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Saturday, 26.01.2013.

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DSS leader calls on PM Dačić to resign

The Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) leader says PM Ivica Dačić should resign because of “harmful decisions that are pushing Serbia deeper into the crisis“.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

What Kostunica is saying is spot on as always.
(Zoran, 27 January 2013 20:16)

Yeah... It's shame that the majority of the Serbs do not like to be on the same spot as Vojislav :)

Skifteri

pre 11 godina

Of course an agreed solution reached 20 or 10 years ago would have been a much better one for Serbia than one that can be reached today.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 January 2013 14:56
_______________________

It is logical to say that now knowing how events have turned out.
It would have been heresy to discuss a compromise in Belgrade in the 90s especially since they were confident they would continue to rule Prishtina.

They obviousily miscalculated wether the west would intervene and underestimated Albanian resolve for independence.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Kosovo slips away, government economic policy appears non existent. The only positive is the flagship anti corruption policy, but how serious is it, or is that window dressing?
(bganon, 28 January 2013 12:35)
====================================
Yep, I think it is.
Citizens of Serbia have been lied to and betrayed by all. Nothing unique here. Same thing happens all over the world.
We all need a fresh batch of politicians or a revolution. Sounds drastic and is drastic but no matter who we vote for we are let down.

marKo

pre 11 godina

part of the problem with Serbian politics is that there is no graduating class for the major parties. The same old politicians keep coming out again. I think Kostunica is wonderful, but he isn't exactly arousing passions. Dacic is a survivor, he is a great political tactition, but he is not a statesman. I don't think Nikolic can or will trust Dacic indefinitely, nor should he. The DS destroyed their own brand, and have not brought new faces or new leadership to bear. An old lieutenant in the personage of the mayor of belgrade, with a life time of political baggage is the best they could muster. Just the other day they were whining of persecution and unfreindly media (after a decade of control of that media) Yes it seems you are right. Serbian politics are old and lack vision. Even still its nice to hear from you.

bganon

pre 11 godina

marKo can you imagine Kostunica stealing anybodies girlfriend lol? That would be too decisive for him, I think he would prefer to do nothing and to bitch about how that guy wasn't good enough for her! People would tell him how principled he was for not stealing her, when in his heart he knew really it was because he wasn't capable of doing so...

For me its not just about the politics he represents, its about that "can't do" attitude, its about the lack of solutions, its about the internal fear of failure leading one to do nothing but talk.

So for me its philosophical as well as political. And although you say I have it wrong about Kostunica, is there not truth in what I say?

And you know, life gets in the way a bit. Part of it is disillusion with the government, what is there to say really? The speeches of Dacic bring on a case of vomitus on a constant basis, lying has become an art form with him the likes of which Orwell warned about. Nikolic was propelled into power through the mythical vote fraud which was not investigated as promised, most likely due to the fact it never happened.

Djilas seizes power at DS - even after all these years I don't know what he stands for politically. Could it be because the man has no principles or political philosophy?

Kosovo slips away, government economic policy appears non existent. The only positive is the flagship anti corruption policy, but how serious is it, or is that window dressing?

marKo

pre 11 godina

bganon you only come out of retirement to slam Kostunica, did he steal your girlfriend? Just kidding of course. Where have you been as of late. I don't like your politics, but you are rational and come by most of your opinions honestly and I enjoy reading your posts even when you are wrong about Kostunica.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 January 2013 21:03)
--
Your comment represents 0% of voters so shall we discard it? It really is pointless because far more than 7% of voters would agree with his position.

Firstly support for EU membership is less than 50% and I bet the far majority would prefer the constitutional court uphold the constitution instead of the agenda of political parties.

What Kostunica is saying is spot on as always.

bganon

pre 11 godina

So what took Kostunica so long to see what Dacic was doing on Kosovo when it is evident for many months now?

Or is it about something else? Has Kostunica been advised to go ahead with this speech after holding back for so long because DSS efforts to make a deal with the government have been rebuffed? And / or is it because DSS have heard on the grapevine that the two headed beast of Dacic / Nikolic are going to engineer a grand coalition with Djilas in order to 'solve' the issue of Kosovo once and for all - with western backing?

Freezing the Kosovo issue as Kostunica likes to say was first the policy of the Jugoslav government until 1989. Then it was the real policy of Milosevic (despite the talk) for long periods until 1999. Then it was the policy of the post 2000 government. Where did that ever get Serbia Mr Kostunica? Whilst fools like you, who are always bereft of ideas, wanted to freeze the Kosovo issue - might it have helped in actually trying to achieve a solution while there was still time?

Doesn't matter now though, its too late for Kostunica and its too late for the average guy on the street to impact on what will happen in the future. They surrendered Kosovo with their fear and inability to compromise and signed an agreement undermining Serbian sovereignty. Now all we will get is scraps and some sovereignty in the north.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Whilst fools like you, who are always bereft of ideas, wanted to freeze the Kosovo issue - might it have helped in actually trying to achieve a solution while there was still time? "
(bganon, 27 January 2013 14:03)

Of course an agreed solution reached 20 or 10 years ago would have been a much better one for Serbia than one that can be reached today.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.
=============================
Funny, you don't seem to have the same message for Cedo.
Anyway, let's wait and see how many seats Kostunica picks up in the next election.
I think people know they were tricked by Nikolic and Dacic and will reward them accordingly.

winston

pre 11 godina

Rocky, is your comment what you truly believe will happen, or what you would love to happen, driven by your feelings about Serbia? You, like so many anti-Serb anything, here, are not ever taken seriously in any of your comments, because you are driven by hate, not logic. HAND (have a nice day).

marKo

pre 11 godina

At some point the electorate has to realize that the only thing the EU is offering Serbia is future consideration. It is not offering to pay us for anything, it is not admitting that mistakes were made against the Serbian people, it is not offering a sustainable plan. All it offers us is the promise that if we do everything that they can think to tell us, they will be nicer to us in the future.

But why would they? Why should they? If Serbia is to abandon its own interests, and be willingly subservient to whatever Europe's latest fancy is, they can not treat us as a partner.

Dacic thinks that he can win Europe over by doing everything they ask. Ask yourself a scenario where that has worked in politics or business?

We should treat Europe in the manner that we would like to be treated, and our expectation should be reciprocal. If Europe does not reciprocate we should treat it as it treats us. Serbia is broken but not dead. Europe needs to grow or die. In the very long run the EU will need the Balkans more than the Balkans need the EU. In the short term, and in the last decade, Serbia has gained nothing from, and can gain nothing from its policy of appeasement towards Brussels.


Suspend appeasement, and slowly and organically expand co-operation on the basis of mutual interest.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.

What kind of sense does it make to come up with stupid and unrealistic statements and demands almost every day? Dacic shall resign, Nicolic shall resign, constitutional court judges shall resign, blablabla...

Let's hope DSS will be below the threshold in the next elections, then he hopefully will a bit more quiet.

Marius

pre 11 godina

Geez. You don't need to like Dacic at all to see that Koštunica's term as PM was a total, utter failure for Serbia. If he had any guts at all, he would end his political career instead of trying to take shots at whoever is the current PM.

Eddie Felson

pre 11 godina

Kostunica is right,Dacic and the other Socialist Dummies are destroying
Serbia with their Politics toward Eu.After all what happened Serbia dont need to talk with People wich have orchestrated this ethnic cleansing of every non-albanian in South Serbia.I remember the Time before all this so called "Peacekeepers" where in Kosovo,no Church or Cemetry was Destroyed and know we have radical islamic Nightmare in the South.Only Solution is to fight the Occupiers out of Serbia they have no right to be in your Land Serbs!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Rocky there is nothing extreme of fanatical about Kostunica. He generally holds a center right position and I guess supporting your country's territorial integrity is fanatical to you.

Anyway he is 100% correct that it would cost Serbia nothing to completely freeze the status of Kosovo i Metohija for a later time when conditions are in your favor to deal with it. The only thing that would be lost is EU membership and that has proven to be a waste of time and money. Don't get me wrong, if it would bring real progress and a better standard of living then the idea that we should legitimize the occupation in Kosovo i Metohija would be more enticing to many.

But it has been proven a myth. Its bloated bureaucracy and a bunch of extremists telling you what to do. Van Rompuy said it was a lie to believe the nation-state can exist in the 21st century, he my friend is the real fanatic.

They are desperately trying to build the 4th Reich into the United States of Europe and will fail miserably because if Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union have taught us anything its you cannot build artificial countries out of ideology and expect it to last for more than a couple of decades until the buzz wares off.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

To Rocky !

I Quote -

This extremist & fanatic Kostunica, may be thinking Coup

Comment -

Your analysis was superb exept for this expression in my quotation.
The Coup may come from exactly the opposite side.

Arn.Sweden.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"“It would not cost us anything to freeze the Kosovo issue” he told daily Danas. "

Of course, you are free to freeze the Kosovo issue, Zimbabwe issue, the meat in fridge, etc... Not sure where is the news here; I use my fridge every day and it's not in the news!

Rocky

pre 11 godina

This extremist & fanatic Kostunica, may be thinking Coup. I beleive Serbia is at the brink of political unrest, within its remaining territory's! Soon, we will be witnessing a sudden period of turbulent turmoil & civil unrest coming out of Serbia! Frankly, I'm surprised Serbia was able to hold out this long? The cracks within the political structure, are clearly evident!

T

pre 11 godina

Koštunica is talking about political neutrality for Serbia.Koštunica needs to take a reality check.
No country in the world is politically neutral. Not Switzerland, not the US-of-A, not N.Korea, Russia or anybody else. Everybody is somehow politically aligned, involved, connected or committed. Some countries are even politically oppressed by other countries. Russia, with whom he would love to see an alliance, is really good at oppressing others, especially during the Stalin years, and don't think Putin is much different. It is how the world works.
Kosovo is a lost case. He knows it. But then what would he and his party otherwise do. Nothing, because they have nothing else to offer. They stay in power not to serve the people or the greater good. They are in power because it is a cushy job. The power and the money, money and the power, minute after minute, hour after hour. Politics is a gangsta's paradise.

Milan Ivanonvic

pre 11 godina

IVIC DACIC WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER RESIGN, HE IS A GREAT PROME MINISTER, HE WANTS WHAT IS BEST FOR SERBIA, HE WANTS SERBIA TO MOVE ON, I STRONGLY SUPPORT HIM. LONG LIFE DACIC DONT LISTEN TO THIS IDIOT AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OPPOSITION LOSER PARTIES

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Rocky there is nothing extreme of fanatical about Kostunica. He generally holds a center right position and I guess supporting your country's territorial integrity is fanatical to you.

Anyway he is 100% correct that it would cost Serbia nothing to completely freeze the status of Kosovo i Metohija for a later time when conditions are in your favor to deal with it. The only thing that would be lost is EU membership and that has proven to be a waste of time and money. Don't get me wrong, if it would bring real progress and a better standard of living then the idea that we should legitimize the occupation in Kosovo i Metohija would be more enticing to many.

But it has been proven a myth. Its bloated bureaucracy and a bunch of extremists telling you what to do. Van Rompuy said it was a lie to believe the nation-state can exist in the 21st century, he my friend is the real fanatic.

They are desperately trying to build the 4th Reich into the United States of Europe and will fail miserably because if Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union have taught us anything its you cannot build artificial countries out of ideology and expect it to last for more than a couple of decades until the buzz wares off.

T

pre 11 godina

Koštunica is talking about political neutrality for Serbia.Koštunica needs to take a reality check.
No country in the world is politically neutral. Not Switzerland, not the US-of-A, not N.Korea, Russia or anybody else. Everybody is somehow politically aligned, involved, connected or committed. Some countries are even politically oppressed by other countries. Russia, with whom he would love to see an alliance, is really good at oppressing others, especially during the Stalin years, and don't think Putin is much different. It is how the world works.
Kosovo is a lost case. He knows it. But then what would he and his party otherwise do. Nothing, because they have nothing else to offer. They stay in power not to serve the people or the greater good. They are in power because it is a cushy job. The power and the money, money and the power, minute after minute, hour after hour. Politics is a gangsta's paradise.

Eddie Felson

pre 11 godina

Kostunica is right,Dacic and the other Socialist Dummies are destroying
Serbia with their Politics toward Eu.After all what happened Serbia dont need to talk with People wich have orchestrated this ethnic cleansing of every non-albanian in South Serbia.I remember the Time before all this so called "Peacekeepers" where in Kosovo,no Church or Cemetry was Destroyed and know we have radical islamic Nightmare in the South.Only Solution is to fight the Occupiers out of Serbia they have no right to be in your Land Serbs!

Rocky

pre 11 godina

This extremist & fanatic Kostunica, may be thinking Coup. I beleive Serbia is at the brink of political unrest, within its remaining territory's! Soon, we will be witnessing a sudden period of turbulent turmoil & civil unrest coming out of Serbia! Frankly, I'm surprised Serbia was able to hold out this long? The cracks within the political structure, are clearly evident!

Milan Ivanonvic

pre 11 godina

IVIC DACIC WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER RESIGN, HE IS A GREAT PROME MINISTER, HE WANTS WHAT IS BEST FOR SERBIA, HE WANTS SERBIA TO MOVE ON, I STRONGLY SUPPORT HIM. LONG LIFE DACIC DONT LISTEN TO THIS IDIOT AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OPPOSITION LOSER PARTIES

Marius

pre 11 godina

Geez. You don't need to like Dacic at all to see that Koštunica's term as PM was a total, utter failure for Serbia. If he had any guts at all, he would end his political career instead of trying to take shots at whoever is the current PM.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.

What kind of sense does it make to come up with stupid and unrealistic statements and demands almost every day? Dacic shall resign, Nicolic shall resign, constitutional court judges shall resign, blablabla...

Let's hope DSS will be below the threshold in the next elections, then he hopefully will a bit more quiet.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"“It would not cost us anything to freeze the Kosovo issue” he told daily Danas. "

Of course, you are free to freeze the Kosovo issue, Zimbabwe issue, the meat in fridge, etc... Not sure where is the news here; I use my fridge every day and it's not in the news!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

To Rocky !

I Quote -

This extremist & fanatic Kostunica, may be thinking Coup

Comment -

Your analysis was superb exept for this expression in my quotation.
The Coup may come from exactly the opposite side.

Arn.Sweden.

marKo

pre 11 godina

At some point the electorate has to realize that the only thing the EU is offering Serbia is future consideration. It is not offering to pay us for anything, it is not admitting that mistakes were made against the Serbian people, it is not offering a sustainable plan. All it offers us is the promise that if we do everything that they can think to tell us, they will be nicer to us in the future.

But why would they? Why should they? If Serbia is to abandon its own interests, and be willingly subservient to whatever Europe's latest fancy is, they can not treat us as a partner.

Dacic thinks that he can win Europe over by doing everything they ask. Ask yourself a scenario where that has worked in politics or business?

We should treat Europe in the manner that we would like to be treated, and our expectation should be reciprocal. If Europe does not reciprocate we should treat it as it treats us. Serbia is broken but not dead. Europe needs to grow or die. In the very long run the EU will need the Balkans more than the Balkans need the EU. In the short term, and in the last decade, Serbia has gained nothing from, and can gain nothing from its policy of appeasement towards Brussels.


Suspend appeasement, and slowly and organically expand co-operation on the basis of mutual interest.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.
=============================
Funny, you don't seem to have the same message for Cedo.
Anyway, let's wait and see how many seats Kostunica picks up in the next election.
I think people know they were tricked by Nikolic and Dacic and will reward them accordingly.

bganon

pre 11 godina

So what took Kostunica so long to see what Dacic was doing on Kosovo when it is evident for many months now?

Or is it about something else? Has Kostunica been advised to go ahead with this speech after holding back for so long because DSS efforts to make a deal with the government have been rebuffed? And / or is it because DSS have heard on the grapevine that the two headed beast of Dacic / Nikolic are going to engineer a grand coalition with Djilas in order to 'solve' the issue of Kosovo once and for all - with western backing?

Freezing the Kosovo issue as Kostunica likes to say was first the policy of the Jugoslav government until 1989. Then it was the real policy of Milosevic (despite the talk) for long periods until 1999. Then it was the policy of the post 2000 government. Where did that ever get Serbia Mr Kostunica? Whilst fools like you, who are always bereft of ideas, wanted to freeze the Kosovo issue - might it have helped in actually trying to achieve a solution while there was still time?

Doesn't matter now though, its too late for Kostunica and its too late for the average guy on the street to impact on what will happen in the future. They surrendered Kosovo with their fear and inability to compromise and signed an agreement undermining Serbian sovereignty. Now all we will get is scraps and some sovereignty in the north.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Whilst fools like you, who are always bereft of ideas, wanted to freeze the Kosovo issue - might it have helped in actually trying to achieve a solution while there was still time? "
(bganon, 27 January 2013 14:03)

Of course an agreed solution reached 20 or 10 years ago would have been a much better one for Serbia than one that can be reached today.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 January 2013 21:03)
--
Your comment represents 0% of voters so shall we discard it? It really is pointless because far more than 7% of voters would agree with his position.

Firstly support for EU membership is less than 50% and I bet the far majority would prefer the constitutional court uphold the constitution instead of the agenda of political parties.

What Kostunica is saying is spot on as always.

winston

pre 11 godina

Rocky, is your comment what you truly believe will happen, or what you would love to happen, driven by your feelings about Serbia? You, like so many anti-Serb anything, here, are not ever taken seriously in any of your comments, because you are driven by hate, not logic. HAND (have a nice day).

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Kosovo slips away, government economic policy appears non existent. The only positive is the flagship anti corruption policy, but how serious is it, or is that window dressing?
(bganon, 28 January 2013 12:35)
====================================
Yep, I think it is.
Citizens of Serbia have been lied to and betrayed by all. Nothing unique here. Same thing happens all over the world.
We all need a fresh batch of politicians or a revolution. Sounds drastic and is drastic but no matter who we vote for we are let down.

bganon

pre 11 godina

marKo can you imagine Kostunica stealing anybodies girlfriend lol? That would be too decisive for him, I think he would prefer to do nothing and to bitch about how that guy wasn't good enough for her! People would tell him how principled he was for not stealing her, when in his heart he knew really it was because he wasn't capable of doing so...

For me its not just about the politics he represents, its about that "can't do" attitude, its about the lack of solutions, its about the internal fear of failure leading one to do nothing but talk.

So for me its philosophical as well as political. And although you say I have it wrong about Kostunica, is there not truth in what I say?

And you know, life gets in the way a bit. Part of it is disillusion with the government, what is there to say really? The speeches of Dacic bring on a case of vomitus on a constant basis, lying has become an art form with him the likes of which Orwell warned about. Nikolic was propelled into power through the mythical vote fraud which was not investigated as promised, most likely due to the fact it never happened.

Djilas seizes power at DS - even after all these years I don't know what he stands for politically. Could it be because the man has no principles or political philosophy?

Kosovo slips away, government economic policy appears non existent. The only positive is the flagship anti corruption policy, but how serious is it, or is that window dressing?

marKo

pre 11 godina

part of the problem with Serbian politics is that there is no graduating class for the major parties. The same old politicians keep coming out again. I think Kostunica is wonderful, but he isn't exactly arousing passions. Dacic is a survivor, he is a great political tactition, but he is not a statesman. I don't think Nikolic can or will trust Dacic indefinitely, nor should he. The DS destroyed their own brand, and have not brought new faces or new leadership to bear. An old lieutenant in the personage of the mayor of belgrade, with a life time of political baggage is the best they could muster. Just the other day they were whining of persecution and unfreindly media (after a decade of control of that media) Yes it seems you are right. Serbian politics are old and lack vision. Even still its nice to hear from you.

marKo

pre 11 godina

bganon you only come out of retirement to slam Kostunica, did he steal your girlfriend? Just kidding of course. Where have you been as of late. I don't like your politics, but you are rational and come by most of your opinions honestly and I enjoy reading your posts even when you are wrong about Kostunica.

Skifteri

pre 11 godina

Of course an agreed solution reached 20 or 10 years ago would have been a much better one for Serbia than one that can be reached today.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 January 2013 14:56
_______________________

It is logical to say that now knowing how events have turned out.
It would have been heresy to discuss a compromise in Belgrade in the 90s especially since they were confident they would continue to rule Prishtina.

They obviousily miscalculated wether the west would intervene and underestimated Albanian resolve for independence.

icj1

pre 11 godina

What Kostunica is saying is spot on as always.
(Zoran, 27 January 2013 20:16)

Yeah... It's shame that the majority of the Serbs do not like to be on the same spot as Vojislav :)

Rocky

pre 11 godina

This extremist & fanatic Kostunica, may be thinking Coup. I beleive Serbia is at the brink of political unrest, within its remaining territory's! Soon, we will be witnessing a sudden period of turbulent turmoil & civil unrest coming out of Serbia! Frankly, I'm surprised Serbia was able to hold out this long? The cracks within the political structure, are clearly evident!

Milan Ivanonvic

pre 11 godina

IVIC DACIC WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER RESIGN, HE IS A GREAT PROME MINISTER, HE WANTS WHAT IS BEST FOR SERBIA, HE WANTS SERBIA TO MOVE ON, I STRONGLY SUPPORT HIM. LONG LIFE DACIC DONT LISTEN TO THIS IDIOT AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OPPOSITION LOSER PARTIES

Marius

pre 11 godina

Geez. You don't need to like Dacic at all to see that Koštunica's term as PM was a total, utter failure for Serbia. If he had any guts at all, he would end his political career instead of trying to take shots at whoever is the current PM.

T

pre 11 godina

Koštunica is talking about political neutrality for Serbia.Koštunica needs to take a reality check.
No country in the world is politically neutral. Not Switzerland, not the US-of-A, not N.Korea, Russia or anybody else. Everybody is somehow politically aligned, involved, connected or committed. Some countries are even politically oppressed by other countries. Russia, with whom he would love to see an alliance, is really good at oppressing others, especially during the Stalin years, and don't think Putin is much different. It is how the world works.
Kosovo is a lost case. He knows it. But then what would he and his party otherwise do. Nothing, because they have nothing else to offer. They stay in power not to serve the people or the greater good. They are in power because it is a cushy job. The power and the money, money and the power, minute after minute, hour after hour. Politics is a gangsta's paradise.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"“It would not cost us anything to freeze the Kosovo issue” he told daily Danas. "

Of course, you are free to freeze the Kosovo issue, Zimbabwe issue, the meat in fridge, etc... Not sure where is the news here; I use my fridge every day and it's not in the news!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Rocky there is nothing extreme of fanatical about Kostunica. He generally holds a center right position and I guess supporting your country's territorial integrity is fanatical to you.

Anyway he is 100% correct that it would cost Serbia nothing to completely freeze the status of Kosovo i Metohija for a later time when conditions are in your favor to deal with it. The only thing that would be lost is EU membership and that has proven to be a waste of time and money. Don't get me wrong, if it would bring real progress and a better standard of living then the idea that we should legitimize the occupation in Kosovo i Metohija would be more enticing to many.

But it has been proven a myth. Its bloated bureaucracy and a bunch of extremists telling you what to do. Van Rompuy said it was a lie to believe the nation-state can exist in the 21st century, he my friend is the real fanatic.

They are desperately trying to build the 4th Reich into the United States of Europe and will fail miserably because if Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union have taught us anything its you cannot build artificial countries out of ideology and expect it to last for more than a couple of decades until the buzz wares off.

Eddie Felson

pre 11 godina

Kostunica is right,Dacic and the other Socialist Dummies are destroying
Serbia with their Politics toward Eu.After all what happened Serbia dont need to talk with People wich have orchestrated this ethnic cleansing of every non-albanian in South Serbia.I remember the Time before all this so called "Peacekeepers" where in Kosovo,no Church or Cemetry was Destroyed and know we have radical islamic Nightmare in the South.Only Solution is to fight the Occupiers out of Serbia they have no right to be in your Land Serbs!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.

What kind of sense does it make to come up with stupid and unrealistic statements and demands almost every day? Dacic shall resign, Nicolic shall resign, constitutional court judges shall resign, blablabla...

Let's hope DSS will be below the threshold in the next elections, then he hopefully will a bit more quiet.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

To Rocky !

I Quote -

This extremist & fanatic Kostunica, may be thinking Coup

Comment -

Your analysis was superb exept for this expression in my quotation.
The Coup may come from exactly the opposite side.

Arn.Sweden.

marKo

pre 11 godina

At some point the electorate has to realize that the only thing the EU is offering Serbia is future consideration. It is not offering to pay us for anything, it is not admitting that mistakes were made against the Serbian people, it is not offering a sustainable plan. All it offers us is the promise that if we do everything that they can think to tell us, they will be nicer to us in the future.

But why would they? Why should they? If Serbia is to abandon its own interests, and be willingly subservient to whatever Europe's latest fancy is, they can not treat us as a partner.

Dacic thinks that he can win Europe over by doing everything they ask. Ask yourself a scenario where that has worked in politics or business?

We should treat Europe in the manner that we would like to be treated, and our expectation should be reciprocal. If Europe does not reciprocate we should treat it as it treats us. Serbia is broken but not dead. Europe needs to grow or die. In the very long run the EU will need the Balkans more than the Balkans need the EU. In the short term, and in the last decade, Serbia has gained nothing from, and can gain nothing from its policy of appeasement towards Brussels.


Suspend appeasement, and slowly and organically expand co-operation on the basis of mutual interest.

winston

pre 11 godina

Rocky, is your comment what you truly believe will happen, or what you would love to happen, driven by your feelings about Serbia? You, like so many anti-Serb anything, here, are not ever taken seriously in any of your comments, because you are driven by hate, not logic. HAND (have a nice day).

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Whilst fools like you, who are always bereft of ideas, wanted to freeze the Kosovo issue - might it have helped in actually trying to achieve a solution while there was still time? "
(bganon, 27 January 2013 14:03)

Of course an agreed solution reached 20 or 10 years ago would have been a much better one for Serbia than one that can be reached today.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.
=============================
Funny, you don't seem to have the same message for Cedo.
Anyway, let's wait and see how many seats Kostunica picks up in the next election.
I think people know they were tricked by Nikolic and Dacic and will reward them accordingly.

bganon

pre 11 godina

So what took Kostunica so long to see what Dacic was doing on Kosovo when it is evident for many months now?

Or is it about something else? Has Kostunica been advised to go ahead with this speech after holding back for so long because DSS efforts to make a deal with the government have been rebuffed? And / or is it because DSS have heard on the grapevine that the two headed beast of Dacic / Nikolic are going to engineer a grand coalition with Djilas in order to 'solve' the issue of Kosovo once and for all - with western backing?

Freezing the Kosovo issue as Kostunica likes to say was first the policy of the Jugoslav government until 1989. Then it was the real policy of Milosevic (despite the talk) for long periods until 1999. Then it was the policy of the post 2000 government. Where did that ever get Serbia Mr Kostunica? Whilst fools like you, who are always bereft of ideas, wanted to freeze the Kosovo issue - might it have helped in actually trying to achieve a solution while there was still time?

Doesn't matter now though, its too late for Kostunica and its too late for the average guy on the street to impact on what will happen in the future. They surrendered Kosovo with their fear and inability to compromise and signed an agreement undermining Serbian sovereignty. Now all we will get is scraps and some sovereignty in the north.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Mr. Kostunica should keep in mind that he only represents 7% of the voters.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 January 2013 21:03)
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Your comment represents 0% of voters so shall we discard it? It really is pointless because far more than 7% of voters would agree with his position.

Firstly support for EU membership is less than 50% and I bet the far majority would prefer the constitutional court uphold the constitution instead of the agenda of political parties.

What Kostunica is saying is spot on as always.

bganon

pre 11 godina

marKo can you imagine Kostunica stealing anybodies girlfriend lol? That would be too decisive for him, I think he would prefer to do nothing and to bitch about how that guy wasn't good enough for her! People would tell him how principled he was for not stealing her, when in his heart he knew really it was because he wasn't capable of doing so...

For me its not just about the politics he represents, its about that "can't do" attitude, its about the lack of solutions, its about the internal fear of failure leading one to do nothing but talk.

So for me its philosophical as well as political. And although you say I have it wrong about Kostunica, is there not truth in what I say?

And you know, life gets in the way a bit. Part of it is disillusion with the government, what is there to say really? The speeches of Dacic bring on a case of vomitus on a constant basis, lying has become an art form with him the likes of which Orwell warned about. Nikolic was propelled into power through the mythical vote fraud which was not investigated as promised, most likely due to the fact it never happened.

Djilas seizes power at DS - even after all these years I don't know what he stands for politically. Could it be because the man has no principles or political philosophy?

Kosovo slips away, government economic policy appears non existent. The only positive is the flagship anti corruption policy, but how serious is it, or is that window dressing?

icj1

pre 11 godina

What Kostunica is saying is spot on as always.
(Zoran, 27 January 2013 20:16)

Yeah... It's shame that the majority of the Serbs do not like to be on the same spot as Vojislav :)

marKo

pre 11 godina

bganon you only come out of retirement to slam Kostunica, did he steal your girlfriend? Just kidding of course. Where have you been as of late. I don't like your politics, but you are rational and come by most of your opinions honestly and I enjoy reading your posts even when you are wrong about Kostunica.

marKo

pre 11 godina

part of the problem with Serbian politics is that there is no graduating class for the major parties. The same old politicians keep coming out again. I think Kostunica is wonderful, but he isn't exactly arousing passions. Dacic is a survivor, he is a great political tactition, but he is not a statesman. I don't think Nikolic can or will trust Dacic indefinitely, nor should he. The DS destroyed their own brand, and have not brought new faces or new leadership to bear. An old lieutenant in the personage of the mayor of belgrade, with a life time of political baggage is the best they could muster. Just the other day they were whining of persecution and unfreindly media (after a decade of control of that media) Yes it seems you are right. Serbian politics are old and lack vision. Even still its nice to hear from you.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Kosovo slips away, government economic policy appears non existent. The only positive is the flagship anti corruption policy, but how serious is it, or is that window dressing?
(bganon, 28 January 2013 12:35)
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Yep, I think it is.
Citizens of Serbia have been lied to and betrayed by all. Nothing unique here. Same thing happens all over the world.
We all need a fresh batch of politicians or a revolution. Sounds drastic and is drastic but no matter who we vote for we are let down.

Skifteri

pre 11 godina

Of course an agreed solution reached 20 or 10 years ago would have been a much better one for Serbia than one that can be reached today.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 January 2013 14:56
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It is logical to say that now knowing how events have turned out.
It would have been heresy to discuss a compromise in Belgrade in the 90s especially since they were confident they would continue to rule Prishtina.

They obviousily miscalculated wether the west would intervene and underestimated Albanian resolve for independence.