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pre 11 godina
BORDER crossings.
Monday, 10.12.2012.
09:25
The implementation of the Brussels agreement between Belgrade and Priština on integrated management of crossings has started at Jarinje and Merdare.
Izvor: Tanjug
pre 11 godina
BORDER crossings.
pre 11 godina
What the IBM stands for? Integraded border management? Why then "translate" it to "integrated management of crossings"? It's allready in English.
pre 11 godina
Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
So Serbia/ Yugoslavia wasn't a country between 1991 and 2000? And had the US decided to veto Yugoslavia's UN membership application, Serbia wouldn't be considered a country today and just be a disputed territory?
Also Belarus and Ukraine were UN members from 1945-91 without being a "legitimate and sovereign country".
pre 11 godina
Nobody is denying there is a occupation in Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
Can you show me where Serbia declared Kosovo as "occupied territory". Georgia did this with Abk. and SO. and even ceased all diplomatic ties with all countries which does not recognize Georgia's borders. Did Serbia did this, even close something like this?
BTW: Today Domenica recognized Kosovo as an independent country, making it number 97 and for the first time more countries recognizes Kosovo than Serbia's claim.
pre 11 godina
Let's be honest and say that Albanians serve to USA so that America can be closer to Russia.Second thing there are so many roads going from Kosovo(roads build by America) where you can see daily transportation of natural resources from this territory.What will happen when they collect all,are they going to still need Albanians ..I don't think so ,that is why they still have "asterisk" just reminder to who they belong,only what they can hope to is to get some nice rezervat.
pre 11 godina
Serbia has totally embraced the independence of Kosovo with this border crossing where customs will be collected. It's an international border. So there are no state symbols of Kosovo, there are no state symbols of Serbia either. There are symbols of eu and that doesn't exist in other countries but because Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence it exists between Kosovo and Serbia because Dacic and nikolic have embraced Kosovo independence
pre 11 godina
Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
So far I thought you were a real Serb patriot, but the above is a traitorous statement. No Serb patriot would ever say that Serbia was not a legitimate country until 1945 !!!
pre 11 godina
But can you name me a single country on this planet that is FORBIDDEN to have "state" symbols at their 'border crossings'?? No you cannot. Because currently Kosovo i Metohija has more than autonomy less than independence, which was Vojislav Kostunica's position back in 2004 even.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 13:05)
That's great that even a great Serb patriot live Vojislav endorses the current situation. So we finally have an agreement between Serbs and Albanians. That's very nice.
pre 11 godina
Hmm, it is looking more and more like "more than autonomy, less than independence."
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border. Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35) Kosovo is not a recognized independent state. No matter what you call it, it is not a state.
pre 11 godina
Me don't gets it! If my main man Thaqi claimes Kosovo is independente why it ain't show flagg or state symbols at border? Me thinket Eu made compromize to serbs. Any independent country would insisted on nation flag at crossing. This reminds me when me visit my main homie in prison. My question: is Kosovo a prison?
pre 11 godina
It's been to long to keep blocking each other at these crossing, I think it's a good news to finally start doing something peaceful and good for people living in those areas. I hope there won't be anymore barricades or some other conflicts between Serbs and Albanians. Live in peace with each other and forget stupid nationalism.
pre 11 godina
No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35)
From what I understand from you Albanians that live in Detroit and Brooklyn...in America you need an ID too enter a Prison or a Military Base !!! Which one is Kosovo?!?!
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35)
Nobody is denying there is a occupation in Serbia. The ID's are just evidence of such occupation. But none of that makes you a country. Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory. Kosovo=Palestine, Northern Cyprus, South Ossetia, Abkhazia etcetc.
Sorry :(
pre 11 godina
@koso,
You made my point koso. There isn't one, the sign entering KiM should read "welcome to more than autonomy less than independence".
pre 11 godina
@Vini,
I don't know if you have ever been to the U.S. but there are welcome signs when crossing from one state into another. So your "welcome to kosovo" sign means nothing in regards to independence.
pre 11 godina
It's our own fault.It's Kosovo's and Serbia's. If we continue to let the EU do our "homework" then we both (albanians and serbs) will be doomed in this so called "Administrative border crossing".
Kosovo will not be a country in it's fully and Serbia will be a country without a clear territory.
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
pre 11 godina
Can name me an international border anywhere in the world without state symbols present?
(Robert1899, 10 December 2012 12:52)
YES, I can! Kosovo - Serbia border, currently at two (2) border posts and another four (4) expected to be up and operational before the end of the year.
Tungi,
pre 11 godina
Ari Gold
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck: it is a duck. In a neutral territory it has been agreed not to put any state symbols, but soon as you cross those containers you do have a sign wellcoming you to Kosova. Next time you swing by, make sure you carry your passport with you
pre 11 godina
Can you name a single country on this planet, with similar IBM system between provinces within one country?
(Kosova-USA, 10 December 2012 12:17)
But can you name me a single country on this planet that is FORBIDDEN to have "state" symbols at their 'border crossings'?? No you cannot. Because currently Kosovo i Metohija has more than autonomy less than independence, which was Vojislav Kostunica's position back in 2004 even.
So you can sugar coat it any way you like, but your insecurity is obvious. All those crossings represent is a symbolic representation of what is currently happening in Serbia's Holy Christian province and that is above all else-occupation.
pre 11 godina
The Jarinje checkpoint was opened under the IBM agreement. There are no "state symbols" at the location, said reports.
Why should there state symbols at a provincial border?
(Questioner, 10 December 2012 11:01)
Can you name a single country on this planet, with similar IBM system between provinces within one country?
pre 11 godina
@ kosova-usaCan name me an international border anywhere in the world without state symbols present?
pre 11 godina
The Jarinje checkpoint was opened under the IBM agreement. There are no "state symbols" at the location, said reports.
Why should there state symbols at a provincial border?
pre 11 godina
All this is pointless but anyway it serves well in discriminating each other.
Few decades in the future and all this will be a joke and the very governments will pull them down themselves.
pre 11 godina
The Jarinje checkpoint was opened under the IBM agreement. There are no "state symbols" at the location, said reports.
Why should there state symbols at a provincial border?
(Questioner, 10 December 2012 11:01)
Can you name a single country on this planet, with similar IBM system between provinces within one country?
pre 11 godina
All this is pointless but anyway it serves well in discriminating each other.
Few decades in the future and all this will be a joke and the very governments will pull them down themselves.
pre 11 godina
The Jarinje checkpoint was opened under the IBM agreement. There are no "state symbols" at the location, said reports.
Why should there state symbols at a provincial border?
pre 11 godina
Ari Gold
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck: it is a duck. In a neutral territory it has been agreed not to put any state symbols, but soon as you cross those containers you do have a sign wellcoming you to Kosova. Next time you swing by, make sure you carry your passport with you
pre 11 godina
Can name me an international border anywhere in the world without state symbols present?
(Robert1899, 10 December 2012 12:52)
YES, I can! Kosovo - Serbia border, currently at two (2) border posts and another four (4) expected to be up and operational before the end of the year.
Tungi,
pre 11 godina
Can you name a single country on this planet, with similar IBM system between provinces within one country?
(Kosova-USA, 10 December 2012 12:17)
But can you name me a single country on this planet that is FORBIDDEN to have "state" symbols at their 'border crossings'?? No you cannot. Because currently Kosovo i Metohija has more than autonomy less than independence, which was Vojislav Kostunica's position back in 2004 even.
So you can sugar coat it any way you like, but your insecurity is obvious. All those crossings represent is a symbolic representation of what is currently happening in Serbia's Holy Christian province and that is above all else-occupation.
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
pre 11 godina
@ kosova-usaCan name me an international border anywhere in the world without state symbols present?
pre 11 godina
@Vini,
I don't know if you have ever been to the U.S. but there are welcome signs when crossing from one state into another. So your "welcome to kosovo" sign means nothing in regards to independence.
pre 11 godina
It's been to long to keep blocking each other at these crossing, I think it's a good news to finally start doing something peaceful and good for people living in those areas. I hope there won't be anymore barricades or some other conflicts between Serbs and Albanians. Live in peace with each other and forget stupid nationalism.
pre 11 godina
It's our own fault.It's Kosovo's and Serbia's. If we continue to let the EU do our "homework" then we both (albanians and serbs) will be doomed in this so called "Administrative border crossing".
Kosovo will not be a country in it's fully and Serbia will be a country without a clear territory.
pre 11 godina
@koso,
You made my point koso. There isn't one, the sign entering KiM should read "welcome to more than autonomy less than independence".
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35)
Nobody is denying there is a occupation in Serbia. The ID's are just evidence of such occupation. But none of that makes you a country. Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory. Kosovo=Palestine, Northern Cyprus, South Ossetia, Abkhazia etcetc.
Sorry :(
pre 11 godina
No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35)
From what I understand from you Albanians that live in Detroit and Brooklyn...in America you need an ID too enter a Prison or a Military Base !!! Which one is Kosovo?!?!
pre 11 godina
Me don't gets it! If my main man Thaqi claimes Kosovo is independente why it ain't show flagg or state symbols at border? Me thinket Eu made compromize to serbs. Any independent country would insisted on nation flag at crossing. This reminds me when me visit my main homie in prison. My question: is Kosovo a prison?
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border. Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35) Kosovo is not a recognized independent state. No matter what you call it, it is not a state.
pre 11 godina
Hmm, it is looking more and more like "more than autonomy, less than independence."
pre 11 godina
Nobody is denying there is a occupation in Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
Can you show me where Serbia declared Kosovo as "occupied territory". Georgia did this with Abk. and SO. and even ceased all diplomatic ties with all countries which does not recognize Georgia's borders. Did Serbia did this, even close something like this?
BTW: Today Domenica recognized Kosovo as an independent country, making it number 97 and for the first time more countries recognizes Kosovo than Serbia's claim.
pre 11 godina
Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
So Serbia/ Yugoslavia wasn't a country between 1991 and 2000? And had the US decided to veto Yugoslavia's UN membership application, Serbia wouldn't be considered a country today and just be a disputed territory?
Also Belarus and Ukraine were UN members from 1945-91 without being a "legitimate and sovereign country".
pre 11 godina
Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
So far I thought you were a real Serb patriot, but the above is a traitorous statement. No Serb patriot would ever say that Serbia was not a legitimate country until 1945 !!!
pre 11 godina
Let's be honest and say that Albanians serve to USA so that America can be closer to Russia.Second thing there are so many roads going from Kosovo(roads build by America) where you can see daily transportation of natural resources from this territory.What will happen when they collect all,are they going to still need Albanians ..I don't think so ,that is why they still have "asterisk" just reminder to who they belong,only what they can hope to is to get some nice rezervat.
pre 11 godina
Serbia has totally embraced the independence of Kosovo with this border crossing where customs will be collected. It's an international border. So there are no state symbols of Kosovo, there are no state symbols of Serbia either. There are symbols of eu and that doesn't exist in other countries but because Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence it exists between Kosovo and Serbia because Dacic and nikolic have embraced Kosovo independence
pre 11 godina
What the IBM stands for? Integraded border management? Why then "translate" it to "integrated management of crossings"? It's allready in English.
pre 11 godina
But can you name me a single country on this planet that is FORBIDDEN to have "state" symbols at their 'border crossings'?? No you cannot. Because currently Kosovo i Metohija has more than autonomy less than independence, which was Vojislav Kostunica's position back in 2004 even.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 13:05)
That's great that even a great Serb patriot live Vojislav endorses the current situation. So we finally have an agreement between Serbs and Albanians. That's very nice.
pre 11 godina
BORDER crossings.
pre 11 godina
The Jarinje checkpoint was opened under the IBM agreement. There are no "state symbols" at the location, said reports.
Why should there state symbols at a provincial border?
pre 11 godina
Can you name a single country on this planet, with similar IBM system between provinces within one country?
(Kosova-USA, 10 December 2012 12:17)
But can you name me a single country on this planet that is FORBIDDEN to have "state" symbols at their 'border crossings'?? No you cannot. Because currently Kosovo i Metohija has more than autonomy less than independence, which was Vojislav Kostunica's position back in 2004 even.
So you can sugar coat it any way you like, but your insecurity is obvious. All those crossings represent is a symbolic representation of what is currently happening in Serbia's Holy Christian province and that is above all else-occupation.
pre 11 godina
@ kosova-usaCan name me an international border anywhere in the world without state symbols present?
pre 11 godina
@Vini,
I don't know if you have ever been to the U.S. but there are welcome signs when crossing from one state into another. So your "welcome to kosovo" sign means nothing in regards to independence.
pre 11 godina
@koso,
You made my point koso. There isn't one, the sign entering KiM should read "welcome to more than autonomy less than independence".
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35)
Nobody is denying there is a occupation in Serbia. The ID's are just evidence of such occupation. But none of that makes you a country. Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory. Kosovo=Palestine, Northern Cyprus, South Ossetia, Abkhazia etcetc.
Sorry :(
pre 11 godina
The Jarinje checkpoint was opened under the IBM agreement. There are no "state symbols" at the location, said reports.
Why should there state symbols at a provincial border?
(Questioner, 10 December 2012 11:01)
Can you name a single country on this planet, with similar IBM system between provinces within one country?
pre 11 godina
It's our own fault.It's Kosovo's and Serbia's. If we continue to let the EU do our "homework" then we both (albanians and serbs) will be doomed in this so called "Administrative border crossing".
Kosovo will not be a country in it's fully and Serbia will be a country without a clear territory.
pre 11 godina
No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35)
From what I understand from you Albanians that live in Detroit and Brooklyn...in America you need an ID too enter a Prison or a Military Base !!! Which one is Kosovo?!?!
pre 11 godina
All this is pointless but anyway it serves well in discriminating each other.
Few decades in the future and all this will be a joke and the very governments will pull them down themselves.
pre 11 godina
Ari Gold
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck: it is a duck. In a neutral territory it has been agreed not to put any state symbols, but soon as you cross those containers you do have a sign wellcoming you to Kosova. Next time you swing by, make sure you carry your passport with you
pre 11 godina
Me don't gets it! If my main man Thaqi claimes Kosovo is independente why it ain't show flagg or state symbols at border? Me thinket Eu made compromize to serbs. Any independent country would insisted on nation flag at crossing. This reminds me when me visit my main homie in prison. My question: is Kosovo a prison?
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border.
Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?
pre 11 godina
Can name me an international border anywhere in the world without state symbols present?
(Robert1899, 10 December 2012 12:52)
YES, I can! Kosovo - Serbia border, currently at two (2) border posts and another four (4) expected to be up and operational before the end of the year.
Tungi,
pre 11 godina
Hmm, it is looking more and more like "more than autonomy, less than independence."
pre 11 godina
There is a border between Kosovo and Serbia. No matter how you call it, it is still a border. Name another country where you need an ID to pass through a specific part of the country?(NIkollë Pjetraj-Kosova, 10 December 2012 15:35) Kosovo is not a recognized independent state. No matter what you call it, it is not a state.
pre 11 godina
Let's be honest and say that Albanians serve to USA so that America can be closer to Russia.Second thing there are so many roads going from Kosovo(roads build by America) where you can see daily transportation of natural resources from this territory.What will happen when they collect all,are they going to still need Albanians ..I don't think so ,that is why they still have "asterisk" just reminder to who they belong,only what they can hope to is to get some nice rezervat.
pre 11 godina
Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
So Serbia/ Yugoslavia wasn't a country between 1991 and 2000? And had the US decided to veto Yugoslavia's UN membership application, Serbia wouldn't be considered a country today and just be a disputed territory?
Also Belarus and Ukraine were UN members from 1945-91 without being a "legitimate and sovereign country".
pre 11 godina
It's been to long to keep blocking each other at these crossing, I think it's a good news to finally start doing something peaceful and good for people living in those areas. I hope there won't be anymore barricades or some other conflicts between Serbs and Albanians. Live in peace with each other and forget stupid nationalism.
pre 11 godina
What the IBM stands for? Integraded border management? Why then "translate" it to "integrated management of crossings"? It's allready in English.
pre 11 godina
BORDER crossings.
pre 11 godina
But can you name me a single country on this planet that is FORBIDDEN to have "state" symbols at their 'border crossings'?? No you cannot. Because currently Kosovo i Metohija has more than autonomy less than independence, which was Vojislav Kostunica's position back in 2004 even.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 13:05)
That's great that even a great Serb patriot live Vojislav endorses the current situation. So we finally have an agreement between Serbs and Albanians. That's very nice.
pre 11 godina
Generally, UN membership decides the difference between a legitimate and sovereign country from a disputed territory.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
So far I thought you were a real Serb patriot, but the above is a traitorous statement. No Serb patriot would ever say that Serbia was not a legitimate country until 1945 !!!
pre 11 godina
Serbia has totally embraced the independence of Kosovo with this border crossing where customs will be collected. It's an international border. So there are no state symbols of Kosovo, there are no state symbols of Serbia either. There are symbols of eu and that doesn't exist in other countries but because Serbia has recognized Kosovo independence it exists between Kosovo and Serbia because Dacic and nikolic have embraced Kosovo independence
pre 11 godina
Nobody is denying there is a occupation in Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 10 December 2012 16:41)
Can you show me where Serbia declared Kosovo as "occupied territory". Georgia did this with Abk. and SO. and even ceased all diplomatic ties with all countries which does not recognize Georgia's borders. Did Serbia did this, even close something like this?
BTW: Today Domenica recognized Kosovo as an independent country, making it number 97 and for the first time more countries recognizes Kosovo than Serbia's claim.
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