Reed New York times and you will see ... don't just write things what someone else tell you to write.Try to not be just on one side of the road,this things matter all people in that part of world.You, like others live in Europe not in USA do not forget that.Today you have America help, tomorrow who know what ..bombs maybe? ...again...think about it.
You forgot one important fact Bosnian and Croats have fought with each other! Many Albanians have been in Croatian and Bosnian army! Mny Albanians have been kiled in ''friendly''NATO bombing (they have been called colateral damage)That doesn't diminishes civil victims neither side.The thing is to admit all this facts witch Croatian,Bosnian and Albanian side are not do.In the same time during so called Serb Agresion on all this 3 countries ,in Serbia live people all nations ?? Croatia have become Ethnically pure country,Bosnian have divided country on Bosnian,Serb and Croat ...they even divide they own people, for Izetbegovic who is for war and for Abdic who is for peace.Albanians have Ethnically clean Kosovo !? In the same time who ever want to run away from this 3 country have find their place in Serbia!!! Croat,Bosnian,Albanian and Serb!!! Croatia did not want to return Serbs or other nations in their own house and land,they done that after EU pressure.Same in Bosnia and same on Kosovo even now! What can I as a foreigner who is follow things in former Yugoslavia conclude based on these things? Serbs are the worst ?! I don't think so!!!!!
As long as world with USA on the head stand on one side in every conflict,there will not be justice.USA is the one who said that Haag tribunal can't judge their citizen..justice equal for all ?
So will they seek justice for the thousands of croats bosnians and albanians that were killed by serb agression? The least civilians killed in each war are serbs and the most are 1 bosnians 2 croatians 3 albanians and 4 serbs. This shows very easily who were the biggest killers of civilians. The world knows this, only serbs dont want to accept the truth.
"The Serbian president and the president of the UN General Assembly met on Monday, to also conclude that the recent verdicts of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (Hague Tribunal) "practically froze the reconciliation process until a just epilogue"."
Nice that even the President of the UNGA agreed with Tomislav. What a surprise LOL
So basically what you are saying is that keep having all sorts of court cases and meetings and UN debates etc until you get the decision YOU want.
Actually a mature intellect doesnt work that way. Once it agrees with a procedure or mechanism, it must then accept a final decision of that procedure or mechanism - even if it views the outcome as wrong.
You are free to disagree with any verdict of the Hague as is your right to draw your own conclusions - as is the right of anyone else to disagree with you.
But the inablity of not being able to accept a differing opinion other than yours is not a reflection of the Hague , or the UN ans so on, but a true and accurate reflection if the limitations and shortcomings of the individual.
Time to grow up and accept that the universe wasnt created to be subject to you or your subjective opinions.
Only reconciliation can bring compromise. As long as each party cry injustice, there will be no compromise or justice for the victims. Only political will of the Croatian Parliament may revoke the sentence of Gotovina and Markac. This is what I think.
azir said, "Former Governor and convicted Felon Blagovic of Illinois is just one of many examples."
The implication being that Blagojevich is a Serb therefore he is a criminal.
Some 79 Illinois, Chicago or Cook County elected officials had been found guilty since 1972: three governors, two other state officials, 15 state legislators, two congressmen, one mayor, three other city officials, 27 aldermen, 19 Cook County judges and seven other Cook County officials. Blagojevich is a crooked Illinois politician.
Using collective guilt, as azir does, then ALL Albanians are just like Bruno Krasniqi, Saimir Krasniq, Erkliant Sula,Skender Cakoni,Gjovalin Berisha,Nazih Nasser,Gentian, Nikolli,Shkelzen Balidemaj,Plaurent Cela. The FBI arrested them on charges murder, kidnapping, drugs and racketeering.
Then ALL Albanians are like brothers Sain Duka,Eljvir Duka,Dritan Duka in prison for life for plotting mass killings at a US base in NJ. Like Arid Uka who shot 2 US airman and Sami Osmakac arrested in Florida for plotting terrorist attacks using a car bomb, machine guns and other explosives.
Using azir's sick and perverted collective guilt ... ALL Albanians must belong to the mafia.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/07/2562296/verdict-feds-chip-away-new-york-albanian-mob-bigger-battles-come
All Muslims must be terrorists, too, IF you think like azir and many others who comment here.
This is why collective guilt has no place in a civilized society.
Tomislav Nikolić and Vuk Jeremić have agreed that despite the pressures, there would be no compromise in seeking justice for the innocent victims. That is good the criminal wars Belgrade Serbia waged to make a criminal Greater Serbia on other country's. Serbia is willing to make monetary restitution for its many criminal crimes. Abolish the criminal Srpska entity aka Greater Serbia in the victimized country Bosnia of Serbia's criminal aggression. Nikolić is repentant for being a dufus chetnik of Vojislav Šešelj rite hand partner in crimes. Serbia is sorry it duped lied ,stirred ,armed the minority Serbs in the other country's. Will compensate them and those country's for all Serbia's criminal doings. Ya rite more nonsense from Serbia the world looks at Serbia and its pathetic politicians and rolls their eyes in unison at their stupidity.
One idea could now be to open a new court international court for world crimes were the jury will have a member from all countries in the world and were the prosses will be harder to release anyone since it would be harder for the west world to control it as they did. I mean, Make a after court to prosses the information to see if they can find any thing that is missing and were it went wrong. As we know you cant read one newspaper and believe it is all tru u need to find another source to!! To be sure and both has to be independent. So now the west went tru this now let the united nations go thru the court info to see if they can find something. And now would be the time to check on all the judge´s and look in to their personal life and see who gave the order about the release. This does not mean that the people need to go to court but just to prosses everything and if they find something interesting i believe that these "innocent" people that got realesed have nothing against going for another questioning in the superial court. Hauge should end now!!
The best thing to do would be to simply turn the page and take these lost energies to build a better future for both Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks. During the civil war, all sides have committed atrocities and crimes that have shocked the world. It's time to stop stirring the facts and move on.
"You had the Serbian president die in the Hague. You have all the other tip generals and leaders in the Hague. "
As a matter of fact, the rest of the Serbian state leadership was not indicted along with Milosevic, meaning that when he died, any official examination of the official state policy during those years came to an end. Milosevic did not rule as a sole dictator, after all. Another poor decision on the prosecutor's part, although maybe she felt it was necessary to get Milosevic handed over.
Azir, as far as any intelligent person can see, there has been justice for victims of any Serb violence. Do you not read the papers? Who else do you want to go the tribunal. You had the Serbian president die in the Hague. You have all the other tip generals and leaders in the Hague. Who else should go, Djokovic for beating Federer on the court? Serb victims deserve justice too. What makes their innocent victims different? Remember, I am writing about innocent people. Are some victims better than others? That logic (yours) is not accepted by any God, no matter what name that God goes by.
Azir, as far as any intelligent person can see, there has been justice for victims of any Serb violence. Do you not read the papers? Who else do you want to go the tribunal. You had the Serbian president die in the Hague. You have all the other tip generals and leaders in the Hague. Who else should go, Djokovic for beating Federer on the court? Serb victims deserve justice too. What makes their innocent victims different? Remember, I am writing about innocent people. Are some victims better than others? That logic (yours) is not accepted by any God, no matter what name that God goes by.
azir said, "Former Governor and convicted Felon Blagovic of Illinois is just one of many examples."
The implication being that Blagojevich is a Serb therefore he is a criminal.
Some 79 Illinois, Chicago or Cook County elected officials had been found guilty since 1972: three governors, two other state officials, 15 state legislators, two congressmen, one mayor, three other city officials, 27 aldermen, 19 Cook County judges and seven other Cook County officials. Blagojevich is a crooked Illinois politician.
Using collective guilt, as azir does, then ALL Albanians are just like Bruno Krasniqi, Saimir Krasniq, Erkliant Sula,Skender Cakoni,Gjovalin Berisha,Nazih Nasser,Gentian, Nikolli,Shkelzen Balidemaj,Plaurent Cela. The FBI arrested them on charges murder, kidnapping, drugs and racketeering.
Then ALL Albanians are like brothers Sain Duka,Eljvir Duka,Dritan Duka in prison for life for plotting mass killings at a US base in NJ. Like Arid Uka who shot 2 US airman and Sami Osmakac arrested in Florida for plotting terrorist attacks using a car bomb, machine guns and other explosives.
Using azir's sick and perverted collective guilt ... ALL Albanians must belong to the mafia.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/07/2562296/verdict-feds-chip-away-new-york-albanian-mob-bigger-battles-come
All Muslims must be terrorists, too, IF you think like azir and many others who comment here.
This is why collective guilt has no place in a civilized society.
"You had the Serbian president die in the Hague. You have all the other tip generals and leaders in the Hague. "
As a matter of fact, the rest of the Serbian state leadership was not indicted along with Milosevic, meaning that when he died, any official examination of the official state policy during those years came to an end. Milosevic did not rule as a sole dictator, after all. Another poor decision on the prosecutor's part, although maybe she felt it was necessary to get Milosevic handed over.
The best thing to do would be to simply turn the page and take these lost energies to build a better future for both Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks. During the civil war, all sides have committed atrocities and crimes that have shocked the world. It's time to stop stirring the facts and move on.
Tomislav Nikolić and Vuk Jeremić have agreed that despite the pressures, there would be no compromise in seeking justice for the innocent victims. That is good the criminal wars Belgrade Serbia waged to make a criminal Greater Serbia on other country's. Serbia is willing to make monetary restitution for its many criminal crimes. Abolish the criminal Srpska entity aka Greater Serbia in the victimized country Bosnia of Serbia's criminal aggression. Nikolić is repentant for being a dufus chetnik of Vojislav Šešelj rite hand partner in crimes. Serbia is sorry it duped lied ,stirred ,armed the minority Serbs in the other country's. Will compensate them and those country's for all Serbia's criminal doings. Ya rite more nonsense from Serbia the world looks at Serbia and its pathetic politicians and rolls their eyes in unison at their stupidity.
One idea could now be to open a new court international court for world crimes were the jury will have a member from all countries in the world and were the prosses will be harder to release anyone since it would be harder for the west world to control it as they did. I mean, Make a after court to prosses the information to see if they can find any thing that is missing and were it went wrong. As we know you cant read one newspaper and believe it is all tru u need to find another source to!! To be sure and both has to be independent. So now the west went tru this now let the united nations go thru the court info to see if they can find something. And now would be the time to check on all the judge´s and look in to their personal life and see who gave the order about the release. This does not mean that the people need to go to court but just to prosses everything and if they find something interesting i believe that these "innocent" people that got realesed have nothing against going for another questioning in the superial court. Hauge should end now!!
Only reconciliation can bring compromise. As long as each party cry injustice, there will be no compromise or justice for the victims. Only political will of the Croatian Parliament may revoke the sentence of Gotovina and Markac. This is what I think.
So will they seek justice for the thousands of croats bosnians and albanians that were killed by serb agression? The least civilians killed in each war are serbs and the most are 1 bosnians 2 croatians 3 albanians and 4 serbs. This shows very easily who were the biggest killers of civilians. The world knows this, only serbs dont want to accept the truth.
As long as world with USA on the head stand on one side in every conflict,there will not be justice.USA is the one who said that Haag tribunal can't judge their citizen..justice equal for all ?
So basically what you are saying is that keep having all sorts of court cases and meetings and UN debates etc until you get the decision YOU want.
Actually a mature intellect doesnt work that way. Once it agrees with a procedure or mechanism, it must then accept a final decision of that procedure or mechanism - even if it views the outcome as wrong.
You are free to disagree with any verdict of the Hague as is your right to draw your own conclusions - as is the right of anyone else to disagree with you.
But the inablity of not being able to accept a differing opinion other than yours is not a reflection of the Hague , or the UN ans so on, but a true and accurate reflection if the limitations and shortcomings of the individual.
Time to grow up and accept that the universe wasnt created to be subject to you or your subjective opinions.
"The Serbian president and the president of the UN General Assembly met on Monday, to also conclude that the recent verdicts of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (Hague Tribunal) "practically froze the reconciliation process until a just epilogue"."
Nice that even the President of the UNGA agreed with Tomislav. What a surprise LOL
You forgot one important fact Bosnian and Croats have fought with each other! Many Albanians have been in Croatian and Bosnian army! Mny Albanians have been kiled in ''friendly''NATO bombing (they have been called colateral damage)That doesn't diminishes civil victims neither side.The thing is to admit all this facts witch Croatian,Bosnian and Albanian side are not do.In the same time during so called Serb Agresion on all this 3 countries ,in Serbia live people all nations ?? Croatia have become Ethnically pure country,Bosnian have divided country on Bosnian,Serb and Croat ...they even divide they own people, for Izetbegovic who is for war and for Abdic who is for peace.Albanians have Ethnically clean Kosovo !? In the same time who ever want to run away from this 3 country have find their place in Serbia!!! Croat,Bosnian,Albanian and Serb!!! Croatia did not want to return Serbs or other nations in their own house and land,they done that after EU pressure.Same in Bosnia and same on Kosovo even now! What can I as a foreigner who is follow things in former Yugoslavia conclude based on these things? Serbs are the worst ?! I don't think so!!!!!
Reed New York times and you will see ... don't just write things what someone else tell you to write.Try to not be just on one side of the road,this things matter all people in that part of world.You, like others live in Europe not in USA do not forget that.Today you have America help, tomorrow who know what ..bombs maybe? ...again...think about it.
The best thing to do would be to simply turn the page and take these lost energies to build a better future for both Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks. During the civil war, all sides have committed atrocities and crimes that have shocked the world. It's time to stop stirring the facts and move on.
Tomislav Nikolić and Vuk Jeremić have agreed that despite the pressures, there would be no compromise in seeking justice for the innocent victims. That is good the criminal wars Belgrade Serbia waged to make a criminal Greater Serbia on other country's. Serbia is willing to make monetary restitution for its many criminal crimes. Abolish the criminal Srpska entity aka Greater Serbia in the victimized country Bosnia of Serbia's criminal aggression. Nikolić is repentant for being a dufus chetnik of Vojislav Šešelj rite hand partner in crimes. Serbia is sorry it duped lied ,stirred ,armed the minority Serbs in the other country's. Will compensate them and those country's for all Serbia's criminal doings. Ya rite more nonsense from Serbia the world looks at Serbia and its pathetic politicians and rolls their eyes in unison at their stupidity.
"You had the Serbian president die in the Hague. You have all the other tip generals and leaders in the Hague. "
As a matter of fact, the rest of the Serbian state leadership was not indicted along with Milosevic, meaning that when he died, any official examination of the official state policy during those years came to an end. Milosevic did not rule as a sole dictator, after all. Another poor decision on the prosecutor's part, although maybe she felt it was necessary to get Milosevic handed over.
azir said, "Former Governor and convicted Felon Blagovic of Illinois is just one of many examples."
The implication being that Blagojevich is a Serb therefore he is a criminal.
Some 79 Illinois, Chicago or Cook County elected officials had been found guilty since 1972: three governors, two other state officials, 15 state legislators, two congressmen, one mayor, three other city officials, 27 aldermen, 19 Cook County judges and seven other Cook County officials. Blagojevich is a crooked Illinois politician.
Using collective guilt, as azir does, then ALL Albanians are just like Bruno Krasniqi, Saimir Krasniq, Erkliant Sula,Skender Cakoni,Gjovalin Berisha,Nazih Nasser,Gentian, Nikolli,Shkelzen Balidemaj,Plaurent Cela. The FBI arrested them on charges murder, kidnapping, drugs and racketeering.
Then ALL Albanians are like brothers Sain Duka,Eljvir Duka,Dritan Duka in prison for life for plotting mass killings at a US base in NJ. Like Arid Uka who shot 2 US airman and Sami Osmakac arrested in Florida for plotting terrorist attacks using a car bomb, machine guns and other explosives.
Using azir's sick and perverted collective guilt ... ALL Albanians must belong to the mafia.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/07/2562296/verdict-feds-chip-away-new-york-albanian-mob-bigger-battles-come
All Muslims must be terrorists, too, IF you think like azir and many others who comment here.
This is why collective guilt has no place in a civilized society.
Azir, as far as any intelligent person can see, there has been justice for victims of any Serb violence. Do you not read the papers? Who else do you want to go the tribunal. You had the Serbian president die in the Hague. You have all the other tip generals and leaders in the Hague. Who else should go, Djokovic for beating Federer on the court? Serb victims deserve justice too. What makes their innocent victims different? Remember, I am writing about innocent people. Are some victims better than others? That logic (yours) is not accepted by any God, no matter what name that God goes by.
Only reconciliation can bring compromise. As long as each party cry injustice, there will be no compromise or justice for the victims. Only political will of the Croatian Parliament may revoke the sentence of Gotovina and Markac. This is what I think.
Reed New York times and you will see ... don't just write things what someone else tell you to write.Try to not be just on one side of the road,this things matter all people in that part of world.You, like others live in Europe not in USA do not forget that.Today you have America help, tomorrow who know what ..bombs maybe? ...again...think about it.
One idea could now be to open a new court international court for world crimes were the jury will have a member from all countries in the world and were the prosses will be harder to release anyone since it would be harder for the west world to control it as they did. I mean, Make a after court to prosses the information to see if they can find any thing that is missing and were it went wrong. As we know you cant read one newspaper and believe it is all tru u need to find another source to!! To be sure and both has to be independent. So now the west went tru this now let the united nations go thru the court info to see if they can find something. And now would be the time to check on all the judge´s and look in to their personal life and see who gave the order about the release. This does not mean that the people need to go to court but just to prosses everything and if they find something interesting i believe that these "innocent" people that got realesed have nothing against going for another questioning in the superial court. Hauge should end now!!
So will they seek justice for the thousands of croats bosnians and albanians that were killed by serb agression? The least civilians killed in each war are serbs and the most are 1 bosnians 2 croatians 3 albanians and 4 serbs. This shows very easily who were the biggest killers of civilians. The world knows this, only serbs dont want to accept the truth.
You forgot one important fact Bosnian and Croats have fought with each other! Many Albanians have been in Croatian and Bosnian army! Mny Albanians have been kiled in ''friendly''NATO bombing (they have been called colateral damage)That doesn't diminishes civil victims neither side.The thing is to admit all this facts witch Croatian,Bosnian and Albanian side are not do.In the same time during so called Serb Agresion on all this 3 countries ,in Serbia live people all nations ?? Croatia have become Ethnically pure country,Bosnian have divided country on Bosnian,Serb and Croat ...they even divide they own people, for Izetbegovic who is for war and for Abdic who is for peace.Albanians have Ethnically clean Kosovo !? In the same time who ever want to run away from this 3 country have find their place in Serbia!!! Croat,Bosnian,Albanian and Serb!!! Croatia did not want to return Serbs or other nations in their own house and land,they done that after EU pressure.Same in Bosnia and same on Kosovo even now! What can I as a foreigner who is follow things in former Yugoslavia conclude based on these things? Serbs are the worst ?! I don't think so!!!!!
So basically what you are saying is that keep having all sorts of court cases and meetings and UN debates etc until you get the decision YOU want.
Actually a mature intellect doesnt work that way. Once it agrees with a procedure or mechanism, it must then accept a final decision of that procedure or mechanism - even if it views the outcome as wrong.
You are free to disagree with any verdict of the Hague as is your right to draw your own conclusions - as is the right of anyone else to disagree with you.
But the inablity of not being able to accept a differing opinion other than yours is not a reflection of the Hague , or the UN ans so on, but a true and accurate reflection if the limitations and shortcomings of the individual.
Time to grow up and accept that the universe wasnt created to be subject to you or your subjective opinions.
"The Serbian president and the president of the UN General Assembly met on Monday, to also conclude that the recent verdicts of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (Hague Tribunal) "practically froze the reconciliation process until a just epilogue"."
Nice that even the President of the UNGA agreed with Tomislav. What a surprise LOL
As long as world with USA on the head stand on one side in every conflict,there will not be justice.USA is the one who said that Haag tribunal can't judge their citizen..justice equal for all ?
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