Opposition party calls on PM to resign over Kosovo remark
The opposition Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) on Tuesday demanded that Prime Minister Ivica Dačić should resign over a remark he made concerning Kosovo.
@Peggy........I thiink make-believe Serbs such as yourself due a dis-service to Serbia and the immediate region with your ingrained hatred of reality and the truth.
If you really wanted what's in the best interest of your people then you would realize the inevitable .......KOSOVA -UN MEMBER and Serbia goes on to a better life in the EU just like you did when you abandoned "your people" for Australia.
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azir, it it you who is shooting his mouth off here not us.
You don't know anything about our circumstances and yet you accuse us of abandoning our country.
Many people leave and many families go in their own direction but that doesn't mean we don't care about each other and want the best for each other.
You call me a make believe Serb. What gives you the right to classify me as that? I know I am Serbian and that's all that matters to me, not some input in who you want me to be.
I value truth and certainly don't hate it. The difference between you and I is that I see the truth and you live in the land of make believe. You with the truth not see it.
Do you call your brethren make believe Albanians if they live overseas or do you call them your best Albanians because they stand by their brothers and sisters at home?
azir, do yourself a favour and stay out of grown up talk.
@Peggy........I thiink make-believe Serbs such as yourself due a dis-service to Serbia and the immediate region with your ingrained hatred of reality and the truth.
If you really wanted what's in the best interest of your people then you would realize the inevitable .......KOSOVA -UN MEMBER and Serbia goes on to a better life in the EU just like you did when you abandoned "your people" for Australia.
All this nonsense from you make-believe Serbs is in your own self interest out of guilt for taking the easy way out.
Shouting off your mouth with out understanding reality and best possible solution for everyone to have peace,harmony and regional stability.
@Peggy you allege Dacic is going to be charged with treason.
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@Azir, no, I did not say he is going to be charged with treason. I said he should be charged with treason.
Do pay attention. I hate repeating myself but it seems with you Albanians we have to because you simply don't get it.
"So that part of word where only 5% of population is Serbian can not be under their rule, Serbia likes it or not there is nothing they can do about it. The most you can do is to delay becoming a member of UN. In that case we will see what kind of price you will pay. For 2012 the inflation was 12%."
(gjon fusha, 16 January 2013 05:09)
Now I understand the Albanian logic: Expel the Serbs, so that there are only 5% left, and then say: They are a small majority. Milosevic's ideas were similar: Expel the Albanians, and then Serbs are the majority.
And what kind of connection between the inflation rate in Serbia and an UN seat for Kosovo exists is something only Albanian economists are able to explain :)
Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 21:30)
You almost got it too.
You forget that Serbia has a modern army going against another ethnicity, Albanians, without any army at all. So that part of word where only 5% of population is Serbian can not be under their rule, Serbia likes it or not there is nothing they can do about it. The most you can do is to delay becoming a member of UN. In that case we will see what kind of price you will pay. For 2012 the inflation was 12%.
"If Serbs had any proof you would of went straight to the Court of International Justice or even the Hague."
Evidence was DESTROYED at one of those courts! They did have evidence. Also many Albanian witnesses who were involved in the transporting and guarding of the kidnapped have given statements on what happened.
Those courts you mentioned have shown they DO NOT PROTECT witnesses when they testify against a side Nato supported.
Look at what happened to all the witnesses (and family members of those witnesses) who were set to testify against Haradinaj.
Those courts you mention are STACKED AGAINST SERBS and exposure of those the West supported.
The West/U.S. has a history of supporting death squads all over the world and they will support tyrants and dictators who are installed by them.
These courts are set up, mainly funded, and mainly controlled by the west which will sabotage any attempt at justice if it goes against their pets.
ALBANIANS ARE THE PETS OF THE WEST. THESE COURTS PROTECT THE BALKAN MUSLIM TOOLS THE WEST BACKED.
@Peggy you allege Dacic is going to be charged with treason.
Please tell us who is leading the allegation,where are the charges going to be filed and who is the leader of this group...is it real Serbs in Serbia or make believe Serbs in the disapora such as Ari Gold,Daniel,Michael C,Canadian-Serb and yourself?
And for your information Albanians don't use "brown paper bags" but LUGGAGES. :)
.............and now he works for us hahahahahaha.........
It's time we charge people le Dadic with treason. This is nothing short of treason. I wonder if someone got to him with a brown paper bag.
(Peggy, 15 January 2013 22:57)
Its easy to live in Australia and give directions to people who live in Serbia or Kosovo.
The funny thing is that serbs from diaspora such as Peggy,MarkC&co advocate that Serbia should enter in Euroasian Union not in EU(EU sinking ship etc.pretexes).
Ironically those "advices" come mostly from serbs who live in the "sinking ship" West and they have no plans to move to "paradise" of Russia or Kazakiztan.
Kosovo is lost forever!The smart thing now is cut the losses ,save what can be saved and move on,and this is exactly what this gonverment( and the previous one) is doing.
China and Russia .China tried to threat Japan with a war,but because America interfered they had to back of ,that means they
are to weak.
Russia tried to stop German Rockets for being based in Turkey,but Germany did despite that, that means Russia is to weak .
So their VETO means nothing to KOSOVO
Nothing to discuss with Albanians. They have a country. It's called Albania. Be happy with what you have, you might one day not even have that if you are to greedy. That's exactly what happened. Albanians fled from the wonderful Enver Hoxha paradise. Were greeted with friendship in Yugoslavia. Given land to live on and cultivate. Started having much more babies than serbs or anyone else. Became majority. Forced the few serbs that didn't want to leave their homes out of their own country and finally claimed it as their own. Kosovo will never become independent unless Serbias incompetent politicians make it a reality. Albanian dream = KiM + southern part of Serbia, parts of Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece. Your greed will be your fall. I s**t you not!!! If you were a truly oppressed people like lets say the Kurds and without a country I would have been on your side. But as it so happens to be you had it all, more right in Kosovo than serbs have/had. Hell, more rights than any ethnic minority in Sweden where I have lived for the past 19 years. You do not deserve Kosovo. You haven't earn't it. And if you really feel like it should belong to you then make an offer. The country of Serbia has invested billions upon billions of dollars on infrastructure, roads, bridges, schools etc. What have you invested? Nothing. Most Albanians in Kosovo were and are to this date unemployeed. You just basically stole what isn't yours. So no negotiation until you behave.
But seriously what is the use of this party if it can't see something that the Serbian people have seen for months now? Even worse if they know what has been going on all this time and kept quiet due to some behind the scenes deal...
(bganon, 15 January 2013 16:44)
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It's becoming evident that the behind the scenes deal went to Dacid and some of his mates.
If Serbia doesnt oppose the membership of Kosovo in UN,what is the pretext of China and Russia?
China and Russia are opposing the membership because of Serbia does so and they have stressed several times,but if Serbia is OK with the membership why Russia and China become more serb than serbs themselves?
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First time I agree with an Albanian 100%.
If Serbs are ready to sell Kosovo then why should Russia and China do anything to stop it?
It's time we charge people le Dadic with treason. This is nothing short of treason. I wonder if someone got to him with a brown paper bag.
...Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
Mutually agreed solution through dialogue & compromise -> UN membership, recognized state.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 21:30)...
It looks that Dacic and K-Alb are heading toward a compromise.
Economic authonomy for North in exchange for Serbia not blocking Kosovo in UN,but not formally recognising it.
Y Russia and China will veto, when Serbia is OK with Kosovo to become e UN member?
Thats what Dacic is saying,give Serbia something,and we can not block u to become e member of UN.
If Dacic and Thaci agree,y Russia and China will veto?
Dacic is really the worst PM that Serbia can possibly have.He has no principles or loyalties or a set core of values but is only interested in power for himself at all costs.
"When North and South Sudan got dovorce did Russia and China veto South Sudan who was "created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state"? NO,because North Sudan was OK with membership of South Sudan. "
(Mirel from Albania, 15 January 2013 19:41)
You almost got it. Because in Sudan, there has been a mutually agreed solution, and not a unilateral independence. There are dozens of countries that don't support unilateral moves by an ethnic minority, like in Kosovo. For the same reason, Montenegro became an UN member without problems. No problem for Czech Republik and Slovakia, neither.
So, in simple words:
Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
Mutually agreed solution through dialogue & compromise -> UN membership, recognized state.
As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 17:37)
You are contradicting yourself Comm. Parrisson. Wouldn't this fall under the "mutually agreed solution" you have been advocating for so long now? Serbia and Kosovo would negotiate and come to an agreement. Kosovo joins the UN, Serbia gets something (it wants partition of the north of course). It would be like in all those other examples solved with mutual agreements, South Sudan being the last. Russia and China themselves oppose it because they say it is "unilateral", according to their definition of this word of course. It would not be "unilateral" anymore.
This later episode shows explicitly once again the hypocrisy of Kostunica when he was talking about "mutually agreed solution". He had no intention of agreeing to anything. Not that we did not know.
...As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 17:37)...
If Serbia doesnt oppose the membership of Kosovo in UN,what is the pretext of China and Russia?
China and Russia are opposing the membership because of Serbia does so and they have stressed several times,but if Serbia is OK with the membership why Russia and China become more serb than serbs themselves?
When North and South Sudan got dovorce did Russia and China veto South Sudan who was "created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state"?NO,because North Sudan was OK with membership of South Sudan.
If China and Russia will veto Kosovo membership in UN,when Serbia is OK with that,Russia and China will become laughing stock in international affairs.
You're missing the point here, maybe put your hate for the DSS aside for a minute and conider this more carefully. By Dacic suggesting that a negotiation of a seat at the UN would be possible then this is more or less a recognition of independence, do you not see this?
Speaking to journalists earlier in the day, Dačić said that "Serbia could discuss a seat for Kosovo in the United Nations, but in that case Priština has to give something too".
I agree he should resign - but for incompetence. As a PM he should know well that Serbia has no say when it comes to a seat for Kosovo in the UN. As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
Hold the press folks, the slowest and most incompetent party in Serbian politics has woken up!
But seriously what is the use of this party if it can't see something that the Serbian people have seen for months now? Even worse if they know what has been going on all this time and kept quiet due to some behind the scenes deal...
...As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 17:37)...
If Serbia doesnt oppose the membership of Kosovo in UN,what is the pretext of China and Russia?
China and Russia are opposing the membership because of Serbia does so and they have stressed several times,but if Serbia is OK with the membership why Russia and China become more serb than serbs themselves?
When North and South Sudan got dovorce did Russia and China veto South Sudan who was "created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state"?NO,because North Sudan was OK with membership of South Sudan.
If China and Russia will veto Kosovo membership in UN,when Serbia is OK with that,Russia and China will become laughing stock in international affairs.
Hold the press folks, the slowest and most incompetent party in Serbian politics has woken up!
But seriously what is the use of this party if it can't see something that the Serbian people have seen for months now? Even worse if they know what has been going on all this time and kept quiet due to some behind the scenes deal...
You're missing the point here, maybe put your hate for the DSS aside for a minute and conider this more carefully. By Dacic suggesting that a negotiation of a seat at the UN would be possible then this is more or less a recognition of independence, do you not see this?
Speaking to journalists earlier in the day, Dačić said that "Serbia could discuss a seat for Kosovo in the United Nations, but in that case Priština has to give something too".
I agree he should resign - but for incompetence. As a PM he should know well that Serbia has no say when it comes to a seat for Kosovo in the UN. As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
Dacic is really the worst PM that Serbia can possibly have.He has no principles or loyalties or a set core of values but is only interested in power for himself at all costs.
If Serbia doesnt oppose the membership of Kosovo in UN,what is the pretext of China and Russia?
China and Russia are opposing the membership because of Serbia does so and they have stressed several times,but if Serbia is OK with the membership why Russia and China become more serb than serbs themselves?
==============================
First time I agree with an Albanian 100%.
If Serbs are ready to sell Kosovo then why should Russia and China do anything to stop it?
It's time we charge people le Dadic with treason. This is nothing short of treason. I wonder if someone got to him with a brown paper bag.
But seriously what is the use of this party if it can't see something that the Serbian people have seen for months now? Even worse if they know what has been going on all this time and kept quiet due to some behind the scenes deal...
(bganon, 15 January 2013 16:44)
==================================
It's becoming evident that the behind the scenes deal went to Dacid and some of his mates.
"When North and South Sudan got dovorce did Russia and China veto South Sudan who was "created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state"? NO,because North Sudan was OK with membership of South Sudan. "
(Mirel from Albania, 15 January 2013 19:41)
You almost got it. Because in Sudan, there has been a mutually agreed solution, and not a unilateral independence. There are dozens of countries that don't support unilateral moves by an ethnic minority, like in Kosovo. For the same reason, Montenegro became an UN member without problems. No problem for Czech Republik and Slovakia, neither.
So, in simple words:
Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
Mutually agreed solution through dialogue & compromise -> UN membership, recognized state.
It's time we charge people le Dadic with treason. This is nothing short of treason. I wonder if someone got to him with a brown paper bag.
(Peggy, 15 January 2013 22:57)
Its easy to live in Australia and give directions to people who live in Serbia or Kosovo.
The funny thing is that serbs from diaspora such as Peggy,MarkC&co advocate that Serbia should enter in Euroasian Union not in EU(EU sinking ship etc.pretexes).
Ironically those "advices" come mostly from serbs who live in the "sinking ship" West and they have no plans to move to "paradise" of Russia or Kazakiztan.
Kosovo is lost forever!The smart thing now is cut the losses ,save what can be saved and move on,and this is exactly what this gonverment( and the previous one) is doing.
...Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
Mutually agreed solution through dialogue & compromise -> UN membership, recognized state.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 21:30)...
It looks that Dacic and K-Alb are heading toward a compromise.
Economic authonomy for North in exchange for Serbia not blocking Kosovo in UN,but not formally recognising it.
Y Russia and China will veto, when Serbia is OK with Kosovo to become e UN member?
Thats what Dacic is saying,give Serbia something,and we can not block u to become e member of UN.
If Dacic and Thaci agree,y Russia and China will veto?
As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 17:37)
You are contradicting yourself Comm. Parrisson. Wouldn't this fall under the "mutually agreed solution" you have been advocating for so long now? Serbia and Kosovo would negotiate and come to an agreement. Kosovo joins the UN, Serbia gets something (it wants partition of the north of course). It would be like in all those other examples solved with mutual agreements, South Sudan being the last. Russia and China themselves oppose it because they say it is "unilateral", according to their definition of this word of course. It would not be "unilateral" anymore.
This later episode shows explicitly once again the hypocrisy of Kostunica when he was talking about "mutually agreed solution". He had no intention of agreeing to anything. Not that we did not know.
China and Russia .China tried to threat Japan with a war,but because America interfered they had to back of ,that means they
are to weak.
Russia tried to stop German Rockets for being based in Turkey,but Germany did despite that, that means Russia is to weak .
So their VETO means nothing to KOSOVO
@Peggy you allege Dacic is going to be charged with treason.
Please tell us who is leading the allegation,where are the charges going to be filed and who is the leader of this group...is it real Serbs in Serbia or make believe Serbs in the disapora such as Ari Gold,Daniel,Michael C,Canadian-Serb and yourself?
And for your information Albanians don't use "brown paper bags" but LUGGAGES. :)
.............and now he works for us hahahahahaha.........
@Peggy........I thiink make-believe Serbs such as yourself due a dis-service to Serbia and the immediate region with your ingrained hatred of reality and the truth.
If you really wanted what's in the best interest of your people then you would realize the inevitable .......KOSOVA -UN MEMBER and Serbia goes on to a better life in the EU just like you did when you abandoned "your people" for Australia.
All this nonsense from you make-believe Serbs is in your own self interest out of guilt for taking the easy way out.
Shouting off your mouth with out understanding reality and best possible solution for everyone to have peace,harmony and regional stability.
Nothing to discuss with Albanians. They have a country. It's called Albania. Be happy with what you have, you might one day not even have that if you are to greedy. That's exactly what happened. Albanians fled from the wonderful Enver Hoxha paradise. Were greeted with friendship in Yugoslavia. Given land to live on and cultivate. Started having much more babies than serbs or anyone else. Became majority. Forced the few serbs that didn't want to leave their homes out of their own country and finally claimed it as their own. Kosovo will never become independent unless Serbias incompetent politicians make it a reality. Albanian dream = KiM + southern part of Serbia, parts of Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece. Your greed will be your fall. I s**t you not!!! If you were a truly oppressed people like lets say the Kurds and without a country I would have been on your side. But as it so happens to be you had it all, more right in Kosovo than serbs have/had. Hell, more rights than any ethnic minority in Sweden where I have lived for the past 19 years. You do not deserve Kosovo. You haven't earn't it. And if you really feel like it should belong to you then make an offer. The country of Serbia has invested billions upon billions of dollars on infrastructure, roads, bridges, schools etc. What have you invested? Nothing. Most Albanians in Kosovo were and are to this date unemployeed. You just basically stole what isn't yours. So no negotiation until you behave.
"If Serbs had any proof you would of went straight to the Court of International Justice or even the Hague."
Evidence was DESTROYED at one of those courts! They did have evidence. Also many Albanian witnesses who were involved in the transporting and guarding of the kidnapped have given statements on what happened.
Those courts you mentioned have shown they DO NOT PROTECT witnesses when they testify against a side Nato supported.
Look at what happened to all the witnesses (and family members of those witnesses) who were set to testify against Haradinaj.
Those courts you mention are STACKED AGAINST SERBS and exposure of those the West supported.
The West/U.S. has a history of supporting death squads all over the world and they will support tyrants and dictators who are installed by them.
These courts are set up, mainly funded, and mainly controlled by the west which will sabotage any attempt at justice if it goes against their pets.
ALBANIANS ARE THE PETS OF THE WEST. THESE COURTS PROTECT THE BALKAN MUSLIM TOOLS THE WEST BACKED.
Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 21:30)
You almost got it too.
You forget that Serbia has a modern army going against another ethnicity, Albanians, without any army at all. So that part of word where only 5% of population is Serbian can not be under their rule, Serbia likes it or not there is nothing they can do about it. The most you can do is to delay becoming a member of UN. In that case we will see what kind of price you will pay. For 2012 the inflation was 12%.
"So that part of word where only 5% of population is Serbian can not be under their rule, Serbia likes it or not there is nothing they can do about it. The most you can do is to delay becoming a member of UN. In that case we will see what kind of price you will pay. For 2012 the inflation was 12%."
(gjon fusha, 16 January 2013 05:09)
Now I understand the Albanian logic: Expel the Serbs, so that there are only 5% left, and then say: They are a small majority. Milosevic's ideas were similar: Expel the Albanians, and then Serbs are the majority.
And what kind of connection between the inflation rate in Serbia and an UN seat for Kosovo exists is something only Albanian economists are able to explain :)
@Peggy you allege Dacic is going to be charged with treason.
=========================
@Azir, no, I did not say he is going to be charged with treason. I said he should be charged with treason.
Do pay attention. I hate repeating myself but it seems with you Albanians we have to because you simply don't get it.
@Peggy........I thiink make-believe Serbs such as yourself due a dis-service to Serbia and the immediate region with your ingrained hatred of reality and the truth.
If you really wanted what's in the best interest of your people then you would realize the inevitable .......KOSOVA -UN MEMBER and Serbia goes on to a better life in the EU just like you did when you abandoned "your people" for Australia.
==========================
azir, it it you who is shooting his mouth off here not us.
You don't know anything about our circumstances and yet you accuse us of abandoning our country.
Many people leave and many families go in their own direction but that doesn't mean we don't care about each other and want the best for each other.
You call me a make believe Serb. What gives you the right to classify me as that? I know I am Serbian and that's all that matters to me, not some input in who you want me to be.
I value truth and certainly don't hate it. The difference between you and I is that I see the truth and you live in the land of make believe. You with the truth not see it.
Do you call your brethren make believe Albanians if they live overseas or do you call them your best Albanians because they stand by their brothers and sisters at home?
azir, do yourself a favour and stay out of grown up talk.
Hold the press folks, the slowest and most incompetent party in Serbian politics has woken up!
But seriously what is the use of this party if it can't see something that the Serbian people have seen for months now? Even worse if they know what has been going on all this time and kept quiet due to some behind the scenes deal...
Speaking to journalists earlier in the day, Dačić said that "Serbia could discuss a seat for Kosovo in the United Nations, but in that case Priština has to give something too".
I agree he should resign - but for incompetence. As a PM he should know well that Serbia has no say when it comes to a seat for Kosovo in the UN. As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
...As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 17:37)...
If Serbia doesnt oppose the membership of Kosovo in UN,what is the pretext of China and Russia?
China and Russia are opposing the membership because of Serbia does so and they have stressed several times,but if Serbia is OK with the membership why Russia and China become more serb than serbs themselves?
When North and South Sudan got dovorce did Russia and China veto South Sudan who was "created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state"?NO,because North Sudan was OK with membership of South Sudan.
If China and Russia will veto Kosovo membership in UN,when Serbia is OK with that,Russia and China will become laughing stock in international affairs.
"When North and South Sudan got dovorce did Russia and China veto South Sudan who was "created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state"? NO,because North Sudan was OK with membership of South Sudan. "
(Mirel from Albania, 15 January 2013 19:41)
You almost got it. Because in Sudan, there has been a mutually agreed solution, and not a unilateral independence. There are dozens of countries that don't support unilateral moves by an ethnic minority, like in Kosovo. For the same reason, Montenegro became an UN member without problems. No problem for Czech Republik and Slovakia, neither.
So, in simple words:
Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
Mutually agreed solution through dialogue & compromise -> UN membership, recognized state.
As long as China and Russia oppose the membership of an 'independent Kosovo' created by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized state, there's nothing to discuss at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 17:37)
You are contradicting yourself Comm. Parrisson. Wouldn't this fall under the "mutually agreed solution" you have been advocating for so long now? Serbia and Kosovo would negotiate and come to an agreement. Kosovo joins the UN, Serbia gets something (it wants partition of the north of course). It would be like in all those other examples solved with mutual agreements, South Sudan being the last. Russia and China themselves oppose it because they say it is "unilateral", according to their definition of this word of course. It would not be "unilateral" anymore.
This later episode shows explicitly once again the hypocrisy of Kostunica when he was talking about "mutually agreed solution". He had no intention of agreeing to anything. Not that we did not know.
@Peggy you allege Dacic is going to be charged with treason.
=========================
@Azir, no, I did not say he is going to be charged with treason. I said he should be charged with treason.
Do pay attention. I hate repeating myself but it seems with you Albanians we have to because you simply don't get it.
If Serbia doesnt oppose the membership of Kosovo in UN,what is the pretext of China and Russia?
China and Russia are opposing the membership because of Serbia does so and they have stressed several times,but if Serbia is OK with the membership why Russia and China become more serb than serbs themselves?
==============================
First time I agree with an Albanian 100%.
If Serbs are ready to sell Kosovo then why should Russia and China do anything to stop it?
It's time we charge people le Dadic with treason. This is nothing short of treason. I wonder if someone got to him with a brown paper bag.
But seriously what is the use of this party if it can't see something that the Serbian people have seen for months now? Even worse if they know what has been going on all this time and kept quiet due to some behind the scenes deal...
(bganon, 15 January 2013 16:44)
==================================
It's becoming evident that the behind the scenes deal went to Dacid and some of his mates.
You're missing the point here, maybe put your hate for the DSS aside for a minute and conider this more carefully. By Dacic suggesting that a negotiation of a seat at the UN would be possible then this is more or less a recognition of independence, do you not see this?
"If Serbs had any proof you would of went straight to the Court of International Justice or even the Hague."
Evidence was DESTROYED at one of those courts! They did have evidence. Also many Albanian witnesses who were involved in the transporting and guarding of the kidnapped have given statements on what happened.
Those courts you mentioned have shown they DO NOT PROTECT witnesses when they testify against a side Nato supported.
Look at what happened to all the witnesses (and family members of those witnesses) who were set to testify against Haradinaj.
Those courts you mention are STACKED AGAINST SERBS and exposure of those the West supported.
The West/U.S. has a history of supporting death squads all over the world and they will support tyrants and dictators who are installed by them.
These courts are set up, mainly funded, and mainly controlled by the west which will sabotage any attempt at justice if it goes against their pets.
ALBANIANS ARE THE PETS OF THE WEST. THESE COURTS PROTECT THE BALKAN MUSLIM TOOLS THE WEST BACKED.
...Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
Mutually agreed solution through dialogue & compromise -> UN membership, recognized state.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 21:30)...
It looks that Dacic and K-Alb are heading toward a compromise.
Economic authonomy for North in exchange for Serbia not blocking Kosovo in UN,but not formally recognising it.
Y Russia and China will veto, when Serbia is OK with Kosovo to become e UN member?
Thats what Dacic is saying,give Serbia something,and we can not block u to become e member of UN.
If Dacic and Thaci agree,y Russia and China will veto?
Nothing to discuss with Albanians. They have a country. It's called Albania. Be happy with what you have, you might one day not even have that if you are to greedy. That's exactly what happened. Albanians fled from the wonderful Enver Hoxha paradise. Were greeted with friendship in Yugoslavia. Given land to live on and cultivate. Started having much more babies than serbs or anyone else. Became majority. Forced the few serbs that didn't want to leave their homes out of their own country and finally claimed it as their own. Kosovo will never become independent unless Serbias incompetent politicians make it a reality. Albanian dream = KiM + southern part of Serbia, parts of Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece. Your greed will be your fall. I s**t you not!!! If you were a truly oppressed people like lets say the Kurds and without a country I would have been on your side. But as it so happens to be you had it all, more right in Kosovo than serbs have/had. Hell, more rights than any ethnic minority in Sweden where I have lived for the past 19 years. You do not deserve Kosovo. You haven't earn't it. And if you really feel like it should belong to you then make an offer. The country of Serbia has invested billions upon billions of dollars on infrastructure, roads, bridges, schools etc. What have you invested? Nothing. Most Albanians in Kosovo were and are to this date unemployeed. You just basically stole what isn't yours. So no negotiation until you behave.
"So that part of word where only 5% of population is Serbian can not be under their rule, Serbia likes it or not there is nothing they can do about it. The most you can do is to delay becoming a member of UN. In that case we will see what kind of price you will pay. For 2012 the inflation was 12%."
(gjon fusha, 16 January 2013 05:09)
Now I understand the Albanian logic: Expel the Serbs, so that there are only 5% left, and then say: They are a small majority. Milosevic's ideas were similar: Expel the Albanians, and then Serbs are the majority.
And what kind of connection between the inflation rate in Serbia and an UN seat for Kosovo exists is something only Albanian economists are able to explain :)
Dacic is really the worst PM that Serbia can possibly have.He has no principles or loyalties or a set core of values but is only interested in power for himself at all costs.
It's time we charge people le Dadic with treason. This is nothing short of treason. I wonder if someone got to him with a brown paper bag.
(Peggy, 15 January 2013 22:57)
Its easy to live in Australia and give directions to people who live in Serbia or Kosovo.
The funny thing is that serbs from diaspora such as Peggy,MarkC&co advocate that Serbia should enter in Euroasian Union not in EU(EU sinking ship etc.pretexes).
Ironically those "advices" come mostly from serbs who live in the "sinking ship" West and they have no plans to move to "paradise" of Russia or Kazakiztan.
Kosovo is lost forever!The smart thing now is cut the losses ,save what can be saved and move on,and this is exactly what this gonverment( and the previous one) is doing.
@Peggy........I thiink make-believe Serbs such as yourself due a dis-service to Serbia and the immediate region with your ingrained hatred of reality and the truth.
If you really wanted what's in the best interest of your people then you would realize the inevitable .......KOSOVA -UN MEMBER and Serbia goes on to a better life in the EU just like you did when you abandoned "your people" for Australia.
All this nonsense from you make-believe Serbs is in your own self interest out of guilt for taking the easy way out.
Shouting off your mouth with out understanding reality and best possible solution for everyone to have peace,harmony and regional stability.
Unilateral moves -> no UN membership, disputed territory forever.
(Comm. Parrisson, 15 January 2013 21:30)
You almost got it too.
You forget that Serbia has a modern army going against another ethnicity, Albanians, without any army at all. So that part of word where only 5% of population is Serbian can not be under their rule, Serbia likes it or not there is nothing they can do about it. The most you can do is to delay becoming a member of UN. In that case we will see what kind of price you will pay. For 2012 the inflation was 12%.
China and Russia .China tried to threat Japan with a war,but because America interfered they had to back of ,that means they
are to weak.
Russia tried to stop German Rockets for being based in Turkey,but Germany did despite that, that means Russia is to weak .
So their VETO means nothing to KOSOVO
@Peggy........I thiink make-believe Serbs such as yourself due a dis-service to Serbia and the immediate region with your ingrained hatred of reality and the truth.
If you really wanted what's in the best interest of your people then you would realize the inevitable .......KOSOVA -UN MEMBER and Serbia goes on to a better life in the EU just like you did when you abandoned "your people" for Australia.
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azir, it it you who is shooting his mouth off here not us.
You don't know anything about our circumstances and yet you accuse us of abandoning our country.
Many people leave and many families go in their own direction but that doesn't mean we don't care about each other and want the best for each other.
You call me a make believe Serb. What gives you the right to classify me as that? I know I am Serbian and that's all that matters to me, not some input in who you want me to be.
I value truth and certainly don't hate it. The difference between you and I is that I see the truth and you live in the land of make believe. You with the truth not see it.
Do you call your brethren make believe Albanians if they live overseas or do you call them your best Albanians because they stand by their brothers and sisters at home?
azir, do yourself a favour and stay out of grown up talk.
@Peggy you allege Dacic is going to be charged with treason.
Please tell us who is leading the allegation,where are the charges going to be filed and who is the leader of this group...is it real Serbs in Serbia or make believe Serbs in the disapora such as Ari Gold,Daniel,Michael C,Canadian-Serb and yourself?
And for your information Albanians don't use "brown paper bags" but LUGGAGES. :)
.............and now he works for us hahahahahaha.........
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