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Thursday, 27.12.2012.

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"No victory in Kosovo — but defeats must end"

Serbia has long lost its chance for a victory in Kosovo and Metohija, "but defeats must end", Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić told the Tanjug news agency.

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Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

that's the thing sunshine isn't it, apart from writing derogatory things on B92, there's nothing else you can do. so you indulge yourself in fantasies, we on the other hand will get on with life in a Kosova that is not Serbia :-) don't let the Siberian cold freeze your nuts

Yessaul - what an upgrade! Next time going to be a Getman, that's fun.

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
Kosovo and Makedonia must be free of Islam and return to Orthodoxy.
(Sergei, 28 December 2012 10:48)

As said a few times: the only better thing than Great Russia is Even Greater Russia. Period.
Is it based on Orthodoxy or not is of secondary importance but I don't mind Orthodoxy.

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

we're all dying pretty slowly :-)
(Nikolle, 28 December 2012 12:52)

If that process would be sped up... won't mind it. But we can't be more Serbs than Serbs, so it's up to them. There is always a handle to turn off the electricity and the heat, that would help the population, I mean, pest control in KosovA. I am sure, what I am saying is not politically correct but at least I am honest.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"We should reach an agreement with which Albanians will no longer be satisfied," Nikolić said."

That's why Serbia continues to lose over and over again... Instead of trying to push things that are a win for Serbia, its focus is on making others lose. Instead of trying to be in a race for better, Serbia wants to be in a race for less worse. Serbia will only do something that is opposite of what Kosovo says, regardless of whether it is good or bad. If Kosovo were to say to Tomislav please don't commit suicide, Tomislav will shoot himself immediately :)

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yes joining the EU will solve Serbia of its economic problems. Well if that’s the case why don’t they wave the magic wand and save all their EU members from the financial mess they are currently swimming in or perhaps reduce Spain’s 26% level of unemployment?????
(sj, 28 December 2012 10:47)

Because they want to punish Spain and Greece for not recognizing Kosovo... he, he, he (that's what my Malaysian friend who has access to secret high level info told me).

In any case, nothing would make Albanians more happy than Serbia not joining the EU. So you can count on Albanians' support for that.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
(Sergei, 28 December 2012 10:48)

Yeah, sure, as soon as Russia first manages to do that with its own Slavs who are leaving Russia

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

" As I have said many times you Albanians are going to die there slowly."

well, the life expectancy in kosova is around 70 years, so i guess you're right, we're all dying pretty slowly :-)

Mathias

pre 11 godina

Kosovo leaders must be also pragmatic as they can easely lost the imternational support as they continue to talk about big Albania. Everybody must be prepared to give something if both sides have intention to make a hystoric agrement.

sj

pre 11 godina

(Albanian, 28 December 2012 03:10)

Yes joining the EU will solve Serbia of its economic problems. Well if that’s the case why don’t they wave the magic wand and save all their EU members from the financial mess they are currently swimming in or perhaps reduce Spain’s 26% level of unemployment????? Or maybe return Slovenia to its old high living standards and we would not see those demonstrations everywhere in that country.
Kosovo is going nowhere until Belgrade says so and all of this that you see looks like it all just going around in circles. As I have said many times you Albanians are going to die there slowly.

Sergei

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
Kosovo and Makedonia must be free of Islam and return to Orthodoxy.

nik

pre 11 godina

Serbia has no option but to admit historic defeat. The Kosovo Platform would have been a possibility before 1999. Now it must be classified as a lost opportunity. And Serbia must not push its luck too much. As the American ambassador explained it, there are still many gains from previous victories that could be preserved for Serbia.

Peter

pre 11 godina

Nicolic is playing a very interesting game. He must know that Albanians, US, and Germans will not accept his platform. Playing for time is one thing but there must be something else. The economic bankruptcy of the US cannot happen that soon? Because that is the only thing that could change the forces on the ground. One thing is sure: Kosovo problem will not be resolved during his government.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

Apparently Serbia is running out of time, Serbia itself has projected that its unemployment would rise to 40% by next year unless EU candidacy is in the picture for Serbia. I strongly suggest Serbia concentrates on serbia's own problems. Kosova is not in the best situation either, but at least were not worried about others like Serbia is. Were fairly a new country barely recognized by 100 countries with Serbia portraying Kosova in worst possible way. Investing in north Kosova to cause problems rather than taking care of Serbian citizens in Serbia.

Mark

pre 11 godina

We should reach an agreement with which Albanians will no longer be satisfied," Nikolić said.

This is the president of Serbia. The president of a country that claims to be democratic and that it deserves to be a EU member. A president that 13 years ago was part of a government that killed ten thousand Albanians today wants to reach a "historical agreement" with Albanians.An agreement that must leave Albanians unsatisfied.

azir

pre 11 godina

@Ecoman,Ari and others

I am simply on a crusade for truth,justice,peace and self determination for our indigenous native brothers and sisiters in Kosova and other surrounding areas.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 11 godina

Just reading in between the lines here

No victory in kosovo = we can not govern Kosovo ever again

No more defeats in kosovo = we will try and implement an autonomy for Kosovo serbs within the state of Kosovo.. but we will not budge from this request for the time being, well until i retire

Man who would want to be the president of Serbia, its a loose loose situation..

EA

pre 11 godina

"...we want to respect our Constitution and (UNSC) Resolution 1244, and both documents refer to the substantial autonomy of Kosovo and Metohija."

Bless this guy, he is not asking too much....!)))

azir

pre 11 godina

@Ecoman,Ari and others

My mission is really quite simple.....

Truth
Justice
Peace

If this bothers you I apologize but I can't do anything for you.

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Azir, Ari said the politicians are losers, not Serbs. Are trying to tell me that the average Serb is any worse than the average Albanian? Why is it your mission to put Serbs down? What is it that you re trying to tell accomplish on this forum?

Amer

pre 11 godina

Amend your constitution to accord with reality and it will be a lot easier to respect it. According to an article in Pescanik a couple of days ago http://pescanik.net/2012/12/ironija-kosovske-platforme/, even the platform for negotiations the politicians are arguing over that is supposedly based on the constitution violates it, because the document is internally inconsistent. As a means of tying the government's hands in order to protect the vision of a politician whose party gets less than 8% of the vote to parliament, however, it's functioned just fine.

icj1

pre 11 godina

You guys are and always have been losers. The Serbian people do not share your views regarding Kosovo i Metohija, not one bit.
(Ari Gold, 27 December 2012 19:17)

Just a small detail that Tomislav is speaking on behalf of the Serbian people... I think you should take the lead and organize the patriotic Serbian diaspora, march to Belgrade and liberate it from the non-diaspora Serbs :)

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

BELGRADE -- Serbia has long lost its chance for a victory in Kosovo and Metohija, "but defeats must end", Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić told the Tanjug news agency.

Maybe for you clueless and ancient Titoists but the next generation does not share your pathetic defeatism. LOL you're the moron that went on a hunger strike for 2 days and quit which is very telling of the kind of person you are.

You guys are and always have been losers. The Serbian people do not share your views regarding Kosovo i Metohija, not one bit.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Asked "what is it that Serbia really wants in Kosovo", Nikolić replied: "We want to settle our relationship with the Albanians, we want to respect our Constitution and (UNSC) Resolution 1244, and both documents refer to the substantial autonomy of Kosovo and Metohija."


Not true. Your Serb constitution can claim planet Mars as far as I am concern, but 1244 does not say what you are saying. Unless, you are reading Serbian version of 1244, but English version prevails, since it is the source of the said document.

azir

pre 11 godina

If Serbia's President were a reasonable and not hypocritical gentleman.........

He would only ask for what he himself has offered the minorities in Serbia.

And thank you Ari for admitting Serbs are losers.

Give what you get and watch how you progress..........

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

BELGRADE -- Serbia has long lost its chance for a victory in Kosovo and Metohija, "but defeats must end", Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić told the Tanjug news agency.

Maybe for you clueless and ancient Titoists but the next generation does not share your pathetic defeatism. LOL you're the moron that went on a hunger strike for 2 days and quit which is very telling of the kind of person you are.

You guys are and always have been losers. The Serbian people do not share your views regarding Kosovo i Metohija, not one bit.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Asked "what is it that Serbia really wants in Kosovo", Nikolić replied: "We want to settle our relationship with the Albanians, we want to respect our Constitution and (UNSC) Resolution 1244, and both documents refer to the substantial autonomy of Kosovo and Metohija."


Not true. Your Serb constitution can claim planet Mars as far as I am concern, but 1244 does not say what you are saying. Unless, you are reading Serbian version of 1244, but English version prevails, since it is the source of the said document.

azir

pre 11 godina

If Serbia's President were a reasonable and not hypocritical gentleman.........

He would only ask for what he himself has offered the minorities in Serbia.

And thank you Ari for admitting Serbs are losers.

Give what you get and watch how you progress..........

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Azir, Ari said the politicians are losers, not Serbs. Are trying to tell me that the average Serb is any worse than the average Albanian? Why is it your mission to put Serbs down? What is it that you re trying to tell accomplish on this forum?

icj1

pre 11 godina

You guys are and always have been losers. The Serbian people do not share your views regarding Kosovo i Metohija, not one bit.
(Ari Gold, 27 December 2012 19:17)

Just a small detail that Tomislav is speaking on behalf of the Serbian people... I think you should take the lead and organize the patriotic Serbian diaspora, march to Belgrade and liberate it from the non-diaspora Serbs :)

Amer

pre 11 godina

Amend your constitution to accord with reality and it will be a lot easier to respect it. According to an article in Pescanik a couple of days ago http://pescanik.net/2012/12/ironija-kosovske-platforme/, even the platform for negotiations the politicians are arguing over that is supposedly based on the constitution violates it, because the document is internally inconsistent. As a means of tying the government's hands in order to protect the vision of a politician whose party gets less than 8% of the vote to parliament, however, it's functioned just fine.

Mark

pre 11 godina

We should reach an agreement with which Albanians will no longer be satisfied," Nikolić said.

This is the president of Serbia. The president of a country that claims to be democratic and that it deserves to be a EU member. A president that 13 years ago was part of a government that killed ten thousand Albanians today wants to reach a "historical agreement" with Albanians.An agreement that must leave Albanians unsatisfied.

Peter

pre 11 godina

Nicolic is playing a very interesting game. He must know that Albanians, US, and Germans will not accept his platform. Playing for time is one thing but there must be something else. The economic bankruptcy of the US cannot happen that soon? Because that is the only thing that could change the forces on the ground. One thing is sure: Kosovo problem will not be resolved during his government.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

Apparently Serbia is running out of time, Serbia itself has projected that its unemployment would rise to 40% by next year unless EU candidacy is in the picture for Serbia. I strongly suggest Serbia concentrates on serbia's own problems. Kosova is not in the best situation either, but at least were not worried about others like Serbia is. Were fairly a new country barely recognized by 100 countries with Serbia portraying Kosova in worst possible way. Investing in north Kosova to cause problems rather than taking care of Serbian citizens in Serbia.

nik

pre 11 godina

Serbia has no option but to admit historic defeat. The Kosovo Platform would have been a possibility before 1999. Now it must be classified as a lost opportunity. And Serbia must not push its luck too much. As the American ambassador explained it, there are still many gains from previous victories that could be preserved for Serbia.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

" As I have said many times you Albanians are going to die there slowly."

well, the life expectancy in kosova is around 70 years, so i guess you're right, we're all dying pretty slowly :-)

EA

pre 11 godina

"...we want to respect our Constitution and (UNSC) Resolution 1244, and both documents refer to the substantial autonomy of Kosovo and Metohija."

Bless this guy, he is not asking too much....!)))

azir

pre 11 godina

@Ecoman,Ari and others

I am simply on a crusade for truth,justice,peace and self determination for our indigenous native brothers and sisiters in Kosova and other surrounding areas.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 11 godina

Just reading in between the lines here

No victory in kosovo = we can not govern Kosovo ever again

No more defeats in kosovo = we will try and implement an autonomy for Kosovo serbs within the state of Kosovo.. but we will not budge from this request for the time being, well until i retire

Man who would want to be the president of Serbia, its a loose loose situation..

icj1

pre 11 godina

"We should reach an agreement with which Albanians will no longer be satisfied," Nikolić said."

That's why Serbia continues to lose over and over again... Instead of trying to push things that are a win for Serbia, its focus is on making others lose. Instead of trying to be in a race for better, Serbia wants to be in a race for less worse. Serbia will only do something that is opposite of what Kosovo says, regardless of whether it is good or bad. If Kosovo were to say to Tomislav please don't commit suicide, Tomislav will shoot himself immediately :)

azir

pre 11 godina

@Ecoman,Ari and others

My mission is really quite simple.....

Truth
Justice
Peace

If this bothers you I apologize but I can't do anything for you.

Sergei

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
Kosovo and Makedonia must be free of Islam and return to Orthodoxy.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

that's the thing sunshine isn't it, apart from writing derogatory things on B92, there's nothing else you can do. so you indulge yourself in fantasies, we on the other hand will get on with life in a Kosova that is not Serbia :-) don't let the Siberian cold freeze your nuts

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yes joining the EU will solve Serbia of its economic problems. Well if that’s the case why don’t they wave the magic wand and save all their EU members from the financial mess they are currently swimming in or perhaps reduce Spain’s 26% level of unemployment?????
(sj, 28 December 2012 10:47)

Because they want to punish Spain and Greece for not recognizing Kosovo... he, he, he (that's what my Malaysian friend who has access to secret high level info told me).

In any case, nothing would make Albanians more happy than Serbia not joining the EU. So you can count on Albanians' support for that.

sj

pre 11 godina

(Albanian, 28 December 2012 03:10)

Yes joining the EU will solve Serbia of its economic problems. Well if that’s the case why don’t they wave the magic wand and save all their EU members from the financial mess they are currently swimming in or perhaps reduce Spain’s 26% level of unemployment????? Or maybe return Slovenia to its old high living standards and we would not see those demonstrations everywhere in that country.
Kosovo is going nowhere until Belgrade says so and all of this that you see looks like it all just going around in circles. As I have said many times you Albanians are going to die there slowly.

Mathias

pre 11 godina

Kosovo leaders must be also pragmatic as they can easely lost the imternational support as they continue to talk about big Albania. Everybody must be prepared to give something if both sides have intention to make a hystoric agrement.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
(Sergei, 28 December 2012 10:48)

Yeah, sure, as soon as Russia first manages to do that with its own Slavs who are leaving Russia

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

we're all dying pretty slowly :-)
(Nikolle, 28 December 2012 12:52)

If that process would be sped up... won't mind it. But we can't be more Serbs than Serbs, so it's up to them. There is always a handle to turn off the electricity and the heat, that would help the population, I mean, pest control in KosovA. I am sure, what I am saying is not politically correct but at least I am honest.

Yessaul - what an upgrade! Next time going to be a Getman, that's fun.

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
Kosovo and Makedonia must be free of Islam and return to Orthodoxy.
(Sergei, 28 December 2012 10:48)

As said a few times: the only better thing than Great Russia is Even Greater Russia. Period.
Is it based on Orthodoxy or not is of secondary importance but I don't mind Orthodoxy.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Asked "what is it that Serbia really wants in Kosovo", Nikolić replied: "We want to settle our relationship with the Albanians, we want to respect our Constitution and (UNSC) Resolution 1244, and both documents refer to the substantial autonomy of Kosovo and Metohija."


Not true. Your Serb constitution can claim planet Mars as far as I am concern, but 1244 does not say what you are saying. Unless, you are reading Serbian version of 1244, but English version prevails, since it is the source of the said document.

azir

pre 11 godina

If Serbia's President were a reasonable and not hypocritical gentleman.........

He would only ask for what he himself has offered the minorities in Serbia.

And thank you Ari for admitting Serbs are losers.

Give what you get and watch how you progress..........

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

BELGRADE -- Serbia has long lost its chance for a victory in Kosovo and Metohija, "but defeats must end", Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić told the Tanjug news agency.

Maybe for you clueless and ancient Titoists but the next generation does not share your pathetic defeatism. LOL you're the moron that went on a hunger strike for 2 days and quit which is very telling of the kind of person you are.

You guys are and always have been losers. The Serbian people do not share your views regarding Kosovo i Metohija, not one bit.

icj1

pre 11 godina

You guys are and always have been losers. The Serbian people do not share your views regarding Kosovo i Metohija, not one bit.
(Ari Gold, 27 December 2012 19:17)

Just a small detail that Tomislav is speaking on behalf of the Serbian people... I think you should take the lead and organize the patriotic Serbian diaspora, march to Belgrade and liberate it from the non-diaspora Serbs :)

Ecoman

pre 11 godina

Azir, Ari said the politicians are losers, not Serbs. Are trying to tell me that the average Serb is any worse than the average Albanian? Why is it your mission to put Serbs down? What is it that you re trying to tell accomplish on this forum?

Amer

pre 11 godina

Amend your constitution to accord with reality and it will be a lot easier to respect it. According to an article in Pescanik a couple of days ago http://pescanik.net/2012/12/ironija-kosovske-platforme/, even the platform for negotiations the politicians are arguing over that is supposedly based on the constitution violates it, because the document is internally inconsistent. As a means of tying the government's hands in order to protect the vision of a politician whose party gets less than 8% of the vote to parliament, however, it's functioned just fine.

Sergei

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
Kosovo and Makedonia must be free of Islam and return to Orthodoxy.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

Apparently Serbia is running out of time, Serbia itself has projected that its unemployment would rise to 40% by next year unless EU candidacy is in the picture for Serbia. I strongly suggest Serbia concentrates on serbia's own problems. Kosova is not in the best situation either, but at least were not worried about others like Serbia is. Were fairly a new country barely recognized by 100 countries with Serbia portraying Kosova in worst possible way. Investing in north Kosova to cause problems rather than taking care of Serbian citizens in Serbia.

sj

pre 11 godina

(Albanian, 28 December 2012 03:10)

Yes joining the EU will solve Serbia of its economic problems. Well if that’s the case why don’t they wave the magic wand and save all their EU members from the financial mess they are currently swimming in or perhaps reduce Spain’s 26% level of unemployment????? Or maybe return Slovenia to its old high living standards and we would not see those demonstrations everywhere in that country.
Kosovo is going nowhere until Belgrade says so and all of this that you see looks like it all just going around in circles. As I have said many times you Albanians are going to die there slowly.

azir

pre 11 godina

@Ecoman,Ari and others

My mission is really quite simple.....

Truth
Justice
Peace

If this bothers you I apologize but I can't do anything for you.

EA

pre 11 godina

"...we want to respect our Constitution and (UNSC) Resolution 1244, and both documents refer to the substantial autonomy of Kosovo and Metohija."

Bless this guy, he is not asking too much....!)))

azir

pre 11 godina

@Ecoman,Ari and others

I am simply on a crusade for truth,justice,peace and self determination for our indigenous native brothers and sisiters in Kosova and other surrounding areas.

Mathias

pre 11 godina

Kosovo leaders must be also pragmatic as they can easely lost the imternational support as they continue to talk about big Albania. Everybody must be prepared to give something if both sides have intention to make a hystoric agrement.

Mark

pre 11 godina

We should reach an agreement with which Albanians will no longer be satisfied," Nikolić said.

This is the president of Serbia. The president of a country that claims to be democratic and that it deserves to be a EU member. A president that 13 years ago was part of a government that killed ten thousand Albanians today wants to reach a "historical agreement" with Albanians.An agreement that must leave Albanians unsatisfied.

Bulgar of Ohrid

pre 11 godina

Just reading in between the lines here

No victory in kosovo = we can not govern Kosovo ever again

No more defeats in kosovo = we will try and implement an autonomy for Kosovo serbs within the state of Kosovo.. but we will not budge from this request for the time being, well until i retire

Man who would want to be the president of Serbia, its a loose loose situation..

Yessaul

pre 11 godina

we're all dying pretty slowly :-)
(Nikolle, 28 December 2012 12:52)

If that process would be sped up... won't mind it. But we can't be more Serbs than Serbs, so it's up to them. There is always a handle to turn off the electricity and the heat, that would help the population, I mean, pest control in KosovA. I am sure, what I am saying is not politically correct but at least I am honest.

nik

pre 11 godina

Serbia has no option but to admit historic defeat. The Kosovo Platform would have been a possibility before 1999. Now it must be classified as a lost opportunity. And Serbia must not push its luck too much. As the American ambassador explained it, there are still many gains from previous victories that could be preserved for Serbia.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

" As I have said many times you Albanians are going to die there slowly."

well, the life expectancy in kosova is around 70 years, so i guess you're right, we're all dying pretty slowly :-)

Yessaul - what an upgrade! Next time going to be a Getman, that's fun.

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
Kosovo and Makedonia must be free of Islam and return to Orthodoxy.
(Sergei, 28 December 2012 10:48)

As said a few times: the only better thing than Great Russia is Even Greater Russia. Period.
Is it based on Orthodoxy or not is of secondary importance but I don't mind Orthodoxy.

Peter

pre 11 godina

Nicolic is playing a very interesting game. He must know that Albanians, US, and Germans will not accept his platform. Playing for time is one thing but there must be something else. The economic bankruptcy of the US cannot happen that soon? Because that is the only thing that could change the forces on the ground. One thing is sure: Kosovo problem will not be resolved during his government.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Russia must unite all East Slavs and push back the colonist forces.
(Sergei, 28 December 2012 10:48)

Yeah, sure, as soon as Russia first manages to do that with its own Slavs who are leaving Russia

icj1

pre 11 godina

Yes joining the EU will solve Serbia of its economic problems. Well if that’s the case why don’t they wave the magic wand and save all their EU members from the financial mess they are currently swimming in or perhaps reduce Spain’s 26% level of unemployment?????
(sj, 28 December 2012 10:47)

Because they want to punish Spain and Greece for not recognizing Kosovo... he, he, he (that's what my Malaysian friend who has access to secret high level info told me).

In any case, nothing would make Albanians more happy than Serbia not joining the EU. So you can count on Albanians' support for that.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"We should reach an agreement with which Albanians will no longer be satisfied," Nikolić said."

That's why Serbia continues to lose over and over again... Instead of trying to push things that are a win for Serbia, its focus is on making others lose. Instead of trying to be in a race for better, Serbia wants to be in a race for less worse. Serbia will only do something that is opposite of what Kosovo says, regardless of whether it is good or bad. If Kosovo were to say to Tomislav please don't commit suicide, Tomislav will shoot himself immediately :)

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

Yessaul

that's the thing sunshine isn't it, apart from writing derogatory things on B92, there's nothing else you can do. so you indulge yourself in fantasies, we on the other hand will get on with life in a Kosova that is not Serbia :-) don't let the Siberian cold freeze your nuts