"Desecrating cemeteries goes against civilization"

There should not be any excuses for such an acts.

Come on. We live in the 21st sentury and the Albanians are behaving like we were still in the 15th.
Somebody should prevent it from happening, protect the Serbs and their cemeteries as well as historical monuments.

Desecration of cemeteries and historical monuments is beyond the complete human history and culture.

Animals.

On the contrary.Desecrating cemeteries is a national Albanian sport encouraged by their Western bosses.

Europe wake up!!!
Protect the Serbs.

don´t worry, we will erect them again, as soon as KiM is liberated again.

...as for these cowardly acts: I think the Albanians cannot but do this! it is their way of showing how miserable and weak they actually are.

This is cultural genocide committed in Kosovo. This by very far away from any European value. As a German, I am disgusted by such acts of barbarism.

You started the domino effect. Now live with it.
(Kosova-USA, 22 January 2013 11:07)

Wrong again, you started it by putting up a monument over terrorists.

@Ivica,
You started the domino effect. Now live with it.
(Kosova-USA, 22 January 2013 11:07)

Good job, keep proving that you and your people are not fit for the civilized world. Keep it up and not even Ian will be able to defend you anymore.

And when you commit these disgusting acts, he will conveniently stay away from B92 on those days only to reappear.

should have taken a narrower picture as it shows the neglect this cemetary has received from the very people that are appalled by its desecretion. Abandoned and neglected graveyards that have been vandalied is commone throughout the world and is NOT a symbol of ethnic violence anywhere else.
Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)

So you blame the serbs for the ruined cememetery?Must be albanian logic, I guess serbs put a bomb on the Arandjelovic family grave aswell?I guess serbs put the sveta bogorodica church on fire too?You are nothing but barbarians.

Let those savages destroy those monuments,no problem,but film it and show it to the whole world!
These idiots don`t realize that they will hurt themselves BIG TIME!
Now we can be sure that all Serb autonomy ass called in the resolution grants will be introduced during the "negotiations"...

Those Albanian Talibans should be invented if they didnt exist!

PS:The Albanian Presevo memorial will be now destroyed and recycled,no more negptiating with those vandals,after they did what they did yesterday!

What kind of animals desecrate graves? I could never imagine touching a single Albanian grave. Only the most unhumane disrespect the dead.

This is funny, Serbs trying to preach about humanity.
Clean up your conscience before you try to advice the others.
(Gjergj Fishta, 22 January 2013 17:00)

This is even more funny, being given a lesson in ethics and humanity by an Albanian.

I honestly thought the Albanians would not be that stupid to desecrate graveyards. What an act of idiocy; these pictures have been seen as far as Asia and what a PR disaster for Thaci.
What next? The EU will pay to fix all damaged headstones and the Albanians look like savages.
Good work lads the Serbs could not have planned this better – keep up the good work. Try a Church next time.

Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)
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Shame on you.
The reason the cemetery is not looked after is because Serbs are too frightened to go there and keep it neat.
Your lot attacks them at will without any fear of being prosecuted.

So if a grave is not neat and tidy that's your green light to destroy it? Only an Albanian would use this logic.

"The destruction and desecration of Serb cemeteries and memorial sites was also condemned by the EU mission, EULEX, KFOR, and UNMIK."

What does all the 'condemning' helps in the lawless state of Kosovo where criminals, terrorists and vandals found a safe home and feel free to do whatever they like?

"Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept."
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)

What a joke. Maybe have a second thought? Could it be that the family members, relatives and friends were killed or expelled from their homes by the KLA 'freedom fighters'? You know well what happens when they once in a year on a holiday dare to come and visit their loved ones? The buses and cars are stoned by Albanian criminals. And I won't mention what happens to those few expelled Serbs who dare to return to their former home (many of them stolen or illegally usurped by criminal Albanians in the meanwhile)

"Let those savages destroy those monuments,no problem,but film it and show it to the whole world! "
(CG, 22 January 2013 12:32)

I think, too, that this is the right method to show the world what this 'independent Kosovo' is like and based on.

Even from reading the comments here, from Albos, thiese pathetic actions do not surprise me. These people are brought up to be hateful and destructive. Nothing new learned here. But please, continue further educating the world. They'd love to learn more about you.

"We Kosovars should speak up and let the entire world know that these vandals do not have the support of the Albanian population in Kosovo. However with great sadness I admit that Kosovo has become a place where a very few dominate everything. I hope and pray for better days for our people as live is becoming harder and harder with each passing day.

Great day everyone!"
(Xhafer, 22 January 2013 14:50)

A voice of reason, and a realistic view of the situation in Kosovo. It makes me feel better to read such an opinion. I really hope that more and more people in Kosovo will share this view and finally manage to elect some politicians who have integrity and who care for their country as a whole instead of extremists or corrupt thugs who only care for their family members and clan mates and who implicitly want to keep the unstable situation because their mafia clans benefit from it

the problem my serb friends is that the whole world does not see. I'm living in America and not seen one word of this. American media doesn't care about you. Very sad but Albanian Mafia money runs u.s. media.

The guys who did this are hate-filled thugs and nothing more. Disgraceful.

"Let those savages destroy those monuments,no problem,but film it and show it to the whole world! "
(CG, 22 January 2013 12:32)

The "world" sees that both sides remove each other once what is important. Nobody wins. There are only losers on all sides.

@ give it up

As a matter of fact I am a German living in Germany but frequently residing in the Balkans. Interested in the Balkans, after serving army in Prizren.

I am appalled that people that endured under Milosevic and his criminal policies are able to reverse the situation and adopt a similar behavior against their Serbian neighbors.
Cultural genocide by definition supposes the extermination of every material proof that witnesses the existence of a people in a given territory. Don't tell me that the intention of destroying Serbian cemeteries is to simply gather stones for building fences.

I'm pretty sure the Albanian mutants pulling a mini 2004 these last few days have no concept of "civilization."

There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)

Then explain to me why all the KLA memorials that sprout up along the road from Mitrovica to Pristina are constantly littered with garbage, plastic bags flying in the wind, and random car parts that fell off? Oh wait, let me guess: these Serbian graves weren't really desecrated as general caretaking fell into the hands of local Albanians who wanted to spiff them up just as nicely as the memorials to their "freedom fighters"?

This is funny, Serbs trying to preach about humanity.
To have the right to preach about humanity you need to be humane.
You have lost that right with your actions and atrocities you did throughout the Balkans.
Clean up your conscience before you try to advice the others.

I think that Serbian goberment must ask the neighbouring countries to be forgiven for the crimes commited in the 90's..., but when I see so many times, things like these I understand why the serbian radical nationalism it's still so strong... If being pro-western means being anti serbian, then the few parties in the country who support the western policies will be completely unable to win any elections in Serbia.

The people who desecrate tombs of people who cannot defend themselves must be arrested. These acts must stop. Otherwise the nationalism will be growing constantly

So if a grave is not neat and tidy that's your green light to destroy it? Only an Albanian would use this logic.
(Peggy, 22 January 2013 13:42)
Did not say that but of course you would think it. But I dare you to find 10 cemeteries thoughout the world that have been abandoned and grown over like this one that has not been vandalized.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 15:00)
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You did, indirectly.
Shame on Serbs for not looking after those cemeteries? Shame on your people for not allowing them to by attacking any Serb who dares to come back.

So what is more shameful, not looking after the grave or going in there and blowing it up?
Don't use that excuse. Are all Serbian cemeteries there in bad condition and need to be destroyed? How many Albanian cemeteries in Serbia which have been destroyed?
You people are savages and everyone can see it. There is no excuses for what you are doing.
Don't bring that you killed us during the war cr@p either. Our people got killed too but we do not keep attacking you and destroying your graves. It's been a long time since the war too. Are you going to use that excuse forever?
You cannot excuse the inexcusable. You can justify it to yourselves but everyone else sees this as a savage move.

This is cultural genocide committed in Kosovo. This by very far away from any European value. As a German, I am disgusted by such acts of barbarism.
(Sachse, 22 January 2013 13:03)
Give it up, you are disgusted as a Serb living in Germany. I like that phrase cultural genocide, of course there is no such thing but Serbs are known for their melodramatics such as Humanitarian Crisis when illegal phone lines were cut. For a group of people who swear the killing of a few thousand people in no way amounts to genocide, you are quick to use it anytime something anti Serb happens.

for the thought provoker, i dare you to find 10 albanian cemetaries in serbia that have been descrated as this single one of many serbian cemetaries in kosovo have.
your twisted blame-the-victim-logic is ass-tounding.
its like suggesting that because kosovo's albanian population has kept that region in abject poverty it would be appropriate to destroy them all so as to bring in energized working minded people to beautify the region.
we both can agree that that is not a proper view, or argument. can you see that your thought was not fully developed?

It is such a shame to attack cemeteries. There is no reason in a world to attack cemeteries. There are thousands of other methods to express ones displeasure. Those that are doing the vandalism are just adding fuel to the fire and certainly are not doing any favors to the Albanian cause. We Kosovars should speak up and let the entire world know that these vandals do not have the support of the Albanian population in Kosovo. However with great sadness I admit that Kosovo has become a place where a very few dominate everything. I hope and pray for better days for our people as live is becoming harder and harder with each passing day.

Great day everyone!

Anyway I know the difficulty that you have to find a date for the coming of Albanians at Balkan. This is difficult even for us because this date is before Greeks comes to Balkan and began to write the events. Anyway you Slavs can be happy because your date is documented very well. This are the advantages of newcomers in Balkan:)
(dori tirana, 23 January 2013 12:59)

Dori

The Albanians are not only older than the Greeks but also of the dinosaurs and I wonder if you could help solve the riddle of the manner they disappeared.

@Ivica,
You started the domino effect. Now live with it.

I don't know why every serb is blaming the albanians for desecrating their cemeteries, when we DON'T KNOW who the perpetrator was. It was most probably done by the serbs, so that everyone would blaim it on the albanians.

And also, Dacic did not remove the Albanian monument in a peaceful manner! Blocking roads and sending hundreds of policemen from the specialforces does not sound very peacefull to me...

(Ari Gold

These acts are indeed abhorrent I agree. of course, they are nowhere near as bad as Srebrenica (as well as the genocide denials that follow it) and the systematic expulsion of a million people, but that doesn't get away from the fact that they are abhorrent

@ the commenter above- Do mass graves count? The Batjanica mass grave site geld the bodies of Albanians fro month old to elders in their 90's. what about the Danube river.
(J, 22 January 2013 19:49)

Oh you still believe that fairy tale? If that were the case, there's be forensic experts from all over Europe digging up the ground and a far more vocal effort by Albanian authorities in reclaiming the remains of their own. Instead no one seems to be doing anything because there's nothing left to dig up that wasn't unearthed immediately after 2000 and Batajnica remains a sleepy suburb of Zemun. But it's nice you try to divert attention away from what you people do now with a story of what you think was allegedly done by someone else more than 10 years ago.

I am not actually looking for an answer as you would never believe that a Serb would misrepresent the facts to elicit a desired response.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 20:16)
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Don't you get it? Whichever situation happens to be and whichever reason this cemetery was not cared for it does not give anyone the green light to destroy it? Why can't you get something as simple as that?
Also, you say it's the work of a minority and majority Albanians don't feel this way.
Rubbish, rubbish and more rubbish. Why then hasn't your wonderful KPS found who is doing this and brought them to court? Why doesn't one, just one person dob anyone in? Surely someone knows about this and doesn't agree and wants to do the right thing?
The majority is supporting this because nobody says a word. Nobody condemns it and everyone seems to be hiding the culprits.

That's why your argument doesn't make any sense.

Again, no matter what the reason for the state cemetery is in it is simply ghoulish and evil to destroy it.

Get it now?
BTW, how do you expect us to react when this goes on and on and on? Do you expect us to like you?

The problem is the EU mission, EULEX, KFOR, and UNMIK don`t do anything about it.

You may break and desecrate cemeteries/churches/monasteries etc But the spirit and feeling you will never touch!

Our holy land will shine once again!
And at that time these irreligious satanists will not live anymore in our holy land Kosovo!

In its effort to create new world order, this is the direct product of NATO creation of NEWPORN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvMo6zYzUQY) , I suppose NEWBORN, democracy. I wonder if the goal of the project of new world order is actually creating disorder.

Enver Hoxa's albanian was a paradise compared to Tito's SFRY! The deluded albanian crowd really are out in force. Your actions only reinforce perceptions throughout the rest of Europe that you are primitives.

"for the thought provoker, i dare you to find 10 albanian cemetaries in serbia that have been descrated as this single one of many serbian cemetaries in kosovo have. "

@ the commenter above- Do mass graves count? The Batjanica mass grave site geld the bodies of Albanians fro month old to elders in their 90's. what about the Danube river. This is where you simply threw the trucks containing those you killed in Kosova. Does that count as a desacration of graveyards. Hold on, you did not even have the humanity to burry them as human beings and now you're lecturing about maintenance of graveyards? It takes months of cutting edge science to identify our dead since you tossed them as if they were nothing. Cats are burrows with more honor. You throw bodies in the Danube and you give us lectures about headstones? Do you really want to go through this?
Where is the Serb outcry towards these people? These people were not even buried. Instead they were killed and hidden. That's right, hidden. Because at that point they were no longer considered people by the Serbs. At that point Serbs considered them evidence. Evidence that needed to be destroyed. Do you really want to give lectures about tombstones? Where is you outcry for these people who were not even afforded one. Do you really want to compare how we treat the dead?

It's sad how things go on in former Yugo when is all this tit for tat going to end. When we have killed each other off some future archaeologist will wonder what kind of mad murderous insanity possess the people their. Was it worth it all these never ending hate cycles of revenge. What are we leaving future generations misery destruction death a great legacy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQM .

It's amazing how some people in the Balkans think they're inoccent and twist EVERY IDEA around to blame one ethnic group (the Serbs). Those that do this show a lack of intelligence and aren't even embarrassed about it ! I would be.

Kosovo police have evidence that serbs did this crime and then blame albanians. This is how serbs did in the 80's, make up stories, blame albanians.
(Bridge, 22 January 2013 20:33)

Do you have evidence of this or are you making crap up on the spot? Albanian excuses are getting more pathetic everyday.

I'm Albanian from Tirana and my family has not experienced a century of Serbian state repression as have tried Kalbanian. Imagining if i had the experience of them, do not think I would have made such a move. I urge my fellow KAlbanians, that civilized reactions are the best answer to the primitive behavior of Serbs. Symbols and our heroes cannot be removed if they are in our hearts and if you realize the dreams of the heroes of Presevo and all Albanian territories. At the end this is the meaning of an hero, he live and is useful for his country in eternity. The Presevo heroes in this case give another service to their country 12 year after their death. The KAlbanian that damage the Kserb graves don’t serve Albanian cause, but naively to the Serbian chauvinism.

J, 22 January 2013 19:49)
Never really thought about it until you said it. It is pathetic that the very people that denied thousands a proper burial and even dug them up from one spot to move them to central Serbia to hide them from international authorities trying to take the moral high road on some tombstones being overturned. At least these families were allowed to give their loved ones a proper burial.
And some have had the nerve to call Albanians barbarians.

Kosovo police have evidence that serbs did this crime and then blame albanians. This is how serbs did in the 80's, make up stories, blame albanians.
(Bridge, 22 January 2013 20:33)
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This one is a real gem.
So when can we expect these Serbs to be arrested? The evidence is there so what are they waiting for?

should have taken a narrower picture as it shows the neglect this cemetary has received from the very people that are appalled by its desecretion. Abandoned and neglected graveyards that have been vandalied is commone throughout the world and is NOT a symbol of ethnic violence anywhere else.
Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.

Despicable.

These people have to be taken to jail.

"The Presevo heroes in this case give another service to their country 12 year after their death."
@(dori tirana, 22 January 2013 15:37)
Did Arnaut build any monument for #1 Albo hero:General George Maniakes?
Be realistic & objective with answer please.

When you start seeing an Albanian life equal to that of a Serb then we can have normal discussions.
(J, 23 January 2013 01:56)

Well then, start acting like civilized human beings. Do something other than have 10 kids and hate everyone and everything around you. Get a job and be productive instead of expecting someone else to give you another hand out and then threaten to riot when you don't get your way. Try reading books instead of rewriting them. Try acting like the people you think you are instead of the angry mob the rest see you as. Realize the world neither revolves around you nor owes you anything special because you think you've been victimized for centuries. Learn to live with others and tolerate others instead of harassing them at every possible moment based on whatever stupid grudge you carry of your own making. Once you fix your own problems, we'll be waiting for you at the table to talk.

(dori tirana, 23 January 2013 21:11)

No Dori.Today's Greeks landed from a spaceship 190 years ago.The same spaceship took away all the ancient Greeks and their descendants and that is how they disappeared.

Cheap Albanian propaganda -almost identical applied by Gruevski and Fyrom.Greeks are probably the only modern nation in the Balkans that can show a historical connection through the ancient Greek-Roman and Byzantine periods unlike the Albanians that cannot provide any proof of connection with Illyrians or any other ancient entity.Having said this,wake up and smell the coffee.You're Albanians with a Turkish Islamist connection originating from Caucasus.This is a fact not a fiction.The only common element between Greeks and Albanians are the borders,nothing else.

ttp://wschulze.userweb.mwn.de/Udigen1.htm

Kosovo police have evidence that serbs did this crime and then blame albanians. This is how serbs did in the 80's, make up stories, blame albanians.

Can someone explain to me, how come Serbian graves were desecrated in peace time (if one can consider that time as such) post 1981, and now but not during the War itself?

My guess is that during the Kosovo War, the Serbian UDB was busier than during the eighties and now persecuting Albanians, and didn't have time to stage such acts on orders of their masters to give a hand the Serbian Propaganda.

Apparently clear evidence has emerged that some crimes against Serbs and Serbian culture heritage including demolishing of graves stones have been committed by Serbs themselves.

No Albanian unless soled as foreign agents or manipulated would vandalize Serbian graves as that would only serve Serbian propaganda!

All what is happening in Presevo Valley and Kosovo is staged, Serbia is trying to create conditions for territory exchange as Dacic expressed himself when commenting demonstrations and Flags used in Presevo yesterday. I suggest go and read it again and you will see what I am right.

Don't bring that you killed us during the war cr@p either.
(Peggy, 22 January 2013 21:02)
This one sentence negates anything you could ever say about Albanians, none could measure to you. One poster summed it up best, those who advocated the mass graves of the 90's taking the moral highground over some turned over tombstones. The 2 are not even in the same league to be using words like barbarians.

I really don't understand this conversation. Do we fight about dead people? Don't they deserve to rest in peace, dear friends?

"He is one of them( may be), that is not famous for today Albanians. So no need for any monument."
Here is Truth: Any Maniakes monument will destroy ilirian albo mithology. It's to bad to put own history and leader under own foot and rise new without leader like today in Presevo, for shure you will go again under your own foot, like before.

Albanians are paid the Greek army to against the Romans from Sicily.
In mid 11 century, the Romans turned military leader George Maniakes to invade Greece.
This savage nations become more aggressive when the Turks converting them to the Islam.
Hitler opened the door in the great albo today speak publicly about the big albo.
Cemetery demolition or historic church in the Balkans the Europe should not tolerate that, as of today, no matter how rude people are. No war.. Picture say: This is our future neighbor.

So if a grave is not neat and tidy that's your green light to destroy it? Only an Albanian would use this logic.
(Peggy, 22 January 2013 13:42)
Did not say that but of course you would think it. But I dare you to find 10 cemeteries thoughout the world that have been abandoned and grown over like this one that has not been vandalized.

Love ya back, Albanians.

just a dare, 22 January 2013 17:12)
I do not claim that the actions over the last 2 days are not ethnically motivated. But the media and posters on here are trying to portray this as some huge movement by ALL Albanians and it is the work of a few in isolated places. The ironic thing is it is done by people who have the same attitude toward Serbs as you and others here have about Albanians. The thing is you do not understand how they can think that about you, well I got news for you they do not understand your thoughts about them either.
But I stand behind my comment that if you visit any cemetery that appears abandoned and neglected you will also find traces of vandalism. Now the question of the day, you look at the picture and you can tell this is not a cemetery that is visited often or cared for, was the vandalism done in the last 2 days or last year or ? Now the next question as this is not a cemetery that is visited often was it family that discovered it or was it someone with a camera and an objective? Or was this a picture actually taken in the last 48 hours?
I am not actually looking for an answer as you would never believe that a Serb would misrepresent the facts to elicit a desired response.

Oh you still believe that fairy tale? ...But it's nice you try to divert attention away from what you people do now with a story of what you think was allegedly done by someone else more than 10 years ago.
(Q, 22 January 2013 20:36)

I don't need to convince you. I have read the Batjanica mass grave news right here on B92. Bodies have already been returned from mass graves inside Serbia. Thousands are still missing. Only Serbia knows what they did with them. They don't want to tell.
Why 10 years ago you were not the same Serb people you are today? Did a spaceship come and replace all those Serbs with other brand spanking new Serbs? So you can kill today and not be held responsible 10 years from now? Nice kind of thinking you got. As Serbs you cannot just show up and act as if you respect the dead. Not only you killed these people but you did the outmost possible to get rid of the bodies so that they could never be found. So spare us the lectures. I have yet to hear one Serb express disgust towards the mass graves of those killed in your name, yet you feel you have the moral high ground to lecture others. When you start seeing an Albanian life equal to that of a Serb then we can have normal discussions. You see Albanians in these posts expressing sorrow. Still haven't seen a Serb do the same. As if throwing people in mass graves is not an atrocious act of terrorism? But who cares; they were Albanian right?

Did Arnaut build any monument for #1 Albo hero:General George Maniakes?
Be realistic & objective with answer please.
(Bugar from Skoplje, 23 January 2013 08:27)
Dear from your posts you don’t merit any response, but if you prefer let me be sincere with you. First I think to change your nickname. If you call us Arnaut I suggest the nickname “Turk from Skopje” for you.
Second George Manikaes is not known in Albania. I know a little for him. He was a general of Byzantine Army ( from some sources of Albanian origin). Till here the story sounds normal, because as we know the hierarchy of Roman, Byzantine, Ottoman Empire is full with Albanians. He is one of them( may be), that is not famous for today Albanians. So no need for any monument.
Funny is story that I read here that Albanians comes to Balkan from Sicily leaded from George Maniakes. This the first time that an army go to war together woman and children(from Sicily to Albania) loose the war but occupy the land. Funny!
Anyway I know the difficulty that you have to find a date for the coming of Albanians at Balkan. This is difficult even for us because this date is before Greeks comes to Balkan and began to write the events. Anyway you Slavs can be happy because your date is documented very well. This are the advantages of newcomers in Balkan:)

"Well then, start acting like civilized human beings. Do something other than have 10 kids and hate everyone and everything around you. "
-- I'm already on my 14 kid and I hate Dr.Pepper

"Get a job and be productive instead of expecting someone else to give you another hand out and then threaten to riot when you don't get your way. "

--My genes do not allow me to work hard like a Serb. You guys are blessed people, you work so hard and are giving. We are subhuman. Your lives are worth so much more.

"Try reading books instead of rewriting them. "

I can't neither read or write. You on the other hand are born polyglots.

"Try acting like the people you think you are instead of the angry mob the rest see you as. "

--We cannot be the calm blessed creatures that the world sees you as. Serbs told me, and it must be true since it came from the Serbs, that I and my lot are animals. I don't know any better. You guys told me that.

"Realize the world neither revolves around you nor owes you anything special because you think you've been victimized for centuries. "

--Indeed it doesn't. But it does owe Serbs a lot. Remember how you lost a battle 500 years ago.

"Learn to live with others and tolerate others instead of harassing them at every possible moment based on whatever stupid grudge you carry of your own making. Once you fix your own problems, we'll be waiting for you at the table to talk.
(Q, 23 January 2013 17:08)"
Thank you for waiting o superior perfect beings.

(Bob S)

I actually think the opposite, its funny how in the Balkans twists everything to blame everybody else by themselves, the Serbs

Where is the Serb outcry towards these people? These people were not even buried. Instead they were killed and hidden. That's right, hidden. Because at that point they were no longer considered people by the Serbs. At that point Serbs considered them evidence. Evidence that needed to be destroyed. Do you really want to give lectures about tombstones? Where is you outcry for these people who were not even afforded one. Do you really want to compare how we treat the dead?
(J,

These Serbs remind me of people is some Arab countries who will blame us to death when something bad happens to them but will celevrate when something bad happens in the WEst.

Then explain to me why all the KLA memorials that sprout up along the road from Mitrovica to Pristina are constantly littered with garbage, plastic bags flying in the wind, and random car parts that fell off? Oh wait, let me guess: these Serbian graves weren't really desecrated as general caretaking fell into the hands of local Albanians who wanted to spiff them up just as nicely as the memorials to their "freedom fighters"?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 22 January 2013 16:41)

If you drive car you will see that. But if you use Bus or Train they are full with the chiken for flea market.

"No Albanian unless soled as foreign agents or manipulated would vandalize Serbian graves as that would only serve Serbian propaganda! "
(Dr Who/UK, 22 January 2013 21:00)

A smart person who thinks rationally would consider that, but no bunch of uneducated Albanian war criminals and thugs inspired by hate propaganda courtesy of Pristina media.

There's no footage of who was vandalizing the graves now, but the world saw the looting ans destruction of churches and houses by an Albanian mob in 2004. Of course, the 2004 events were only Serb propaganda.

@(Bugar from Skoplje, 23 January 2013 08:27)

Thanks for realistic comments eliminating ilirian Balkan albo mitology.


"Second George Manikaes is not known in Albania. I know a little for him. He was a general of Byzantine Army ( from some sources of Albanian origin). Till here the story sounds normal, because as we know the This the first time that an army go to war together woman and children(from Sicily to Albania) loose the war but occupy the land. Funny!"
@(dori tirana, 23 January 2013 12:59)

Roman use clever trick with powerful Maniakes, in order to reduce his power, Roman spleet albo population in the Sicily by 50%. Winner all the time, hungry for more power, well paid, Maniakes did not count on disaster with Greaks. He left his powerless people to the princ Vojislav in the citi Durrer.

Dori

The Albanians are not only older than the Greeks but also of the dinosaurs and I wonder if you could help solve the riddle of the manner they disappeared.
(Leonidas, 23 January 2013 15:53)
Leonidas I can’t help you for dinosaurs, but I can help you to solve how the Hellenic people disappear and how the hybrid race of Greek of today emerged, if you are interested. I personally don’t hate that hybrid, because I can’t hate my blood (Arvanitas one) that is important component of hybrid Greek of today. Have a nice time my brother (at least partially).

another thread turned into the origin of Albanians. you know what, I don't care where Albanians come from. it could be proven to me beyond any reasonable doubt that we come from South Africa, and my political position on Kosova would not change. for what its worth though Leonidas, the Albanian language is a classified Indo-European one, but in its own branch. This means its not Slavic, Latin, Greek or Turkic (hence it can't be Asian). if you think linguists are wrong, do the following, study Albanian and publish your own scholarly work and show where they are wrong. its really very easy. i will also say this, i have never studied Arvanite, i have heard it and have zero trouble understanding it. so we either took the language from them or they from us. there is also a distinct ethnic group in Italy called Arberesh, who's language I understand with ease.
as for links between greeks and albanians, only the biggest of all dimwits would suggest that none exist. i venture many people in Northern Greece and Southern Albania would have both and Albanian heritage. i would also argue that 1/10000 people in the Balkans would have Turkish blood in them. you do not get ruled by the Ottoman scimitar for 500 years and not have it leave an imprint. only the most extreme and frankly racist person would want to suggest that a particular area is pure

Well then, start acting like civilized human beings. Do something other than have 10 kids and hate everyone and everything around you. Get a job and be productive instead of expecting someone else to give you another hand out and then threaten to riot when you don't get your way. Try reading books instead of rewriting them. Try acting like the people you think you are instead of the angry mob the rest see you as. Realize the world neither revolves around you nor owes you anything special because you think you've been victimized for centuries. Learn to live with others and tolerate others instead of harassing them at every possible moment based on whatever stupid grudge you carry of your own making. Once you fix your own problems, we'll be waiting for you at the table to talk.
(Q, 23 January 2013 17:08)
I am confused, I thought you were responding to Albanians but your response hits the nail on the head for Serbs, except the 10 kids and that really does not fit either. Albanians have a higher birth rate but does not approach 10 by any means.
The whole 3 years I was in Kosovo met many Albanian families and several with 4-5 kids, many with less, and 1 with 10 children who were all grown.

should have taken a narrower picture as it shows the neglect this cemetary has received from the very people that are appalled by its desecretion. Abandoned and neglected graveyards that have been vandalied is commone throughout the world and is NOT a symbol of ethnic violence anywhere else.
Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.

@Ivica,
You started the domino effect. Now live with it.

I don't know why every serb is blaming the albanians for desecrating their cemeteries, when we DON'T KNOW who the perpetrator was. It was most probably done by the serbs, so that everyone would blaim it on the albanians.

And also, Dacic did not remove the Albanian monument in a peaceful manner! Blocking roads and sending hundreds of policemen from the specialforces does not sound very peacefull to me...

(Ari Gold

These acts are indeed abhorrent I agree. of course, they are nowhere near as bad as Srebrenica (as well as the genocide denials that follow it) and the systematic expulsion of a million people, but that doesn't get away from the fact that they are abhorrent

This is funny, Serbs trying to preach about humanity.
To have the right to preach about humanity you need to be humane.
You have lost that right with your actions and atrocities you did throughout the Balkans.
Clean up your conscience before you try to advice the others.

I'm Albanian from Tirana and my family has not experienced a century of Serbian state repression as have tried Kalbanian. Imagining if i had the experience of them, do not think I would have made such a move. I urge my fellow KAlbanians, that civilized reactions are the best answer to the primitive behavior of Serbs. Symbols and our heroes cannot be removed if they are in our hearts and if you realize the dreams of the heroes of Presevo and all Albanian territories. At the end this is the meaning of an hero, he live and is useful for his country in eternity. The Presevo heroes in this case give another service to their country 12 year after their death. The KAlbanian that damage the Kserb graves don’t serve Albanian cause, but naively to the Serbian chauvinism.

This is cultural genocide committed in Kosovo. This by very far away from any European value. As a German, I am disgusted by such acts of barbarism.
(Sachse, 22 January 2013 13:03)
Give it up, you are disgusted as a Serb living in Germany. I like that phrase cultural genocide, of course there is no such thing but Serbs are known for their melodramatics such as Humanitarian Crisis when illegal phone lines were cut. For a group of people who swear the killing of a few thousand people in no way amounts to genocide, you are quick to use it anytime something anti Serb happens.

Europe wake up!!!
Protect the Serbs.

Kosovo police have evidence that serbs did this crime and then blame albanians. This is how serbs did in the 80's, make up stories, blame albanians.

Where is the Serb outcry towards these people? These people were not even buried. Instead they were killed and hidden. That's right, hidden. Because at that point they were no longer considered people by the Serbs. At that point Serbs considered them evidence. Evidence that needed to be destroyed. Do you really want to give lectures about tombstones? Where is you outcry for these people who were not even afforded one. Do you really want to compare how we treat the dead?
(J,

These Serbs remind me of people is some Arab countries who will blame us to death when something bad happens to them but will celevrate when something bad happens in the WEst.

You started the domino effect. Now live with it.
(Kosova-USA, 22 January 2013 11:07)

Wrong again, you started it by putting up a monument over terrorists.

(Bob S)

I actually think the opposite, its funny how in the Balkans twists everything to blame everybody else by themselves, the Serbs

Can someone explain to me, how come Serbian graves were desecrated in peace time (if one can consider that time as such) post 1981, and now but not during the War itself?

My guess is that during the Kosovo War, the Serbian UDB was busier than during the eighties and now persecuting Albanians, and didn't have time to stage such acts on orders of their masters to give a hand the Serbian Propaganda.

Apparently clear evidence has emerged that some crimes against Serbs and Serbian culture heritage including demolishing of graves stones have been committed by Serbs themselves.

No Albanian unless soled as foreign agents or manipulated would vandalize Serbian graves as that would only serve Serbian propaganda!

All what is happening in Presevo Valley and Kosovo is staged, Serbia is trying to create conditions for territory exchange as Dacic expressed himself when commenting demonstrations and Flags used in Presevo yesterday. I suggest go and read it again and you will see what I am right.

This is funny, Serbs trying to preach about humanity.
Clean up your conscience before you try to advice the others.
(Gjergj Fishta, 22 January 2013 17:00)

This is even more funny, being given a lesson in ethics and humanity by an Albanian.

So if a grave is not neat and tidy that's your green light to destroy it? Only an Albanian would use this logic.
(Peggy, 22 January 2013 13:42)
Did not say that but of course you would think it. But I dare you to find 10 cemeteries thoughout the world that have been abandoned and grown over like this one that has not been vandalized.

just a dare, 22 January 2013 17:12)
I do not claim that the actions over the last 2 days are not ethnically motivated. But the media and posters on here are trying to portray this as some huge movement by ALL Albanians and it is the work of a few in isolated places. The ironic thing is it is done by people who have the same attitude toward Serbs as you and others here have about Albanians. The thing is you do not understand how they can think that about you, well I got news for you they do not understand your thoughts about them either.
But I stand behind my comment that if you visit any cemetery that appears abandoned and neglected you will also find traces of vandalism. Now the question of the day, you look at the picture and you can tell this is not a cemetery that is visited often or cared for, was the vandalism done in the last 2 days or last year or ? Now the next question as this is not a cemetery that is visited often was it family that discovered it or was it someone with a camera and an objective? Or was this a picture actually taken in the last 48 hours?
I am not actually looking for an answer as you would never believe that a Serb would misrepresent the facts to elicit a desired response.

I honestly thought the Albanians would not be that stupid to desecrate graveyards. What an act of idiocy; these pictures have been seen as far as Asia and what a PR disaster for Thaci.
What next? The EU will pay to fix all damaged headstones and the Albanians look like savages.
Good work lads the Serbs could not have planned this better – keep up the good work. Try a Church next time.

I think that Serbian goberment must ask the neighbouring countries to be forgiven for the crimes commited in the 90's..., but when I see so many times, things like these I understand why the serbian radical nationalism it's still so strong... If being pro-western means being anti serbian, then the few parties in the country who support the western policies will be completely unable to win any elections in Serbia.

The people who desecrate tombs of people who cannot defend themselves must be arrested. These acts must stop. Otherwise the nationalism will be growing constantly

This is cultural genocide committed in Kosovo. This by very far away from any European value. As a German, I am disgusted by such acts of barbarism.

@Ivica,
You started the domino effect. Now live with it.
(Kosova-USA, 22 January 2013 11:07)

Good job, keep proving that you and your people are not fit for the civilized world. Keep it up and not even Ian will be able to defend you anymore.

And when you commit these disgusting acts, he will conveniently stay away from B92 on those days only to reappear.

It's amazing how some people in the Balkans think they're inoccent and twist EVERY IDEA around to blame one ethnic group (the Serbs). Those that do this show a lack of intelligence and aren't even embarrassed about it ! I would be.

"for the thought provoker, i dare you to find 10 albanian cemetaries in serbia that have been descrated as this single one of many serbian cemetaries in kosovo have. "

@ the commenter above- Do mass graves count? The Batjanica mass grave site geld the bodies of Albanians fro month old to elders in their 90's. what about the Danube river. This is where you simply threw the trucks containing those you killed in Kosova. Does that count as a desacration of graveyards. Hold on, you did not even have the humanity to burry them as human beings and now you're lecturing about maintenance of graveyards? It takes months of cutting edge science to identify our dead since you tossed them as if they were nothing. Cats are burrows with more honor. You throw bodies in the Danube and you give us lectures about headstones? Do you really want to go through this?
Where is the Serb outcry towards these people? These people were not even buried. Instead they were killed and hidden. That's right, hidden. Because at that point they were no longer considered people by the Serbs. At that point Serbs considered them evidence. Evidence that needed to be destroyed. Do you really want to give lectures about tombstones? Where is you outcry for these people who were not even afforded one. Do you really want to compare how we treat the dead?

J, 22 January 2013 19:49)
Never really thought about it until you said it. It is pathetic that the very people that denied thousands a proper burial and even dug them up from one spot to move them to central Serbia to hide them from international authorities trying to take the moral high road on some tombstones being overturned. At least these families were allowed to give their loved ones a proper burial.
And some have had the nerve to call Albanians barbarians.

On the contrary.Desecrating cemeteries is a national Albanian sport encouraged by their Western bosses.

Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)
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Shame on you.
The reason the cemetery is not looked after is because Serbs are too frightened to go there and keep it neat.
Your lot attacks them at will without any fear of being prosecuted.

So if a grave is not neat and tidy that's your green light to destroy it? Only an Albanian would use this logic.

Animals.

"Let those savages destroy those monuments,no problem,but film it and show it to the whole world! "
(CG, 22 January 2013 12:32)

I think, too, that this is the right method to show the world what this 'independent Kosovo' is like and based on.

Did Arnaut build any monument for #1 Albo hero:General George Maniakes?
Be realistic & objective with answer please.
(Bugar from Skoplje, 23 January 2013 08:27)
Dear from your posts you don’t merit any response, but if you prefer let me be sincere with you. First I think to change your nickname. If you call us Arnaut I suggest the nickname “Turk from Skopje” for you.
Second George Manikaes is not known in Albania. I know a little for him. He was a general of Byzantine Army ( from some sources of Albanian origin). Till here the story sounds normal, because as we know the hierarchy of Roman, Byzantine, Ottoman Empire is full with Albanians. He is one of them( may be), that is not famous for today Albanians. So no need for any monument.
Funny is story that I read here that Albanians comes to Balkan from Sicily leaded from George Maniakes. This the first time that an army go to war together woman and children(from Sicily to Albania) loose the war but occupy the land. Funny!
Anyway I know the difficulty that you have to find a date for the coming of Albanians at Balkan. This is difficult even for us because this date is before Greeks comes to Balkan and began to write the events. Anyway you Slavs can be happy because your date is documented very well. This are the advantages of newcomers in Balkan:)

Albanians are paid the Greek army to against the Romans from Sicily.
In mid 11 century, the Romans turned military leader George Maniakes to invade Greece.
This savage nations become more aggressive when the Turks converting them to the Islam.
Hitler opened the door in the great albo today speak publicly about the big albo.
Cemetery demolition or historic church in the Balkans the Europe should not tolerate that, as of today, no matter how rude people are. No war.. Picture say: This is our future neighbor.

@ give it up

As a matter of fact I am a German living in Germany but frequently residing in the Balkans. Interested in the Balkans, after serving army in Prizren.

I am appalled that people that endured under Milosevic and his criminal policies are able to reverse the situation and adopt a similar behavior against their Serbian neighbors.
Cultural genocide by definition supposes the extermination of every material proof that witnesses the existence of a people in a given territory. Don't tell me that the intention of destroying Serbian cemeteries is to simply gather stones for building fences.

Come on. We live in the 21st sentury and the Albanians are behaving like we were still in the 15th.
Somebody should prevent it from happening, protect the Serbs and their cemeteries as well as historical monuments.

should have taken a narrower picture as it shows the neglect this cemetary has received from the very people that are appalled by its desecretion. Abandoned and neglected graveyards that have been vandalied is commone throughout the world and is NOT a symbol of ethnic violence anywhere else.
Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)

So you blame the serbs for the ruined cememetery?Must be albanian logic, I guess serbs put a bomb on the Arandjelovic family grave aswell?I guess serbs put the sveta bogorodica church on fire too?You are nothing but barbarians.

don´t worry, we will erect them again, as soon as KiM is liberated again.

...as for these cowardly acts: I think the Albanians cannot but do this! it is their way of showing how miserable and weak they actually are.

Let those savages destroy those monuments,no problem,but film it and show it to the whole world!
These idiots don`t realize that they will hurt themselves BIG TIME!
Now we can be sure that all Serb autonomy ass called in the resolution grants will be introduced during the "negotiations"...

Those Albanian Talibans should be invented if they didnt exist!

PS:The Albanian Presevo memorial will be now destroyed and recycled,no more negptiating with those vandals,after they did what they did yesterday!

What kind of animals desecrate graves? I could never imagine touching a single Albanian grave. Only the most unhumane disrespect the dead.

"Shame should be on the Serbs whose families are there. The purpose of the a cemetary is to honor the dead. There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept."
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)

What a joke. Maybe have a second thought? Could it be that the family members, relatives and friends were killed or expelled from their homes by the KLA 'freedom fighters'? You know well what happens when they once in a year on a holiday dare to come and visit their loved ones? The buses and cars are stoned by Albanian criminals. And I won't mention what happens to those few expelled Serbs who dare to return to their former home (many of them stolen or illegally usurped by criminal Albanians in the meanwhile)

I'm pretty sure the Albanian mutants pulling a mini 2004 these last few days have no concept of "civilization."

There is not much honor in a cemetary that is overgrown and unkept.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 10:54)

Then explain to me why all the KLA memorials that sprout up along the road from Mitrovica to Pristina are constantly littered with garbage, plastic bags flying in the wind, and random car parts that fell off? Oh wait, let me guess: these Serbian graves weren't really desecrated as general caretaking fell into the hands of local Albanians who wanted to spiff them up just as nicely as the memorials to their "freedom fighters"?

Dori

The Albanians are not only older than the Greeks but also of the dinosaurs and I wonder if you could help solve the riddle of the manner they disappeared.
(Leonidas, 23 January 2013 15:53)
Leonidas I can’t help you for dinosaurs, but I can help you to solve how the Hellenic people disappear and how the hybrid race of Greek of today emerged, if you are interested. I personally don’t hate that hybrid, because I can’t hate my blood (Arvanitas one) that is important component of hybrid Greek of today. Have a nice time my brother (at least partially).

Desecration of cemeteries and historical monuments is beyond the complete human history and culture.

"The destruction and desecration of Serb cemeteries and memorial sites was also condemned by the EU mission, EULEX, KFOR, and UNMIK."

What does all the 'condemning' helps in the lawless state of Kosovo where criminals, terrorists and vandals found a safe home and feel free to do whatever they like?

the problem my serb friends is that the whole world does not see. I'm living in America and not seen one word of this. American media doesn't care about you. Very sad but Albanian Mafia money runs u.s. media.

"Let those savages destroy those monuments,no problem,but film it and show it to the whole world! "
(CG, 22 January 2013 12:32)

The "world" sees that both sides remove each other once what is important. Nobody wins. There are only losers on all sides.

@ the commenter above- Do mass graves count? The Batjanica mass grave site geld the bodies of Albanians fro month old to elders in their 90's. what about the Danube river.
(J, 22 January 2013 19:49)

Oh you still believe that fairy tale? If that were the case, there's be forensic experts from all over Europe digging up the ground and a far more vocal effort by Albanian authorities in reclaiming the remains of their own. Instead no one seems to be doing anything because there's nothing left to dig up that wasn't unearthed immediately after 2000 and Batajnica remains a sleepy suburb of Zemun. But it's nice you try to divert attention away from what you people do now with a story of what you think was allegedly done by someone else more than 10 years ago.

You may break and desecrate cemeteries/churches/monasteries etc But the spirit and feeling you will never touch!

Our holy land will shine once again!
And at that time these irreligious satanists will not live anymore in our holy land Kosovo!

Oh you still believe that fairy tale? ...But it's nice you try to divert attention away from what you people do now with a story of what you think was allegedly done by someone else more than 10 years ago.
(Q, 22 January 2013 20:36)

I don't need to convince you. I have read the Batjanica mass grave news right here on B92. Bodies have already been returned from mass graves inside Serbia. Thousands are still missing. Only Serbia knows what they did with them. They don't want to tell.
Why 10 years ago you were not the same Serb people you are today? Did a spaceship come and replace all those Serbs with other brand spanking new Serbs? So you can kill today and not be held responsible 10 years from now? Nice kind of thinking you got. As Serbs you cannot just show up and act as if you respect the dead. Not only you killed these people but you did the outmost possible to get rid of the bodies so that they could never be found. So spare us the lectures. I have yet to hear one Serb express disgust towards the mass graves of those killed in your name, yet you feel you have the moral high ground to lecture others. When you start seeing an Albanian life equal to that of a Serb then we can have normal discussions. You see Albanians in these posts expressing sorrow. Still haven't seen a Serb do the same. As if throwing people in mass graves is not an atrocious act of terrorism? But who cares; they were Albanian right?

Even from reading the comments here, from Albos, thiese pathetic actions do not surprise me. These people are brought up to be hateful and destructive. Nothing new learned here. But please, continue further educating the world. They'd love to learn more about you.

for the thought provoker, i dare you to find 10 albanian cemetaries in serbia that have been descrated as this single one of many serbian cemetaries in kosovo have.
your twisted blame-the-victim-logic is ass-tounding.
its like suggesting that because kosovo's albanian population has kept that region in abject poverty it would be appropriate to destroy them all so as to bring in energized working minded people to beautify the region.
we both can agree that that is not a proper view, or argument. can you see that your thought was not fully developed?

I am not actually looking for an answer as you would never believe that a Serb would misrepresent the facts to elicit a desired response.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 20:16)
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Don't you get it? Whichever situation happens to be and whichever reason this cemetery was not cared for it does not give anyone the green light to destroy it? Why can't you get something as simple as that?
Also, you say it's the work of a minority and majority Albanians don't feel this way.
Rubbish, rubbish and more rubbish. Why then hasn't your wonderful KPS found who is doing this and brought them to court? Why doesn't one, just one person dob anyone in? Surely someone knows about this and doesn't agree and wants to do the right thing?
The majority is supporting this because nobody says a word. Nobody condemns it and everyone seems to be hiding the culprits.

That's why your argument doesn't make any sense.

Again, no matter what the reason for the state cemetery is in it is simply ghoulish and evil to destroy it.

Get it now?
BTW, how do you expect us to react when this goes on and on and on? Do you expect us to like you?

So if a grave is not neat and tidy that's your green light to destroy it? Only an Albanian would use this logic.
(Peggy, 22 January 2013 13:42)
Did not say that but of course you would think it. But I dare you to find 10 cemeteries thoughout the world that have been abandoned and grown over like this one that has not been vandalized.
(just a thought, 22 January 2013 15:00)
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You did, indirectly.
Shame on Serbs for not looking after those cemeteries? Shame on your people for not allowing them to by attacking any Serb who dares to come back.

So what is more shameful, not looking after the grave or going in there and blowing it up?
Don't use that excuse. Are all Serbian cemeteries there in bad condition and need to be destroyed? How many Albanian cemeteries in Serbia which have been destroyed?
You people are savages and everyone can see it. There is no excuses for what you are doing.
Don't bring that you killed us during the war cr@p either. Our people got killed too but we do not keep attacking you and destroying your graves. It's been a long time since the war too. Are you going to use that excuse forever?
You cannot excuse the inexcusable. You can justify it to yourselves but everyone else sees this as a savage move.

There should not be any excuses for such an acts.

Love ya back, Albanians.

"We Kosovars should speak up and let the entire world know that these vandals do not have the support of the Albanian population in Kosovo. However with great sadness I admit that Kosovo has become a place where a very few dominate everything. I hope and pray for better days for our people as live is becoming harder and harder with each passing day.

Great day everyone!"
(Xhafer, 22 January 2013 14:50)

A voice of reason, and a realistic view of the situation in Kosovo. It makes me feel better to read such an opinion. I really hope that more and more people in Kosovo will share this view and finally manage to elect some politicians who have integrity and who care for their country as a whole instead of extremists or corrupt thugs who only care for their family members and clan mates and who implicitly want to keep the unstable situation because their mafia clans benefit from it

Kosovo police have evidence that serbs did this crime and then blame albanians. This is how serbs did in the 80's, make up stories, blame albanians.
(Bridge, 22 January 2013 20:33)

Do you have evidence of this or are you making crap up on the spot? Albanian excuses are getting more pathetic everyday.

"The Presevo heroes in this case give another service to their country 12 year after their death."
@(dori tirana, 22 January 2013 15:37)
Did Arnaut build any monument for #1 Albo hero:General George Maniakes?
Be realistic & objective with answer please.

"Well then, start acting like civilized human beings. Do something other than have 10 kids and hate everyone and everything around you. "
-- I'm already on my 14 kid and I hate Dr.Pepper

"Get a job and be productive instead of expecting someone else to give you another hand out and then threaten to riot when you don't get your way. "

--My genes do not allow me to work hard like a Serb. You guys are blessed people, you work so hard and are giving. We are subhuman. Your lives are worth so much more.

"Try reading books instead of rewriting them. "

I can't neither read or write. You on the other hand are born polyglots.

"Try acting like the people you think you are instead of the angry mob the rest see you as. "

--We cannot be the calm blessed creatures that the world sees you as. Serbs told me, and it must be true since it came from the Serbs, that I and my lot are animals. I don't know any better. You guys told me that.

"Realize the world neither revolves around you nor owes you anything special because you think you've been victimized for centuries. "

--Indeed it doesn't. But it does owe Serbs a lot. Remember how you lost a battle 500 years ago.

"Learn to live with others and tolerate others instead of harassing them at every possible moment based on whatever stupid grudge you carry of your own making. Once you fix your own problems, we'll be waiting for you at the table to talk.
(Q, 23 January 2013 17:08)"
Thank you for waiting o superior perfect beings.

@(Bugar from Skoplje, 23 January 2013 08:27)

Thanks for realistic comments eliminating ilirian Balkan albo mitology.


"Second George Manikaes is not known in Albania. I know a little for him. He was a general of Byzantine Army ( from some sources of Albanian origin). Till here the story sounds normal, because as we know the This the first time that an army go to war together woman and children(from Sicily to Albania) loose the war but occupy the land. Funny!"
@(dori tirana, 23 January 2013 12:59)

Roman use clever trick with powerful Maniakes, in order to reduce his power, Roman spleet albo population in the Sicily by 50%. Winner all the time, hungry for more power, well paid, Maniakes did not count on disaster with Greaks. He left his powerless people to the princ Vojislav in the citi Durrer.

The problem is the EU mission, EULEX, KFOR, and UNMIK don`t do anything about it.

Kosovo police have evidence that serbs did this crime and then blame albanians. This is how serbs did in the 80's, make up stories, blame albanians.
(Bridge, 22 January 2013 20:33)
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This one is a real gem.
So when can we expect these Serbs to be arrested? The evidence is there so what are they waiting for?

Don't bring that you killed us during the war cr@p either.
(Peggy, 22 January 2013 21:02)
This one sentence negates anything you could ever say about Albanians, none could measure to you. One poster summed it up best, those who advocated the mass graves of the 90's taking the moral highground over some turned over tombstones. The 2 are not even in the same league to be using words like barbarians.

"No Albanian unless soled as foreign agents or manipulated would vandalize Serbian graves as that would only serve Serbian propaganda! "
(Dr Who/UK, 22 January 2013 21:00)

A smart person who thinks rationally would consider that, but no bunch of uneducated Albanian war criminals and thugs inspired by hate propaganda courtesy of Pristina media.

There's no footage of who was vandalizing the graves now, but the world saw the looting ans destruction of churches and houses by an Albanian mob in 2004. Of course, the 2004 events were only Serb propaganda.

Anyway I know the difficulty that you have to find a date for the coming of Albanians at Balkan. This is difficult even for us because this date is before Greeks comes to Balkan and began to write the events. Anyway you Slavs can be happy because your date is documented very well. This are the advantages of newcomers in Balkan:)
(dori tirana, 23 January 2013 12:59)

Dori

The Albanians are not only older than the Greeks but also of the dinosaurs and I wonder if you could help solve the riddle of the manner they disappeared.

"He is one of them( may be), that is not famous for today Albanians. So no need for any monument."
Here is Truth: Any Maniakes monument will destroy ilirian albo mithology. It's to bad to put own history and leader under own foot and rise new without leader like today in Presevo, for shure you will go again under your own foot, like before.

another thread turned into the origin of Albanians. you know what, I don't care where Albanians come from. it could be proven to me beyond any reasonable doubt that we come from South Africa, and my political position on Kosova would not change. for what its worth though Leonidas, the Albanian language is a classified Indo-European one, but in its own branch. This means its not Slavic, Latin, Greek or Turkic (hence it can't be Asian). if you think linguists are wrong, do the following, study Albanian and publish your own scholarly work and show where they are wrong. its really very easy. i will also say this, i have never studied Arvanite, i have heard it and have zero trouble understanding it. so we either took the language from them or they from us. there is also a distinct ethnic group in Italy called Arberesh, who's language I understand with ease.
as for links between greeks and albanians, only the biggest of all dimwits would suggest that none exist. i venture many people in Northern Greece and Southern Albania would have both and Albanian heritage. i would also argue that 1/10000 people in the Balkans would have Turkish blood in them. you do not get ruled by the Ottoman scimitar for 500 years and not have it leave an imprint. only the most extreme and frankly racist person would want to suggest that a particular area is pure

It is such a shame to attack cemeteries. There is no reason in a world to attack cemeteries. There are thousands of other methods to express ones displeasure. Those that are doing the vandalism are just adding fuel to the fire and certainly are not doing any favors to the Albanian cause. We Kosovars should speak up and let the entire world know that these vandals do not have the support of the Albanian population in Kosovo. However with great sadness I admit that Kosovo has become a place where a very few dominate everything. I hope and pray for better days for our people as live is becoming harder and harder with each passing day.

Great day everyone!

It's sad how things go on in former Yugo when is all this tit for tat going to end. When we have killed each other off some future archaeologist will wonder what kind of mad murderous insanity possess the people their. Was it worth it all these never ending hate cycles of revenge. What are we leaving future generations misery destruction death a great legacy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQM .

Then explain to me why all the KLA memorials that sprout up along the road from Mitrovica to Pristina are constantly littered with garbage, plastic bags flying in the wind, and random car parts that fell off? Oh wait, let me guess: these Serbian graves weren't really desecrated as general caretaking fell into the hands of local Albanians who wanted to spiff them up just as nicely as the memorials to their "freedom fighters"?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 22 January 2013 16:41)

If you drive car you will see that. But if you use Bus or Train they are full with the chiken for flea market.

(dori tirana, 23 January 2013 21:11)

No Dori.Today's Greeks landed from a spaceship 190 years ago.The same spaceship took away all the ancient Greeks and their descendants and that is how they disappeared.

Cheap Albanian propaganda -almost identical applied by Gruevski and Fyrom.Greeks are probably the only modern nation in the Balkans that can show a historical connection through the ancient Greek-Roman and Byzantine periods unlike the Albanians that cannot provide any proof of connection with Illyrians or any other ancient entity.Having said this,wake up and smell the coffee.You're Albanians with a Turkish Islamist connection originating from Caucasus.This is a fact not a fiction.The only common element between Greeks and Albanians are the borders,nothing else.

ttp://wschulze.userweb.mwn.de/Udigen1.htm

In its effort to create new world order, this is the direct product of NATO creation of NEWPORN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvMo6zYzUQY) , I suppose NEWBORN, democracy. I wonder if the goal of the project of new world order is actually creating disorder.

Enver Hoxa's albanian was a paradise compared to Tito's SFRY! The deluded albanian crowd really are out in force. Your actions only reinforce perceptions throughout the rest of Europe that you are primitives.

Despicable.

These people have to be taken to jail.

When you start seeing an Albanian life equal to that of a Serb then we can have normal discussions.
(J, 23 January 2013 01:56)

Well then, start acting like civilized human beings. Do something other than have 10 kids and hate everyone and everything around you. Get a job and be productive instead of expecting someone else to give you another hand out and then threaten to riot when you don't get your way. Try reading books instead of rewriting them. Try acting like the people you think you are instead of the angry mob the rest see you as. Realize the world neither revolves around you nor owes you anything special because you think you've been victimized for centuries. Learn to live with others and tolerate others instead of harassing them at every possible moment based on whatever stupid grudge you carry of your own making. Once you fix your own problems, we'll be waiting for you at the table to talk.

Well then, start acting like civilized human beings. Do something other than have 10 kids and hate everyone and everything around you. Get a job and be productive instead of expecting someone else to give you another hand out and then threaten to riot when you don't get your way. Try reading books instead of rewriting them. Try acting like the people you think you are instead of the angry mob the rest see you as. Realize the world neither revolves around you nor owes you anything special because you think you've been victimized for centuries. Learn to live with others and tolerate others instead of harassing them at every possible moment based on whatever stupid grudge you carry of your own making. Once you fix your own problems, we'll be waiting for you at the table to talk.
(Q, 23 January 2013 17:08)
I am confused, I thought you were responding to Albanians but your response hits the nail on the head for Serbs, except the 10 kids and that really does not fit either. Albanians have a higher birth rate but does not approach 10 by any means.
The whole 3 years I was in Kosovo met many Albanian families and several with 4-5 kids, many with less, and 1 with 10 children who were all grown.

The guys who did this are hate-filled thugs and nothing more. Disgraceful.

I really don't understand this conversation. Do we fight about dead people? Don't they deserve to rest in peace, dear friends?