to give to the Albanians – and pigs will fly. Where do you guys get this stuff from?
Now how much money can Pristina generate? Pristina is unable to generate enough to pay for one tenth of the current police let alone an army or teachers or hospitals. It’s all covered by Brussels.
So the Albanians need to take a nice hot shower and headache pills and keep on dreaming.
On the issue on NATO. It was once the most powerful battle group, but today it’s preparing to leave Afghanistan DEFEATED – you don’t survive something like that; NATO is dead.

hahaha this news made me laugh...serbs are so desperate and mad at the same time....this is such BS

What is bigger joke than Kosovo army? Kosovo national team! Are those albanians in Kosovo so dillusional or what?

Danilo, there are quite a few opinions of what happened in KiM in 1999, than the one expressed by Albanians here, and the propagandist US State Dept.
[link]
[link]
(Ecoman, 10 February 2013 12:42)

Sure, there are many opinion like, yours, mine, Mr. Čedomir's or Mr. David's but according to Vuk's UN that all Serbs love so much, this is what happened in Kosovo in 1999 (just a short summary):
http://www.icty.org/x/cases/milutinovic/tjug/en/090226summary.pdf

Since I do not understand how Serbian Diaspora loves war so much for land they will never live how absurd is it ( Ari, Peggy ...) people who do not live in Kosov speak about this land dont you think that people living there should decide?
Even in North they want to go under Serbia OK let them join no one will hear again for 4 mayors from north.

Do you know that there is a country without territory a UN observer recognised by 104 countries Sovereign Military Order Of Malta and they even issue passports. Peggy or most here will never step in Kosovo but they want people there to live under rules of they will not have to follow.

Lenard

Great link. It suggest it is being made in Finland and not Croatia. Beside where does the link say EU is supporting a Kosovo albanian army? You make a statement and you supported with an entierly different subject. Me don't gets it!

We don't want to slaughter you or anyone else. We just want you to stop being stupid and give up on the UDI.
(Peggy, 9 February 2013 23:56)

But you just stated the other day that they are the "lowest of the low". If they give up their UDI and join Serbia, Serbia will have to live together with 2M of the "lowest of the low". I know you don't care because you live in Australia, but, for a Serb living in Serbia, for every three of his/her neighbors there will be one of the "lowest of the low" - that would be alarming for every Serb living in Serbia, which is why I don't blame the Serbs in Serbia for not following your advices.

Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz has stated that Kosovo should have its own army.

“Kosovo is an independent and sovereign state and it should have the same rights, no more and no less, as other countries in the region. Just like all other countries that have courts and other institutions like an army, Kosovo should be entitled to its army as well,”

Question: is the same true for the Kurds in Syria, Iraq and... Turkey?
No double standards!

On the issue on NATO. It was once the most powerful battle group, but today it’s preparing to leave Afghanistan DEFEATED – you don’t survive something like that; NATO is dead.
(sj, 10 February 2013 06:25)

Well, the man they were after is now reposing in peace at the bottom of the ocean... True, Afghans are continuing to kill themselves, but hey, it's not the job of NATO to waste their taxpayers money to make Afghans love each other. I understand that somebody hating NATO would love NATO to do that, but hey, NATO may be stupid, but not that stupid.

Mission completed, NATO should be back home, it's the Afghans' business to become a civilized country or not - but if you are so concerned about that, you are more then welcome to have Serbia go there and teach Afghans how to love each other.

As for NATO being the most powerful battle group, I though that somebody called sj had already ruled long time ago that they were all p... and wind, no ?

very interesting Peggy. I am 1000% certain that the (admittedly small) Turkish community does not want to be a part of Serbia and that they support independence. Same for the Croats of Janjev. so it seems you only support one group, the Kosova Serbs

Then, you're simply a fool, Peggy.

Much of what the Milosevic regime did is a matter of their own public record.

I like the attitude of NATO that Kosovo should not have an army. If, against the will of NATO, Kosovo army is made,​​ what will NATO do?

Do you really think this didn't happen? that it's all lies?
(Danilo, 10 February 2013 12:16)
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Yep.

Lenard

Great link. It suggests it's being made in Finland and not Croatia. Beside where does the link say EU is supporting a Kosovo Albanian's army? You make a statement and you supported with an entierly different subject. Me don't gets it!
(Hank the Tank, 10 February 2013 10:55) Croatia bought licence to build the Finish Patrica's. It has other good deals with Finland and Patrica Co also they are built in Croatia. Europeans have their own armoured vehicles http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/General_News/2011-05-27/19606/_Croatia_to_sell_six_APC_vehicles_to_EULEX_mission_in_Kosovo their these went to Kosovo Albanian forces.

But you just stated the other day that they are the "lowest of the low". If they give up their UDI and join Serbia, Serbia will have to live together with 2M of the "lowest of the low"
=============================

Unfortunately, Serbs in Serbia are used to that. They already live with quite a bit of lowlife.
Take a look at who built that monument which was taken away.
Besides, not all in Kosovo are the lowest of the low. There were many Albanians who didn't want the KLA representing them but were forced to accept them and some were even killed by them.
There are many good decent Albanians in Kosovo still.
Unfortunately, they don't post here or have any say in what goes on over there. The would certainly be a good addition to Serbia.

So, no, I don't mean every Albanian is the lowest of the low. Many who do horrible things now are but sadly they come with the territory and I am sure that Serbia will be able to clean Kosovo to some extent. They will have to build a few more prisons but it time they would get there.

Do you know that there is a country without territory a UN observer recognised by 104 countries Sovereign Military Order Of Malta and they even issue passports. Peggy or most here will never step in Kosovo but they want people there to live under rules of they will not have to follow.
(Alo Alo, 10 February 2013 02:47)
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You really don't make any sense at all.
I might never visit Kosovo, but, I fully support the wishes of the Serbian people and of other non Albanians living in Kosovo. Those people want Serbian rule there. I am not setting any rules of my own. I am supporting my people over there and fully stand behind them.

Now are you saying that Serbs and other non Albanians of Kosovo don't want to be part of Serbia?

. so it seems you only support one group, the Kosova Serbs
(Nikolle, 10 February 2013 23:56)
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You sure about that? A 1000% sure?
There are even some Albanians who didn't want the UDI.
Your lot expelled most of the ones who didn't agree with it. Some were even killed for not complying with the orders of KLA.

Terror will get you the desired results most of the time.

very interesting Peggy. I am 1000% certain that the (admittedly small) Turkish community does not want to be a part of Serbia and that they support independence. Same for the Croats of Janjev. so it seems you only support one group, the Kosova Serbs
(Nikolle, 10 February 2013 23:56)

Hmmm, a very nice piece of revisionism. When the Serbs started to leave Kosovo due to Albanian humanitarian action these same people kicked out all other minorities including Turks and Croats as well as Albanian Roma.
As far as the Croats are concerned the Albanians had some justification because during operation Oluja they did the same with their people living in Croatia.
Today the poor Roma (these are all Muslim gypsies) are forced to live on the outskirts of Serb settlements for protection because their “brothers” would kill them.
Just keep on dreaming Nikolle.

Then, you're simply a fool, Peggy.

Much of what the Milosevic regime did is a matter of their own public record.
(Danilo, 11 February 2013 02:44)
==============================

So you say.
There is also a lot of propaganda and straight out lies out there which you are so willing to embrace as the truth.
I am only a fool as far as you are concerned.
Who says that you are not a fool and an arrogant one at that.

Lenard

You said Croatia will sell armored vehicles to the Kosovo albanian army, the article said to the international mission in Kosovo. Those are two entierly different things.

Agim Ceku, is this old bald hawk still around? This old turncoat traitor should be spending the rest of his life making Serbian license plates, and not mouthing off about some Albanian army in KiM. Whatever, ain't gonna' be no Kosovo army, NATO is not that stupid to give the KiM Albanians even more force, they can barely manage keeping the clowns in the KPS in check. And these Turks, who do they think they are, Americans, by sticking their noses in everyones business?

“Kosovo is an independent and sovereign state and it should have the same rights, no more and no less, as other countries in the region. Just like all other countries that have courts and other institutions like an army, Kosovo should be entitled to its army as well,” he said after a meeting with Kosovo Security Force Minister Agim Ceku.

Since the precondition mentioned there 'Kosovo is an independent and sovereign state' is not true, the conclusion isn't valid.

Me too I ask or wonder that Kosovo should have a right to protect itself from potential & foreign enemy troops. Let's remember that a number of nations recognize its sovereignty.

It's not up to NATO to make a decision about the army. Albanians just want its consent. Anyways, if they don't reacht a consent, it doesn't matter. Americans support the transformation just as the 4 big European countries. So who cares about Romania etc.

No army for the KiM Albanians, oh oh, I see another protest in the making. Let's see, how many will that be this week alone? Good to see that the Albanians are exercising their democratic rights and freedoms, it would just be a good thing if they extended it to others. As for an Albanian army in KiM, NATO would have to be back in Kosovo triple force, just to keep this "Newborn Army" in check. Can you imagine, violent protests at Serbian monasteries, and Pristina calls in their army to protect the beleaguered monks trapped inside, yeah right!

I too wonder that Kosovo should have a right to defend itself.

Hmm, interesting. No "Kosovahh"* in NATO, No "Kosovahh"* in the EU and no "Kosovahh"* in the UN. Maybe they can protest by engaging in their favourite sports of burning churches, desecrating graves and lobbing grenades at children.

Besides, you don't need an army to go at 4 monks at a Monastery or 14 year old girls or 85 year old unsuspecting seniors. You would need it for Mitrovica, but after July 2011, the Albanian tough guys are dead ass frightened to go there and I cannot blame them.

"Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz has stated that Kosovo should have its own army"
The Turkish that go play another Chemical Weapon against PKK and let say anything about Kosovo.
freak

This is not good news. Whenever they decide to leave the Albanians with an army is when they decide to leave. Lets all pray the KLA get an army sooner rather than later. Because the day when this pathetic excuse for an army is the only thing standing between Beograd and Pristina is the day the occupation would be lifted in the course of a week tops maybe. (Even if Albania directly helped)

Here we go again with the anonymous high-ranking official.

Sicily powerful albo time is over for ever,
when Albos com to the Balkan and loose all army in the Ohrid.
Any creation of big albo army will be simulation of the Sicily time.
Also Kosovo albo must learn ,that all war is over in the future.

Thaci has already got an army which is modelled on the drug cartels in Mexico.

It's not true Kosovo is forming a army and the EU is paying for it. Like the EU now is buying for Kosovo Patria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDATgmHRKM armoured fighting vehicles and other equipment. They are manufactured in Croatia and being shipped to Kosovo they have now a dozen more to come they are a Finish design. Croatia manufactured 126 for it self and are going to manufacture 60 more after that.

Thaci has already got an army which is modelled on the drug cartels in Mexico.

CH, Pristina does not have a pot to pee in, literally. How are they going to finance this army? Modern weaponry is quite expensive, and the remittences Albanian diaspora send to KiM would not do it. Without NATO's consent, the Albanian army would be the tired old Kalishnikov's, and a mounted donkey brigade. Let's be honest here, Albanians cannot fart without Western aid.

(Ari Gold, 9 February 2013 16:36)
Oh the glorious dreams of those living safely in other countries, about the magical Serb army swooping in and slaughtering the Albanians just so you can have a boost to your Serbian pride.
But alas it is a dream and one that will never come true.
With or without an army in Kosovo, NATO will never leave without guarantees in place that Serbia will not be able to do such.

More "he says, she says". Tomorrow there will be a high ranking official declaring that Kosovo will have an army.
Just like the EU debate.
One day someone will say that Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join EU then the next day someone else will say that is not a requirement, then the next day someone will say it is and then someone will say it is not and so on and so on.
So it is basically who or what you want to believe at this point. But there is one fact: Either they will leave Kosovo with an army or they will forever remain in place, either as NATO wholly or an agreement among a subset of NATO. Note all NATO countries do not contribute to every action.

This is what will happen. The US,UK, France etc. will give the go ahead to turn FSK into an army. NATO as an organization won't. The army will be formed but not be called an army. It will have the forces and the armaments. Pilots are already being trained in Turkey. Serbia, Cyprus, Slovakia will complain. However since they don't recognize they will be told there is no army; FSK operational capabilities have only gotten more robust. The US, UK, France etc will provide their support, training and armaments. Serbs can claim there's no army. We know better. Everyone is happy.

Here we go again with the anonymous high-ranking official.
(Pejoni, 9 February 2013 16:17)

Koha Ditore wrote this not B92, so go take it up with them if you think they are lying. Although I can't see why they would, especially since you guys not getting your own army means you wont be responsible for your own occupation, this is a good thing Pejoni. Rejoice! Because I pray for the day you get your own army.

If Kosovo has an army - then Serbia would have something to fight.

Perhaps that is the way to resolve the situation after all.

Since the Russians and Nato have worked together in Afghanistan and the 1st Iraqi war , helped to impliment Dayton?!?!
Not to state the obvious ,Question: Why Don't The Serbians in Kosovo invite Russian Spetznas to come set up a base and assist Kfor?

My there are some deluded Albanians with fanciful imaginations about Kosovo having an army and pilots being trained right now in Turkey.
Now back to reality boys, who is paying for this Kosova Army????????? The US, well I suggest you guys put in a request for money especially after this last storm in New York and see is you get enough to buy a cappuccino. The EU? The very latest on the financial crises is that they approached about a dozen or so of Asia’s banks for a loan of $1.5 trillion as a fighting war chest and in the end the best they got is $400 billion. Some clown mentioned UK and France helping Pristina with its army – yes both countries are going to reduce their military budgets to give to the Albanians – and pigs will fly. Where do you guys get this stuff from?
Now how much money can Pristina generate? Pristina is unable to generate enough to pay for one tenth of the current police let alone an army or teachers or hospitals. It’s all covered by Brussels.
So the Albanians need to take a nice hot shower and headache pills and keep on dreaming.
On the issue on NATO. It was once the most powerful battle group, but today it’s preparing to leave Afghanistan DEFEATED – you don’t survive something like that; NATO is dead.

What is bigger joke than Kosovo army? Kosovo national team! Are those albanians in Kosovo so dillusional or what?

I like the attitude of NATO that Kosovo should not have an army. If, against the will of NATO, Kosovo army is made,​​ what will NATO do?

Oh the glorious dreams of those living safely in other countries, about the magical Serb army swooping in and slaughtering the Albanians just so you can have a boost to your Serbian pride.
But alas it is a dream and one that will never come true.
==============================

We don't want to slaughter you or anyone else. We just want you to stop being stupid and give up on the UDI. We want our land back.
Live there, manage your own affairs but stop trying to expel the rest of us from there and stop trying to take what is not yours.

In other words, behave like the rest of people in Serbia and all will be good.

But you just stated the other day that they are the "lowest of the low". If they give up their UDI and join Serbia, Serbia will have to live together with 2M of the "lowest of the low"
=============================

Unfortunately, Serbs in Serbia are used to that. They already live with quite a bit of lowlife.
Take a look at who built that monument which was taken away.
Besides, not all in Kosovo are the lowest of the low. There were many Albanians who didn't want the KLA representing them but were forced to accept them and some were even killed by them.
There are many good decent Albanians in Kosovo still.
Unfortunately, they don't post here or have any say in what goes on over there. The would certainly be a good addition to Serbia.

So, no, I don't mean every Albanian is the lowest of the low. Many who do horrible things now are but sadly they come with the territory and I am sure that Serbia will be able to clean Kosovo to some extent. They will have to build a few more prisons but it time they would get there.

Kosovo wanting an army? These rabid "ex" US and Europe and elsewhere listed terrorists must be out of their evil blood thirsty minds!!!

Lenard

Great link. It suggest it is being made in Finland and not Croatia. Beside where does the link say EU is supporting a Kosovo albanian army? You make a statement and you supported with an entierly different subject. Me don't gets it!

Danilo, there are quite a few opinions of what happened in KiM in 1999, than the one expressed by Albanians here, and the propagandist US State Dept.
http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/keys.htm
http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/kosovo/kosovo-real-story.htm

Do you know that there is a country without territory a UN observer recognised by 104 countries Sovereign Military Order Of Malta and they even issue passports. Peggy or most here will never step in Kosovo but they want people there to live under rules of they will not have to follow.
(Alo Alo, 10 February 2013 02:47)
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You really don't make any sense at all.
I might never visit Kosovo, but, I fully support the wishes of the Serbian people and of other non Albanians living in Kosovo. Those people want Serbian rule there. I am not setting any rules of my own. I am supporting my people over there and fully stand behind them.

Now are you saying that Serbs and other non Albanians of Kosovo don't want to be part of Serbia?

Do you really think this didn't happen? that it's all lies?
(Danilo, 10 February 2013 12:16)
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Yep.

Since I do not understand how Serbian Diaspora loves war so much for land they will never live how absurd is it ( Ari, Peggy ...) people who do not live in Kosov speak about this land dont you think that people living there should decide?
Even in North they want to go under Serbia OK let them join no one will hear again for 4 mayors from north.

Do you know that there is a country without territory a UN observer recognised by 104 countries Sovereign Military Order Of Malta and they even issue passports. Peggy or most here will never step in Kosovo but they want people there to live under rules of they will not have to follow.

The organ harvesters, narco-terrorists, human traffickers, church burners and cemetery desecraters are too agressive, ambitious and evil to even posses gasoline and matches--and they are talking army?? WOW!

hahaha this news made me laugh...serbs are so desperate and mad at the same time....this is such BS

Then, you're simply a fool, Peggy.

Much of what the Milosevic regime did is a matter of their own public record.
(Danilo, 11 February 2013 02:44)
==============================

So you say.
There is also a lot of propaganda and straight out lies out there which you are so willing to embrace as the truth.
I am only a fool as far as you are concerned.
Who says that you are not a fool and an arrogant one at that.

Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz has stated that Kosovo should have its own army.
Yeah good idea, that way turkey is back again in the balkan.
A Kosovo army to protect serbia ....

Peggy,

reading your comments it's almost like you don't know that the situation for Albanians was one of apartheid from 1989 until the bombing.

Do you really think this didn't happen? that it's all lies?

Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz has stated that Kosovo should have its own army.

“Kosovo is an independent and sovereign state and it should have the same rights, no more and no less, as other countries in the region. Just like all other countries that have courts and other institutions like an army, Kosovo should be entitled to its army as well,”

Question: is the same true for the Kurds in Syria, Iraq and... Turkey?
No double standards!

Danilo, there are quite a few opinions of what happened in KiM in 1999, than the one expressed by Albanians here, and the propagandist US State Dept.
[link]
[link]
(Ecoman, 10 February 2013 12:42)

Sure, there are many opinion like, yours, mine, Mr. Čedomir's or Mr. David's but according to Vuk's UN that all Serbs love so much, this is what happened in Kosovo in 1999 (just a short summary):
http://www.icty.org/x/cases/milutinovic/tjug/en/090226summary.pdf

very interesting Peggy. I am 1000% certain that the (admittedly small) Turkish community does not want to be a part of Serbia and that they support independence. Same for the Croats of Janjev. so it seems you only support one group, the Kosova Serbs

. so it seems you only support one group, the Kosova Serbs
(Nikolle, 10 February 2013 23:56)
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You sure about that? A 1000% sure?
There are even some Albanians who didn't want the UDI.
Your lot expelled most of the ones who didn't agree with it. Some were even killed for not complying with the orders of KLA.

Terror will get you the desired results most of the time.

You would need it for Mitrovica, but after July 2011, the Albanian tough guys are dead ass frightened to go there and I cannot blame them.
(Ari Gold, 9 February 2013 18:30)

Not sure what business the Albanian tough guys would have in Mitrovica, but they do have business of collecting the customs duties at the Kosovo's boundaries as mandated by UNMIK and they are there doing just that.

Lenard

Great link. It suggests it's being made in Finland and not Croatia. Beside where does the link say EU is supporting a Kosovo Albanian's army? You make a statement and you supported with an entierly different subject. Me don't gets it!
(Hank the Tank, 10 February 2013 10:55) Croatia bought licence to build the Finish Patrica's. It has other good deals with Finland and Patrica Co also they are built in Croatia. Europeans have their own armoured vehicles http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/General_News/2011-05-27/19606/_Croatia_to_sell_six_APC_vehicles_to_EULEX_mission_in_Kosovo their these went to Kosovo Albanian forces.

We don't want to slaughter you or anyone else. We just want you to stop being stupid and give up on the UDI.
(Peggy, 9 February 2013 23:56)

But you just stated the other day that they are the "lowest of the low". If they give up their UDI and join Serbia, Serbia will have to live together with 2M of the "lowest of the low". I know you don't care because you live in Australia, but, for a Serb living in Serbia, for every three of his/her neighbors there will be one of the "lowest of the low" - that would be alarming for every Serb living in Serbia, which is why I don't blame the Serbs in Serbia for not following your advices.

On the issue on NATO. It was once the most powerful battle group, but today it’s preparing to leave Afghanistan DEFEATED – you don’t survive something like that; NATO is dead.
(sj, 10 February 2013 06:25)

Well, the man they were after is now reposing in peace at the bottom of the ocean... True, Afghans are continuing to kill themselves, but hey, it's not the job of NATO to waste their taxpayers money to make Afghans love each other. I understand that somebody hating NATO would love NATO to do that, but hey, NATO may be stupid, but not that stupid.

Mission completed, NATO should be back home, it's the Afghans' business to become a civilized country or not - but if you are so concerned about that, you are more then welcome to have Serbia go there and teach Afghans how to love each other.

As for NATO being the most powerful battle group, I though that somebody called sj had already ruled long time ago that they were all p... and wind, no ?

Then, you're simply a fool, Peggy.

Much of what the Milosevic regime did is a matter of their own public record.

Lenard

You said Croatia will sell armored vehicles to the Kosovo albanian army, the article said to the international mission in Kosovo. Those are two entierly different things.

very interesting Peggy. I am 1000% certain that the (admittedly small) Turkish community does not want to be a part of Serbia and that they support independence. Same for the Croats of Janjev. so it seems you only support one group, the Kosova Serbs
(Nikolle, 10 February 2013 23:56)

Hmmm, a very nice piece of revisionism. When the Serbs started to leave Kosovo due to Albanian humanitarian action these same people kicked out all other minorities including Turks and Croats as well as Albanian Roma.
As far as the Croats are concerned the Albanians had some justification because during operation Oluja they did the same with their people living in Croatia.
Today the poor Roma (these are all Muslim gypsies) are forced to live on the outskirts of Serb settlements for protection because their “brothers” would kill them.
Just keep on dreaming Nikolle.