Serbs in north Kosovo gather for protest rally

Nicely indoctrinating the children, and the 15 public sector "protesters". I am sure you will get a new raise in funds.

Isn't this child exploitation illegal?

Be strong, N. Kosovo Serbs, you have strong support from Serbs around the world, not to mention many foreign nations. . It would be one thing that what Albanians occupy was prosperous and peaceful, instead, they create hell holes, where poverty and conflict are their way of life. Believe me, if Pristina took over N. KiM, it would become another Albanian occupied hell hole. The N. KiM Serbs have a reason to resist, they are fighting for their lives, on their own ancestral lands.

Some of these so-called mayor also threatened with war (LOL) Why doesnt B92 write about that? Dont be one-sided.

4-10 thousand will impose their will to the rest of 1.8 million.
Hey serbs try to understand the word democracy,is the will of people or the with of the majority.
Get other 900 thousand and probably you are on right side.

Reporting of 5000 to 10000 by Serb media sources usually translates to 50 to 100.
If there were actually 10000 at the ralley reporting would have been 1 billion.

rally under the slogan, "Stop Brussels fraud and deceptions".

The slogan should be: "Stop Belgrade fraud and deceptions"

As soon as an article about Kosovo is written, Albanians jump to write their venom and lies before any Serb gets a chance even if the article is about what the Serbs are doing.
What are you guys so afraid of?
Do you think that coming on here and becoming a nuisance you are going to change what is going on there?
Do you think that distorting the truth, distorting what we write and simply wishing for something is going to make your wishes come true?

Hey, show us an Albanian site where we flock to it in order to needle you. There isn't because we simply don't give a damn what you think. If we don't go looking for your opinion why do you think your opinion here will matter? Your opinion is not wanted but you still push.

Don't use the "this is English site" and therefore it makes it your media.
Don't you have an English site too? How come we don't go there and give you the same "education"? We don't care about what you think so save your keystrokes here.

Are they all entrepreneurs?

Mirel, I'm sure where you come by your N. KiM demographics, but the actual population of Serbs in the north are between 45,000 and 50,000. In any case, by your own words, that constitutes a majority, and the majority in this case wants nothing to do with Pristina, as for recognize their UDI, you must be joking. So, Albanians, simply leave the Serbs in the North alone, they don't want to have any business with you.

"Some of these so-called mayor also threatened with war (LOL) Why doesnt B92 write about that? Dont be one-sided."

Bridge

If they did I'd love to read about it. Why don't you provide us with a link to that article? Could it be because it doesnt exist?
Didn't your mama tell you it wrong to lie?

koko, I see 4 maybe 5 kids in the photo, why do you think Serbian kids are being exploited? But what about this old guy, the new face of the EU, is this Albanian exploitation of their elderly?
http://newshopper.sulekha.com/kosovo-war-crimes_photo_1758310.htm

4-10 thousand will impose their will to the rest of 1.8 million.
Hey serbs try to understand the word democracy,is the will of people or the with of the majority.
Get other 900 thousand and probably you are on right side.
(Mirel from Albania, 30 January 2013 16:12)

Mirel try to understand the meaning of a "Republic"... in practice no country in the world is an actually "democracy", as totalitarianism of the majority is just as bad as a totalitarianism of a despot.
Meaning of a republic is the minority are given rights and protection, normally denied in a democracy

Albanians are not capable of giving minorities their rights. That's why not serbs or any other non albanian minority can accept to be dominated by albanians. Albanians are primitive and violent! It's a fact.
This is what greeks in Norther Epirus, Albania, have to endure:

"Eleni told me how the Greek community was afraid to speak Greek and felt discriminated against by the Albanian state."

"the Human Rights Watch released a report which focused on the treatment experienced by the Greek minority in Albania. Many serious problems remained concerning freedom of expression and religion."
http://www.defencegreece.com/index.php/2011/08/ethnic-tensions-in-albania/

This part of Albanian was once Greece. It should return to their rightfull owners. Freedom for Northern Epirus!

It's a very simple message: we fight against alban terror!

Their demands are political...it is not about hospitals, roads, education.....and all these crap news.....

These poor fools do not even know what they are protesting. It is clear they are simply confused and don't know who to believe. Using children to further their hopeless demonstration is despicable.

the world had enough of your B.S. Take it ir leave it, and if you decie to leave it, no more money for Serbia. It is time the thumbscrews are being put on. This unreal behavior has to end.
(werner Deuster, 30 January 2013 20:16)

The world has had enough of the democratic will of the people? Well I don't think you are right but in case you are, the 'world' will just have to live with it. If they have had enough, Mitrovica is not some mythical object, it stays in one place and you know where these people are.

If you are ready to exterminate 40,000 people come do it. So far, the West has proven they are not ready to take such a step and the Albanians although would love too, have proven physically incapable of doing such a thing (July 2011)

"Albanians are primitive and violent!"

...and despite our primitive and violent nature, its Serbs who have produced the biggest number of war criminlas since Nazi Germany :-) I shudder to think what you'd be like if you were more violent than Albanians :-)

These poor fools do not even know what they are protesting. It is clear they are simply confused and don't know who to believe. Using children to further their hopeless demonstration is despicable.
(The Count of Kosova, 30 January 2013 17:53)
This is an article about Albanians? No, I think you are wrong. You described Albanians in Kosovo perfectly. No, the article is acually about Serbs.

It's a very simple message: we fight against alban terror!
(Ratko, 30 January 2013 21:12)

What terror Ratko?

You love fighting...good luck in your lost wars!

the world had enough of your B.S. Take it ir leave it, and if you decie to leave it, no more money for Serbia. It is time the thumbscrews are being put on. This unreal behavior has to end.

Some of these so-called mayor also threatened with war (LOL) Why doesnt B92 write about that? Dont be one-sided.
(Bridge, 30 January 2013 16:24)

Because this would disturb and irritate each text where the Serbian propaganda speaks of "peaceful","civil disobedience" and the other lies. The Serbian side is not peaceful, it got pacified and soon pacification will get into the North.

To Peggy and others, The name on the site is B92, they have a staff of editors who are very busy editing each comment before allowing in to appear in print. They often refuse to print some comments, they have total control. If they do not want other points of view they are free to not allow them. They can just print those who agree with you.
So until they change the name to Peggy's B92 it is useless for you to come on here daily and tell all Albanians or non Serb supporters to quit posting.
And since this is about news in Serbia and not Australia what gives you more rights to be here than anyone else?
If you create your own blog you can control all the info put on there.

"...and announced that they would undertake all forms of civil disobedience, including setting up new roadblocks, in order to express their opposition."

Setting up road blocks have nothing to do with civil disobedience, and this will end this year, one way or another.

4-10 thousand will impose their will to the rest of 1.8 million.
Hey serbs try to understand the word democracy,is the will of people or the with of the majority.
Get other 900 thousand and probably you are on right side.
(Mirel from Albania, 30 January 2013 16:12)

How is that different from 34,000 in Presevo imposing their will on the rest of 7.18 million in Serbia? Oh wait, it is different since the 4 - 10 thousand are completely free of control of the 1.8 million while the 7.18 million can tell the 34,000 what to do. Hey Mirel, try to understand the word democracy. You shout it when your side is allegedly victimized and you condemn it when others are victims of your politics. The 34,000 might have the 1.8 million on its side, but the 4-10 thousand clearly has about 7 million on its side.

the world had enough of your B.S. Take it ir leave it, and if you decie to leave it, no more money for Serbia. It is time the thumbscrews are being put on. This unreal behavior has to end.
(werner Deuster, 30 January 2013 20:16)

What BS are you talking about? Public protest? Opposition to an unwanted government? The voice of the people? How is this unreal behavior to you? And what are you threatening with retaliation? Violence? Stop being stupid.

there there Peggy. what constructive thing do you add to debates here? an intelligent thing for you, is to write stuff like NATO is killing Serbs, Albanians are liars, Croats are Nazi collaborators and Srebrenica was not a genocide. you'll notice I have left stuff out, like Blair is a war criminal, and Sloba was misunderstood and apparently a CIA man (which you have actually written). its better to have people oppose your views isn't it? its also a lot more fun. if you only exchange opinions with other raving mad paranoid conspiracy believing nationalists like Ari Gold, Zoran, Jovan, Momilco, sj, Ivan...well...you'll be in agreement all the time, and where is the stimulation in that? however, to spare you all unpleasantries of having to cyber interact with those who don't think like you, well, you can always ignore us can't you? its really very easy

VS is the only chance of our survival in Kosovo.

We need to protect our citizens from Albanian invasion.

No offensives, just protection by the VS.

...and despite our primitive and violent nature, its Serbs who have produced the biggest number of war criminlas since Nazi Germany :-) I shudder to think what you'd be like if you were more violent than Albanians :-)
(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 23:01)
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That's not ture. Just because nobody is interested in rounding up your criminals and ghouls doesn't mean they are not out there and outnumber the Serbs behind bars.

and this will end this year, one way or another.
(John, 30 January 2013 19:46)

You were saying that last year and the year before.

"That's not ture. Just because nobody is interested in rounding up your criminals and ghouls doesn't mean they are not out there and outnumber the Serbs behind bars."

for sure they exist in your imagination Peggy don't worry :-)...the one of Serb ethnicity are actual, not fictional. maybe it would help if you read up on them

Sure, you can complain on why Albanians like me come here to share our opinion, but instead of complaining you should try to listen a little bit more.
Peace.
(blue and gold, 30 January 2013 23:39)
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Dear blue and gold, go tell it to your Albanian brothers and sisters on this site. They could do with less yap and more listening. All they come here for it to ridicule, irritate and spew venom.
Now I don't have any interest in going over to Albanian site. I did a few years ago visit there just to have a look and see just how liberal your media is.
I also tested it and found that there is no way they would accept from a non Albanian anything similar to what B92 accepts from you guys.
So I did test you guys and found you to be completely closed to any real criticism. I found your media to be a playground for Albanians who wish to badmouth and spread total BS and anyone dares to say to the contrary is quickly harassed and attacked from all.
So don't tell me to go anywhere near your media. I have no interest because I know.
I am not telling you to stay away. You definitely got that wrong. I just cannot understand why you come here to behave in such a bad way when you can do that so well and without anyone contradicting you on your own sites.
I suspect you guys come here to irritate because you don't have anything constructive to add.
Seeing how you don't have non Albanians on your own site to irritate your makeup forces you to come here.

Dear Peggy,
I am really sorry that you feel this way. Contrary to your opinion, I think B92 is doing a great job by giving both communities (Serbian and Albanians) an opportunity to share their opinion. Whether you agree with it or not, it doesn't really matter. The world of internet, for better or for worse, has given us an opportunity to share our views and opinions on issues that affect us. Albanians, including myself, are not coming to this site to try to change some else’s mind, especially Serb’s. We are here to share OUR point of view that sometimes Serbian people miss. At the same time, I am intrigued by the opinion of Serbian commentators in here, because I try to understand where the other side is coming from.
I think if people in all of former Yugoslavia did a lot of more listening and talking then fighting we would all be in a better place right now.
Sure, you can complain on why Albanians like me come here to share our opinion, but instead of complaining you should try to listen a little bit more.
Peace.

You love fighting...good luck in your lost wars!
(EA, 30 January 2013 23:05)

Weren't you one of the trolls calling for war on this site if the monument in Presevo was removed? Another conflict YOU lost, tough guy.

Poor these serbs receiving double and/or triple salaries, not paying taxes, not paying utility bills, and all own their businesses (isn't that the definition of entrepreneur?).

What a cruel world!! In other news UNAM is phasing out, yay.

TUng,

So, Albanians, simply leave the Serbs in the North alone, they don't want to have any business with you.
(Ecoman, 30 January 2013 17:25)

Of course... Kosovo's Constitution recognizes the right of the Serb's there to manage their own local affairs and there is nothing Albanians can do about it because Kosovo's Constitution cannot change without Serbs' consent.

But as far as customs duties are concerned, that is not a local affair and does not depend on the Albanians... They are mandated by UNMIK and since UNSCR 1244 is still in force, UNMIK's decisions are the law in Kosovo. I think all Serbs agree with that, don't they ?

"The citizens were seen carrying banners against the EU-sponsored Kosovo dialogue, calls for the Constitution and UN Resolution 1244 to be respected"

Not sure what Constitution they were referring to, Kosovo's or Serbia's, but anyway it is irrelevant. Kosovo is governed by UNSCR 1244 and other constitutions are irrelevant, and yes, Serbs' whishes will be heard and UNSCR 1244 will be respected with the collection of customs duties for goods destined to the area which is subject to UNSCR 1244 (i.e. Kosovo).

4-10 thousand will impose their will to the rest of 1.8 million.
Hey serbs try to understand the word democracy,is the will of people or the with of the majority.
Get other 900 thousand and probably you are on right side.

Nicely indoctrinating the children, and the 15 public sector "protesters". I am sure you will get a new raise in funds.

Isn't this child exploitation illegal?

Be strong, N. Kosovo Serbs, you have strong support from Serbs around the world, not to mention many foreign nations. . It would be one thing that what Albanians occupy was prosperous and peaceful, instead, they create hell holes, where poverty and conflict are their way of life. Believe me, if Pristina took over N. KiM, it would become another Albanian occupied hell hole. The N. KiM Serbs have a reason to resist, they are fighting for their lives, on their own ancestral lands.

These poor fools do not even know what they are protesting. It is clear they are simply confused and don't know who to believe. Using children to further their hopeless demonstration is despicable.

rally under the slogan, "Stop Brussels fraud and deceptions".

The slogan should be: "Stop Belgrade fraud and deceptions"

Some of these so-called mayor also threatened with war (LOL) Why doesnt B92 write about that? Dont be one-sided.

Reporting of 5000 to 10000 by Serb media sources usually translates to 50 to 100.
If there were actually 10000 at the ralley reporting would have been 1 billion.

As soon as an article about Kosovo is written, Albanians jump to write their venom and lies before any Serb gets a chance even if the article is about what the Serbs are doing.
What are you guys so afraid of?
Do you think that coming on here and becoming a nuisance you are going to change what is going on there?
Do you think that distorting the truth, distorting what we write and simply wishing for something is going to make your wishes come true?

Hey, show us an Albanian site where we flock to it in order to needle you. There isn't because we simply don't give a damn what you think. If we don't go looking for your opinion why do you think your opinion here will matter? Your opinion is not wanted but you still push.

Don't use the "this is English site" and therefore it makes it your media.
Don't you have an English site too? How come we don't go there and give you the same "education"? We don't care about what you think so save your keystrokes here.

Albanians are not capable of giving minorities their rights. That's why not serbs or any other non albanian minority can accept to be dominated by albanians. Albanians are primitive and violent! It's a fact.
This is what greeks in Norther Epirus, Albania, have to endure:

"Eleni told me how the Greek community was afraid to speak Greek and felt discriminated against by the Albanian state."

"the Human Rights Watch released a report which focused on the treatment experienced by the Greek minority in Albania. Many serious problems remained concerning freedom of expression and religion."
http://www.defencegreece.com/index.php/2011/08/ethnic-tensions-in-albania/

This part of Albanian was once Greece. It should return to their rightfull owners. Freedom for Northern Epirus!

It's a very simple message: we fight against alban terror!

Some of these so-called mayor also threatened with war (LOL) Why doesnt B92 write about that? Dont be one-sided.
(Bridge, 30 January 2013 16:24)

Because this would disturb and irritate each text where the Serbian propaganda speaks of "peaceful","civil disobedience" and the other lies. The Serbian side is not peaceful, it got pacified and soon pacification will get into the North.

the world had enough of your B.S. Take it ir leave it, and if you decie to leave it, no more money for Serbia. It is time the thumbscrews are being put on. This unreal behavior has to end.

Their demands are political...it is not about hospitals, roads, education.....and all these crap news.....

Are they all entrepreneurs?

"...and announced that they would undertake all forms of civil disobedience, including setting up new roadblocks, in order to express their opposition."

Setting up road blocks have nothing to do with civil disobedience, and this will end this year, one way or another.

koko, I see 4 maybe 5 kids in the photo, why do you think Serbian kids are being exploited? But what about this old guy, the new face of the EU, is this Albanian exploitation of their elderly?
http://newshopper.sulekha.com/kosovo-war-crimes_photo_1758310.htm

"Albanians are primitive and violent!"

...and despite our primitive and violent nature, its Serbs who have produced the biggest number of war criminlas since Nazi Germany :-) I shudder to think what you'd be like if you were more violent than Albanians :-)

It's a very simple message: we fight against alban terror!
(Ratko, 30 January 2013 21:12)

What terror Ratko?

You love fighting...good luck in your lost wars!

Mirel, I'm sure where you come by your N. KiM demographics, but the actual population of Serbs in the north are between 45,000 and 50,000. In any case, by your own words, that constitutes a majority, and the majority in this case wants nothing to do with Pristina, as for recognize their UDI, you must be joking. So, Albanians, simply leave the Serbs in the North alone, they don't want to have any business with you.

"Some of these so-called mayor also threatened with war (LOL) Why doesnt B92 write about that? Dont be one-sided."

Bridge

If they did I'd love to read about it. Why don't you provide us with a link to that article? Could it be because it doesnt exist?
Didn't your mama tell you it wrong to lie?

These poor fools do not even know what they are protesting. It is clear they are simply confused and don't know who to believe. Using children to further their hopeless demonstration is despicable.
(The Count of Kosova, 30 January 2013 17:53)
This is an article about Albanians? No, I think you are wrong. You described Albanians in Kosovo perfectly. No, the article is acually about Serbs.

the world had enough of your B.S. Take it ir leave it, and if you decie to leave it, no more money for Serbia. It is time the thumbscrews are being put on. This unreal behavior has to end.
(werner Deuster, 30 January 2013 20:16)

The world has had enough of the democratic will of the people? Well I don't think you are right but in case you are, the 'world' will just have to live with it. If they have had enough, Mitrovica is not some mythical object, it stays in one place and you know where these people are.

If you are ready to exterminate 40,000 people come do it. So far, the West has proven they are not ready to take such a step and the Albanians although would love too, have proven physically incapable of doing such a thing (July 2011)

4-10 thousand will impose their will to the rest of 1.8 million.
Hey serbs try to understand the word democracy,is the will of people or the with of the majority.
Get other 900 thousand and probably you are on right side.
(Mirel from Albania, 30 January 2013 16:12)

Mirel try to understand the meaning of a "Republic"... in practice no country in the world is an actually "democracy", as totalitarianism of the majority is just as bad as a totalitarianism of a despot.
Meaning of a republic is the minority are given rights and protection, normally denied in a democracy

Poor these serbs receiving double and/or triple salaries, not paying taxes, not paying utility bills, and all own their businesses (isn't that the definition of entrepreneur?).

What a cruel world!! In other news UNAM is phasing out, yay.

TUng,

Sure, you can complain on why Albanians like me come here to share our opinion, but instead of complaining you should try to listen a little bit more.
Peace.
(blue and gold, 30 January 2013 23:39)
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Dear blue and gold, go tell it to your Albanian brothers and sisters on this site. They could do with less yap and more listening. All they come here for it to ridicule, irritate and spew venom.
Now I don't have any interest in going over to Albanian site. I did a few years ago visit there just to have a look and see just how liberal your media is.
I also tested it and found that there is no way they would accept from a non Albanian anything similar to what B92 accepts from you guys.
So I did test you guys and found you to be completely closed to any real criticism. I found your media to be a playground for Albanians who wish to badmouth and spread total BS and anyone dares to say to the contrary is quickly harassed and attacked from all.
So don't tell me to go anywhere near your media. I have no interest because I know.
I am not telling you to stay away. You definitely got that wrong. I just cannot understand why you come here to behave in such a bad way when you can do that so well and without anyone contradicting you on your own sites.
I suspect you guys come here to irritate because you don't have anything constructive to add.
Seeing how you don't have non Albanians on your own site to irritate your makeup forces you to come here.

"The citizens were seen carrying banners against the EU-sponsored Kosovo dialogue, calls for the Constitution and UN Resolution 1244 to be respected"

Not sure what Constitution they were referring to, Kosovo's or Serbia's, but anyway it is irrelevant. Kosovo is governed by UNSCR 1244 and other constitutions are irrelevant, and yes, Serbs' whishes will be heard and UNSCR 1244 will be respected with the collection of customs duties for goods destined to the area which is subject to UNSCR 1244 (i.e. Kosovo).

So, Albanians, simply leave the Serbs in the North alone, they don't want to have any business with you.
(Ecoman, 30 January 2013 17:25)

Of course... Kosovo's Constitution recognizes the right of the Serb's there to manage their own local affairs and there is nothing Albanians can do about it because Kosovo's Constitution cannot change without Serbs' consent.

But as far as customs duties are concerned, that is not a local affair and does not depend on the Albanians... They are mandated by UNMIK and since UNSCR 1244 is still in force, UNMIK's decisions are the law in Kosovo. I think all Serbs agree with that, don't they ?

To Peggy and others, The name on the site is B92, they have a staff of editors who are very busy editing each comment before allowing in to appear in print. They often refuse to print some comments, they have total control. If they do not want other points of view they are free to not allow them. They can just print those who agree with you.
So until they change the name to Peggy's B92 it is useless for you to come on here daily and tell all Albanians or non Serb supporters to quit posting.
And since this is about news in Serbia and not Australia what gives you more rights to be here than anyone else?
If you create your own blog you can control all the info put on there.

"That's not ture. Just because nobody is interested in rounding up your criminals and ghouls doesn't mean they are not out there and outnumber the Serbs behind bars."

for sure they exist in your imagination Peggy don't worry :-)...the one of Serb ethnicity are actual, not fictional. maybe it would help if you read up on them

there there Peggy. what constructive thing do you add to debates here? an intelligent thing for you, is to write stuff like NATO is killing Serbs, Albanians are liars, Croats are Nazi collaborators and Srebrenica was not a genocide. you'll notice I have left stuff out, like Blair is a war criminal, and Sloba was misunderstood and apparently a CIA man (which you have actually written). its better to have people oppose your views isn't it? its also a lot more fun. if you only exchange opinions with other raving mad paranoid conspiracy believing nationalists like Ari Gold, Zoran, Jovan, Momilco, sj, Ivan...well...you'll be in agreement all the time, and where is the stimulation in that? however, to spare you all unpleasantries of having to cyber interact with those who don't think like you, well, you can always ignore us can't you? its really very easy

You love fighting...good luck in your lost wars!
(EA, 30 January 2013 23:05)

Weren't you one of the trolls calling for war on this site if the monument in Presevo was removed? Another conflict YOU lost, tough guy.

VS is the only chance of our survival in Kosovo.

We need to protect our citizens from Albanian invasion.

No offensives, just protection by the VS.

...and despite our primitive and violent nature, its Serbs who have produced the biggest number of war criminlas since Nazi Germany :-) I shudder to think what you'd be like if you were more violent than Albanians :-)
(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 23:01)
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That's not ture. Just because nobody is interested in rounding up your criminals and ghouls doesn't mean they are not out there and outnumber the Serbs behind bars.

the world had enough of your B.S. Take it ir leave it, and if you decie to leave it, no more money for Serbia. It is time the thumbscrews are being put on. This unreal behavior has to end.
(werner Deuster, 30 January 2013 20:16)

What BS are you talking about? Public protest? Opposition to an unwanted government? The voice of the people? How is this unreal behavior to you? And what are you threatening with retaliation? Violence? Stop being stupid.

Dear Peggy,
I am really sorry that you feel this way. Contrary to your opinion, I think B92 is doing a great job by giving both communities (Serbian and Albanians) an opportunity to share their opinion. Whether you agree with it or not, it doesn't really matter. The world of internet, for better or for worse, has given us an opportunity to share our views and opinions on issues that affect us. Albanians, including myself, are not coming to this site to try to change some else’s mind, especially Serb’s. We are here to share OUR point of view that sometimes Serbian people miss. At the same time, I am intrigued by the opinion of Serbian commentators in here, because I try to understand where the other side is coming from.
I think if people in all of former Yugoslavia did a lot of more listening and talking then fighting we would all be in a better place right now.
Sure, you can complain on why Albanians like me come here to share our opinion, but instead of complaining you should try to listen a little bit more.
Peace.

4-10 thousand will impose their will to the rest of 1.8 million.
Hey serbs try to understand the word democracy,is the will of people or the with of the majority.
Get other 900 thousand and probably you are on right side.
(Mirel from Albania, 30 January 2013 16:12)

How is that different from 34,000 in Presevo imposing their will on the rest of 7.18 million in Serbia? Oh wait, it is different since the 4 - 10 thousand are completely free of control of the 1.8 million while the 7.18 million can tell the 34,000 what to do. Hey Mirel, try to understand the word democracy. You shout it when your side is allegedly victimized and you condemn it when others are victims of your politics. The 34,000 might have the 1.8 million on its side, but the 4-10 thousand clearly has about 7 million on its side.

and this will end this year, one way or another.
(John, 30 January 2013 19:46)

You were saying that last year and the year before.