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Sunday, 30.12.2012.

11:16

Serb entrepreneurs block road near Brnjak crossing

Serb entrepreneurs from Ibarski Kolašin blocked the Zubin Potok-Ribariće road on Sunday morning.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

Dont u ever ask yourself why they didnt have the guts to invade by the ground?
(Daniel, 1 January 2013 20:25)

war was made with guts in 1389 (and even then we all know the result)... not today (we saw in the '90s how the Serbs' wars with guts ended up).

Successful war is done in a way that minimizes the losses while maximizing those of the enemy.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"UNMIK or authorities delegated by UNMIK... Of course, if UNMIK decides to delegate collection to Kosovo Serbs, they can do the collection, as well.

In any case, there is no question that duties must be paid, if applicable - that's the LAW in Kosovo as determined by UNMIK
(icj1, 1 January 2013 22:04)"

So did UNMIK actually delegate anyone or themselves to collect the duties? If not, then the K-Serbs would probably not be wrong to ask that these be collected by Serbs themselves which I think was one of the main points for their demonstration.

Moreover how is this UNMIK document still the sacred and all omnipotent law (as you seemed to claim) when Belgrade and Pristina has already signed an agreement on customs duties?

icj1

pre 11 godina

Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?
(lowe, 31 December 2012 09:35)

UNMIK or authorities delegated by UNMIK... Of course, if UNMIK decides to delegate collection to Kosovo Serbs, they can do the collection, as well.

In any case, there is no question that duties must be paid, if applicable - that's the LAW in Kosovo as determined by UNMIK

icj1

pre 11 godina

To icj1 - that custom zone "Kosovo" was created only to generate troubles. Don't bring UNMIK as excuse here because zone was created under pressure of NATO's carpet bombing.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 10:38)

Not sure what you're trying to say... The fact is that the UNMIK has ruled that in its Direction 2001/8 and everybody, especially Serbs, are strong supporters of UNMIK and recognize it as the only authority in Kosovo.

That's just for your information, because, in any case, it does not matter much if they recognize it or not since UNMIK derives its authority from Russia and China in Vuk's UN, so it does not matter what you, me, Albanians or Serbs think and as long as UNSCR 1244 is in force UNMIK regulations are the LAW in Kosovo regardless of whether they generate "trouble" or not. And I'm sure that Russia and China are not scared by NATO (you have to pay more attention to the CE of B92 forums sj analysis that NATO is all p... and wind).

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 12:42)
And how many Nato soldiers die in Kosovo conflict?????...zero... compared to other Nato involvement around the world........and you guess who did all the ground fighting...??
(justhetruth, 1 January 2013 02:07)

Of course no NATO soldiers died because there were no NATO soldiers fighting on the ground. They had the KLA terrorists to do their dirty work for them all they did was attack from the sky like the cowards they are. Dont u ever ask yourself why they didnt have the guts to invade by the ground?Im so sick of people commenting something they dont have a clue about.

justhetruth

pre 11 godina

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 12:42)
And how many Nato soldiers die in Kosovo conflict?????...zero... compared to other Nato involvement around the world........and you guess who did all the ground fighting...??

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army."

oh no that didn't happen. don't forget, we just ACTED scared for the TV cameras...and it worked! next, we'll make sure to bring the ostrich brigade, they're even more brave. you keep your tanks however, haven't seen one belonging to Serbia in these shores since 1999 :-), our donkeys were far too good them

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

our donkeys did us proud in 1999, they were far more effective than your tanks :-)
(Nikolle, 31 December 2012 10:28)

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?"
(lowe, 31 December 2012 09:35)

I must be UNMIK, because according to UNSC1244 resolution, Kosovo is under temporary UNMIK administration.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27) "

A translator with a sense of humor.
(Amer, 30 December 2012 19:05)

Maybe it's only Kosovarian wording? Just like, in Pristina, mafia godfathers, drug dealers, war criminals and other 'gentlemen' are used to be called 'politicians'?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

yep, as I wrote before, apart from writing derogatory things, what else can you do? nothing. i, meanwhile live in your so called heartland. so again, heavenly-people-reduced-to-internet-warriors, me and other 'Ottoman lackeys living in Kosova :-)...come visit 'your' 'Kosmet' sometime. you can reminisce about past glories.
as for our donkey army, well what to write, our donkeys did us proud in 1999, they were far more effective than your tanks :-)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

To icj1 - that custom zone "Kosovo" was created only to generate troubles. Don't bring UNMIK as excuse here because zone was created under pressure of NATO's carpet bombing.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Kosovo and the eu just needs to arrest all these people or expel them because Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence
(Brian, 30 December 2012 20:16)"

Please provide credible proof to substantiate your claim that Serbia has recognized Kosovo's independence.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"According to UNMIK's Direction 2001/8 commercial goods should be inspected at the boundary crossing points (Brnjak included) to determine if customs duties are applicable and, if so, then collected in a designated collection depot. If no duties are applicable (it depends on the goods), those goods will be clearead to enter Kosovo without having to pay anything. Simple as that...
(icj1, 30 December 2012 19:23) "

Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Meanings are indeed stretched to illogical understandings in the happiest place in the Balkans :)"

this is most true in the northern part :-)

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

you can build your next myth 'round this defeat, kinda like you build all your previous ones
(Nikolle, 30 December 2012 12:48)

The last our defeat with long-term consequences was around 1240, you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot

And to clarify, 138x is the decade of victory, it's just an other "polje".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulikovo_Field

BTW, did I asked already what "Kosovo Pole" does mean in Albanian and why you don't even have your own word for what supposed to be the "heartland" of Albanians? Duh. But "Albanian" does not mean to be a "genius", so I rest my case.

"Kos" means "blackbird" in Southern Russian dialect, that's around Sochi, "Kosovo Pole" = "Field of Blackbirds". Now I have my pants full, the mighty Albanian army will come and take that piece of Albania. We already import air-born donkeys, oh my. A clear sign, Sochi was, is, and always will be Albanian.

http://tinyurl.com/cdccrp8

At least we call that bird "Drozd" in the north, so probably for now Moscow is safe - but who knows, Albanians have a good appetite if it is about stealing territory and kidneys.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

interesting use of the word entrepreneurs, must have a very broad meaning in this case
(Nikolle, 30 December 2012 12:43)

About as flexible a use of the term as "liberals", "parliamentarians", and "democrats" among their Kosovarian compatriots of Albanian ethnicity south of the Ibar. Meanings are indeed stretched to illogical understandings in the happiest place in the Balkans :)

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27)

If thugs south of the Ibar can be called "democrats" and "Europeans", thugs north of it can be called "entrepreneurs" :)

KOSO

pre 11 godina

You don't get to choose to whom you pay your share of taxes. I'm sure an agreement could be arranged that Serbs could pay custom duties to Serb officers only; which they would immediately turn around and forward Kosovo's portion directly to Kosovo's BP officers....OR..You pay them to whomever and shutup, and move on with your life like a good little boy that you are.


Tung,

icj1

pre 11 godina

As for having nothing better to do, why should Serbs have to pay customs duties to Pristina? There is no border crossing, it is an administrative line. It's not like vehicles are entering another country. Serbs in N. of Kosovo do not acknowledge the Albanian authorities, simply because the politicians have buckled under one more time in Brussels.
(ecoman, 30 December 2012 12:39)

Whether you call it a border, administrative line or a nothing is irrelevant. Whether Albanian authorities are acknowledged or not is again irrelevant. Let's just assume that Kosovo is a Serbian province, that the Albanian authorities do not exist and let's call the line with its official name, i.e. "boundary" so we don't have to argue about it...

So, the answer to your question about why should Serbs have to pay customs duties is because UNMIK has ruled so and it is the LAW of the land... not just for Serbs but for people of all ethnicities transporting goods destined to Kosovo (unfortunately UNMIK has not adopted yet Serbs' practice to set rules according to ethnicity because they are hard to enforce).

According to UNMIK's Direction 2001/8 commercial goods should be inspected at the boundary crossing points (Brnjak included) to determine if customs duties are applicable and, if so, then collected in a designated collection depot. If no duties are applicable (it depends on the goods), those goods will be clearead to enter Kosovo without having to pay anything. Simple as that...

Amer

pre 11 godina

"It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27) "

A translator with a sense of humor.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Passenger vehicles are allowed to go through without any problems. The protesting entrepreneurs, who used their trucks and cars to block the road, say they will not suspend the protest until a decision is made not to implement the Brussels agreement at the Brnjak crossing."

Not sure how the blocking of the road will achieve their goals other than making the truck travel from Kosovo to Serbia and viceversa more difficult than it currently is, especially after we heard from other businessmen in North Kosovo that shops there are running short of supplies and the prices are going up because of that... Serbs really have a passion for make life difficult for themselves (assuming that those who blocked the road are indeed Serbs).

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Should KFOR and Kosovo Police now use force against these so-called entrepreneurs, what do you think Dacic? You know for breaking the "law", or are you ppl bunch of hypocrits who think only Albanians in Presheva deserve a beating?
(Pejoni, 30 December 2012 13:45)

Why should these entrepreneurs obey to someone else's law?

Kiko

pre 11 godina

MikeC

Serbs are killed each day you say! Do you have facts or is that a generalization? Same question applies to the Albanians.

This is how stereotypes and myths begin, bc ppl don't give facts but paint bleak pictures and don't report factual reality!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Pejoni

Comon! You compare the glorification of warcriminals to that of peaceful resistance to something they won't accept, Kosovo independence. I haven't heard or seen these protesters glorifying Milosevic, have you? These serbs are not immigrants to Kosovo so their voice should be heard, especially since Pristina has done nothing to calm serb fears from albanian extremists who on a daily basis attack and murder serbs. Look at how serbs live in south Kosovo and you wonder why serbs in the north put up roadblocks. These serbs are nothing short of being heroes. Standing up to the US and to terrorists in Pristina. I hope they continue to fight for their right to live in their homeland, free of outside interfearence and Pristina terror.

Pejoni

pre 11 godina

Should KFOR and Kosovo Police now use force against these so-called entrepreneurs, what do you think Dacic? You know for breaking the "law", or are you ppl bunch of hypocrits who think only Albanians in Presheva deserve a beating?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

EA, I don't think that medical equipment qualifies as crap. As for having nothing better to do, why should Serbs have to pay customs duties to Pristina? There is no border crossing, it is an administrative line. It's not like vehicles are entering another country. Serbs in N. of Kosovo do not acknowledge the Albanian authorities, simply because the politicians have buckled under one more time in Brussels. The next time you or your family needs medical equipment, I do not think you will refer to it as crap.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

With the backing of the Western powers, the Turkish rayas in the Balkans believe that they have free reign now, to do as they please. Till yesterday, the Turkish subjects had no pot to pee in, and today they think they are sophisticated Europeans. Amazing what some handouts will do. In any case, keep blocking those borders, Serbs, you do not give a dinar to the rayas in Pristina. Kosovo is your land.

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

Some Serbs are ignorant about who are the Mongols and "offend" Albanians comparing them to Mongols or even wanting them being sent to Outer Mongolia.

This is indeed ignorance. Mongols are highly gifted, very independent people and many times claimed both Olympic and international math competition medals. Their raids were ruthless - but around the end of 1940-s they apologized to all the calamities their forefathers caused. The evil can't be undone - but unlike Osmanli and their Albanian lackeys- the Mongols do not feel, a formal apology would tarnish their image.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

there there. that's the thing sunshine isn't it, there's nothing else you can do other than write how uneducated Albanians are. well, must be an eternal shame for you that a people so backward, so uncivilized, so uneducated, have managed to built a state inside Serbai's apparent heartland. what use is intelligence if you don't apply it :-) ? what to say? heavenly people 0 Ottoman lackeys 1. don't worry, you can build your next myth 'round this defeat, kinda like you build all your previous ones

EA

pre 11 godina

"They say they will not pay taxes to the Kosovo institutions and that they will pay all taxes to the Serbian state authorities."

It seems that they haven't got anything else to do....It is not about "how hard their life is", "how medical equipments are needed in Serbian populated ares" and all these crap.

EA

pre 11 godina

"They say they will not pay taxes to the Kosovo institutions and that they will pay all taxes to the Serbian state authorities."

It seems that they haven't got anything else to do....It is not about "how hard their life is", "how medical equipments are needed in Serbian populated ares" and all these crap.

Pejoni

pre 11 godina

Should KFOR and Kosovo Police now use force against these so-called entrepreneurs, what do you think Dacic? You know for breaking the "law", or are you ppl bunch of hypocrits who think only Albanians in Presheva deserve a beating?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

there there. that's the thing sunshine isn't it, there's nothing else you can do other than write how uneducated Albanians are. well, must be an eternal shame for you that a people so backward, so uncivilized, so uneducated, have managed to built a state inside Serbai's apparent heartland. what use is intelligence if you don't apply it :-) ? what to say? heavenly people 0 Ottoman lackeys 1. don't worry, you can build your next myth 'round this defeat, kinda like you build all your previous ones

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Pejoni

Comon! You compare the glorification of warcriminals to that of peaceful resistance to something they won't accept, Kosovo independence. I haven't heard or seen these protesters glorifying Milosevic, have you? These serbs are not immigrants to Kosovo so their voice should be heard, especially since Pristina has done nothing to calm serb fears from albanian extremists who on a daily basis attack and murder serbs. Look at how serbs live in south Kosovo and you wonder why serbs in the north put up roadblocks. These serbs are nothing short of being heroes. Standing up to the US and to terrorists in Pristina. I hope they continue to fight for their right to live in their homeland, free of outside interfearence and Pristina terror.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

EA, I don't think that medical equipment qualifies as crap. As for having nothing better to do, why should Serbs have to pay customs duties to Pristina? There is no border crossing, it is an administrative line. It's not like vehicles are entering another country. Serbs in N. of Kosovo do not acknowledge the Albanian authorities, simply because the politicians have buckled under one more time in Brussels. The next time you or your family needs medical equipment, I do not think you will refer to it as crap.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

With the backing of the Western powers, the Turkish rayas in the Balkans believe that they have free reign now, to do as they please. Till yesterday, the Turkish subjects had no pot to pee in, and today they think they are sophisticated Europeans. Amazing what some handouts will do. In any case, keep blocking those borders, Serbs, you do not give a dinar to the rayas in Pristina. Kosovo is your land.

Amer

pre 11 godina

"It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27) "

A translator with a sense of humor.

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

Some Serbs are ignorant about who are the Mongols and "offend" Albanians comparing them to Mongols or even wanting them being sent to Outer Mongolia.

This is indeed ignorance. Mongols are highly gifted, very independent people and many times claimed both Olympic and international math competition medals. Their raids were ruthless - but around the end of 1940-s they apologized to all the calamities their forefathers caused. The evil can't be undone - but unlike Osmanli and their Albanian lackeys- the Mongols do not feel, a formal apology would tarnish their image.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Should KFOR and Kosovo Police now use force against these so-called entrepreneurs, what do you think Dacic? You know for breaking the "law", or are you ppl bunch of hypocrits who think only Albanians in Presheva deserve a beating?
(Pejoni, 30 December 2012 13:45)

Why should these entrepreneurs obey to someone else's law?

Kiko

pre 11 godina

MikeC

Serbs are killed each day you say! Do you have facts or is that a generalization? Same question applies to the Albanians.

This is how stereotypes and myths begin, bc ppl don't give facts but paint bleak pictures and don't report factual reality!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

interesting use of the word entrepreneurs, must have a very broad meaning in this case
(Nikolle, 30 December 2012 12:43)

About as flexible a use of the term as "liberals", "parliamentarians", and "democrats" among their Kosovarian compatriots of Albanian ethnicity south of the Ibar. Meanings are indeed stretched to illogical understandings in the happiest place in the Balkans :)

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27)

If thugs south of the Ibar can be called "democrats" and "Europeans", thugs north of it can be called "entrepreneurs" :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Passenger vehicles are allowed to go through without any problems. The protesting entrepreneurs, who used their trucks and cars to block the road, say they will not suspend the protest until a decision is made not to implement the Brussels agreement at the Brnjak crossing."

Not sure how the blocking of the road will achieve their goals other than making the truck travel from Kosovo to Serbia and viceversa more difficult than it currently is, especially after we heard from other businessmen in North Kosovo that shops there are running short of supplies and the prices are going up because of that... Serbs really have a passion for make life difficult for themselves (assuming that those who blocked the road are indeed Serbs).

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Kosovo and the eu just needs to arrest all these people or expel them because Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence
(Brian, 30 December 2012 20:16)"

Please provide credible proof to substantiate your claim that Serbia has recognized Kosovo's independence.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27) "

A translator with a sense of humor.
(Amer, 30 December 2012 19:05)

Maybe it's only Kosovarian wording? Just like, in Pristina, mafia godfathers, drug dealers, war criminals and other 'gentlemen' are used to be called 'politicians'?

icj1

pre 11 godina

As for having nothing better to do, why should Serbs have to pay customs duties to Pristina? There is no border crossing, it is an administrative line. It's not like vehicles are entering another country. Serbs in N. of Kosovo do not acknowledge the Albanian authorities, simply because the politicians have buckled under one more time in Brussels.
(ecoman, 30 December 2012 12:39)

Whether you call it a border, administrative line or a nothing is irrelevant. Whether Albanian authorities are acknowledged or not is again irrelevant. Let's just assume that Kosovo is a Serbian province, that the Albanian authorities do not exist and let's call the line with its official name, i.e. "boundary" so we don't have to argue about it...

So, the answer to your question about why should Serbs have to pay customs duties is because UNMIK has ruled so and it is the LAW of the land... not just for Serbs but for people of all ethnicities transporting goods destined to Kosovo (unfortunately UNMIK has not adopted yet Serbs' practice to set rules according to ethnicity because they are hard to enforce).

According to UNMIK's Direction 2001/8 commercial goods should be inspected at the boundary crossing points (Brnjak included) to determine if customs duties are applicable and, if so, then collected in a designated collection depot. If no duties are applicable (it depends on the goods), those goods will be clearead to enter Kosovo without having to pay anything. Simple as that...

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

you can build your next myth 'round this defeat, kinda like you build all your previous ones
(Nikolle, 30 December 2012 12:48)

The last our defeat with long-term consequences was around 1240, you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot

And to clarify, 138x is the decade of victory, it's just an other "polje".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulikovo_Field

BTW, did I asked already what "Kosovo Pole" does mean in Albanian and why you don't even have your own word for what supposed to be the "heartland" of Albanians? Duh. But "Albanian" does not mean to be a "genius", so I rest my case.

"Kos" means "blackbird" in Southern Russian dialect, that's around Sochi, "Kosovo Pole" = "Field of Blackbirds". Now I have my pants full, the mighty Albanian army will come and take that piece of Albania. We already import air-born donkeys, oh my. A clear sign, Sochi was, is, and always will be Albanian.

http://tinyurl.com/cdccrp8

At least we call that bird "Drozd" in the north, so probably for now Moscow is safe - but who knows, Albanians have a good appetite if it is about stealing territory and kidneys.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"According to UNMIK's Direction 2001/8 commercial goods should be inspected at the boundary crossing points (Brnjak included) to determine if customs duties are applicable and, if so, then collected in a designated collection depot. If no duties are applicable (it depends on the goods), those goods will be clearead to enter Kosovo without having to pay anything. Simple as that...
(icj1, 30 December 2012 19:23) "

Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?

KOSO

pre 11 godina

You don't get to choose to whom you pay your share of taxes. I'm sure an agreement could be arranged that Serbs could pay custom duties to Serb officers only; which they would immediately turn around and forward Kosovo's portion directly to Kosovo's BP officers....OR..You pay them to whomever and shutup, and move on with your life like a good little boy that you are.


Tung,

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

yep, as I wrote before, apart from writing derogatory things, what else can you do? nothing. i, meanwhile live in your so called heartland. so again, heavenly-people-reduced-to-internet-warriors, me and other 'Ottoman lackeys living in Kosova :-)...come visit 'your' 'Kosmet' sometime. you can reminisce about past glories.
as for our donkey army, well what to write, our donkeys did us proud in 1999, they were far more effective than your tanks :-)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

To icj1 - that custom zone "Kosovo" was created only to generate troubles. Don't bring UNMIK as excuse here because zone was created under pressure of NATO's carpet bombing.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

our donkeys did us proud in 1999, they were far more effective than your tanks :-)
(Nikolle, 31 December 2012 10:28)

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army."

oh no that didn't happen. don't forget, we just ACTED scared for the TV cameras...and it worked! next, we'll make sure to bring the ostrich brigade, they're even more brave. you keep your tanks however, haven't seen one belonging to Serbia in these shores since 1999 :-), our donkeys were far too good them

lowe

pre 11 godina

"UNMIK or authorities delegated by UNMIK... Of course, if UNMIK decides to delegate collection to Kosovo Serbs, they can do the collection, as well.

In any case, there is no question that duties must be paid, if applicable - that's the LAW in Kosovo as determined by UNMIK
(icj1, 1 January 2013 22:04)"

So did UNMIK actually delegate anyone or themselves to collect the duties? If not, then the K-Serbs would probably not be wrong to ask that these be collected by Serbs themselves which I think was one of the main points for their demonstration.

Moreover how is this UNMIK document still the sacred and all omnipotent law (as you seemed to claim) when Belgrade and Pristina has already signed an agreement on customs duties?

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Meanings are indeed stretched to illogical understandings in the happiest place in the Balkans :)"

this is most true in the northern part :-)

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?"
(lowe, 31 December 2012 09:35)

I must be UNMIK, because according to UNSC1244 resolution, Kosovo is under temporary UNMIK administration.

justhetruth

pre 11 godina

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 12:42)
And how many Nato soldiers die in Kosovo conflict?????...zero... compared to other Nato involvement around the world........and you guess who did all the ground fighting...??

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 12:42)
And how many Nato soldiers die in Kosovo conflict?????...zero... compared to other Nato involvement around the world........and you guess who did all the ground fighting...??
(justhetruth, 1 January 2013 02:07)

Of course no NATO soldiers died because there were no NATO soldiers fighting on the ground. They had the KLA terrorists to do their dirty work for them all they did was attack from the sky like the cowards they are. Dont u ever ask yourself why they didnt have the guts to invade by the ground?Im so sick of people commenting something they dont have a clue about.

icj1

pre 11 godina

To icj1 - that custom zone "Kosovo" was created only to generate troubles. Don't bring UNMIK as excuse here because zone was created under pressure of NATO's carpet bombing.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 10:38)

Not sure what you're trying to say... The fact is that the UNMIK has ruled that in its Direction 2001/8 and everybody, especially Serbs, are strong supporters of UNMIK and recognize it as the only authority in Kosovo.

That's just for your information, because, in any case, it does not matter much if they recognize it or not since UNMIK derives its authority from Russia and China in Vuk's UN, so it does not matter what you, me, Albanians or Serbs think and as long as UNSCR 1244 is in force UNMIK regulations are the LAW in Kosovo regardless of whether they generate "trouble" or not. And I'm sure that Russia and China are not scared by NATO (you have to pay more attention to the CE of B92 forums sj analysis that NATO is all p... and wind).

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 11 godina

Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?
(lowe, 31 December 2012 09:35)

UNMIK or authorities delegated by UNMIK... Of course, if UNMIK decides to delegate collection to Kosovo Serbs, they can do the collection, as well.

In any case, there is no question that duties must be paid, if applicable - that's the LAW in Kosovo as determined by UNMIK

icj1

pre 11 godina

Dont u ever ask yourself why they didnt have the guts to invade by the ground?
(Daniel, 1 January 2013 20:25)

war was made with guts in 1389 (and even then we all know the result)... not today (we saw in the '90s how the Serbs' wars with guts ended up).

Successful war is done in a way that minimizes the losses while maximizing those of the enemy.

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

Some Serbs are ignorant about who are the Mongols and "offend" Albanians comparing them to Mongols or even wanting them being sent to Outer Mongolia.

This is indeed ignorance. Mongols are highly gifted, very independent people and many times claimed both Olympic and international math competition medals. Their raids were ruthless - but around the end of 1940-s they apologized to all the calamities their forefathers caused. The evil can't be undone - but unlike Osmanli and their Albanian lackeys- the Mongols do not feel, a formal apology would tarnish their image.

EA

pre 11 godina

"They say they will not pay taxes to the Kosovo institutions and that they will pay all taxes to the Serbian state authorities."

It seems that they haven't got anything else to do....It is not about "how hard their life is", "how medical equipments are needed in Serbian populated ares" and all these crap.

Pejoni

pre 11 godina

Should KFOR and Kosovo Police now use force against these so-called entrepreneurs, what do you think Dacic? You know for breaking the "law", or are you ppl bunch of hypocrits who think only Albanians in Presheva deserve a beating?

ecoman

pre 11 godina

EA, I don't think that medical equipment qualifies as crap. As for having nothing better to do, why should Serbs have to pay customs duties to Pristina? There is no border crossing, it is an administrative line. It's not like vehicles are entering another country. Serbs in N. of Kosovo do not acknowledge the Albanian authorities, simply because the politicians have buckled under one more time in Brussels. The next time you or your family needs medical equipment, I do not think you will refer to it as crap.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

With the backing of the Western powers, the Turkish rayas in the Balkans believe that they have free reign now, to do as they please. Till yesterday, the Turkish subjects had no pot to pee in, and today they think they are sophisticated Europeans. Amazing what some handouts will do. In any case, keep blocking those borders, Serbs, you do not give a dinar to the rayas in Pristina. Kosovo is your land.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Pejoni

Comon! You compare the glorification of warcriminals to that of peaceful resistance to something they won't accept, Kosovo independence. I haven't heard or seen these protesters glorifying Milosevic, have you? These serbs are not immigrants to Kosovo so their voice should be heard, especially since Pristina has done nothing to calm serb fears from albanian extremists who on a daily basis attack and murder serbs. Look at how serbs live in south Kosovo and you wonder why serbs in the north put up roadblocks. These serbs are nothing short of being heroes. Standing up to the US and to terrorists in Pristina. I hope they continue to fight for their right to live in their homeland, free of outside interfearence and Pristina terror.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

there there. that's the thing sunshine isn't it, there's nothing else you can do other than write how uneducated Albanians are. well, must be an eternal shame for you that a people so backward, so uncivilized, so uneducated, have managed to built a state inside Serbai's apparent heartland. what use is intelligence if you don't apply it :-) ? what to say? heavenly people 0 Ottoman lackeys 1. don't worry, you can build your next myth 'round this defeat, kinda like you build all your previous ones

Kiko

pre 11 godina

MikeC

Serbs are killed each day you say! Do you have facts or is that a generalization? Same question applies to the Albanians.

This is how stereotypes and myths begin, bc ppl don't give facts but paint bleak pictures and don't report factual reality!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Passenger vehicles are allowed to go through without any problems. The protesting entrepreneurs, who used their trucks and cars to block the road, say they will not suspend the protest until a decision is made not to implement the Brussels agreement at the Brnjak crossing."

Not sure how the blocking of the road will achieve their goals other than making the truck travel from Kosovo to Serbia and viceversa more difficult than it currently is, especially after we heard from other businessmen in North Kosovo that shops there are running short of supplies and the prices are going up because of that... Serbs really have a passion for make life difficult for themselves (assuming that those who blocked the road are indeed Serbs).

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Should KFOR and Kosovo Police now use force against these so-called entrepreneurs, what do you think Dacic? You know for breaking the "law", or are you ppl bunch of hypocrits who think only Albanians in Presheva deserve a beating?
(Pejoni, 30 December 2012 13:45)

Why should these entrepreneurs obey to someone else's law?

KOSO

pre 11 godina

You don't get to choose to whom you pay your share of taxes. I'm sure an agreement could be arranged that Serbs could pay custom duties to Serb officers only; which they would immediately turn around and forward Kosovo's portion directly to Kosovo's BP officers....OR..You pay them to whomever and shutup, and move on with your life like a good little boy that you are.


Tung,

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27)

If thugs south of the Ibar can be called "democrats" and "Europeans", thugs north of it can be called "entrepreneurs" :)

Amer

pre 11 godina

"It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27) "

A translator with a sense of humor.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

interesting use of the word entrepreneurs, must have a very broad meaning in this case
(Nikolle, 30 December 2012 12:43)

About as flexible a use of the term as "liberals", "parliamentarians", and "democrats" among their Kosovarian compatriots of Albanian ethnicity south of the Ibar. Meanings are indeed stretched to illogical understandings in the happiest place in the Balkans :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

As for having nothing better to do, why should Serbs have to pay customs duties to Pristina? There is no border crossing, it is an administrative line. It's not like vehicles are entering another country. Serbs in N. of Kosovo do not acknowledge the Albanian authorities, simply because the politicians have buckled under one more time in Brussels.
(ecoman, 30 December 2012 12:39)

Whether you call it a border, administrative line or a nothing is irrelevant. Whether Albanian authorities are acknowledged or not is again irrelevant. Let's just assume that Kosovo is a Serbian province, that the Albanian authorities do not exist and let's call the line with its official name, i.e. "boundary" so we don't have to argue about it...

So, the answer to your question about why should Serbs have to pay customs duties is because UNMIK has ruled so and it is the LAW of the land... not just for Serbs but for people of all ethnicities transporting goods destined to Kosovo (unfortunately UNMIK has not adopted yet Serbs' practice to set rules according to ethnicity because they are hard to enforce).

According to UNMIK's Direction 2001/8 commercial goods should be inspected at the boundary crossing points (Brnjak included) to determine if customs duties are applicable and, if so, then collected in a designated collection depot. If no duties are applicable (it depends on the goods), those goods will be clearead to enter Kosovo without having to pay anything. Simple as that...

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

yep, as I wrote before, apart from writing derogatory things, what else can you do? nothing. i, meanwhile live in your so called heartland. so again, heavenly-people-reduced-to-internet-warriors, me and other 'Ottoman lackeys living in Kosova :-)...come visit 'your' 'Kosmet' sometime. you can reminisce about past glories.
as for our donkey army, well what to write, our donkeys did us proud in 1999, they were far more effective than your tanks :-)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

our donkeys did us proud in 1999, they were far more effective than your tanks :-)
(Nikolle, 31 December 2012 10:28)

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

you can build your next myth 'round this defeat, kinda like you build all your previous ones
(Nikolle, 30 December 2012 12:48)

The last our defeat with long-term consequences was around 1240, you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot

And to clarify, 138x is the decade of victory, it's just an other "polje".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulikovo_Field

BTW, did I asked already what "Kosovo Pole" does mean in Albanian and why you don't even have your own word for what supposed to be the "heartland" of Albanians? Duh. But "Albanian" does not mean to be a "genius", so I rest my case.

"Kos" means "blackbird" in Southern Russian dialect, that's around Sochi, "Kosovo Pole" = "Field of Blackbirds". Now I have my pants full, the mighty Albanian army will come and take that piece of Albania. We already import air-born donkeys, oh my. A clear sign, Sochi was, is, and always will be Albanian.

http://tinyurl.com/cdccrp8

At least we call that bird "Drozd" in the north, so probably for now Moscow is safe - but who knows, Albanians have a good appetite if it is about stealing territory and kidneys.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Meanings are indeed stretched to illogical understandings in the happiest place in the Balkans :)"

this is most true in the northern part :-)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

To icj1 - that custom zone "Kosovo" was created only to generate troubles. Don't bring UNMIK as excuse here because zone was created under pressure of NATO's carpet bombing.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"It is beyond beliefs, how these these thugs are called "entrepreneurs"! Who's idea is that?
(Ardi Asllani, 30 December 2012 13:27) "

A translator with a sense of humor.
(Amer, 30 December 2012 19:05)

Maybe it's only Kosovarian wording? Just like, in Pristina, mafia godfathers, drug dealers, war criminals and other 'gentlemen' are used to be called 'politicians'?

lowe

pre 11 godina

"Kosovo and the eu just needs to arrest all these people or expel them because Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence
(Brian, 30 December 2012 20:16)"

Please provide credible proof to substantiate your claim that Serbia has recognized Kosovo's independence.

lowe

pre 11 godina

"According to UNMIK's Direction 2001/8 commercial goods should be inspected at the boundary crossing points (Brnjak included) to determine if customs duties are applicable and, if so, then collected in a designated collection depot. If no duties are applicable (it depends on the goods), those goods will be clearead to enter Kosovo without having to pay anything. Simple as that...
(icj1, 30 December 2012 19:23) "

Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?"
(lowe, 31 December 2012 09:35)

I must be UNMIK, because according to UNSC1244 resolution, Kosovo is under temporary UNMIK administration.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army."

oh no that didn't happen. don't forget, we just ACTED scared for the TV cameras...and it worked! next, we'll make sure to bring the ostrich brigade, they're even more brave. you keep your tanks however, haven't seen one belonging to Serbia in these shores since 1999 :-), our donkeys were far too good them

justhetruth

pre 11 godina

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 12:42)
And how many Nato soldiers die in Kosovo conflict?????...zero... compared to other Nato involvement around the world........and you guess who did all the ground fighting...??

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Your donkeys were leaving Kosovo in 1999 hiding among civilian polulation (thus putting them on troubles), hoping on NATO help instead of fighting with Serbian army.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 12:42)
And how many Nato soldiers die in Kosovo conflict?????...zero... compared to other Nato involvement around the world........and you guess who did all the ground fighting...??
(justhetruth, 1 January 2013 02:07)

Of course no NATO soldiers died because there were no NATO soldiers fighting on the ground. They had the KLA terrorists to do their dirty work for them all they did was attack from the sky like the cowards they are. Dont u ever ask yourself why they didnt have the guts to invade by the ground?Im so sick of people commenting something they dont have a clue about.

icj1

pre 11 godina

To icj1 - that custom zone "Kosovo" was created only to generate troubles. Don't bring UNMIK as excuse here because zone was created under pressure of NATO's carpet bombing.
(aaayyy, 31 December 2012 10:38)

Not sure what you're trying to say... The fact is that the UNMIK has ruled that in its Direction 2001/8 and everybody, especially Serbs, are strong supporters of UNMIK and recognize it as the only authority in Kosovo.

That's just for your information, because, in any case, it does not matter much if they recognize it or not since UNMIK derives its authority from Russia and China in Vuk's UN, so it does not matter what you, me, Albanians or Serbs think and as long as UNSCR 1244 is in force UNMIK regulations are the LAW in Kosovo regardless of whether they generate "trouble" or not. And I'm sure that Russia and China are not scared by NATO (you have to pay more attention to the CE of B92 forums sj analysis that NATO is all p... and wind).

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 11 godina

Did UNMIK specify who should collect the duties? ie. Pristina or UNMIK or Kosovo Serbs or someone else?
(lowe, 31 December 2012 09:35)

UNMIK or authorities delegated by UNMIK... Of course, if UNMIK decides to delegate collection to Kosovo Serbs, they can do the collection, as well.

In any case, there is no question that duties must be paid, if applicable - that's the LAW in Kosovo as determined by UNMIK

lowe

pre 11 godina

"UNMIK or authorities delegated by UNMIK... Of course, if UNMIK decides to delegate collection to Kosovo Serbs, they can do the collection, as well.

In any case, there is no question that duties must be paid, if applicable - that's the LAW in Kosovo as determined by UNMIK
(icj1, 1 January 2013 22:04)"

So did UNMIK actually delegate anyone or themselves to collect the duties? If not, then the K-Serbs would probably not be wrong to ask that these be collected by Serbs themselves which I think was one of the main points for their demonstration.

Moreover how is this UNMIK document still the sacred and all omnipotent law (as you seemed to claim) when Belgrade and Pristina has already signed an agreement on customs duties?

icj1

pre 11 godina

Dont u ever ask yourself why they didnt have the guts to invade by the ground?
(Daniel, 1 January 2013 20:25)

war was made with guts in 1389 (and even then we all know the result)... not today (we saw in the '90s how the Serbs' wars with guts ended up).

Successful war is done in a way that minimizes the losses while maximizing those of the enemy.