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Saturday, 26.01.2013.

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“It will take Serbia decade to join EU”

U.S. expert for the Balkans Daniel Serwer told daily Večernje novosti that Serbia would not join the EU in the next decade.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

Before they used the term "international community" to describe U.S and its satellites, now its "the world" he's getting a bit excited isn't he? When did Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc; cease to be part of the world?
(Asteri, 27 January 2013 16:48)

You have to ask the patriotic Serb diaspora which has generally only noticed the US and its satellites to exist and has emigrated there and not Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc. I'm sure that if the patriotic Serb diaspora had noticed the existence of the latter would choose to emigrate there.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

It's those western think tanks and their "expert" analysts that have created this mess in former Yugoslavia by imposing the internal titoist borders between democraties as international borders between states ignoring the multiethnic reality of Jugoslavia. He is right though about one thing: That Serbia and its romantic nationalism is not welcome in the EU. Actually EU and the rest of the western world wants to see Serbia on its knees. So why does Serbia even bother and wastes time and effort? In a decade's time, assuming that the EU still exists in its current form, there will be more countries begging to leave it than those asking to join it. Serbia should seek other alliances away from the EU one way street to failure.

Ned Taylor

pre 11 godina

Mike: You are right to say that the RS could get along well without following Belgrade's lead. I have always argued that BiH can continue perfectly well with the two entity system with the RS accorded semi autonomous status and that this is no bar to its possible inclusion in NATO and the EU, if it so wishes to join. What is not going to happen in a hurry is a)an independent RS, b)a third entity or c)a united BiH.

Asteri

pre 11 godina

Before they used the term "international community" to describe U.S and its satellites, now its "the world" he's getting a bit excited isn't he? When did Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc; cease to be part of the world?

icj1

pre 11 godina

The important thing is that serbs living in Bosnia and Kosovo look to Belgrade and not to Sarajevo or Pristina.
(MikeC, 27 January 2013 08:53)

Not sure about the Serbs in Bosnia and couldn't care less, but as far as the Serbs in Kosovo are concerned, they certainly are not looking to Belgrade if you've had a chance to follow the news...

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"... but full of hate against all ethnic minorities,..."

i challenge you to come to Koso0va yourself and see what sort of pressure Turks, Croats and the Ashkali have to suffer. seriously, you outdo yourself every time you comment

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Serbia has no other option but to follow his recommendations, however, being Serbs, you can't stomach hearing the truth. Where else can Serbia find such an honest opinion."

The Count of Kosova

If Serbia should follow his opinion then why doesn't Serbia recognize Kosovo? And of course its an "honest" opinion because its favorable to albanians. Let me tell you something. Americans don't care for anyone but themselves and their interests. You are shoving your head up your own a.s which is why you fail to see the obvious.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Ned Taylor

Serbia is not in possesion of RS but it gives support to RS. Same thing with Kosovo where Serbia lost control after the war ended. However, it still has control over its people an politics. The west is constantly asking Serbia to give up its support to Serbian institutions in Kosovo and they will do the same with RS. In RS however there are over one million serbs so they could manage well without Belgrade after all. The important thing is that serbs living in Bosnia and Kosovo look to Belgrade and not to Sarajevo or Pristina.

Была ибарская граница - а теперь наша стран&#

pre 11 godina

For me, the best solution would be drawing new borders along the Ibar river.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 January 2013 21:10)

For me the simplest solution would be to send the Russian Army with full VVS support there and make the damn KosovA look like a smoking crater, no mercy. But I am aware, that is risky, dumb and old-style. And too much casualties. And many dead Albanians could be potentially good customers of us. Not a good idea to kill your customer. So maybe not. Newer style is slower but maybe more efficient - like owning all the energy suplies, all logistics and all making sure, all American military runs software made by us. Things going that way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7JVvJk6R0

I know, this will generate a lot of lovely "-" votes from Albanians but as million times being said: the only thing better than Great and Big Russia is the Even Greater and Bigger Russia™.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.
(A.Lamovic, 26 January 2013 14:18)
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A lamo you certainly are if you think anyone is buying that you are a Serb and enjoying life in "Kosova".

John

pre 11 godina

Not even 2 decades will be enough. Serbia will continue to extend the 1990s, with 300 Euro per month, highest debts, highest unemployment and highest inflation and plenty of mess, from Vojvodina to Presovo. The whole Serbia is the biggest frozen conflict of Europe.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold and MikeC,

When reality stares you in the face, your response is to bury your heads in the sand. This expert is giving Serbia valuable advice, but you guys think you know better than he does. Serbia has no other option but to follow his recommendations, however, being Serbs, you can't stomach hearing the truth. Where else can Serbia find such an honest opinion.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

Mike C: You mention in jest that Serbia wouldn't be able to join the EU even if it gives up the RS..........I wasn't aware that it was in posession of this territory. Yes, many Serbs live there and it was until 1992 a part of Jugoslavia but as far as I know, and I am happy to be put right, the RS was never a part of Serbia. The original goal was to 'merge' with Serbia, not to re-unite. As to the article itself, although Serwer is an American I get the impression that the views expressed are his own. I don't necessarily agree with him, but I think he is probably right about the overall attitudes of the USA administration and the majority of EU member governments.

JohnBoy

pre 11 godina

If serwer says that it will take Serbia 10 years to join the eu, then why bother with it? Serbia could make more money making separate trade agreements with each eu nation then be restricted by stupid eu regulations. If Serbia abandons the eu integration, the us state department will pay this guy a nasty visit.

Calling himself an expert on the Balkans is how this clown makes his living - how much did he charge the newspaper for this interview?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"I do not believe that the platform is a step forward. It reiterates Serbia’s request for sovereignty over whole of Kosovo, suggesting a special self-government for Albanians that would become second-class citizens in Serbia.
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He added that he still believed that the Ahtisaari plan was the best solution and that he did not see why Serbia would not accept it."

And Serbs in Kosovo with a self-government in the North would become second class citizens in Kosovo.

After ten years, even a blind man should see that the 'multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo' is an illusion, it's neither democratic but in the hand of a bunch of rivaling, election faking mafia clans who call themselves 'politicians', nor is it 'multiethnic' in any way, but full of hate against all ethnic minorities, especially Serbs.

For me, the best solution would be drawing new borders along the Ibar river.

MikeS

pre 11 godina

It would seem that Serwer is merely voicing what he and his government want rather what he believes is 'realistic'.... as usual.

Dohány utcai fiúk

pre 11 godina

Serws should listen to him and install some of the most popular Google Chrome themes, there are few good ones to chose from. Than they will join the EU sooner and get more investment from Soros Gyuri bácsi.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-themes/flag?hl=en

Serwer is our boy, what a joy - to bad, Dell corporation is in trouble and this Serwer is just a defective Dell server. If we decide to upgrade our servers, no money will be spent on old hardware and without our money no more Kosova project.

ZZ

pre 11 godina

Serwer said that a problem for Serbia was a fact that it was still open to “romantic ideas”.

Mr Serwer holds a few romantic ideas of his own. First, that the misguided nature of his lifes work will endure. That empires are permanent and can dictate the long term course of history. That he understands the nature of "ancestral home". That his "academics" weren't the result of being on the right side of military power. That the beneficiaries of his ideas don't enrich themselves and their friends in illegal and immoral ways.

His most romantic notion is that he will live forever and that God is not watching.

T

pre 11 godina

Winston, I never put down Serbia. I love Serbia! I also love the idea of a united Europe. You take one article as an example of why Serbia should not be part of the EU but I give you one reason why Serbia should be part. Peace!
Since the formation of the EU this continent has had the single longest lasting period of peace then in any other time in history.
Europe works very well for me and for millions who work, live and travel there freely. If you gave it a chance you might actually like it too.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"After all, Nikolic is the name, digging graves is his game."

T

At least Nikolic had a job before he became a politican. What did Thaci and Haradinaj do before they became politicians? Don't even answere! We already know the answer to that.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

I believe we will see a more stern US & European policy directed at Serbia! The messages, if people have noticed, are more blunt and clearer! Serbia, is being tested now, the west would like to see if Serbia has really changed, into a more democratic entity? If not, in the very near future we will witness the final phases of the disentegration, of what remains of Serbia! Serbia's policy's, are leading her to the direct implosion of her artificial country. As for the Russians? Last weak Serbia also received a clear and blunt message from them as we'll, in the form of a future map of the Balkans, that is inevitable, and will happen! The Russians have on many occasions "stated" we cannot be more Serbian then the Serbs themselves! Serbia has been shown physically & told verbally, of what the Balkans will look like! I believe, if she continues "serbia" on her defiant path, she ultimately loses a lot more, both economically. & physically! It is up to her to heed the signs? The free world has sent the messages, that needed to be sent to Serbia!!!

T

pre 11 godina

I see a lot of nationalistic and anti EU/American rhetoric in response to Daniel Serwer's views. what you nationalists fail to understand is that Kosovo is not salvageable. Whether recognized by some and not by others is not the point. The point is what is best for Serbia.

really

pre 11 godina

somehow this troll lover believes the "world" rotates around US policies. wrong. and hopefully one day this "expert" gets some albo reciprocity.

what a joke

pre 11 godina

US expert for the Balkans? Isn't that an oxymoron? Since when have the US been experts at any international region? They are a nation of overweight, uneducated fools with no history or culture and most cannot even find their own country on a map of the world!!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"“It will take Serbia decade to join EU”"

From Kosovo's perspective (which aligns with that of the likes of Serb true patriots like Peggy, Ari Gold, etc. etc.) Serbia should not (ask and/or be allowed) to become an EU member ever.

George Moyich

pre 11 godina

It is time for USA to stay out of the European business. It is unfortunate that some of the European countries have made Kosovo issue an EU entry issue. Of all of the Balkan countries Serbia has been segregate for political reasons. Serbia, centrally located, is a critical part in the Balkans to solidify Balkans in EU. It is time to treat Serbia fairly and on equal basis with rest of the Balkan countries.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Normally I'd dismiss Serwer as last week's news. Considering he's not in any position of power in the US Government anymore, and is in even less of any position of authority when it comes to the EU, this is hardly anything to take seriously. But considering also these ultimatums he appears to be pulling out of thin air as he's giving the interview concern joining an organization no one wants to join and current members want to leave, I think conditioning membership to such an unpopular organization with requirements everyone knows Serbia won't do makes this entire article's focus irrelevant. And at the very least, if it will take Serbia a decade to join, I'd hate to see how long the most multiethnic, tolerant, and youngest democratic society has :)

Vuk

pre 11 godina

Who cares about what this bad apple has to say.
Why is his name even being published?

No one knows Serbia better then Serbs. We don't need some hand out politically spoiled US clown sharing ideas.
The US Serb lobby needs to go after this guy. Lets start with his tax returns....
This guy is a bad apple, period.

winston

pre 11 godina

T, read the link, and get real. People like you only sing the praises of the EU, yet never miss an opportunity to put down Serbia.
http://www.euractiv.com/pa/eu-struggles-open-transparency-news-503484
The is no Shangri-La, for sure.

dr

pre 11 godina

"He added that the documents on Kosovo, adopted by the Serbian government and parliament, were not acceptable for the world. "
Mr. Server, most of the american foreign policy is quite not acceptable for the rest of the world, and so what?

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"The man is absolutely right"

Kosovo-USA

Well of course he must be right if he is pro alb. If it was an american or european saying something negative about albanians then he is " a nobody paid by Belgrade" . You albs have no grasp of reality what so ever.

T

pre 11 godina

Daniel Serwer is an observer. He has nothing to gain or to loose by stating his view. He doesn't live here. Serbia on the other hand has everything to loose or to gain. Serbia has already lost Kosovo. This is made plain and simple by Daniel Serwer. Serbia could gain access to the EU, a path to possible progress and prosperity, if simply accepting the inevitable. However under leadership of Nikolic Serbia has chosen to travel a path that leads to nowhere, not to Kosovo, not to the EU, not even to Russia.
Russia, lets not forget, lends Serbia money (against interest) and with this money Serbia invests in Russian LOW-tech railway equipment. Russia also buys Serbian state run companies, such as NIS petrol, sacks its workers and milks the company for profits.
The EU, on the other hand, has already DONATED Serbia over a BILLION in hard cash to invest in projects the government of Serbia sees fit. The EU, although not perfect is a transparent & just society where people are free to travel and work and live and do business. Russia is run by a megalomaniac, where people can not even freely express their opinions without fear of ending in the Gulags. Russia is extremely corrupt and serves only the well connected. Russia is an oppressed society.
So where would Serbians rather be. Nikolic seems to think he knows.
After all, Nikolic is the name, digging graves is his game.

george

pre 11 godina

Everyone is saying Mr Serwer should shut up. Well he's right the EU will make you recognize Kosovo independence if you wish to join the EU. Any Serb who thinks different should have their heads examined.You are the ones who will be guilty and you alone of losing Kosovo and selling out your brothers/sisters. DON'T BLAME ANYONE ELSE!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.
(A.Lamovic, 26 January 2013 14:18)

These Albanians are very relentless these days.

Dragan

pre 11 godina

This guy is one of most vehement anti-Serb liars and propagandists, right up there with his fellow war criminals Albright and Holbrooke. Whatever he says, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
It sounds like a bit of sour grapes to me, he is feeling the frustration that his plan to steal 15% of sovereign Serbian territory and hand it to terrorists and organ snatchers has gone off the rails. Russia will permanently block this, and that is a fact that Serwer and his ilk just can't live with. The rescinding of recognitions has already begun with Sao Tome and Principe. I expect many others to follow, such as the Czech Republic and Montenegro once they get rid of their treasonous stooge Djukanovic out and in jail where he belongs.
Serwer, who is a completely failed analyst, who is one of the main reasons for the absolute disaster in the Balkans, actually think the EU will survive another 10 years! That's how clueless he is.
Let me tell you this Serwer, in case you are reading, Kosovo will never, ever, be independent. We Serbs will make sure of it. We will also make sure that Republika Srpska joins Serbia, that is the only way our people will be safe from the fascists you vehemently support. Got it?
Cheers!!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

LOL, ah Serwer the Western "expert" who wakes up bright and early foaming at the mouth and walks around with a ton of Serbo-phobia on its shoulders has came back to tell us again what Serbia should or shouldn't be doing.

He says its Romanticism for Serbia to rather have close relations with Russia than to join the EU, but it seems more than anything he's scared of such a policy change because it does not fit his twisted discourse how he thinks the Balkans should look like. Maybe hes coming in to some fresh organ extracted money so has to keep spewing because John Hopkins might not be paying the big bucks he'd like.

Anyway there is no reason why Serbia should join the EU anymore. The idea that it will bring a better living standard has proven to be a myth. Joining the same political union as Germany will not bring Serbs a German standard of living. The EU has been exposed as a giant waste of money and a bigger waste of time.

This very idea came from the Serbian leftists post 2000, you know the commies and otporista's who said Serbian national interests are a thing of the past and now foreigners will show us the right wake and will hold our hand into prosperity. This has so far proven no results because although Serbia is not a member of the EU it has followed whatever the EU has asked of it and for 13 years it has not shown any progress.

Time for a change, your type have failed.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

It pretty obvious that the EU suffers from expansion fatigue. Making promises to Serbia to one day join is only so the EU can get their will when it comes to Kosovo. Even if Serbia this minute recognized the independence of Kosovo new conditions would emerge soon after. Serbia is so desperat to join and the EU sees this and is taking advantage of the oportunity. I hear that other demads after recognizing Kosovo will be for Serbia to minimize the ozon layer, to pay of americas gigantic foreign debt and to send its soilders to die in all the wars created by America around the world. After that Serbia will be asked to find if there is life on Mars and if the planet Venus is really as cold as theys say. Then, and only then, Serbia might join, if it gives up Vojvodina, Presevo, RS, Sanzak, Sumadija and Belgrade and if the entire population converts to americanizm and becomes fat and lazy.

Serbia! Why bother?

Kosova-USA

pre 11 godina

He added that the documents on Kosovo, adopted by the Serbian government and parliament, were not acceptable for the world.

The man is absolutely right, but some Serb politicians + pro Serb camp on this forum were saying the opposite. Serbia will go backward unless it establishes diplomatic relations with Kosova.

A.Lamovic

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

U.S. expert for the Balkans Daniel Serwer told daily Večernje novosti that Serbia would not join the EU in the next decade.

Comment.

Swedish expert for the Balkans Arn says to Srbia that Serbia would not join the EU ever.

Arn.Sweden.

winston

pre 11 godina

He (Serwer) added that he still believed that the Ahtisaari plan was the best solution and that he did not see why Serbia would not accept it. Because, Daniel, the Ahtisaari plan gives Kosovo away to the Albanians, by what right? There are many places in the world, both historically and currently, that have ethnic conflicts, but did not or will not result in giving away of territory. As for the rest of Serwer's comments, I find him to be a direct spokesperson for Pristina, he always has been. How one supposed expert can be so biased is ridiculous, unless he has a personal agenda. Why do you never mention, Daniel, that Pristina is run by narco-terrorists? That the country is a drug hub for the Afghanistan-EU route? It's easy to gang up on Serbia, but please take a long look at who you are advocating for. Serbia will take more than a decade to join the EU, it has many things to change, Daniel, so do the Albanians.

Robert1899

pre 11 godina

Hvala bogu, the E.U. will be a very different organization in less than a decade. There will be countries begging to get out once Germany enforces austerity measures to rein in the sovereign debt crisis.

Joachim

pre 11 godina

“If you are under the impression that the process is only causing you pain, then maybe you are in the wrong process,” he was quoted as saying.

Sounds like a good conclusion.
Call a referendum on EU integration, NOW !!!

lowe

pre 11 godina

“It will take Serbia decade to join EU”

Provided the EU is still around then. And even if it is, Serbia may well end up giving up an arm and a leg to join a dysfunctional nightmare ...... too late for regrets then. Doesn't this possibility ever occur to Belgrade?

Dragan

pre 11 godina

This guy is one of most vehement anti-Serb liars and propagandists, right up there with his fellow war criminals Albright and Holbrooke. Whatever he says, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
It sounds like a bit of sour grapes to me, he is feeling the frustration that his plan to steal 15% of sovereign Serbian territory and hand it to terrorists and organ snatchers has gone off the rails. Russia will permanently block this, and that is a fact that Serwer and his ilk just can't live with. The rescinding of recognitions has already begun with Sao Tome and Principe. I expect many others to follow, such as the Czech Republic and Montenegro once they get rid of their treasonous stooge Djukanovic out and in jail where he belongs.
Serwer, who is a completely failed analyst, who is one of the main reasons for the absolute disaster in the Balkans, actually think the EU will survive another 10 years! That's how clueless he is.
Let me tell you this Serwer, in case you are reading, Kosovo will never, ever, be independent. We Serbs will make sure of it. We will also make sure that Republika Srpska joins Serbia, that is the only way our people will be safe from the fascists you vehemently support. Got it?
Cheers!!

lowe

pre 11 godina

“It will take Serbia decade to join EU”

Provided the EU is still around then. And even if it is, Serbia may well end up giving up an arm and a leg to join a dysfunctional nightmare ...... too late for regrets then. Doesn't this possibility ever occur to Belgrade?

Joachim

pre 11 godina

“If you are under the impression that the process is only causing you pain, then maybe you are in the wrong process,” he was quoted as saying.

Sounds like a good conclusion.
Call a referendum on EU integration, NOW !!!

Kosova-USA

pre 11 godina

He added that the documents on Kosovo, adopted by the Serbian government and parliament, were not acceptable for the world.

The man is absolutely right, but some Serb politicians + pro Serb camp on this forum were saying the opposite. Serbia will go backward unless it establishes diplomatic relations with Kosova.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

U.S. expert for the Balkans Daniel Serwer told daily Večernje novosti that Serbia would not join the EU in the next decade.

Comment.

Swedish expert for the Balkans Arn says to Srbia that Serbia would not join the EU ever.

Arn.Sweden.

Robert1899

pre 11 godina

Hvala bogu, the E.U. will be a very different organization in less than a decade. There will be countries begging to get out once Germany enforces austerity measures to rein in the sovereign debt crisis.

A.Lamovic

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

LOL, ah Serwer the Western "expert" who wakes up bright and early foaming at the mouth and walks around with a ton of Serbo-phobia on its shoulders has came back to tell us again what Serbia should or shouldn't be doing.

He says its Romanticism for Serbia to rather have close relations with Russia than to join the EU, but it seems more than anything he's scared of such a policy change because it does not fit his twisted discourse how he thinks the Balkans should look like. Maybe hes coming in to some fresh organ extracted money so has to keep spewing because John Hopkins might not be paying the big bucks he'd like.

Anyway there is no reason why Serbia should join the EU anymore. The idea that it will bring a better living standard has proven to be a myth. Joining the same political union as Germany will not bring Serbs a German standard of living. The EU has been exposed as a giant waste of money and a bigger waste of time.

This very idea came from the Serbian leftists post 2000, you know the commies and otporista's who said Serbian national interests are a thing of the past and now foreigners will show us the right wake and will hold our hand into prosperity. This has so far proven no results because although Serbia is not a member of the EU it has followed whatever the EU has asked of it and for 13 years it has not shown any progress.

Time for a change, your type have failed.

winston

pre 11 godina

He (Serwer) added that he still believed that the Ahtisaari plan was the best solution and that he did not see why Serbia would not accept it. Because, Daniel, the Ahtisaari plan gives Kosovo away to the Albanians, by what right? There are many places in the world, both historically and currently, that have ethnic conflicts, but did not or will not result in giving away of territory. As for the rest of Serwer's comments, I find him to be a direct spokesperson for Pristina, he always has been. How one supposed expert can be so biased is ridiculous, unless he has a personal agenda. Why do you never mention, Daniel, that Pristina is run by narco-terrorists? That the country is a drug hub for the Afghanistan-EU route? It's easy to gang up on Serbia, but please take a long look at who you are advocating for. Serbia will take more than a decade to join the EU, it has many things to change, Daniel, so do the Albanians.

george

pre 11 godina

Everyone is saying Mr Serwer should shut up. Well he's right the EU will make you recognize Kosovo independence if you wish to join the EU. Any Serb who thinks different should have their heads examined.You are the ones who will be guilty and you alone of losing Kosovo and selling out your brothers/sisters. DON'T BLAME ANYONE ELSE!

George Moyich

pre 11 godina

It is time for USA to stay out of the European business. It is unfortunate that some of the European countries have made Kosovo issue an EU entry issue. Of all of the Balkan countries Serbia has been segregate for political reasons. Serbia, centrally located, is a critical part in the Balkans to solidify Balkans in EU. It is time to treat Serbia fairly and on equal basis with rest of the Balkan countries.

what a joke

pre 11 godina

US expert for the Balkans? Isn't that an oxymoron? Since when have the US been experts at any international region? They are a nation of overweight, uneducated fools with no history or culture and most cannot even find their own country on a map of the world!!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.
(A.Lamovic, 26 January 2013 14:18)

These Albanians are very relentless these days.

T

pre 11 godina

Daniel Serwer is an observer. He has nothing to gain or to loose by stating his view. He doesn't live here. Serbia on the other hand has everything to loose or to gain. Serbia has already lost Kosovo. This is made plain and simple by Daniel Serwer. Serbia could gain access to the EU, a path to possible progress and prosperity, if simply accepting the inevitable. However under leadership of Nikolic Serbia has chosen to travel a path that leads to nowhere, not to Kosovo, not to the EU, not even to Russia.
Russia, lets not forget, lends Serbia money (against interest) and with this money Serbia invests in Russian LOW-tech railway equipment. Russia also buys Serbian state run companies, such as NIS petrol, sacks its workers and milks the company for profits.
The EU, on the other hand, has already DONATED Serbia over a BILLION in hard cash to invest in projects the government of Serbia sees fit. The EU, although not perfect is a transparent & just society where people are free to travel and work and live and do business. Russia is run by a megalomaniac, where people can not even freely express their opinions without fear of ending in the Gulags. Russia is extremely corrupt and serves only the well connected. Russia is an oppressed society.
So where would Serbians rather be. Nikolic seems to think he knows.
After all, Nikolic is the name, digging graves is his game.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

It pretty obvious that the EU suffers from expansion fatigue. Making promises to Serbia to one day join is only so the EU can get their will when it comes to Kosovo. Even if Serbia this minute recognized the independence of Kosovo new conditions would emerge soon after. Serbia is so desperat to join and the EU sees this and is taking advantage of the oportunity. I hear that other demads after recognizing Kosovo will be for Serbia to minimize the ozon layer, to pay of americas gigantic foreign debt and to send its soilders to die in all the wars created by America around the world. After that Serbia will be asked to find if there is life on Mars and if the planet Venus is really as cold as theys say. Then, and only then, Serbia might join, if it gives up Vojvodina, Presevo, RS, Sanzak, Sumadija and Belgrade and if the entire population converts to americanizm and becomes fat and lazy.

Serbia! Why bother?

Rocky

pre 11 godina

I believe we will see a more stern US & European policy directed at Serbia! The messages, if people have noticed, are more blunt and clearer! Serbia, is being tested now, the west would like to see if Serbia has really changed, into a more democratic entity? If not, in the very near future we will witness the final phases of the disentegration, of what remains of Serbia! Serbia's policy's, are leading her to the direct implosion of her artificial country. As for the Russians? Last weak Serbia also received a clear and blunt message from them as we'll, in the form of a future map of the Balkans, that is inevitable, and will happen! The Russians have on many occasions "stated" we cannot be more Serbian then the Serbs themselves! Serbia has been shown physically & told verbally, of what the Balkans will look like! I believe, if she continues "serbia" on her defiant path, she ultimately loses a lot more, both economically. & physically! It is up to her to heed the signs? The free world has sent the messages, that needed to be sent to Serbia!!!

really

pre 11 godina

somehow this troll lover believes the "world" rotates around US policies. wrong. and hopefully one day this "expert" gets some albo reciprocity.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"After all, Nikolic is the name, digging graves is his game."

T

At least Nikolic had a job before he became a politican. What did Thaci and Haradinaj do before they became politicians? Don't even answere! We already know the answer to that.

Vuk

pre 11 godina

Who cares about what this bad apple has to say.
Why is his name even being published?

No one knows Serbia better then Serbs. We don't need some hand out politically spoiled US clown sharing ideas.
The US Serb lobby needs to go after this guy. Lets start with his tax returns....
This guy is a bad apple, period.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"The man is absolutely right"

Kosovo-USA

Well of course he must be right if he is pro alb. If it was an american or european saying something negative about albanians then he is " a nobody paid by Belgrade" . You albs have no grasp of reality what so ever.

dr

pre 11 godina

"He added that the documents on Kosovo, adopted by the Serbian government and parliament, were not acceptable for the world. "
Mr. Server, most of the american foreign policy is quite not acceptable for the rest of the world, and so what?

T

pre 11 godina

I see a lot of nationalistic and anti EU/American rhetoric in response to Daniel Serwer's views. what you nationalists fail to understand is that Kosovo is not salvageable. Whether recognized by some and not by others is not the point. The point is what is best for Serbia.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

Mike C: You mention in jest that Serbia wouldn't be able to join the EU even if it gives up the RS..........I wasn't aware that it was in posession of this territory. Yes, many Serbs live there and it was until 1992 a part of Jugoslavia but as far as I know, and I am happy to be put right, the RS was never a part of Serbia. The original goal was to 'merge' with Serbia, not to re-unite. As to the article itself, although Serwer is an American I get the impression that the views expressed are his own. I don't necessarily agree with him, but I think he is probably right about the overall attitudes of the USA administration and the majority of EU member governments.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"“It will take Serbia decade to join EU”"

From Kosovo's perspective (which aligns with that of the likes of Serb true patriots like Peggy, Ari Gold, etc. etc.) Serbia should not (ask and/or be allowed) to become an EU member ever.

JohnBoy

pre 11 godina

If serwer says that it will take Serbia 10 years to join the eu, then why bother with it? Serbia could make more money making separate trade agreements with each eu nation then be restricted by stupid eu regulations. If Serbia abandons the eu integration, the us state department will pay this guy a nasty visit.

Calling himself an expert on the Balkans is how this clown makes his living - how much did he charge the newspaper for this interview?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Normally I'd dismiss Serwer as last week's news. Considering he's not in any position of power in the US Government anymore, and is in even less of any position of authority when it comes to the EU, this is hardly anything to take seriously. But considering also these ultimatums he appears to be pulling out of thin air as he's giving the interview concern joining an organization no one wants to join and current members want to leave, I think conditioning membership to such an unpopular organization with requirements everyone knows Serbia won't do makes this entire article's focus irrelevant. And at the very least, if it will take Serbia a decade to join, I'd hate to see how long the most multiethnic, tolerant, and youngest democratic society has :)

winston

pre 11 godina

T, read the link, and get real. People like you only sing the praises of the EU, yet never miss an opportunity to put down Serbia.
http://www.euractiv.com/pa/eu-struggles-open-transparency-news-503484
The is no Shangri-La, for sure.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"I do not believe that the platform is a step forward. It reiterates Serbia’s request for sovereignty over whole of Kosovo, suggesting a special self-government for Albanians that would become second-class citizens in Serbia.
....
He added that he still believed that the Ahtisaari plan was the best solution and that he did not see why Serbia would not accept it."

And Serbs in Kosovo with a self-government in the North would become second class citizens in Kosovo.

After ten years, even a blind man should see that the 'multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo' is an illusion, it's neither democratic but in the hand of a bunch of rivaling, election faking mafia clans who call themselves 'politicians', nor is it 'multiethnic' in any way, but full of hate against all ethnic minorities, especially Serbs.

For me, the best solution would be drawing new borders along the Ibar river.

MikeS

pre 11 godina

It would seem that Serwer is merely voicing what he and his government want rather what he believes is 'realistic'.... as usual.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Ned Taylor

Serbia is not in possesion of RS but it gives support to RS. Same thing with Kosovo where Serbia lost control after the war ended. However, it still has control over its people an politics. The west is constantly asking Serbia to give up its support to Serbian institutions in Kosovo and they will do the same with RS. In RS however there are over one million serbs so they could manage well without Belgrade after all. The important thing is that serbs living in Bosnia and Kosovo look to Belgrade and not to Sarajevo or Pristina.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

It's those western think tanks and their "expert" analysts that have created this mess in former Yugoslavia by imposing the internal titoist borders between democraties as international borders between states ignoring the multiethnic reality of Jugoslavia. He is right though about one thing: That Serbia and its romantic nationalism is not welcome in the EU. Actually EU and the rest of the western world wants to see Serbia on its knees. So why does Serbia even bother and wastes time and effort? In a decade's time, assuming that the EU still exists in its current form, there will be more countries begging to leave it than those asking to join it. Serbia should seek other alliances away from the EU one way street to failure.

T

pre 11 godina

Winston, I never put down Serbia. I love Serbia! I also love the idea of a united Europe. You take one article as an example of why Serbia should not be part of the EU but I give you one reason why Serbia should be part. Peace!
Since the formation of the EU this continent has had the single longest lasting period of peace then in any other time in history.
Europe works very well for me and for millions who work, live and travel there freely. If you gave it a chance you might actually like it too.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.
(A.Lamovic, 26 January 2013 14:18)
=======================
A lamo you certainly are if you think anyone is buying that you are a Serb and enjoying life in "Kosova".

Была ибарская граница - а теперь наша стран&#

pre 11 godina

For me, the best solution would be drawing new borders along the Ibar river.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 January 2013 21:10)

For me the simplest solution would be to send the Russian Army with full VVS support there and make the damn KosovA look like a smoking crater, no mercy. But I am aware, that is risky, dumb and old-style. And too much casualties. And many dead Albanians could be potentially good customers of us. Not a good idea to kill your customer. So maybe not. Newer style is slower but maybe more efficient - like owning all the energy suplies, all logistics and all making sure, all American military runs software made by us. Things going that way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7JVvJk6R0

I know, this will generate a lot of lovely "-" votes from Albanians but as million times being said: the only thing better than Great and Big Russia is the Even Greater and Bigger Russia™.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Serbia has no other option but to follow his recommendations, however, being Serbs, you can't stomach hearing the truth. Where else can Serbia find such an honest opinion."

The Count of Kosova

If Serbia should follow his opinion then why doesn't Serbia recognize Kosovo? And of course its an "honest" opinion because its favorable to albanians. Let me tell you something. Americans don't care for anyone but themselves and their interests. You are shoving your head up your own a.s which is why you fail to see the obvious.

ZZ

pre 11 godina

Serwer said that a problem for Serbia was a fact that it was still open to “romantic ideas”.

Mr Serwer holds a few romantic ideas of his own. First, that the misguided nature of his lifes work will endure. That empires are permanent and can dictate the long term course of history. That he understands the nature of "ancestral home". That his "academics" weren't the result of being on the right side of military power. That the beneficiaries of his ideas don't enrich themselves and their friends in illegal and immoral ways.

His most romantic notion is that he will live forever and that God is not watching.

Dohány utcai fiúk

pre 11 godina

Serws should listen to him and install some of the most popular Google Chrome themes, there are few good ones to chose from. Than they will join the EU sooner and get more investment from Soros Gyuri bácsi.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-themes/flag?hl=en

Serwer is our boy, what a joy - to bad, Dell corporation is in trouble and this Serwer is just a defective Dell server. If we decide to upgrade our servers, no money will be spent on old hardware and without our money no more Kosova project.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"... but full of hate against all ethnic minorities,..."

i challenge you to come to Koso0va yourself and see what sort of pressure Turks, Croats and the Ashkali have to suffer. seriously, you outdo yourself every time you comment

Asteri

pre 11 godina

Before they used the term "international community" to describe U.S and its satellites, now its "the world" he's getting a bit excited isn't he? When did Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc; cease to be part of the world?

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold and MikeC,

When reality stares you in the face, your response is to bury your heads in the sand. This expert is giving Serbia valuable advice, but you guys think you know better than he does. Serbia has no other option but to follow his recommendations, however, being Serbs, you can't stomach hearing the truth. Where else can Serbia find such an honest opinion.

John

pre 11 godina

Not even 2 decades will be enough. Serbia will continue to extend the 1990s, with 300 Euro per month, highest debts, highest unemployment and highest inflation and plenty of mess, from Vojvodina to Presovo. The whole Serbia is the biggest frozen conflict of Europe.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Before they used the term "international community" to describe U.S and its satellites, now its "the world" he's getting a bit excited isn't he? When did Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc; cease to be part of the world?
(Asteri, 27 January 2013 16:48)

You have to ask the patriotic Serb diaspora which has generally only noticed the US and its satellites to exist and has emigrated there and not Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc. I'm sure that if the patriotic Serb diaspora had noticed the existence of the latter would choose to emigrate there.

icj1

pre 11 godina

The important thing is that serbs living in Bosnia and Kosovo look to Belgrade and not to Sarajevo or Pristina.
(MikeC, 27 January 2013 08:53)

Not sure about the Serbs in Bosnia and couldn't care less, but as far as the Serbs in Kosovo are concerned, they certainly are not looking to Belgrade if you've had a chance to follow the news...

Ned Taylor

pre 11 godina

Mike: You are right to say that the RS could get along well without following Belgrade's lead. I have always argued that BiH can continue perfectly well with the two entity system with the RS accorded semi autonomous status and that this is no bar to its possible inclusion in NATO and the EU, if it so wishes to join. What is not going to happen in a hurry is a)an independent RS, b)a third entity or c)a united BiH.

A.Lamovic

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.

Kosova-USA

pre 11 godina

He added that the documents on Kosovo, adopted by the Serbian government and parliament, were not acceptable for the world.

The man is absolutely right, but some Serb politicians + pro Serb camp on this forum were saying the opposite. Serbia will go backward unless it establishes diplomatic relations with Kosova.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

It pretty obvious that the EU suffers from expansion fatigue. Making promises to Serbia to one day join is only so the EU can get their will when it comes to Kosovo. Even if Serbia this minute recognized the independence of Kosovo new conditions would emerge soon after. Serbia is so desperat to join and the EU sees this and is taking advantage of the oportunity. I hear that other demads after recognizing Kosovo will be for Serbia to minimize the ozon layer, to pay of americas gigantic foreign debt and to send its soilders to die in all the wars created by America around the world. After that Serbia will be asked to find if there is life on Mars and if the planet Venus is really as cold as theys say. Then, and only then, Serbia might join, if it gives up Vojvodina, Presevo, RS, Sanzak, Sumadija and Belgrade and if the entire population converts to americanizm and becomes fat and lazy.

Serbia! Why bother?

Rocky

pre 11 godina

I believe we will see a more stern US & European policy directed at Serbia! The messages, if people have noticed, are more blunt and clearer! Serbia, is being tested now, the west would like to see if Serbia has really changed, into a more democratic entity? If not, in the very near future we will witness the final phases of the disentegration, of what remains of Serbia! Serbia's policy's, are leading her to the direct implosion of her artificial country. As for the Russians? Last weak Serbia also received a clear and blunt message from them as we'll, in the form of a future map of the Balkans, that is inevitable, and will happen! The Russians have on many occasions "stated" we cannot be more Serbian then the Serbs themselves! Serbia has been shown physically & told verbally, of what the Balkans will look like! I believe, if she continues "serbia" on her defiant path, she ultimately loses a lot more, both economically. & physically! It is up to her to heed the signs? The free world has sent the messages, that needed to be sent to Serbia!!!

Dragan

pre 11 godina

This guy is one of most vehement anti-Serb liars and propagandists, right up there with his fellow war criminals Albright and Holbrooke. Whatever he says, Serbia should do the exact opposite.
It sounds like a bit of sour grapes to me, he is feeling the frustration that his plan to steal 15% of sovereign Serbian territory and hand it to terrorists and organ snatchers has gone off the rails. Russia will permanently block this, and that is a fact that Serwer and his ilk just can't live with. The rescinding of recognitions has already begun with Sao Tome and Principe. I expect many others to follow, such as the Czech Republic and Montenegro once they get rid of their treasonous stooge Djukanovic out and in jail where he belongs.
Serwer, who is a completely failed analyst, who is one of the main reasons for the absolute disaster in the Balkans, actually think the EU will survive another 10 years! That's how clueless he is.
Let me tell you this Serwer, in case you are reading, Kosovo will never, ever, be independent. We Serbs will make sure of it. We will also make sure that Republika Srpska joins Serbia, that is the only way our people will be safe from the fascists you vehemently support. Got it?
Cheers!!

T

pre 11 godina

Daniel Serwer is an observer. He has nothing to gain or to loose by stating his view. He doesn't live here. Serbia on the other hand has everything to loose or to gain. Serbia has already lost Kosovo. This is made plain and simple by Daniel Serwer. Serbia could gain access to the EU, a path to possible progress and prosperity, if simply accepting the inevitable. However under leadership of Nikolic Serbia has chosen to travel a path that leads to nowhere, not to Kosovo, not to the EU, not even to Russia.
Russia, lets not forget, lends Serbia money (against interest) and with this money Serbia invests in Russian LOW-tech railway equipment. Russia also buys Serbian state run companies, such as NIS petrol, sacks its workers and milks the company for profits.
The EU, on the other hand, has already DONATED Serbia over a BILLION in hard cash to invest in projects the government of Serbia sees fit. The EU, although not perfect is a transparent & just society where people are free to travel and work and live and do business. Russia is run by a megalomaniac, where people can not even freely express their opinions without fear of ending in the Gulags. Russia is extremely corrupt and serves only the well connected. Russia is an oppressed society.
So where would Serbians rather be. Nikolic seems to think he knows.
After all, Nikolic is the name, digging graves is his game.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.
(A.Lamovic, 26 January 2013 14:18)

These Albanians are very relentless these days.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

LOL, ah Serwer the Western "expert" who wakes up bright and early foaming at the mouth and walks around with a ton of Serbo-phobia on its shoulders has came back to tell us again what Serbia should or shouldn't be doing.

He says its Romanticism for Serbia to rather have close relations with Russia than to join the EU, but it seems more than anything he's scared of such a policy change because it does not fit his twisted discourse how he thinks the Balkans should look like. Maybe hes coming in to some fresh organ extracted money so has to keep spewing because John Hopkins might not be paying the big bucks he'd like.

Anyway there is no reason why Serbia should join the EU anymore. The idea that it will bring a better living standard has proven to be a myth. Joining the same political union as Germany will not bring Serbs a German standard of living. The EU has been exposed as a giant waste of money and a bigger waste of time.

This very idea came from the Serbian leftists post 2000, you know the commies and otporista's who said Serbian national interests are a thing of the past and now foreigners will show us the right wake and will hold our hand into prosperity. This has so far proven no results because although Serbia is not a member of the EU it has followed whatever the EU has asked of it and for 13 years it has not shown any progress.

Time for a change, your type have failed.

lowe

pre 11 godina

“It will take Serbia decade to join EU”

Provided the EU is still around then. And even if it is, Serbia may well end up giving up an arm and a leg to join a dysfunctional nightmare ...... too late for regrets then. Doesn't this possibility ever occur to Belgrade?

winston

pre 11 godina

He (Serwer) added that he still believed that the Ahtisaari plan was the best solution and that he did not see why Serbia would not accept it. Because, Daniel, the Ahtisaari plan gives Kosovo away to the Albanians, by what right? There are many places in the world, both historically and currently, that have ethnic conflicts, but did not or will not result in giving away of territory. As for the rest of Serwer's comments, I find him to be a direct spokesperson for Pristina, he always has been. How one supposed expert can be so biased is ridiculous, unless he has a personal agenda. Why do you never mention, Daniel, that Pristina is run by narco-terrorists? That the country is a drug hub for the Afghanistan-EU route? It's easy to gang up on Serbia, but please take a long look at who you are advocating for. Serbia will take more than a decade to join the EU, it has many things to change, Daniel, so do the Albanians.

T

pre 11 godina

I see a lot of nationalistic and anti EU/American rhetoric in response to Daniel Serwer's views. what you nationalists fail to understand is that Kosovo is not salvageable. Whether recognized by some and not by others is not the point. The point is what is best for Serbia.

Robert1899

pre 11 godina

Hvala bogu, the E.U. will be a very different organization in less than a decade. There will be countries begging to get out once Germany enforces austerity measures to rein in the sovereign debt crisis.

Vuk

pre 11 godina

Who cares about what this bad apple has to say.
Why is his name even being published?

No one knows Serbia better then Serbs. We don't need some hand out politically spoiled US clown sharing ideas.
The US Serb lobby needs to go after this guy. Lets start with his tax returns....
This guy is a bad apple, period.

George Moyich

pre 11 godina

It is time for USA to stay out of the European business. It is unfortunate that some of the European countries have made Kosovo issue an EU entry issue. Of all of the Balkan countries Serbia has been segregate for political reasons. Serbia, centrally located, is a critical part in the Balkans to solidify Balkans in EU. It is time to treat Serbia fairly and on equal basis with rest of the Balkan countries.

george

pre 11 godina

Everyone is saying Mr Serwer should shut up. Well he's right the EU will make you recognize Kosovo independence if you wish to join the EU. Any Serb who thinks different should have their heads examined.You are the ones who will be guilty and you alone of losing Kosovo and selling out your brothers/sisters. DON'T BLAME ANYONE ELSE!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"“It will take Serbia decade to join EU”"

From Kosovo's perspective (which aligns with that of the likes of Serb true patriots like Peggy, Ari Gold, etc. etc.) Serbia should not (ask and/or be allowed) to become an EU member ever.

really

pre 11 godina

somehow this troll lover believes the "world" rotates around US policies. wrong. and hopefully one day this "expert" gets some albo reciprocity.

dr

pre 11 godina

"He added that the documents on Kosovo, adopted by the Serbian government and parliament, were not acceptable for the world. "
Mr. Server, most of the american foreign policy is quite not acceptable for the rest of the world, and so what?

winston

pre 11 godina

T, read the link, and get real. People like you only sing the praises of the EU, yet never miss an opportunity to put down Serbia.
http://www.euractiv.com/pa/eu-struggles-open-transparency-news-503484
The is no Shangri-La, for sure.

what a joke

pre 11 godina

US expert for the Balkans? Isn't that an oxymoron? Since when have the US been experts at any international region? They are a nation of overweight, uneducated fools with no history or culture and most cannot even find their own country on a map of the world!!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"After all, Nikolic is the name, digging graves is his game."

T

At least Nikolic had a job before he became a politican. What did Thaci and Haradinaj do before they became politicians? Don't even answere! We already know the answer to that.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Normally I'd dismiss Serwer as last week's news. Considering he's not in any position of power in the US Government anymore, and is in even less of any position of authority when it comes to the EU, this is hardly anything to take seriously. But considering also these ultimatums he appears to be pulling out of thin air as he's giving the interview concern joining an organization no one wants to join and current members want to leave, I think conditioning membership to such an unpopular organization with requirements everyone knows Serbia won't do makes this entire article's focus irrelevant. And at the very least, if it will take Serbia a decade to join, I'd hate to see how long the most multiethnic, tolerant, and youngest democratic society has :)

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"The man is absolutely right"

Kosovo-USA

Well of course he must be right if he is pro alb. If it was an american or european saying something negative about albanians then he is " a nobody paid by Belgrade" . You albs have no grasp of reality what so ever.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"I do not believe that the platform is a step forward. It reiterates Serbia’s request for sovereignty over whole of Kosovo, suggesting a special self-government for Albanians that would become second-class citizens in Serbia.
....
He added that he still believed that the Ahtisaari plan was the best solution and that he did not see why Serbia would not accept it."

And Serbs in Kosovo with a self-government in the North would become second class citizens in Kosovo.

After ten years, even a blind man should see that the 'multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo' is an illusion, it's neither democratic but in the hand of a bunch of rivaling, election faking mafia clans who call themselves 'politicians', nor is it 'multiethnic' in any way, but full of hate against all ethnic minorities, especially Serbs.

For me, the best solution would be drawing new borders along the Ibar river.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

I Quote -

U.S. expert for the Balkans Daniel Serwer told daily Večernje novosti that Serbia would not join the EU in the next decade.

Comment.

Swedish expert for the Balkans Arn says to Srbia that Serbia would not join the EU ever.

Arn.Sweden.

Joachim

pre 11 godina

“If you are under the impression that the process is only causing you pain, then maybe you are in the wrong process,” he was quoted as saying.

Sounds like a good conclusion.
Call a referendum on EU integration, NOW !!!

MikeS

pre 11 godina

It would seem that Serwer is merely voicing what he and his government want rather what he believes is 'realistic'.... as usual.

JohnBoy

pre 11 godina

If serwer says that it will take Serbia 10 years to join the eu, then why bother with it? Serbia could make more money making separate trade agreements with each eu nation then be restricted by stupid eu regulations. If Serbia abandons the eu integration, the us state department will pay this guy a nasty visit.

Calling himself an expert on the Balkans is how this clown makes his living - how much did he charge the newspaper for this interview?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"... but full of hate against all ethnic minorities,..."

i challenge you to come to Koso0va yourself and see what sort of pressure Turks, Croats and the Ashkali have to suffer. seriously, you outdo yourself every time you comment

Dohány utcai fiúk

pre 11 godina

Serws should listen to him and install some of the most popular Google Chrome themes, there are few good ones to chose from. Than they will join the EU sooner and get more investment from Soros Gyuri bácsi.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-themes/flag?hl=en

Serwer is our boy, what a joy - to bad, Dell corporation is in trouble and this Serwer is just a defective Dell server. If we decide to upgrade our servers, no money will be spent on old hardware and without our money no more Kosova project.

ZZ

pre 11 godina

Serwer said that a problem for Serbia was a fact that it was still open to “romantic ideas”.

Mr Serwer holds a few romantic ideas of his own. First, that the misguided nature of his lifes work will endure. That empires are permanent and can dictate the long term course of history. That he understands the nature of "ancestral home". That his "academics" weren't the result of being on the right side of military power. That the beneficiaries of his ideas don't enrich themselves and their friends in illegal and immoral ways.

His most romantic notion is that he will live forever and that God is not watching.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Before they used the term "international community" to describe U.S and its satellites, now its "the world" he's getting a bit excited isn't he? When did Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc; cease to be part of the world?
(Asteri, 27 January 2013 16:48)

You have to ask the patriotic Serb diaspora which has generally only noticed the US and its satellites to exist and has emigrated there and not Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc. I'm sure that if the patriotic Serb diaspora had noticed the existence of the latter would choose to emigrate there.

T

pre 11 godina

Winston, I never put down Serbia. I love Serbia! I also love the idea of a united Europe. You take one article as an example of why Serbia should not be part of the EU but I give you one reason why Serbia should be part. Peace!
Since the formation of the EU this continent has had the single longest lasting period of peace then in any other time in history.
Europe works very well for me and for millions who work, live and travel there freely. If you gave it a chance you might actually like it too.

ned taylor

pre 11 godina

Mike C: You mention in jest that Serbia wouldn't be able to join the EU even if it gives up the RS..........I wasn't aware that it was in posession of this territory. Yes, many Serbs live there and it was until 1992 a part of Jugoslavia but as far as I know, and I am happy to be put right, the RS was never a part of Serbia. The original goal was to 'merge' with Serbia, not to re-unite. As to the article itself, although Serwer is an American I get the impression that the views expressed are his own. I don't necessarily agree with him, but I think he is probably right about the overall attitudes of the USA administration and the majority of EU member governments.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold and MikeC,

When reality stares you in the face, your response is to bury your heads in the sand. This expert is giving Serbia valuable advice, but you guys think you know better than he does. Serbia has no other option but to follow his recommendations, however, being Serbs, you can't stomach hearing the truth. Where else can Serbia find such an honest opinion.

John

pre 11 godina

Not even 2 decades will be enough. Serbia will continue to extend the 1990s, with 300 Euro per month, highest debts, highest unemployment and highest inflation and plenty of mess, from Vojvodina to Presovo. The whole Serbia is the biggest frozen conflict of Europe.

Была ибарская граница - а теперь наша стран&#

pre 11 godina

For me, the best solution would be drawing new borders along the Ibar river.
(Comm. Parrisson, 26 January 2013 21:10)

For me the simplest solution would be to send the Russian Army with full VVS support there and make the damn KosovA look like a smoking crater, no mercy. But I am aware, that is risky, dumb and old-style. And too much casualties. And many dead Albanians could be potentially good customers of us. Not a good idea to kill your customer. So maybe not. Newer style is slower but maybe more efficient - like owning all the energy suplies, all logistics and all making sure, all American military runs software made by us. Things going that way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7JVvJk6R0

I know, this will generate a lot of lovely "-" votes from Albanians but as million times being said: the only thing better than Great and Big Russia is the Even Greater and Bigger Russia™.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Ned Taylor

Serbia is not in possesion of RS but it gives support to RS. Same thing with Kosovo where Serbia lost control after the war ended. However, it still has control over its people an politics. The west is constantly asking Serbia to give up its support to Serbian institutions in Kosovo and they will do the same with RS. In RS however there are over one million serbs so they could manage well without Belgrade after all. The important thing is that serbs living in Bosnia and Kosovo look to Belgrade and not to Sarajevo or Pristina.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"Serbia has no other option but to follow his recommendations, however, being Serbs, you can't stomach hearing the truth. Where else can Serbia find such an honest opinion."

The Count of Kosova

If Serbia should follow his opinion then why doesn't Serbia recognize Kosovo? And of course its an "honest" opinion because its favorable to albanians. Let me tell you something. Americans don't care for anyone but themselves and their interests. You are shoving your head up your own a.s which is why you fail to see the obvious.

icj1

pre 11 godina

The important thing is that serbs living in Bosnia and Kosovo look to Belgrade and not to Sarajevo or Pristina.
(MikeC, 27 January 2013 08:53)

Not sure about the Serbs in Bosnia and couldn't care less, but as far as the Serbs in Kosovo are concerned, they certainly are not looking to Belgrade if you've had a chance to follow the news...

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Kosovo is independent Atisari plan I have Kosovo passport accept it as a serb I have beter live in Kosovo live us along we hapy to live in Kosovo.
(A.Lamovic, 26 January 2013 14:18)
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A lamo you certainly are if you think anyone is buying that you are a Serb and enjoying life in "Kosova".

Ned Taylor

pre 11 godina

Mike: You are right to say that the RS could get along well without following Belgrade's lead. I have always argued that BiH can continue perfectly well with the two entity system with the RS accorded semi autonomous status and that this is no bar to its possible inclusion in NATO and the EU, if it so wishes to join. What is not going to happen in a hurry is a)an independent RS, b)a third entity or c)a united BiH.

Asteri

pre 11 godina

Before they used the term "international community" to describe U.S and its satellites, now its "the world" he's getting a bit excited isn't he? When did Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran, Greece, Spain, Azerbaijan, Venezuela , South Africa, Mexico, Kazakhstan etc; cease to be part of the world?

thanasis

pre 11 godina

It's those western think tanks and their "expert" analysts that have created this mess in former Yugoslavia by imposing the internal titoist borders between democraties as international borders between states ignoring the multiethnic reality of Jugoslavia. He is right though about one thing: That Serbia and its romantic nationalism is not welcome in the EU. Actually EU and the rest of the western world wants to see Serbia on its knees. So why does Serbia even bother and wastes time and effort? In a decade's time, assuming that the EU still exists in its current form, there will be more countries begging to leave it than those asking to join it. Serbia should seek other alliances away from the EU one way street to failure.