“No talks until terror group monument is removed”

Daco, you should also ask Kosovo Albanians to remove KLA monuments in Kosovo's territory. Isn't it too Serbia's territory after all?

Mr. Dacic, why don't you go down to Presevo, if you could humble yourself to do that, sit down with the local Albanian officials, and try and resolve this "monumental disagreement" through dialogue? Yes, the monument is offensive to the local Serbian population, and probably to most Serbians in general, but giving ultimatums to ethnic minorities within your country, or to Brussels, or Pristina, or whoever, is very un-leader like behavior. It makes you, and the people you represent, look like bullies and primitive. Maybe if Milosevic would have sat down with the Kosovo Albanians back in the 90's and honestly tried to iron out their grievances, instead of coming down with an iron fist, we would not be having these daily Serb/Albanian conversations. I am starting to feel a ting of deja-vu, I hope it's a wrong feeling.

Independent Observer

Why should Dacic go to Presevo and negotiate something that shouldn't be there to begin with. Albanians should know that this monument is a provocation to serbs. Do you see monuments of Arkan, Mladic and Milosevic anywhere? No, not even in Serbia. Why? Because even thought they might be heroes to some serbs there are those in Serbia that would be offendend. Albanians however don't care about anyone elses feelings but their own. I wouldn't have any patience with you the way Nikolic and Dacic has. That monument would be gone long ago.

Well done Mr. Dacic, it's about time. Honestly, Why do these minorities push push push.
To get a reaction that's why. They are attention seekers.
So now they have our attention. Take it down, now.
There is plenty of space in Albania to erect as many monuments as you want.

Daco, you should also ask Kosovo Albanians to remove KLA monuments in Kosovo's territory. Isn't it too Serbia's territory after all?
(Painter, 29 December 2012 11:28)

The "monuments" of the KLA are just a symbol for the temporary occupation of Kosovo i Metohija. Those monuments will come down when the occupation does. You have tried to destroy our religious monuments countless of times. The only difference is the Serbian Churches & Monastery's are the oldest and longest standing buildings on Kosovo i Metohija, proving who the province really belongs to.

This is the primary reason why the Serbs have to leave the province according to Albanians, because only then can they completely rewrite history and destroy any traces of Kosovo i Metohija's very roots.

The right approach is not to negotiate with Terrorists, because this Monument to Evil was Only allowed by the Kosovo Albanians, which means Albania which has the same Terrorist attitude as most other Albanians, and their handlers of Britain, America and Germany.

We were told by the Prime Minister of Albania Sali Berisha, that Albanian Terrorism is the most Civilized of the World’s Terrorism.

The Prime Minister of Albania Sali Berisha that nobody should be afraid of the Albanian nationalism because it is “the most civilized and inspired by freedom values.”

The Albanians’ Self Congratulatory False Claim of having values of freedom, is in Reality a total freedom from any type of Evil, Lie, Restraint, Underhanded Methods, and in this regard, they Only second to Britain, America, and Germany.

The time has come for the Albanians to show a Minimum Level of Neighbourliness, by Demanding to have the Kumanovo Agreement scrapped, because Serbia and Kosovo does not belong to Britain, America, or Germany, but they belong to All the People of of Serbia.

Britain, America, and Germany can show that they Respect other People’s Property, and show that this is not the Third Reich or even the Fourth Reich, by acting without any further unnecessary delays to accept European Standards.

The EU will unconditionally and give Serbia a start up date for talks to join the EU without any unnecessary delays, in order to show Good Neighbourly Relations to another European Country.

Its shows once again that ignorants like Mr.Dacic are the real threat for Serbians.Every normal Human would
destroy this Terrorist-Monument in a Second.

Yet Another J S, 29 December 2012 13:21)
Everytime you post I get the mental image of a child wearing a crown made of tin foil waving a toy sword, commanding what must be done.
So are you and the PM admitting now that Kosovo instead of Serbia has control of southern Serbia. That is what it sounds like to me.
It also shows the pm is scraping the bottom of the barrel to look for reasons not to go to Brussels now. How does a monument in southern Serbia affect talks with Kosovo?

Albani, your KLA warriors liberated nothing, Presevo is still Serbia, last tim I checked. I do not like Dacic, in fact I can't stand him, but a monument to any separatists, on any country's sovereign soil, is off limits. No matter how we feel, no matter how we justify things, the monument is wrong. Presevo is Serbia, amd Serbia has the right to determine what is right on its soil. Albanians want the same on the soil they claim. Let's be fair.

just wondering, it's got to do with Albanian separatists, that's the correlation S. Serbia has with Kosovo. You probably are aware of the fact that the Presevo Valley Albanians would like to go the way of Kim, and split from Serbia proper. Please do not act dumb, if you are in deed acting, and admit that the KLA monument in Presevo is a direct insult to the nation of Serbia, just as any monument honoring Serbian fighters would be to Albanians in Pristina. There is a Serbian minority in KiM, how would Albanians react if they put up a monument honoring Serbian fighters of the civil war in Pristina? Why are you playing brain dead?

There should have not been any talks anyway. Nothing changes in Serbian politics....The bottom line as a starting point would have been for Serbia to be made to recognize Kosovo independence and the talks would have been no longer than one month.

This is a lose-lose situation for serbs. Taking down the monument by force would only make it look like the Milosevic methods are back. Also use of force against the Albanian minority, could result in retaliation against the Serbian minority in Kosovo (not by government, but they probably won't do much to protect them). I say let it go. No, I probably would not like a Milosevic in Tirana, but if there was a Serbian minority which built one in their section I would let it go.

What has Thaci to do with what happens in Serbia? Maybe, Thaci should also demand that the Serbs in northern Kosova stop putting up barricades & put a end to the illegally erected parallel structures, located in northern Kosova! Also, the Serb inhabitants in northern Kosova should start paying taxes, like all people are required to do! Ivica. D, im sure we come to an agreement, but you know the saying it takes two to tango, buddy!
You must first give, inorder to receive!

MikeC

"Why should Dacic go to Presevo and negotiate something that shouldn't be there to begin with. Albanians should know that this monument is a provocation to serbs. Do you see monuments of Arkan, Mladic and Milosevic anywhere? No, not even in Serbia. Why? Because even thought they might be heroes to some serbs there are those in Serbia that would be offendend. Albanians however don't care about anyone elses feelings but their own. I wouldn't have any patience with you the way Nikolic and Dacic has. That monument would be gone long ago."

I'm really sorry to see that you Serbs are still so easily provoked and have such delicate feelings! But come on, this one is not a big deal, it's just a piece of stone with the names of those that lost their lives during the conflict in 2001, it's not like you lost another peace of land! Or is it because Daco & company are ashamed of killing their own citizens! Mr. MikeC, we don't see monuments of Milosevic, Arkan, and Karadjic because they're still alive and well running the government of Serbia, thanks to voters like you.

By time... dream for Big Albo will be zero.

Maybe if Milosevic would have sat down with the Kosovo Albanians back in the 90's and honestly tried to iron out their grievances, instead of coming down with an iron fist, we would not be having these daily Serb/Albanian conversations.
(Independent Observer, 29 December 2012 11:48)

Tito honestly tried for a long time to iron out Albanian grievances, but failed because it seems that the only thing which could iron out K*Albanian grievances is KSerbs leaving Kosovo.

(krajina-republica srpksa i crna gorci to su pravi srpski narod, 29 December 2012 17:02)

LOL you can't even speak Serbian man. Your grammar is embarrassing. The last person who will decide what is Serbian and what isn't is you. You are probably an Alb who knows a bit of Serbian so you decided to title your name with that pathetic moniker.

The lengths Albanians will go to try and convince Serbs that the occupation is legitimate is impressive. It's like they care more about what Belgrade thinks than Belgraders do. Why try to hard to separate yourself from a country and people you cannot stop thinking/talking about?!

Terrorist group ??? This young Albanians died fighting against the same person tou Srbs yourself arrested and send him to war trial and where he died as terrorist.Now if this young Albanians were terrorist so is the Serbian population.The whole world fight against the terrorist regime of Belgrade which dacic was a part of the same terrorist organization attacking,killing ,burning,looting,stilling and raping Albanian civilians all over Kosova.Terrorist died like a Rat in Cave and most of his followers and dacic one day will do the same.Do not touch the monument of the Liberators.

I've heard about the suggestion to complete the monument by adding several more stones to it with place for the names of future dead terrorists, which are temporary alive yet.

Comes time for Slav union to remove the terrorist presence on Balkan.

"Do you see monuments of Arkan, Mladic and Milosevic anywhere? No, not even in Serbia. Why? Because even thought they might be heroes to some serbs there are those in Serbia that would be offendend. "
(MikeC, 29 December 2012 12:50)

Right. Fortunately, the plan to set up a Milosevic statue in Prokuplje couldn't be realized. Though the local SPS collected 2000 votes for such a monument.

There could be People who are Just Wondering if they should believe everything they read from a supporter of Third Reich Policies in the Balkans.

If they do then, they are Just Wandering from the ways of Common Sense, because the Only problem with Common Sense is that it is not that common.

I think that Serbia can and should wait as long for as long as it takes for the Albanians to remove their Monument to Evil, because Brussels wants these Talks, and the Albanian will obey their Puppet Masters.

A Rift between Puppet Master and Puppet is good for Serbia, and most Serbs should not care about a start up date for Talks to join the European Union, because it is Only Worthless Used Toilet Paper.

The European Union needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the European Union, and I just hope the Prime Minister tricked the European Union by taking their Cash Bribe to make others think that he is their Puppet.

If I were the Leader of a Country, then I would Secretly Film myself in an Act of Bestiality, where I would pledge my Puppetship to America in that Film, and the Person filming would have an American Hollywood Ascent, and I would use it against America, and I do believe that this is how Wall Street who rules the World has Filmed their Puppets, to ensure they remain Puppets.

If Serbia acts Timid and Compliant, then it Could join the EU in 10 years, but if it acts Bold like me, then it will be 3 years, even with a possible delayed start date for EU Ascension Talks.

(krajina-republica srpksa i crna gorci to su pravi srpski narod, 29 December 2012 17:02)

LOL you can't even speak Serbian man. Your grammar is embarrassing.
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Actually Ari, I think this person is using sarcasm.
I felt like using the same sarcasm when I read this quote from Dacic. Is Presevo Serbia or not? If it is Serbia then why does Dacic need to react this way? Why can't he just have this monstrosity removed?

Is Serbia not governed by Serbian parliament, police and army? Why can't he send police to have this removal done?
Which other country would say they will not come for talks of any kind if this or that was not removed?
Would the US ask anyone if they can remove anything on their territory. Heck, they even removed Bin Laden on foreign territory. I know this is going too far but asking for permission from another country to remove a monument on your own territory IS cowardly and strange.

Serbs from every other part of former Yugoslavia took up arms and fought for their rights and we see Serbs in Serbia cowering and asking for permission to made these decisions in their own land. Pathetic, so yes I think the person who wrote it is Serbian but only very disgusted at the Serbian government.

I could be wrong too but let's see how this person goes next time.

BTW, Ari, your quote and Zoran's quote from what I think is on B92 is used on Atlasshrugs site as examples. I was glad to see your quotes there.

preshovo is not part of serbia anymore, we see that now, if he has to ask them to take it down and not go there to take it down that tells the serbs that preshovo is not part of serbia and then he says he will not go to brusseles to talk to thachi ,like who cares if he goes to brusseles anyway kosovo is albanian not serbian anymore and now it looks like preshovo is also part of albania even with only 50,000 albanians living in the valley and serbia cant do nothing and wont. lol one day he says he will take it down the next day hes asking the albanians to take it down.serbs are all talk in serbia lol.

YOU WILL NOT PRINT WHAT MY COMMENTS WOULD SAY!

I thought that the Serbs have become more clever in politics, but it seems that I am disappointed. How,arrogant and ignorant are these Serbs,were it not those who sought dialogue with us, and now think that us are going to hair fall on the ground if they do not converse with us when it comes to a province made up of three Albanian municipalities in southern Serbia which has under its Sovereign,but until when?

just wondering, it's got to do with Albanian separatists, that's the correlation S. Serbia has with Kosovo. You probably are aware of the fact that the Presevo Valley Albanians would like to go the way of Kim, and split from Serbia proper. Please do not act dumb, if you are in deed acting, and admit that the KLA monument in Presevo is a direct insult to the nation of Serbia, just as any monument honoring Serbian fighters would be to Albanians in Pristina. There is a Serbian minority in KiM, how would Albanians react if they put up a monument honoring Serbian fighters of the civil war in Pristina? Why are you playing brain dead?
(ecoman, 29 December 2012 18:27)
I did not make any judgement as to whether the monument was right or wrong. I am saying does Pristina in any way claim, Presevo? Does Presevo enter into any of the talks in Brussels? The only common denominator SHOULD be there are big Albanian populations in Presevo and Kosovo.
His statement is the same as claiming that Presevo SHould be a part of Kosovo and that it is Kosovo controlling southern Serbia now.
It is amazing how Serbs on here cannot debate an issue without being derogatory.

I don't have any issue that former members of OVPBM have monument. But at the place where they are buried without any signs of OVPBM.

Those killed members of OVPBM, who were killing Serbian policeman and other Serbian citizens never will have monument with signs of terrorist organisation such as OVPBM. Where in the world you can have monument for the people who were fighting against own state? It seems only in Serbia nowhere else.

If somebody fought against Serbian state it does not deserve a monument in the same country against he fought in the past! Simple as that! They can have monument in Albania!

This is pure provocation by Albanian terorists. Serbia have any right to remove that monument.

In any case, even being very generous and assuming that Serbian Churches & Monasteries have been in Kosovo for, say, 2000 years, it is very easy to find a lot of other things that have been in Kosovo before then. And then what ? should we return Kosova* to them ?!
(icj1, 30 December 2012 02:08)

Sorry mate I was just wondering what were those other things that have been in Kosovo before Serbian churches? You are bit flattering us, our Churches have not been that long in Kosovo, Serbs took Christianity less than 1000 years ago. What are those other things which they have been in Kosovo from more than 2000 years ago? Please point that out to me so that we can continue discussion after that.

The time has come for the Albanians to show a Minimum Level of Neighbourliness, by Demanding to have the Kumanovo Agreement scrapped, because Serbia and Kosovo does not belong to Britain, America, or Germany, but they belong to All the People of of Serbia.

Britain, America, and Germany can show that they Respect other People’s Property, and show that this is not the Third Reich or even the Fourth Reich, by acting without any further unnecessary delays to accept European Standards.

The EU will unconditionally and give Serbia a start up date for talks to join the EU without any unnecessary delays, in order to show Good Neighbourly Relations to another European Country.
(Yet Another J S, 29 December 2012 13:21)

Yet Another J S,

I am ROTFLMAO, didn't know you had such a good sense of humor.

Or, is it you are simply groveling to appease your masters. Tell me why should the Albanians allow Serbia to save face when Serbia is on its knees.

The only difference is the Serbian Churches & Monastery's are the oldest and longest standing buildings on Kosovo i Metohija, proving who the province really belongs to.
(Ari Gold, 29 December 2012 12:19)

Mate, I've not heard the Serbian Church claiming that the territory of Kosovo belongs to the Serbian Church - have you heard that ?

In any case, even being very generous and assuming that Serbian Churches & Monasteries have been in Kosovo for, say, 2000 years, it is very easy to find a lot of other things that have been in Kosovo before then. And then what ? should we return Kosova* to them ?!

There are monuments to confederates all over the southern us. Just let it be. The presevo Albanians tried to get NATO support but failed so there is no risk of presevo not being a part of Serbia because presevo was not a province like Kosovo and Vojvodina which makes their independence from Serbia and separtism legitimate to NATO eu.

Sorry mate I was just wondering what were those other things that have been in Kosovo before Serbian churches? You are bit flattering us, our Churches have not been that long in Kosovo, Serbs took Christianity less than 1000 years ago. What are those other things which they have been in Kosovo from more than 2000 years ago? Please point that out to me so that we can continue discussion after that.
(Zec, 31 December 2012 12:44)

Dear, Kosovo was not created by the almighty 2000 years ago, even though that's what Mr. Gavrilovic might have told the Serbian flock. Kosovo has been there for 5,000,000,000 years and it has been inhabitated by all sorts of life forms for hundreds of millions of years before the Serbs.

For example the Romans were certainly in Kosovo before the Serbs and they build their villas there (for example in Podujevo). And not just Kosovo, but in Serbia itself we have Roman structures, for example the Via Militaris in Dimitrovgrad that were build long before the Serbian churches.

Now we can continue this discussion for academic purposes, but not sure it helps us much for the future unless, of course, we decide to use historical presence in order to determine whom Kosovo belongs to, in which case we can say it belongs to Italy (not just Kosovo, but all Serbia), and so on if we go further and further back in history.

There should have not been any talks anyway. Nothing changes in Serbian politics....The bottom line as a starting point would have been for Serbia to be made to recognize Kosovo independence and the talks would have been no longer than one month.

Mr. Dacic, why don't you go down to Presevo, if you could humble yourself to do that, sit down with the local Albanian officials, and try and resolve this "monumental disagreement" through dialogue? Yes, the monument is offensive to the local Serbian population, and probably to most Serbians in general, but giving ultimatums to ethnic minorities within your country, or to Brussels, or Pristina, or whoever, is very un-leader like behavior. It makes you, and the people you represent, look like bullies and primitive. Maybe if Milosevic would have sat down with the Kosovo Albanians back in the 90's and honestly tried to iron out their grievances, instead of coming down with an iron fist, we would not be having these daily Serb/Albanian conversations. I am starting to feel a ting of deja-vu, I hope it's a wrong feeling.

Daco, you should also ask Kosovo Albanians to remove KLA monuments in Kosovo's territory. Isn't it too Serbia's territory after all?
(Painter, 29 December 2012 11:28)

The "monuments" of the KLA are just a symbol for the temporary occupation of Kosovo i Metohija. Those monuments will come down when the occupation does. You have tried to destroy our religious monuments countless of times. The only difference is the Serbian Churches & Monastery's are the oldest and longest standing buildings on Kosovo i Metohija, proving who the province really belongs to.

This is the primary reason why the Serbs have to leave the province according to Albanians, because only then can they completely rewrite history and destroy any traces of Kosovo i Metohija's very roots.

Its shows once again that ignorants like Mr.Dacic are the real threat for Serbians.Every normal Human would
destroy this Terrorist-Monument in a Second.

Independent Observer

Why should Dacic go to Presevo and negotiate something that shouldn't be there to begin with. Albanians should know that this monument is a provocation to serbs. Do you see monuments of Arkan, Mladic and Milosevic anywhere? No, not even in Serbia. Why? Because even thought they might be heroes to some serbs there are those in Serbia that would be offendend. Albanians however don't care about anyone elses feelings but their own. I wouldn't have any patience with you the way Nikolic and Dacic has. That monument would be gone long ago.

The right approach is not to negotiate with Terrorists, because this Monument to Evil was Only allowed by the Kosovo Albanians, which means Albania which has the same Terrorist attitude as most other Albanians, and their handlers of Britain, America and Germany.

We were told by the Prime Minister of Albania Sali Berisha, that Albanian Terrorism is the most Civilized of the World’s Terrorism.

The Prime Minister of Albania Sali Berisha that nobody should be afraid of the Albanian nationalism because it is “the most civilized and inspired by freedom values.”

The Albanians’ Self Congratulatory False Claim of having values of freedom, is in Reality a total freedom from any type of Evil, Lie, Restraint, Underhanded Methods, and in this regard, they Only second to Britain, America, and Germany.

The time has come for the Albanians to show a Minimum Level of Neighbourliness, by Demanding to have the Kumanovo Agreement scrapped, because Serbia and Kosovo does not belong to Britain, America, or Germany, but they belong to All the People of of Serbia.

Britain, America, and Germany can show that they Respect other People’s Property, and show that this is not the Third Reich or even the Fourth Reich, by acting without any further unnecessary delays to accept European Standards.

The EU will unconditionally and give Serbia a start up date for talks to join the EU without any unnecessary delays, in order to show Good Neighbourly Relations to another European Country.

What has Thaci to do with what happens in Serbia? Maybe, Thaci should also demand that the Serbs in northern Kosova stop putting up barricades & put a end to the illegally erected parallel structures, located in northern Kosova! Also, the Serb inhabitants in northern Kosova should start paying taxes, like all people are required to do! Ivica. D, im sure we come to an agreement, but you know the saying it takes two to tango, buddy!
You must first give, inorder to receive!

Terrorist group ??? This young Albanians died fighting against the same person tou Srbs yourself arrested and send him to war trial and where he died as terrorist.Now if this young Albanians were terrorist so is the Serbian population.The whole world fight against the terrorist regime of Belgrade which dacic was a part of the same terrorist organization attacking,killing ,burning,looting,stilling and raping Albanian civilians all over Kosova.Terrorist died like a Rat in Cave and most of his followers and dacic one day will do the same.Do not touch the monument of the Liberators.

Well done Mr. Dacic, it's about time. Honestly, Why do these minorities push push push.
To get a reaction that's why. They are attention seekers.
So now they have our attention. Take it down, now.
There is plenty of space in Albania to erect as many monuments as you want.

MikeC

"Why should Dacic go to Presevo and negotiate something that shouldn't be there to begin with. Albanians should know that this monument is a provocation to serbs. Do you see monuments of Arkan, Mladic and Milosevic anywhere? No, not even in Serbia. Why? Because even thought they might be heroes to some serbs there are those in Serbia that would be offendend. Albanians however don't care about anyone elses feelings but their own. I wouldn't have any patience with you the way Nikolic and Dacic has. That monument would be gone long ago."

I'm really sorry to see that you Serbs are still so easily provoked and have such delicate feelings! But come on, this one is not a big deal, it's just a piece of stone with the names of those that lost their lives during the conflict in 2001, it's not like you lost another peace of land! Or is it because Daco & company are ashamed of killing their own citizens! Mr. MikeC, we don't see monuments of Milosevic, Arkan, and Karadjic because they're still alive and well running the government of Serbia, thanks to voters like you.

This is a lose-lose situation for serbs. Taking down the monument by force would only make it look like the Milosevic methods are back. Also use of force against the Albanian minority, could result in retaliation against the Serbian minority in Kosovo (not by government, but they probably won't do much to protect them). I say let it go. No, I probably would not like a Milosevic in Tirana, but if there was a Serbian minority which built one in their section I would let it go.

Daco, you should also ask Kosovo Albanians to remove KLA monuments in Kosovo's territory. Isn't it too Serbia's territory after all?

preshovo is not part of serbia anymore, we see that now, if he has to ask them to take it down and not go there to take it down that tells the serbs that preshovo is not part of serbia and then he says he will not go to brusseles to talk to thachi ,like who cares if he goes to brusseles anyway kosovo is albanian not serbian anymore and now it looks like preshovo is also part of albania even with only 50,000 albanians living in the valley and serbia cant do nothing and wont. lol one day he says he will take it down the next day hes asking the albanians to take it down.serbs are all talk in serbia lol.

Yet Another J S, 29 December 2012 13:21)
Everytime you post I get the mental image of a child wearing a crown made of tin foil waving a toy sword, commanding what must be done.
So are you and the PM admitting now that Kosovo instead of Serbia has control of southern Serbia. That is what it sounds like to me.
It also shows the pm is scraping the bottom of the barrel to look for reasons not to go to Brussels now. How does a monument in southern Serbia affect talks with Kosovo?

I thought that the Serbs have become more clever in politics, but it seems that I am disappointed. How,arrogant and ignorant are these Serbs,were it not those who sought dialogue with us, and now think that us are going to hair fall on the ground if they do not converse with us when it comes to a province made up of three Albanian municipalities in southern Serbia which has under its Sovereign,but until when?

There could be People who are Just Wondering if they should believe everything they read from a supporter of Third Reich Policies in the Balkans.

If they do then, they are Just Wandering from the ways of Common Sense, because the Only problem with Common Sense is that it is not that common.

I think that Serbia can and should wait as long for as long as it takes for the Albanians to remove their Monument to Evil, because Brussels wants these Talks, and the Albanian will obey their Puppet Masters.

A Rift between Puppet Master and Puppet is good for Serbia, and most Serbs should not care about a start up date for Talks to join the European Union, because it is Only Worthless Used Toilet Paper.

The European Union needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the European Union, and I just hope the Prime Minister tricked the European Union by taking their Cash Bribe to make others think that he is their Puppet.

If I were the Leader of a Country, then I would Secretly Film myself in an Act of Bestiality, where I would pledge my Puppetship to America in that Film, and the Person filming would have an American Hollywood Ascent, and I would use it against America, and I do believe that this is how Wall Street who rules the World has Filmed their Puppets, to ensure they remain Puppets.

If Serbia acts Timid and Compliant, then it Could join the EU in 10 years, but if it acts Bold like me, then it will be 3 years, even with a possible delayed start date for EU Ascension Talks.

just wondering, it's got to do with Albanian separatists, that's the correlation S. Serbia has with Kosovo. You probably are aware of the fact that the Presevo Valley Albanians would like to go the way of Kim, and split from Serbia proper. Please do not act dumb, if you are in deed acting, and admit that the KLA monument in Presevo is a direct insult to the nation of Serbia, just as any monument honoring Serbian fighters would be to Albanians in Pristina. There is a Serbian minority in KiM, how would Albanians react if they put up a monument honoring Serbian fighters of the civil war in Pristina? Why are you playing brain dead?

The only difference is the Serbian Churches & Monastery's are the oldest and longest standing buildings on Kosovo i Metohija, proving who the province really belongs to.
(Ari Gold, 29 December 2012 12:19)

Mate, I've not heard the Serbian Church claiming that the territory of Kosovo belongs to the Serbian Church - have you heard that ?

In any case, even being very generous and assuming that Serbian Churches & Monasteries have been in Kosovo for, say, 2000 years, it is very easy to find a lot of other things that have been in Kosovo before then. And then what ? should we return Kosova* to them ?!

By time... dream for Big Albo will be zero.

Maybe if Milosevic would have sat down with the Kosovo Albanians back in the 90's and honestly tried to iron out their grievances, instead of coming down with an iron fist, we would not be having these daily Serb/Albanian conversations.
(Independent Observer, 29 December 2012 11:48)

Tito honestly tried for a long time to iron out Albanian grievances, but failed because it seems that the only thing which could iron out K*Albanian grievances is KSerbs leaving Kosovo.

The time has come for the Albanians to show a Minimum Level of Neighbourliness, by Demanding to have the Kumanovo Agreement scrapped, because Serbia and Kosovo does not belong to Britain, America, or Germany, but they belong to All the People of of Serbia.

Britain, America, and Germany can show that they Respect other People’s Property, and show that this is not the Third Reich or even the Fourth Reich, by acting without any further unnecessary delays to accept European Standards.

The EU will unconditionally and give Serbia a start up date for talks to join the EU without any unnecessary delays, in order to show Good Neighbourly Relations to another European Country.
(Yet Another J S, 29 December 2012 13:21)

Yet Another J S,

I am ROTFLMAO, didn't know you had such a good sense of humor.

Or, is it you are simply groveling to appease your masters. Tell me why should the Albanians allow Serbia to save face when Serbia is on its knees.

Albani, your KLA warriors liberated nothing, Presevo is still Serbia, last tim I checked. I do not like Dacic, in fact I can't stand him, but a monument to any separatists, on any country's sovereign soil, is off limits. No matter how we feel, no matter how we justify things, the monument is wrong. Presevo is Serbia, amd Serbia has the right to determine what is right on its soil. Albanians want the same on the soil they claim. Let's be fair.

I've heard about the suggestion to complete the monument by adding several more stones to it with place for the names of future dead terrorists, which are temporary alive yet.

(krajina-republica srpksa i crna gorci to su pravi srpski narod, 29 December 2012 17:02)

LOL you can't even speak Serbian man. Your grammar is embarrassing. The last person who will decide what is Serbian and what isn't is you. You are probably an Alb who knows a bit of Serbian so you decided to title your name with that pathetic moniker.

The lengths Albanians will go to try and convince Serbs that the occupation is legitimate is impressive. It's like they care more about what Belgrade thinks than Belgraders do. Why try to hard to separate yourself from a country and people you cannot stop thinking/talking about?!

There are monuments to confederates all over the southern us. Just let it be. The presevo Albanians tried to get NATO support but failed so there is no risk of presevo not being a part of Serbia because presevo was not a province like Kosovo and Vojvodina which makes their independence from Serbia and separtism legitimate to NATO eu.

"Do you see monuments of Arkan, Mladic and Milosevic anywhere? No, not even in Serbia. Why? Because even thought they might be heroes to some serbs there are those in Serbia that would be offendend. "
(MikeC, 29 December 2012 12:50)

Right. Fortunately, the plan to set up a Milosevic statue in Prokuplje couldn't be realized. Though the local SPS collected 2000 votes for such a monument.

YOU WILL NOT PRINT WHAT MY COMMENTS WOULD SAY!

(krajina-republica srpksa i crna gorci to su pravi srpski narod, 29 December 2012 17:02)

LOL you can't even speak Serbian man. Your grammar is embarrassing.
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Actually Ari, I think this person is using sarcasm.
I felt like using the same sarcasm when I read this quote from Dacic. Is Presevo Serbia or not? If it is Serbia then why does Dacic need to react this way? Why can't he just have this monstrosity removed?

Is Serbia not governed by Serbian parliament, police and army? Why can't he send police to have this removal done?
Which other country would say they will not come for talks of any kind if this or that was not removed?
Would the US ask anyone if they can remove anything on their territory. Heck, they even removed Bin Laden on foreign territory. I know this is going too far but asking for permission from another country to remove a monument on your own territory IS cowardly and strange.

Serbs from every other part of former Yugoslavia took up arms and fought for their rights and we see Serbs in Serbia cowering and asking for permission to made these decisions in their own land. Pathetic, so yes I think the person who wrote it is Serbian but only very disgusted at the Serbian government.

I could be wrong too but let's see how this person goes next time.

BTW, Ari, your quote and Zoran's quote from what I think is on B92 is used on Atlasshrugs site as examples. I was glad to see your quotes there.

just wondering, it's got to do with Albanian separatists, that's the correlation S. Serbia has with Kosovo. You probably are aware of the fact that the Presevo Valley Albanians would like to go the way of Kim, and split from Serbia proper. Please do not act dumb, if you are in deed acting, and admit that the KLA monument in Presevo is a direct insult to the nation of Serbia, just as any monument honoring Serbian fighters would be to Albanians in Pristina. There is a Serbian minority in KiM, how would Albanians react if they put up a monument honoring Serbian fighters of the civil war in Pristina? Why are you playing brain dead?
(ecoman, 29 December 2012 18:27)
I did not make any judgement as to whether the monument was right or wrong. I am saying does Pristina in any way claim, Presevo? Does Presevo enter into any of the talks in Brussels? The only common denominator SHOULD be there are big Albanian populations in Presevo and Kosovo.
His statement is the same as claiming that Presevo SHould be a part of Kosovo and that it is Kosovo controlling southern Serbia now.
It is amazing how Serbs on here cannot debate an issue without being derogatory.

Comes time for Slav union to remove the terrorist presence on Balkan.

I don't have any issue that former members of OVPBM have monument. But at the place where they are buried without any signs of OVPBM.

Those killed members of OVPBM, who were killing Serbian policeman and other Serbian citizens never will have monument with signs of terrorist organisation such as OVPBM. Where in the world you can have monument for the people who were fighting against own state? It seems only in Serbia nowhere else.

If somebody fought against Serbian state it does not deserve a monument in the same country against he fought in the past! Simple as that! They can have monument in Albania!

This is pure provocation by Albanian terorists. Serbia have any right to remove that monument.

In any case, even being very generous and assuming that Serbian Churches & Monasteries have been in Kosovo for, say, 2000 years, it is very easy to find a lot of other things that have been in Kosovo before then. And then what ? should we return Kosova* to them ?!
(icj1, 30 December 2012 02:08)

Sorry mate I was just wondering what were those other things that have been in Kosovo before Serbian churches? You are bit flattering us, our Churches have not been that long in Kosovo, Serbs took Christianity less than 1000 years ago. What are those other things which they have been in Kosovo from more than 2000 years ago? Please point that out to me so that we can continue discussion after that.

Sorry mate I was just wondering what were those other things that have been in Kosovo before Serbian churches? You are bit flattering us, our Churches have not been that long in Kosovo, Serbs took Christianity less than 1000 years ago. What are those other things which they have been in Kosovo from more than 2000 years ago? Please point that out to me so that we can continue discussion after that.
(Zec, 31 December 2012 12:44)

Dear, Kosovo was not created by the almighty 2000 years ago, even though that's what Mr. Gavrilovic might have told the Serbian flock. Kosovo has been there for 5,000,000,000 years and it has been inhabitated by all sorts of life forms for hundreds of millions of years before the Serbs.

For example the Romans were certainly in Kosovo before the Serbs and they build their villas there (for example in Podujevo). And not just Kosovo, but in Serbia itself we have Roman structures, for example the Via Militaris in Dimitrovgrad that were build long before the Serbian churches.

Now we can continue this discussion for academic purposes, but not sure it helps us much for the future unless, of course, we decide to use historical presence in order to determine whom Kosovo belongs to, in which case we can say it belongs to Italy (not just Kosovo, but all Serbia), and so on if we go further and further back in history.