EULEX bans visit of Serbian minister, speaker

It looks like Dacic's and Nikolic's government is dealing with the harsh reality that Kosovo is not a place where they and their people can go whenever they want. Its sad that this current government still continues to hide the truth that Kosovo is lost.

Its sad that this current government still continues to hide the truth that Kosovo is lost.
(Montenegrin, 12 January 2013 13:51)

Kosovo i Metohija is an occupied part of Serbia and you are not "montenegrin".

The only reason Albanians have power to reject is because of the US government (some individuals within the US government). If it didn't have this backing, it could never reject anything. They'd better never piss the US or EU off, otherwise it's back to mules and donkeys.
(Daniel, 12 January 2013 12:39)

Actually the US gov't is trying to close this case for good, thus the reason for added pressure on Serbia. This is also why there is talk of creating a 'kosovo army' but once the only thing that stands between Belgrade and Pristina is this 'army' then things will change for sure.

Since the killings of Serbs will continue for the next while, there will be plenty of opportunities for a pro Serbian gov't in Belgrade to defend its sovereignty in Kosovo i Metohija, the Titoist plague wont infect Serbia forever.

@montenegrin
Kosovo will be lost when there are no more Serbs on this planet!
Until then Kosovo will be Serbian!

Actually, Vulin has been in Mitrovica at least once since Christmas.

So imature! Mixing politics with holiday celebrations. I don't see how this will improve the situation between serbs and albanians. I think the serbs can do some damage to albanians as well if they wanted to. Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there. Two can play this game and I don't know why serbs don't?

"Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there."

we have airplanes now :-)

I love this, next please...

The only reason Albanians have power to reject is because of the US government (some individuals within the US government). If it didn't have this backing, it could never reject anything. They'd better never piss the US or EU off, otherwise it's back to mules and donkeys.

well Daniel, that is undoubtedly true, however, its still enough to make your blood boil isn't it?

"BELGRADE -- EULEX has rejected a request of Serbian Justice Minister Nikola Selaković and parliament Speaker Nebojša Stefanović to visit the province."

And I thought UNMIK cares so much about 'freedom of movement' in Kosovo :)

Nice one!

we have airplanes now :-)

Nikolle

Say that to the thousans of albanians going by car to Kosovo each summer.

So imature! Mixing politics with holiday celebrations. I don't see how this will improve the situation between serbs and albanians. I think the serbs can do some damage to albanians as well if they wanted to. Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there. Two can play this game and I don't know why serbs don't?
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)


Look who's talking about mixing politics with holiday celebration aka religion !? Tadic was the last President that screwed up and he was told 2-3 times before, not to mix politic with religion. Now, you stay where you are or beg Kosova government to let you come for a visit during your late religious calendar holiday.

As far as the planes, Prishtina airport is much busier airport than Belgrade airport during summer season. Coming with cars, is due to volume that cannot meet the demand. This shows that there is so many Albanians, that if everybody returns to your so called southern province, they will takeover Belgrade. It must be very scary for you, if you only think clearly.

Situation today in Kosovo is worst than in Hitler time, pure racist policy.

EULEX is deceiding this. Not the so called Kosovo government.

Question: if some one wants to visit France does the UN or EU deceide on behalf of France?
Nope!

Face the reality: Kosovo is not a state. But still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)

I tell you why Serbia cant close the doors for Albanian diaspora, its because of the money which Serbia desperately needs.

Kosovo i Metohija is an occupied part of Serbia and you are not "montenegrin". (Ari Gold, 12 January 2013 14:30)

Are you telling him that you are Ari Gold? Haha that is funny.
Do you know Ari means Gold in albanian language? But you know that you are fake one, don't you?
When you and some of your compatriots say that Kosova and Metohija is occupied land, are you sugesting that you in some future would like to move 95% of population albanians right now, or 100% of population in that future, from there? Did not Miloshevic and a lot of his predecessors like Rankovich tried that? What makes you thing you can do that in future? Are you telling us that Serbia will be in better position than it was in last 100 years,or you do not know what you talking about?

because kosovo is serbia thats why no serbs are allowed in serbias kosovo lol kosovo will never be serbia again its gone move on......

"Prishtina airport is much busier airport than Belgrade airport during summer season."

Ardi Asllani

You need to get a job and stop daydreaming. Pristina airport busier then Belgrade airport! The only thing busier in Pristina is terrorplaning, drug smugling and human trafficing. You are no different then other albanian liars at this forum. You think anyone besides your mom believes your lies? Why don't you give me a call when you albanians have something to be proud of other then drug smugling and human trafficing.

Nikola Tesla airport passenger 3,363,919
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade_Nikola_Tesla_Airport

Pristina airport Passengers 1,422,302
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristina_Airport

You just need to look at the amount of airlines present at the airport. I rest my case. Why don't you just accept that you suck! At everything.

Oh no :)

EULEX is deceiding this. Not the so called Kosovo government.

Question: if some one wants to visit France does the UN or EU deceide on behalf of France?
Nope!

Face the reality: Kosovo is not a state. But still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!
(Ron, 12 January 2013 17:59)

In fact you are right Ron. Who is wrong is the spokesman.
Is the government of Kosovo indeed that refused to allow Serbian ministers and not EULEX.
EULEX do not have this power in Kosovo.
Why he says EULEX refused the visit? To make some pressure on our mission there. To refuse the reality that Kosovo can allow or refuse anybody visit etc
Propaganda, dizinformacija and so on

So imature! Mixing politics with holiday celebrations. I don't see how this will improve the situation between serbs and albanians.
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)
It is so great to see a Serb who realizes this! Everyone knows these visits are political in nature and the Serb politicians are only using the holidays as a ruse. So disappointing is the fact that they use the Holiest Day of the year to try and advance a political agenda!

Kosovo is INDEPENDENT...now do you believe us? The funny thing about all this is that the entire Balkan is Albanian land to begin with, so I don't understand why serbia is still crying, especially since they have killed so many people in the 90's.

Nikola Tesla airport passenger 3,363,919
[link]

Pristina airport Passengers 1,422,302
[link]

You just need to look at the amount of airlines present at the airport. I rest my case. Why don't you just accept that you suck! At everything.
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 20:53)

Belgrade population 1.2 million, Prishtina 200 000. Belgrade population 6 times of Prishtina but passagers only 2.4 fore times.

I blame the Serbs in part for this situation,they keep making the same mistake of asking permission to visit part of their own Country,just do it and use force if you have to.

Ron, 12 January 2013 17:59)
Maybe you missed the article the other day that explained the process, maybe you chose to ignore it because it does not meet with your agenda, maybe you are naive enough to believe everything you read in Serbian press or maybe you are just too fatigued trying to convince people you are not really a Serb in a western country versus just an independent party interested in "international law".
But the process is the Serbian govt gives the request to EULEX because they will not deal with the Pristina govt, they courier it to Pristina, Pristina gives a thumbs up or thumbs down and EULEX couriers it back to Belgrade with an answer. Then EULEX enforces the ban at the crossing.

Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there. Two can play this game and I don't know why serbs don't?
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)

Most of the Albanien diaspora living in Northern Europe does not drive through Serbia anyway, they prefer to go through Croatia, Montenegro and Albania, and by doing so avaiding to even touch Serbian territory . People still remember what it was like to live amongst Serbs, and it is not a pleasant memory. They simply don't want to spend time in your country, and give them any of their hard earned money.

we have airplanes now :-)

Nikolle

Say that to the thousans of albanians going by car to Kosovo each summer.
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 16:01)

The airspace between Kosovo and Serbia is in some form militarized. This is one of the things that needs to be discussed in the technical dialogue of Kosovo and Serbia. Neither Serbian airplanes can fly through our airspace and vice versa.

To the guy below me:

You do know per CAPITA (per person) Kosovo's airport is WAY busier right? We're talking 8mn v 2mn.

Tung,

"So Vulin was escorted out because he wanted to visit the Serbs who were in custody. "

--Actually he was escorted out because his permit for the visit had expired. In other countries he may actually have been arrested for breaking the law. You can't just go to the police presinct with an expired visa and yell at them. Next time he may be jailed for it.

You get an A for you effort in trying to spin this though. You're a good PR mouthpiece Peggy.

So Vulin was escorted out because he wanted to visit the Serbs who were in custody. In any other country in the world, when a citizen of a certain country is in custody, a member of that country's parliament is never escorted out because they want contact with the prisoner.
"Kosova" must be the only place in the world where such assistance is denied.
It is obvious that "Kosova" is a prison built for the Serbs where the Serbs have no representation or support. The fact that the Serbian government is allowing this is a total disgrace.

So Vulin was escorted out because he wanted to visit the Serbs who were in custody. In any other country in the world, when a citizen of a certain country is in custody, a member of that country's parliament is never escorted out because they want contact with the prisoner.
"Kosova" must be the only place in the world where such assistance is denied.
(Peggy, 13 January 2013 01:28)

First of all, the above is a traitorous statement and it's concerning that it is coming from the only true Serb patriot in these forums. Kosovo is not another country; Kosovo is Serbia.

But even if Kosovo were another country, of course a Serbian prisoner has the right to consular access. Unfortunately, Vulin has not been accredited as Serbia's consul in Kosovo and thus Serbian prisoners do not have any right to have access to him because he is nobody in Kosovo until he is accredited there by the Serbian government and his credentials are accepted by the Kosovo government.

Willi Pfaff

What bs! I drove to Serbia two years ago and at the Horgos border (leaving Serbia) I'll I heard was albanian, at pretty much every gas station and restaurant I heard albanian. So, please, save those lies for someone else.

EULEX is deceiding this. Not the so called Kosovo government.

Question: if some one wants to visit France does the UN or EU deceide on behalf of France?
Nope!

Face the reality: Kosovo is not a state. But still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!
(Ron, 12 January 2013 17:59)

The above could prove that Kosovo is not independent from the UN or EU... but, by your same logic, it also proves that Kosovo is independent from Serbia. Glad to see that you finally got it.

Kosovo is not a place where they and their people can go whenever they want.
("Montenegrin", 12 January 2013 13:51)

Just like Soviet officials couldn't visit, say, Smolensk in 1942. Guess why?

This ban is bad for the good relations between Serbia and the EU. I think that EULEX should be much more flexible. This policy that Serbia should all accept, is not more popular in Serbia.

The only reason Albanians have power to reject is because of the US government (some individuals within the US government). If it didn't have this backing, it could never reject anything. They'd better never piss the US or EU off, otherwise it's back to mules and donkeys.

It looks like Dacic's and Nikolic's government is dealing with the harsh reality that Kosovo is not a place where they and their people can go whenever they want. Its sad that this current government still continues to hide the truth that Kosovo is lost.

@montenegrin
Kosovo will be lost when there are no more Serbs on this planet!
Until then Kosovo will be Serbian!

Its sad that this current government still continues to hide the truth that Kosovo is lost.
(Montenegrin, 12 January 2013 13:51)

Kosovo i Metohija is an occupied part of Serbia and you are not "montenegrin".

Actually, Vulin has been in Mitrovica at least once since Christmas.

Nice one!

The only reason Albanians have power to reject is because of the US government (some individuals within the US government). If it didn't have this backing, it could never reject anything. They'd better never piss the US or EU off, otherwise it's back to mules and donkeys.
(Daniel, 12 January 2013 12:39)

Actually the US gov't is trying to close this case for good, thus the reason for added pressure on Serbia. This is also why there is talk of creating a 'kosovo army' but once the only thing that stands between Belgrade and Pristina is this 'army' then things will change for sure.

Since the killings of Serbs will continue for the next while, there will be plenty of opportunities for a pro Serbian gov't in Belgrade to defend its sovereignty in Kosovo i Metohija, the Titoist plague wont infect Serbia forever.

So imature! Mixing politics with holiday celebrations. I don't see how this will improve the situation between serbs and albanians. I think the serbs can do some damage to albanians as well if they wanted to. Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there. Two can play this game and I don't know why serbs don't?

well Daniel, that is undoubtedly true, however, its still enough to make your blood boil isn't it?

"Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there."

we have airplanes now :-)

EULEX is deceiding this. Not the so called Kosovo government.

Question: if some one wants to visit France does the UN or EU deceide on behalf of France?
Nope!

Face the reality: Kosovo is not a state. But still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!

because kosovo is serbia thats why no serbs are allowed in serbias kosovo lol kosovo will never be serbia again its gone move on......

I love this, next please...

Situation today in Kosovo is worst than in Hitler time, pure racist policy.

we have airplanes now :-)

Nikolle

Say that to the thousans of albanians going by car to Kosovo each summer.

(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)

I tell you why Serbia cant close the doors for Albanian diaspora, its because of the money which Serbia desperately needs.

Kosovo is INDEPENDENT...now do you believe us? The funny thing about all this is that the entire Balkan is Albanian land to begin with, so I don't understand why serbia is still crying, especially since they have killed so many people in the 90's.

"BELGRADE -- EULEX has rejected a request of Serbian Justice Minister Nikola Selaković and parliament Speaker Nebojša Stefanović to visit the province."

And I thought UNMIK cares so much about 'freedom of movement' in Kosovo :)

Kosovo i Metohija is an occupied part of Serbia and you are not "montenegrin". (Ari Gold, 12 January 2013 14:30)

Are you telling him that you are Ari Gold? Haha that is funny.
Do you know Ari means Gold in albanian language? But you know that you are fake one, don't you?
When you and some of your compatriots say that Kosova and Metohija is occupied land, are you sugesting that you in some future would like to move 95% of population albanians right now, or 100% of population in that future, from there? Did not Miloshevic and a lot of his predecessors like Rankovich tried that? What makes you thing you can do that in future? Are you telling us that Serbia will be in better position than it was in last 100 years,or you do not know what you talking about?

So imature! Mixing politics with holiday celebrations. I don't see how this will improve the situation between serbs and albanians. I think the serbs can do some damage to albanians as well if they wanted to. Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there. Two can play this game and I don't know why serbs don't?
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)


Look who's talking about mixing politics with holiday celebration aka religion !? Tadic was the last President that screwed up and he was told 2-3 times before, not to mix politic with religion. Now, you stay where you are or beg Kosova government to let you come for a visit during your late religious calendar holiday.

As far as the planes, Prishtina airport is much busier airport than Belgrade airport during summer season. Coming with cars, is due to volume that cannot meet the demand. This shows that there is so many Albanians, that if everybody returns to your so called southern province, they will takeover Belgrade. It must be very scary for you, if you only think clearly.

"Prishtina airport is much busier airport than Belgrade airport during summer season."

Ardi Asllani

You need to get a job and stop daydreaming. Pristina airport busier then Belgrade airport! The only thing busier in Pristina is terrorplaning, drug smugling and human trafficing. You are no different then other albanian liars at this forum. You think anyone besides your mom believes your lies? Why don't you give me a call when you albanians have something to be proud of other then drug smugling and human trafficing.

Nikola Tesla airport passenger 3,363,919
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade_Nikola_Tesla_Airport

Pristina airport Passengers 1,422,302
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristina_Airport

You just need to look at the amount of airlines present at the airport. I rest my case. Why don't you just accept that you suck! At everything.

So imature! Mixing politics with holiday celebrations. I don't see how this will improve the situation between serbs and albanians.
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)
It is so great to see a Serb who realizes this! Everyone knows these visits are political in nature and the Serb politicians are only using the holidays as a ruse. So disappointing is the fact that they use the Holiest Day of the year to try and advance a political agenda!

Oh no :)

Ron, 12 January 2013 17:59)
Maybe you missed the article the other day that explained the process, maybe you chose to ignore it because it does not meet with your agenda, maybe you are naive enough to believe everything you read in Serbian press or maybe you are just too fatigued trying to convince people you are not really a Serb in a western country versus just an independent party interested in "international law".
But the process is the Serbian govt gives the request to EULEX because they will not deal with the Pristina govt, they courier it to Pristina, Pristina gives a thumbs up or thumbs down and EULEX couriers it back to Belgrade with an answer. Then EULEX enforces the ban at the crossing.

So Vulin was escorted out because he wanted to visit the Serbs who were in custody. In any other country in the world, when a citizen of a certain country is in custody, a member of that country's parliament is never escorted out because they want contact with the prisoner.
"Kosova" must be the only place in the world where such assistance is denied.
It is obvious that "Kosova" is a prison built for the Serbs where the Serbs have no representation or support. The fact that the Serbian government is allowing this is a total disgrace.

Kosovo is not a place where they and their people can go whenever they want.
("Montenegrin", 12 January 2013 13:51)

Just like Soviet officials couldn't visit, say, Smolensk in 1942. Guess why?

This ban is bad for the good relations between Serbia and the EU. I think that EULEX should be much more flexible. This policy that Serbia should all accept, is not more popular in Serbia.

we have airplanes now :-)

Nikolle

Say that to the thousans of albanians going by car to Kosovo each summer.
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 16:01)

The airspace between Kosovo and Serbia is in some form militarized. This is one of the things that needs to be discussed in the technical dialogue of Kosovo and Serbia. Neither Serbian airplanes can fly through our airspace and vice versa.

To the guy below me:

You do know per CAPITA (per person) Kosovo's airport is WAY busier right? We're talking 8mn v 2mn.

Tung,

Nikola Tesla airport passenger 3,363,919
[link]

Pristina airport Passengers 1,422,302
[link]

You just need to look at the amount of airlines present at the airport. I rest my case. Why don't you just accept that you suck! At everything.
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 20:53)

Belgrade population 1.2 million, Prishtina 200 000. Belgrade population 6 times of Prishtina but passagers only 2.4 fore times.

Seal all entrances to Kosovo this summer and all albanians living in Europe visiting Kosovo will have to take a much longer road to get there. Two can play this game and I don't know why serbs don't?
(MikeC, 12 January 2013 13:41)

Most of the Albanien diaspora living in Northern Europe does not drive through Serbia anyway, they prefer to go through Croatia, Montenegro and Albania, and by doing so avaiding to even touch Serbian territory . People still remember what it was like to live amongst Serbs, and it is not a pleasant memory. They simply don't want to spend time in your country, and give them any of their hard earned money.

EULEX is deceiding this. Not the so called Kosovo government.

Question: if some one wants to visit France does the UN or EU deceide on behalf of France?
Nope!

Face the reality: Kosovo is not a state. But still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!
(Ron, 12 January 2013 17:59)

In fact you are right Ron. Who is wrong is the spokesman.
Is the government of Kosovo indeed that refused to allow Serbian ministers and not EULEX.
EULEX do not have this power in Kosovo.
Why he says EULEX refused the visit? To make some pressure on our mission there. To refuse the reality that Kosovo can allow or refuse anybody visit etc
Propaganda, dizinformacija and so on

I blame the Serbs in part for this situation,they keep making the same mistake of asking permission to visit part of their own Country,just do it and use force if you have to.

"So Vulin was escorted out because he wanted to visit the Serbs who were in custody. "

--Actually he was escorted out because his permit for the visit had expired. In other countries he may actually have been arrested for breaking the law. You can't just go to the police presinct with an expired visa and yell at them. Next time he may be jailed for it.

You get an A for you effort in trying to spin this though. You're a good PR mouthpiece Peggy.

Willi Pfaff

What bs! I drove to Serbia two years ago and at the Horgos border (leaving Serbia) I'll I heard was albanian, at pretty much every gas station and restaurant I heard albanian. So, please, save those lies for someone else.

EULEX is deceiding this. Not the so called Kosovo government.

Question: if some one wants to visit France does the UN or EU deceide on behalf of France?
Nope!

Face the reality: Kosovo is not a state. But still is a Serbian province ruled by UN!
(Ron, 12 January 2013 17:59)

The above could prove that Kosovo is not independent from the UN or EU... but, by your same logic, it also proves that Kosovo is independent from Serbia. Glad to see that you finally got it.

So Vulin was escorted out because he wanted to visit the Serbs who were in custody. In any other country in the world, when a citizen of a certain country is in custody, a member of that country's parliament is never escorted out because they want contact with the prisoner.
"Kosova" must be the only place in the world where such assistance is denied.
(Peggy, 13 January 2013 01:28)

First of all, the above is a traitorous statement and it's concerning that it is coming from the only true Serb patriot in these forums. Kosovo is not another country; Kosovo is Serbia.

But even if Kosovo were another country, of course a Serbian prisoner has the right to consular access. Unfortunately, Vulin has not been accredited as Serbia's consul in Kosovo and thus Serbian prisoners do not have any right to have access to him because he is nobody in Kosovo until he is accredited there by the Serbian government and his credentials are accepted by the Kosovo government.