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Thursday, 03.01.2013.

17:48

Dodik: We will not allow Bosnia to recognize Kosovo

President of the Serb Republic (RS) Milorad Dodik that no amount of pressure would force this Serb entity to allow Bosnia-Herzegovina to recognize Kosovo.

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lowe

pre 11 godina

"That is not incompatible with both statements potentially being from the same source since sources could be neutral with both against and pro-Serbian facts.

I was trying to help you mate in your noble role as the fact checker of the B92 forums. I guessed that you would also be interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...", wouldn't you ?
(icj1, 6 January 2013 18:00)"

Well, I would hardly consider CG to be “neutral” when he/she talked only about Serbians ruling Bosnia and nothing about Bosniak Sarajevo ruling Bosnia, and which contradicted Hans’ claim that Bosniak Sarajevo will be ruling Bosnia. So, far from helping Hans, I would submit that you did just the opposite to his/her claim when you actually quoted a source (CG) that contradicted him/her! Talk about a useless help!

And, where did I ever state that I was “interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...",? And even if I were interested, after seeing how you did Hans in while trying to help him/her, I really would think twice about relying on YOU, of all people, for the evidence!

icj1

pre 11 godina

“It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)
(icj1, 5 January 2013 19:20)”

CG was talking about Serbians ruling the whole of Bosnia rather than Bosniak Sarejevo ruling that country as claimed by Hans. But trust you to make a fool of yourself again in your confusion!
(lowe, 6 January 2013 01:07)

That is not incompatible with both statements potentially being from the same source since sources could be neutral with both against and pro-Serbian facts.

I was trying to help you mate in your noble role as the fact checker of the B92 forums. I guessed that you would also be interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...", wouldn't you ?

lowe

pre 11 godina

“It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)
(icj1, 5 January 2013 19:20)”

CG was talking about Serbians ruling the whole of Bosnia rather than Bosniak Sarejevo ruling that country as claimed by Hans. But trust you to make a fool of yourself again in your confusion!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"The so-called Republica Srpska will ultimately cease to exist and will be ruled from Bosniak Sarajevo very soon.
(Hans, 4 January 2013 09:37)"

Really? And "very soon" too? Pray share with us the source and contents of your proof to substantiate your case. And hopefully its a credible one.
(lowe, 5 January 2013 01:17)

It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)

CG

pre 11 godina

We Serbs got our state in the state in Bosnia,called RS,the first Serbian state on the other side of the river Drina,and our enemies can moan,babble,scream,cry and pull their hairs,that is a fact and it will stay that way!

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
Once the Croat is no more in BiH we Serbs will have easy play with Bosniaks!

On my bucket list

pre 11 godina

Can anybody direct me to an Albo forum please, T92, P92 or Albo92?? , if they exist.
Bit of role reversal, just to know what it feels like to be a "hate you all, but deep down I wish I was one of you, which makes me all the more angrier, can't get you out of my mind, overly obsessed pathetic Troll!

lowe

pre 11 godina

"The so-called Republica Srpska will ultimately cease to exist and will be ruled from Bosniak Sarajevo very soon.
(Hans, 4 January 2013 09:37)"

Really? And "very soon" too? Pray share with us the source and contents of your proof to substantiate your case. And hopefully its a credible one.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I am a Serb, but don't usually make comments on B92. From your various statements, over time, it appears that you have never been to Kosovo. Or is it that you are just trying agitate. I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself. If you truly wish peace for our people, I would suggest you tone down your inflammatory rhetoric and try to see Albanians as human beings and not the monsters created by propaganda and myths. Wishing you and yours peace this Christmas season.
(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)
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So albanian terrorist burning down and looting monesterys and churches which is allower youtube is a myth and propaganda right?Just another albanian pretending to be a serb.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

As I have said for a long time, Mr Dodik is one of the rare serbian politicans that knows how to deal with bosnian muslims and k.albs. They only understand the language that is spoken by an iron fist.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...maybe it's time to start asking yourself why you're so happy about being nothing but a colony,..."

its still infinitely better to being a part of Serbia let me tell you.

Simot

pre 11 godina

Aren't you forgetting that Serbian politicians must ask permission of the Govt of Kosova every time they wish to enter Kosova. Now, do YOU see the problem Serbs have?
(The Count of Kosova, 4 January 2013 18:03)

This is a problem of the americans, not the serbs. The americans know that with their mere 7000 soldiers in Camp Bondsteel the last thing they want is the brave men and women from the Serbian army at their gates and the serbian government to create a no fly zone in around and above Kosovo. :D Albanians are a perfect puppet and distraction to take the blame in the American stead for all this landthievery, because they no one, including the americans, cares about them anyway.

It's harsh reality, maybe it's time to start asking yourself why you're so happy about being nothing but a colony, or rather a metaphorical condom that is going to be thrown in the trash once it's been used.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

"Kosova" on the other hand cannot compel Serbia to do anything and Albania can't vote for them.
Do you see the problem you guys have now.
(Peggy, 4 January 2013 08:23)

Peggy dear,

Aren't you forgetting that Serbian politicians must ask permission of the Govt of Kosova every time they wish to enter Kosova. Now, do YOU see the problem Serbs have?

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.
(think about it, 3 January 2013 18:32)

While Albanians are only "comfortable" in an environment where nobody else exist.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"First his current 'project' has to come to a good end, i.e. send those Albanian KLA freedom fighters who were involved in the organ harvesting crime to prison."

surely you mean he has to submit any of his so called evidence first. 2 investigation carried into this already, neither found anything. the EU has challenged mr Marty to hand in his proof, he has refused. soon we're entering year 3 since his so called report, he is still refusing to disclose what he knows

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

" I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself."
(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)

That's good to hear. I hope for you it will stay like that, and for Serbian new year, I wish the percentage of Serbs in Kosovo who made the same experiences will increase. Anyway, all the things I mentioned are part of the reality in Kosovo as well, and no agitation. And it's of course not all Albanians, but a small percentage of nationalists and criminals who commit these deeds. The main problem is not these deeds, but the state of impunity the perpetrators experience in Kosovo, because crimes against Serbs are implicitly tolerated, not only by the population, but by the KPS police as well.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project. "
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

First his current 'project' has to come to a good end, i.e. send those Albanian KLA freedom fighters who were involved in the organ harvesting crime to prison.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"No that's just one opinion not meeting your agreement. Trust me, the world thinks very little of you."

I've always been a fan of people who say trust me, I know what I'm talking about. B92 is full of so called internationals who have been to Kosova and have now apparently seen the light. i very much doubt if most people in the world know what Kosova or Serbia are never mind where they are. it really doesn't matter to me though mr Albanian Math is Funny, however, 3/5 permanent security council members recognize Kosova's statehood and the fact that they do that, is seemingly enough to make your blood boil, otherwise you wouldn't come here and write such nonsense would you? also i'm pretty sure that you yourself come from a country to have extended recognition, so many thanks for that one! come again, we'll make sure to give you a glass of Skenderbeg

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Dodo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo the blind leading the blind Srpska aka greater smaller Serbia threatening again the majority of Bosnian's. Watch out for the cliff poor blind Serbs oops tried to warn them Pro 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)
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Happy now that you got all that off your chest?
Let me clear something up for you.

RS can compel Bosnia not to recognise Kosovo thereby they don't need the right to vote at the UN. It's as good as voting NO.
"Kosova" on the other hand cannot compel Serbia to do anything and Albania can't vote for them.
Do you see the problem you guys have now.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"According to him, "Kosovo has been taken from Serbia" by a violent act of international factors and the international law was thus violated, while Serbia, all Serbs, were humiliated. "

First of all, Dodik should pay more attention to these forums to understand that Kosovo is Serbia and thus avoid making traitorous statements like "Kosovo has been taken from Serbia".

Second, Kosovo's DI was in accordance with international law thanks to the clarification that Vuk tirelessly worked for so nothing was violated as far as international law is concerned.

And third, whether Serbia or all Serbs feel humiliated, that's their business. If people were to care on everything they do who may or may not feel humiliated, nothing would ever get done :)

Simot

pre 11 godina

The fact that albanians consider 98 out of 192 a significant majority speaks volumes about their mentality and politics. And they will never question the circumstances under which recognition took place which, as proven, the Kosovo recognition lobby is a multi-million business funded with drug, organ and other criminal money, american aid, aswell as honest hearts and minds of people who think they are really 'fighting for freedom' as opposed to fulfilling the agenda of their strange leaders and so were fanaticised.

Unlike world governments and their silly nonsense who represent maybe a small group of rich people with succesful political careers (because carreers they are, incomes, not noble lives lived by a certain code of honor or whatever), everyone with an opinion that matters and has done research is aware of the completely ridiculous circumstances and that it all boils down to that if Kosovo would not be recognised, the USA would have not be able to have Camp Bondsteel where it is right now.

(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)
Obviously this is propaganda written by a kosovo albanian. I have daily contact with people there who say the exact opposite of what you say. Same for other places in Kosovo. And regardless what is said, just look at the physical reality of things: hundreds of descacrated cemetaries, monestaries, murders, arsons, and the list goes on.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late
(Rocky, 3 January 2013 21:23)

Don't worry Rocky. You weren't missed and no one really noticed you were gone.
(Bullwinkle, 3 January 2013 23:34

Hello Rocky,

Happy New Year and Gezuar Vitin E Ri.

Don't mind Bulltwinkle, he has to wait one week after Serbian Christmas to celebrate the New Year. As it turns out Serbian New Year is January 13th, the same as Chinese New Year and almost in time for Martin Luther King's birthday. Actually, he was asking about your whereabouts, but everyone ignored him, as usual.

Jo-Jo

pre 11 godina

"Albanians don't recognize your fake/evil republic either."
(Avni, 3 January 2013 19:05)
To late for sentence above my friend. Albo recognize Serbia at time when com from Sicily in city Drach under princ Vojislav in 1042. Please Don't change mind today with fake Turks & Nato 1-st you must see what Serbian did for your people at that time.
Don't be George Maniakes please.

Amer

pre 11 godina

"Whatever it is I have no idea but it's at least something :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 January 2013 23:10) "

Pakistan's recognition is interesting because Pakistan is one of China's few diplomatic allies. North Vietnam is the other country they can usually rely on, and there's no reason to expect recognition from them anytime soon, if that makes you feel better. (Turkey lobbied Pakistan hard for the recognition, but it probably don't have any more influence with North Korea than anybody else does.)

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Dodik: We will not allow Bosnia to recognize Kosovo"

Oh, I know! I know! There's a real quick way for Bosnia to get to recognize "Kosova's independence" asap!!!!!!! -- just let Srpska secede and then both Sarajevo and Pristina can officially and immediately make beautiful music together about "Kosova independence"! See! Its that easy!

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence with the customs deal so why wouldn't Bosnia!
(Brian, 3 January 2013 19:04)"

If anyone wanna look at the delusion of the mind / ostrich sticking its head inside the sand, look no further than Brian's habitual post on this subject!

And Brian has avoided my repeated request (to his/her repeated post on this same subject) for credible evidence (such as a relevant international law or practice) that confirms that a customs agreement means recognition of independence.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

If RS were that irrelevant, you and other Albanians wouldn't be all that upset about Bosnia lack of recognition. As it stands, an "irrelevant" entity is keeping an equally irrelevant entity from gaining another recognition. But cheer up, you got Pakistan's recognition. That's got to count for something. Whatever it is I have no idea but it's at least something :)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"2013 more of the same for Kosova."

not a part of serbia then eh? by the way, discussions on visa free travel are due to start this year :-)..take solace in having Malaysian friends however

Albanian Math is Funny

pre 11 godina

Yes, really! Kosova is, de facto, a part of NATO.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 21:43)

>> You mean NATO occupies you and provides security because you can't. Fair enough but NATO is working and cooperating nicely with Serbia and I can't remember when NATO was really hard on the local Serb population. I also know NATO routinely ignores calls by Albanians in Pristina to exert force on the north. Most KFOR soldiers I know had little patience for you beyond supplying them with cheap prostitutes.

Speaking of funny math, 98 is more than half of 192 countries that recognize Kosova.

>> So it is! Wow you got one thing right in your retort. Good for you. Too bad the majority of those recognitions do nothing for you.

The rest of your statements are wishful thinking and pure speculation.

>> No that's just one opinion not meeting your agreement. Trust me, the world thinks very little of you.

If you remember correctly, during and after the Kosovo war in 1999, your countryman were drinking out of outhouses.

>> I don't really remember that and I take that as a cheap shot by someone attempting to score a point, but I know of the lack of proper sewage systems in Kosovo, not to mention that Albanians basically use anything for a latrine. A pity all that money donated to Europe's most backward region hasn't taught you much in the form of proper hygiene.

Oh and I'm not Serb. It doesn't take a Serb to see how bizarre Albanians can be. It just takes 5 minutes being in Kosovo.

Bullwinkle

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late
(Rocky, 3 January 2013 21:23)

Don't worry Rocky. You weren't missed and no one really noticed you were gone.

sj

pre 11 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 21:43)
Albanian scumbags – that’s all you are and ever will be. Always hiding behind mothers skirts and making threats on behalf of NATO.
Since you live in this magic land called Kosovoa how many industries have been relocated from say Germany to your fairtland? Or perhaps from the UK or US or France????????????????????????????? Hmmmmm now tell us all how many????
NOTHING AT ALL.
How’s the war in Syria going now that the US and other democracies are involved??? Not getting very far? Well why not use the most powerful military on this planet. NATO (note it’s no longer the US alone but the band of brothers)? It because NATO has been thrashed to a standstill in Afghanistan – so much for NATO.
Here is the worst kept secret - NATO cannot do another war, its broke.
The best thing is to keep the status quo of loking like things are changing but going nowhere fast – 2013 more of the same for Kosova.

Comfortable in Pristina

pre 11 godina

About Serbs feeling comfortable: Could anyone feel comfortable in a place where cars are stoned, churches are looted, houses are vandalized, cemeteries desecrated, people attacked and sometimes even killed when they dare to demand their rights and properties from Albanians who stole or usurped it?
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 January 2013 19:05)

Sir,

I am a Serb, but don't usually make comments on B92. From your various statements, over time, it appears that you have never been to Kosovo. Or is it that you are just trying agitate. I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself. If you truly wish peace for our people, I would suggest you tone down your inflammatory rhetoric and try to see Albanians as human beings and not the monsters created by propaganda and myths. Wishing you and yours peace this Christmas season.

KOSOVA

pre 11 godina

war criminals helping war criminals...good for you serbs! O and what about the evil crimes you did in Bosnia... do you also want us to forget that?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.

(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

Actually, Republika Srpska does have a right to vote on all issues concerning the decisions of Bosnia & Herzegovina which is a fully recognized and sovereign nation unlike kosovastan and therefore Bosnians could never recognize their Jihadi brothers for as long as RS decides to uphold this artificial state. Therefore your statement is stupid because if your islamofascist brothers COULD show support to you, they would have a long time ago.

And charge Dodik for what? War crimes? He didn't participate in any war so how the hell could he be tried for war crimes? Do you even know how stupid you sound right now? He should be charged probably for corruption (I support RS's main opposition party the SDS who's campaign slogan is named after Serbia's national anthem) but war crimes? Are you retarded?

Where is our ahead of the curb Western liberal Ian UK to call you out on this bulls***? Funny he only has something to say if its to spread Serbo-phobia on B92 because Albanian cyber friends are the only friends he has.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Now now, with a temper tantrum attitude like that you'll never get him to change his mind :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 January 2013 20:05)

B.A.

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.

ben

pre 11 godina

(Albanian Math is Funny, 3 January 2013 20:08)

dude Pakistan recognized Kosova last week and that is recognition #98.

the majority of the world recognizes Kosova as independent - this is a FACT.

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

Not to mention organ traffickers, drug dealers and terrorists just to name a few! (Haha, 3 January 2013 19:13)

Haha, has been a long time that your joker4RRLN prosecuter did not come out with new facts.
If you like to meet organ traffickers and truly criminals, go to the Hague jails, you will find them.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.
(ben, 3 January 2013 18:37)

Um really? Less than half the world's countries recognize Kosovo.
Of those countries that don't, two are the world's most populous.
And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you.

And even if all of that were false, Kosovo is no closer to the UN, the EU, NATO, or indoor plumbing.
(Albanian Math is Funny, 3 January 2013 20:08)

Funny math,

Yes, really! Kosova is, de facto, a part of NATO. If Kosova is attacked again, the belligerents will be bombed by NATO (again). Anyone foolish enough to try?

Speaking of funny math, 98 is more than half of 192 countries that recognize Kosova.

The rest of your statements are wishful thinking and pure speculation.

If you remember correctly, during and after the Kosovo war in 1999, your countryman were drinking out of outhouses.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late, seems like a lot has been said here. Mr dodo, and believe me you have a great resemblance to one. First of all 98 official recognitions, are on Kosova's side! It looks like Serbia is reaching for the stars on the weight measure, Kosova gets heavier, while Serbia gets lighter! Second, you rs, are but an entity within the country of Bosnia. I would be very careful, if I were in your shoes, those Bosnians have a pretty fresh memory of the barbarity the Serb people inflicted on their unarmed civilian population. Something for you to give a good thought to? Third, the Balkans is not the same place you would hope it to be, like lets say, 25 years ago. Now, back to the republic of Kosova! Just something to think about? i might be getting a little ahead of myself, but the government of Kosova should have a opened mind & possibly keep the door open, to remaining within Serbia, however with some major conditions & guarantees by Serbia, with the major prowers also guaranteeing them, as well! First, Kosova would officially represent the Albanian population of Presevo, Bujonovac, and Medvedja, and Serbia would allow the conjunction of these Albanian inhabited territory's, to the special & guaranteed status area of Kosova! Remember Serbia? You always said more then autonomy & less then republic! I know it might sound crazy to some Albanians but, with the right formula who knows in 20-30 years what can be achieved in Serbia?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you. "

so? does the majority of population in countries that haven't recognized us care about you and know anything about you? i doubt it.
as for RS, it really doesn't matter. Pakistan extended recognition last week, a far more important player than RS can ever imagine itself to be. as for his serbs feeling safe, well, did albanians feel safe under Serbia? serbs in kosova only ever feel safe when they crowd us, well, those days are gone. huddle around a fire and stupid stupid crow songs about obilic like you;re used to doing, that is the kosovo serbs for you. i always forget 250000 expelled out of a population of a 220000...only Serbian statistics

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Wait wait wait, I thought RS was fictitious (right Lenard?)...surely a entity that doesn't exist could not keep a sovereign country of Bosnia i Herzegovina from recognizing their Islamofascist brothers in Kosovo i Metohija?

You read it right Lenard, the RS won't ALLOW Bosnia to 'recognize'. Take that and eat it, ujko.

And Adem, you should really get over the pork thing. Yes we eat pork and nothing happens to us. You really shouldn't so concerned what's on my plate, be concerned why there's not much to speak of on your plate. c

Albanian Math is Funny

pre 11 godina

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.
(ben, 3 January 2013 18:37)

Um really? Less than half the world's countries recognize Kosovo.
Of those countries that don't, two are the world's most populous.
And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you.

And even if all of that were false, Kosovo is no closer to the UN, the EU, NATO, or indoor plumbing.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Now now, with a temper tantrum attitude like that you'll never get him to change his mind :)

Brian M.

pre 11 godina

The solution is obvious. Serbia trades the Albanian-inhabited territory of the Presevo valley for the Serb-inhabited territory of Kosovo north of the Ibar river. Kosovo (including Presevo valley) then goes on as an independent state, or it unites with Albania.

In exchange for recognizing Kosovo's independence and the Albanian people's right to self-determination, Republika Srpska is allowed the same right to secede from Bosnia and form an independent state or join Serbia.

Like it or not, the ethnic cleansing was done 20 years ago. The borders may as well reflect the reality on the ground. Nobody in the Balkans wants to live under the domination of another ethnic group, so the borders ought to conform as closely as possible to where the different ethnic groups live.

KOSO

pre 11 godina

Kinda interested to know how he was pressured as he claims. Just because you got a couple courtesy calls from office assistants asking if you're willing to change your stance does not equal "pressure".

Tung,

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Yes, strange, since Kosovo is build on ethnic cleansing too, they should have something in common.
(J.Oker, 3 January 2013 18:56)

Kosova was an entity of YU with the 1974 Constitution.It did have also a VETO power,its parliament and preident.
RS didnt exist until 1995.
Open the history books and dont listen only to Irenej.

Adem

pre 11 godina

Usual political program from mini-state with maxi-despot.
1. Sell population 1389 hot air fantasy.
2. Son steal all the money.
3. Dad eat pork shashlik breakfast lunch and dinner.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.
(think about it, 3 January 2013 18:32)

I thought about it, and it's because the reality makes him believe so:

About the 'democratic society': You could see the Albanian way of 'democracy' during the last self organized elections: Massive fraud, bought votes, intimidated voters, manipulated elections lists, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% of the voters in his home clan region.

About Serbs feeling comfortable: Could anyone feel comfortable in a place where cars are stoned, churches are looted, houses are vandalized, cemeteries desecrated, people attacked and sometimes even killed when they dare to demand their rights and properties from Albanians who stole or usurped it?

thanasis

pre 11 godina

Well since Bosnia and Hercegovina consists of two political entities and he's the president of one of them, he has a saying on the issue whether you like it or not.

Haha

pre 11 godina

"The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)"

Albanians know all about "scum"!
Not to mention organ traffickers, drug dealers and terrorists just to name a few!

think about it

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.

Dean

pre 11 godina

This guy,Dodik,behave like he is a President of United States of Amerika(or Russia...lol).And the funny part of the story is that he is very Serious.

Radovan

pre 11 godina

"The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17) "

No, the RS that was built as a means of defending itself from Islamofacism/NeoUstasha agressors doesn't allow BIH to recognise KosovO.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Yes, strange, since Kosovo is build on ethnic cleansing too, they should have something in common.

ben

pre 11 godina

We cannot be bothered if a genicide creation will stop an independent nation to recognise us or not.

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.

ben

pre 11 godina

"Nobody mentioned that if Kosovo was reintegrated in Serbia's structure, (ethnic) Albanians would[...] have the right to ask for one of the three most important offices on grounds of constitutionality which could be recognized in their case,"

"Albanian would have to be introduced in parliament as an official language"


uhhhhh what a nightmare...

for a genuin democratic Serbia dedicated to cultural tolerance and multiculturality that is demanding for it's serbians from other countries.

even your political arguments of letting kosova off in one or another form are racist. who the hell wants to have anything to do with such people??

Radovan

pre 11 godina

"The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17) "

No, the RS that was built as a means of defending itself from Islamofacism/NeoUstasha agressors doesn't allow BIH to recognise KosovO.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

Well since Bosnia and Hercegovina consists of two political entities and he's the president of one of them, he has a saying on the issue whether you like it or not.

Haha

pre 11 godina

"The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)"

Albanians know all about "scum"!
Not to mention organ traffickers, drug dealers and terrorists just to name a few!

ben

pre 11 godina

We cannot be bothered if a genicide creation will stop an independent nation to recognise us or not.

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Yes, strange, since Kosovo is build on ethnic cleansing too, they should have something in common.

think about it

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.

Dean

pre 11 godina

This guy,Dodik,behave like he is a President of United States of Amerika(or Russia...lol).And the funny part of the story is that he is very Serious.

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Yes, strange, since Kosovo is build on ethnic cleansing too, they should have something in common.
(J.Oker, 3 January 2013 18:56)

Kosova was an entity of YU with the 1974 Constitution.It did have also a VETO power,its parliament and preident.
RS didnt exist until 1995.
Open the history books and dont listen only to Irenej.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.
(think about it, 3 January 2013 18:32)

I thought about it, and it's because the reality makes him believe so:

About the 'democratic society': You could see the Albanian way of 'democracy' during the last self organized elections: Massive fraud, bought votes, intimidated voters, manipulated elections lists, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% of the voters in his home clan region.

About Serbs feeling comfortable: Could anyone feel comfortable in a place where cars are stoned, churches are looted, houses are vandalized, cemeteries desecrated, people attacked and sometimes even killed when they dare to demand their rights and properties from Albanians who stole or usurped it?

Albanian Math is Funny

pre 11 godina

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.
(ben, 3 January 2013 18:37)

Um really? Less than half the world's countries recognize Kosovo.
Of those countries that don't, two are the world's most populous.
And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you.

And even if all of that were false, Kosovo is no closer to the UN, the EU, NATO, or indoor plumbing.

Comfortable in Pristina

pre 11 godina

About Serbs feeling comfortable: Could anyone feel comfortable in a place where cars are stoned, churches are looted, houses are vandalized, cemeteries desecrated, people attacked and sometimes even killed when they dare to demand their rights and properties from Albanians who stole or usurped it?
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 January 2013 19:05)

Sir,

I am a Serb, but don't usually make comments on B92. From your various statements, over time, it appears that you have never been to Kosovo. Or is it that you are just trying agitate. I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself. If you truly wish peace for our people, I would suggest you tone down your inflammatory rhetoric and try to see Albanians as human beings and not the monsters created by propaganda and myths. Wishing you and yours peace this Christmas season.

KOSOVA

pre 11 godina

war criminals helping war criminals...good for you serbs! O and what about the evil crimes you did in Bosnia... do you also want us to forget that?

ben

pre 11 godina

"Nobody mentioned that if Kosovo was reintegrated in Serbia's structure, (ethnic) Albanians would[...] have the right to ask for one of the three most important offices on grounds of constitutionality which could be recognized in their case,"

"Albanian would have to be introduced in parliament as an official language"


uhhhhh what a nightmare...

for a genuin democratic Serbia dedicated to cultural tolerance and multiculturality that is demanding for it's serbians from other countries.

even your political arguments of letting kosova off in one or another form are racist. who the hell wants to have anything to do with such people??

KOSO

pre 11 godina

Kinda interested to know how he was pressured as he claims. Just because you got a couple courtesy calls from office assistants asking if you're willing to change your stance does not equal "pressure".

Tung,

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Now now, with a temper tantrum attitude like that you'll never get him to change his mind :)

ben

pre 11 godina

(Albanian Math is Funny, 3 January 2013 20:08)

dude Pakistan recognized Kosova last week and that is recognition #98.

the majority of the world recognizes Kosova as independent - this is a FACT.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.

(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

Actually, Republika Srpska does have a right to vote on all issues concerning the decisions of Bosnia & Herzegovina which is a fully recognized and sovereign nation unlike kosovastan and therefore Bosnians could never recognize their Jihadi brothers for as long as RS decides to uphold this artificial state. Therefore your statement is stupid because if your islamofascist brothers COULD show support to you, they would have a long time ago.

And charge Dodik for what? War crimes? He didn't participate in any war so how the hell could he be tried for war crimes? Do you even know how stupid you sound right now? He should be charged probably for corruption (I support RS's main opposition party the SDS who's campaign slogan is named after Serbia's national anthem) but war crimes? Are you retarded?

Where is our ahead of the curb Western liberal Ian UK to call you out on this bulls***? Funny he only has something to say if its to spread Serbo-phobia on B92 because Albanian cyber friends are the only friends he has.

Bullwinkle

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late
(Rocky, 3 January 2013 21:23)

Don't worry Rocky. You weren't missed and no one really noticed you were gone.

Brian M.

pre 11 godina

The solution is obvious. Serbia trades the Albanian-inhabited territory of the Presevo valley for the Serb-inhabited territory of Kosovo north of the Ibar river. Kosovo (including Presevo valley) then goes on as an independent state, or it unites with Albania.

In exchange for recognizing Kosovo's independence and the Albanian people's right to self-determination, Republika Srpska is allowed the same right to secede from Bosnia and form an independent state or join Serbia.

Like it or not, the ethnic cleansing was done 20 years ago. The borders may as well reflect the reality on the ground. Nobody in the Balkans wants to live under the domination of another ethnic group, so the borders ought to conform as closely as possible to where the different ethnic groups live.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Wait wait wait, I thought RS was fictitious (right Lenard?)...surely a entity that doesn't exist could not keep a sovereign country of Bosnia i Herzegovina from recognizing their Islamofascist brothers in Kosovo i Metohija?

You read it right Lenard, the RS won't ALLOW Bosnia to 'recognize'. Take that and eat it, ujko.

And Adem, you should really get over the pork thing. Yes we eat pork and nothing happens to us. You really shouldn't so concerned what's on my plate, be concerned why there's not much to speak of on your plate. c

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you. "

so? does the majority of population in countries that haven't recognized us care about you and know anything about you? i doubt it.
as for RS, it really doesn't matter. Pakistan extended recognition last week, a far more important player than RS can ever imagine itself to be. as for his serbs feeling safe, well, did albanians feel safe under Serbia? serbs in kosova only ever feel safe when they crowd us, well, those days are gone. huddle around a fire and stupid stupid crow songs about obilic like you;re used to doing, that is the kosovo serbs for you. i always forget 250000 expelled out of a population of a 220000...only Serbian statistics

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

If RS were that irrelevant, you and other Albanians wouldn't be all that upset about Bosnia lack of recognition. As it stands, an "irrelevant" entity is keeping an equally irrelevant entity from gaining another recognition. But cheer up, you got Pakistan's recognition. That's got to count for something. Whatever it is I have no idea but it's at least something :)

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late, seems like a lot has been said here. Mr dodo, and believe me you have a great resemblance to one. First of all 98 official recognitions, are on Kosova's side! It looks like Serbia is reaching for the stars on the weight measure, Kosova gets heavier, while Serbia gets lighter! Second, you rs, are but an entity within the country of Bosnia. I would be very careful, if I were in your shoes, those Bosnians have a pretty fresh memory of the barbarity the Serb people inflicted on their unarmed civilian population. Something for you to give a good thought to? Third, the Balkans is not the same place you would hope it to be, like lets say, 25 years ago. Now, back to the republic of Kosova! Just something to think about? i might be getting a little ahead of myself, but the government of Kosova should have a opened mind & possibly keep the door open, to remaining within Serbia, however with some major conditions & guarantees by Serbia, with the major prowers also guaranteeing them, as well! First, Kosova would officially represent the Albanian population of Presevo, Bujonovac, and Medvedja, and Serbia would allow the conjunction of these Albanian inhabited territory's, to the special & guaranteed status area of Kosova! Remember Serbia? You always said more then autonomy & less then republic! I know it might sound crazy to some Albanians but, with the right formula who knows in 20-30 years what can be achieved in Serbia?

sj

pre 11 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 21:43)
Albanian scumbags – that’s all you are and ever will be. Always hiding behind mothers skirts and making threats on behalf of NATO.
Since you live in this magic land called Kosovoa how many industries have been relocated from say Germany to your fairtland? Or perhaps from the UK or US or France????????????????????????????? Hmmmmm now tell us all how many????
NOTHING AT ALL.
How’s the war in Syria going now that the US and other democracies are involved??? Not getting very far? Well why not use the most powerful military on this planet. NATO (note it’s no longer the US alone but the band of brothers)? It because NATO has been thrashed to a standstill in Afghanistan – so much for NATO.
Here is the worst kept secret - NATO cannot do another war, its broke.
The best thing is to keep the status quo of loking like things are changing but going nowhere fast – 2013 more of the same for Kosova.

Adem

pre 11 godina

Usual political program from mini-state with maxi-despot.
1. Sell population 1389 hot air fantasy.
2. Son steal all the money.
3. Dad eat pork shashlik breakfast lunch and dinner.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.
(ben, 3 January 2013 18:37)

Um really? Less than half the world's countries recognize Kosovo.
Of those countries that don't, two are the world's most populous.
And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you.

And even if all of that were false, Kosovo is no closer to the UN, the EU, NATO, or indoor plumbing.
(Albanian Math is Funny, 3 January 2013 20:08)

Funny math,

Yes, really! Kosova is, de facto, a part of NATO. If Kosova is attacked again, the belligerents will be bombed by NATO (again). Anyone foolish enough to try?

Speaking of funny math, 98 is more than half of 192 countries that recognize Kosova.

The rest of your statements are wishful thinking and pure speculation.

If you remember correctly, during and after the Kosovo war in 1999, your countryman were drinking out of outhouses.

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

Not to mention organ traffickers, drug dealers and terrorists just to name a few! (Haha, 3 January 2013 19:13)

Haha, has been a long time that your joker4RRLN prosecuter did not come out with new facts.
If you like to meet organ traffickers and truly criminals, go to the Hague jails, you will find them.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Now now, with a temper tantrum attitude like that you'll never get him to change his mind :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 January 2013 20:05)

B.A.

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"2013 more of the same for Kosova."

not a part of serbia then eh? by the way, discussions on visa free travel are due to start this year :-)..take solace in having Malaysian friends however

Albanian Math is Funny

pre 11 godina

Yes, really! Kosova is, de facto, a part of NATO.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 21:43)

>> You mean NATO occupies you and provides security because you can't. Fair enough but NATO is working and cooperating nicely with Serbia and I can't remember when NATO was really hard on the local Serb population. I also know NATO routinely ignores calls by Albanians in Pristina to exert force on the north. Most KFOR soldiers I know had little patience for you beyond supplying them with cheap prostitutes.

Speaking of funny math, 98 is more than half of 192 countries that recognize Kosova.

>> So it is! Wow you got one thing right in your retort. Good for you. Too bad the majority of those recognitions do nothing for you.

The rest of your statements are wishful thinking and pure speculation.

>> No that's just one opinion not meeting your agreement. Trust me, the world thinks very little of you.

If you remember correctly, during and after the Kosovo war in 1999, your countryman were drinking out of outhouses.

>> I don't really remember that and I take that as a cheap shot by someone attempting to score a point, but I know of the lack of proper sewage systems in Kosovo, not to mention that Albanians basically use anything for a latrine. A pity all that money donated to Europe's most backward region hasn't taught you much in the form of proper hygiene.

Oh and I'm not Serb. It doesn't take a Serb to see how bizarre Albanians can be. It just takes 5 minutes being in Kosovo.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Dodik: We will not allow Bosnia to recognize Kosovo"

Oh, I know! I know! There's a real quick way for Bosnia to get to recognize "Kosova's independence" asap!!!!!!! -- just let Srpska secede and then both Sarajevo and Pristina can officially and immediately make beautiful music together about "Kosova independence"! See! Its that easy!

Simot

pre 11 godina

The fact that albanians consider 98 out of 192 a significant majority speaks volumes about their mentality and politics. And they will never question the circumstances under which recognition took place which, as proven, the Kosovo recognition lobby is a multi-million business funded with drug, organ and other criminal money, american aid, aswell as honest hearts and minds of people who think they are really 'fighting for freedom' as opposed to fulfilling the agenda of their strange leaders and so were fanaticised.

Unlike world governments and their silly nonsense who represent maybe a small group of rich people with succesful political careers (because carreers they are, incomes, not noble lives lived by a certain code of honor or whatever), everyone with an opinion that matters and has done research is aware of the completely ridiculous circumstances and that it all boils down to that if Kosovo would not be recognised, the USA would have not be able to have Camp Bondsteel where it is right now.

(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)
Obviously this is propaganda written by a kosovo albanian. I have daily contact with people there who say the exact opposite of what you say. Same for other places in Kosovo. And regardless what is said, just look at the physical reality of things: hundreds of descacrated cemetaries, monestaries, murders, arsons, and the list goes on.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)
============================
Happy now that you got all that off your chest?
Let me clear something up for you.

RS can compel Bosnia not to recognise Kosovo thereby they don't need the right to vote at the UN. It's as good as voting NO.
"Kosova" on the other hand cannot compel Serbia to do anything and Albania can't vote for them.
Do you see the problem you guys have now.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.
(think about it, 3 January 2013 18:32)

While Albanians are only "comfortable" in an environment where nobody else exist.

Amer

pre 11 godina

"Whatever it is I have no idea but it's at least something :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 January 2013 23:10) "

Pakistan's recognition is interesting because Pakistan is one of China's few diplomatic allies. North Vietnam is the other country they can usually rely on, and there's no reason to expect recognition from them anytime soon, if that makes you feel better. (Turkey lobbied Pakistan hard for the recognition, but it probably don't have any more influence with North Korea than anybody else does.)

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late
(Rocky, 3 January 2013 21:23)

Don't worry Rocky. You weren't missed and no one really noticed you were gone.
(Bullwinkle, 3 January 2013 23:34

Hello Rocky,

Happy New Year and Gezuar Vitin E Ri.

Don't mind Bulltwinkle, he has to wait one week after Serbian Christmas to celebrate the New Year. As it turns out Serbian New Year is January 13th, the same as Chinese New Year and almost in time for Martin Luther King's birthday. Actually, he was asking about your whereabouts, but everyone ignored him, as usual.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence with the customs deal so why wouldn't Bosnia!
(Brian, 3 January 2013 19:04)"

If anyone wanna look at the delusion of the mind / ostrich sticking its head inside the sand, look no further than Brian's habitual post on this subject!

And Brian has avoided my repeated request (to his/her repeated post on this same subject) for credible evidence (such as a relevant international law or practice) that confirms that a customs agreement means recognition of independence.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Dodo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo the blind leading the blind Srpska aka greater smaller Serbia threatening again the majority of Bosnian's. Watch out for the cliff poor blind Serbs oops tried to warn them Pro 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"No that's just one opinion not meeting your agreement. Trust me, the world thinks very little of you."

I've always been a fan of people who say trust me, I know what I'm talking about. B92 is full of so called internationals who have been to Kosova and have now apparently seen the light. i very much doubt if most people in the world know what Kosova or Serbia are never mind where they are. it really doesn't matter to me though mr Albanian Math is Funny, however, 3/5 permanent security council members recognize Kosova's statehood and the fact that they do that, is seemingly enough to make your blood boil, otherwise you wouldn't come here and write such nonsense would you? also i'm pretty sure that you yourself come from a country to have extended recognition, so many thanks for that one! come again, we'll make sure to give you a glass of Skenderbeg

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project. "
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

First his current 'project' has to come to a good end, i.e. send those Albanian KLA freedom fighters who were involved in the organ harvesting crime to prison.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

" I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself."
(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)

That's good to hear. I hope for you it will stay like that, and for Serbian new year, I wish the percentage of Serbs in Kosovo who made the same experiences will increase. Anyway, all the things I mentioned are part of the reality in Kosovo as well, and no agitation. And it's of course not all Albanians, but a small percentage of nationalists and criminals who commit these deeds. The main problem is not these deeds, but the state of impunity the perpetrators experience in Kosovo, because crimes against Serbs are implicitly tolerated, not only by the population, but by the KPS police as well.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"First his current 'project' has to come to a good end, i.e. send those Albanian KLA freedom fighters who were involved in the organ harvesting crime to prison."

surely you mean he has to submit any of his so called evidence first. 2 investigation carried into this already, neither found anything. the EU has challenged mr Marty to hand in his proof, he has refused. soon we're entering year 3 since his so called report, he is still refusing to disclose what he knows

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

"Kosova" on the other hand cannot compel Serbia to do anything and Albania can't vote for them.
Do you see the problem you guys have now.
(Peggy, 4 January 2013 08:23)

Peggy dear,

Aren't you forgetting that Serbian politicians must ask permission of the Govt of Kosova every time they wish to enter Kosova. Now, do YOU see the problem Serbs have?

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I am a Serb, but don't usually make comments on B92. From your various statements, over time, it appears that you have never been to Kosovo. Or is it that you are just trying agitate. I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself. If you truly wish peace for our people, I would suggest you tone down your inflammatory rhetoric and try to see Albanians as human beings and not the monsters created by propaganda and myths. Wishing you and yours peace this Christmas season.
(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)
# Comment link
So albanian terrorist burning down and looting monesterys and churches which is allower youtube is a myth and propaganda right?Just another albanian pretending to be a serb.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"According to him, "Kosovo has been taken from Serbia" by a violent act of international factors and the international law was thus violated, while Serbia, all Serbs, were humiliated. "

First of all, Dodik should pay more attention to these forums to understand that Kosovo is Serbia and thus avoid making traitorous statements like "Kosovo has been taken from Serbia".

Second, Kosovo's DI was in accordance with international law thanks to the clarification that Vuk tirelessly worked for so nothing was violated as far as international law is concerned.

And third, whether Serbia or all Serbs feel humiliated, that's their business. If people were to care on everything they do who may or may not feel humiliated, nothing would ever get done :)

Daniel

pre 11 godina

As I have said for a long time, Mr Dodik is one of the rare serbian politicans that knows how to deal with bosnian muslims and k.albs. They only understand the language that is spoken by an iron fist.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...maybe it's time to start asking yourself why you're so happy about being nothing but a colony,..."

its still infinitely better to being a part of Serbia let me tell you.

CG

pre 11 godina

We Serbs got our state in the state in Bosnia,called RS,the first Serbian state on the other side of the river Drina,and our enemies can moan,babble,scream,cry and pull their hairs,that is a fact and it will stay that way!

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
Once the Croat is no more in BiH we Serbs will have easy play with Bosniaks!

Jo-Jo

pre 11 godina

"Albanians don't recognize your fake/evil republic either."
(Avni, 3 January 2013 19:05)
To late for sentence above my friend. Albo recognize Serbia at time when com from Sicily in city Drach under princ Vojislav in 1042. Please Don't change mind today with fake Turks & Nato 1-st you must see what Serbian did for your people at that time.
Don't be George Maniakes please.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"The so-called Republica Srpska will ultimately cease to exist and will be ruled from Bosniak Sarajevo very soon.
(Hans, 4 January 2013 09:37)"

Really? And "very soon" too? Pray share with us the source and contents of your proof to substantiate your case. And hopefully its a credible one.

Simot

pre 11 godina

Aren't you forgetting that Serbian politicians must ask permission of the Govt of Kosova every time they wish to enter Kosova. Now, do YOU see the problem Serbs have?
(The Count of Kosova, 4 January 2013 18:03)

This is a problem of the americans, not the serbs. The americans know that with their mere 7000 soldiers in Camp Bondsteel the last thing they want is the brave men and women from the Serbian army at their gates and the serbian government to create a no fly zone in around and above Kosovo. :D Albanians are a perfect puppet and distraction to take the blame in the American stead for all this landthievery, because they no one, including the americans, cares about them anyway.

It's harsh reality, maybe it's time to start asking yourself why you're so happy about being nothing but a colony, or rather a metaphorical condom that is going to be thrown in the trash once it's been used.

lowe

pre 11 godina

“It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)
(icj1, 5 January 2013 19:20)”

CG was talking about Serbians ruling the whole of Bosnia rather than Bosniak Sarejevo ruling that country as claimed by Hans. But trust you to make a fool of yourself again in your confusion!

lowe

pre 11 godina

"That is not incompatible with both statements potentially being from the same source since sources could be neutral with both against and pro-Serbian facts.

I was trying to help you mate in your noble role as the fact checker of the B92 forums. I guessed that you would also be interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...", wouldn't you ?
(icj1, 6 January 2013 18:00)"

Well, I would hardly consider CG to be “neutral” when he/she talked only about Serbians ruling Bosnia and nothing about Bosniak Sarajevo ruling Bosnia, and which contradicted Hans’ claim that Bosniak Sarajevo will be ruling Bosnia. So, far from helping Hans, I would submit that you did just the opposite to his/her claim when you actually quoted a source (CG) that contradicted him/her! Talk about a useless help!

And, where did I ever state that I was “interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...",? And even if I were interested, after seeing how you did Hans in while trying to help him/her, I really would think twice about relying on YOU, of all people, for the evidence!

On my bucket list

pre 11 godina

Can anybody direct me to an Albo forum please, T92, P92 or Albo92?? , if they exist.
Bit of role reversal, just to know what it feels like to be a "hate you all, but deep down I wish I was one of you, which makes me all the more angrier, can't get you out of my mind, overly obsessed pathetic Troll!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"The so-called Republica Srpska will ultimately cease to exist and will be ruled from Bosniak Sarajevo very soon.
(Hans, 4 January 2013 09:37)"

Really? And "very soon" too? Pray share with us the source and contents of your proof to substantiate your case. And hopefully its a credible one.
(lowe, 5 January 2013 01:17)

It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)

icj1

pre 11 godina

“It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)
(icj1, 5 January 2013 19:20)”

CG was talking about Serbians ruling the whole of Bosnia rather than Bosniak Sarejevo ruling that country as claimed by Hans. But trust you to make a fool of yourself again in your confusion!
(lowe, 6 January 2013 01:07)

That is not incompatible with both statements potentially being from the same source since sources could be neutral with both against and pro-Serbian facts.

I was trying to help you mate in your noble role as the fact checker of the B92 forums. I guessed that you would also be interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...", wouldn't you ?

ben

pre 11 godina

We cannot be bothered if a genicide creation will stop an independent nation to recognise us or not.

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.

Radovan

pre 11 godina

"The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17) "

No, the RS that was built as a means of defending itself from Islamofacism/NeoUstasha agressors doesn't allow BIH to recognise KosovO.

think about it

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.

Dean

pre 11 godina

This guy,Dodik,behave like he is a President of United States of Amerika(or Russia...lol).And the funny part of the story is that he is very Serious.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Yes, strange, since Kosovo is build on ethnic cleansing too, they should have something in common.

Brian M.

pre 11 godina

The solution is obvious. Serbia trades the Albanian-inhabited territory of the Presevo valley for the Serb-inhabited territory of Kosovo north of the Ibar river. Kosovo (including Presevo valley) then goes on as an independent state, or it unites with Albania.

In exchange for recognizing Kosovo's independence and the Albanian people's right to self-determination, Republika Srpska is allowed the same right to secede from Bosnia and form an independent state or join Serbia.

Like it or not, the ethnic cleansing was done 20 years ago. The borders may as well reflect the reality on the ground. Nobody in the Balkans wants to live under the domination of another ethnic group, so the borders ought to conform as closely as possible to where the different ethnic groups live.

Haha

pre 11 godina

"The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)"

Albanians know all about "scum"!
Not to mention organ traffickers, drug dealers and terrorists just to name a few!

ben

pre 11 godina

"Nobody mentioned that if Kosovo was reintegrated in Serbia's structure, (ethnic) Albanians would[...] have the right to ask for one of the three most important offices on grounds of constitutionality which could be recognized in their case,"

"Albanian would have to be introduced in parliament as an official language"


uhhhhh what a nightmare...

for a genuin democratic Serbia dedicated to cultural tolerance and multiculturality that is demanding for it's serbians from other countries.

even your political arguments of letting kosova off in one or another form are racist. who the hell wants to have anything to do with such people??

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.
(think about it, 3 January 2013 18:32)

I thought about it, and it's because the reality makes him believe so:

About the 'democratic society': You could see the Albanian way of 'democracy' during the last self organized elections: Massive fraud, bought votes, intimidated voters, manipulated elections lists, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% of the voters in his home clan region.

About Serbs feeling comfortable: Could anyone feel comfortable in a place where cars are stoned, churches are looted, houses are vandalized, cemeteries desecrated, people attacked and sometimes even killed when they dare to demand their rights and properties from Albanians who stole or usurped it?

KOSO

pre 11 godina

Kinda interested to know how he was pressured as he claims. Just because you got a couple courtesy calls from office assistants asking if you're willing to change your stance does not equal "pressure".

Tung,

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Yes, strange, since Kosovo is build on ethnic cleansing too, they should have something in common.
(J.Oker, 3 January 2013 18:56)

Kosova was an entity of YU with the 1974 Constitution.It did have also a VETO power,its parliament and preident.
RS didnt exist until 1995.
Open the history books and dont listen only to Irenej.

KOSOVA

pre 11 godina

war criminals helping war criminals...good for you serbs! O and what about the evil crimes you did in Bosnia... do you also want us to forget that?

Bullwinkle

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late
(Rocky, 3 January 2013 21:23)

Don't worry Rocky. You weren't missed and no one really noticed you were gone.

Albanian Math is Funny

pre 11 godina

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.
(ben, 3 January 2013 18:37)

Um really? Less than half the world's countries recognize Kosovo.
Of those countries that don't, two are the world's most populous.
And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you.

And even if all of that were false, Kosovo is no closer to the UN, the EU, NATO, or indoor plumbing.

sj

pre 11 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 21:43)
Albanian scumbags – that’s all you are and ever will be. Always hiding behind mothers skirts and making threats on behalf of NATO.
Since you live in this magic land called Kosovoa how many industries have been relocated from say Germany to your fairtland? Or perhaps from the UK or US or France????????????????????????????? Hmmmmm now tell us all how many????
NOTHING AT ALL.
How’s the war in Syria going now that the US and other democracies are involved??? Not getting very far? Well why not use the most powerful military on this planet. NATO (note it’s no longer the US alone but the band of brothers)? It because NATO has been thrashed to a standstill in Afghanistan – so much for NATO.
Here is the worst kept secret - NATO cannot do another war, its broke.
The best thing is to keep the status quo of loking like things are changing but going nowhere fast – 2013 more of the same for Kosova.

Rocky

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late, seems like a lot has been said here. Mr dodo, and believe me you have a great resemblance to one. First of all 98 official recognitions, are on Kosova's side! It looks like Serbia is reaching for the stars on the weight measure, Kosova gets heavier, while Serbia gets lighter! Second, you rs, are but an entity within the country of Bosnia. I would be very careful, if I were in your shoes, those Bosnians have a pretty fresh memory of the barbarity the Serb people inflicted on their unarmed civilian population. Something for you to give a good thought to? Third, the Balkans is not the same place you would hope it to be, like lets say, 25 years ago. Now, back to the republic of Kosova! Just something to think about? i might be getting a little ahead of myself, but the government of Kosova should have a opened mind & possibly keep the door open, to remaining within Serbia, however with some major conditions & guarantees by Serbia, with the major prowers also guaranteeing them, as well! First, Kosova would officially represent the Albanian population of Presevo, Bujonovac, and Medvedja, and Serbia would allow the conjunction of these Albanian inhabited territory's, to the special & guaranteed status area of Kosova! Remember Serbia? You always said more then autonomy & less then republic! I know it might sound crazy to some Albanians but, with the right formula who knows in 20-30 years what can be achieved in Serbia?

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

the world's majority recognizes Kosova as independet and that's what matters.
(ben, 3 January 2013 18:37)

Um really? Less than half the world's countries recognize Kosovo.
Of those countries that don't, two are the world's most populous.
And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you.

And even if all of that were false, Kosovo is no closer to the UN, the EU, NATO, or indoor plumbing.
(Albanian Math is Funny, 3 January 2013 20:08)

Funny math,

Yes, really! Kosova is, de facto, a part of NATO. If Kosova is attacked again, the belligerents will be bombed by NATO (again). Anyone foolish enough to try?

Speaking of funny math, 98 is more than half of 192 countries that recognize Kosova.

The rest of your statements are wishful thinking and pure speculation.

If you remember correctly, during and after the Kosovo war in 1999, your countryman were drinking out of outhouses.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.

(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

Actually, Republika Srpska does have a right to vote on all issues concerning the decisions of Bosnia & Herzegovina which is a fully recognized and sovereign nation unlike kosovastan and therefore Bosnians could never recognize their Jihadi brothers for as long as RS decides to uphold this artificial state. Therefore your statement is stupid because if your islamofascist brothers COULD show support to you, they would have a long time ago.

And charge Dodik for what? War crimes? He didn't participate in any war so how the hell could he be tried for war crimes? Do you even know how stupid you sound right now? He should be charged probably for corruption (I support RS's main opposition party the SDS who's campaign slogan is named after Serbia's national anthem) but war crimes? Are you retarded?

Where is our ahead of the curb Western liberal Ian UK to call you out on this bulls***? Funny he only has something to say if its to spread Serbo-phobia on B92 because Albanian cyber friends are the only friends he has.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"And I seriously doubt the majority of the population in countries that have recognized know anything about you or care to know anything about you. "

so? does the majority of population in countries that haven't recognized us care about you and know anything about you? i doubt it.
as for RS, it really doesn't matter. Pakistan extended recognition last week, a far more important player than RS can ever imagine itself to be. as for his serbs feeling safe, well, did albanians feel safe under Serbia? serbs in kosova only ever feel safe when they crowd us, well, those days are gone. huddle around a fire and stupid stupid crow songs about obilic like you;re used to doing, that is the kosovo serbs for you. i always forget 250000 expelled out of a population of a 220000...only Serbian statistics

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Now now, with a temper tantrum attitude like that you'll never get him to change his mind :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 January 2013 20:05)

B.A.

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.

Adem

pre 11 godina

Usual political program from mini-state with maxi-despot.
1. Sell population 1389 hot air fantasy.
2. Son steal all the money.
3. Dad eat pork shashlik breakfast lunch and dinner.

thanasis

pre 11 godina

Well since Bosnia and Hercegovina consists of two political entities and he's the president of one of them, he has a saying on the issue whether you like it or not.

ben

pre 11 godina

(Albanian Math is Funny, 3 January 2013 20:08)

dude Pakistan recognized Kosova last week and that is recognition #98.

the majority of the world recognizes Kosova as independent - this is a FACT.

Comfortable in Pristina

pre 11 godina

About Serbs feeling comfortable: Could anyone feel comfortable in a place where cars are stoned, churches are looted, houses are vandalized, cemeteries desecrated, people attacked and sometimes even killed when they dare to demand their rights and properties from Albanians who stole or usurped it?
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 January 2013 19:05)

Sir,

I am a Serb, but don't usually make comments on B92. From your various statements, over time, it appears that you have never been to Kosovo. Or is it that you are just trying agitate. I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself. If you truly wish peace for our people, I would suggest you tone down your inflammatory rhetoric and try to see Albanians as human beings and not the monsters created by propaganda and myths. Wishing you and yours peace this Christmas season.

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

Not to mention organ traffickers, drug dealers and terrorists just to name a few! (Haha, 3 January 2013 19:13)

Haha, has been a long time that your joker4RRLN prosecuter did not come out with new facts.
If you like to meet organ traffickers and truly criminals, go to the Hague jails, you will find them.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

If RS were that irrelevant, you and other Albanians wouldn't be all that upset about Bosnia lack of recognition. As it stands, an "irrelevant" entity is keeping an equally irrelevant entity from gaining another recognition. But cheer up, you got Pakistan's recognition. That's got to count for something. Whatever it is I have no idea but it's at least something :)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"2013 more of the same for Kosova."

not a part of serbia then eh? by the way, discussions on visa free travel are due to start this year :-)..take solace in having Malaysian friends however

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Wait wait wait, I thought RS was fictitious (right Lenard?)...surely a entity that doesn't exist could not keep a sovereign country of Bosnia i Herzegovina from recognizing their Islamofascist brothers in Kosovo i Metohija?

You read it right Lenard, the RS won't ALLOW Bosnia to 'recognize'. Take that and eat it, ujko.

And Adem, you should really get over the pork thing. Yes we eat pork and nothing happens to us. You really shouldn't so concerned what's on my plate, be concerned why there's not much to speak of on your plate. c

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

The RS who was built on genocide and ethnic cleansing, doesnt allow BH to recognise Kosova.
What a scum!
(Mirel from Albania, 3 January 2013 18:17)

Now now, with a temper tantrum attitude like that you'll never get him to change his mind :)

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Dodo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo the blind leading the blind Srpska aka greater smaller Serbia threatening again the majority of Bosnian's. Watch out for the cliff poor blind Serbs oops tried to warn them Pro 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

I am a Serb, but don't usually make comments on B92. From your various statements, over time, it appears that you have never been to Kosovo. Or is it that you are just trying agitate. I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself. If you truly wish peace for our people, I would suggest you tone down your inflammatory rhetoric and try to see Albanians as human beings and not the monsters created by propaganda and myths. Wishing you and yours peace this Christmas season.
(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)
# Comment link
So albanian terrorist burning down and looting monesterys and churches which is allower youtube is a myth and propaganda right?Just another albanian pretending to be a serb.

Albanian Math is Funny

pre 11 godina

Yes, really! Kosova is, de facto, a part of NATO.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 21:43)

>> You mean NATO occupies you and provides security because you can't. Fair enough but NATO is working and cooperating nicely with Serbia and I can't remember when NATO was really hard on the local Serb population. I also know NATO routinely ignores calls by Albanians in Pristina to exert force on the north. Most KFOR soldiers I know had little patience for you beyond supplying them with cheap prostitutes.

Speaking of funny math, 98 is more than half of 192 countries that recognize Kosova.

>> So it is! Wow you got one thing right in your retort. Good for you. Too bad the majority of those recognitions do nothing for you.

The rest of your statements are wishful thinking and pure speculation.

>> No that's just one opinion not meeting your agreement. Trust me, the world thinks very little of you.

If you remember correctly, during and after the Kosovo war in 1999, your countryman were drinking out of outhouses.

>> I don't really remember that and I take that as a cheap shot by someone attempting to score a point, but I know of the lack of proper sewage systems in Kosovo, not to mention that Albanians basically use anything for a latrine. A pity all that money donated to Europe's most backward region hasn't taught you much in the form of proper hygiene.

Oh and I'm not Serb. It doesn't take a Serb to see how bizarre Albanians can be. It just takes 5 minutes being in Kosovo.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

Srbska is irrelevant since it is not recognized as a country by anyone. Therefore, they do not have the right to vote, as a separate country, on anything, including Kosova, at the UN, EU or NATO. The R.S. is still considered a pariah by all civilized countries. Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project.
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)
============================
Happy now that you got all that off your chest?
Let me clear something up for you.

RS can compel Bosnia not to recognise Kosovo thereby they don't need the right to vote at the UN. It's as good as voting NO.
"Kosova" on the other hand cannot compel Serbia to do anything and Albania can't vote for them.
Do you see the problem you guys have now.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Dodik will eventually be tried as a war criminal. That is Dick Marty's next project. "
(The Count of Kosova, 3 January 2013 22:08)

First his current 'project' has to come to a good end, i.e. send those Albanian KLA freedom fighters who were involved in the organ harvesting crime to prison.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"First his current 'project' has to come to a good end, i.e. send those Albanian KLA freedom fighters who were involved in the organ harvesting crime to prison."

surely you mean he has to submit any of his so called evidence first. 2 investigation carried into this already, neither found anything. the EU has challenged mr Marty to hand in his proof, he has refused. soon we're entering year 3 since his so called report, he is still refusing to disclose what he knows

Simot

pre 11 godina

The fact that albanians consider 98 out of 192 a significant majority speaks volumes about their mentality and politics. And they will never question the circumstances under which recognition took place which, as proven, the Kosovo recognition lobby is a multi-million business funded with drug, organ and other criminal money, american aid, aswell as honest hearts and minds of people who think they are really 'fighting for freedom' as opposed to fulfilling the agenda of their strange leaders and so were fanaticised.

Unlike world governments and their silly nonsense who represent maybe a small group of rich people with succesful political careers (because carreers they are, incomes, not noble lives lived by a certain code of honor or whatever), everyone with an opinion that matters and has done research is aware of the completely ridiculous circumstances and that it all boils down to that if Kosovo would not be recognised, the USA would have not be able to have Camp Bondsteel where it is right now.

(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)
Obviously this is propaganda written by a kosovo albanian. I have daily contact with people there who say the exact opposite of what you say. Same for other places in Kosovo. And regardless what is said, just look at the physical reality of things: hundreds of descacrated cemetaries, monestaries, murders, arsons, and the list goes on.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

As I have said for a long time, Mr Dodik is one of the rare serbian politicans that knows how to deal with bosnian muslims and k.albs. They only understand the language that is spoken by an iron fist.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

Hey everyone happy New Years! Sorry I'm a little late
(Rocky, 3 January 2013 21:23)

Don't worry Rocky. You weren't missed and no one really noticed you were gone.
(Bullwinkle, 3 January 2013 23:34

Hello Rocky,

Happy New Year and Gezuar Vitin E Ri.

Don't mind Bulltwinkle, he has to wait one week after Serbian Christmas to celebrate the New Year. As it turns out Serbian New Year is January 13th, the same as Chinese New Year and almost in time for Martin Luther King's birthday. Actually, he was asking about your whereabouts, but everyone ignored him, as usual.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

" I live in Pristina with my family and have never experienced or seen the things you claim. I have the same rights and freedoms as Albanians in Kosovo. I would gladly invite you to come and visit Kosovo to see for yourself."
(Comfortable in Pristina, 3 January 2013 22:38)

That's good to hear. I hope for you it will stay like that, and for Serbian new year, I wish the percentage of Serbs in Kosovo who made the same experiences will increase. Anyway, all the things I mentioned are part of the reality in Kosovo as well, and no agitation. And it's of course not all Albanians, but a small percentage of nationalists and criminals who commit these deeds. The main problem is not these deeds, but the state of impunity the perpetrators experience in Kosovo, because crimes against Serbs are implicitly tolerated, not only by the population, but by the KPS police as well.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence with the customs deal so why wouldn't Bosnia!
(Brian, 3 January 2013 19:04)"

If anyone wanna look at the delusion of the mind / ostrich sticking its head inside the sand, look no further than Brian's habitual post on this subject!

And Brian has avoided my repeated request (to his/her repeated post on this same subject) for credible evidence (such as a relevant international law or practice) that confirms that a customs agreement means recognition of independence.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"According to him, "Kosovo has been taken from Serbia" by a violent act of international factors and the international law was thus violated, while Serbia, all Serbs, were humiliated. "

First of all, Dodik should pay more attention to these forums to understand that Kosovo is Serbia and thus avoid making traitorous statements like "Kosovo has been taken from Serbia".

Second, Kosovo's DI was in accordance with international law thanks to the clarification that Vuk tirelessly worked for so nothing was violated as far as international law is concerned.

And third, whether Serbia or all Serbs feel humiliated, that's their business. If people were to care on everything they do who may or may not feel humiliated, nothing would ever get done :)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"No that's just one opinion not meeting your agreement. Trust me, the world thinks very little of you."

I've always been a fan of people who say trust me, I know what I'm talking about. B92 is full of so called internationals who have been to Kosova and have now apparently seen the light. i very much doubt if most people in the world know what Kosova or Serbia are never mind where they are. it really doesn't matter to me though mr Albanian Math is Funny, however, 3/5 permanent security council members recognize Kosova's statehood and the fact that they do that, is seemingly enough to make your blood boil, otherwise you wouldn't come here and write such nonsense would you? also i'm pretty sure that you yourself come from a country to have extended recognition, so many thanks for that one! come again, we'll make sure to give you a glass of Skenderbeg

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

"does not believe Kosovo Albanians can establish a democratic society in which Serbs would feel comfortable":
That is because Serbs are only "comfortable" in an environment where they have total control!.
(think about it, 3 January 2013 18:32)

While Albanians are only "comfortable" in an environment where nobody else exist.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

"Kosova" on the other hand cannot compel Serbia to do anything and Albania can't vote for them.
Do you see the problem you guys have now.
(Peggy, 4 January 2013 08:23)

Peggy dear,

Aren't you forgetting that Serbian politicians must ask permission of the Govt of Kosova every time they wish to enter Kosova. Now, do YOU see the problem Serbs have?

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Dodik: We will not allow Bosnia to recognize Kosovo"

Oh, I know! I know! There's a real quick way for Bosnia to get to recognize "Kosova's independence" asap!!!!!!! -- just let Srpska secede and then both Sarajevo and Pristina can officially and immediately make beautiful music together about "Kosova independence"! See! Its that easy!

Jo-Jo

pre 11 godina

"Albanians don't recognize your fake/evil republic either."
(Avni, 3 January 2013 19:05)
To late for sentence above my friend. Albo recognize Serbia at time when com from Sicily in city Drach under princ Vojislav in 1042. Please Don't change mind today with fake Turks & Nato 1-st you must see what Serbian did for your people at that time.
Don't be George Maniakes please.

Simot

pre 11 godina

Aren't you forgetting that Serbian politicians must ask permission of the Govt of Kosova every time they wish to enter Kosova. Now, do YOU see the problem Serbs have?
(The Count of Kosova, 4 January 2013 18:03)

This is a problem of the americans, not the serbs. The americans know that with their mere 7000 soldiers in Camp Bondsteel the last thing they want is the brave men and women from the Serbian army at their gates and the serbian government to create a no fly zone in around and above Kosovo. :D Albanians are a perfect puppet and distraction to take the blame in the American stead for all this landthievery, because they no one, including the americans, cares about them anyway.

It's harsh reality, maybe it's time to start asking yourself why you're so happy about being nothing but a colony, or rather a metaphorical condom that is going to be thrown in the trash once it's been used.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"...maybe it's time to start asking yourself why you're so happy about being nothing but a colony,..."

its still infinitely better to being a part of Serbia let me tell you.

Amer

pre 11 godina

"Whatever it is I have no idea but it's at least something :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 January 2013 23:10) "

Pakistan's recognition is interesting because Pakistan is one of China's few diplomatic allies. North Vietnam is the other country they can usually rely on, and there's no reason to expect recognition from them anytime soon, if that makes you feel better. (Turkey lobbied Pakistan hard for the recognition, but it probably don't have any more influence with North Korea than anybody else does.)

On my bucket list

pre 11 godina

Can anybody direct me to an Albo forum please, T92, P92 or Albo92?? , if they exist.
Bit of role reversal, just to know what it feels like to be a "hate you all, but deep down I wish I was one of you, which makes me all the more angrier, can't get you out of my mind, overly obsessed pathetic Troll!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"The so-called Republica Srpska will ultimately cease to exist and will be ruled from Bosniak Sarajevo very soon.
(Hans, 4 January 2013 09:37)"

Really? And "very soon" too? Pray share with us the source and contents of your proof to substantiate your case. And hopefully its a credible one.
(lowe, 5 January 2013 01:17)

It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)

icj1

pre 11 godina

“It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)
(icj1, 5 January 2013 19:20)”

CG was talking about Serbians ruling the whole of Bosnia rather than Bosniak Sarejevo ruling that country as claimed by Hans. But trust you to make a fool of yourself again in your confusion!
(lowe, 6 January 2013 01:07)

That is not incompatible with both statements potentially being from the same source since sources could be neutral with both against and pro-Serbian facts.

I was trying to help you mate in your noble role as the fact checker of the B92 forums. I guessed that you would also be interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...", wouldn't you ?

lowe

pre 11 godina

"The so-called Republica Srpska will ultimately cease to exist and will be ruled from Bosniak Sarajevo very soon.
(Hans, 4 January 2013 09:37)"

Really? And "very soon" too? Pray share with us the source and contents of your proof to substantiate your case. And hopefully its a credible one.

CG

pre 11 godina

We Serbs got our state in the state in Bosnia,called RS,the first Serbian state on the other side of the river Drina,and our enemies can moan,babble,scream,cry and pull their hairs,that is a fact and it will stay that way!

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
Once the Croat is no more in BiH we Serbs will have easy play with Bosniaks!

lowe

pre 11 godina

“It might be from the same sources where this came from:

And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...
(CG, 5 January 2013 14:00)
(icj1, 5 January 2013 19:20)”

CG was talking about Serbians ruling the whole of Bosnia rather than Bosniak Sarejevo ruling that country as claimed by Hans. But trust you to make a fool of yourself again in your confusion!

lowe

pre 11 godina

"That is not incompatible with both statements potentially being from the same source since sources could be neutral with both against and pro-Serbian facts.

I was trying to help you mate in your noble role as the fact checker of the B92 forums. I guessed that you would also be interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...", wouldn't you ?
(icj1, 6 January 2013 18:00)"

Well, I would hardly consider CG to be “neutral” when he/she talked only about Serbians ruling Bosnia and nothing about Bosniak Sarajevo ruling Bosnia, and which contradicted Hans’ claim that Bosniak Sarajevo will be ruling Bosnia. So, far from helping Hans, I would submit that you did just the opposite to his/her claim when you actually quoted a source (CG) that contradicted him/her! Talk about a useless help!

And, where did I ever state that I was “interested to find the evidence for the statement "And the best,longterm whole of Bosnia will be Serbian because Croats are dying out and will be no more till 2030 ...",? And even if I were interested, after seeing how you did Hans in while trying to help him/her, I really would think twice about relying on YOU, of all people, for the evidence!