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Friday, 28.12.2012.

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Official warns against reduction of UNMIK presence

Serbian government’s Office for Kosovo Director Aleksandar Vulin says that a reduction of UNMIK's presence in Kosovska Mitrovica was unacceptable.

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icj1

pre 11 godina

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK,"
(Avi, 29 December 2012 11:31)

And Hashim may or may not agree so for now Serbia's taxpayers can foot the bill for this "no problem" :)

ida

pre 11 godina

Albanians were never loyal and they did commit a lot of violence against Serbs. Under Tito and even after, Kosovo Serbs were leaving due to Albanian attacks on them - but they were forbidden by the government to talk about it.
I know a guy from Canada who taught in Serbia years ago and his students were the children of Kosovo Serbs who'd been terrorized out in the early 1970's.
And one only has to look at how Albanians aren't getting along even with Macedonians. Albanians killed some teen boys fishing last spring and the towns there are becoming segregated and divided up.
Albania itself still has the blood feud going on and I read Albanian news and there are horrible murders all the time there.
I recently read of cases where husbands beat their wives severely - one died and the other was left in a coma.
And Albanian do heavily traffic drugs, weapons and people around Europe.

Nori

pre 11 godina

(ida, 29 December 2012 05:29)

We are going in circles here ida, and that is why serbs will have peace with bosnia and crotia but you will never find peace with albanians becouse you are believing in lies. You have been lied to so much, by now it has become truth to you. You are saying that we got what we asked for, we were making trouble and we got trouble and that would be wery reasonable IF it were true which its not. But i am well aware of that, that is what all of you serbs think and you have your leaders to thank for propaganda becoming reality to you. To understand the conflict in Kosovo you must understand why and how kla came into being, what drove it, and why it spoke for all Albanians. We asked for peace and you answered with repression. I know you simply want to believe that Albanians are a violent people but that is not the case. Ida Serbs are responsible for todays nationalism that you see in albanians, its a simple case of action and reaction. You created this and you will have to live with that. Again if you knew what you have done in Kosovo your attitude would be different.

Avi

pre 11 godina

@icj1

""If the reason for UNMIK's reduction are technical difficulties and lack of funds, the problem can be solved," he stressed"

Nice... Serbia's taxpayers will pay - money is not a problem!
(icj1, 28 December 2012 19:19)

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK,"
Q: What is the Kosovo Consolidate Budge?
The Kosovo Consolidated Budget is an UNMIK prepared budget for Kosovo.
(see links 1 and 2):

link 1:

http://www.un.org/peace/kosovo/pages/unmik12.html

link 2:

http://www.m-magazine.org/sr/Kosovo/Government-does-not-terminate-the-funding-of-UNMIK-1365

This money comes mostly from U.S. tax payers (see link 3).
The independence and the sustenance of Kosovo in the end seems to be, at least in terms of funding, a U.S. government project.

link 3:

http://www.science.co.il/arab-israeli-conflict/articles/Anonymous-2003-08.asp

It would be kind of absurd for Serbia to fund protection of Albanians in Northern Kosovo.

ida

pre 11 godina

"where were you 30+ years ago when all we wanted was being treated as human-beings. Where were you when all those innocent albanians got killed during 98/99 and before that,, where were you when 1+ million albanians where expelled from Kosovo"

30 years ago Albanians were terrorizing Serbs out of Kosovo - even The New York Times had articles on Serbs leaving Kosovo due to Albanian violence. Albanians were also sabotaging the electric companies and other works - that from an electrical engineer who later left for the U.S. and works there.
You also left out that it was the Albanians which started the killings under the KLA - they even killed Albanians that in any way were connected with the official Serbian government - including forestry workers. Perhaps the Albanian forestry workers witnessed their training camps and that's why they were killed.

Toma

pre 11 godina

I feel sorry for the Serbs in kosova.

They are losing their only chance to peace and normal life.

They have high hopes of Belgrade with their biggest pins on their lapels but in reality Belgrade has ZERO ZERO ZERO control or ability in kosova.

They read their modern day prince lazars typing on b92 ( ari peggy and the other teenage American serbs ) saying kill this war that burn this from the security of their heated homes in the suburbs of America.

They cannot trust some Albanians in kosova because just like the rest of the world, there's a few bad people everywhere.

If the kosova Serbs would just form a govt and then demand that Prishtina recognize that the Serbs of kosova want to control their own lives then that will prove that these Serbs that people tell the hero stories about are real and not just old mans stories. But the kosova serbs would never do that because they cannot accept that to be a man and control your destiny and to do something that is greater than you and will make your sons and daughters lives 100% better than the track you are currently on would mean you HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE RIGHTS ATSARI PLAN GIVES YOU AND USE THEM.

Belgrade already told you and Serbia and Prishtina and the rest of the world that they will never ever ever rule kosova

God bless you all

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

You got one thing right thou, only total serb capitulation is expected and is happening while you are wasting you breath. And you are right about something else to Ari, for you i have not on millimeter of peace, not even a quark of peace!
(Nori, 28 December 2012 20:59)

I am glad you admit those things. And no, thankfully the Serbs of Kosovo i Metohija are giving you the middle finger to your total capitulation and in July 2011 when you tried to do something about it, it was your organ extractors who capitulated.

Bridge

pre 11 godina

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK," he said.

This is the dumbest thing i've heard this year.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

There is a democratically elected government in Pristina? Did I miss something? I only remember some 'elections' last year (well, this mockery doesn't deserve to be called elections), organized by Kosovo Albanian authorities. The result: Massive fraud reported by numerous international observers, 100s of cases of voter intimidation, manipulated voter lists, bought votes, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% in his home clan region. Probably that's the interpretation of democracy in a (mafia) clan based society.
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 December 2012 21:01)
There were revotes taken in areas the observers say problems occurred, which final analysis (outside of Serbia) was that they were reasonably fair. Curious as to your view of recent Serbian elections. What happened to the bogus ballots that Nikolic had uncovered days before the election, did that announcement give him the edge to beat Tadic? Have not heard a word on it since he won!. Do you actually believe that Kosovo elections are worse than any of the other balkan states or Eastern Europe and definitely Russia?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

" It is also UNMIK that transitioned authority to the democratically elected govrenment in Pristina."
(a New Day, 28 December 2012 18:03)

There is a democratically elected government in Pristina? Did I miss something? I only remember some 'elections' last year (well, this mockery doesn't deserve to be called elections), organized by Kosovo Albanian authorities. The result: Massive fraud reported by numerous international observers, 100s of cases of voter intimidation, manipulated voter lists, bought votes, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% in his home clan region. Probably that's the interpretation of democracy in a (mafia) clan based society.

Nori

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 28 December 2012 20:19)

You are not getting it Ari, its to late for us to accept your peace-offering now, where were you 30+ years ago when all we wanted was being treated as human-beings. Where were you when all those innocent albanians got killed during 98/99 and before that,, where were you when 1+ million albanians where expelled from Kosovo. Where were you when ALL our homes and everything that had any affiliation with albanians got burnt down where were you when our children and loved ones got massacred and our women raped. And please please stop blaimng Nato for that, its pathetic. The very thing you accuse the albanians of is actually what you are Ari not me. We are not rapist we are not islamist radicals we are no murderers but we have had enough of you serbs. I am convinced that you do not know what was going on in Kosovo otherwise your attitude against Kosovo would not be as it is. You got one thing right thou, only total serb capitulation is expected and is happening while you are wasting you breath. And you are right about something else to Ari, for you i have not on millimeter of peace, not even a quark of peace!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

You're so brave...behind your computer...

(Hans, 28 December 2012 14:33)

I am much closer and more open to peace than you are. For you, the only solution is for Serbia to not only surrender its territory but to also acknowledge the surrendering as legitimate. It is not I, nor most Serbs to rule over your way of life and impose ourselves onto you.

Instead of using this opportunity to make a cement a stable peace agreement between the Serbian and Albanian people you look for more, places you don't even live in. Are you even giving peace any kind of chance? If you can't except Serbian existence on Kosovo i Metohija, as well as direct control over Serbian populated areas both north and south of the Ibar then you are being irrational, unrealistic and appear to have no interest in real negotiations.

Instead you come on here, talk tough and delude yourselves from believing NATO's strength is really yours.

icj1

pre 11 godina

""If the reason for UNMIK's reduction are technical difficulties and lack of funds, the problem can be solved," he stressed"

Nice... Serbia's taxpayers will pay - money is not a problem!

a New Day

pre 11 godina

It is so funny to hear these comments. Up until EULEX take over, Serbs in the north(as well as Serbia) have always renounced the authority of UNMIK. They never participated in UNMIK called elections, and called for their removal from Kosovo. Still today they wave the UNMIK banner in defiance of Albanians, It has always been UNMIK's assertion that all of Kosovo was a single customs unit. It is also UNMIK that transitioned authority to the democratically elected govrenment in Pristina.

Nori

pre 11 godina

Kosovo government' and its relations with the west? Funny. Do you think the tail wags the dog?
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 December 2012 15:19)

Haha nice one CP, you just made me think of Serbias relationship with Russia. Could ask you the same but of course in this case you think differently since Serbia is such a big and strong country.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"And as to July 2011, if it wasn't for Kosovo gvt not to hinder its relations with the West, northern serbs would have appeared as brilliant as their cousins in Krahina in 1995... "
(Hans, 28 December 2012 14:33)

'Kosovo government' and its relations with the west? Funny. Do you think the tail wags the dog?

Hans

pre 11 godina

Because if 40,000 Serbs could do that, just imagine the state of Serbia..wouldn't even be close.
(Ari Gold, 28 December 2012 11:33)

You're so brave...behind your computer...

In 1999, Serbia had nearly 200 000 soldiers, 1 500 tanks and thousands of IFVs. Albanians had nearly nothing inside, had to go through mine fields to try to bring in some AK-47...
And yet Serbia lost hundreds of policemen, soldiers and paramilitaries and used to shell civilians and villages in return...

Now Serbia has a post-soviet army, barely 28 000 soldiers, 200 tanks a few IFVs still able to roll whereas Kosovo has now tens of thousands arms "inside", mountains of amunitins, nearly 15 000 mens officially armed, a safe border with Albania, NATO country.

It doesn't mean Kosovo can defeat Serbia, it only shows that today's Serbian army has not even the means to protect correctly Serbia proper let alone threatening Kosovo...the most it could achieve could be occupying Leposavic or Zveçan e few days, nothing more...

Even a man like Nikolic is keen on promoting diplomatic means since he knows, far better than you, that military means do not exist any more...

And as to July 2011, if it wasn't for Kosovo gvt not to hinder its relations with the West, northern serbs would have appeared as brilliant as their cousins in Krahina in 1995...

so calm down mate

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"They said they were not leaving and we are happy about that. UNMIK will stay here in a reduced form. The reduction worries us, but the fact that UNMIK is staying is definitely important to us," Vulin said, adding that UNMIK could not leave, because the work in Kosovo was not finished.

UNFICYP troops stayed in Cyprus for more than 30 years now, so where's the problem with UNMIK staying in Kosovo (which has a similar status as a disputed territory)? Of course numbers of the UN can be reduced when the situation normalizes.

Nobody can deny that UNMIK's task is not finished yet. To remind you, part of it is enabling the safe return of all refugees and people expelled from Kosovo. There are still 10.000 of Serbs who didn't return yet, and the few 100s that dared to return are still endangered with Albanians extremists shooting at them, stoning their cars, looting and vandalizing their houses, and so on, and so on...

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

A lot of "fears" from the guys....as long as that you still feed the people in northern Kosovo not to recognise Kosovo government...you really will fear....BUT please do not blame the others because we are getting tired of it.
(EA, 28 December 2012 10:27)

The only people fear anything in regards to Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia's government because its sell out traitorous elite 'fears' being put in a position where its not defending its own people within its own state from ethnic violence, religious hatred and cultural genocide.

The people who fear the least are the Serbs still living in the occupation as well as Northern Kosovo. Despite having to deal with savagery on a daily basis they stay and that is what hurts you the most. They are some of the bravest people standing on this planet. This was evident in July of 2011 when ROSU terrorists showed up to try and occupy Northern Kosovo and the Serbs with its own state opposing them defeated you.

I wish the West would hurry up already with the creation of this 'kosovo army' so that you can be left to physically protect your occupation. Because if 40,000 Serbs could do that, just imagine the state of Serbia..wouldn't even be close.

EA

pre 11 godina

A lot of "fears" from the guys....as long as that you still feed the people in northern Kosovo not to recognise Kosovo government...you really will fear....BUT please do not blame the others because we are getting tired of it.

Hans

pre 11 godina

Because if 40,000 Serbs could do that, just imagine the state of Serbia..wouldn't even be close.
(Ari Gold, 28 December 2012 11:33)

You're so brave...behind your computer...

In 1999, Serbia had nearly 200 000 soldiers, 1 500 tanks and thousands of IFVs. Albanians had nearly nothing inside, had to go through mine fields to try to bring in some AK-47...
And yet Serbia lost hundreds of policemen, soldiers and paramilitaries and used to shell civilians and villages in return...

Now Serbia has a post-soviet army, barely 28 000 soldiers, 200 tanks a few IFVs still able to roll whereas Kosovo has now tens of thousands arms "inside", mountains of amunitins, nearly 15 000 mens officially armed, a safe border with Albania, NATO country.

It doesn't mean Kosovo can defeat Serbia, it only shows that today's Serbian army has not even the means to protect correctly Serbia proper let alone threatening Kosovo...the most it could achieve could be occupying Leposavic or Zveçan e few days, nothing more...

Even a man like Nikolic is keen on promoting diplomatic means since he knows, far better than you, that military means do not exist any more...

And as to July 2011, if it wasn't for Kosovo gvt not to hinder its relations with the West, northern serbs would have appeared as brilliant as their cousins in Krahina in 1995...

so calm down mate

EA

pre 11 godina

A lot of "fears" from the guys....as long as that you still feed the people in northern Kosovo not to recognise Kosovo government...you really will fear....BUT please do not blame the others because we are getting tired of it.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

A lot of "fears" from the guys....as long as that you still feed the people in northern Kosovo not to recognise Kosovo government...you really will fear....BUT please do not blame the others because we are getting tired of it.
(EA, 28 December 2012 10:27)

The only people fear anything in regards to Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia's government because its sell out traitorous elite 'fears' being put in a position where its not defending its own people within its own state from ethnic violence, religious hatred and cultural genocide.

The people who fear the least are the Serbs still living in the occupation as well as Northern Kosovo. Despite having to deal with savagery on a daily basis they stay and that is what hurts you the most. They are some of the bravest people standing on this planet. This was evident in July of 2011 when ROSU terrorists showed up to try and occupy Northern Kosovo and the Serbs with its own state opposing them defeated you.

I wish the West would hurry up already with the creation of this 'kosovo army' so that you can be left to physically protect your occupation. Because if 40,000 Serbs could do that, just imagine the state of Serbia..wouldn't even be close.

Nori

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 28 December 2012 20:19)

You are not getting it Ari, its to late for us to accept your peace-offering now, where were you 30+ years ago when all we wanted was being treated as human-beings. Where were you when all those innocent albanians got killed during 98/99 and before that,, where were you when 1+ million albanians where expelled from Kosovo. Where were you when ALL our homes and everything that had any affiliation with albanians got burnt down where were you when our children and loved ones got massacred and our women raped. And please please stop blaimng Nato for that, its pathetic. The very thing you accuse the albanians of is actually what you are Ari not me. We are not rapist we are not islamist radicals we are no murderers but we have had enough of you serbs. I am convinced that you do not know what was going on in Kosovo otherwise your attitude against Kosovo would not be as it is. You got one thing right thou, only total serb capitulation is expected and is happening while you are wasting you breath. And you are right about something else to Ari, for you i have not on millimeter of peace, not even a quark of peace!

a New Day

pre 11 godina

It is so funny to hear these comments. Up until EULEX take over, Serbs in the north(as well as Serbia) have always renounced the authority of UNMIK. They never participated in UNMIK called elections, and called for their removal from Kosovo. Still today they wave the UNMIK banner in defiance of Albanians, It has always been UNMIK's assertion that all of Kosovo was a single customs unit. It is also UNMIK that transitioned authority to the democratically elected govrenment in Pristina.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"They said they were not leaving and we are happy about that. UNMIK will stay here in a reduced form. The reduction worries us, but the fact that UNMIK is staying is definitely important to us," Vulin said, adding that UNMIK could not leave, because the work in Kosovo was not finished.

UNFICYP troops stayed in Cyprus for more than 30 years now, so where's the problem with UNMIK staying in Kosovo (which has a similar status as a disputed territory)? Of course numbers of the UN can be reduced when the situation normalizes.

Nobody can deny that UNMIK's task is not finished yet. To remind you, part of it is enabling the safe return of all refugees and people expelled from Kosovo. There are still 10.000 of Serbs who didn't return yet, and the few 100s that dared to return are still endangered with Albanians extremists shooting at them, stoning their cars, looting and vandalizing their houses, and so on, and so on...

icj1

pre 11 godina

""If the reason for UNMIK's reduction are technical difficulties and lack of funds, the problem can be solved," he stressed"

Nice... Serbia's taxpayers will pay - money is not a problem!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"And as to July 2011, if it wasn't for Kosovo gvt not to hinder its relations with the West, northern serbs would have appeared as brilliant as their cousins in Krahina in 1995... "
(Hans, 28 December 2012 14:33)

'Kosovo government' and its relations with the west? Funny. Do you think the tail wags the dog?

Nori

pre 11 godina

Kosovo government' and its relations with the west? Funny. Do you think the tail wags the dog?
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 December 2012 15:19)

Haha nice one CP, you just made me think of Serbias relationship with Russia. Could ask you the same but of course in this case you think differently since Serbia is such a big and strong country.

Avi

pre 11 godina

@icj1

""If the reason for UNMIK's reduction are technical difficulties and lack of funds, the problem can be solved," he stressed"

Nice... Serbia's taxpayers will pay - money is not a problem!
(icj1, 28 December 2012 19:19)

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK,"
Q: What is the Kosovo Consolidate Budge?
The Kosovo Consolidated Budget is an UNMIK prepared budget for Kosovo.
(see links 1 and 2):

link 1:

http://www.un.org/peace/kosovo/pages/unmik12.html

link 2:

http://www.m-magazine.org/sr/Kosovo/Government-does-not-terminate-the-funding-of-UNMIK-1365

This money comes mostly from U.S. tax payers (see link 3).
The independence and the sustenance of Kosovo in the end seems to be, at least in terms of funding, a U.S. government project.

link 3:

http://www.science.co.il/arab-israeli-conflict/articles/Anonymous-2003-08.asp

It would be kind of absurd for Serbia to fund protection of Albanians in Northern Kosovo.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

You're so brave...behind your computer...

(Hans, 28 December 2012 14:33)

I am much closer and more open to peace than you are. For you, the only solution is for Serbia to not only surrender its territory but to also acknowledge the surrendering as legitimate. It is not I, nor most Serbs to rule over your way of life and impose ourselves onto you.

Instead of using this opportunity to make a cement a stable peace agreement between the Serbian and Albanian people you look for more, places you don't even live in. Are you even giving peace any kind of chance? If you can't except Serbian existence on Kosovo i Metohija, as well as direct control over Serbian populated areas both north and south of the Ibar then you are being irrational, unrealistic and appear to have no interest in real negotiations.

Instead you come on here, talk tough and delude yourselves from believing NATO's strength is really yours.

Nori

pre 11 godina

(ida, 29 December 2012 05:29)

We are going in circles here ida, and that is why serbs will have peace with bosnia and crotia but you will never find peace with albanians becouse you are believing in lies. You have been lied to so much, by now it has become truth to you. You are saying that we got what we asked for, we were making trouble and we got trouble and that would be wery reasonable IF it were true which its not. But i am well aware of that, that is what all of you serbs think and you have your leaders to thank for propaganda becoming reality to you. To understand the conflict in Kosovo you must understand why and how kla came into being, what drove it, and why it spoke for all Albanians. We asked for peace and you answered with repression. I know you simply want to believe that Albanians are a violent people but that is not the case. Ida Serbs are responsible for todays nationalism that you see in albanians, its a simple case of action and reaction. You created this and you will have to live with that. Again if you knew what you have done in Kosovo your attitude would be different.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

There is a democratically elected government in Pristina? Did I miss something? I only remember some 'elections' last year (well, this mockery doesn't deserve to be called elections), organized by Kosovo Albanian authorities. The result: Massive fraud reported by numerous international observers, 100s of cases of voter intimidation, manipulated voter lists, bought votes, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% in his home clan region. Probably that's the interpretation of democracy in a (mafia) clan based society.
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 December 2012 21:01)
There were revotes taken in areas the observers say problems occurred, which final analysis (outside of Serbia) was that they were reasonably fair. Curious as to your view of recent Serbian elections. What happened to the bogus ballots that Nikolic had uncovered days before the election, did that announcement give him the edge to beat Tadic? Have not heard a word on it since he won!. Do you actually believe that Kosovo elections are worse than any of the other balkan states or Eastern Europe and definitely Russia?

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

You got one thing right thou, only total serb capitulation is expected and is happening while you are wasting you breath. And you are right about something else to Ari, for you i have not on millimeter of peace, not even a quark of peace!
(Nori, 28 December 2012 20:59)

I am glad you admit those things. And no, thankfully the Serbs of Kosovo i Metohija are giving you the middle finger to your total capitulation and in July 2011 when you tried to do something about it, it was your organ extractors who capitulated.

Toma

pre 11 godina

I feel sorry for the Serbs in kosova.

They are losing their only chance to peace and normal life.

They have high hopes of Belgrade with their biggest pins on their lapels but in reality Belgrade has ZERO ZERO ZERO control or ability in kosova.

They read their modern day prince lazars typing on b92 ( ari peggy and the other teenage American serbs ) saying kill this war that burn this from the security of their heated homes in the suburbs of America.

They cannot trust some Albanians in kosova because just like the rest of the world, there's a few bad people everywhere.

If the kosova Serbs would just form a govt and then demand that Prishtina recognize that the Serbs of kosova want to control their own lives then that will prove that these Serbs that people tell the hero stories about are real and not just old mans stories. But the kosova serbs would never do that because they cannot accept that to be a man and control your destiny and to do something that is greater than you and will make your sons and daughters lives 100% better than the track you are currently on would mean you HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE RIGHTS ATSARI PLAN GIVES YOU AND USE THEM.

Belgrade already told you and Serbia and Prishtina and the rest of the world that they will never ever ever rule kosova

God bless you all

ida

pre 11 godina

"where were you 30+ years ago when all we wanted was being treated as human-beings. Where were you when all those innocent albanians got killed during 98/99 and before that,, where were you when 1+ million albanians where expelled from Kosovo"

30 years ago Albanians were terrorizing Serbs out of Kosovo - even The New York Times had articles on Serbs leaving Kosovo due to Albanian violence. Albanians were also sabotaging the electric companies and other works - that from an electrical engineer who later left for the U.S. and works there.
You also left out that it was the Albanians which started the killings under the KLA - they even killed Albanians that in any way were connected with the official Serbian government - including forestry workers. Perhaps the Albanian forestry workers witnessed their training camps and that's why they were killed.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

" It is also UNMIK that transitioned authority to the democratically elected govrenment in Pristina."
(a New Day, 28 December 2012 18:03)

There is a democratically elected government in Pristina? Did I miss something? I only remember some 'elections' last year (well, this mockery doesn't deserve to be called elections), organized by Kosovo Albanian authorities. The result: Massive fraud reported by numerous international observers, 100s of cases of voter intimidation, manipulated voter lists, bought votes, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% in his home clan region. Probably that's the interpretation of democracy in a (mafia) clan based society.

Bridge

pre 11 godina

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK," he said.

This is the dumbest thing i've heard this year.

ida

pre 11 godina

Albanians were never loyal and they did commit a lot of violence against Serbs. Under Tito and even after, Kosovo Serbs were leaving due to Albanian attacks on them - but they were forbidden by the government to talk about it.
I know a guy from Canada who taught in Serbia years ago and his students were the children of Kosovo Serbs who'd been terrorized out in the early 1970's.
And one only has to look at how Albanians aren't getting along even with Macedonians. Albanians killed some teen boys fishing last spring and the towns there are becoming segregated and divided up.
Albania itself still has the blood feud going on and I read Albanian news and there are horrible murders all the time there.
I recently read of cases where husbands beat their wives severely - one died and the other was left in a coma.
And Albanian do heavily traffic drugs, weapons and people around Europe.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK,"
(Avi, 29 December 2012 11:31)

And Hashim may or may not agree so for now Serbia's taxpayers can foot the bill for this "no problem" :)

EA

pre 11 godina

A lot of "fears" from the guys....as long as that you still feed the people in northern Kosovo not to recognise Kosovo government...you really will fear....BUT please do not blame the others because we are getting tired of it.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

A lot of "fears" from the guys....as long as that you still feed the people in northern Kosovo not to recognise Kosovo government...you really will fear....BUT please do not blame the others because we are getting tired of it.
(EA, 28 December 2012 10:27)

The only people fear anything in regards to Kosovo i Metohija is Serbia's government because its sell out traitorous elite 'fears' being put in a position where its not defending its own people within its own state from ethnic violence, religious hatred and cultural genocide.

The people who fear the least are the Serbs still living in the occupation as well as Northern Kosovo. Despite having to deal with savagery on a daily basis they stay and that is what hurts you the most. They are some of the bravest people standing on this planet. This was evident in July of 2011 when ROSU terrorists showed up to try and occupy Northern Kosovo and the Serbs with its own state opposing them defeated you.

I wish the West would hurry up already with the creation of this 'kosovo army' so that you can be left to physically protect your occupation. Because if 40,000 Serbs could do that, just imagine the state of Serbia..wouldn't even be close.

Hans

pre 11 godina

Because if 40,000 Serbs could do that, just imagine the state of Serbia..wouldn't even be close.
(Ari Gold, 28 December 2012 11:33)

You're so brave...behind your computer...

In 1999, Serbia had nearly 200 000 soldiers, 1 500 tanks and thousands of IFVs. Albanians had nearly nothing inside, had to go through mine fields to try to bring in some AK-47...
And yet Serbia lost hundreds of policemen, soldiers and paramilitaries and used to shell civilians and villages in return...

Now Serbia has a post-soviet army, barely 28 000 soldiers, 200 tanks a few IFVs still able to roll whereas Kosovo has now tens of thousands arms "inside", mountains of amunitins, nearly 15 000 mens officially armed, a safe border with Albania, NATO country.

It doesn't mean Kosovo can defeat Serbia, it only shows that today's Serbian army has not even the means to protect correctly Serbia proper let alone threatening Kosovo...the most it could achieve could be occupying Leposavic or Zveçan e few days, nothing more...

Even a man like Nikolic is keen on promoting diplomatic means since he knows, far better than you, that military means do not exist any more...

And as to July 2011, if it wasn't for Kosovo gvt not to hinder its relations with the West, northern serbs would have appeared as brilliant as their cousins in Krahina in 1995...

so calm down mate

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"They said they were not leaving and we are happy about that. UNMIK will stay here in a reduced form. The reduction worries us, but the fact that UNMIK is staying is definitely important to us," Vulin said, adding that UNMIK could not leave, because the work in Kosovo was not finished.

UNFICYP troops stayed in Cyprus for more than 30 years now, so where's the problem with UNMIK staying in Kosovo (which has a similar status as a disputed territory)? Of course numbers of the UN can be reduced when the situation normalizes.

Nobody can deny that UNMIK's task is not finished yet. To remind you, part of it is enabling the safe return of all refugees and people expelled from Kosovo. There are still 10.000 of Serbs who didn't return yet, and the few 100s that dared to return are still endangered with Albanians extremists shooting at them, stoning their cars, looting and vandalizing their houses, and so on, and so on...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

" It is also UNMIK that transitioned authority to the democratically elected govrenment in Pristina."
(a New Day, 28 December 2012 18:03)

There is a democratically elected government in Pristina? Did I miss something? I only remember some 'elections' last year (well, this mockery doesn't deserve to be called elections), organized by Kosovo Albanian authorities. The result: Massive fraud reported by numerous international observers, 100s of cases of voter intimidation, manipulated voter lists, bought votes, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% in his home clan region. Probably that's the interpretation of democracy in a (mafia) clan based society.

Nori

pre 11 godina

(Ari Gold, 28 December 2012 20:19)

You are not getting it Ari, its to late for us to accept your peace-offering now, where were you 30+ years ago when all we wanted was being treated as human-beings. Where were you when all those innocent albanians got killed during 98/99 and before that,, where were you when 1+ million albanians where expelled from Kosovo. Where were you when ALL our homes and everything that had any affiliation with albanians got burnt down where were you when our children and loved ones got massacred and our women raped. And please please stop blaimng Nato for that, its pathetic. The very thing you accuse the albanians of is actually what you are Ari not me. We are not rapist we are not islamist radicals we are no murderers but we have had enough of you serbs. I am convinced that you do not know what was going on in Kosovo otherwise your attitude against Kosovo would not be as it is. You got one thing right thou, only total serb capitulation is expected and is happening while you are wasting you breath. And you are right about something else to Ari, for you i have not on millimeter of peace, not even a quark of peace!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"And as to July 2011, if it wasn't for Kosovo gvt not to hinder its relations with the West, northern serbs would have appeared as brilliant as their cousins in Krahina in 1995... "
(Hans, 28 December 2012 14:33)

'Kosovo government' and its relations with the west? Funny. Do you think the tail wags the dog?

Nori

pre 11 godina

Kosovo government' and its relations with the west? Funny. Do you think the tail wags the dog?
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 December 2012 15:19)

Haha nice one CP, you just made me think of Serbias relationship with Russia. Could ask you the same but of course in this case you think differently since Serbia is such a big and strong country.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

You're so brave...behind your computer...

(Hans, 28 December 2012 14:33)

I am much closer and more open to peace than you are. For you, the only solution is for Serbia to not only surrender its territory but to also acknowledge the surrendering as legitimate. It is not I, nor most Serbs to rule over your way of life and impose ourselves onto you.

Instead of using this opportunity to make a cement a stable peace agreement between the Serbian and Albanian people you look for more, places you don't even live in. Are you even giving peace any kind of chance? If you can't except Serbian existence on Kosovo i Metohija, as well as direct control over Serbian populated areas both north and south of the Ibar then you are being irrational, unrealistic and appear to have no interest in real negotiations.

Instead you come on here, talk tough and delude yourselves from believing NATO's strength is really yours.

ida

pre 11 godina

"where were you 30+ years ago when all we wanted was being treated as human-beings. Where were you when all those innocent albanians got killed during 98/99 and before that,, where were you when 1+ million albanians where expelled from Kosovo"

30 years ago Albanians were terrorizing Serbs out of Kosovo - even The New York Times had articles on Serbs leaving Kosovo due to Albanian violence. Albanians were also sabotaging the electric companies and other works - that from an electrical engineer who later left for the U.S. and works there.
You also left out that it was the Albanians which started the killings under the KLA - they even killed Albanians that in any way were connected with the official Serbian government - including forestry workers. Perhaps the Albanian forestry workers witnessed their training camps and that's why they were killed.

Avi

pre 11 godina

@icj1

""If the reason for UNMIK's reduction are technical difficulties and lack of funds, the problem can be solved," he stressed"

Nice... Serbia's taxpayers will pay - money is not a problem!
(icj1, 28 December 2012 19:19)

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK,"
Q: What is the Kosovo Consolidate Budge?
The Kosovo Consolidated Budget is an UNMIK prepared budget for Kosovo.
(see links 1 and 2):

link 1:

http://www.un.org/peace/kosovo/pages/unmik12.html

link 2:

http://www.m-magazine.org/sr/Kosovo/Government-does-not-terminate-the-funding-of-UNMIK-1365

This money comes mostly from U.S. tax payers (see link 3).
The independence and the sustenance of Kosovo in the end seems to be, at least in terms of funding, a U.S. government project.

link 3:

http://www.science.co.il/arab-israeli-conflict/articles/Anonymous-2003-08.asp

It would be kind of absurd for Serbia to fund protection of Albanians in Northern Kosovo.

Bridge

pre 11 godina

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK," he said.

This is the dumbest thing i've heard this year.

Toma

pre 11 godina

I feel sorry for the Serbs in kosova.

They are losing their only chance to peace and normal life.

They have high hopes of Belgrade with their biggest pins on their lapels but in reality Belgrade has ZERO ZERO ZERO control or ability in kosova.

They read their modern day prince lazars typing on b92 ( ari peggy and the other teenage American serbs ) saying kill this war that burn this from the security of their heated homes in the suburbs of America.

They cannot trust some Albanians in kosova because just like the rest of the world, there's a few bad people everywhere.

If the kosova Serbs would just form a govt and then demand that Prishtina recognize that the Serbs of kosova want to control their own lives then that will prove that these Serbs that people tell the hero stories about are real and not just old mans stories. But the kosova serbs would never do that because they cannot accept that to be a man and control your destiny and to do something that is greater than you and will make your sons and daughters lives 100% better than the track you are currently on would mean you HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE RIGHTS ATSARI PLAN GIVES YOU AND USE THEM.

Belgrade already told you and Serbia and Prishtina and the rest of the world that they will never ever ever rule kosova

God bless you all

a New Day

pre 11 godina

It is so funny to hear these comments. Up until EULEX take over, Serbs in the north(as well as Serbia) have always renounced the authority of UNMIK. They never participated in UNMIK called elections, and called for their removal from Kosovo. Still today they wave the UNMIK banner in defiance of Albanians, It has always been UNMIK's assertion that all of Kosovo was a single customs unit. It is also UNMIK that transitioned authority to the democratically elected govrenment in Pristina.

icj1

pre 11 godina

""If the reason for UNMIK's reduction are technical difficulties and lack of funds, the problem can be solved," he stressed"

Nice... Serbia's taxpayers will pay - money is not a problem!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

You got one thing right thou, only total serb capitulation is expected and is happening while you are wasting you breath. And you are right about something else to Ari, for you i have not on millimeter of peace, not even a quark of peace!
(Nori, 28 December 2012 20:59)

I am glad you admit those things. And no, thankfully the Serbs of Kosovo i Metohija are giving you the middle finger to your total capitulation and in July 2011 when you tried to do something about it, it was your organ extractors who capitulated.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

There is a democratically elected government in Pristina? Did I miss something? I only remember some 'elections' last year (well, this mockery doesn't deserve to be called elections), organized by Kosovo Albanian authorities. The result: Massive fraud reported by numerous international observers, 100s of cases of voter intimidation, manipulated voter lists, bought votes, and last but not least godfather Thaci being elected with 115% in his home clan region. Probably that's the interpretation of democracy in a (mafia) clan based society.
(Comm. Parrisson, 28 December 2012 21:01)
There were revotes taken in areas the observers say problems occurred, which final analysis (outside of Serbia) was that they were reasonably fair. Curious as to your view of recent Serbian elections. What happened to the bogus ballots that Nikolic had uncovered days before the election, did that announcement give him the edge to beat Tadic? Have not heard a word on it since he won!. Do you actually believe that Kosovo elections are worse than any of the other balkan states or Eastern Europe and definitely Russia?

Nori

pre 11 godina

(ida, 29 December 2012 05:29)

We are going in circles here ida, and that is why serbs will have peace with bosnia and crotia but you will never find peace with albanians becouse you are believing in lies. You have been lied to so much, by now it has become truth to you. You are saying that we got what we asked for, we were making trouble and we got trouble and that would be wery reasonable IF it were true which its not. But i am well aware of that, that is what all of you serbs think and you have your leaders to thank for propaganda becoming reality to you. To understand the conflict in Kosovo you must understand why and how kla came into being, what drove it, and why it spoke for all Albanians. We asked for peace and you answered with repression. I know you simply want to believe that Albanians are a violent people but that is not the case. Ida Serbs are responsible for todays nationalism that you see in albanians, its a simple case of action and reaction. You created this and you will have to live with that. Again if you knew what you have done in Kosovo your attitude would be different.

ida

pre 11 godina

Albanians were never loyal and they did commit a lot of violence against Serbs. Under Tito and even after, Kosovo Serbs were leaving due to Albanian attacks on them - but they were forbidden by the government to talk about it.
I know a guy from Canada who taught in Serbia years ago and his students were the children of Kosovo Serbs who'd been terrorized out in the early 1970's.
And one only has to look at how Albanians aren't getting along even with Macedonians. Albanians killed some teen boys fishing last spring and the towns there are becoming segregated and divided up.
Albania itself still has the blood feud going on and I read Albanian news and there are horrible murders all the time there.
I recently read of cases where husbands beat their wives severely - one died and the other was left in a coma.
And Albanian do heavily traffic drugs, weapons and people around Europe.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"I stated our concern and said that our Prime Minister Ivica Dačić would ask Hashim Thaci that the consolidated Kosovo budget start funding UNMIK,"
(Avi, 29 December 2012 11:31)

And Hashim may or may not agree so for now Serbia's taxpayers can foot the bill for this "no problem" :)