NYT: Albright main bidder for Kosovo's PTK

Pure Mafia. In return for our protection and us beating up your enemies, you steal their house and we'll take what's in it. Oh and by the way you wont have to worry about any accusations of organ trading or war crimes we own the judges and the media.

Nice. And for any one out there that still believes that America is the good guy but is losing a little confidence in the idea, relax when you go to bed just keep repeating to yourself- all Serbs bad, all Albanians good-and you will soon calm down and go back to sleep.

To the Albanian community that visit this site just one question- don't you realise your being used? You will have nothing, they will own it all and all you will have as Daniel said is a nice pair of trainers. It's kind of like the Indians of the old wild west selling materials of value for a few beads and a bottle of whiskey- pretty soon they find themselves alcoholics, dependent on welfare and living on a reservation. Well I guess Kosovo is the reservation, you are on welfare, so where is that bottle of Jack Daniels they promised you?

There is no policy against this in the State Department because this is actually the policy. Why are so many US officials buying businesses in Kosovo? Well, it's rather simple. The US wanted another part of the world to rule and Kosovo's Albanians are easy. They seem to do anything for a glimpse into American life. Thus, they are easy to fool just like most of the low socioeconomic status people in the US. They are the ones buying the expensive sneakers and overspending on cars and cell phones. In the mean time, while they get further in debt, the US millionaires get richer, as they will here. So, enjoy you "friendship" with these devils. Of course, in a few moments someone will reply "but it's better than being under Serbia". To that I'll say, you are responsible for the decisions you make. Stop blaming others for your own problems. If you want to be like a real American, learn to act like one.

Albright's support for Thaci(remember those kisses) was never unconditional.Now its payback time.

War is the most lucrative business there is. The other day an article was published that shows that many if not most of retired US generals and admirals go work for the defence industry and lobby at the pentagon. Well, one needs to get rid of old harware before one can buy new one. Current generals and admirals lead luxurious lives and are lobbied. Biotech people go on the board of the FDA and vice versa. And diplomats go and work for companies. Meanwhile, humans are the cheapest commodities.

I read this article yesterday and what B92 fails to mention is that no legitimate business wants to invest in "Kosova"*, so now the mafia in Pristina is selling this place to their partners in crime, their heroes. LOL!

"Their" energy company is gone and now "their" telecommunications company, the most profitable, will be gone and the money pocketed somewhere.

On the bright side, Serbia is cracking down on crime and corruption but it is flourishing in "Kosova"*. Investment into Serbia is increasing by powerful nations and companies, with legitimate interests. "Kosova"* is a failure and their "heroes" have returned to thieve whatever they can, to protect their egos.

So now lets wait and see, who will bring prosperity to the region? Serbia who is receiving investments from Russia and China or "Kosova"* who is selling their entity to their heroes. I know where my bets will go.

So what is the difference between what happened in the past and what is currently happening. Lets see- years of subjugation, abuse and then abandonment by the state.
(Kiko, 13 December 2012 16:08)
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My friend, Kosovo may have been the poorest part of Yugoslavia but it was way ahead of Albania. So you can thank us for directing millions in investment into the province. Sure, Slovenia and Croatia weren't happy but now they realise how important Yugoslavia was to their economy.

So what is your excuse now? You have been on your own for 13 years and still have nothing to show for it apart from some statue of Bill "Pinocchio" Clinton. Aren't you guys embarrassed? Check -> http://w3spine.com/uploads/2012/08/14/cec4cd27d82c4c25333c560d30b65aff.jpg

Usual American behavior.

1. "Liberate" the area
2. Buy up all the businesses and industries.

Albanians will remain poor for a long time.

I guess slowly the Kosovo Albanians get what they deserve.

(think about it., 13 December 2012 16:45)

Businesses do not want to be anywhere near Kosovo i Metohija since the occupation and the only people that are left to buy up Serbia's property are the very warmongers who came to set up the occupation of Serbia's southern province.

The whole point of the article is the only Americans who are even interested in this territory are ones who have been involved with Kosovo i Metohija in the past.

Luckily, the likes of Clark and especially Albright are already in the last stage of their natural born life. As this generation passes, so will Greater Albania's lobby in the U.S. as the perpetrators will not be there to help you any longer.

The messed up thing about all this....is you know this better than most Serbs do. This is what I will never understand. Your very presence here proves it.

Here is the alticle in full. Not very flattering for neither albs or imperialist yanks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/12/world/europe/americans-who-helped-free-kosovo-return-as-entrepreneurs.html?_r=0

That finding is “unbelievable,” says William Bartlett, a senior researcher at the London School of Economics who has advised the European Commission and international organizations in Kosovo. “Kosovo is a lawless place,” Bartlett says.
(vlad, 13 December 2012 18:34)
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My God, 11 stab wounds and they call it suicide? Bartlett is certainly right when he says "Kosova"* is lawless.

Ha ha! And the albanians thought the west loved them for their charming personality and their beutiful women. Now we know why an independent Kosovo is important to the imperialist americans.

Please keep in mind in relation to this ongoing "business"...

Kosovo authorities have said the stress of investigation led Asanaj to kill himself. That finding is “unbelievable,” says William Bartlett, a senior researcher at the London School of Economics who has advised the European Commission and international organizations in Kosovo. “Kosovo is a lawless place,” Bartlett says. (That is the guy which had 11 knife wounds in the neck and the chest, with two fatal wounds reaching his lung and heart and which the investigators in Kosovo concluded he committed suicide).

@ Serbs

What is wrong with this article? So what if anyone applies to privatise any company you can do that too, that is if you got the money. If I was to decide of course I would choose Albright, Clark and Clinton trillion times over and serbian businessmen. I see nothing wrong with this it's obvious the want to expand their companies. If we were not free Serbia would have sold then to Russia so for us it's fantastic if we get anyone serious investment we want. Sorry about my English.

To: Zoran

You paint the US is such a great light but you forget to mention the similarities of the communist state of Yugoslavia and how it used Kosovo/a for its resources and when it couldn't handle the people it just took their rights away. I can't blame all Yugoslavs but Serbia proper had a large part because it was their province.

So what is the difference between what happened in the past and what is currently happening. Lets see- years of subjugation, abuse and then abandonment by the state.

and look at this link from Bloomberg on the subject, Mafia killings...

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-30/albright-firm-eyes-kosovos-contested-state-telecom

The Pristina authorities are making a mistake that the Belgrade Authorities did after Milosevic was ousted. 10 years from now people in Kosovo will realize that not all privitizations and foreign investment result in fair compensation or net benefit.

Here is the alticle in full. Not very flattering for neither albs or imperialist yanks.

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(MikeC, 13 December 2012 18:35)
Thanks for the link, but I totally disagree with your summation. It does does not present the Albanians in any negative light. It also quotes one analyst as saying the entering into business of those who helped liberate Kosovo MAY cause others to question the humanitarian effort. However, the fact that we are now 13 years post intervention is enough for any sane person to dispel that belief.
At least we are talking about US investers paying fair market values and not Russian bargain basement rates as in Serbia.

Oh I love Serbian reactions here. they're only using us apparently. well let us examine Kosova under Serbia shall we: no economy, no investments and no human rights. give me the blatant Yankee-Kosova colony over that one anytime of the day, week, year decade, century, millenium

@ nikolle

It's not like they are going to ask you anything. As if you have a say in anything.. what a joke! But as long as it makes you feel important.

Right now there is no eceonomy in Kosmet thanks to uck terrorists and nato occupation. There is 50% unemployment. You don't even know how to operate Obilic power plant. What are you people good for? I remember just before nato criminals attacked Serbia in 98 the economy was doing ok and people were receiving constant salary increases. But then came democracy and human rights. Hey nikolle can you name me some big american companies which invested in Kosmet? I thought you guys are best friends.

Thanks for the link, but I totally disagree with your summation. It does does not present the Albanians in any negative light. It also quotes one analyst as saying the entering into business of those who helped liberate Kosovo MAY cause others to question the humanitarian effort
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Actually by what you just said yourself it does present both in a bad way.

Questioning the "humanitarian intervention" is like saying that the whole thing was either set up or blown out of proportion for the sake of cashing in.

With highly influential politcal people having large investments in Kosovo, not only benefits the economy of Kosovo but it also insures that the US will never abandon the people of Kosovo. Their protection will be guaranteed. Thus Kosovo will never be Serbian again!
Just dashed another hope of the Serbs on this forum that the US would eventually leave Kosovo.

What a coincidence that the telecommunications company is up for sale right during the talks about telecommunications (and other stuff) between Dacic and Thaci. Has something been agreed there? Separate prefix for Kosovo maybe? Withdrawal of property claims by Serbia over the telecommunications companies maybe? Why is there nobody protesting in Serbia's government over the sale of supposedly Serbia's property? The cherry on the cake though, is that these are being sold to one of the most "loved" people in Serbia, Mrs. Albright. And what is Serbia's reply? A meaningful silence. These are the questions to ask Zoran et al. But hey, whatever makes you people happy :).

I'm pretty puzzled...

What is this talk that Kosovo, or state (=Thaci) has to choose between bidders? Is here something fishy? Isn't it done the way that the bidder that offers the biggest sum wins the game? What's going on here?

And if state is in a such economical jam that it needs to sell its best source of income, this tells the whole story of Kosovo today.

Then it's rather amusing to read Kosovars complaining that nothing was ever invested in Kosovo. Why amusing? Well, the friends of Kosovo, Slovenia and Croatia, complained for years that they are tired to finance Kosovo... and that was one reason for them to bury Yugoslavia. I've heard similar stories from Montenegrin mouths. That they never got anything from Yugoslavia, that they actually were robbed by Yugoslavia, that all that was built (railroad, port of Bar, hospitals...)after WW2 was paid solely by Montenegrins. So the truth must then be that the big moneys Slovenia and Croatia claim to have invested either never was sent or that Tito bought new trousers and cigars with that money.

What is here to do? If Kosovars want to be fooled, let them be fooled. And let them even celebrate this happening, like Nikolle does.

Though I have a question to Nikolle: You say there were no investments to Kosovo under Serbia. Could you tell me which times you are talking about?

The messed up thing about all this....is you know this better than most Serbs do. This is what I will never understand. Your very presence here proves it.
(Ari Gold, 13 December 2012 18:35)
By "here" I assume you mean on B92-English version. Since I am neither Serbian or Albanian I do not understand either the Serbian or Albanian news sources, which brings to question why are you die hard nationalists using the English version and not the Serbian??If the goal of B92 was to only appeal to Serbs there would not be an English version, nor would they print comments that deviate from your agenda.
Did it ever occur to you that the people involved in the liberation of the Kosovo people from oppression actually do want to see it succeed? You are right in the hesitancy of a lot of businesses in investing in Kosovo, not because the heads of the Kosovo govt but because of the heads of Serbia. It is obvious that the return of Milosevicism is only a stones throw away and alot of business leaders are afraid of some type of Serbian takeover and then the usurpation of their assets inorder to put Kosovo back into the state it was in in the late 1990s. With some influential Americans taking the risk will relieve some of those fears and others will follow.

I thought according to commenters on here, the Yanks where only supporting Kosovo for the short run, but now Yank Elites are buy business in Kosovo? I thought the US and Western support was only meant to be temporary?

And people are saying that the West doesn't want to invest in Kosovo?

63 German owned businesses alone invested in Kosovo from 2007-2012, including Porche, Volkswagen, Audi and SEAT. Canadian business Avrupa Minerals Ltd runs a massive minning programme in Kosovo. That is before we mention the even bigger Envidity project. Monaco Telecom has invested in Kosovo. iPKO Telecommunications is foreign owned. Many foreign airlines, whith Pristina's airport growing year upon year. In 2012 30 Dutch companies have invested in Kosovo with another 50 believed to do so soon. In 2012 exports to the UK were up by 140% compared to 2011. Abother 20 Turkish & 8 Polish businesses have recently decided to invest in Kosovo. Exports to the US doubled in 2012 compared to 2011 and 50 more US businesses signed deals to invest in Kosovo. Kosovan Banks doubled their profit in 2012. Austria has invested heavily in Kosovo.

And I'm not even going to mention Italy, France, Switzerland, Macedonia ect which have also invested heavily in Kosovo.

Kosovo has the fastest growing economy in Europe for a reason. I don't know why many commenters deny that the West is investing in Kosovo. It is almost as if they wish the West wasn't investing in Kosovo so you pretend it isn't happening.

Thats what happens when you only read the parts you want to, such as Serbs do with 1244. The part that follows said that since it was now 13 years after the intervention would be enough for any sane person to dispel those thoughts.
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Wrong. It doesn't matter how many years have passed, when you have a setup that remains a setup. What has passage of time have to do with the truth? Time passing does not diminish the truth in any way, so we have someone questioning the so called humanitarian intervention which was really just a setup for booty grab.

Wrong. It doesn't matter how many years have passed, when you have a setup that remains a setup. What has passage of time have to do with the truth? Time passing does not diminish the truth in any way, so we have someone questioning the so called humanitarian intervention which was really just a setup for booty grab.
(Peggy, 14 December 2012 10:47)

Wrong. Time is very important with UNSCR 1244 as it wasn't a final solution for Kosovo. It is not a permanent guarantee that Kosovo would be apart of FR Yugoslavia. And the UN Administration of Kosovo was by no means a permanent setup for Kosovo either. This is why UNMIK transferred power rover to the Kosovo Assembly in July 2008 and why Bank Ki Moon reconfigured the UNMIK mission into an observer role, not an administrative role.

Even Serbian politicians realise this, hence why they no longer bang on about UNSCR 1244 and bang on about the Serbian Constitution instead.

.....In 2012 exports to the UK were up by 140% compared to 2011......
(Ian, UK, 14 December 2012 10:44)

Though I don't doubt the accuracy of your comment, 140% increase in what exactly?

Regards

(Ian, UK, 14 December 2012 19:27)

Many thanks for that.
Though I wonder whether a substantial ammount of the increase quoted is actually goods in transit?

Ratko

oh yes, i remember the golden age of 'Kosmet' in the 90's, mass employment, a booming economy and constant salary increases! oh no wait, this is in that shelf, marked fiction. Another book to be found in this shelf, is Germany's dark plan to ruin Yugoslavia. Also CIA's links to Sloba, who was only misunderstood

"If Kosovars want to be fooled, let them be fooled. And let them even celebrate this happening, like Nikolle does."

brilliant sentence. serbs on the other hand have the best interest of the 93% Albanians that make up Kosova at heart, its those nasty Amercians we have to look out for. By the way, is Russia investing in Nis any different, or is that because they love you oh so much?

Wrong. It doesn't matter how many years have passed, when you have a setup that remains a setup. What has passage of time have to do with the truth? Time passing does not diminish the truth in any way, so we have someone questioning the so called humanitarian intervention which was really just a setup for booty grab.
(Peggy, 14 December 2012 10:47
Like I said there will never be any convincing you not in a hundred years. No matter how much evidence you will never believe anything innocent about the Albanians or Americans, but it is ironic you think the organ harvesting is gospel without a shred of evidence.
But for the sake of argument. If the action of NATO was not for humanitarian reasons, why would they have waited and lost all this money all these years?
But the facts are pure and simple it was a humanitarian mission irregardless of what happens today. Also the investment in Kosovo is more humanitarian in trying to stimulate the economy.
And if you note in the original article it says MAY and not WILL question. But reality will be the only people questioning it will be those like you who would never be convinced otherwise.

Though I don't doubt the accuracy of your comment, 140% increase in what exactly?

Regards
(wee kelpie, 14 December 2012 16:45)

It is in the second news story down. http://www.invest-ks.org/?cont=44

Agriculture, mining and food processing industries.

Well, it's rather simple. The US wanted another part of the world to rule and Kosovo's Albanians are easy. They seem to do anything for a glimpse into American life. Thus, they are easy to fool just like most of the low socioeconomic status people in the US. They are the ones buying the expensive sneakers and overspending on cars and cell phones. In the mean time, while they get further in debt, the US millionaires get richer, as they will here. So, enjoy you "friendship" with these devils. Of course, in a few moments someone will reply "but it's better than being under Serbia". To that I'll say, you are responsible for the decisions you make. Stop blaming others for your own problems. If you want to be like a real American, learn to act like one.
(Daniel, 13 December 2012 12:02)

Very wise words. Now if only the Serbs were able to use this advice when the Russians were buying Nis for dirt cheap, then that airline. It's interesting that you guys become illuminated when you think we Albanians are being taken for a ride. Thank you for your concern however focus on Serbia when it's taken for a ride. It seems that completely escaped your people as I didn't see any detailed analysis like this one when that happened. Ahh but I forget, you Serbs are smart and nobody can fool you while Albanians are easily fooled. Thank you for being such a highly intelligent people and teaching us about how this world works.

Actually by what you just said yourself it does present both in a bad way.

Questioning the "humanitarian intervention" is like saying that the whole thing was either set up or blown out of proportion for the sake of cashing in.
(Peggy, 13 December 2012 22:39)
Thats what happens when you only read the parts you want to, such as Serbs do with 1244. The part that follows said that since it was now 13 years after the intervention would be enough for any sane person to dispel those thoughts.
Of course we all know it is impossible for you to see anything positive when it comes to either Albanians or Amercans.

@Zoran

I think you can attribute the economic well being of Kosovo/a not to Yugoslavias investments but to the legal framework that was in place. Yugo might have been communist but it wasn't as communist as Albania. Property ownership laws existed in yugo as opposed to none in Albania during its communist era. Investments were misappropriated and stolen by Albanians and Serbs of Kosovo/a. You can deny the Serbs did it but ask the people there and all will tell you that the communist party brass all had their hands in the pot.

So were K. Albanians better off bc of the investments or bc of the law and the ownership laws in place? I will argue the latter bc as many of you noted different reasons why the investments never produced a good ROI. And if you look at investments from late 80's onwards it was practically nill from the 26% of the '70's. henceforth abandonment by the state is a fair assessment of belgrades policies.

As much as Serbians dislike Albanians if it wasn't for milo the magnificent Yugoslavia probably would still be intack. You see what nationalism does to a people? The lose the war in Slovenia (shortest war ever), Croatia, BH, and then Kosovo/a. This all could have been avoided with cool, calm, collected individuals that worked for the interest of the state and not their personal agendas.

I'll put in an offer of $1 which, to me, is an extremely high fair price. Maybe Serbia can buy Kosovo back? C'mon all, everyone put in a $1.

Nikolle,

Could you answer my question: You say there were no investments to Kosovo under Serbia. Which times are you talking about?

But for the sake of argument. If the action of NATO was not for humanitarian reasons, why would they have waited and lost all this money all these years?
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Those poor ever suffering tax payers have paid for this. The elites have what they wanted. You don't think it's odd that the very people who demanded Kosovo be ripped away and Serbia bombed now want to invest?
They never lose. Do you understand it now?

Wrong. Time is very important with UNSCR 1244 as it wasn't a final solution for Kosovo. It is not a permanent guarantee that Kosovo would be apart of FR Yugoslavia
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I am talking about historical facts where time doesn't change them. I don't know how you got off track that much.

Clark is going to give you pollution and lots of it. He is not permitted to do this in the US but will gladly give it to you all AND make a profit while shortening your life.

Halfbright is too greedy and narcissistic to be a business partner to anyone.

The US and these opportunistic folks have no friends, only interests.

To: Zoran

You paint the US is such a great light but you forget to mention the similarities of the communist state of Yugoslavia and how it used Kosovo/a for its resources and when it couldn't handle the people it just took their rights away. I can't blame all Yugoslavs but Serbia proper had a large part because it was their province.

So what is the difference between what happened in the past and what is currently happening. Lets see- years of subjugation, abuse and then abandonment by the state.

@ Serbs

What is wrong with this article? So what if anyone applies to privatise any company you can do that too, that is if you got the money. If I was to decide of course I would choose Albright, Clark and Clinton trillion times over and serbian businessmen. I see nothing wrong with this it's obvious the want to expand their companies. If we were not free Serbia would have sold then to Russia so for us it's fantastic if we get anyone serious investment we want. Sorry about my English.

I read this article yesterday and what B92 fails to mention is that no legitimate business wants to invest in "Kosova"*, so now the mafia in Pristina is selling this place to their partners in crime, their heroes. LOL!

"Their" energy company is gone and now "their" telecommunications company, the most profitable, will be gone and the money pocketed somewhere.

On the bright side, Serbia is cracking down on crime and corruption but it is flourishing in "Kosova"*. Investment into Serbia is increasing by powerful nations and companies, with legitimate interests. "Kosova"* is a failure and their "heroes" have returned to thieve whatever they can, to protect their egos.

So now lets wait and see, who will bring prosperity to the region? Serbia who is receiving investments from Russia and China or "Kosova"* who is selling their entity to their heroes. I know where my bets will go.

With highly influential politcal people having large investments in Kosovo, not only benefits the economy of Kosovo but it also insures that the US will never abandon the people of Kosovo. Their protection will be guaranteed. Thus Kosovo will never be Serbian again!
Just dashed another hope of the Serbs on this forum that the US would eventually leave Kosovo.

The messed up thing about all this....is you know this better than most Serbs do. This is what I will never understand. Your very presence here proves it.
(Ari Gold, 13 December 2012 18:35)
By "here" I assume you mean on B92-English version. Since I am neither Serbian or Albanian I do not understand either the Serbian or Albanian news sources, which brings to question why are you die hard nationalists using the English version and not the Serbian??If the goal of B92 was to only appeal to Serbs there would not be an English version, nor would they print comments that deviate from your agenda.
Did it ever occur to you that the people involved in the liberation of the Kosovo people from oppression actually do want to see it succeed? You are right in the hesitancy of a lot of businesses in investing in Kosovo, not because the heads of the Kosovo govt but because of the heads of Serbia. It is obvious that the return of Milosevicism is only a stones throw away and alot of business leaders are afraid of some type of Serbian takeover and then the usurpation of their assets inorder to put Kosovo back into the state it was in in the late 1990s. With some influential Americans taking the risk will relieve some of those fears and others will follow.

There is no policy against this in the State Department because this is actually the policy. Why are so many US officials buying businesses in Kosovo? Well, it's rather simple. The US wanted another part of the world to rule and Kosovo's Albanians are easy. They seem to do anything for a glimpse into American life. Thus, they are easy to fool just like most of the low socioeconomic status people in the US. They are the ones buying the expensive sneakers and overspending on cars and cell phones. In the mean time, while they get further in debt, the US millionaires get richer, as they will here. So, enjoy you "friendship" with these devils. Of course, in a few moments someone will reply "but it's better than being under Serbia". To that I'll say, you are responsible for the decisions you make. Stop blaming others for your own problems. If you want to be like a real American, learn to act like one.

Albright's support for Thaci(remember those kisses) was never unconditional.Now its payback time.

Oh I love Serbian reactions here. they're only using us apparently. well let us examine Kosova under Serbia shall we: no economy, no investments and no human rights. give me the blatant Yankee-Kosova colony over that one anytime of the day, week, year decade, century, millenium

Pure Mafia. In return for our protection and us beating up your enemies, you steal their house and we'll take what's in it. Oh and by the way you wont have to worry about any accusations of organ trading or war crimes we own the judges and the media.

Nice. And for any one out there that still believes that America is the good guy but is losing a little confidence in the idea, relax when you go to bed just keep repeating to yourself- all Serbs bad, all Albanians good-and you will soon calm down and go back to sleep.

To the Albanian community that visit this site just one question- don't you realise your being used? You will have nothing, they will own it all and all you will have as Daniel said is a nice pair of trainers. It's kind of like the Indians of the old wild west selling materials of value for a few beads and a bottle of whiskey- pretty soon they find themselves alcoholics, dependent on welfare and living on a reservation. Well I guess Kosovo is the reservation, you are on welfare, so where is that bottle of Jack Daniels they promised you?

So what is the difference between what happened in the past and what is currently happening. Lets see- years of subjugation, abuse and then abandonment by the state.
(Kiko, 13 December 2012 16:08)
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My friend, Kosovo may have been the poorest part of Yugoslavia but it was way ahead of Albania. So you can thank us for directing millions in investment into the province. Sure, Slovenia and Croatia weren't happy but now they realise how important Yugoslavia was to their economy.

So what is your excuse now? You have been on your own for 13 years and still have nothing to show for it apart from some statue of Bill "Pinocchio" Clinton. Aren't you guys embarrassed? Check -> http://w3spine.com/uploads/2012/08/14/cec4cd27d82c4c25333c560d30b65aff.jpg

Ha ha! And the albanians thought the west loved them for their charming personality and their beutiful women. Now we know why an independent Kosovo is important to the imperialist americans.

I guess slowly the Kosovo Albanians get what they deserve.

(think about it., 13 December 2012 16:45)

Businesses do not want to be anywhere near Kosovo i Metohija since the occupation and the only people that are left to buy up Serbia's property are the very warmongers who came to set up the occupation of Serbia's southern province.

The whole point of the article is the only Americans who are even interested in this territory are ones who have been involved with Kosovo i Metohija in the past.

Luckily, the likes of Clark and especially Albright are already in the last stage of their natural born life. As this generation passes, so will Greater Albania's lobby in the U.S. as the perpetrators will not be there to help you any longer.

The messed up thing about all this....is you know this better than most Serbs do. This is what I will never understand. Your very presence here proves it.

@ nikolle

It's not like they are going to ask you anything. As if you have a say in anything.. what a joke! But as long as it makes you feel important.

Right now there is no eceonomy in Kosmet thanks to uck terrorists and nato occupation. There is 50% unemployment. You don't even know how to operate Obilic power plant. What are you people good for? I remember just before nato criminals attacked Serbia in 98 the economy was doing ok and people were receiving constant salary increases. But then came democracy and human rights. Hey nikolle can you name me some big american companies which invested in Kosmet? I thought you guys are best friends.

Here is the alticle in full. Not very flattering for neither albs or imperialist yanks.

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(MikeC, 13 December 2012 18:35)
Thanks for the link, but I totally disagree with your summation. It does does not present the Albanians in any negative light. It also quotes one analyst as saying the entering into business of those who helped liberate Kosovo MAY cause others to question the humanitarian effort. However, the fact that we are now 13 years post intervention is enough for any sane person to dispel that belief.
At least we are talking about US investers paying fair market values and not Russian bargain basement rates as in Serbia.

War is the most lucrative business there is. The other day an article was published that shows that many if not most of retired US generals and admirals go work for the defence industry and lobby at the pentagon. Well, one needs to get rid of old harware before one can buy new one. Current generals and admirals lead luxurious lives and are lobbied. Biotech people go on the board of the FDA and vice versa. And diplomats go and work for companies. Meanwhile, humans are the cheapest commodities.

Usual American behavior.

1. "Liberate" the area
2. Buy up all the businesses and industries.

Albanians will remain poor for a long time.

What a coincidence that the telecommunications company is up for sale right during the talks about telecommunications (and other stuff) between Dacic and Thaci. Has something been agreed there? Separate prefix for Kosovo maybe? Withdrawal of property claims by Serbia over the telecommunications companies maybe? Why is there nobody protesting in Serbia's government over the sale of supposedly Serbia's property? The cherry on the cake though, is that these are being sold to one of the most "loved" people in Serbia, Mrs. Albright. And what is Serbia's reply? A meaningful silence. These are the questions to ask Zoran et al. But hey, whatever makes you people happy :).

Thanks for the link, but I totally disagree with your summation. It does does not present the Albanians in any negative light. It also quotes one analyst as saying the entering into business of those who helped liberate Kosovo MAY cause others to question the humanitarian effort
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Actually by what you just said yourself it does present both in a bad way.

Questioning the "humanitarian intervention" is like saying that the whole thing was either set up or blown out of proportion for the sake of cashing in.

I thought according to commenters on here, the Yanks where only supporting Kosovo for the short run, but now Yank Elites are buy business in Kosovo? I thought the US and Western support was only meant to be temporary?

And people are saying that the West doesn't want to invest in Kosovo?

63 German owned businesses alone invested in Kosovo from 2007-2012, including Porche, Volkswagen, Audi and SEAT. Canadian business Avrupa Minerals Ltd runs a massive minning programme in Kosovo. That is before we mention the even bigger Envidity project. Monaco Telecom has invested in Kosovo. iPKO Telecommunications is foreign owned. Many foreign airlines, whith Pristina's airport growing year upon year. In 2012 30 Dutch companies have invested in Kosovo with another 50 believed to do so soon. In 2012 exports to the UK were up by 140% compared to 2011. Abother 20 Turkish & 8 Polish businesses have recently decided to invest in Kosovo. Exports to the US doubled in 2012 compared to 2011 and 50 more US businesses signed deals to invest in Kosovo. Kosovan Banks doubled their profit in 2012. Austria has invested heavily in Kosovo.

And I'm not even going to mention Italy, France, Switzerland, Macedonia ect which have also invested heavily in Kosovo.

Kosovo has the fastest growing economy in Europe for a reason. I don't know why many commenters deny that the West is investing in Kosovo. It is almost as if they wish the West wasn't investing in Kosovo so you pretend it isn't happening.

and look at this link from Bloomberg on the subject, Mafia killings...

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-30/albright-firm-eyes-kosovos-contested-state-telecom

Please keep in mind in relation to this ongoing "business"...

Kosovo authorities have said the stress of investigation led Asanaj to kill himself. That finding is “unbelievable,” says William Bartlett, a senior researcher at the London School of Economics who has advised the European Commission and international organizations in Kosovo. “Kosovo is a lawless place,” Bartlett says. (That is the guy which had 11 knife wounds in the neck and the chest, with two fatal wounds reaching his lung and heart and which the investigators in Kosovo concluded he committed suicide).

Here is the alticle in full. Not very flattering for neither albs or imperialist yanks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/12/world/europe/americans-who-helped-free-kosovo-return-as-entrepreneurs.html?_r=0

That finding is “unbelievable,” says William Bartlett, a senior researcher at the London School of Economics who has advised the European Commission and international organizations in Kosovo. “Kosovo is a lawless place,” Bartlett says.
(vlad, 13 December 2012 18:34)
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My God, 11 stab wounds and they call it suicide? Bartlett is certainly right when he says "Kosova"* is lawless.

Ratko

oh yes, i remember the golden age of 'Kosmet' in the 90's, mass employment, a booming economy and constant salary increases! oh no wait, this is in that shelf, marked fiction. Another book to be found in this shelf, is Germany's dark plan to ruin Yugoslavia. Also CIA's links to Sloba, who was only misunderstood

"If Kosovars want to be fooled, let them be fooled. And let them even celebrate this happening, like Nikolle does."

brilliant sentence. serbs on the other hand have the best interest of the 93% Albanians that make up Kosova at heart, its those nasty Amercians we have to look out for. By the way, is Russia investing in Nis any different, or is that because they love you oh so much?

Thats what happens when you only read the parts you want to, such as Serbs do with 1244. The part that follows said that since it was now 13 years after the intervention would be enough for any sane person to dispel those thoughts.
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Wrong. It doesn't matter how many years have passed, when you have a setup that remains a setup. What has passage of time have to do with the truth? Time passing does not diminish the truth in any way, so we have someone questioning the so called humanitarian intervention which was really just a setup for booty grab.

Wrong. It doesn't matter how many years have passed, when you have a setup that remains a setup. What has passage of time have to do with the truth? Time passing does not diminish the truth in any way, so we have someone questioning the so called humanitarian intervention which was really just a setup for booty grab.
(Peggy, 14 December 2012 10:47)

Wrong. Time is very important with UNSCR 1244 as it wasn't a final solution for Kosovo. It is not a permanent guarantee that Kosovo would be apart of FR Yugoslavia. And the UN Administration of Kosovo was by no means a permanent setup for Kosovo either. This is why UNMIK transferred power rover to the Kosovo Assembly in July 2008 and why Bank Ki Moon reconfigured the UNMIK mission into an observer role, not an administrative role.

Even Serbian politicians realise this, hence why they no longer bang on about UNSCR 1244 and bang on about the Serbian Constitution instead.

Wrong. Time is very important with UNSCR 1244 as it wasn't a final solution for Kosovo. It is not a permanent guarantee that Kosovo would be apart of FR Yugoslavia
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I am talking about historical facts where time doesn't change them. I don't know how you got off track that much.

The Pristina authorities are making a mistake that the Belgrade Authorities did after Milosevic was ousted. 10 years from now people in Kosovo will realize that not all privitizations and foreign investment result in fair compensation or net benefit.

I'm pretty puzzled...

What is this talk that Kosovo, or state (=Thaci) has to choose between bidders? Is here something fishy? Isn't it done the way that the bidder that offers the biggest sum wins the game? What's going on here?

And if state is in a such economical jam that it needs to sell its best source of income, this tells the whole story of Kosovo today.

Then it's rather amusing to read Kosovars complaining that nothing was ever invested in Kosovo. Why amusing? Well, the friends of Kosovo, Slovenia and Croatia, complained for years that they are tired to finance Kosovo... and that was one reason for them to bury Yugoslavia. I've heard similar stories from Montenegrin mouths. That they never got anything from Yugoslavia, that they actually were robbed by Yugoslavia, that all that was built (railroad, port of Bar, hospitals...)after WW2 was paid solely by Montenegrins. So the truth must then be that the big moneys Slovenia and Croatia claim to have invested either never was sent or that Tito bought new trousers and cigars with that money.

What is here to do? If Kosovars want to be fooled, let them be fooled. And let them even celebrate this happening, like Nikolle does.

Though I have a question to Nikolle: You say there were no investments to Kosovo under Serbia. Could you tell me which times you are talking about?

Actually by what you just said yourself it does present both in a bad way.

Questioning the "humanitarian intervention" is like saying that the whole thing was either set up or blown out of proportion for the sake of cashing in.
(Peggy, 13 December 2012 22:39)
Thats what happens when you only read the parts you want to, such as Serbs do with 1244. The part that follows said that since it was now 13 years after the intervention would be enough for any sane person to dispel those thoughts.
Of course we all know it is impossible for you to see anything positive when it comes to either Albanians or Amercans.

I'll put in an offer of $1 which, to me, is an extremely high fair price. Maybe Serbia can buy Kosovo back? C'mon all, everyone put in a $1.

Wrong. It doesn't matter how many years have passed, when you have a setup that remains a setup. What has passage of time have to do with the truth? Time passing does not diminish the truth in any way, so we have someone questioning the so called humanitarian intervention which was really just a setup for booty grab.
(Peggy, 14 December 2012 10:47
Like I said there will never be any convincing you not in a hundred years. No matter how much evidence you will never believe anything innocent about the Albanians or Americans, but it is ironic you think the organ harvesting is gospel without a shred of evidence.
But for the sake of argument. If the action of NATO was not for humanitarian reasons, why would they have waited and lost all this money all these years?
But the facts are pure and simple it was a humanitarian mission irregardless of what happens today. Also the investment in Kosovo is more humanitarian in trying to stimulate the economy.
And if you note in the original article it says MAY and not WILL question. But reality will be the only people questioning it will be those like you who would never be convinced otherwise.

.....In 2012 exports to the UK were up by 140% compared to 2011......
(Ian, UK, 14 December 2012 10:44)

Though I don't doubt the accuracy of your comment, 140% increase in what exactly?

Regards

Nikolle,

Could you answer my question: You say there were no investments to Kosovo under Serbia. Which times are you talking about?

But for the sake of argument. If the action of NATO was not for humanitarian reasons, why would they have waited and lost all this money all these years?
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Those poor ever suffering tax payers have paid for this. The elites have what they wanted. You don't think it's odd that the very people who demanded Kosovo be ripped away and Serbia bombed now want to invest?
They never lose. Do you understand it now?

@Zoran

I think you can attribute the economic well being of Kosovo/a not to Yugoslavias investments but to the legal framework that was in place. Yugo might have been communist but it wasn't as communist as Albania. Property ownership laws existed in yugo as opposed to none in Albania during its communist era. Investments were misappropriated and stolen by Albanians and Serbs of Kosovo/a. You can deny the Serbs did it but ask the people there and all will tell you that the communist party brass all had their hands in the pot.

So were K. Albanians better off bc of the investments or bc of the law and the ownership laws in place? I will argue the latter bc as many of you noted different reasons why the investments never produced a good ROI. And if you look at investments from late 80's onwards it was practically nill from the 26% of the '70's. henceforth abandonment by the state is a fair assessment of belgrades policies.

As much as Serbians dislike Albanians if it wasn't for milo the magnificent Yugoslavia probably would still be intack. You see what nationalism does to a people? The lose the war in Slovenia (shortest war ever), Croatia, BH, and then Kosovo/a. This all could have been avoided with cool, calm, collected individuals that worked for the interest of the state and not their personal agendas.

Though I don't doubt the accuracy of your comment, 140% increase in what exactly?

Regards
(wee kelpie, 14 December 2012 16:45)

It is in the second news story down. http://www.invest-ks.org/?cont=44

Agriculture, mining and food processing industries.

Clark is going to give you pollution and lots of it. He is not permitted to do this in the US but will gladly give it to you all AND make a profit while shortening your life.

Halfbright is too greedy and narcissistic to be a business partner to anyone.

The US and these opportunistic folks have no friends, only interests.

(Ian, UK, 14 December 2012 19:27)

Many thanks for that.
Though I wonder whether a substantial ammount of the increase quoted is actually goods in transit?

Well, it's rather simple. The US wanted another part of the world to rule and Kosovo's Albanians are easy. They seem to do anything for a glimpse into American life. Thus, they are easy to fool just like most of the low socioeconomic status people in the US. They are the ones buying the expensive sneakers and overspending on cars and cell phones. In the mean time, while they get further in debt, the US millionaires get richer, as they will here. So, enjoy you "friendship" with these devils. Of course, in a few moments someone will reply "but it's better than being under Serbia". To that I'll say, you are responsible for the decisions you make. Stop blaming others for your own problems. If you want to be like a real American, learn to act like one.
(Daniel, 13 December 2012 12:02)

Very wise words. Now if only the Serbs were able to use this advice when the Russians were buying Nis for dirt cheap, then that airline. It's interesting that you guys become illuminated when you think we Albanians are being taken for a ride. Thank you for your concern however focus on Serbia when it's taken for a ride. It seems that completely escaped your people as I didn't see any detailed analysis like this one when that happened. Ahh but I forget, you Serbs are smart and nobody can fool you while Albanians are easily fooled. Thank you for being such a highly intelligent people and teaching us about how this world works.