Protest in southern town ends without incidents

And how would Albanians feel if the large Serbian population came to these towns and terrorized these people day in, day out.

You'd be calling for war. Serbia must step up their protection of all Serbs, churches, and grave sites in it's southern province of Kosovo. The terrorists need to be dealt with.

The declaration was adopted by six ethnic Albanian parties who held a meeting ahead of the rally on Monday. - B92
Mama mia, six ethnic Albanian political parties in little Presevo - for Christ's sake, Western nations have but a max of three or four. Maybe it's good business to be in Presevo local politics? In any case, why are these protesters holding Albanian flags in the photo? Maybe that is the problem, these people do not respect the country they live in, or reside by their laws? It is clear to me, that Albanians, wherever they live, want to be Albanian, in a unified Albanian State. It does not matter if it is Kosovo, or Presevo, or Macedonia, or wherever, they want a Greater Albania. If they cannot understand that the removed monument honored a group of separatists, they did want to separate Presevo from Serbia, then they are not being honest, but rather simply concentrating on their objectives. The removal of the monument in question has nothing to do with human rights, or civil rights, or minority rights violations, but with violations of the laws in which it was erected. An ounce of honesty from Albanians would go a long way here, but no Albanian leader has the balls to say it.

Best palce for this stone will be Tirana, in memory for first albo leader who come to the Balkan, "George Maniakes 1042" - Sofronije
Sofronije, is Maniakes the origin of the word, maniac? By Albanian behavior, it seems appropriate to ask. I just do not understand the reactions to this monument from Albanians, everywhere. What should the State of Serbia do, allow everything to be erected, by anyone, even if it glorifies or honors groups that tried violently to separate of a part of its territory from it? I mean, what am I missing here? The Presevo KLA were enemies of the State of Serbia, killed Serbian police and soldiers, not to mention innocent civilians, yet the State of Serbia should allow a monument on its soil honoring these separatist? Maniakes, that's all I can say.

the albanian flag should be banned from Serbia.

Sorry to upset you, azir, but the history you state is your own, and not the one recognized by western, or serbian powers. maybe it is you that needs a good history lesson, one not written by an albanian? you must admit, it's a good thing to have that monument controversy settled in presevo. long live the peace and love between the ethnicities in the balkans. i love you all.

I don't know why serbs should engage in talks with albanians? Albanians have no grasp on reality and their minds are so twisted that the only one they need to talk to is a shrink. They provoke and if one racts to the provocation they begin to terrorize. Serbias curse is having albanians in their back yard. I hope they remain in the back yard because people like that don't deserve to be let out.

A new day

Azir

My statement is based on the events in Kosovo and Presevo the last decade. And I know you can not prove me wrong. In a period of "peace" albanians have desecrated graveyards, churches/monasteries and homes of serbs in Kosovo by the hundreds. You and your behavior are proving my point!

Albanians can hold all the Albanian State flags they want on Serbian soil, but the only one that matters is the one on the building in the background, in the photo. Albanians, you are on Serbian soil, it is also your soil, but it does not live under the black eagle, but the white one, with the 4 C's. The world powers gave Albanians a state after WWI, all the Albanians that are not happy with the nations they live in, can move there. But I a feeling, Tirana does not want you. In reality, isn't that the problem?

A protest rally in Preševo that gathered ethnic Albanians from southern Serbia ended without incidents on Monday.

But of course, we are classy people, we don't block the roads and act like you folk in Norther Kosova.

Serbian Flag in between to two Albanian flags... Like a rose between two thorns!

Ziveli!

You are not alone, we all stand by you around the world. serbia still did not learn its lesson!

The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians.

Funny how these people were nowhere to be seen when a 200 strong Zandarmerija force showed up, cowards.

Sorry, Azir, but we have a different view of borders, as does the world community. Can you please explain who gave present day Albanians all the land you claim? It appears you claim all of Kosovo, most of southern Serbia, all of northeast Macedonia, and a large chunk of northern Montenegro. All I can say is, Wow! How did Albanians come by all this territory? Who did they conquer to get it? The claims people make here are so far out, that I do not know where to answer.

Speaking in Belgrade on Monday, PM Ivica Dačić said that the security situation in Preševo was stable, and that the events in the south were Serbia's "internal affair".

-- It is an internal affair until the world sees it. A certain Milosevic also maintained that Kosova was an internal affair until it wasn't anymore. Careful how you play this one. You try to show force and this may slip from your hands.

@ Winston- they are holding Albanian flags cuz they are ethnic Albanians. You're being an Albanophobe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Maniakes

I realize wikipedia isn't the most scholarly work but... Maniakes... Greek Byzantine. Do Albanians try to appropriate anything from the surrounding cultures for theirs in an attempt to have something?

Just curious.

Either way back to the monument. No country would allow a monument to a separatist group in front of a government building. This isn't about human rights, it is about politics. Albanians hoping they can still capitalize on the politics of demonizing Serbs, which started in the 90's and is still alive in parts of the EU / North America. Truly, who can blame them for attempting to frame things in this guise it has worked to this point. Regardless politics not human right.

winston

its a pity you didn't share these sentiments with Krajina Serbs. who knows, if they'd respected the state and law of Croatia, there'd have been no need for Operation Storm

In any case, why are these protesters holding Albanian flags in the photo? Maybe that is the problem, these people do not respect the country they live in, or reside by their laws?

@Wilson

Have we met? Of course we DO NOT respect that demented country, hence the protests. What are you smoking?!

Respect others and you'll be respected, a word that does not exist in Serbia dictionary.

Wake up and smell the reality.

Respecting others is in Albanian blood, until you push all the wrong buttons, which your peeps have done for ages.

Chickens have come hone to roost.

But of course, we are classy people, we don't block the roads and act like you folk in Norther Kosova.
(Pls say it ain't so!!!, 21 January 2013 19:34)

No, you just knock over headstones, piss in churches before torching them, shoot at children from a distance, kick people in the genitals once they're tied up and steal copper plating and telephone wires from public buildings.

And only when either no one is looking or you outnumber your unarmed targets at least 5 to 1.

A protest rally in Preševo that gathered ethnic Albanians from southern Serbia ended without incidents on Monday.

But of course, we are classy people, we don't block the roads and act like you folk in Norther Kosova.
(Pls say it ain't so!!!, 21 January 2013 19:34)

Please see gravesites in Kosovo.

"It is clear to me, that Albanians, wherever they live, want to be Albanian, in a unified Albanian State. "

And how is that different from what you Serbs want?

For the most part, these albanians are acting reasonably. I certainly don't agree with their support of terrorists but assembling and protesting against something peacefully, despite it being highly emotianal is a reasonable reaction.

It also shows a fundimental difference between Serbia and the Pristina controlled areas. In Serbia reasonable people can go and protest in the open, while in Pristina held territory, the reasonable people stay home and trouble makers attack graves and churches while Internet flamers cheer them on as if they have acomplished something. In Serbia, people are trying to move on and have a peaceful life, while in Pristina controlled territory the greatest social achievement in 5 years of "independence" is bulldozing some schools and knocking over graves in order to hurt feelings.

The west tore away Kosovo from someone else, and gave it to you and the best you can do with it is elect criminals and knock down historical markers in order to hurt someones feelings. Wow what a pretty investment picture.

@Winston the ignorant..who do you think you are talking nonsense with regards to Albanian history? For your information West powers after World War one recognizied only 35 % of original Shqiptare indigenous lands.Presheva Valley,Kosova and Albanian areas of Montenegro and "Macedonia" were included into a Slav centered Yugoslav against the wishs of native Albanians.

With your ignorant Tirana remark.........
Prishtina is the Capital of Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc (Eastern Kosova)

Learn some history to avoid continualy embarassing yourself.

@Mike C the ignorant.......

"Serbs are higher than Albanians" mentality is what destroyed Yugoslavia.

And that's why no one wants anything to do with "these higher Serbs"............

The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians.
(MikeC

Serbs are above Albanians and everyone else when it comes to committing heinous crimes. You even put the Taliban to shame.
Congratulations!

You are not alone, we all stand by you around the world. serbia still did not learn its lesson!(KOSOVA, 21 January 2013 17:26)

thank you. it's important for ppl trapped in those circumstances to know they have support from around the world.

actually some ppl in serbia have learned the lessons very well, but unfortunately they are not the ones in power, nor have they any chance. as i have said before, they are depressed and dispirited about the belgrade regime(s) and the opportunity for real change, for the better. it is always same old, same old. yesterday's actions by the "gendarmerie" were just the latest chapter.

the only choice, as many of us see it, is secession from serbia. there appears to be no middle ground with the belgrade regime(s). the so-called intl community fell utterly flat in its reaction, and showed that it cannot be relied upon. their understanding of balkan realities is very thin indeed, and their memories quite shallow.

roberto frisco

thank you. it's important for ppl trapped in those circumstances to know they have support from around the world.
(roberto, 21 January 2013 18:21)

my dear little brother,

support from you does not equal support around the world. remember what the psychologist told you about that ego of your's.

ciao,
norberto
fiasco

"A protest rally in Preševo that gathered ethnic Albanians from southern Serbia ended without incidents on Monday"

Interesting they didn't follow the example of their fellow Serb citizens in North Kosovo...

Please learn some history this way we know what we are talking about.
(azir, 22 January 2013 00:14)
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It's you who needs to read something credible.

For the 100th time, please show some proof of your existence in Kosovo before Serbs.
You can do the talk but now do some proving.

"For the 100th time, please show some proof of your existence in Kosovo before Serbs."

So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go? Does the time before the Migration Period count as well?

The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians.
(MikeC, 21 January 2013 18:57)
BINGO, the one statement that sums up all the problems with Serbia, Kosovo, and Preshevo etc. All the other comments are fluff. But all the millions of words written here can be reduced to this one attitude. The reason thousands of people are dead, the reason the balkans are the bottom of Europe economically, the reason millions of people live in hate every day of their lives.
Serbs not only in Serbia but around the world fighting to maintain this supposed hierarchy and Albanians trying to break it down.

I only wonder what ever happened to "you will see the full force of the albanian people if you touch the monument" hahahahah.

"Sofronije, is Maniakes the origin of the word, maniac?
@ (winston, 21 January 2013 16:20)

Winston, Georgeus Maniakes don't have nothing with word "maniac".
To my opinion, it is strange that rises a stone to terrorists on foreign territory and not build a monument to the General, man who led his people in the Balkans from Sicily (11th century citi Drach).
If they do that all Balkan will be celebrate Durres monument.

Albanians can hold all the Albanian State flags they want on Serbian soil, but the only one that matters is the one on the building in the background, in the photo. Albanians, you are on Serbian soil, it is also your soil, but it does not live under the black eagle, but the white one, with the 4 C's. The world powers gave Albanians a state after WWI, all the Albanians that are not happy with the nations they live in, can move there. But I a feeling, Tirana does not want you. In reality, isn't that the problem?
(winston, 21 January 2013 18:02)

what are you a 4 year old with this comments. serb mentality hahahaha. BTW your flag looks like a russian flag with a white chicken in the middle. Don't that ring a bell to you? you are siberian from russia go back to russia if you dont like albanian land from presheva to preveza and ulqin to skopje.

You guys are all for the tip! Your in Serbia not Albania! Its just like me putting a monument to Ratko Mladic in Melbourne! Get a life people

Best palce for this stone will be Tirana.
in memory for first albo leader who com to the Balkan.

"George Maniakes 1042"

Sorry, Azir, but we have a different view of borders, as does the world community. Can you please explain who gave present day Albanians all the land you claim? It appears you claim all of Kosovo, most of southern Serbia, all of northeast Macedonia, and a large chunk of northern Montenegro. All I can say is, Wow! How did Albanians come by all this territory? Who did they conquer to get it? The claims people make here are so far out, that I do not know where to answer.
(winston, 21 January 2013 22:07)

Sorry, winston, but we have a different view of borders, as does the world community. Can you please explain who gave present day Serbs all the land you claim? It appears you claim all of Kosovo and Serbia, most of Bosnia and Croatia. All I can say is, Wow! How did Serbs come by all this territory? Who did they conquer to get it? The claims people make here are so far out, that I do not know where to answer.

So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go?
(Fikret, 22 January 2013 11:24)

As far back as when Serbs arrived in Kosovo... some people in these forums appear to think that that's when Kosovo's territory was physically created (probably by the Serbian Orthodox God). Before then there was empty space where today is Kosovo and you could actually see through the Earth to the opposite side of the globe :)

MikeC: "The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians". MikeC this mentality brought YUGO to its knew becouse of you Serbs thinking you are above all, glad you showed the racist hatered yourself day in day out, then again your above all thinking made Serbia a nobody in the Ballkan which is good cos Peale had enough of your myths.

Wrong picture at wrong place.
George Maniakes will not com, He is to far from Presevo.

Without Big Brother USA fighting their battles for them, the Albanians have resorted to their very predictable cowardly behavior - attacking Serb churches, monastatries and cemetaries. Is this part of the honor code of Leke Dukagjini that Albanians boast about? I fail to see any honor in desecrating places of worship and gravestones. But then again, what can you expect from a people whose leaders and heroes are drug runners and human organ black marketeers. Keep up the good work Albos. The world is beginning to see what the Serbs have been saying for dedcades.

No it doesn't Fikret, but the Albanians are basing their claim on that.
If the land only ever belonged to the first inhabitants there would be no white Americans or white Australians. You know that Albanians are constantly making the claim that they were there first and we are invaders therefore Kosovo belongs to them. I want proof of that. They are the ones you should be directing such a reply to.
I hope I have made myself clear to you now. I don't think there is any way you can twist these words now.
Your pathetic attempt to make it sound like I was saying something else has failed and will always fail. Either contradict me with facts or stay out of it because frankly, you are nothing but a sh!t stirrer.
(Peggy, 23 January 2013 09:57)

Now that you've made that clear; Kosova belongs to Serbs why? Why not the Turks, they had it for longer than you had it. Further they had it continuously rather than in breaks?

Why not the Italians- Their empire had it for much much longer than you had it. Not only that but they had it prior and after you showed up in these parts. They had their civilization and like the Turks had a pretty efficient and organize administration for centuries. So Kosova belongs to Serbia why? If yourselves took it from others, then others taking it from you is wrong why?

@Winston........Indigenous native Shqiptares (Albanians) need conquer no one.
I pre-date Slav invasion of the 6/7 century as many Serbs would admit.
Our independence from the Ottoman Empire 100 years ago and the West support for a Slav based YUGOSLAVIA at our expense did not benefit us in no shape or form.

Please learn some history this way we know what we are talking about.

"So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go? Does the time before the Migration Period count as well?"

It was Serbs who ESTABLISHED Kosovo, there would be no such place called "Kosovo" without the Serbs' ancestors. They also have most all the historical buildings and monuments from many hundreds of years ago. There is nothing historically Albanian - even the old mosques are Ottoman/Turkish, not Albanian.

[link]

"I realize wikipedia isn't the most scholarly work but... Maniakes... Greek Byzantine. Do Albanians try to appropriate anything from the surrounding cultures for theirs in an attempt to have something?
Just curious."
@(VastZero, 21 January 2013 17:30)
Weekpedia did not say nothing what's happen with George Maniakes people in the citi Drach after Ohrid battle. Serbain princ Vojislav give to Maniakes people hils to pay taxes, mid time advance Balkan receive people with Maniakes policy used in Sicily. It's presented today in common Balkan life.
Thanks.

"For the 100th time, please show some proof of your existence in Kosovo before Serbs."

So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go? Does the time before the Migration Period count as well?
(Fikret, 22 January 2013 11:24)
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No it doesn't Fikret, but the Albanians are basing their claim on that.
If the land only ever belonged to the first inhabitants there would be no white Americans or white Australians. You know that Albanians are constantly making the claim that they were there first and we are invaders therefore Kosovo belongs to them. I want proof of that. They are the ones you should be directing such a reply to.
I hope I have made myself clear to you now. I don't think there is any way you can twist these words now.
Your pathetic attempt to make it sound like I was saying something else has failed and will always fail. Either contradict me with facts or stay out of it because frankly, you are nothing but a sh!t stirrer.

Best palce for this stone will be Tirana.
in memory for first albo leader who com to the Balkan.

"George Maniakes 1042"

The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians.

You are not alone, we all stand by you around the world. serbia still did not learn its lesson!

Speaking in Belgrade on Monday, PM Ivica Dačić said that the security situation in Preševo was stable, and that the events in the south were Serbia's "internal affair".

-- It is an internal affair until the world sees it. A certain Milosevic also maintained that Kosova was an internal affair until it wasn't anymore. Careful how you play this one. You try to show force and this may slip from your hands.

@ Winston- they are holding Albanian flags cuz they are ethnic Albanians. You're being an Albanophobe.

Albanians can hold all the Albanian State flags they want on Serbian soil, but the only one that matters is the one on the building in the background, in the photo. Albanians, you are on Serbian soil, it is also your soil, but it does not live under the black eagle, but the white one, with the 4 C's. The world powers gave Albanians a state after WWI, all the Albanians that are not happy with the nations they live in, can move there. But I a feeling, Tirana does not want you. In reality, isn't that the problem?
(winston, 21 January 2013 18:02)

what are you a 4 year old with this comments. serb mentality hahahaha. BTW your flag looks like a russian flag with a white chicken in the middle. Don't that ring a bell to you? you are siberian from russia go back to russia if you dont like albanian land from presheva to preveza and ulqin to skopje.

The declaration was adopted by six ethnic Albanian parties who held a meeting ahead of the rally on Monday. - B92
Mama mia, six ethnic Albanian political parties in little Presevo - for Christ's sake, Western nations have but a max of three or four. Maybe it's good business to be in Presevo local politics? In any case, why are these protesters holding Albanian flags in the photo? Maybe that is the problem, these people do not respect the country they live in, or reside by their laws? It is clear to me, that Albanians, wherever they live, want to be Albanian, in a unified Albanian State. It does not matter if it is Kosovo, or Presevo, or Macedonia, or wherever, they want a Greater Albania. If they cannot understand that the removed monument honored a group of separatists, they did want to separate Presevo from Serbia, then they are not being honest, but rather simply concentrating on their objectives. The removal of the monument in question has nothing to do with human rights, or civil rights, or minority rights violations, but with violations of the laws in which it was erected. An ounce of honesty from Albanians would go a long way here, but no Albanian leader has the balls to say it.

You are not alone, we all stand by you around the world. serbia still did not learn its lesson!(KOSOVA, 21 January 2013 17:26)

thank you. it's important for ppl trapped in those circumstances to know they have support from around the world.

actually some ppl in serbia have learned the lessons very well, but unfortunately they are not the ones in power, nor have they any chance. as i have said before, they are depressed and dispirited about the belgrade regime(s) and the opportunity for real change, for the better. it is always same old, same old. yesterday's actions by the "gendarmerie" were just the latest chapter.

the only choice, as many of us see it, is secession from serbia. there appears to be no middle ground with the belgrade regime(s). the so-called intl community fell utterly flat in its reaction, and showed that it cannot be relied upon. their understanding of balkan realities is very thin indeed, and their memories quite shallow.

roberto frisco

A protest rally in Preševo that gathered ethnic Albanians from southern Serbia ended without incidents on Monday.

But of course, we are classy people, we don't block the roads and act like you folk in Norther Kosova.

The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians.
(MikeC

Serbs are above Albanians and everyone else when it comes to committing heinous crimes. You even put the Taliban to shame.
Congratulations!

And how would Albanians feel if the large Serbian population came to these towns and terrorized these people day in, day out.

You'd be calling for war. Serbia must step up their protection of all Serbs, churches, and grave sites in it's southern province of Kosovo. The terrorists need to be dealt with.

"It is clear to me, that Albanians, wherever they live, want to be Albanian, in a unified Albanian State. "

And how is that different from what you Serbs want?

I don't know why serbs should engage in talks with albanians? Albanians have no grasp on reality and their minds are so twisted that the only one they need to talk to is a shrink. They provoke and if one racts to the provocation they begin to terrorize. Serbias curse is having albanians in their back yard. I hope they remain in the back yard because people like that don't deserve to be let out.

"A protest rally in Preševo that gathered ethnic Albanians from southern Serbia ended without incidents on Monday"

Interesting they didn't follow the example of their fellow Serb citizens in North Kosovo...

the albanian flag should be banned from Serbia.

Albanians can hold all the Albanian State flags they want on Serbian soil, but the only one that matters is the one on the building in the background, in the photo. Albanians, you are on Serbian soil, it is also your soil, but it does not live under the black eagle, but the white one, with the 4 C's. The world powers gave Albanians a state after WWI, all the Albanians that are not happy with the nations they live in, can move there. But I a feeling, Tirana does not want you. In reality, isn't that the problem?

Best palce for this stone will be Tirana, in memory for first albo leader who come to the Balkan, "George Maniakes 1042" - Sofronije
Sofronije, is Maniakes the origin of the word, maniac? By Albanian behavior, it seems appropriate to ask. I just do not understand the reactions to this monument from Albanians, everywhere. What should the State of Serbia do, allow everything to be erected, by anyone, even if it glorifies or honors groups that tried violently to separate of a part of its territory from it? I mean, what am I missing here? The Presevo KLA were enemies of the State of Serbia, killed Serbian police and soldiers, not to mention innocent civilians, yet the State of Serbia should allow a monument on its soil honoring these separatist? Maniakes, that's all I can say.

Serbian Flag in between to two Albanian flags... Like a rose between two thorns!

Ziveli!

winston

its a pity you didn't share these sentiments with Krajina Serbs. who knows, if they'd respected the state and law of Croatia, there'd have been no need for Operation Storm

@Winston the ignorant..who do you think you are talking nonsense with regards to Albanian history? For your information West powers after World War one recognizied only 35 % of original Shqiptare indigenous lands.Presheva Valley,Kosova and Albanian areas of Montenegro and "Macedonia" were included into a Slav centered Yugoslav against the wishs of native Albanians.

With your ignorant Tirana remark.........
Prishtina is the Capital of Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc (Eastern Kosova)

Learn some history to avoid continualy embarassing yourself.

In any case, why are these protesters holding Albanian flags in the photo? Maybe that is the problem, these people do not respect the country they live in, or reside by their laws?

@Wilson

Have we met? Of course we DO NOT respect that demented country, hence the protests. What are you smoking?!

Respect others and you'll be respected, a word that does not exist in Serbia dictionary.

Wake up and smell the reality.

Respecting others is in Albanian blood, until you push all the wrong buttons, which your peeps have done for ages.

Chickens have come hone to roost.

@Mike C the ignorant.......

"Serbs are higher than Albanians" mentality is what destroyed Yugoslavia.

And that's why no one wants anything to do with "these higher Serbs"............

For the most part, these albanians are acting reasonably. I certainly don't agree with their support of terrorists but assembling and protesting against something peacefully, despite it being highly emotianal is a reasonable reaction.

It also shows a fundimental difference between Serbia and the Pristina controlled areas. In Serbia reasonable people can go and protest in the open, while in Pristina held territory, the reasonable people stay home and trouble makers attack graves and churches while Internet flamers cheer them on as if they have acomplished something. In Serbia, people are trying to move on and have a peaceful life, while in Pristina controlled territory the greatest social achievement in 5 years of "independence" is bulldozing some schools and knocking over graves in order to hurt feelings.

The west tore away Kosovo from someone else, and gave it to you and the best you can do with it is elect criminals and knock down historical markers in order to hurt someones feelings. Wow what a pretty investment picture.

"Sofronije, is Maniakes the origin of the word, maniac?
@ (winston, 21 January 2013 16:20)

Winston, Georgeus Maniakes don't have nothing with word "maniac".
To my opinion, it is strange that rises a stone to terrorists on foreign territory and not build a monument to the General, man who led his people in the Balkans from Sicily (11th century citi Drach).
If they do that all Balkan will be celebrate Durres monument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Maniakes

I realize wikipedia isn't the most scholarly work but... Maniakes... Greek Byzantine. Do Albanians try to appropriate anything from the surrounding cultures for theirs in an attempt to have something?

Just curious.

Either way back to the monument. No country would allow a monument to a separatist group in front of a government building. This isn't about human rights, it is about politics. Albanians hoping they can still capitalize on the politics of demonizing Serbs, which started in the 90's and is still alive in parts of the EU / North America. Truly, who can blame them for attempting to frame things in this guise it has worked to this point. Regardless politics not human right.

The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians.
(MikeC, 21 January 2013 18:57)
BINGO, the one statement that sums up all the problems with Serbia, Kosovo, and Preshevo etc. All the other comments are fluff. But all the millions of words written here can be reduced to this one attitude. The reason thousands of people are dead, the reason the balkans are the bottom of Europe economically, the reason millions of people live in hate every day of their lives.
Serbs not only in Serbia but around the world fighting to maintain this supposed hierarchy and Albanians trying to break it down.

But of course, we are classy people, we don't block the roads and act like you folk in Norther Kosova.
(Pls say it ain't so!!!, 21 January 2013 19:34)

No, you just knock over headstones, piss in churches before torching them, shoot at children from a distance, kick people in the genitals once they're tied up and steal copper plating and telephone wires from public buildings.

And only when either no one is looking or you outnumber your unarmed targets at least 5 to 1.

A protest rally in Preševo that gathered ethnic Albanians from southern Serbia ended without incidents on Monday.

But of course, we are classy people, we don't block the roads and act like you folk in Norther Kosova.
(Pls say it ain't so!!!, 21 January 2013 19:34)

Please see gravesites in Kosovo.

A new day

Azir

My statement is based on the events in Kosovo and Presevo the last decade. And I know you can not prove me wrong. In a period of "peace" albanians have desecrated graveyards, churches/monasteries and homes of serbs in Kosovo by the hundreds. You and your behavior are proving my point!

MikeC: "The serbian flag obove the albanian one. Just like serbs are above albanians". MikeC this mentality brought YUGO to its knew becouse of you Serbs thinking you are above all, glad you showed the racist hatered yourself day in day out, then again your above all thinking made Serbia a nobody in the Ballkan which is good cos Peale had enough of your myths.

thank you. it's important for ppl trapped in those circumstances to know they have support from around the world.
(roberto, 21 January 2013 18:21)

my dear little brother,

support from you does not equal support around the world. remember what the psychologist told you about that ego of your's.

ciao,
norberto
fiasco

Funny how these people were nowhere to be seen when a 200 strong Zandarmerija force showed up, cowards.

Sorry, Azir, but we have a different view of borders, as does the world community. Can you please explain who gave present day Albanians all the land you claim? It appears you claim all of Kosovo, most of southern Serbia, all of northeast Macedonia, and a large chunk of northern Montenegro. All I can say is, Wow! How did Albanians come by all this territory? Who did they conquer to get it? The claims people make here are so far out, that I do not know where to answer.

Sorry to upset you, azir, but the history you state is your own, and not the one recognized by western, or serbian powers. maybe it is you that needs a good history lesson, one not written by an albanian? you must admit, it's a good thing to have that monument controversy settled in presevo. long live the peace and love between the ethnicities in the balkans. i love you all.

Please learn some history this way we know what we are talking about.
(azir, 22 January 2013 00:14)
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It's you who needs to read something credible.

For the 100th time, please show some proof of your existence in Kosovo before Serbs.
You can do the talk but now do some proving.

"For the 100th time, please show some proof of your existence in Kosovo before Serbs."

So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go? Does the time before the Migration Period count as well?

@Winston........Indigenous native Shqiptares (Albanians) need conquer no one.
I pre-date Slav invasion of the 6/7 century as many Serbs would admit.
Our independence from the Ottoman Empire 100 years ago and the West support for a Slav based YUGOSLAVIA at our expense did not benefit us in no shape or form.

Please learn some history this way we know what we are talking about.

Sorry, Azir, but we have a different view of borders, as does the world community. Can you please explain who gave present day Albanians all the land you claim? It appears you claim all of Kosovo, most of southern Serbia, all of northeast Macedonia, and a large chunk of northern Montenegro. All I can say is, Wow! How did Albanians come by all this territory? Who did they conquer to get it? The claims people make here are so far out, that I do not know where to answer.
(winston, 21 January 2013 22:07)

Sorry, winston, but we have a different view of borders, as does the world community. Can you please explain who gave present day Serbs all the land you claim? It appears you claim all of Kosovo and Serbia, most of Bosnia and Croatia. All I can say is, Wow! How did Serbs come by all this territory? Who did they conquer to get it? The claims people make here are so far out, that I do not know where to answer.

You guys are all for the tip! Your in Serbia not Albania! Its just like me putting a monument to Ratko Mladic in Melbourne! Get a life people

Wrong picture at wrong place.
George Maniakes will not com, He is to far from Presevo.

I only wonder what ever happened to "you will see the full force of the albanian people if you touch the monument" hahahahah.

Without Big Brother USA fighting their battles for them, the Albanians have resorted to their very predictable cowardly behavior - attacking Serb churches, monastatries and cemetaries. Is this part of the honor code of Leke Dukagjini that Albanians boast about? I fail to see any honor in desecrating places of worship and gravestones. But then again, what can you expect from a people whose leaders and heroes are drug runners and human organ black marketeers. Keep up the good work Albos. The world is beginning to see what the Serbs have been saying for dedcades.

"For the 100th time, please show some proof of your existence in Kosovo before Serbs."

So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go? Does the time before the Migration Period count as well?
(Fikret, 22 January 2013 11:24)
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No it doesn't Fikret, but the Albanians are basing their claim on that.
If the land only ever belonged to the first inhabitants there would be no white Americans or white Australians. You know that Albanians are constantly making the claim that they were there first and we are invaders therefore Kosovo belongs to them. I want proof of that. They are the ones you should be directing such a reply to.
I hope I have made myself clear to you now. I don't think there is any way you can twist these words now.
Your pathetic attempt to make it sound like I was saying something else has failed and will always fail. Either contradict me with facts or stay out of it because frankly, you are nothing but a sh!t stirrer.

"So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go? Does the time before the Migration Period count as well?"

It was Serbs who ESTABLISHED Kosovo, there would be no such place called "Kosovo" without the Serbs' ancestors. They also have most all the historical buildings and monuments from many hundreds of years ago. There is nothing historically Albanian - even the old mosques are Ottoman/Turkish, not Albanian.

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"I realize wikipedia isn't the most scholarly work but... Maniakes... Greek Byzantine. Do Albanians try to appropriate anything from the surrounding cultures for theirs in an attempt to have something?
Just curious."
@(VastZero, 21 January 2013 17:30)
Weekpedia did not say nothing what's happen with George Maniakes people in the citi Drach after Ohrid battle. Serbain princ Vojislav give to Maniakes people hils to pay taxes, mid time advance Balkan receive people with Maniakes policy used in Sicily. It's presented today in common Balkan life.
Thanks.

No it doesn't Fikret, but the Albanians are basing their claim on that.
If the land only ever belonged to the first inhabitants there would be no white Americans or white Australians. You know that Albanians are constantly making the claim that they were there first and we are invaders therefore Kosovo belongs to them. I want proof of that. They are the ones you should be directing such a reply to.
I hope I have made myself clear to you now. I don't think there is any way you can twist these words now.
Your pathetic attempt to make it sound like I was saying something else has failed and will always fail. Either contradict me with facts or stay out of it because frankly, you are nothing but a sh!t stirrer.
(Peggy, 23 January 2013 09:57)

Now that you've made that clear; Kosova belongs to Serbs why? Why not the Turks, they had it for longer than you had it. Further they had it continuously rather than in breaks?

Why not the Italians- Their empire had it for much much longer than you had it. Not only that but they had it prior and after you showed up in these parts. They had their civilization and like the Turks had a pretty efficient and organize administration for centuries. So Kosova belongs to Serbia why? If yourselves took it from others, then others taking it from you is wrong why?

So the land generally belongs to those who were there first? How far back in history shall we go?
(Fikret, 22 January 2013 11:24)

As far back as when Serbs arrived in Kosovo... some people in these forums appear to think that that's when Kosovo's territory was physically created (probably by the Serbian Orthodox God). Before then there was empty space where today is Kosovo and you could actually see through the Earth to the opposite side of the globe :)