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Tuesday, 18.12.2012.

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PM says he "could withdraw from Kosovo talks"

PM Ivica Dačić says he is "prepared to abandon the talks with Hashim Thaci and Catherine Ashton" over the violation of a previously reached agreement.

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Sumadinac

pre 11 godina

@ Azir
"WE ARE THE ONLY INDIGENOUS NATIVES IN KOSOVA EVEN WHEN SLAV INVADED WE WERE THERE......"
Again nice Albo propaganda sentence to change history.
Your people live in the Sicily till mid 11-th century turn old book from that time and you will be found your original root.
Turks is not crazy when they see your people 1st time (not in Kosovo in today Albo YES) and call you "ARNAUT" in other word " who is not return back". For sure Turks know "ARNAUT" com from (Caspic Sea). Be happy ...you need 30 more years in the Balkan to catch only 1000 yr.

bganon

pre 11 godina

So according to Ivica Serbia lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo eh?
Or should that be his mentor Slobodan Milosevic and the policies he supported up until yesterday lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo, and they also lost the peace at the time? (diplomacy)

You see its hard for some of us to hear this from this guy, considering the personal responsibility him and his party bears for dragging Serbia to its knees in the first place. Its hard for some of us to understand how quite a few Serbs (posters here as well) - including him until yesterday were claiming that Kumanovo was some kind of victory. And its hard for some of us to comprehend how those same Serbs are again falling into line with what SPS says - the complete opposite viewpoint. Some wanted to argue with me when I said that Kumanovo was a capitulation for Serbia, now Dacic says it nobody at this forum wants to argue. What gives?

All that remains then is to pray that Dacic doesn't continue with his catastrophic past record, but personally I think that Dacic is so keen to prove his 'European' outlook he will agree to more than any politician in Serbia on Kosovo, excluding Cedomir Jovanovic. I always personally supported a dignified negotiation for both sides on Kosovo, even under Milosevic. Now it looks more like an undignified surrender for Serbia.
Happy days for Kosovo Albanians really...

Daniel

pre 11 godina

There should have been no negotiations anyway until Serbia is first forced to recognise Kosovo independence. That is what you get from Serbian leaders....Just gaining time...and not interested in real peace.
(EA, 18 December 2012 20:02)

Of course you albos think that Serbia should recognize it, but only when hell freezes over will that happen. Why dont u urge Spain to recognize catalonia or Germany to recognize Bavaria or any other country to GIVE UP A PART OF ITS SOVEREIGN TERRITORY?

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Go ahead and withdraw from Kosovo talks" and then Serbia will end up with no EU, Serbia lost Kosovo sinc 1999 now will loose to joing EU, I hope you serbians will withdraw from talks
(Bahri, 18 December 2012 16:43)

We dont want the EU!EU is already falling a part and I am 1000%sure that if there was a voting about us joining the EU or not 70%would say no. We have had enough of the bs.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

must be really hard for Ivica.
He lost the war to the Albanians.
Now, he has to fight a battle that's already been lost.
It must be hard for a nationalist like Ivica to deal with this.

Or, does he really care about his people. Maybe it's about the money.
Who knows. Poor Ivica.
(cry me a river, 18 December 2012 18:43)
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As good as I can remember these "albanians"ran before NATO intervened so how can you say that Serbia lost the war vs the Albanians?The serbs crushed your terrorist KLA in a couple of days and then you ran and cried to NATO to come and help you. Without NATO and the west you would still be on the run why is that so hard for you to admit?

Lou

pre 11 godina

I wonder when Serbs will understand that kosova is kosova it belong to the people of kosova not Serbia not albania why you people don't try to help the one who lives there let the ones rule there democracy is freedoms make a better living not bring problems please humans live like one don't hate life is much more than border respect laws its time it's century 21 you must understend

Jugoslav

pre 11 godina

@ Montenegrin, 18 December 2012 22:08
“This shows that you are so deep into propaganda based in pure mythology.”
@ Montenegrin, 18 December 2012 18:09
“need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology.”

Both sentence poor Albo still from old Serb comments sent to the albo no more than 30 days ago at B92
Montenegrin don’t still and don‘t use albo terminology like you. Next time use your mithology for your people like in the past 978yr...Serb don't neded your common Balkan mithology. People red your comment like me, also be nice and don't use today old Serbs comments for your albo goal!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Dačić asserted that the policy pursued in the past 13 years was wrong, "because the Serbs in Kosovo are not Belgrade's branch office, but indigenous people".

"We need to have an initiative. We believe that Kosovo is part of Serbia, but we have to understand that we lost wars in Croatia and Kosovo and that we cannot act as if we won," he stressed"

What is this traitor talking about ?@ Ivica needs to pay more attention to the guardians of serbdom in these forums so that he understands the Kosovo was a great victory for Serbia.

Radovan

pre 11 godina

"As a montenegrin, it makes me feel very bad when I see serbs and Serbia suffering because of our brotherly relations but you people really need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology."

Montenegrin, you sound like your from the south, Ulcin perhaps? ;)

Remember, a fight for Kosovo is a fight for Orthodox Christianity.

azir

pre 11 godina

I can't believe he called the Slav Serb settlers imported into North Kosova "indigenous".

WE ARE THE ONLY INDIGENOUS NATIVES IN KOSOVA EVEN WHEN SLAV INVADED WE WERE THERE......

AND ALSO WHEN ONE LOSES THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T DEMAND ANYTHING......

azir

pre 11 godina

Serbia's PM threatens non compliance with International Community obligations...

PLEASE GO AHEAD AND WALK THE WALK.........

EU DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER GREECE OR CYRUS PROBLEM.

Joachim

pre 11 godina

Bla bla and Ba !
You can decline Dacic anyway you want!
The essence is that he agrees to pay anything what it takes for to join the broke EU.
He has no mandate to do so but signing papers without any mandate and avoiding to ask for public approval is a constant in Serbian Policies!

Brian

pre 11 godina

It's too late. Serbia already recognized kosovo independence and can't go back. Theyagreed to customs and customs are being done.

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

@MOMCILO,
Look, there is no other person more nationalist than Ivica Dacic and if he accepts that he lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo then you have to accept it too.
You say that you lost because of the intervention of the world and here is the biggest problem. Why do you think the world had to intervene? The world did not intervene because they hate you serbs, but something really bad was going on that the world had to intervene. Dont think that the world turned against you just because they wanted to, but because there was a valid reason for the world to do so and the reason was the horrific crimes done especially in Bosnia and then in Kosovo.
What are you talking about WWI and WWII ? please stop reading folk history and look at the real facts. In WWI the whole serbian military left Serbia through Albania and escaped by boats in Greece. During WWII there was a partisan war all over Yugoslavia and a Croat named Tito was the leader so there is nothing to show off for Serbs. Or are you saying that Serbia was occupied in both world wars and then it was freed again? well every other nation in the area was occupied during both world wars and freed again, so there is nothing special about Serbia being freed.

To continue...

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

Continuing...
@Momcilo
I do not feel sorry for serbs like you who live comfortable lives in western countries and come here and throw hate all over but i do feel sorry for the serbs that live in Serbia and that suffer on their daily lives because of the wrong politics based on mythology.
And YES i am a montenegrin and i am proud to be montenegrin, you do not have to tell me what my nationality is because i know what nationality i am very well. And dont you see your arrogance by trying to tell me what nationality i am? This shows that you are so deep into propaganda based in pure mythology.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 11 godina

Montenegrin

Why is Serbia being held hostage for the actions of Milosevic and Karadzic. In case you have forgotten, both of those fellows are Montenegrin.

I guess you're just the same as the Croatians, Slovenians and Macedonians in that you walk away from a self inflicted train wreck and leave Serbia the blame.

kiko

pre 11 godina

OMG he admitted a loss. WOW! At least he's being honest about it.

To the Albanians that post, Serbia has every right to fight for the rights of K.Serbs in Kosovo/a. And they should so that there is a checks and balance approach in the internal affairs of Kosovo/a as its in the constitution with the number of seats.

To Serbs, K.Albanians have a right to demand and gain independence. Which they do have south of the ibar and a mixed variation in the north.

The two sides should work to strengthen the rule of law. And since K.Alb have the upper hand that means they have to be much better than the old serbian regime of slobo. And protecting minority rights is key to a countries success. This lesson K.Albs still have not learned.

In front of the law it should not matter what the persons race; creed; color; beliefs; or religion is. That individual should be treated equally under the law. This is where the entire balkans is lacking.

You have to fight for the weak, the poor, the misfortunate, the ill, the children so that you can create a better life for all. If either party can do that then they shall have respect that even their opponents can not deny.

Merry Christmas to all and a Blessed New Year 2013!

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

@Montenegrin..
Or should i say Serb or albo, or croat..not sure. It makes me sad to see you write those empty words. Apparently you have fell into the plan of the balkans and have changed your identity as have thousands of others, so dont feel ashamed alone. Secondly..call yourself what you wish..but dont feel bad about Serbia. We didnt lose because we didnt have the will or the power to win. We lost because of the rest of the intervention by the world..and a weak Russia not having any backbone to step up at the time. So please..no Serb needs your sorrow. Our will is something obviously you dont understand. I mean look at WWI , WWII..did it stop us? No..it never will . Be realistic..pride, will, and determination is something we must never give up as a nation or as a people. Esp in the eyes of terrorism, and theft of our territory. If you were concerned of our brotherly relations, you wouldn't be speakig in the manner you are. You would be praying with all the Serbs and supporting them in more way than one. Sorry..but please save your empty words for another site.

EA

pre 11 godina

There should have been no negotiations anyway until Serbia is first forced to recognise Kosovo independence. That is what you get from Serbian leaders....Just gaining time...and not interested in real peace.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

It must be really hard for Ivica.
He lost the war to the Albanians.
Now, he has to fight a battle that's already been lost.
It must be hard for a nationalist like Ivica to deal with this.

Or, does he really care about his people. Maybe it's about the money.
Who knows. Poor Ivica.

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

Dacic says " we lost wars in Croatia and Kosovo" therefore, when you loose a war you loose what you fought for, and in Kosovo the war was for Kosovo and if you lost that war for Kosovo, therefore you lost Kosovo.
Serbs, wake up please, accept reality and go on with other goals because Kosovo is already lost.
Please do not waste anymore money and energy on something that is already lost and even Dacic accepts as a lost cause.
Wake up please, leave behind the rhetoric and empty propaganda. As a montenegrin, it makes me feel very bad when I see serbs and Serbia suffering because of our brotherly relations but you people really need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology.
Its time to catch the last wagon of the train, otherwise you will remain isolated from the rest and will suffer more and more.

Bob

pre 11 godina

It must make him feel very sick to have to talk to anyone in Pristina.

It must be one of the most undesirable activities he could imagine.

I can only begin to imagine the distaste he has to suffer.

Bahri

pre 11 godina

Go ahead and withdraw from Kosovo talks" and then Serbia will end up with no EU, Serbia lost Kosovo sinc 1999 now will loose to joing EU, I hope you serbians will withdraw from talks

Alex

pre 11 godina

Yes you get the income for goods that go towards Serbia,and Kosovo gets the income for goods going to Kosovo like any other country. I do not belive that you did not clarify this when you signed it.
I guarantee you B92 followers that this guy will not withdraw he is only playing dirty old Slobo politics that do not work with westerns

John

pre 11 godina

Every other week, this guy "threatens" to stop talks.

Ivica, if you don't want those talks then just do it. Nobody forces you. C'mon, what are you waiting for? The Georgians don't even give a glimpse on Abk. and SO., not mentioning that they don't give even an inch and declare those territories as occupied areas. Serbs are not even close to what Georgians do.

Bahri

pre 11 godina

Go ahead and withdraw from Kosovo talks" and then Serbia will end up with no EU, Serbia lost Kosovo sinc 1999 now will loose to joing EU, I hope you serbians will withdraw from talks

Alex

pre 11 godina

Yes you get the income for goods that go towards Serbia,and Kosovo gets the income for goods going to Kosovo like any other country. I do not belive that you did not clarify this when you signed it.
I guarantee you B92 followers that this guy will not withdraw he is only playing dirty old Slobo politics that do not work with westerns

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

Dacic says " we lost wars in Croatia and Kosovo" therefore, when you loose a war you loose what you fought for, and in Kosovo the war was for Kosovo and if you lost that war for Kosovo, therefore you lost Kosovo.
Serbs, wake up please, accept reality and go on with other goals because Kosovo is already lost.
Please do not waste anymore money and energy on something that is already lost and even Dacic accepts as a lost cause.
Wake up please, leave behind the rhetoric and empty propaganda. As a montenegrin, it makes me feel very bad when I see serbs and Serbia suffering because of our brotherly relations but you people really need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology.
Its time to catch the last wagon of the train, otherwise you will remain isolated from the rest and will suffer more and more.

John

pre 11 godina

Every other week, this guy "threatens" to stop talks.

Ivica, if you don't want those talks then just do it. Nobody forces you. C'mon, what are you waiting for? The Georgians don't even give a glimpse on Abk. and SO., not mentioning that they don't give even an inch and declare those territories as occupied areas. Serbs are not even close to what Georgians do.

Bob

pre 11 godina

It must make him feel very sick to have to talk to anyone in Pristina.

It must be one of the most undesirable activities he could imagine.

I can only begin to imagine the distaste he has to suffer.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

@Montenegrin..
Or should i say Serb or albo, or croat..not sure. It makes me sad to see you write those empty words. Apparently you have fell into the plan of the balkans and have changed your identity as have thousands of others, so dont feel ashamed alone. Secondly..call yourself what you wish..but dont feel bad about Serbia. We didnt lose because we didnt have the will or the power to win. We lost because of the rest of the intervention by the world..and a weak Russia not having any backbone to step up at the time. So please..no Serb needs your sorrow. Our will is something obviously you dont understand. I mean look at WWI , WWII..did it stop us? No..it never will . Be realistic..pride, will, and determination is something we must never give up as a nation or as a people. Esp in the eyes of terrorism, and theft of our territory. If you were concerned of our brotherly relations, you wouldn't be speakig in the manner you are. You would be praying with all the Serbs and supporting them in more way than one. Sorry..but please save your empty words for another site.

EA

pre 11 godina

There should have been no negotiations anyway until Serbia is first forced to recognise Kosovo independence. That is what you get from Serbian leaders....Just gaining time...and not interested in real peace.

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

@MOMCILO,
Look, there is no other person more nationalist than Ivica Dacic and if he accepts that he lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo then you have to accept it too.
You say that you lost because of the intervention of the world and here is the biggest problem. Why do you think the world had to intervene? The world did not intervene because they hate you serbs, but something really bad was going on that the world had to intervene. Dont think that the world turned against you just because they wanted to, but because there was a valid reason for the world to do so and the reason was the horrific crimes done especially in Bosnia and then in Kosovo.
What are you talking about WWI and WWII ? please stop reading folk history and look at the real facts. In WWI the whole serbian military left Serbia through Albania and escaped by boats in Greece. During WWII there was a partisan war all over Yugoslavia and a Croat named Tito was the leader so there is nothing to show off for Serbs. Or are you saying that Serbia was occupied in both world wars and then it was freed again? well every other nation in the area was occupied during both world wars and freed again, so there is nothing special about Serbia being freed.

To continue...

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

Continuing...
@Momcilo
I do not feel sorry for serbs like you who live comfortable lives in western countries and come here and throw hate all over but i do feel sorry for the serbs that live in Serbia and that suffer on their daily lives because of the wrong politics based on mythology.
And YES i am a montenegrin and i am proud to be montenegrin, you do not have to tell me what my nationality is because i know what nationality i am very well. And dont you see your arrogance by trying to tell me what nationality i am? This shows that you are so deep into propaganda based in pure mythology.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

It must be really hard for Ivica.
He lost the war to the Albanians.
Now, he has to fight a battle that's already been lost.
It must be hard for a nationalist like Ivica to deal with this.

Or, does he really care about his people. Maybe it's about the money.
Who knows. Poor Ivica.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 11 godina

Montenegrin

Why is Serbia being held hostage for the actions of Milosevic and Karadzic. In case you have forgotten, both of those fellows are Montenegrin.

I guess you're just the same as the Croatians, Slovenians and Macedonians in that you walk away from a self inflicted train wreck and leave Serbia the blame.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

must be really hard for Ivica.
He lost the war to the Albanians.
Now, he has to fight a battle that's already been lost.
It must be hard for a nationalist like Ivica to deal with this.

Or, does he really care about his people. Maybe it's about the money.
Who knows. Poor Ivica.
(cry me a river, 18 December 2012 18:43)
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As good as I can remember these "albanians"ran before NATO intervened so how can you say that Serbia lost the war vs the Albanians?The serbs crushed your terrorist KLA in a couple of days and then you ran and cried to NATO to come and help you. Without NATO and the west you would still be on the run why is that so hard for you to admit?

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Go ahead and withdraw from Kosovo talks" and then Serbia will end up with no EU, Serbia lost Kosovo sinc 1999 now will loose to joing EU, I hope you serbians will withdraw from talks
(Bahri, 18 December 2012 16:43)

We dont want the EU!EU is already falling a part and I am 1000%sure that if there was a voting about us joining the EU or not 70%would say no. We have had enough of the bs.

kiko

pre 11 godina

OMG he admitted a loss. WOW! At least he's being honest about it.

To the Albanians that post, Serbia has every right to fight for the rights of K.Serbs in Kosovo/a. And they should so that there is a checks and balance approach in the internal affairs of Kosovo/a as its in the constitution with the number of seats.

To Serbs, K.Albanians have a right to demand and gain independence. Which they do have south of the ibar and a mixed variation in the north.

The two sides should work to strengthen the rule of law. And since K.Alb have the upper hand that means they have to be much better than the old serbian regime of slobo. And protecting minority rights is key to a countries success. This lesson K.Albs still have not learned.

In front of the law it should not matter what the persons race; creed; color; beliefs; or religion is. That individual should be treated equally under the law. This is where the entire balkans is lacking.

You have to fight for the weak, the poor, the misfortunate, the ill, the children so that you can create a better life for all. If either party can do that then they shall have respect that even their opponents can not deny.

Merry Christmas to all and a Blessed New Year 2013!

Daniel

pre 11 godina

There should have been no negotiations anyway until Serbia is first forced to recognise Kosovo independence. That is what you get from Serbian leaders....Just gaining time...and not interested in real peace.
(EA, 18 December 2012 20:02)

Of course you albos think that Serbia should recognize it, but only when hell freezes over will that happen. Why dont u urge Spain to recognize catalonia or Germany to recognize Bavaria or any other country to GIVE UP A PART OF ITS SOVEREIGN TERRITORY?

Radovan

pre 11 godina

"As a montenegrin, it makes me feel very bad when I see serbs and Serbia suffering because of our brotherly relations but you people really need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology."

Montenegrin, you sound like your from the south, Ulcin perhaps? ;)

Remember, a fight for Kosovo is a fight for Orthodox Christianity.

Jugoslav

pre 11 godina

@ Montenegrin, 18 December 2012 22:08
“This shows that you are so deep into propaganda based in pure mythology.”
@ Montenegrin, 18 December 2012 18:09
“need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology.”

Both sentence poor Albo still from old Serb comments sent to the albo no more than 30 days ago at B92
Montenegrin don’t still and don‘t use albo terminology like you. Next time use your mithology for your people like in the past 978yr...Serb don't neded your common Balkan mithology. People red your comment like me, also be nice and don't use today old Serbs comments for your albo goal!

Lou

pre 11 godina

I wonder when Serbs will understand that kosova is kosova it belong to the people of kosova not Serbia not albania why you people don't try to help the one who lives there let the ones rule there democracy is freedoms make a better living not bring problems please humans live like one don't hate life is much more than border respect laws its time it's century 21 you must understend

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Dačić asserted that the policy pursued in the past 13 years was wrong, "because the Serbs in Kosovo are not Belgrade's branch office, but indigenous people".

"We need to have an initiative. We believe that Kosovo is part of Serbia, but we have to understand that we lost wars in Croatia and Kosovo and that we cannot act as if we won," he stressed"

What is this traitor talking about ?@ Ivica needs to pay more attention to the guardians of serbdom in these forums so that he understands the Kosovo was a great victory for Serbia.

bganon

pre 11 godina

So according to Ivica Serbia lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo eh?
Or should that be his mentor Slobodan Milosevic and the policies he supported up until yesterday lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo, and they also lost the peace at the time? (diplomacy)

You see its hard for some of us to hear this from this guy, considering the personal responsibility him and his party bears for dragging Serbia to its knees in the first place. Its hard for some of us to understand how quite a few Serbs (posters here as well) - including him until yesterday were claiming that Kumanovo was some kind of victory. And its hard for some of us to comprehend how those same Serbs are again falling into line with what SPS says - the complete opposite viewpoint. Some wanted to argue with me when I said that Kumanovo was a capitulation for Serbia, now Dacic says it nobody at this forum wants to argue. What gives?

All that remains then is to pray that Dacic doesn't continue with his catastrophic past record, but personally I think that Dacic is so keen to prove his 'European' outlook he will agree to more than any politician in Serbia on Kosovo, excluding Cedomir Jovanovic. I always personally supported a dignified negotiation for both sides on Kosovo, even under Milosevic. Now it looks more like an undignified surrender for Serbia.
Happy days for Kosovo Albanians really...

Sumadinac

pre 11 godina

@ Azir
"WE ARE THE ONLY INDIGENOUS NATIVES IN KOSOVA EVEN WHEN SLAV INVADED WE WERE THERE......"
Again nice Albo propaganda sentence to change history.
Your people live in the Sicily till mid 11-th century turn old book from that time and you will be found your original root.
Turks is not crazy when they see your people 1st time (not in Kosovo in today Albo YES) and call you "ARNAUT" in other word " who is not return back". For sure Turks know "ARNAUT" com from (Caspic Sea). Be happy ...you need 30 more years in the Balkan to catch only 1000 yr.

Brian

pre 11 godina

It's too late. Serbia already recognized kosovo independence and can't go back. Theyagreed to customs and customs are being done.

azir

pre 11 godina

Serbia's PM threatens non compliance with International Community obligations...

PLEASE GO AHEAD AND WALK THE WALK.........

EU DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER GREECE OR CYRUS PROBLEM.

azir

pre 11 godina

I can't believe he called the Slav Serb settlers imported into North Kosova "indigenous".

WE ARE THE ONLY INDIGENOUS NATIVES IN KOSOVA EVEN WHEN SLAV INVADED WE WERE THERE......

AND ALSO WHEN ONE LOSES THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T DEMAND ANYTHING......

Joachim

pre 11 godina

Bla bla and Ba !
You can decline Dacic anyway you want!
The essence is that he agrees to pay anything what it takes for to join the broke EU.
He has no mandate to do so but signing papers without any mandate and avoiding to ask for public approval is a constant in Serbian Policies!

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

Dacic says " we lost wars in Croatia and Kosovo" therefore, when you loose a war you loose what you fought for, and in Kosovo the war was for Kosovo and if you lost that war for Kosovo, therefore you lost Kosovo.
Serbs, wake up please, accept reality and go on with other goals because Kosovo is already lost.
Please do not waste anymore money and energy on something that is already lost and even Dacic accepts as a lost cause.
Wake up please, leave behind the rhetoric and empty propaganda. As a montenegrin, it makes me feel very bad when I see serbs and Serbia suffering because of our brotherly relations but you people really need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology.
Its time to catch the last wagon of the train, otherwise you will remain isolated from the rest and will suffer more and more.

Bahri

pre 11 godina

Go ahead and withdraw from Kosovo talks" and then Serbia will end up with no EU, Serbia lost Kosovo sinc 1999 now will loose to joing EU, I hope you serbians will withdraw from talks

Alex

pre 11 godina

Yes you get the income for goods that go towards Serbia,and Kosovo gets the income for goods going to Kosovo like any other country. I do not belive that you did not clarify this when you signed it.
I guarantee you B92 followers that this guy will not withdraw he is only playing dirty old Slobo politics that do not work with westerns

Bob

pre 11 godina

It must make him feel very sick to have to talk to anyone in Pristina.

It must be one of the most undesirable activities he could imagine.

I can only begin to imagine the distaste he has to suffer.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

@Montenegrin..
Or should i say Serb or albo, or croat..not sure. It makes me sad to see you write those empty words. Apparently you have fell into the plan of the balkans and have changed your identity as have thousands of others, so dont feel ashamed alone. Secondly..call yourself what you wish..but dont feel bad about Serbia. We didnt lose because we didnt have the will or the power to win. We lost because of the rest of the intervention by the world..and a weak Russia not having any backbone to step up at the time. So please..no Serb needs your sorrow. Our will is something obviously you dont understand. I mean look at WWI , WWII..did it stop us? No..it never will . Be realistic..pride, will, and determination is something we must never give up as a nation or as a people. Esp in the eyes of terrorism, and theft of our territory. If you were concerned of our brotherly relations, you wouldn't be speakig in the manner you are. You would be praying with all the Serbs and supporting them in more way than one. Sorry..but please save your empty words for another site.

cry me a river

pre 11 godina

It must be really hard for Ivica.
He lost the war to the Albanians.
Now, he has to fight a battle that's already been lost.
It must be hard for a nationalist like Ivica to deal with this.

Or, does he really care about his people. Maybe it's about the money.
Who knows. Poor Ivica.

EA

pre 11 godina

There should have been no negotiations anyway until Serbia is first forced to recognise Kosovo independence. That is what you get from Serbian leaders....Just gaining time...and not interested in real peace.

John

pre 11 godina

Every other week, this guy "threatens" to stop talks.

Ivica, if you don't want those talks then just do it. Nobody forces you. C'mon, what are you waiting for? The Georgians don't even give a glimpse on Abk. and SO., not mentioning that they don't give even an inch and declare those territories as occupied areas. Serbs are not even close to what Georgians do.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 11 godina

Montenegrin

Why is Serbia being held hostage for the actions of Milosevic and Karadzic. In case you have forgotten, both of those fellows are Montenegrin.

I guess you're just the same as the Croatians, Slovenians and Macedonians in that you walk away from a self inflicted train wreck and leave Serbia the blame.

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

@MOMCILO,
Look, there is no other person more nationalist than Ivica Dacic and if he accepts that he lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo then you have to accept it too.
You say that you lost because of the intervention of the world and here is the biggest problem. Why do you think the world had to intervene? The world did not intervene because they hate you serbs, but something really bad was going on that the world had to intervene. Dont think that the world turned against you just because they wanted to, but because there was a valid reason for the world to do so and the reason was the horrific crimes done especially in Bosnia and then in Kosovo.
What are you talking about WWI and WWII ? please stop reading folk history and look at the real facts. In WWI the whole serbian military left Serbia through Albania and escaped by boats in Greece. During WWII there was a partisan war all over Yugoslavia and a Croat named Tito was the leader so there is nothing to show off for Serbs. Or are you saying that Serbia was occupied in both world wars and then it was freed again? well every other nation in the area was occupied during both world wars and freed again, so there is nothing special about Serbia being freed.

To continue...

Lou

pre 11 godina

I wonder when Serbs will understand that kosova is kosova it belong to the people of kosova not Serbia not albania why you people don't try to help the one who lives there let the ones rule there democracy is freedoms make a better living not bring problems please humans live like one don't hate life is much more than border respect laws its time it's century 21 you must understend

Montenegrin

pre 11 godina

Continuing...
@Momcilo
I do not feel sorry for serbs like you who live comfortable lives in western countries and come here and throw hate all over but i do feel sorry for the serbs that live in Serbia and that suffer on their daily lives because of the wrong politics based on mythology.
And YES i am a montenegrin and i am proud to be montenegrin, you do not have to tell me what my nationality is because i know what nationality i am very well. And dont you see your arrogance by trying to tell me what nationality i am? This shows that you are so deep into propaganda based in pure mythology.

azir

pre 11 godina

I can't believe he called the Slav Serb settlers imported into North Kosova "indigenous".

WE ARE THE ONLY INDIGENOUS NATIVES IN KOSOVA EVEN WHEN SLAV INVADED WE WERE THERE......

AND ALSO WHEN ONE LOSES THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T DEMAND ANYTHING......

kiko

pre 11 godina

OMG he admitted a loss. WOW! At least he's being honest about it.

To the Albanians that post, Serbia has every right to fight for the rights of K.Serbs in Kosovo/a. And they should so that there is a checks and balance approach in the internal affairs of Kosovo/a as its in the constitution with the number of seats.

To Serbs, K.Albanians have a right to demand and gain independence. Which they do have south of the ibar and a mixed variation in the north.

The two sides should work to strengthen the rule of law. And since K.Alb have the upper hand that means they have to be much better than the old serbian regime of slobo. And protecting minority rights is key to a countries success. This lesson K.Albs still have not learned.

In front of the law it should not matter what the persons race; creed; color; beliefs; or religion is. That individual should be treated equally under the law. This is where the entire balkans is lacking.

You have to fight for the weak, the poor, the misfortunate, the ill, the children so that you can create a better life for all. If either party can do that then they shall have respect that even their opponents can not deny.

Merry Christmas to all and a Blessed New Year 2013!

Daniel

pre 11 godina

must be really hard for Ivica.
He lost the war to the Albanians.
Now, he has to fight a battle that's already been lost.
It must be hard for a nationalist like Ivica to deal with this.

Or, does he really care about his people. Maybe it's about the money.
Who knows. Poor Ivica.
(cry me a river, 18 December 2012 18:43)
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As good as I can remember these "albanians"ran before NATO intervened so how can you say that Serbia lost the war vs the Albanians?The serbs crushed your terrorist KLA in a couple of days and then you ran and cried to NATO to come and help you. Without NATO and the west you would still be on the run why is that so hard for you to admit?

Daniel

pre 11 godina

There should have been no negotiations anyway until Serbia is first forced to recognise Kosovo independence. That is what you get from Serbian leaders....Just gaining time...and not interested in real peace.
(EA, 18 December 2012 20:02)

Of course you albos think that Serbia should recognize it, but only when hell freezes over will that happen. Why dont u urge Spain to recognize catalonia or Germany to recognize Bavaria or any other country to GIVE UP A PART OF ITS SOVEREIGN TERRITORY?

azir

pre 11 godina

Serbia's PM threatens non compliance with International Community obligations...

PLEASE GO AHEAD AND WALK THE WALK.........

EU DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER GREECE OR CYRUS PROBLEM.

Radovan

pre 11 godina

"As a montenegrin, it makes me feel very bad when I see serbs and Serbia suffering because of our brotherly relations but you people really need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology."

Montenegrin, you sound like your from the south, Ulcin perhaps? ;)

Remember, a fight for Kosovo is a fight for Orthodox Christianity.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Go ahead and withdraw from Kosovo talks" and then Serbia will end up with no EU, Serbia lost Kosovo sinc 1999 now will loose to joing EU, I hope you serbians will withdraw from talks
(Bahri, 18 December 2012 16:43)

We dont want the EU!EU is already falling a part and I am 1000%sure that if there was a voting about us joining the EU or not 70%would say no. We have had enough of the bs.

Brian

pre 11 godina

It's too late. Serbia already recognized kosovo independence and can't go back. Theyagreed to customs and customs are being done.

Jugoslav

pre 11 godina

@ Montenegrin, 18 December 2012 22:08
“This shows that you are so deep into propaganda based in pure mythology.”
@ Montenegrin, 18 December 2012 18:09
“need to wake up from the long sleep in the world of mythology.”

Both sentence poor Albo still from old Serb comments sent to the albo no more than 30 days ago at B92
Montenegrin don’t still and don‘t use albo terminology like you. Next time use your mithology for your people like in the past 978yr...Serb don't neded your common Balkan mithology. People red your comment like me, also be nice and don't use today old Serbs comments for your albo goal!

Joachim

pre 11 godina

Bla bla and Ba !
You can decline Dacic anyway you want!
The essence is that he agrees to pay anything what it takes for to join the broke EU.
He has no mandate to do so but signing papers without any mandate and avoiding to ask for public approval is a constant in Serbian Policies!

icj1

pre 11 godina

"Dačić asserted that the policy pursued in the past 13 years was wrong, "because the Serbs in Kosovo are not Belgrade's branch office, but indigenous people".

"We need to have an initiative. We believe that Kosovo is part of Serbia, but we have to understand that we lost wars in Croatia and Kosovo and that we cannot act as if we won," he stressed"

What is this traitor talking about ?@ Ivica needs to pay more attention to the guardians of serbdom in these forums so that he understands the Kosovo was a great victory for Serbia.

bganon

pre 11 godina

So according to Ivica Serbia lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo eh?
Or should that be his mentor Slobodan Milosevic and the policies he supported up until yesterday lost the wars in Croatia and Kosovo, and they also lost the peace at the time? (diplomacy)

You see its hard for some of us to hear this from this guy, considering the personal responsibility him and his party bears for dragging Serbia to its knees in the first place. Its hard for some of us to understand how quite a few Serbs (posters here as well) - including him until yesterday were claiming that Kumanovo was some kind of victory. And its hard for some of us to comprehend how those same Serbs are again falling into line with what SPS says - the complete opposite viewpoint. Some wanted to argue with me when I said that Kumanovo was a capitulation for Serbia, now Dacic says it nobody at this forum wants to argue. What gives?

All that remains then is to pray that Dacic doesn't continue with his catastrophic past record, but personally I think that Dacic is so keen to prove his 'European' outlook he will agree to more than any politician in Serbia on Kosovo, excluding Cedomir Jovanovic. I always personally supported a dignified negotiation for both sides on Kosovo, even under Milosevic. Now it looks more like an undignified surrender for Serbia.
Happy days for Kosovo Albanians really...

Sumadinac

pre 11 godina

@ Azir
"WE ARE THE ONLY INDIGENOUS NATIVES IN KOSOVA EVEN WHEN SLAV INVADED WE WERE THERE......"
Again nice Albo propaganda sentence to change history.
Your people live in the Sicily till mid 11-th century turn old book from that time and you will be found your original root.
Turks is not crazy when they see your people 1st time (not in Kosovo in today Albo YES) and call you "ARNAUT" in other word " who is not return back". For sure Turks know "ARNAUT" com from (Caspic Sea). Be happy ...you need 30 more years in the Balkan to catch only 1000 yr.