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UN seat for Kosovo to be discussed, ambassador says

German Ambassador to Serbia Heinz Wilhelm has stated that Kosovo’s UN membership is one of the issues that should be discussed in Brussels.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

>> It still keeps Kosovo from being anything than a guest of a real country if it wants to talk at the Security Council.
(I can do this All Day, 24 January 2013 23:27)

More importantly, it keeps the Serbian army out and forces the collection of custom duties at the Kosovo's boundaries with Serbia.

moris

pre 11 godina

But continue with your hate, and pushing the poor Serbs to substitute their blood for your lack of worthlessness.
(koko,
What hate ? The facts are there. Germany have a anti Serbian lobby. When they open their mouth it seems like they play a tape.They always sing the same song. They never condemn any albanian bad behaviour. And by the way german soldiers are in Kosovo to protect who ? Think about this.

lukebuyenovich

pre 11 godina

Mr.Heinz Wilhelm (Germany's Ambassador to Serbia)Stated:"Kosovo UN membershipis is one of the issues that should be discussed in Brussels"
That statement coming from German official is a stark reminder of shameful document Prince Paul signed in Vienna March,25 1941.Give Kosovo to Albanians terrorists would for ever stain the character of Serbian Nation.I do not see what so beneficial there for Serbia to join EU-New European Empire which is teetering on the edge economic collapse.Serbia should remind itself,there is European countries who do economically well without belonging to EU-NEW EUROPEAN EMPIRE.

I can do this All Day

pre 11 godina

Well the UN recognises Palestine's borders for starters, therefore it doesn't recognise Israel's claims to Palestinian lands. Palestine is now able to take Israel to the ICJ.

>> Good. Kosovo is nowhere near the level Palestine has, and yet Israel can still do what it wants in an area the UN doesn't recognize at its.

So the UN won't recognise Kosovo as being apart of Serbia and the only reason it does now is by default.

>> The only reason why it does so now is because Serbia is an internationally recognized country while Kosovo is an internationally run region.

And if Serbia tries anything, Kosovo would be in it's right to take Serbia to the ICJ.

>> You need to be a recognized country to raise a case in the ICJ. Lately, Kosovo has been doing enough damage for Serbia to take it to the ICJ.

This will basically crush Serbia's international legal argument therefore they start banging on more and more about their constitution instead, which they're currently doing at the moment; you don't here the number "1244" much these days as it. They used to love that four digit number.

>> It still keeps Kosovo from being anything than a guest of a real country if it wants to talk at the Security Council. Your future scenario is unrealistic. Sorry Ian.

think again

pre 11 godina

Neil Craig, 24 January 2013 16:43) Typical Serbian exaggeration. Eulex has only been around since 2009, and has only been on the investigating since 2011. So the investigation is less than 2 years. But the history is:
ICTY investigation--not enough evidence to support any action.
UNMIK investigation--not enough evidence to support any action.
Dick Marty Report: Review of evidence, should be reinvestigated, however, per his report, IF, it did happen no where near the numbers Serbia has given, maybe in the 10's and not the 100's
The Nuremberg trials were investigating actual crimes that were well established. To date no one knows that there is actually a organ harvesting crime committed as related to the KLA.
Your 15 minutes of fame as victims is almost over.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

How's that working for Palestine? Probably better since they set their sights lowers. Albanians in Kosovo aren't that pragmatic.
(US Veto, 24 January 2013 19:56)

Well the UN recognises Palestine's borders for starters, therefore it doesn't recognise Israel's claims to Palestinian lands. Palestine is now able to take Israel to the ICJ.

So the UN won't recognise Kosovo as being apart of Serbia and the only reason it does now is by default. And if Serbia tries anything, Kosovo would be in it's right to take Serbia to the ICJ. This will basically crush Serbia's international legal argument therefore they start banging on more and more about their constitution instead, which they're currently doing at the moment; you don't here the number "1244" much these days as it. They used to love that four digit number.

US Veto

pre 11 godina

After this, the UN will recognise the proper borders of the Balkans. Then Kosovo will be able to use Serbia's favourite phrase "status neutral".
(Ian, UK, 24 January 2013 19:08)

How's that working for Palestine? Probably better since they set their sights lowers. Albanians in Kosovo aren't that pragmatic.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Dear Kosovo,

We're waiting for you. Don't unpack. You won't stay long.
(Russian and Chinese Veto, 24 January 2013 15:40)

Is there a Russian and Chinese veto in the UN General Assembly?

So when Kosovo applies to become a Permanent Observer Member State (State being the key word), which goes to a General Assembly vote and not the Security Council; Russia and China won't be able to veto this?

I thought not.

After this, the UN will recognise the proper borders of the Balkans. Then Kosovo will be able to use Serbia's favourite phrase "status neutral".

Jo-Jo

pre 11 godina

Euro start WWI Serb Winner
Euro first dream with WWII Hitler: temporarry NDH + big Albo done.
Euro second dream continue with endless condition is in the progres.
Euro third dream elimination of the Serbs from the Balkan don't work.

Common Sense

pre 11 godina

"It's clear that the dictators won't allow Serbia in until they are completely separate from Kosovo."

Kosova has been completely separate from Serbia since June 1999. All that is required from you it to recognize the reality and reject any colonialist ambitions, if you want to become part of EU. You should subscribe to EU's principles, if you want to be part of EU.

Did you guys really, really, think it would be otherwise? Did you think you'd be accepted in EU while playing these theatrics?

Wait until Croatia is officially in EU and you'll get it written in black and white, that you must recognize Kosova to move ahead. You don't like it? You can always join Russia

pss

pre 11 godina

trizo,
Serbia should stop the EU mission.
Curious as to your thoughts on how Serbia could possibly do this? Overwhelm us with your wisdom because as I see it Serbia does not have the possibility

werner Deutster

pre 11 godina

Finally, a clear statement from my country, Germany. Thank you, this was long overdue! it is a very simple equation. Serbia abolishes the paralell structers in Northern Kosovo, and gives up it's oposition to a Kosovo UN seat and other international representation, and in return they get a date for the start of EU talks. This is internation reality, and nothing else works. Nicolic needs to be told straight out what the deal is, and no more beating around the bush. Take it, or leave it!!! Dacic already seems to know, but now oit it finally is out in the open. Bravo!!!

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I guess this guy doesnt know the laws of the country he lives in. In order for us to join the eu there must be a referendum and I can tell you right away what the result of that will be. Just a couple of weeks ago there was a survey that stated that 63.%of the population says no to the EU so Mr. German you can say whatever you want, we dont give a sh**!

ZZ

pre 11 godina

And there you go! No more demands eh? The carrot keeps moving inch by inch and will not stop until Serbia has had enough of this stupid degrading game.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Wilhelm said Germany wanted Serbia to become an EU member as soon as possible but that it did not accept any country that would bring its problems in the Union."

Does it include not accepting self-proclaimed mafia states as members which not only BRING problems into the Union, but ARE a problem, as whole?

koko

pre 11 godina

"Serbia keep in mind the germans are your enemies.
(moris, "

Exactly, even the Sorboi have not been extinct since the 500 ad. Let alone the majority of Serb immigrants who have a better life.

But continue with your hate, and pushing the poor Serbs to substitute their blood for your lack of worthlessness.

moris

pre 11 godina

Be honest germany ! And look for an honest solution.
The fact is that after the german bombs (NATO)hit serbia they didn't win the war completely. This makes them mad and keep insisting on bribing serbia for EU entery.
It is an old song we heard before. Germany always asks more and more.
Until they own serbia.
Serbia keep in mind the germans are your enemies.
The latest events proove that serbs have no chance to survive in racist kosovo.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Serbia should stop the EU mission. It's clear that the dictators won't allow Serbia in until they are completely separate from Kosovo. This should never be allowed to happen. Kosovo will never be independent of Serbia. Germany openly states that multiculturalism does not work. How can he claim such demands when his country is still a fascist state.

Rule 1# Never listen to Germans. Never.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

This is a person with class my Freind. Welcome to the next level. Everything good, comes slowly!
The key for Serbia? The EU, will not allow for new members to bring problems into the EU! Serbia, you defiantly have a problem! That problem is, stop trying to hold Kosova hostage! It's quite clear, its actually been quite clear for a while now!

Rocky

pre 11 godina

This is a person with class my Freind. Welcome to the next level. Everything good, comes slowly!
The key for Serbia? The EU, will not allow for new members to bring problems into the EU! Serbia, you defiantly have a problem! That problem is, stop trying to hold Kosova hostage! It's quite clear, its actually been quite clear for a while now!

werner Deutster

pre 11 godina

Finally, a clear statement from my country, Germany. Thank you, this was long overdue! it is a very simple equation. Serbia abolishes the paralell structers in Northern Kosovo, and gives up it's oposition to a Kosovo UN seat and other international representation, and in return they get a date for the start of EU talks. This is internation reality, and nothing else works. Nicolic needs to be told straight out what the deal is, and no more beating around the bush. Take it, or leave it!!! Dacic already seems to know, but now oit it finally is out in the open. Bravo!!!

moris

pre 11 godina

Be honest germany ! And look for an honest solution.
The fact is that after the german bombs (NATO)hit serbia they didn't win the war completely. This makes them mad and keep insisting on bribing serbia for EU entery.
It is an old song we heard before. Germany always asks more and more.
Until they own serbia.
Serbia keep in mind the germans are your enemies.
The latest events proove that serbs have no chance to survive in racist kosovo.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Serbia should stop the EU mission. It's clear that the dictators won't allow Serbia in until they are completely separate from Kosovo. This should never be allowed to happen. Kosovo will never be independent of Serbia. Germany openly states that multiculturalism does not work. How can he claim such demands when his country is still a fascist state.

Rule 1# Never listen to Germans. Never.

pss

pre 11 godina

trizo,
Serbia should stop the EU mission.
Curious as to your thoughts on how Serbia could possibly do this? Overwhelm us with your wisdom because as I see it Serbia does not have the possibility

Common Sense

pre 11 godina

"It's clear that the dictators won't allow Serbia in until they are completely separate from Kosovo."

Kosova has been completely separate from Serbia since June 1999. All that is required from you it to recognize the reality and reject any colonialist ambitions, if you want to become part of EU. You should subscribe to EU's principles, if you want to be part of EU.

Did you guys really, really, think it would be otherwise? Did you think you'd be accepted in EU while playing these theatrics?

Wait until Croatia is officially in EU and you'll get it written in black and white, that you must recognize Kosova to move ahead. You don't like it? You can always join Russia

koko

pre 11 godina

"Serbia keep in mind the germans are your enemies.
(moris, "

Exactly, even the Sorboi have not been extinct since the 500 ad. Let alone the majority of Serb immigrants who have a better life.

But continue with your hate, and pushing the poor Serbs to substitute their blood for your lack of worthlessness.

ZZ

pre 11 godina

And there you go! No more demands eh? The carrot keeps moving inch by inch and will not stop until Serbia has had enough of this stupid degrading game.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I guess this guy doesnt know the laws of the country he lives in. In order for us to join the eu there must be a referendum and I can tell you right away what the result of that will be. Just a couple of weeks ago there was a survey that stated that 63.%of the population says no to the EU so Mr. German you can say whatever you want, we dont give a sh**!

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Dear Kosovo,

We're waiting for you. Don't unpack. You won't stay long.
(Russian and Chinese Veto, 24 January 2013 15:40)

Is there a Russian and Chinese veto in the UN General Assembly?

So when Kosovo applies to become a Permanent Observer Member State (State being the key word), which goes to a General Assembly vote and not the Security Council; Russia and China won't be able to veto this?

I thought not.

After this, the UN will recognise the proper borders of the Balkans. Then Kosovo will be able to use Serbia's favourite phrase "status neutral".

I can do this All Day

pre 11 godina

Well the UN recognises Palestine's borders for starters, therefore it doesn't recognise Israel's claims to Palestinian lands. Palestine is now able to take Israel to the ICJ.

>> Good. Kosovo is nowhere near the level Palestine has, and yet Israel can still do what it wants in an area the UN doesn't recognize at its.

So the UN won't recognise Kosovo as being apart of Serbia and the only reason it does now is by default.

>> The only reason why it does so now is because Serbia is an internationally recognized country while Kosovo is an internationally run region.

And if Serbia tries anything, Kosovo would be in it's right to take Serbia to the ICJ.

>> You need to be a recognized country to raise a case in the ICJ. Lately, Kosovo has been doing enough damage for Serbia to take it to the ICJ.

This will basically crush Serbia's international legal argument therefore they start banging on more and more about their constitution instead, which they're currently doing at the moment; you don't here the number "1244" much these days as it. They used to love that four digit number.

>> It still keeps Kosovo from being anything than a guest of a real country if it wants to talk at the Security Council. Your future scenario is unrealistic. Sorry Ian.

Jo-Jo

pre 11 godina

Euro start WWI Serb Winner
Euro first dream with WWII Hitler: temporarry NDH + big Albo done.
Euro second dream continue with endless condition is in the progres.
Euro third dream elimination of the Serbs from the Balkan don't work.

US Veto

pre 11 godina

After this, the UN will recognise the proper borders of the Balkans. Then Kosovo will be able to use Serbia's favourite phrase "status neutral".
(Ian, UK, 24 January 2013 19:08)

How's that working for Palestine? Probably better since they set their sights lowers. Albanians in Kosovo aren't that pragmatic.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

How's that working for Palestine? Probably better since they set their sights lowers. Albanians in Kosovo aren't that pragmatic.
(US Veto, 24 January 2013 19:56)

Well the UN recognises Palestine's borders for starters, therefore it doesn't recognise Israel's claims to Palestinian lands. Palestine is now able to take Israel to the ICJ.

So the UN won't recognise Kosovo as being apart of Serbia and the only reason it does now is by default. And if Serbia tries anything, Kosovo would be in it's right to take Serbia to the ICJ. This will basically crush Serbia's international legal argument therefore they start banging on more and more about their constitution instead, which they're currently doing at the moment; you don't here the number "1244" much these days as it. They used to love that four digit number.

think again

pre 11 godina

Neil Craig, 24 January 2013 16:43) Typical Serbian exaggeration. Eulex has only been around since 2009, and has only been on the investigating since 2011. So the investigation is less than 2 years. But the history is:
ICTY investigation--not enough evidence to support any action.
UNMIK investigation--not enough evidence to support any action.
Dick Marty Report: Review of evidence, should be reinvestigated, however, per his report, IF, it did happen no where near the numbers Serbia has given, maybe in the 10's and not the 100's
The Nuremberg trials were investigating actual crimes that were well established. To date no one knows that there is actually a organ harvesting crime committed as related to the KLA.
Your 15 minutes of fame as victims is almost over.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Wilhelm said Germany wanted Serbia to become an EU member as soon as possible but that it did not accept any country that would bring its problems in the Union."

Does it include not accepting self-proclaimed mafia states as members which not only BRING problems into the Union, but ARE a problem, as whole?

lukebuyenovich

pre 11 godina

Mr.Heinz Wilhelm (Germany's Ambassador to Serbia)Stated:"Kosovo UN membershipis is one of the issues that should be discussed in Brussels"
That statement coming from German official is a stark reminder of shameful document Prince Paul signed in Vienna March,25 1941.Give Kosovo to Albanians terrorists would for ever stain the character of Serbian Nation.I do not see what so beneficial there for Serbia to join EU-New European Empire which is teetering on the edge economic collapse.Serbia should remind itself,there is European countries who do economically well without belonging to EU-NEW EUROPEAN EMPIRE.

moris

pre 11 godina

But continue with your hate, and pushing the poor Serbs to substitute their blood for your lack of worthlessness.
(koko,
What hate ? The facts are there. Germany have a anti Serbian lobby. When they open their mouth it seems like they play a tape.They always sing the same song. They never condemn any albanian bad behaviour. And by the way german soldiers are in Kosovo to protect who ? Think about this.

icj1

pre 11 godina

>> It still keeps Kosovo from being anything than a guest of a real country if it wants to talk at the Security Council.
(I can do this All Day, 24 January 2013 23:27)

More importantly, it keeps the Serbian army out and forces the collection of custom duties at the Kosovo's boundaries with Serbia.

moris

pre 11 godina

Be honest germany ! And look for an honest solution.
The fact is that after the german bombs (NATO)hit serbia they didn't win the war completely. This makes them mad and keep insisting on bribing serbia for EU entery.
It is an old song we heard before. Germany always asks more and more.
Until they own serbia.
Serbia keep in mind the germans are your enemies.
The latest events proove that serbs have no chance to survive in racist kosovo.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Serbia should stop the EU mission. It's clear that the dictators won't allow Serbia in until they are completely separate from Kosovo. This should never be allowed to happen. Kosovo will never be independent of Serbia. Germany openly states that multiculturalism does not work. How can he claim such demands when his country is still a fascist state.

Rule 1# Never listen to Germans. Never.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Wilhelm said Germany wanted Serbia to become an EU member as soon as possible but that it did not accept any country that would bring its problems in the Union."

Does it include not accepting self-proclaimed mafia states as members which not only BRING problems into the Union, but ARE a problem, as whole?

werner Deutster

pre 11 godina

Finally, a clear statement from my country, Germany. Thank you, this was long overdue! it is a very simple equation. Serbia abolishes the paralell structers in Northern Kosovo, and gives up it's oposition to a Kosovo UN seat and other international representation, and in return they get a date for the start of EU talks. This is internation reality, and nothing else works. Nicolic needs to be told straight out what the deal is, and no more beating around the bush. Take it, or leave it!!! Dacic already seems to know, but now oit it finally is out in the open. Bravo!!!

Rocky

pre 11 godina

This is a person with class my Freind. Welcome to the next level. Everything good, comes slowly!
The key for Serbia? The EU, will not allow for new members to bring problems into the EU! Serbia, you defiantly have a problem! That problem is, stop trying to hold Kosova hostage! It's quite clear, its actually been quite clear for a while now!

Jo-Jo

pre 11 godina

Euro start WWI Serb Winner
Euro first dream with WWII Hitler: temporarry NDH + big Albo done.
Euro second dream continue with endless condition is in the progres.
Euro third dream elimination of the Serbs from the Balkan don't work.

pss

pre 11 godina

trizo,
Serbia should stop the EU mission.
Curious as to your thoughts on how Serbia could possibly do this? Overwhelm us with your wisdom because as I see it Serbia does not have the possibility

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I guess this guy doesnt know the laws of the country he lives in. In order for us to join the eu there must be a referendum and I can tell you right away what the result of that will be. Just a couple of weeks ago there was a survey that stated that 63.%of the population says no to the EU so Mr. German you can say whatever you want, we dont give a sh**!

koko

pre 11 godina

"Serbia keep in mind the germans are your enemies.
(moris, "

Exactly, even the Sorboi have not been extinct since the 500 ad. Let alone the majority of Serb immigrants who have a better life.

But continue with your hate, and pushing the poor Serbs to substitute their blood for your lack of worthlessness.

ZZ

pre 11 godina

And there you go! No more demands eh? The carrot keeps moving inch by inch and will not stop until Serbia has had enough of this stupid degrading game.

Common Sense

pre 11 godina

"It's clear that the dictators won't allow Serbia in until they are completely separate from Kosovo."

Kosova has been completely separate from Serbia since June 1999. All that is required from you it to recognize the reality and reject any colonialist ambitions, if you want to become part of EU. You should subscribe to EU's principles, if you want to be part of EU.

Did you guys really, really, think it would be otherwise? Did you think you'd be accepted in EU while playing these theatrics?

Wait until Croatia is officially in EU and you'll get it written in black and white, that you must recognize Kosova to move ahead. You don't like it? You can always join Russia

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

How's that working for Palestine? Probably better since they set their sights lowers. Albanians in Kosovo aren't that pragmatic.
(US Veto, 24 January 2013 19:56)

Well the UN recognises Palestine's borders for starters, therefore it doesn't recognise Israel's claims to Palestinian lands. Palestine is now able to take Israel to the ICJ.

So the UN won't recognise Kosovo as being apart of Serbia and the only reason it does now is by default. And if Serbia tries anything, Kosovo would be in it's right to take Serbia to the ICJ. This will basically crush Serbia's international legal argument therefore they start banging on more and more about their constitution instead, which they're currently doing at the moment; you don't here the number "1244" much these days as it. They used to love that four digit number.

lukebuyenovich

pre 11 godina

Mr.Heinz Wilhelm (Germany's Ambassador to Serbia)Stated:"Kosovo UN membershipis is one of the issues that should be discussed in Brussels"
That statement coming from German official is a stark reminder of shameful document Prince Paul signed in Vienna March,25 1941.Give Kosovo to Albanians terrorists would for ever stain the character of Serbian Nation.I do not see what so beneficial there for Serbia to join EU-New European Empire which is teetering on the edge economic collapse.Serbia should remind itself,there is European countries who do economically well without belonging to EU-NEW EUROPEAN EMPIRE.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Dear Kosovo,

We're waiting for you. Don't unpack. You won't stay long.
(Russian and Chinese Veto, 24 January 2013 15:40)

Is there a Russian and Chinese veto in the UN General Assembly?

So when Kosovo applies to become a Permanent Observer Member State (State being the key word), which goes to a General Assembly vote and not the Security Council; Russia and China won't be able to veto this?

I thought not.

After this, the UN will recognise the proper borders of the Balkans. Then Kosovo will be able to use Serbia's favourite phrase "status neutral".

US Veto

pre 11 godina

After this, the UN will recognise the proper borders of the Balkans. Then Kosovo will be able to use Serbia's favourite phrase "status neutral".
(Ian, UK, 24 January 2013 19:08)

How's that working for Palestine? Probably better since they set their sights lowers. Albanians in Kosovo aren't that pragmatic.

I can do this All Day

pre 11 godina

Well the UN recognises Palestine's borders for starters, therefore it doesn't recognise Israel's claims to Palestinian lands. Palestine is now able to take Israel to the ICJ.

>> Good. Kosovo is nowhere near the level Palestine has, and yet Israel can still do what it wants in an area the UN doesn't recognize at its.

So the UN won't recognise Kosovo as being apart of Serbia and the only reason it does now is by default.

>> The only reason why it does so now is because Serbia is an internationally recognized country while Kosovo is an internationally run region.

And if Serbia tries anything, Kosovo would be in it's right to take Serbia to the ICJ.

>> You need to be a recognized country to raise a case in the ICJ. Lately, Kosovo has been doing enough damage for Serbia to take it to the ICJ.

This will basically crush Serbia's international legal argument therefore they start banging on more and more about their constitution instead, which they're currently doing at the moment; you don't here the number "1244" much these days as it. They used to love that four digit number.

>> It still keeps Kosovo from being anything than a guest of a real country if it wants to talk at the Security Council. Your future scenario is unrealistic. Sorry Ian.

think again

pre 11 godina

Neil Craig, 24 January 2013 16:43) Typical Serbian exaggeration. Eulex has only been around since 2009, and has only been on the investigating since 2011. So the investigation is less than 2 years. But the history is:
ICTY investigation--not enough evidence to support any action.
UNMIK investigation--not enough evidence to support any action.
Dick Marty Report: Review of evidence, should be reinvestigated, however, per his report, IF, it did happen no where near the numbers Serbia has given, maybe in the 10's and not the 100's
The Nuremberg trials were investigating actual crimes that were well established. To date no one knows that there is actually a organ harvesting crime committed as related to the KLA.
Your 15 minutes of fame as victims is almost over.

icj1

pre 11 godina

>> It still keeps Kosovo from being anything than a guest of a real country if it wants to talk at the Security Council.
(I can do this All Day, 24 January 2013 23:27)

More importantly, it keeps the Serbian army out and forces the collection of custom duties at the Kosovo's boundaries with Serbia.

moris

pre 11 godina

But continue with your hate, and pushing the poor Serbs to substitute their blood for your lack of worthlessness.
(koko,
What hate ? The facts are there. Germany have a anti Serbian lobby. When they open their mouth it seems like they play a tape.They always sing the same song. They never condemn any albanian bad behaviour. And by the way german soldiers are in Kosovo to protect who ? Think about this.