“Ethnic Albanians want to expel Serbs from Kosovo”

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.
(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)

No, but the things that happen every day in Kosovo show that its more or less true. Everyone who has eyes to see must agree that the idea of a creating a multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo has miserably failed, and laws and constitution in Kosovo is not worth the paper its written on.

Ian UK

Right so I guess you think he's making it all up, and everything you said iss untrue. Do you honestly believe Serbs live in harmony with albanians? The metroplitan couldn't have put it better, as if you have a clue what you're talking about anyway.

For the Germans, Americans, Brutish & French, Serbs do not have the right to fundamental human rights. The ethnic cleansing of Serbs by their puppets is a sport they wholly approve of.

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.

Peace and compromise can only be achieved in Kosovo i Metohija if a compromise can be reached by agreeing to a shared state with two segregated, independently managed communities throughout the territory. This would also have to include multiple Serbian communities below the Ibar as well as Northern Kosovo operating as a part of the rest of Serbia.

Unfortunately Hilarion Alfeyev is 100% correct and the separatist institutions in Pristina would in fact not only cleanse every last Serb but would remove every Church & Monastery which are the oldest buildings standing on Kosovo i Metohija.

The only compromise in their eyes is for the victim to legitimize ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide and occupation of sovereign territory. This we cannot do, this option before us will be rejected by the Serbian people and if such hatred persists will undoubtedly translate into conflict once again.

Everyone wants to give peace a chance, but if the only other option is wiping Serbia off the map then we simply have no choice but defend ourselves from aggression and ethnic hatred.

It easy to dissmiss his claim as untrue but seeing what happens all over Kosovo daily this is unfortunately reality. Until albanians acknowledge this it will continue to be a problem. Very few serbs have returned and those that do are threatened, beaten, harrased or in worst case killed. Action spead louder then words. What happens in Kosovo today is nothing short of ethnic clensing and wrewriting of history. If albanians truly want to live in peace with its neighbours their middle aged mentality have to change. Unfortunately not enough albanians want to make these changes therefor there will be more conflict and hatered for years to come.

Dear Patriarchate.

There is a verse in your beloved Bible which you may wish to re-visit. Let me assist you in you dear attempt to locate it so that you can reflect on what it means.

Job 4:8

As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same.

Kosova 1999

(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)

I see you don't even try to hide your prejudices against the Serbian people anymore. Also it seems the root of your Serbophobia comes from your fear of the Russians. This is a flawed and outright retarded opinion that somehow Russian people are "the commies" who need to be defeated. The irony behind all this is no two nations have suffered more from communism than Russia and Serbia and our two peoples historically sacrificed a lot for the freedom of Europe.

Your views make no sense and are deranged.

@ God's Work ... There is something terribly wrong with individuals who use Scripture to spread hate. You and Lenard must be related.

and... Ian, UK ... How many times have you visited Kosovo? Your comments remind me of the quote, "arrogance and self-awareness seldom go hand in hand."

What would expect from Russians and Serbs, full on propaganda and they say them every day hoping it will become tru.

Ari

You know this just as well as I do its all made up from your Russian brothers so they can achieve their own personal goals. Russians do not care about Serbia, they never did to begin with for them to care now.
No one fears Russia we all know that. Russians are all talk. That's all and they know how to use Serbians as tools.

What't up with orthodox priests? God for them has become boring, that's why they talk politics daily.

The metropolitan qualified as disturbing the recently announced intent of the management of the Kosovo university in Priština to either bring down or turn into a Kosovo Albanian museum the Church of Christ the Savior, which is located on its territory.

"Church of Christ the Savior" does not preach to build a church on the land belonging to Prishtina University. This was done when Miloshevic ruled with iron fist and did whatever he wanted. Why didn't Miloshevic build one of those so called churches next to it, and/or on top of the building at Serbian parliament?

Albanian

Your comment is amusing considering the nature of the USA which backs Kosovo albanian seperatists. Serbian and Russia share religious and cultural ties, there is a huge amount of solidarity between the people of Russia and Serbia. Do you think that the US cares about albanian people? The US is an imperialist nation, they use and kill people to achieve their aims. So despite the cultural bond Serbs and Russians have you have the audacity to say they Russians don't care about Serbs, if you believe this then you really need to question the albanian relationship with the USA.

Halarion's comments are 100% accurate, but nobody in the west really cares. Since 1999, the US, Britain & Germany have turned a blind eye to the brutality perpetrated against the Serbs. For any of them to admit that the Serbs have been, and continue to be victimized would be an admission of failure. Beginning in Croatia, then Bosnia and finally Kosovo, NATO and the western powers intervened ostensibly to preserve the multi-ethnic fabric of these lands and ensure safety and human rights for all. A look at recent history proves this to be an utter and complete failure. Croatia is nearly 100% inhabited by Croats while no one has been held accountable for the killing and exile of the sizable Serbian population who had lived there for centuries. In Bosnia & Hercegovinia Serbs, Croats & Muslims live in a dysfunctional state with a hatred toward each other that dispells any notion that these people can live together anytime soon as the west had intended. And finally Kosovo where crimes against Serbs continue to this day while the west praises the Kosovo Albanian authorities on the progress they are making. If there is one thing that the west has guaranteed with their irresponsible actions in the former Yugoslavia, it is that there will be a continued hatred between these peoples and another armed conflict is not far off. When this happens, the US & friends will be reluctant to get involved again and these newly created entities will have to fend for themselves. GOOD LUCK!

Job 4:8
As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same.
Kosova 1999
(God's Work, 9 December 2012 12:10)
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Absolutely, but this does not apply to Serbs only. NATO and K*-Albanians will be reaping what they sowed also.

"The Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija live in an unpredictable and very hostile environment, in constant threat of robbery and beating, in the fear of losing their connection with central Serbia," the metropolitan said.

The metropolitan is certainly correct considering the barricades that continue to be erected in the roads between North Kosovo and Serbia making connection of Kosovo Serbs with Serbia difficult, if not impossible.

This is the work of the Evil Empire. As a nation founded on Christianity and Christian values, the Empire betrayed its belief and chose to appease islam for the sake of better relations with other moslem countries, all at the expense of Serbs. Every empire rises and falls, it's just a natural course, so will the Evil Empire. Serbs on the other hand are enemies to themselves and can't really blame others. They are not united polititcally and they will sell each other out at a blink of an eye. Look at Palestine, they are nothing in comparison to Israel, yet they are united and determined to keep what's theirs. The Serbs might learn something from them.

during WW2 with the italians and then with the communists Albanians were allowed to populate serbian lands in the name of 'brotherhood and unity' at the expense to serbian orthodox ecclesiastic lands. These lands were confiscated by the zi-ommunists, and today the illegal occupation continues with foreign settlers. The albanians and their 500years of ottoman support ended in 1912, and today quick as it started the western support will dwindle. You may then regret your actions.

If there is one thing that the west has guaranteed with their irresponsible actions in the former Yugoslavia, it is that there will be a continued hatred between these peoples and another armed conflict is not far off. When this happens, the US & friends will be reluctant to get involved again and these newly created entities will have to fend for themselves. GOOD LUCK!
(njegos, 9 December 2012 17:30)

Njegos,

Milosevic, like you, also thought the West would not act to stop Serbia from brutalizing her neighbors. You, also, will be sadly mistaken if Serbia has not learned from its past aggressions. Just take a walk around Belgrade and pay special attention to the building that once housed MUP headquarters and Sloba's former home in Dedinje, what's left of them. However, next time the job will be accomplished with armed drones. Just a friendly reminder.

If albanians truly want to live in peace with its neighbours their middle aged mentality have to change.
(MikeC, 9 December 2012 14:18)

I guess you are suggesting that instead of THEIR middle aged mentality they should adopt Serbia's middle aged mentality and start celebrating defeats from the XIV century :)

@Tom King
Anyone who is mentioning Serbian ppl as killers or aggressor should look for the documentary movie "Srebrenica A Town Betrayed", "Sarajevo Ricochet". Both movies are done by Norwegian journalists and facts there are matching what General McKenzie was saying. Also you should check "Weight of chain" and "Kosovo: Can You Imagine?" a documentary films by Canadian filmmaker Boris Malagurski.
I think that time of easily brainwashed ppl has passed, face the truth!

This is funny lol ohh wait is he from Russia nvm then he is not worth it, no one cares what you say metropolititaan only Serbs do if it makes them happy lol

well I guess karma is getting the Serbs good :))). I love it

once again ICJ shows how little he understands of the things he´s writing about.

not only has he demonstrated his complete lack of comprehension in regard to the socalled ICJ-"verdict" ( which was only a legal opinion, actually ), but he also doesn´t realize that he´s totally clueless about historical event.

my der icj, you as an Albanian can´t know that, but rest assured, the Serbs do not "celebrate a defeat", they are honiring the sacrification, a christian topic in it´s essence.

if you laugh or make jokes about that, you would have to make jokes about MASADA, or the ALAMO too.
even the US-americans with only a little more than 200 years of history have their own culturual "sacrification"-myth...
but what have you got? you´re still killing each other, if you can´t get your bloddy hands on non-albanians, that´s your true nature though.

but, ..I doubt that you have what it takes, to understand that.

since, at the end of the day, you´re just an ignorant Albanian, nothing else. thanks god there are other Albanians who will be much more reasonable, when the time has come to face reality. and that day will come, my dear k-albanian friend.

Hilarion would be hilarious if he weren't so rediculous. So, I think I'll call him rediculon.

Ethnic Albanians want to expel Serbs from Kosovo”

Why is that a problem?

Ethnic Albanians want to expel Serbs from Kosovo”

Why is that a problem?
(Bam Bam, 9 December 2012 23:39)

People without problems in their heads would see that as a problem. But despite it all, its wishful thinking. Albanians don't have the physical capacity to do that to the Serbs as they tried in July 2011 in Mitrovica to impose their will and were DEFEATED. Sent back like cowards to their drug induced Islamist stronghold.

Presevo, Macedonia, Mitrovica-wherever the West is not involved, YOU LOSE!

Ethnic Albanians want to expel Serbs from Kosovo”

Why is that a problem?
(Bam Bam, 9 December 2012 23:39)

Well Bam Bam, if you want a democracy, it is a big problem. If you don't want democracy, if you don't want peace and if you want a racist apartheid state, then it is no problem at all.

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.
(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)
It is true, but not because he said it, it is just true.

Pasha in Kreml play little game of politic on Balkan.
But, he know that better not to send Russian soldier to Kosova.
So, use South Stream proxy sub-station Serbia to advance politic game.

Then explain why Kosovo is the most ethnically pure state in all of Europe?

Waite second to Greece!

Actually Greece killed, expelled, or assimulated the slavs of northern Greece..

Do the Math Ian.. just do it, don't be a afraid to reveal the truth..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 10 December 2012 04:12)

Because when Serbia took Kosovo from the Ottoman Empire in 1912 before intergrating it into Yugoslavia in 1918, Serbia's own sources show that Serbs/ Bosniaks/ Montenegrins ect composed a very maximum of 20-25% of Kosovo's population.

Then from the 70s up until 1991, Serbs/ Montenegrins ect started to leave Kosovo and settle else where in Yugoslavia for a better life due Kosovo been economically deprived and less economically developed. Going from 228,264 (18.4%) Serbs in 1971 to 194,190 (10%) Serbs in 1991; in the meantime the Albanian population grew. Milosevic would later on then use these Serbs who left Kosovo during this period in his figures for the ammount of Serbs he claimed were ethnically cleansed form Kosovo, despite it being their own choice to leave Kosovo. Then in the 1990s and during the Kosovo War the majority of people in Kosovo became displaced. However the 1995 Official Yugoslav statistical results for Kosovo pretty much mirror todays ethnic composition of Kosovo percentage wise.

Also Poland is very ethnically pure European state with 96.5% claiming to be ethnic Poles and 97.5% of Hungary claim to be ethnic Hungarians.

my der icj, you as an Albanian can´t know that, but rest assured, the Serbs do not "celebrate a defeat", they are honiring the sacrification, a christian topic in it´s essence.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Sure, the sacrification for a defeat. Thanks for confirming.
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Jovan,
This answer by icj shows the level of simplicity he/she has going for him/her.
This person doesn't know the difference between honouring someone's sacrifice and celebrating an event.

I would advise you not to argue with an idiot because when you argue with an idiot, people might not be able to distinguish which one is the idiot.
I tried to point a few obvious flaws in icj's argument but had to stop because it was getting to the point where people might mistake me for a fool because it looked like I was arguing with a fool.

Let's all just live icj alone and stop acknowledging the stupidity.

"The Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija live in an unpredictable and very hostile environment, in constant threat of robbery and beating, in the fear of losing their connection with central Serbia," the metropolitan said.

The metropolitan is certainly correct considering the barricades that continue to be erected in the roads between North Kosovo and Serbia making connection of Kosovo Serbs with Serbia difficult, if not impossible.
(icj1, 9 December 2012 13:18)

Stupid joke repeated so many times becomes spam.

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.
(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)

Then explain why Kosovo is the most ethnically pure state in all of Europe?

Waite second to Greece!

Actually Greece killed, expelled, or assimulated the slavs of northern Greece..

Do the Math Ian.. just do it, don't be a afraid to reveal the truth..

Do they distribute Rolex watches to these priests in the afterlife or is that a luxury to be enjoyed only on earth? Or they give them in heave but we don't know cause they photoshop them out. Any reflective desks there?

(Ari Gold, 9 December 2012 13:57)

I'm not prejudice towards the Serbian people and I'm not Serbophobic either. I just disagree with the Serbian state on some political issues. I have nothing against the Serbian people.

And I don't fear the Russians either, quite the opposite to tell the truth; I consider myself a Russophile but I just disagree with Putin and co politically. I don't think that Russian are "commies". Communists are atheists and Alfeyev is quite clearly a Christian.

Also Russia and Serbia never experienced "Communism" and never claimed to be Communist either, they were socialist and claimed to be working towards Communism only. Also under Communism there isn't a state just a social commune, hence the name "Communism".

According to Marx, Communism would occur when the Working Classes revolt against the Bourgeoisie. And the Bourgeoisie would overthrow the Imperialists. That never happened in Yugoslavia and the Bourgeoisie provisionally ruled Russia for 5 minutes in 1917. There was no populist revolution of the working classes in Russia, only a Coup d'état led by Lenin, Trotsky and the rest of the Bolsheviks; when Russia was still a peasant nation which hadn't experienced Capitalism. It is ludicrous to suggest that Russia was Communist. Same with Yugoslavia.

And yes Russia and Serbia have liberated many occupied people across Europe, but in the process they have forcibly ruled over many other people across Europe. But then again so has the UK/ England.

He is quite right about the situation in Kosovo regarding the Kosovo Serbs, and the dire situation with Orthodox churches.

If he had made the visit in the 90es he would have seen dire situation of Albanians.

He should know that It was a civil war happening in Kosovo, not a bloody wedding, and some real horrible things happen there.

There are a lot of historical places that have been neglected in Kosovo including the churches and mosques. It takes money to maintain them and people never really cared much about them because they had no money and were busy hating themselfs.

I think that time of easily brainwashed ppl has passed, face the truth!
(Johny, 10 December 2012 09:44)

Always funny when some people refer to some singular films or websites when talking about 'the truth'.

P.S: Did you watch the great film about the lunar landing hoax? It clearly proves 100% that there has been no human on the moon :)

not only has he demonstrated his complete lack of comprehension in regard to the socalled ICJ-"verdict" ( which was only a legal opinion, actually ), but he also doesn´t realize that he´s totally clueless about historical event.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Oh, you finally got it that is an “opinion” and not “verdict”. Great, you are starting to make some progress :). The only thing that I understand from the opinion that Vuk fought tirelessly for is that the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law. I think we both understand it that way.
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my der icj, you as an Albanian can´t know that, but rest assured, the Serbs do not "celebrate a defeat", they are honiring the sacrification, a christian topic in it´s essence.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Sure, the sacrification for a defeat. Thanks for confirming.
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since, at the end of the day, you´re just an ignorant Albanian, nothing else.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

I guess I’m in good company with you then since we’re agreeing LOL
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thanks god there are other Albanians who will be much more reasonable, when the time has come to face reality. and that day will come, my dear k-albanian friend.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Sure, we’ll be in paradise or hell (depending on how Mr. Gavrilovic decides) at that time… Let me know then and we can celebrate it together :)

Weight of chains should be used to get to the real sources of information like Michael Parenti, not taken as straight fact. That and it is basically an attempt to carbon copy Michael Moore's style of commentary. Michael Parenti's full lecture is on YouTube for free, just skip the first 20m of ranting about corporations and such.

I tried to point a few obvious flaws in icj's argument but had to stop because it was getting to the point where people might mistake me for a fool because it looked like I was arguing with a fool.
(Peggy, 10 December 2012 20:45)

But at the end, dear, we agreed together that Serbs were not the first thing in Kosovo, so there was nothing for people to mistake LOL

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.

Dear Patriarchate.

There is a verse in your beloved Bible which you may wish to re-visit. Let me assist you in you dear attempt to locate it so that you can reflect on what it means.

Job 4:8

As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same.

Kosova 1999

What would expect from Russians and Serbs, full on propaganda and they say them every day hoping it will become tru.

Ari

You know this just as well as I do its all made up from your Russian brothers so they can achieve their own personal goals. Russians do not care about Serbia, they never did to begin with for them to care now.
No one fears Russia we all know that. Russians are all talk. That's all and they know how to use Serbians as tools.

@ God's Work ... There is something terribly wrong with individuals who use Scripture to spread hate. You and Lenard must be related.

and... Ian, UK ... How many times have you visited Kosovo? Your comments remind me of the quote, "arrogance and self-awareness seldom go hand in hand."

Peace and compromise can only be achieved in Kosovo i Metohija if a compromise can be reached by agreeing to a shared state with two segregated, independently managed communities throughout the territory. This would also have to include multiple Serbian communities below the Ibar as well as Northern Kosovo operating as a part of the rest of Serbia.

Unfortunately Hilarion Alfeyev is 100% correct and the separatist institutions in Pristina would in fact not only cleanse every last Serb but would remove every Church & Monastery which are the oldest buildings standing on Kosovo i Metohija.

The only compromise in their eyes is for the victim to legitimize ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide and occupation of sovereign territory. This we cannot do, this option before us will be rejected by the Serbian people and if such hatred persists will undoubtedly translate into conflict once again.

Everyone wants to give peace a chance, but if the only other option is wiping Serbia off the map then we simply have no choice but defend ourselves from aggression and ethnic hatred.

Ethnic Albanians want to expel Serbs from Kosovo”

Why is that a problem?

This is funny lol ohh wait is he from Russia nvm then he is not worth it, no one cares what you say metropolititaan only Serbs do if it makes them happy lol

well I guess karma is getting the Serbs good :))). I love it

(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)

I see you don't even try to hide your prejudices against the Serbian people anymore. Also it seems the root of your Serbophobia comes from your fear of the Russians. This is a flawed and outright retarded opinion that somehow Russian people are "the commies" who need to be defeated. The irony behind all this is no two nations have suffered more from communism than Russia and Serbia and our two peoples historically sacrificed a lot for the freedom of Europe.

Your views make no sense and are deranged.

What't up with orthodox priests? God for them has become boring, that's why they talk politics daily.

The metropolitan qualified as disturbing the recently announced intent of the management of the Kosovo university in Priština to either bring down or turn into a Kosovo Albanian museum the Church of Christ the Savior, which is located on its territory.

"Church of Christ the Savior" does not preach to build a church on the land belonging to Prishtina University. This was done when Miloshevic ruled with iron fist and did whatever he wanted. Why didn't Miloshevic build one of those so called churches next to it, and/or on top of the building at Serbian parliament?

If albanians truly want to live in peace with its neighbours their middle aged mentality have to change.
(MikeC, 9 December 2012 14:18)

I guess you are suggesting that instead of THEIR middle aged mentality they should adopt Serbia's middle aged mentality and start celebrating defeats from the XIV century :)

For the Germans, Americans, Brutish & French, Serbs do not have the right to fundamental human rights. The ethnic cleansing of Serbs by their puppets is a sport they wholly approve of.

Ian UK

Right so I guess you think he's making it all up, and everything you said iss untrue. Do you honestly believe Serbs live in harmony with albanians? The metroplitan couldn't have put it better, as if you have a clue what you're talking about anyway.

"The Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija live in an unpredictable and very hostile environment, in constant threat of robbery and beating, in the fear of losing their connection with central Serbia," the metropolitan said.

The metropolitan is certainly correct considering the barricades that continue to be erected in the roads between North Kosovo and Serbia making connection of Kosovo Serbs with Serbia difficult, if not impossible.

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.
(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)

No, but the things that happen every day in Kosovo show that its more or less true. Everyone who has eyes to see must agree that the idea of a creating a multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo has miserably failed, and laws and constitution in Kosovo is not worth the paper its written on.

It easy to dissmiss his claim as untrue but seeing what happens all over Kosovo daily this is unfortunately reality. Until albanians acknowledge this it will continue to be a problem. Very few serbs have returned and those that do are threatened, beaten, harrased or in worst case killed. Action spead louder then words. What happens in Kosovo today is nothing short of ethnic clensing and wrewriting of history. If albanians truly want to live in peace with its neighbours their middle aged mentality have to change. Unfortunately not enough albanians want to make these changes therefor there will be more conflict and hatered for years to come.

Albanian

Your comment is amusing considering the nature of the USA which backs Kosovo albanian seperatists. Serbian and Russia share religious and cultural ties, there is a huge amount of solidarity between the people of Russia and Serbia. Do you think that the US cares about albanian people? The US is an imperialist nation, they use and kill people to achieve their aims. So despite the cultural bond Serbs and Russians have you have the audacity to say they Russians don't care about Serbs, if you believe this then you really need to question the albanian relationship with the USA.

Halarion's comments are 100% accurate, but nobody in the west really cares. Since 1999, the US, Britain & Germany have turned a blind eye to the brutality perpetrated against the Serbs. For any of them to admit that the Serbs have been, and continue to be victimized would be an admission of failure. Beginning in Croatia, then Bosnia and finally Kosovo, NATO and the western powers intervened ostensibly to preserve the multi-ethnic fabric of these lands and ensure safety and human rights for all. A look at recent history proves this to be an utter and complete failure. Croatia is nearly 100% inhabited by Croats while no one has been held accountable for the killing and exile of the sizable Serbian population who had lived there for centuries. In Bosnia & Hercegovinia Serbs, Croats & Muslims live in a dysfunctional state with a hatred toward each other that dispells any notion that these people can live together anytime soon as the west had intended. And finally Kosovo where crimes against Serbs continue to this day while the west praises the Kosovo Albanian authorities on the progress they are making. If there is one thing that the west has guaranteed with their irresponsible actions in the former Yugoslavia, it is that there will be a continued hatred between these peoples and another armed conflict is not far off. When this happens, the US & friends will be reluctant to get involved again and these newly created entities will have to fend for themselves. GOOD LUCK!

Then explain why Kosovo is the most ethnically pure state in all of Europe?

Waite second to Greece!

Actually Greece killed, expelled, or assimulated the slavs of northern Greece..

Do the Math Ian.. just do it, don't be a afraid to reveal the truth..
(Bulgar of Ohrid, 10 December 2012 04:12)

Because when Serbia took Kosovo from the Ottoman Empire in 1912 before intergrating it into Yugoslavia in 1918, Serbia's own sources show that Serbs/ Bosniaks/ Montenegrins ect composed a very maximum of 20-25% of Kosovo's population.

Then from the 70s up until 1991, Serbs/ Montenegrins ect started to leave Kosovo and settle else where in Yugoslavia for a better life due Kosovo been economically deprived and less economically developed. Going from 228,264 (18.4%) Serbs in 1971 to 194,190 (10%) Serbs in 1991; in the meantime the Albanian population grew. Milosevic would later on then use these Serbs who left Kosovo during this period in his figures for the ammount of Serbs he claimed were ethnically cleansed form Kosovo, despite it being their own choice to leave Kosovo. Then in the 1990s and during the Kosovo War the majority of people in Kosovo became displaced. However the 1995 Official Yugoslav statistical results for Kosovo pretty much mirror todays ethnic composition of Kosovo percentage wise.

Also Poland is very ethnically pure European state with 96.5% claiming to be ethnic Poles and 97.5% of Hungary claim to be ethnic Hungarians.

Job 4:8
As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same.
Kosova 1999
(God's Work, 9 December 2012 12:10)
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Absolutely, but this does not apply to Serbs only. NATO and K*-Albanians will be reaping what they sowed also.

my der icj, you as an Albanian can´t know that, but rest assured, the Serbs do not "celebrate a defeat", they are honiring the sacrification, a christian topic in it´s essence.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Sure, the sacrification for a defeat. Thanks for confirming.
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Jovan,
This answer by icj shows the level of simplicity he/she has going for him/her.
This person doesn't know the difference between honouring someone's sacrifice and celebrating an event.

I would advise you not to argue with an idiot because when you argue with an idiot, people might not be able to distinguish which one is the idiot.
I tried to point a few obvious flaws in icj's argument but had to stop because it was getting to the point where people might mistake me for a fool because it looked like I was arguing with a fool.

Let's all just live icj alone and stop acknowledging the stupidity.

If there is one thing that the west has guaranteed with their irresponsible actions in the former Yugoslavia, it is that there will be a continued hatred between these peoples and another armed conflict is not far off. When this happens, the US & friends will be reluctant to get involved again and these newly created entities will have to fend for themselves. GOOD LUCK!
(njegos, 9 December 2012 17:30)

Njegos,

Milosevic, like you, also thought the West would not act to stop Serbia from brutalizing her neighbors. You, also, will be sadly mistaken if Serbia has not learned from its past aggressions. Just take a walk around Belgrade and pay special attention to the building that once housed MUP headquarters and Sloba's former home in Dedinje, what's left of them. However, next time the job will be accomplished with armed drones. Just a friendly reminder.

This is the work of the Evil Empire. As a nation founded on Christianity and Christian values, the Empire betrayed its belief and chose to appease islam for the sake of better relations with other moslem countries, all at the expense of Serbs. Every empire rises and falls, it's just a natural course, so will the Evil Empire. Serbs on the other hand are enemies to themselves and can't really blame others. They are not united polititcally and they will sell each other out at a blink of an eye. Look at Palestine, they are nothing in comparison to Israel, yet they are united and determined to keep what's theirs. The Serbs might learn something from them.

once again ICJ shows how little he understands of the things he´s writing about.

not only has he demonstrated his complete lack of comprehension in regard to the socalled ICJ-"verdict" ( which was only a legal opinion, actually ), but he also doesn´t realize that he´s totally clueless about historical event.

my der icj, you as an Albanian can´t know that, but rest assured, the Serbs do not "celebrate a defeat", they are honiring the sacrification, a christian topic in it´s essence.

if you laugh or make jokes about that, you would have to make jokes about MASADA, or the ALAMO too.
even the US-americans with only a little more than 200 years of history have their own culturual "sacrification"-myth...
but what have you got? you´re still killing each other, if you can´t get your bloddy hands on non-albanians, that´s your true nature though.

but, ..I doubt that you have what it takes, to understand that.

since, at the end of the day, you´re just an ignorant Albanian, nothing else. thanks god there are other Albanians who will be much more reasonable, when the time has come to face reality. and that day will come, my dear k-albanian friend.

Pasha in Kreml play little game of politic on Balkan.
But, he know that better not to send Russian soldier to Kosova.
So, use South Stream proxy sub-station Serbia to advance politic game.

during WW2 with the italians and then with the communists Albanians were allowed to populate serbian lands in the name of 'brotherhood and unity' at the expense to serbian orthodox ecclesiastic lands. These lands were confiscated by the zi-ommunists, and today the illegal occupation continues with foreign settlers. The albanians and their 500years of ottoman support ended in 1912, and today quick as it started the western support will dwindle. You may then regret your actions.

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.
(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)
It is true, but not because he said it, it is just true.

Hilarion would be hilarious if he weren't so rediculous. So, I think I'll call him rediculon.

not only has he demonstrated his complete lack of comprehension in regard to the socalled ICJ-"verdict" ( which was only a legal opinion, actually ), but he also doesn´t realize that he´s totally clueless about historical event.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Oh, you finally got it that is an “opinion” and not “verdict”. Great, you are starting to make some progress :). The only thing that I understand from the opinion that Vuk fought tirelessly for is that the declaration of independence of Kosovo adopted on 17 February 2008 did not violate international law. I think we both understand it that way.
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my der icj, you as an Albanian can´t know that, but rest assured, the Serbs do not "celebrate a defeat", they are honiring the sacrification, a christian topic in it´s essence.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Sure, the sacrification for a defeat. Thanks for confirming.
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since, at the end of the day, you´re just an ignorant Albanian, nothing else.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

I guess I’m in good company with you then since we’re agreeing LOL
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thanks god there are other Albanians who will be much more reasonable, when the time has come to face reality. and that day will come, my dear k-albanian friend.
(Jovan, 9 December 2012 20:12)

Sure, we’ll be in paradise or hell (depending on how Mr. Gavrilovic decides) at that time… Let me know then and we can celebrate it together :)

@Tom King
Anyone who is mentioning Serbian ppl as killers or aggressor should look for the documentary movie "Srebrenica A Town Betrayed", "Sarajevo Ricochet". Both movies are done by Norwegian journalists and facts there are matching what General McKenzie was saying. Also you should check "Weight of chain" and "Kosovo: Can You Imagine?" a documentary films by Canadian filmmaker Boris Malagurski.
I think that time of easily brainwashed ppl has passed, face the truth!

(Ari Gold, 9 December 2012 13:57)

I'm not prejudice towards the Serbian people and I'm not Serbophobic either. I just disagree with the Serbian state on some political issues. I have nothing against the Serbian people.

And I don't fear the Russians either, quite the opposite to tell the truth; I consider myself a Russophile but I just disagree with Putin and co politically. I don't think that Russian are "commies". Communists are atheists and Alfeyev is quite clearly a Christian.

Also Russia and Serbia never experienced "Communism" and never claimed to be Communist either, they were socialist and claimed to be working towards Communism only. Also under Communism there isn't a state just a social commune, hence the name "Communism".

According to Marx, Communism would occur when the Working Classes revolt against the Bourgeoisie. And the Bourgeoisie would overthrow the Imperialists. That never happened in Yugoslavia and the Bourgeoisie provisionally ruled Russia for 5 minutes in 1917. There was no populist revolution of the working classes in Russia, only a Coup d'état led by Lenin, Trotsky and the rest of the Bolsheviks; when Russia was still a peasant nation which hadn't experienced Capitalism. It is ludicrous to suggest that Russia was Communist. Same with Yugoslavia.

And yes Russia and Serbia have liberated many occupied people across Europe, but in the process they have forcibly ruled over many other people across Europe. But then again so has the UK/ England.

Ethnic Albanians want to expel Serbs from Kosovo”

Why is that a problem?
(Bam Bam, 9 December 2012 23:39)

People without problems in their heads would see that as a problem. But despite it all, its wishful thinking. Albanians don't have the physical capacity to do that to the Serbs as they tried in July 2011 in Mitrovica to impose their will and were DEFEATED. Sent back like cowards to their drug induced Islamist stronghold.

Presevo, Macedonia, Mitrovica-wherever the West is not involved, YOU LOSE!

He is quite right about the situation in Kosovo regarding the Kosovo Serbs, and the dire situation with Orthodox churches.

If he had made the visit in the 90es he would have seen dire situation of Albanians.

He should know that It was a civil war happening in Kosovo, not a bloody wedding, and some real horrible things happen there.

There are a lot of historical places that have been neglected in Kosovo including the churches and mosques. It takes money to maintain them and people never really cared much about them because they had no money and were busy hating themselfs.

"The Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija live in an unpredictable and very hostile environment, in constant threat of robbery and beating, in the fear of losing their connection with central Serbia," the metropolitan said.

The metropolitan is certainly correct considering the barricades that continue to be erected in the roads between North Kosovo and Serbia making connection of Kosovo Serbs with Serbia difficult, if not impossible.
(icj1, 9 December 2012 13:18)

Stupid joke repeated so many times becomes spam.

Ethnic Albanians want to expel Serbs from Kosovo”

Why is that a problem?
(Bam Bam, 9 December 2012 23:39)

Well Bam Bam, if you want a democracy, it is a big problem. If you don't want democracy, if you don't want peace and if you want a racist apartheid state, then it is no problem at all.

"This is according to Department of External Church Relations the Patriarchate of Moscow Chairman Hilarion Alfeyev."Well if he said it, it must be true.
(Ian, UK, 9 December 2012 12:07)

Then explain why Kosovo is the most ethnically pure state in all of Europe?

Waite second to Greece!

Actually Greece killed, expelled, or assimulated the slavs of northern Greece..

Do the Math Ian.. just do it, don't be a afraid to reveal the truth..

I think that time of easily brainwashed ppl has passed, face the truth!
(Johny, 10 December 2012 09:44)

Always funny when some people refer to some singular films or websites when talking about 'the truth'.

P.S: Did you watch the great film about the lunar landing hoax? It clearly proves 100% that there has been no human on the moon :)

Do they distribute Rolex watches to these priests in the afterlife or is that a luxury to be enjoyed only on earth? Or they give them in heave but we don't know cause they photoshop them out. Any reflective desks there?

Weight of chains should be used to get to the real sources of information like Michael Parenti, not taken as straight fact. That and it is basically an attempt to carbon copy Michael Moore's style of commentary. Michael Parenti's full lecture is on YouTube for free, just skip the first 20m of ranting about corporations and such.

I tried to point a few obvious flaws in icj's argument but had to stop because it was getting to the point where people might mistake me for a fool because it looked like I was arguing with a fool.
(Peggy, 10 December 2012 20:45)

But at the end, dear, we agreed together that Serbs were not the first thing in Kosovo, so there was nothing for people to mistake LOL