Belgrade, Priština reach agreement on customs duty

If Serbia were to allow Kosovo join CEFTA as opposed to UNMIK, this issue could have been avoided all together.

Now tax has to be paid on alcohol, tobacco, petrol, diesel and Narcotics ect when intended for Northern Kosovo and tax has to be paid on everyhthing when intended for the rest of Kosovo. Of course all of these goods can go to Northern Kosovo and the rest of Kosovo duty free if they enter Kosovo through Montenegro, Albania or Macedonia as Kosovo has free trade agreements with these countries, but not with Serbia. Serbia exports 12 times more goods to Kosovo than it imports from Kosovo. So who is the real looser from paying tax here?

@Daniel,

With such a comment, you don't need any more heroin, apparently you've had enough.

@Common Sense (Which doesnt fit u at all by the way)Whats wrong with my comment?Dont u know that albanians distribute 90%of the heroin that reaches europe?
(Daniel

Too much heroin, Danny boy, too much heroin!

We should make Albanians pay tax for every ounce of heroin they distribute from Kosovo through Serbia aimed for the rest of europe. Then every citizen would become a multimillionaire.

@Common Sense (Which doesnt fit u at all by the way)Whats wrong with my comment?Dont u know that albanians distribute 90%of the heroin that reaches europe?

At face value, I don't think this is such a bad agreement. It tends to take each side into consideration and reflects the reality on the ground. It is in line with more than autonomy and less than independence. So far so good.

They violate the agreement and you say "sure lets change the agreement" ? that is terrible. Kosovo could be back in serbia by now, they shouldve done that instead.

(Ian, UK, 19 December 2012 10:21)
Apart from BS what does Kosovo have to export? Or are you talking about Kosovo on Mars?

Don't know how many thousands upon thousans of albanians pass through Serbia every year. Either to go on vaccation or returning from Europe after being expelled. How about asking all of them to pay customs each time they pass through? If albanians want to make life difficult for serbs in Kosovo I think ist only fair to return the favour.

its amazing how you Albos come on here because you have nothing better to do..or your own forums to post on.. and yet sit here and act all educated and smart with the situation on the ground..yet deny that albanian gangs are the biggest drug smugglers in europe. I dont know who youre trying to fool. You put all these funny names..."cry me a river", "common sense", etc, etc. Probably time to grow up a bit and come in touch with the reality of what is going on because you all seem to be completely lost. There's just so much available to watch and see how "Kosovo" life is these days..that there's no excuse to not know. Go on youtube for Gods sake..watch some videos. Many good, innocent Albanians can't stand the way things are run, its so crooked, that if the average American knew..they'd be overly disguisted. By the way..this is huge agreement for Serbs in north Kosovo. No customs..means no border. Until further notice..this is a great agreement so far. Keep at it Ivica.

At face value, I don't think this is such a bad agreement. It tends to take each side into consideration and reflects the reality on the ground. It is in line with more than autonomy and less than independence. So far so good.
(Zoran, 19 December 2012 15:36)

Zoran,

If you like the agreement then I have a bridge for sale you might want to buy.

Serbia sure got the short end of the stick, but if your happy with that then you shouldn't object when sj says Serbia got screwed again.

Apart from BS what does Kosovo have to export? Or are you talking about Kosovo on Mars?
(sj, 19 December 2012 21:55)

I'm not talking about the Kosovo on Mars, I'm talking about the country in South-eastern Europe.

Here in the UK, we imported 140% more goods/ resources in 2012 than we did in 2011, mainly in the agricultural, energy, mining and food processing sectors.

Turkey imports a lot Kosovan goods from the textile, metal and meat processing sectors.

Does this give you a clue/ an idea as to what Kosovo exports yet?

Since 2008, Kosovo has been open for business. This is why Kosovo has the fastest growing economy in Europe. This is why 37% of Kosovo was classed as being in Poverty in 2007 and by 2010 in had dropped to 30% (7% is a lot in 3 years) and it will have decreased further as we're now almost in 2013. Also in 2007, 55% of Kosovo was unemployed, by 2010 in had dropped to 40% (15% is a lot in three years) and what will it be in 2013? I don't know, 30-35% maybe? This is why in 2011, Kosovo had a GDP per capita of $7,043-$6,500 and in 2007 Kosovo it was $1,800.

You're the one who claims to be an expert on economics, you should know all this.

Do you really think the West would support the independence of Kosovo if they couldn't make serious money?

Is the jigsaw fitting together yet? Are the bells ringing in symphony yet? BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! Have you hit the jackpot yet???

Or does 7.8% still equal 1 in 5?

Please read the detail of agreement my dear Serbian citizens of Albanian ethnicity ;

“Vehicles carrying goods that are not subject to excise tax will be able to enter northern Kosovo without clearance, which also applies to excise goods weighing up to three and a half tons,”
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=19&nav_id=83731

EVERYTHING LESS THAN 3.5 TONS ENTERS WITHOUT CLEARANCE ! Which means no customs on any goods below 3.5 Tons, no involvement or control by parralel ethnic Albanian representatives in Serbia's southern province!

Now Count Kosov"A" ask yourself who stitched you up - EU or Thaci ???

(The Count of Kosova, 19 December 2012 18:30)

Wait for the dust to settle and see if Serbia got screwed mate. Never jump for joy too soon because how is Kosovo going to survive? Where is the industry to employ the so called 80% unemployed?
I’ve always loved at how Kosovo is some kind of industrial giant when it does not have enough water energy of anything for that matter.
The EU has run out of cash – ask the Croats or Slovenes, you do recall the Slovenes that propped up Serbia and now are broke. Ask them what Brussels’ response to an injection of cash.
Remember think long term – the EU want the Albanians to seek work in Serbia and not in the EU countries.

Please read the detail of agreement my dear Serbian citizens of Albanian ethnicity ;

“Vehicles carrying goods that are not subject to excise tax will be able to enter northern Kosovo without clearance, which also applies to excise goods weighing up to three and a half tons,”
[link]

EVERYTHING LESS THAN 3.5 TONS ENTERS WITHOUT CLEARANCE ! Which means no customs on any goods below 3.5 Tons, no involvement or control by parralel ethnic Albanian representatives in Serbia's southern province!

Now Count Kosov"A" ask yourself who stitched you up - EU or Thaci ???
(No Clearance required, 20 December 2012 02:42)

You do realise that goods which are travelling from Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia into Kosovo can enter Kosovo a lot more freely than goods entering Kosovo from Serbia?

Serbian goods can only enter Kosovo tax free if they're under 3.5 Tons (not including excise goods) when intended for Northern Kosovo only. And tax has to be paid if the goods are going South of the Ibar.

Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia can have goods (including excise goods) enter Kosovo with no restrictions or tax what-so-ever, regardless of the weight.

So who has really been stitched up here? Serbia has.

All Serbia has achieved is a partial free trade agreement with a very small part of Kosovo; whereas Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia have a full free trade agreement with all of Kosovo. But you can dress it up as a victory if it makes you feel good about yourself.

(Ian, UK, 20 December 2012 00:09)

You give these Albanian geniuses enough rope they end up hanging themselves and go straight to the CIA world book and quote drivel by the bucket load.

Kosovo export textiles and meat eh? Considering the size of this Kosovo just how much meat is exported when you have more people than animals?

Textiles? I can ship textiles cheaper and better quality from China to Kosovo than you can produce it there. But where do you source the raw materials? Import them? Or do you also grow cotton during the winter months?

Yes its only 7.8% just like the US is only 7.2% - We are going through the worst recession/depression in history and unemployment is falling in the US and UK. Here is some advice; when mother sends to the market don’t trade in your cow for magic beans.

When are you permanently moving to that Albanian paradise called Kosovo?

All Serbia has achieved is a partial free trade agreement with a very small part of Kosovo; whereas Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia have a full free trade agreement with all of Kosovo. But you can dress it up as a victory if it makes you feel good about yourself.
(Ian, UK, 20 December 2012 15:43)

Maybe you should look up the percentage of goods entering kosovo from Serbia and compare it with the percentage of goods entering from the countries you mentioned. If you do that you will see that more than 70%of the goods they import travels through Serbia. When it comes to groceries and medicine the percentage is even higher.

Both sides can keep doing the contraband they were already doing. "Good". The so much sought "rule of law" in the north starts by saying "no rules and no controls" for things under 3.5 tons. We'll see how it goes. Personally, I am starting to get disappointed. Certain people from both sides benefit from lawlessness as B92 showed and the only entity who has some leverage to force some control, the EU, is doing nothing so far. Not sure what their game is.

You give these Albanian geniuses enough rope they end up hanging themselves and go straight to the CIA world book and quote drivel by the bucket load.

Kosovo export textiles and meat eh? Considering the size of this Kosovo just how much meat is exported when you have more people than animals?

Textiles? I can ship textiles cheaper and better quality from China to Kosovo than you can produce it there. But where do you source the raw materials? Import them? Or do you also grow cotton during the winter months?

Yes its only 7.8% just like the US is only 7.2% - We are going through the worst recession/depression in history and unemployment is falling in the US and UK. Here is some advice; when mother sends to the market don’t trade in your cow for magic beans.

When are you permanently moving to that Albanian paradise called Kosovo?
(sj, 20 December 2012 23:00)

I have no idea what the "CIA World Book" is. And I don't have a copy.

These are facts. I'm sorry that these facts don't fit in with your crazy theories. And yes you may be able to get better textiles from China but it isn't stopping Kosovo from exporting textiles and making money.

This may be the "worst recession/depression in history" but I'm certainly not feeling the affects of it. Life is good and I have plenty of money in my pocket!

Why would I move to Kosovo? I'm happy in my own country thank you very much, I have a job here too btw. When are you moving to Serbia?

Maybe you should look up the percentage of goods entering kosovo from Serbia and compare it with the percentage of goods entering from the countries you mentioned. If you do that you will see that more than 70%of the goods they import travels through Serbia. When it comes to groceries and medicine the percentage is even higher.
(Daniel, 21 December 2012 09:15)

Kosovo's two biggest trade parteners are Macedonia and Turkey. It makes no logical sense for them goods to travel through Serbia first before entering Kosovo. And a lot of goods which Kosovo imports arrive at Pristina Airport of via the sea from the Port of Durres before entering Kosovo.

Why would I move to Kosovo? I'm happy in my own country thank you very much, I have a job here too btw. When are you moving to Serbia?
(Ian, UK, 21 December 2012 10:32)

There is an old Australian saying “stop it or you will go blind”. Kosovo has industries – please go tell it to your grandmother. While you’re at it tell her that the UK only has 7.2% unemployment.
You know Slovenia it’s the one that with Croatia propped up Serbia is now in trouble because the lies have come home to roost and the EU is no longer willing to financially support up and you talk of this magic Kosovo. Please grow up.
Just what do you do for a living?

We should make Albanians pay tax for every ounce of heroin they distribute from Kosovo through Serbia aimed for the rest of europe. Then every citizen would become a multimillionaire.

@Common Sense (Which doesnt fit u at all by the way)Whats wrong with my comment?Dont u know that albanians distribute 90%of the heroin that reaches europe?

@Daniel,

With such a comment, you don't need any more heroin, apparently you've had enough.

If Serbia were to allow Kosovo join CEFTA as opposed to UNMIK, this issue could have been avoided all together.

Now tax has to be paid on alcohol, tobacco, petrol, diesel and Narcotics ect when intended for Northern Kosovo and tax has to be paid on everyhthing when intended for the rest of Kosovo. Of course all of these goods can go to Northern Kosovo and the rest of Kosovo duty free if they enter Kosovo through Montenegro, Albania or Macedonia as Kosovo has free trade agreements with these countries, but not with Serbia. Serbia exports 12 times more goods to Kosovo than it imports from Kosovo. So who is the real looser from paying tax here?

At face value, I don't think this is such a bad agreement. It tends to take each side into consideration and reflects the reality on the ground. It is in line with more than autonomy and less than independence. So far so good.

They violate the agreement and you say "sure lets change the agreement" ? that is terrible. Kosovo could be back in serbia by now, they shouldve done that instead.

(Ian, UK, 19 December 2012 10:21)
Apart from BS what does Kosovo have to export? Or are you talking about Kosovo on Mars?

its amazing how you Albos come on here because you have nothing better to do..or your own forums to post on.. and yet sit here and act all educated and smart with the situation on the ground..yet deny that albanian gangs are the biggest drug smugglers in europe. I dont know who youre trying to fool. You put all these funny names..."cry me a river", "common sense", etc, etc. Probably time to grow up a bit and come in touch with the reality of what is going on because you all seem to be completely lost. There's just so much available to watch and see how "Kosovo" life is these days..that there's no excuse to not know. Go on youtube for Gods sake..watch some videos. Many good, innocent Albanians can't stand the way things are run, its so crooked, that if the average American knew..they'd be overly disguisted. By the way..this is huge agreement for Serbs in north Kosovo. No customs..means no border. Until further notice..this is a great agreement so far. Keep at it Ivica.

@Common Sense (Which doesnt fit u at all by the way)Whats wrong with my comment?Dont u know that albanians distribute 90%of the heroin that reaches europe?
(Daniel

Too much heroin, Danny boy, too much heroin!

Don't know how many thousands upon thousans of albanians pass through Serbia every year. Either to go on vaccation or returning from Europe after being expelled. How about asking all of them to pay customs each time they pass through? If albanians want to make life difficult for serbs in Kosovo I think ist only fair to return the favour.

At face value, I don't think this is such a bad agreement. It tends to take each side into consideration and reflects the reality on the ground. It is in line with more than autonomy and less than independence. So far so good.
(Zoran, 19 December 2012 15:36)

Zoran,

If you like the agreement then I have a bridge for sale you might want to buy.

Serbia sure got the short end of the stick, but if your happy with that then you shouldn't object when sj says Serbia got screwed again.

Please read the detail of agreement my dear Serbian citizens of Albanian ethnicity ;

“Vehicles carrying goods that are not subject to excise tax will be able to enter northern Kosovo without clearance, which also applies to excise goods weighing up to three and a half tons,”
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=19&nav_id=83731

EVERYTHING LESS THAN 3.5 TONS ENTERS WITHOUT CLEARANCE ! Which means no customs on any goods below 3.5 Tons, no involvement or control by parralel ethnic Albanian representatives in Serbia's southern province!

Now Count Kosov"A" ask yourself who stitched you up - EU or Thaci ???

(The Count of Kosova, 19 December 2012 18:30)

Wait for the dust to settle and see if Serbia got screwed mate. Never jump for joy too soon because how is Kosovo going to survive? Where is the industry to employ the so called 80% unemployed?
I’ve always loved at how Kosovo is some kind of industrial giant when it does not have enough water energy of anything for that matter.
The EU has run out of cash – ask the Croats or Slovenes, you do recall the Slovenes that propped up Serbia and now are broke. Ask them what Brussels’ response to an injection of cash.
Remember think long term – the EU want the Albanians to seek work in Serbia and not in the EU countries.

Apart from BS what does Kosovo have to export? Or are you talking about Kosovo on Mars?
(sj, 19 December 2012 21:55)

I'm not talking about the Kosovo on Mars, I'm talking about the country in South-eastern Europe.

Here in the UK, we imported 140% more goods/ resources in 2012 than we did in 2011, mainly in the agricultural, energy, mining and food processing sectors.

Turkey imports a lot Kosovan goods from the textile, metal and meat processing sectors.

Does this give you a clue/ an idea as to what Kosovo exports yet?

Since 2008, Kosovo has been open for business. This is why Kosovo has the fastest growing economy in Europe. This is why 37% of Kosovo was classed as being in Poverty in 2007 and by 2010 in had dropped to 30% (7% is a lot in 3 years) and it will have decreased further as we're now almost in 2013. Also in 2007, 55% of Kosovo was unemployed, by 2010 in had dropped to 40% (15% is a lot in three years) and what will it be in 2013? I don't know, 30-35% maybe? This is why in 2011, Kosovo had a GDP per capita of $7,043-$6,500 and in 2007 Kosovo it was $1,800.

You're the one who claims to be an expert on economics, you should know all this.

Do you really think the West would support the independence of Kosovo if they couldn't make serious money?

Is the jigsaw fitting together yet? Are the bells ringing in symphony yet? BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! Have you hit the jackpot yet???

Or does 7.8% still equal 1 in 5?

Please read the detail of agreement my dear Serbian citizens of Albanian ethnicity ;

“Vehicles carrying goods that are not subject to excise tax will be able to enter northern Kosovo without clearance, which also applies to excise goods weighing up to three and a half tons,”
[link]

EVERYTHING LESS THAN 3.5 TONS ENTERS WITHOUT CLEARANCE ! Which means no customs on any goods below 3.5 Tons, no involvement or control by parralel ethnic Albanian representatives in Serbia's southern province!

Now Count Kosov"A" ask yourself who stitched you up - EU or Thaci ???
(No Clearance required, 20 December 2012 02:42)

You do realise that goods which are travelling from Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia into Kosovo can enter Kosovo a lot more freely than goods entering Kosovo from Serbia?

Serbian goods can only enter Kosovo tax free if they're under 3.5 Tons (not including excise goods) when intended for Northern Kosovo only. And tax has to be paid if the goods are going South of the Ibar.

Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia can have goods (including excise goods) enter Kosovo with no restrictions or tax what-so-ever, regardless of the weight.

So who has really been stitched up here? Serbia has.

All Serbia has achieved is a partial free trade agreement with a very small part of Kosovo; whereas Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia have a full free trade agreement with all of Kosovo. But you can dress it up as a victory if it makes you feel good about yourself.

(Ian, UK, 20 December 2012 00:09)

You give these Albanian geniuses enough rope they end up hanging themselves and go straight to the CIA world book and quote drivel by the bucket load.

Kosovo export textiles and meat eh? Considering the size of this Kosovo just how much meat is exported when you have more people than animals?

Textiles? I can ship textiles cheaper and better quality from China to Kosovo than you can produce it there. But where do you source the raw materials? Import them? Or do you also grow cotton during the winter months?

Yes its only 7.8% just like the US is only 7.2% - We are going through the worst recession/depression in history and unemployment is falling in the US and UK. Here is some advice; when mother sends to the market don’t trade in your cow for magic beans.

When are you permanently moving to that Albanian paradise called Kosovo?

All Serbia has achieved is a partial free trade agreement with a very small part of Kosovo; whereas Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia have a full free trade agreement with all of Kosovo. But you can dress it up as a victory if it makes you feel good about yourself.
(Ian, UK, 20 December 2012 15:43)

Maybe you should look up the percentage of goods entering kosovo from Serbia and compare it with the percentage of goods entering from the countries you mentioned. If you do that you will see that more than 70%of the goods they import travels through Serbia. When it comes to groceries and medicine the percentage is even higher.

You give these Albanian geniuses enough rope they end up hanging themselves and go straight to the CIA world book and quote drivel by the bucket load.

Kosovo export textiles and meat eh? Considering the size of this Kosovo just how much meat is exported when you have more people than animals?

Textiles? I can ship textiles cheaper and better quality from China to Kosovo than you can produce it there. But where do you source the raw materials? Import them? Or do you also grow cotton during the winter months?

Yes its only 7.8% just like the US is only 7.2% - We are going through the worst recession/depression in history and unemployment is falling in the US and UK. Here is some advice; when mother sends to the market don’t trade in your cow for magic beans.

When are you permanently moving to that Albanian paradise called Kosovo?
(sj, 20 December 2012 23:00)

I have no idea what the "CIA World Book" is. And I don't have a copy.

These are facts. I'm sorry that these facts don't fit in with your crazy theories. And yes you may be able to get better textiles from China but it isn't stopping Kosovo from exporting textiles and making money.

This may be the "worst recession/depression in history" but I'm certainly not feeling the affects of it. Life is good and I have plenty of money in my pocket!

Why would I move to Kosovo? I'm happy in my own country thank you very much, I have a job here too btw. When are you moving to Serbia?

Maybe you should look up the percentage of goods entering kosovo from Serbia and compare it with the percentage of goods entering from the countries you mentioned. If you do that you will see that more than 70%of the goods they import travels through Serbia. When it comes to groceries and medicine the percentage is even higher.
(Daniel, 21 December 2012 09:15)

Kosovo's two biggest trade parteners are Macedonia and Turkey. It makes no logical sense for them goods to travel through Serbia first before entering Kosovo. And a lot of goods which Kosovo imports arrive at Pristina Airport of via the sea from the Port of Durres before entering Kosovo.

Both sides can keep doing the contraband they were already doing. "Good". The so much sought "rule of law" in the north starts by saying "no rules and no controls" for things under 3.5 tons. We'll see how it goes. Personally, I am starting to get disappointed. Certain people from both sides benefit from lawlessness as B92 showed and the only entity who has some leverage to force some control, the EU, is doing nothing so far. Not sure what their game is.

Why would I move to Kosovo? I'm happy in my own country thank you very much, I have a job here too btw. When are you moving to Serbia?
(Ian, UK, 21 December 2012 10:32)

There is an old Australian saying “stop it or you will go blind”. Kosovo has industries – please go tell it to your grandmother. While you’re at it tell her that the UK only has 7.2% unemployment.
You know Slovenia it’s the one that with Croatia propped up Serbia is now in trouble because the lies have come home to roost and the EU is no longer willing to financially support up and you talk of this magic Kosovo. Please grow up.
Just what do you do for a living?