Serbia offers essential autonomy - "perhaps more"

Serbia offers essential autonomy - "perhaps more"

Hellooooo! It's the year 2013 - not 1974. What autonomy are you talking about, retard, did you forget that you lost a war and that Serbia was kicked out of Kosova?
In which parallel universe do you live?? Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.

Hellooooo! It's the year 2013 - not 1974. What autonomy are you talking about, retard, did you forget that you lost a war and that Serbia was kicked out of Kosova?
In which parallel universe do you live?? Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.
(Common Sense, 28 January 2013 14:31)

Albanians in Albania might have independence,but the Albanians in Kosovo*have 100% dependence.
You want more 100% truth?

"I express my sincere regret to all (Albanians) those who have suffered from behavior to which I am condemned," said Ojdanic

One of the top Serb military official in the 90's himself said that today! You cannot keep hiding your crimes serbia, we Albanians are angry and want to make you pay now...did we ever touch your churches before the war crimes - NO! it only started after what you did to our children and elderly.

If Serbia wants Northern Kosovo they better be prepared to give up the Presevo Valley.
(AC, 28 January 2013 13:48)
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LOL! We already have N.KiM and we also have Presevo Valley. You should visit some time and see for yourself.

Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.
(Common Sense, 28 January 2013 14:31)
independence...? What are you talking about? Your Terrorist regime isnt allowed do fart without your puppeteers approval. And your talking about independence. WAKE UP!

Serbia is not offering anything Kosovo wants, and yet they expect consessions from Kosovo. The only thing Kosovo wants from Serbia is full recognition. Anything less will not get Serbia anything. There is no way Kosovo will go back to the way things were. If Serbia wants Northern Kosovo they better be prepared to give up the Presevo Valley.
(AC, 28 January 2013 13:48)

Belgrade and Pristina are not equals and you should probably accept that. Furthermore, Mitrovica and Presevo are not equals, case in point:

When Pristina police units came to Mitrovica in July 2011 they were met with defeat and resulted in the death of one police officer (although I'd call him a terrorist)

When Belgrade police units came to Presevo to remove the monument, there was nothing the Albanians could do because the West refused to support the Albanians.

Accept reality man.

Zoran,How do you have norhern Kosovo ? Don't you think you need a permission to visit Nothern Kosovo,There is a Border you have to cross.And we Albanians are giving you time to think and learn from Croatias Serbs mistakes and there is time limit too,if not the same fate you will have as Serbs of ''Republika Srpska''.
(Renato, 28 January 2013 16:11)
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No, I don't need permission, why should I? I just flash my Licna Karta at the administrative line (i.e. to EULEX) and I go through. When I cross over I see Serbian flags and "This is Serbia" signs everywhere. I use Serbian dinars and connect to Serbian telecommunications. I use Serbian banks and I see cars with Serbian plates. I mean, you think that is "Kosova"*? LOL!

But I understand your point. Just like the Croatians, K*-Albanians want to complete the genocide committed against Serbs also. We know you want that and so do your supporters, like roberto and willi, but I'm wondering.... why don't you just go ahead and do it?

Serbia is not offering anything Kosovo wants, and yet they expect consessions from Kosovo. The only thing Kosovo wants from Serbia is full recognition. Anything less will not get Serbia anything. There is no way Kosovo will go back to the way things were. If Serbia wants Northern Kosovo they better be prepared to give up the Presevo Valley.

IDIOTS!!!!!!!!

AC,

After Kosovo's declaration of independence, after being recognized by nearly 100 countries, after the ICJ's opinion... tell me, why are you still crying for Serbia's recognition of Kosovo?
Is there something wrong with your independence, something that the ICJ didn't want to speak about? Tell me.

Kosovo is a defacto protectorate. It matters little if the local Albanians try to declare a udi - what matters is how autonomous the Albanians are 'allowed' to be.

I have said before - Serbia should tell the EU and everyone else in sight, that whatever 'recognitions' the Albanians may have found for their territorial expansion, the land is still Serbia, and the only way Pristina can be allowed to communicate with Serbia is on the basis of an autonomy recognised by Serbia. This article essentially says that - now it is for the rest of the world to understand that the udi attempt is tenuous, but the recognised autonomy is real.

Recognised autonomy should be set for a time period - say 100 years. In the meantime that relative stability gives space for the international military to run down their presence and for things to change on the ground - hopefully for the better.

The joke of two side-by-side Albanias is not a stable solution. An accepted autonomous buffer is.

"and rejected accusations that he himself had received "scholarship from Thaci's government", saying that he did receive financial assistance to finish his master's degree, and explaining: "


Oh wizard lord, that was so much good information.

Zoran,How do you have norhern Kosovo ? Don't you think you need a permission to visit Nothern Kosovo,There is a Border you have to cross.And we Albanians are giving you time to think and learn from Croatias Serbs mistakes and there is time limit too,if not the same fate you will have as Serbs of ''Republika Srpska''.

An interesting link to a B92 article from November 20, 2007

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=20&nav_id=45548

Where Serbia was offering "essential autonomy" but the surprise was the suggestion of a "neutral status" suggested by the US and rejected by Serbia. Now it is Serbia that is constantly insisting on "status neutrality".

"We can discuss essential autonomy, perhaps a little more than that, such as membership in some international organizations, perhaps they could play football in competitions - but not the UN."

What a good guy.He is offering things that Serbia has no saying at all.None of those depends on Serbia. The UN seat depends on Russia and China.Kosovo in FIFA or UEFA depends on a UN seat. Offer your "esential autonomy" to Presevo,Vojvodina and Sandzjak.

Hellooooo! It's the year 2013 - not 1974. What autonomy are you talking about, retard, did you forget that you lost a war and that Serbia was kicked out of Kosova?
In which parallel universe do you live?? Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.
(Common Sense, 28 January 2013 14:31)

You seem pretty upset. Those who truly have things don't need to constantly remind everyone. You look pretty insecure over your "independence" just by your comment. Again I say, North Korea does not beg South Korea for recognition because both understand to be independent and are recognized by the UN and everyone else.

On the other hand, what dominates the media in Pristina these days is still...Serbia. You DEPEND on your protection from NATO (you didn't win any war against Serbs, ever) and you DEPEND on corrupt traitorous politicians in Serbia to meet with you.

Dependence, take the IN part out my friend.

Serbia offers essential autonomy - "perhaps more"

What about ice cream? Seriously. Don't joke about ice cream.


Tung,

Still dreaming nothing new...

Serbia can offer authonomy,and they can take it back if they want like they did in 1989.Like they are playing with Vojvodina.The authonomy card has been burned in 1999.
Either serbs think albanians and their allies are fool or they are so high in drugs.Otherwise I can not explain the Pantic statement.It looks like Pantic,just woke up after 14 years of sleep.
Kosova has its own gonv,president,parliament,has been recognised as independent by majority of UN,NATO and EU members has won its case in IJC.
So Pantic want Kosova to say all 98 countries that have recongnised as independent,sorry guys we want to be under Serbia again,and Pantic and Dacic is our leader.R u guys serious or this clowns have nothing to kill the time?
Serbia and its allies can block Kosovo in UN,but Kosovo and its allies can block Serbia in EU.
If Serbia and its sick people like Pantic,can handle that OK,than bring it on.We have less to lose than Serbia.

Belgrade is ready to reach a compromise with Kosovo and is offering to essentiat join Albania as one independent country.

What do they call this? Another platform.

Is this a joke, where do they live?

Ari: "Those who truly have things don't need to constantly remind everyone. You look pretty insecure over your "independence" just by your comment. Again I say, North Korea does not beg South Korea for recognition because both understand to be independent and are recognized by the UN and everyone else."

Ari, is this your argument? Because we constantly remind you, that means that we are not independent? America celebrates 4th of July every year, does that means that they are insecure about their independence too? And if British kept telling them, that they are still Royal subjects, don't you think Americans would be in their right to tell them otherwise? Don't you understand how silly, this theater of yours has become?

How about this: we constantly remind you because of the stupid statements like the ones made in this article, that you constantly make. We are independent of you! Your own head of state can not set foot on our soil, without our permission. Does that make it clear for you?

Are we dependent on NATO, EU or US? Yes, but so is the majority of the word. Isn't S Korea dependent on the US for military protection?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno&feature=player_detailpage#t=245s

Why do you all make this so difficult? If Serbia doesn't stop the craziness, Kosova will be represented in the UN by Albania and the plight that they are being put through for its own seat will cease.

Albania will begin to issue Albanian passports to the Kosovars shortly, making the creation of the natural Albanian state a reality. Serbia is only accelerating it with its arrogance.

Game over.

You seem pretty upset. Those who truly have things don't need to constantly remind everyone. You look pretty insecure over your "independence" just by your comment. Again I say, North Korea does not beg South Korea for recognition because both understand to be independent and are recognized by the UN and everyone else.

On the other hand, what dominates the media in Pristina these days is still...Serbia. You DEPEND on your protection from NATO (you didn't win any war against Serbs, ever) and you DEPEND on corrupt traitorous politicians in Serbia to meet with you.

Dependence, take the IN part out my friend.
(Ari Gold, 28 January 2013 19:47)

Why would North Korea (aka the Democratic People's Republic of Korea) want to be recognised by South Korea (aka the Republic of Korea) and vice versa, when both claim to be the sole legitimate Korea and they both have a claim over one another's territory?

And yes Kosovo is a dependent country just like every other country in the Balkans. However Kosovo is only dependent on the West; whereas Serbia is dependent on the West, Russia, China and others yet Serbia's economy is still in decline despite all these parties throwing money at it; Kosovo's economy on the other hand is steadily growing.

Give that" Autonomy perhaps more"to Vojvodina and Sanxhak.Thank you but thank you we do not want it !!!When we had it you did not not want us to have it...Now is to late and you have no say about it.Hope you never recognise us ,we do not want Kosova independent,we want Kosova part of ALBANIA.The question is not if you recognise Kosova but if Kosova recognises you and that will never happen.

Sorry to tell you Serbs but as much as I know someone can offer less or more to the other when the last one is asking something. Can you tell us who was the last Albanian asked you anything the last twelve years? Each day you will have one of your government giving ideas about Albanians and Kosova. Well tell them it is simply just time and energies to lose. They (Albanians and Kosova ) are not any more your problem, take care of your problems...or continue bla bla bla.. Tung from Albania.

Another stupid idea Bob. Autonomy for 100 years and then revoke it again Sloba style so we can start another war? Brilliant! I'm surprised you didn't write anything about the mono ethnic nature of Albanian nationalism (which would imply that Albanians only breed with Albanians). As for Serbia making the world see, well, e world has seen, which is why all bar 5 EU states recognise the state of Kosova (I'm leaving out Japan, USA, Canada...etc)

I want what this guy is having...He seems to be living in a great fantasy lol

"One of the top Serb military official in the 90's himself said that today! You cannot keep hiding your crimes serbia, we Albanians are angry and want to make you pay now...did we ever touch your churches before the war crimes - NO! it only started after what you did to our children and elderly.
(KOSOVA, 28 January 2013 20:14) "

What a liar. Another daily alban propagandist anti-serb comment. It's getting so old. Don't you get tired of writing this garbage everyday?

We can easily live without an UN seat if you can live without EU membership ?

If Serbia wants ti live in poverty like the people in Russia then say No to EU and "fight" for Kosova. If that happends we Albanians can play rough and clear the Serbs from northern Kosova like Croatia did in Krajina. And if you dear to attack with military Kosova will also have an military. But the most important, American backup!

But Pantic and me are talking nonsens since Dacic knowes what he has to do. That is why he mentions UN seat for Kosova. UN seat for Kosova = recognition of Kosova independence = faster EU membership for Serbia.

Even northern Kosova will not get autonomy from Prishtina. That is what Pantic wants.

We have less to lose than Serbia.
(Mirel from Albania, 28 January 2013 17:26)

That's only true if you talking about teeth and underwear.

So let's try to understand what this guy is offering compared to the current situation.

Current situation:
- Kosovo is independent from Serbia. That is beyond dispute. All stakeholders, Serbia included, agree that Kosovo is independent from Serbia and Serbia is not in charge in Kosovo. Kosovo inhabitants, Serbs included, don't do what Belgrade says. Sure, let's say that Kosovo is dependent on US, NATO, etc. etc. and that is fine, but there is no dispute that it is independent from Serbia;
- Kosovo is recognized by 98 countries;
- Kosovo is not a UN member for now.

Pantic's offer:
- Kosovo should happily agree to give up its independence from Serbia for the generous offer of autonomy+ under Serbia;
- Kosovo should happily renounce the recognition of 98 countries;
- Kosovo still does not get to become a UN member.

I'm sure if the above offer had been made 25 years ago it had some chance to be accepted. But we're not 25 years ago and Kosovo may be stupid but not that stupid to just give things up in order to make Pantic happy.

Kosovo's economy is growing. This is a fact. Insanity is denying something because you simply wish it weren't the case.
(Ian, UK, 29 January 2013 10:54)

Whatever you are taking please cut the dosage. Kosovo’s economy growing? While the rest of Europe and western countries are in either recession or even depression, Kosovo’s economy is growing.
How? Kosovo has officially an unemployment level of 45%, but in fact it’s closer to 70%. It officially has 30% of its population living below the poverty line, but unofficially it’s more like 70%.
Please stop writing rubbish.

I'm speechless!!

Thanks for your ''generosity''....gospodin Krstimir Pantic.....plate-overthrow.

Isn't that like a father whose daughter is married and already has a couple of children and he announces that he might consider letting her date?

I appreciate the fact that you do not hide your insanity anymore. Pretty soon Ian will tell us Kosovo i Metohija will be invited to join the G7
(Ari Gold, 29 January 2013 05:03)

Kosovo's economy is growing. This is a fact. Insanity is denying something because you simply wish it weren't the case.

Serbia offers essential autonomy - "perhaps more"

On the "perhaps more" part, offer them all the pizza they can eat and see what they say.

Kosovo's economy on the other hand is steadily growing.
(Ian, UK, 28 January 2013 20:32)

I appreciate the fact that you do not hide your insanity anymore. Pretty soon Ian will tell us Kosovo i Metohija will be invited to join the G7

@ Ari Gold, 28 January 2013 19:47

Why would North Korea (aka the Democratic People's Republic of Korea) want to be recognised by South Korea (aka the Republic of Korea) and vice versa, when both claim to be the sole legitimate Korea and they both have a claim over one another's territory?

And yes Kosovo is a dependent country just like every other country in the Balkans. However Kosovo is only dependent on the West; whereas Serbia is dependent on the West, Russia, China and others yet Serbia's economy is still in decline despite all these parties throwing money at it; Kosovo's economy on the other hand is steadily growing.
(Ian, UK, 28 January 2013 20:32)

Hey Ian, when you get paged to go to work for emergency rescue, do you get paid double for this?
Believe me college guy, you are not the only paid Albanian trouble shooter on this site with student loans and an appetite for high class night life.

Isn't that like a father whose daughter is married and already has a couple of children and he announces that he might consider letting her date?
(pss, 29 January 2013 06:34)
Let’s use you analogy and call the daughter Kosovo and lest say Kosovo has several children. However, those children have to be fed and clothed so daddy has to let Kosovo date otherwise its starvation for Kosovo and her offspring.
The only county against this idea is the Washington dimwits and they have been fighting against this, but as the EU has been telling the Americans, if you feel that strongly just take over the paying Kosovo’s bills otherwise shut up.

The only county against this idea is the Washington dimwits and they have been fighting against this, but as the EU has been telling the Americans, if you feel that strongly just take over the paying Kosovo’s bills otherwise shut up.
(sj, 29 January 2013 11:47)
Even in your self created reality that you live in you know that this is nothing but a lie. And I am sure you wish everyone who sees through your charade which has to be 100% of the non Serb population and at least 90% of the Serbs( they do not contradict you because they wish you were right) would shut up as you say.
Seriously are there people that trust you to handle money?
Oh and on my analogy which was way over your head for you to catch, the thing was a daughter who had already MARRIED and had children and the father announces he is ready to agree for her to date.
Like Kosovo has been gone from Serbia for 13 years almost 14, has taken its own course and is now recognized in its new position by half the world and Serbia announces if nice they are willing to let Kosovo live under Serbian rule with autonomy.

Bob, 28 January 2013 16:55)
The thing you don't get is Serbia has been saying pretty much what you are up to now and you know what, no one outside of Serbia believes it is the ruler of the world and really do not care. So say all you like.

Whatever you are taking please cut the dosage. Kosovo’s economy growing? While the rest of Europe and western countries are in either recession or even depression, Kosovo’s economy is growing.
How? Kosovo has officially an unemployment level of 45%, but in fact it’s closer to 70%. It officially has 30% of its population living below the poverty line, but unofficially it’s more like 70%.
Please stop writing rubbish.
(sj, 29 January 2013 11:40)

We've already established that you struggle with maths because according to you 7.7% = 1 in 5

And "unoffically" = sj's secret inside knowledge?

(Ian, UK, 29 January 2013 13:22)

Oh you mean UK’s level of unemployment. And when mummy sends you to the market to sell the cow make sure you don’t get swindled by trading it for magic beans.
Over the years I have come to realize that there are extremely gullible and naïve people by the millions that believe the information a government tells them, especially in the west where freedom and democracy stops politicians from telling tales.
Yeah UK 7.7% while the US is 7.8%, but why do both countries continue to borrow money on the open market if the economies are so good???? I am from Australia and its official unemployment is 5.6%, but its common knowledge amongst the stock market and elsewhere that the real level of unemployment is 12%. I can assure you that Australians have a far better living standard than UK.
Yes Albanian maths goes something like 1 + 1 = 7 and there are money trees that you can plant to live an endless life of leisure and the roads in Washington are paved in gold.

I am from Australia and its official unemployment is 5.6%, but its common knowledge amongst the stock market and elsewhere that the real level of unemployment is 12%.
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Unless we kick out the Gillard government we will be in the same boat as the Yanks. Ready to do that in September?
Problem is that nothing gets reversed.
Same thing in Serbia. Tadic out, Nikolic in and the Serbs of Kosovo keep getting tormented and their property destroyed.
We can only hope that the next government here and in Serbia does a better job with the economy. Kosovo is out of reach and they will remain a black hole until they realize there is no way forward without Serbia.

"we want Kosova part of ALBANIA.
(Albani, 28 January 2013 21:1
Did You learn above sentence from your general
George Maniakes to Roman:
"I wanted all Greace to be Albania"(Ohrid 1042 yr.)
Maniakes is big looser,you are not far from them today.

(pss, 29 January 2013 14:04)

In my business I don’t deal with individuals but corporations, but enough said about me. The most difficult point for some people to understand is the reality of money – its is the most sobering factor that we have as human beings. That is why the west is sinking in debt and the East is rising. It’s nothing new as this has been repeated over the centuries with the Roman and British empires. People in these empires lose their sense of what is reality and what is fantasy and that is why they fade into history. Much like you Albanians. Money grows on trees and for Kosovo it’s a matter of simple planting these trees.

The US; the most important item on the agenda for Obama after being sworn in was to extend the debate of lifting the foreign debt to May. That was his first priority, not Medicare or defence etc but extend that date to lift the debt about 16.4 trillion. The EU is having its won little problems. Now how do you think Kosovo is going to survive financially on its own? Remember that Slovenia is having big problems and the EU will not help it.

When you answer this question honestly you will reach the same conclusion.

(sj, 30 January 2013 08:31)

My UK region "Yorkshire and Humber" has the second highest Unemployment rate in the UK, which is currently at 8.8% (above the national average). That is nowhere near the 20% which you claim.

You think Auatralians have a better living standard than the UK? Really? We get the impression you're rather poor and can't afford to travel abroad. You don't actually have these fancy life styles which is portrayed in "Home & Away" and in "Neighbours". When I've travelled to Australia to visit my extended family (victims of the ten pound passage scheme following WW2), I get the feeling that the film "Muriel's Wedding" is a better portrayal of real Australian life style compared to your trashy soaps. And the living standards in rural Australia are certainly nothing to be proud of.

As you know lots of Brits emigrate to Australia, but I often wonder why many return. Probably because it isn't all it is cracked up to be and us Brits aren't big fans of Skin Cancer either. And yes you have a good health care system... if you can afford it, which many can't and they only have basic care.

(Peggy, 30 January 2013 10:47)
You have nailed it right on the head. Politicians that are not work spitting on if they were on fire.
Let’s hope things improve especially in Serbia (when I say Serbia it also means RS) where they have had a hard time for far too long.
.Kosovo is going nowhere soon – they can’t stand on their own feet without the EU paying Kosovo’s way.

oh sj, is there anything you don't know :-) ?

oh sj, is there anything you don't know :-) ?
(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 12:03)

The two most important things to know in life is how politics and finance work and when you know these two important things then you know everything that there is to know.
Money is God on this earth. People kill for it or kill by the millions.
And yes I am that good.

(Ian, UK, 30 January 2013 11:12)
Your young doctors fill our hospital. Your people who worked in finance live in Australia because there is little work left there and I have good friends who are of English background that have family there and they visit them regularly. It is people. like these that say that every time they return it gets worse.
The closest you have ever got to Australia is Home and Away mate. An Albanian a ten pound pom?? Next you’ll be telling me you have relatives on the first fleet and Arthur Phillip was an Uncle.
And the medical health system is not basic; it’s very good.

Your young doctors fill our hospital. Your people who worked in finance live in Australia because there is little work left there and I have good friends who are of English background that have family there and they visit them regularly. It is people. like these that say that every time they return it gets worse.
The closest you have ever got to Australia is Home and Away mate. An Albanian a ten pound pom?? Next you’ll be telling me you have relatives on the first fleet and Arthur Phillip was an Uncle.
And the medical health system is not basic; it’s very good.
(sj, 30 January 2013 13:51)

Yes young people are the biggest group amongst the unemployed in Britain as Employers can afford to pick and choose whom they employ, they tent to go for people who have experience of working before instead of students who've never had a full time job before and are likely to leave when a better job becomes available. And I know people who have left Britain "for good" but have returned from Australia as it wasn't the paradise they had expected it to be.

I have been to Australia before, I've speant three months travelling in Australia staying with my family who are dotted all over the country. My grandfather was one of seven siblings who remained in the Britain, the rest wanted to start life fresh after their home was destroyed during the Blitz of Glasgow.

I never said that the health care of Australia was basic. However acording to you, you only have the one hospital.

oh yes sj, I have seen your infinite wisdom don't worry. am surprised you haven't taken over the world yet, given how smart you are :-)
(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 19:51)
I only ask a simple question that no one Albanian has managed to answer properly in the last 4 years. How is Kosovo going to survive on its own without EU assistance? When you honestly answer this question you then come to the same conclusion – it must return to Serbia.
Hey look at Slovenia; it’s in turmoil everyday and the EU is not coming to its aid, and I can tell you the Germans love Slovenes as they consider them “Germanized” and close to them whereas Albanians are ?? work it out for yourself.

(Pls say it ain't so!!!, 30 January 2013 15:46)

Yes it was obvious that the US would create this Kosovo- in fact it was one of the worst kept secrets. The US is run by the greatest halfwits known to man today. They are the same people that have the US in debt to the tune of 16.4 trillion and rising; the same people who meddled in the Arab Spring and through their stupidity brought to power fundamental Islamists, the same people that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and lost both wars and through their own idiocy think they can take over Syria. Only smart people admit their mistakes while the dumb ones try and coverthemt up.
“Wake up and smell the reality, ohh why do I even bother” If it’s such a foregone conclusion as you see it then why bother with Belgrade??? Belgrade is unimportant surely you have over 100 countries recognizing Kosovo? About 90% of those countries are third world poverty stricken crap holes purchased with small change.
Now you see why I’m so smart -

Now you see why I’m so smart -
(sj, 30 January 2013 23:37)

Far from smart Slick; nationalist yes, smart, damn far from that.

Worst kept secret!!! OK, this is when I should turn off my laptop, but I will not just so I can educate you, yet again. You’re either way too young, or you just don’t read much or all the above.

Here’s what being smart is all about. Being able to get that very superpower to bomb your ‘precious’ country for days and weeks and seeing your army leave Kosova with their tails between their legs. That didn’t happen overnight, this was planned and premeditated. It took us quite a while, but we won.

Lost both wars?! Afghanistan and Iraq!! Are you insane? Are you getting these news from “Bin Laden Daily”?!

Sj says:
If it’s such a foregone conclusion as you see it then why bother with Belgrade??? Belgrade is unimportant surely you have over 100 countries recognizing Kosovo?

We are not, you folk are all up our grill. We don’t care for Belgrade, just get off of our backs; enough already.

Sk says:
Belgrade is unimportant surely you have over 100 countries recognizing Kosovo? About 90% of those countries are third world poverty stricken crap holes purchased with small change.

LOL; not sure if you’re a sports fan or not, but at the end of the day a W is a W (win). But we do have all the superpowers backing us up….. ops sorry…

and yes, I agree, Belgrade is unimportant.

Now you see why I’m so smart -
(sj, 30 January 2013 23:37)

Absolutely, only smart people can create virtual worlds

How is Kosovo going to survive on its own without EU assistance? When you honestly answer this question you then come to the same conclusion – it must return to Serbia.
(sj, 30 January 2013 23:24)

I agree... as soon as Serbia resolves http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?mm=7&dd=21&yyyy=2012, http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=11&dd=20&nav_id=83245, http://www.b92.net/eng/news/business-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=17&nav_id=83701, http://www.b92.net/eng/news/business-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=01&dd=23&nav_id=84301, etc.

I'm sure Albanians appreciate your concern for them, but unfortunately Serbia will deal first with the issues of Serbs above, before helping the Albanians.

The two most important things to know in life is how politics and finance work and when you know these two important things then you know everything that there is to know.
Money is God on this earth. People kill for it or kill by the millions.
And yes I am that good.
(sj, 30 January 2013 13:41)

WOW take it easy professor, you're way to "smart" for us!!!

You're good at acknowledging that money and smart politics are the way to go?!! Genius....WOW I'm so impressed.

Slick, if we were not aware of this years back, do you think that independent Kosova would have existed today?!! You are WAY behind the game.

Wake up and smell the reality, ohh why do I even bother....

oh yes sj, I have seen your infinite wisdom don't worry. am surprised you haven't taken over the world yet, given how smart you are :-)

"...it must return to Serbia. "

:-) oh no no sj, I am aware of this point of view, you've been writing it here since I remember. i still can't get my head round this fact, EU can't take care of Kosova but nearly bankrupt Serbia can :-). only a 'financier' can come up with something so smart. I'd like to know your real name, so I can buy your books and lose myself in your wisdom...please share, don't leave simpletons like me behind :-)

(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 23:51)
The EU plan is for Kosovo to integrate with Belgrade financially because Kosovo cannot stand on its own. As industry opens in the rest of Serbia it is Brussels desire to negotiate free movement of your rabble to allow them to find work in Serbia. This reindustrialization will not happen in the next two weeks but over say a period of 10 years.
Brussels does not plan to feed Kosovo for ever so they are looking at every way of easing their burden. It’s plain and simple capitalism. If you people can’t see this coming then I’m sorry for you and I’d be very interested to hear you version of how is Kosovo going to survive and pay its way.
You find that people who write books on finance come in two categories – the first is text books for senior school and universities and the other type write them to show how you can become a millionaire the easy way. These guys get rich not playing the stock market but selling crap to simpletons. I don’t write books.
Remember this. Since the fall of communism there is no such thing as a free lunch and that includes Kosovo. Its either pay your way or die.

Absolutely, only smart people can create virtual worlds
(icj1, 31 January 2013 05:22)
As I live in a virtual world I’d like you to tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own?.

As I live in a virtual world I’d like you to tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own?.
(sj, 31 January 2013 13:06)

I did not say that you live in a virtual world and I did not say that Kosovo is going to survive on its own... All I've said is that Serbia certainly is not in a position to help Kosovo survive when Serbia has 10000 children who have only one meal per day, tens of thousands of others who live in poverty, a fourth of the workforce unemployed, etc, etc... You can click the link "Economic crisis in Serbia" on the right of this page for more details.

So Serbia is the last entity which could help Kosovo to survive. Serbia would be the last thing in this world Kosovo would join in order to survive.

Serbia is not offering anything Kosovo wants, and yet they expect consessions from Kosovo. The only thing Kosovo wants from Serbia is full recognition. Anything less will not get Serbia anything. There is no way Kosovo will go back to the way things were. If Serbia wants Northern Kosovo they better be prepared to give up the Presevo Valley.
(AC, 28 January 2013 13:48)

Belgrade and Pristina are not equals and you should probably accept that. Furthermore, Mitrovica and Presevo are not equals, case in point:

When Pristina police units came to Mitrovica in July 2011 they were met with defeat and resulted in the death of one police officer (although I'd call him a terrorist)

When Belgrade police units came to Presevo to remove the monument, there was nothing the Albanians could do because the West refused to support the Albanians.

Accept reality man.

Serbia is not offering anything Kosovo wants, and yet they expect consessions from Kosovo. The only thing Kosovo wants from Serbia is full recognition. Anything less will not get Serbia anything. There is no way Kosovo will go back to the way things were. If Serbia wants Northern Kosovo they better be prepared to give up the Presevo Valley.

Serbia offers essential autonomy - "perhaps more"

Hellooooo! It's the year 2013 - not 1974. What autonomy are you talking about, retard, did you forget that you lost a war and that Serbia was kicked out of Kosova?
In which parallel universe do you live?? Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.

If Serbia wants Northern Kosovo they better be prepared to give up the Presevo Valley.
(AC, 28 January 2013 13:48)
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LOL! We already have N.KiM and we also have Presevo Valley. You should visit some time and see for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno&feature=player_detailpage#t=245s

Zoran,How do you have norhern Kosovo ? Don't you think you need a permission to visit Nothern Kosovo,There is a Border you have to cross.And we Albanians are giving you time to think and learn from Croatias Serbs mistakes and there is time limit too,if not the same fate you will have as Serbs of ''Republika Srpska''.

Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.
(Common Sense, 28 January 2013 14:31)
independence...? What are you talking about? Your Terrorist regime isnt allowed do fart without your puppeteers approval. And your talking about independence. WAKE UP!

AC,

After Kosovo's declaration of independence, after being recognized by nearly 100 countries, after the ICJ's opinion... tell me, why are you still crying for Serbia's recognition of Kosovo?
Is there something wrong with your independence, something that the ICJ didn't want to speak about? Tell me.

Zoran,How do you have norhern Kosovo ? Don't you think you need a permission to visit Nothern Kosovo,There is a Border you have to cross.And we Albanians are giving you time to think and learn from Croatias Serbs mistakes and there is time limit too,if not the same fate you will have as Serbs of ''Republika Srpska''.
(Renato, 28 January 2013 16:11)
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No, I don't need permission, why should I? I just flash my Licna Karta at the administrative line (i.e. to EULEX) and I go through. When I cross over I see Serbian flags and "This is Serbia" signs everywhere. I use Serbian dinars and connect to Serbian telecommunications. I use Serbian banks and I see cars with Serbian plates. I mean, you think that is "Kosova"*? LOL!

But I understand your point. Just like the Croatians, K*-Albanians want to complete the genocide committed against Serbs also. We know you want that and so do your supporters, like roberto and willi, but I'm wondering.... why don't you just go ahead and do it?

Kosovo is a defacto protectorate. It matters little if the local Albanians try to declare a udi - what matters is how autonomous the Albanians are 'allowed' to be.

I have said before - Serbia should tell the EU and everyone else in sight, that whatever 'recognitions' the Albanians may have found for their territorial expansion, the land is still Serbia, and the only way Pristina can be allowed to communicate with Serbia is on the basis of an autonomy recognised by Serbia. This article essentially says that - now it is for the rest of the world to understand that the udi attempt is tenuous, but the recognised autonomy is real.

Recognised autonomy should be set for a time period - say 100 years. In the meantime that relative stability gives space for the international military to run down their presence and for things to change on the ground - hopefully for the better.

The joke of two side-by-side Albanias is not a stable solution. An accepted autonomous buffer is.

"I express my sincere regret to all (Albanians) those who have suffered from behavior to which I am condemned," said Ojdanic

One of the top Serb military official in the 90's himself said that today! You cannot keep hiding your crimes serbia, we Albanians are angry and want to make you pay now...did we ever touch your churches before the war crimes - NO! it only started after what you did to our children and elderly.

Belgrade is ready to reach a compromise with Kosovo and is offering to essentiat join Albania as one independent country.

Hellooooo! It's the year 2013 - not 1974. What autonomy are you talking about, retard, did you forget that you lost a war and that Serbia was kicked out of Kosova?
In which parallel universe do you live?? Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.
(Common Sense, 28 January 2013 14:31)

Albanians in Albania might have independence,but the Albanians in Kosovo*have 100% dependence.
You want more 100% truth?

Still dreaming nothing new...

Another stupid idea Bob. Autonomy for 100 years and then revoke it again Sloba style so we can start another war? Brilliant! I'm surprised you didn't write anything about the mono ethnic nature of Albanian nationalism (which would imply that Albanians only breed with Albanians). As for Serbia making the world see, well, e world has seen, which is why all bar 5 EU states recognise the state of Kosova (I'm leaving out Japan, USA, Canada...etc)

Why do you all make this so difficult? If Serbia doesn't stop the craziness, Kosova will be represented in the UN by Albania and the plight that they are being put through for its own seat will cease.

Albania will begin to issue Albanian passports to the Kosovars shortly, making the creation of the natural Albanian state a reality. Serbia is only accelerating it with its arrogance.

Game over.

"and rejected accusations that he himself had received "scholarship from Thaci's government", saying that he did receive financial assistance to finish his master's degree, and explaining: "


Oh wizard lord, that was so much good information.

An interesting link to a B92 article from November 20, 2007

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=20&nav_id=45548

Where Serbia was offering "essential autonomy" but the surprise was the suggestion of a "neutral status" suggested by the US and rejected by Serbia. Now it is Serbia that is constantly insisting on "status neutrality".

Serbia can offer authonomy,and they can take it back if they want like they did in 1989.Like they are playing with Vojvodina.The authonomy card has been burned in 1999.
Either serbs think albanians and their allies are fool or they are so high in drugs.Otherwise I can not explain the Pantic statement.It looks like Pantic,just woke up after 14 years of sleep.
Kosova has its own gonv,president,parliament,has been recognised as independent by majority of UN,NATO and EU members has won its case in IJC.
So Pantic want Kosova to say all 98 countries that have recongnised as independent,sorry guys we want to be under Serbia again,and Pantic and Dacic is our leader.R u guys serious or this clowns have nothing to kill the time?
Serbia and its allies can block Kosovo in UN,but Kosovo and its allies can block Serbia in EU.
If Serbia and its sick people like Pantic,can handle that OK,than bring it on.We have less to lose than Serbia.

What do they call this? Another platform.

Is this a joke, where do they live?

"We can discuss essential autonomy, perhaps a little more than that, such as membership in some international organizations, perhaps they could play football in competitions - but not the UN."

What a good guy.He is offering things that Serbia has no saying at all.None of those depends on Serbia. The UN seat depends on Russia and China.Kosovo in FIFA or UEFA depends on a UN seat. Offer your "esential autonomy" to Presevo,Vojvodina and Sandzjak.

Serbia offers essential autonomy - "perhaps more"

What about ice cream? Seriously. Don't joke about ice cream.


Tung,

I want what this guy is having...He seems to be living in a great fantasy lol

Hellooooo! It's the year 2013 - not 1974. What autonomy are you talking about, retard, did you forget that you lost a war and that Serbia was kicked out of Kosova?
In which parallel universe do you live?? Albanians have independence, and you're offering them autonomy? You take the definition of insanity to a whole new level.
(Common Sense, 28 January 2013 14:31)

You seem pretty upset. Those who truly have things don't need to constantly remind everyone. You look pretty insecure over your "independence" just by your comment. Again I say, North Korea does not beg South Korea for recognition because both understand to be independent and are recognized by the UN and everyone else.

On the other hand, what dominates the media in Pristina these days is still...Serbia. You DEPEND on your protection from NATO (you didn't win any war against Serbs, ever) and you DEPEND on corrupt traitorous politicians in Serbia to meet with you.

Dependence, take the IN part out my friend.

"One of the top Serb military official in the 90's himself said that today! You cannot keep hiding your crimes serbia, we Albanians are angry and want to make you pay now...did we ever touch your churches before the war crimes - NO! it only started after what you did to our children and elderly.
(KOSOVA, 28 January 2013 20:14) "

What a liar. Another daily alban propagandist anti-serb comment. It's getting so old. Don't you get tired of writing this garbage everyday?

Bob, 28 January 2013 16:55)
The thing you don't get is Serbia has been saying pretty much what you are up to now and you know what, no one outside of Serbia believes it is the ruler of the world and really do not care. So say all you like.

@ Ari Gold, 28 January 2013 19:47

Why would North Korea (aka the Democratic People's Republic of Korea) want to be recognised by South Korea (aka the Republic of Korea) and vice versa, when both claim to be the sole legitimate Korea and they both have a claim over one another's territory?

And yes Kosovo is a dependent country just like every other country in the Balkans. However Kosovo is only dependent on the West; whereas Serbia is dependent on the West, Russia, China and others yet Serbia's economy is still in decline despite all these parties throwing money at it; Kosovo's economy on the other hand is steadily growing.
(Ian, UK, 28 January 2013 20:32)

Hey Ian, when you get paged to go to work for emergency rescue, do you get paid double for this?
Believe me college guy, you are not the only paid Albanian trouble shooter on this site with student loans and an appetite for high class night life.

IDIOTS!!!!!!!!

We have less to lose than Serbia.
(Mirel from Albania, 28 January 2013 17:26)

That's only true if you talking about teeth and underwear.

Give that" Autonomy perhaps more"to Vojvodina and Sanxhak.Thank you but thank you we do not want it !!!When we had it you did not not want us to have it...Now is to late and you have no say about it.Hope you never recognise us ,we do not want Kosova independent,we want Kosova part of ALBANIA.The question is not if you recognise Kosova but if Kosova recognises you and that will never happen.

Thanks for your ''generosity''....gospodin Krstimir Pantic.....plate-overthrow.

Sorry to tell you Serbs but as much as I know someone can offer less or more to the other when the last one is asking something. Can you tell us who was the last Albanian asked you anything the last twelve years? Each day you will have one of your government giving ideas about Albanians and Kosova. Well tell them it is simply just time and energies to lose. They (Albanians and Kosova ) are not any more your problem, take care of your problems...or continue bla bla bla.. Tung from Albania.

You seem pretty upset. Those who truly have things don't need to constantly remind everyone. You look pretty insecure over your "independence" just by your comment. Again I say, North Korea does not beg South Korea for recognition because both understand to be independent and are recognized by the UN and everyone else.

On the other hand, what dominates the media in Pristina these days is still...Serbia. You DEPEND on your protection from NATO (you didn't win any war against Serbs, ever) and you DEPEND on corrupt traitorous politicians in Serbia to meet with you.

Dependence, take the IN part out my friend.
(Ari Gold, 28 January 2013 19:47)

Why would North Korea (aka the Democratic People's Republic of Korea) want to be recognised by South Korea (aka the Republic of Korea) and vice versa, when both claim to be the sole legitimate Korea and they both have a claim over one another's territory?

And yes Kosovo is a dependent country just like every other country in the Balkans. However Kosovo is only dependent on the West; whereas Serbia is dependent on the West, Russia, China and others yet Serbia's economy is still in decline despite all these parties throwing money at it; Kosovo's economy on the other hand is steadily growing.

Serbia offers essential autonomy - "perhaps more"

On the "perhaps more" part, offer them all the pizza they can eat and see what they say.

We can easily live without an UN seat if you can live without EU membership ?

If Serbia wants ti live in poverty like the people in Russia then say No to EU and "fight" for Kosova. If that happends we Albanians can play rough and clear the Serbs from northern Kosova like Croatia did in Krajina. And if you dear to attack with military Kosova will also have an military. But the most important, American backup!

But Pantic and me are talking nonsens since Dacic knowes what he has to do. That is why he mentions UN seat for Kosova. UN seat for Kosova = recognition of Kosova independence = faster EU membership for Serbia.

Even northern Kosova will not get autonomy from Prishtina. That is what Pantic wants.

I'm speechless!!

Kosovo's economy on the other hand is steadily growing.
(Ian, UK, 28 January 2013 20:32)

I appreciate the fact that you do not hide your insanity anymore. Pretty soon Ian will tell us Kosovo i Metohija will be invited to join the G7

Ari: "Those who truly have things don't need to constantly remind everyone. You look pretty insecure over your "independence" just by your comment. Again I say, North Korea does not beg South Korea for recognition because both understand to be independent and are recognized by the UN and everyone else."

Ari, is this your argument? Because we constantly remind you, that means that we are not independent? America celebrates 4th of July every year, does that means that they are insecure about their independence too? And if British kept telling them, that they are still Royal subjects, don't you think Americans would be in their right to tell them otherwise? Don't you understand how silly, this theater of yours has become?

How about this: we constantly remind you because of the stupid statements like the ones made in this article, that you constantly make. We are independent of you! Your own head of state can not set foot on our soil, without our permission. Does that make it clear for you?

Are we dependent on NATO, EU or US? Yes, but so is the majority of the word. Isn't S Korea dependent on the US for military protection?

So let's try to understand what this guy is offering compared to the current situation.

Current situation:
- Kosovo is independent from Serbia. That is beyond dispute. All stakeholders, Serbia included, agree that Kosovo is independent from Serbia and Serbia is not in charge in Kosovo. Kosovo inhabitants, Serbs included, don't do what Belgrade says. Sure, let's say that Kosovo is dependent on US, NATO, etc. etc. and that is fine, but there is no dispute that it is independent from Serbia;
- Kosovo is recognized by 98 countries;
- Kosovo is not a UN member for now.

Pantic's offer:
- Kosovo should happily agree to give up its independence from Serbia for the generous offer of autonomy+ under Serbia;
- Kosovo should happily renounce the recognition of 98 countries;
- Kosovo still does not get to become a UN member.

I'm sure if the above offer had been made 25 years ago it had some chance to be accepted. But we're not 25 years ago and Kosovo may be stupid but not that stupid to just give things up in order to make Pantic happy.

Kosovo's economy is growing. This is a fact. Insanity is denying something because you simply wish it weren't the case.
(Ian, UK, 29 January 2013 10:54)

Whatever you are taking please cut the dosage. Kosovo’s economy growing? While the rest of Europe and western countries are in either recession or even depression, Kosovo’s economy is growing.
How? Kosovo has officially an unemployment level of 45%, but in fact it’s closer to 70%. It officially has 30% of its population living below the poverty line, but unofficially it’s more like 70%.
Please stop writing rubbish.

Whatever you are taking please cut the dosage. Kosovo’s economy growing? While the rest of Europe and western countries are in either recession or even depression, Kosovo’s economy is growing.
How? Kosovo has officially an unemployment level of 45%, but in fact it’s closer to 70%. It officially has 30% of its population living below the poverty line, but unofficially it’s more like 70%.
Please stop writing rubbish.
(sj, 29 January 2013 11:40)

We've already established that you struggle with maths because according to you 7.7% = 1 in 5

And "unoffically" = sj's secret inside knowledge?

"we want Kosova part of ALBANIA.
(Albani, 28 January 2013 21:1
Did You learn above sentence from your general
George Maniakes to Roman:
"I wanted all Greace to be Albania"(Ohrid 1042 yr.)
Maniakes is big looser,you are not far from them today.

I appreciate the fact that you do not hide your insanity anymore. Pretty soon Ian will tell us Kosovo i Metohija will be invited to join the G7
(Ari Gold, 29 January 2013 05:03)

Kosovo's economy is growing. This is a fact. Insanity is denying something because you simply wish it weren't the case.

Isn't that like a father whose daughter is married and already has a couple of children and he announces that he might consider letting her date?
(pss, 29 January 2013 06:34)
Let’s use you analogy and call the daughter Kosovo and lest say Kosovo has several children. However, those children have to be fed and clothed so daddy has to let Kosovo date otherwise its starvation for Kosovo and her offspring.
The only county against this idea is the Washington dimwits and they have been fighting against this, but as the EU has been telling the Americans, if you feel that strongly just take over the paying Kosovo’s bills otherwise shut up.

oh sj, is there anything you don't know :-) ?

(sj, 30 January 2013 08:31)

My UK region "Yorkshire and Humber" has the second highest Unemployment rate in the UK, which is currently at 8.8% (above the national average). That is nowhere near the 20% which you claim.

You think Auatralians have a better living standard than the UK? Really? We get the impression you're rather poor and can't afford to travel abroad. You don't actually have these fancy life styles which is portrayed in "Home & Away" and in "Neighbours". When I've travelled to Australia to visit my extended family (victims of the ten pound passage scheme following WW2), I get the feeling that the film "Muriel's Wedding" is a better portrayal of real Australian life style compared to your trashy soaps. And the living standards in rural Australia are certainly nothing to be proud of.

As you know lots of Brits emigrate to Australia, but I often wonder why many return. Probably because it isn't all it is cracked up to be and us Brits aren't big fans of Skin Cancer either. And yes you have a good health care system... if you can afford it, which many can't and they only have basic care.

The two most important things to know in life is how politics and finance work and when you know these two important things then you know everything that there is to know.
Money is God on this earth. People kill for it or kill by the millions.
And yes I am that good.
(sj, 30 January 2013 13:41)

WOW take it easy professor, you're way to "smart" for us!!!

You're good at acknowledging that money and smart politics are the way to go?!! Genius....WOW I'm so impressed.

Slick, if we were not aware of this years back, do you think that independent Kosova would have existed today?!! You are WAY behind the game.

Wake up and smell the reality, ohh why do I even bother....

Isn't that like a father whose daughter is married and already has a couple of children and he announces that he might consider letting her date?

The only county against this idea is the Washington dimwits and they have been fighting against this, but as the EU has been telling the Americans, if you feel that strongly just take over the paying Kosovo’s bills otherwise shut up.
(sj, 29 January 2013 11:47)
Even in your self created reality that you live in you know that this is nothing but a lie. And I am sure you wish everyone who sees through your charade which has to be 100% of the non Serb population and at least 90% of the Serbs( they do not contradict you because they wish you were right) would shut up as you say.
Seriously are there people that trust you to handle money?
Oh and on my analogy which was way over your head for you to catch, the thing was a daughter who had already MARRIED and had children and the father announces he is ready to agree for her to date.
Like Kosovo has been gone from Serbia for 13 years almost 14, has taken its own course and is now recognized in its new position by half the world and Serbia announces if nice they are willing to let Kosovo live under Serbian rule with autonomy.

(pss, 29 January 2013 14:04)

In my business I don’t deal with individuals but corporations, but enough said about me. The most difficult point for some people to understand is the reality of money – its is the most sobering factor that we have as human beings. That is why the west is sinking in debt and the East is rising. It’s nothing new as this has been repeated over the centuries with the Roman and British empires. People in these empires lose their sense of what is reality and what is fantasy and that is why they fade into history. Much like you Albanians. Money grows on trees and for Kosovo it’s a matter of simple planting these trees.

The US; the most important item on the agenda for Obama after being sworn in was to extend the debate of lifting the foreign debt to May. That was his first priority, not Medicare or defence etc but extend that date to lift the debt about 16.4 trillion. The EU is having its won little problems. Now how do you think Kosovo is going to survive financially on its own? Remember that Slovenia is having big problems and the EU will not help it.

When you answer this question honestly you will reach the same conclusion.

(Ian, UK, 29 January 2013 13:22)

Oh you mean UK’s level of unemployment. And when mummy sends you to the market to sell the cow make sure you don’t get swindled by trading it for magic beans.
Over the years I have come to realize that there are extremely gullible and naïve people by the millions that believe the information a government tells them, especially in the west where freedom and democracy stops politicians from telling tales.
Yeah UK 7.7% while the US is 7.8%, but why do both countries continue to borrow money on the open market if the economies are so good???? I am from Australia and its official unemployment is 5.6%, but its common knowledge amongst the stock market and elsewhere that the real level of unemployment is 12%. I can assure you that Australians have a far better living standard than UK.
Yes Albanian maths goes something like 1 + 1 = 7 and there are money trees that you can plant to live an endless life of leisure and the roads in Washington are paved in gold.

I am from Australia and its official unemployment is 5.6%, but its common knowledge amongst the stock market and elsewhere that the real level of unemployment is 12%.
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Unless we kick out the Gillard government we will be in the same boat as the Yanks. Ready to do that in September?
Problem is that nothing gets reversed.
Same thing in Serbia. Tadic out, Nikolic in and the Serbs of Kosovo keep getting tormented and their property destroyed.
We can only hope that the next government here and in Serbia does a better job with the economy. Kosovo is out of reach and they will remain a black hole until they realize there is no way forward without Serbia.

oh sj, is there anything you don't know :-) ?
(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 12:03)

The two most important things to know in life is how politics and finance work and when you know these two important things then you know everything that there is to know.
Money is God on this earth. People kill for it or kill by the millions.
And yes I am that good.

(Ian, UK, 30 January 2013 11:12)
Your young doctors fill our hospital. Your people who worked in finance live in Australia because there is little work left there and I have good friends who are of English background that have family there and they visit them regularly. It is people. like these that say that every time they return it gets worse.
The closest you have ever got to Australia is Home and Away mate. An Albanian a ten pound pom?? Next you’ll be telling me you have relatives on the first fleet and Arthur Phillip was an Uncle.
And the medical health system is not basic; it’s very good.

(Peggy, 30 January 2013 10:47)
You have nailed it right on the head. Politicians that are not work spitting on if they were on fire.
Let’s hope things improve especially in Serbia (when I say Serbia it also means RS) where they have had a hard time for far too long.
.Kosovo is going nowhere soon – they can’t stand on their own feet without the EU paying Kosovo’s way.

Your young doctors fill our hospital. Your people who worked in finance live in Australia because there is little work left there and I have good friends who are of English background that have family there and they visit them regularly. It is people. like these that say that every time they return it gets worse.
The closest you have ever got to Australia is Home and Away mate. An Albanian a ten pound pom?? Next you’ll be telling me you have relatives on the first fleet and Arthur Phillip was an Uncle.
And the medical health system is not basic; it’s very good.
(sj, 30 January 2013 13:51)

Yes young people are the biggest group amongst the unemployed in Britain as Employers can afford to pick and choose whom they employ, they tent to go for people who have experience of working before instead of students who've never had a full time job before and are likely to leave when a better job becomes available. And I know people who have left Britain "for good" but have returned from Australia as it wasn't the paradise they had expected it to be.

I have been to Australia before, I've speant three months travelling in Australia staying with my family who are dotted all over the country. My grandfather was one of seven siblings who remained in the Britain, the rest wanted to start life fresh after their home was destroyed during the Blitz of Glasgow.

I never said that the health care of Australia was basic. However acording to you, you only have the one hospital.

oh yes sj, I have seen your infinite wisdom don't worry. am surprised you haven't taken over the world yet, given how smart you are :-)

oh yes sj, I have seen your infinite wisdom don't worry. am surprised you haven't taken over the world yet, given how smart you are :-)
(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 19:51)
I only ask a simple question that no one Albanian has managed to answer properly in the last 4 years. How is Kosovo going to survive on its own without EU assistance? When you honestly answer this question you then come to the same conclusion – it must return to Serbia.
Hey look at Slovenia; it’s in turmoil everyday and the EU is not coming to its aid, and I can tell you the Germans love Slovenes as they consider them “Germanized” and close to them whereas Albanians are ?? work it out for yourself.

(Pls say it ain't so!!!, 30 January 2013 15:46)

Yes it was obvious that the US would create this Kosovo- in fact it was one of the worst kept secrets. The US is run by the greatest halfwits known to man today. They are the same people that have the US in debt to the tune of 16.4 trillion and rising; the same people who meddled in the Arab Spring and through their stupidity brought to power fundamental Islamists, the same people that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and lost both wars and through their own idiocy think they can take over Syria. Only smart people admit their mistakes while the dumb ones try and coverthemt up.
“Wake up and smell the reality, ohh why do I even bother” If it’s such a foregone conclusion as you see it then why bother with Belgrade??? Belgrade is unimportant surely you have over 100 countries recognizing Kosovo? About 90% of those countries are third world poverty stricken crap holes purchased with small change.
Now you see why I’m so smart -

"...it must return to Serbia. "

:-) oh no no sj, I am aware of this point of view, you've been writing it here since I remember. i still can't get my head round this fact, EU can't take care of Kosova but nearly bankrupt Serbia can :-). only a 'financier' can come up with something so smart. I'd like to know your real name, so I can buy your books and lose myself in your wisdom...please share, don't leave simpletons like me behind :-)

Now you see why I’m so smart -
(sj, 30 January 2013 23:37)

Far from smart Slick; nationalist yes, smart, damn far from that.

Worst kept secret!!! OK, this is when I should turn off my laptop, but I will not just so I can educate you, yet again. You’re either way too young, or you just don’t read much or all the above.

Here’s what being smart is all about. Being able to get that very superpower to bomb your ‘precious’ country for days and weeks and seeing your army leave Kosova with their tails between their legs. That didn’t happen overnight, this was planned and premeditated. It took us quite a while, but we won.

Lost both wars?! Afghanistan and Iraq!! Are you insane? Are you getting these news from “Bin Laden Daily”?!

Sj says:
If it’s such a foregone conclusion as you see it then why bother with Belgrade??? Belgrade is unimportant surely you have over 100 countries recognizing Kosovo?

We are not, you folk are all up our grill. We don’t care for Belgrade, just get off of our backs; enough already.

Sk says:
Belgrade is unimportant surely you have over 100 countries recognizing Kosovo? About 90% of those countries are third world poverty stricken crap holes purchased with small change.

LOL; not sure if you’re a sports fan or not, but at the end of the day a W is a W (win). But we do have all the superpowers backing us up….. ops sorry…

and yes, I agree, Belgrade is unimportant.

Now you see why I’m so smart -
(sj, 30 January 2013 23:37)

Absolutely, only smart people can create virtual worlds

How is Kosovo going to survive on its own without EU assistance? When you honestly answer this question you then come to the same conclusion – it must return to Serbia.
(sj, 30 January 2013 23:24)

I agree... as soon as Serbia resolves http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?mm=7&dd=21&yyyy=2012, http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=11&dd=20&nav_id=83245, http://www.b92.net/eng/news/business-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=17&nav_id=83701, http://www.b92.net/eng/news/business-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=01&dd=23&nav_id=84301, etc.

I'm sure Albanians appreciate your concern for them, but unfortunately Serbia will deal first with the issues of Serbs above, before helping the Albanians.

(Nikolle, 30 January 2013 23:51)
The EU plan is for Kosovo to integrate with Belgrade financially because Kosovo cannot stand on its own. As industry opens in the rest of Serbia it is Brussels desire to negotiate free movement of your rabble to allow them to find work in Serbia. This reindustrialization will not happen in the next two weeks but over say a period of 10 years.
Brussels does not plan to feed Kosovo for ever so they are looking at every way of easing their burden. It’s plain and simple capitalism. If you people can’t see this coming then I’m sorry for you and I’d be very interested to hear you version of how is Kosovo going to survive and pay its way.
You find that people who write books on finance come in two categories – the first is text books for senior school and universities and the other type write them to show how you can become a millionaire the easy way. These guys get rich not playing the stock market but selling crap to simpletons. I don’t write books.
Remember this. Since the fall of communism there is no such thing as a free lunch and that includes Kosovo. Its either pay your way or die.

Absolutely, only smart people can create virtual worlds
(icj1, 31 January 2013 05:22)
As I live in a virtual world I’d like you to tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own?.

As I live in a virtual world I’d like you to tell me how is Kosovo going to survive on its own?.
(sj, 31 January 2013 13:06)

I did not say that you live in a virtual world and I did not say that Kosovo is going to survive on its own... All I've said is that Serbia certainly is not in a position to help Kosovo survive when Serbia has 10000 children who have only one meal per day, tens of thousands of others who live in poverty, a fourth of the workforce unemployed, etc, etc... You can click the link "Economic crisis in Serbia" on the right of this page for more details.

So Serbia is the last entity which could help Kosovo to survive. Serbia would be the last thing in this world Kosovo would join in order to survive.