Belgrade wants Serbs to be given customs money

Ridiculous!

The money made from goods and transport entering Kosovo should be spent on all the people of Kosovo, not just Serbs; especially as a big chunk of Serbs in the North reject Kosovo's institutions. Serbia administrates the North the money Serbia makes from goods and transport leaving Kosovo and entering Serbia can go on the Serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Besides if Kosovo were to give it's money to Serbs in the north, the criminal gangs in the north would sypher off the money into their personal bank accounts to finance further criminal activity.

@AriGold
Well how would you know if there are any Serbs on Albanian forums UNLESS you saw that yourself? Are you stalking Albanian forums lol? I mean how would you know if there are Serbs commenting on Albanian forums if you never visited one? Now you're worried about KLA violence against Serbs? If KLA wanted to clean up Kosova of whatever 5% left of Serbs in Kosov they could get it done in a day. Just like Haradinaj did clean up Kosova of every Serb that committed crimes in Kosova. Yet you guys wanted to complain about how he is a terrorist and on and on. The world has not forgotten your barbaric crimes against BIH KOS CRT. Justice have been Served for Haradinaj Gotovina and Oric. Where were you Serbs prior to killing all the Croatians Bosnians and Albanians? You should of thought about the outcome then and not now. You guys are 20+ years late. Obviously it's hard to catch up for you guys considering the fact that you're still living the years of 90's. The former Hague prosecutor Carla will be tried for her fabricated stories against Haradinaj, she will have to rat on you Serbs as well. Your Hero Marty will also have to stop lying pretty soon. As soon as you Serbs stop bribing them, stop spending the very last few dinars you've got left. You should of spent that money on your own people who are suffering. At this point Serbia is just as broke as Kosova. We all know that it's not a secret I know how you Serbs think of Serbia as if it is Luxembourg or something but it isn't.

Ari Gold,
This is not a Serbian forum. If so, it would not take place in English but in Serbian language. Stop trying to impede the free speech. If you talk the world in English, it will answer you back.

Ari Gold

You being a Serb of course that would benefit you Serbs, but that is not going to happen. Your dreams are beyond wildest dreams anyone could ever dream. Serbs will have to adjust to Kosova's institutions or they can simply move to Serbia where they actually belong. Dacic will agree with whatever EU proposes him that is a guarantee. I know he was one of your hero's just months ago before elections were taking place in Serbia where Dacic started arresting innocent Albanians, he knew what Serbs like you wanted to see and hear. Now that he is a prime minister and had been bought out for sure he will do whatever he is told, yet give twisted speeches in Belgrade. I thought you guys were aiming for all of Kosova not just north.
Weren't you the one who kept babbling about how Serbia should liberate Kosova from so called temporary occupation of the west? Do you have any idea how many times you wrote that same sentence?
Hahaha you're a complete joke.

(Albanian, 3 December 2012 12:10)

Hey Albanian, nice to see you on a Serbian forum, because that is of course where you are from after all isn't it?

Anyway before we begin, Dacic was NEVER my hero. He is a socialist and most specific a Titoist so therefore it is impossible for him to be my hero. Talk about dreams.

You mention "Kosovo institutions" that the Serbs will have to somehow adjust to, but what institutions do you speak of? The only institutions I see in Kosovo i Metohija are the ones that are Serbian, Western and Albanian ones that only survive by generous humanitarian donations by Western NGO's that take it upon themselves to prop up your joke of a "government" in order to make it seem like its something legitimate. We both know its not or otherwise you wouldn't be here on B92 would you?

Of course Kosovo i Metohija is occupied and of course liberation is inevitable because the fact remains, despite all the BS that you try to throw at your fellow Serbian citizens, your institutions CANNOT and will not survive without outside funding. Kosovo i Metohija receives no investments worth noting, both Serbs and Albanians are living in dire conditions (its just Serbs have to worry about ethnically motivated violence) and the billions the KLA has received to ultimately be given to better the lives of the Albanians has went deep into their own pockets.

My friend, you here are the joke. I don't see Serbs on Albanian forums after all ;) ;)

(Simot, 3 December 2012 13:33)

The Serbs survival in the North is not under threat, that is a myth. You're the one drenched in Popoganda. Whenever Pristina's authorities go to the North, they're the ones at risk not the Serbs.

Northern Kosovo isn't properly intergrated into either Serbia or Kosovo and has thus become a safe haven for criminal activity. Even B92 have done documentries on this and how they abuse public money. I'm not making it up.

Pristina doesn't run the North, so whatever happens in the north cannot be blamed on Pristina because they are unable to exercise any power or authority there.

Also I don't think "serbs are criminals and monsters", only a very small minority are (as are people from all ethnic groups); this is why I would never brand or label an entire ethnic group as it is unfair to brand a whole ethnic group based on the actions of a very small minority of people.

And yes you're using that old silly tactic that I must be an Albanian for supporting Kosovo. Well I've heard it all before. I think you'll be suprised how many people in the West support Kosovo. Of course the vast majority of people in the West don't care about the Balkans, never mind Kosovo and Serbia. If you want to pretend I'm Albanian, then that is fine by me; I don't care in the slightest what you think.

Man, you don't even try to hide your rage do you?

Are you suggesting there are no 'criminal gangs' in Pristina who have NOT received billions billions from Western liberal NGO's?? You are an idiot to even mention criminal gangs in northern Kosovo i Metohija as somehow not being able to hold onto money meanwhile the heroin dealers and organ extractors in Pristina somehow can??

Seek help my friend. And a hobby too!
(Ari Gold, 3 December 2012 14:24)

What rage?

Yes crime happens in Pristina too. I don't deny that.

Even B92 did a documentry recently how crimal gangs in Northern Kosovo abuse public money.

I obviously have the same hobby as you, blogging on B92 ;)

Though I do not trust Belgrade authorities, if this does in fact happen then it would benefit the Serbs in northern Kosovo i Metohija. In fact, this is a form of economic decentralization where the money does not stay in the capital (Belgrade) and communities make use of whatever money is created in their region.

This should be the case for all other Serbian regions-Srem, Banat, Sumadija and the rest. Economic decentralization is the way to go!

Nice to see Serbia is beginning to take that path, even if it is with the Titoists who I don't trust.

Besides if Kosovo were to give it's money to Serbs in the north, the criminal gangs in the north would sypher off the money into their personal bank accounts to finance further criminal activity.
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 12:36)

Man, you don't even try to hide your rage do you?

Are you suggesting there are no 'criminal gangs' in Pristina who have NOT received billions billions from Western liberal NGO's?? You are an idiot to even mention criminal gangs in northern Kosovo i Metohija as somehow not being able to hold onto money meanwhile the heroin dealers and organ extractors in Pristina somehow can??

Seek help my friend. And a hobby too!

Ridiculous!

The money made from goods and transport entering Kosovo should be spent on all the people of Kosovo, not just Serbs; especially as a big chunk of Serbs in the North reject Kosovo's institutions. Serbia administrates the North the money Serbia makes from goods and transport leaving Kosovo and entering Serbia can go on the Serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Besides if Kosovo were to give it's money to Serbs in the north, the criminal gangs in the north would sypher off the money into their personal bank accounts to finance further criminal activity.
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 12:36)

If you call the struggle to survive against blood thirsty predators that the albanian extremists are a crime than i think you should serve some kind of sentence yourself. What twisted views you have one could only assume you're a secret agent of sorts trying to instigate hate, or somone who is so completely drenched in propaganda that he will likely not even recognise his own mother anymore.

Also its certain your name is not Ian and you are not from the UK. The whole "serbs are criminals and monsters" illusion no longer exists in the UK thanks to the countless of stories that have gone around of their peacekeepers who were in yugoslavia and witnessed how serbs were abused and massacred.

Take off the mask and stop pretending that normal people from the west support albania and their cause.

Belgrad is now learning from new Russian masters.
Say to West, give money to Kosovo local authority.
Then, split money with Kosovo authority.
Politicians like in Kreml get richer with nice Swiss accounts.
People get nothing.

Typical Serbian two face: sell people nationalism, then steal the money.

Ari Gold,
This is not a Serbian forum. If so, it would not take place in English but in Serbian language. Stop trying to impede the free speech. If you talk the world in English, it will answer you back.
(Brandon, 3 December 2012 14:03)

You albanian trolls are here only to intimidate and spew your venom. This is a Serbian forum and let us BS amongst ourselves. If we are incorrect about an issue, let that be our problem. In the mean time, find yourselves an albanian forum and indulge in your own affairs.

I like the idea of negotiating these practical issues. The EU expects that Pristina will just get everything, in there supposed negotiations. Well this is negotiating. Each side makes proposals and they are up for debate.

What rage?

Yes crime happens in Pristina too. I don't deny that.

Even B92 did a documentry recently how crimal gangs in Northern Kosovo abuse public money.

I obviously have the same hobby as you, blogging on B92 ;)
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 15:20)

Fair enough. So why then, if money is left in Northern Kosovo i Metohija that somehow it will end up in criminal elements of society meanwhile if it is first sent to Pristina and then distributed throughout Kosovo i Metohija it will be a more lawful transaction? This is what you were implying, and I exposed you for the troll that you are.

You say Northern Kosovo i Metohija is a hotbed of crime because it is not "integrated into Kosovo or Serbia" but I say Kosovo i Metohija itself is a hotbed of crime because it is not fully integrated into the rest of Serbia, due to the illegal but temporary occupation.

It is not April, isn't it? Are they serious? This is the blueprint for more patriotic pillaging. You just declare items which never have been sold, smuggled in, or whatever a get money back from the Serbian state. Yet, Serbia even recognizes the border, but does not want to speak it out.

So hilarious, but so be it. It is Serbia's money. This can be the least of Kosovo's problem..

Ah, they want more money to play with and organise more crimes. No way.

@Ari Gold, you just being childish, why can we not comment here and where does it say ONLY Serbians can comment?

(Ari Gold, 3 December 2012 15:49)

Are we really having this discussion cos you're really boring me?

Yes there is crime in Kosovo, but there is also crime and corruption in Serbia too and most of the Balkans.

Why would it be more lawful?

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/tvshows.php?yyyy=2012&mm=09&nav_id=82355
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=10&dd=03&nav_id=82472
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=01&nav_id=83437

That is what happens when money is thrown at Northern Kosovo.

And If I had a penny for every time you said "temporary occupation", I'd be a very rich man.

And I love it when people like you use the word "illegal" when referring to Kosovo's independence because the only thing which makes Kosovo's independence illegal is the Serbian Constitution and considering that the referendum on accepting Serbia's Constitution was not even carried out in Kosovo is the biggest joke of all. Who do you think in Kosovo or on the international arena gives a rat's a*** about Serbia's Constitution when it comes to Kosovo? 1244 doesn't say that Kosovo can't become independent and it doesn't say that Kosovo needs Serbia's permission to do so either. All 1244 said was that Kosovo is to remain apart of FR Yugoslavia whilst under UN administration. Yugoslavia no longer exists and Kosovo is no longer under UN administration. So good day.

I'm off to get a hobby!

I think I might try Russian Roulette!

BOOM!

@ Ina UK "I think you'll be suprised how many people in the West support Kosovo"

Good that you still have that mentality, as Bin Laden too was "supported" by the west when he was fighting the Soviets, and look how well that turned out????
That's one thing the "west" Anglo-Brits/Americans will NEVER understand, and alway underestimate the Albanian mentality...keep it up! :)

When will people learn that this not a forum? Its the comments section of B92. You cant start topics, you are not a registered forum member, you are simply a commenter who gives his opinion on current news items. Its in english so it is clearly aimed at international, non-serbian speaking visitors.

As for the article: its kinda ridiculous of Belgrade to ask for something (that they should have thought about and demanded before they blindly agreed to the IBM) and at the same time refuse when the other side asks for something (abolition of illegal structures) in exchange (and in this case the "other side" isnt even Prishtina, its the EU with a known condition for Serbias EU path). I guess we have to wait and see what Hashim, Ivica and Cathy have come up with.

Ataman why are you so upset with Albanians allays? Did one sell you a watch no mechanism inside. You went back then he talked you getting the expensive luxury model that the hands worked. But when you got home the watch stop working you opened it up found wind up rubber band inside.

You albanian trolls are here only to intimidate and spew your venom.
(ivan, 3 December 2012 14:27)

This became a place of collective wind-up contest "A versus S", where "A" has without doubt their ONLY victory ever in a contest. Be it a math olympics, science, sport or art. Ooops, sorry, I am wrong. They have two more victories:

- donkey ride uphill with some Slavonic girl in right hand and her kidney in left hand
- fast donkey ride against Serbian border guards looking for drugs and genuine Bulgarian cigarettes made in China

Enjoy your victories, losers.

@ Ina UK "I think you'll be suprised how many people in the West support Kosovo"
USA it is not Ina_UK but Ian_UK
Yes USA there are many people in the West that supports Kosova, but Ian does it in a cute way --__--.

Ian is not alone. Many British/American personalities have supported Kosova/Albania starting over a 100 years ago or so. Do not forget Woodrow Wilson, Edith Durham, Aubrey Herbert etc.

Albanians like Alqaide? No. Wast majority of Albanians adore the west. o
Openly… hehe…

BOOM!
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 18:29)

lol, boom? Really?

Of course there is corruption in Serbia, we both just agreed that it exists in Kosovo i Metohija so by default that means Serbia is suffering from corruption as well. I am the biggest critic of our authorities unlike primitive Albanians who support known organ extractors, Jihadists, Heroin dealers..people who have harmed Albanians as well as Serbs.

UNMIK is actually still in Kosovo i Metohija but in a smaller role because Serbia's traitorous gov't agreed to it!! This fact alone proves that Serbia's final say on Kosovo i Metohija is what matters the most. The deceleration of independence by the occupying institutions was not illegal as I can declare my 4 bedroom home to be a new kingdom if I like, but doesn't make it fact. This is why UNMIK cannot fully withdraw from Kosovo i Metohija, again unless Serbia allows.

And if I am boring you then go have a debate with some of your countrymen who are now overwhelmingly against EU membership and you, without even knowing why you are for it are increasingly becoming fringe and are considered a lunatic in many circles in UK society.

And did you say that many ordinary Westerners support Kosovo Albanians in their Islamist quest? You really are a moron lol. Most don't even know or care, the ones who do, for the most part, see what Serbia is going through as a pretext for what will happen if the UK continues to keep the door open to uncontrolled immigration.

i love the border between serbia and kosovo...money is going to the kosov institution dacic, you can't decide where it's going sorry to break you the news....just keep worrying about who has a bigger pin LOL

Ivan,
I guess everyone who disagrees with you (even on what forum )is a troll and speews venom. I guess B92 does not share the same opinion. See by talking to yourself you will probably be happy and convinced that you are right, but that does not change the facts.

Enjoy your victories, losers.
(Ataman, 3 December 2012 18:59)

There is almost nothing worse than a bad loser, such as you. At least you removed your mask, showing your Serbian fascist mask, what I suspected anyway.

Northern Kosovo isn't properly intergrated into either Serbia or Kosovo and has thus become a safe haven for criminal activity. Even B92 have done documentries on this and how they abuse public money. I'm not making it up.
(Ian, UK)

Integration into Kosovo* will not help to eliminate criminal activity. Unfortunately you are right that Northern Kosovo isn't integrated into Serbia, but this isn't Northern Kosovo's fault.

I think I might try Russian Roulette!

BOOM!
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 18:29)

Instead of Russian Roulette you should try Russian Rolerto. That way you can go BOOM until you pass out
but still be around the next morning to pursue your other hobbies. :~\

"Islamic Republic of Greater Albania"

when did albania become an Islamic Republic? what the hell are you on about?

Since customs are not going to be paid at the crossing points, but in the southern part of Mitrovica (or Nis/Vranje), what happens to the money is up to Prishtina. Since they're asking Serbia to withdraw the parallel institutions, this customs money can go towards replacing the funding from Serbia for the schools and hospitals in the North. Considering what the Insajder team discovered about what happens to money from Serbia on its way south, this might actually see more cash going to the institutions that provide services to ordinary people rather than the politicians.

(Daniel, 4 December 2012 12:27)

Many of Kosovo's young Muslims drink alcohol, have sex outside marriage, eat pork ect. That is very Islamic of them. Islam is very loosely followed by the young generations.

Saudia Arabia and friends are scared of this type of Islam. They are trying to build more and more mosques to stop this type of Islam speading into the rest of the Islamic world.

Please please please put your money where your mouth is and show me some RELIABLE evidence to suggest that there are "al kaida camps that train terrorists" in Kosovo.

Yes Kosovo's declaration of independence wasn't illegal and yes it wouldn't be illegal for you to declare your parent's 4 bedroom house independent from the US. Of course it was illegal, Kosovo was a part of a sovereign state and due to international law no one can change the borders of a internationally recognized and sovereign state. End of story.
(Daniel, 4 December 2012 15:01)

Well according to the UN and International law re Kosovo's declaration of independence "did not violate general international law".

"due to international law no one can change the borders of a internationally recognized and sovereign state" And who says this exactly? Where is this written? This is according to whom?

Albanians like Alqaide? No. Wast majority of Albanians adore the west. o
Openly… hehe…

Yeah I guess thats why you organize training camps for mujaheedeens in order to make them carry out terrorist acts allower the world. Just beause you love the west right?Well you should know what we in the west hate you. You albanians are nothing but ruthless criminals, drugdealers and murderers. I am a swedish police officer so please dont tell me what kind of people you are, I know already very well.

@Daniel

Well at least we know now where your sick, twisted ideas come from:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1962

A deeply anti-islamic, christian fundamentalist website. Yep...you totally convinced me!

12-14 children? That's inaccurate. It's 30 children per couple. Thats why there are no 1,7 million Albanians living in Kosovo (like the devilish western media wants you to believe) but 10 million Albanians :-)

@Daniel, here is a quote from the same author (Dr. Paul L. William) in the same article ( http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1962 ) he speaks about Al-qaida training camps in Kosovo. He writes:

"...But book-burning is the least of the sins of our new friend and ally. The Kosovars have also sacked churches, raped nuns, and mass-murdered approximately 4,000 Christian Serbs in and around the town of Srebrenica and its adjoining towns and villages (Bratunac, Skelani, Milici, et al) as well as the town of Gorazde..."

So, according to this lunatic, Kosovo-Albanians are responsible for the death of 4,000 Christian Serbs in Srebrenica. Do you think this is accurate Daniel?

He further writes:

"After announcing their independence from Serbia on February 16, thousands of ethnic Albanians (Muslims) took to the streets waving American flags and singing patriotic songs."

Kosovo declared it's independence on February 17, 2008. And why the emphasize on "Muslims"? What is he trying to prove? Because there were also many Albanian Catholics and Orthodox who celebrated and waved the American flag along with the Albanian and Kosovo flag.

If this guy can't even state the right date of Kosovo's declaration of Independence, how on earth would he know about all sort of camps going on on the other end of the world?

Please everyone, read the article and have a good laugh!

The deceleration of independence by the occupying institutions was not illegal as I can declare my 4 bedroom home to be a new kingdom if I like, but doesn't make it fact.
(Ari Gold, 3 December 2012 22:13)

Please feel free to declare your 4 bedroom home to be a new kingdom if you like, and make it fact or not if you so wish - that's your business. Kosovo couldn't care less what you do with your home.

All Kosovo cares about is that its DI is in accordance with international law thanks to Vuk's tireless efforts. That's the de jure side. On the de facto side, Kosovo is and has been independent from Serbia since 1999. That's not in dispute and is accepted by all stakeholders, Serbia included.

Sure, we can discuss all day if you wish whether Kosovo is independent or not from UN, UNMIK, EU, US, NATO, etc., etc... but there is one thing that everybody (Serbia included) agrees with, i.e. that Kosovo is independent from Serbia.

Well how would you know if there are any Serbs on Albanian forums UNLESS you saw that yourself? Are you stalking Albanian forums lol? I mean how
Serbia is not near as close to be broke as Kosovo, just look at the BNP to realize that. We all know what kind of people u dirty siptars are, organ sellers and drugdealers. Twofaced liars, you are very fast to accuse serbs for violence but when you are presented with proofs of your own human acts you behave like you dont know anything and that you are innocent like sheeps no matter the evidence. Haradinaj wasnt aquitted because he didnt commit crimes, he was aquitted because he killed all the people that were supposed to show up as whitnesses against him, but I guess your happy that you will have a real gangster as a prime minister, good luck with that!Last but not least in your comment about Dick Marty you show what an animal you are, you apparently t hink its ok to murder innocent people and SELL THEIR ORGANS just as long s were speaking of serbs, now thats an opinon of a real albanian scumbag.





(Albanian, 3 December 2012 14:22)

@ Ari Gold
Yes Kosovo's declaration of independence wasn't illegal and yes it wouldn't be illegal for you to declare your parent's 4 bedroom house independent from the US. And yes declaring it independent doesn't make it fact either. A Declaration of Independence is just stating your intentions, it is what you do after which makes you actually independent. But with your 4 bedroom house, you wouldn't be able to assume powers which the US has, you wouldn't be able to establish state institutions and you wouldn't have the capacity to have to enter diplomatic relations with other states. All of which Kosovo has done.

UNMIK are still in Kosovo, but not as administrators. They handed over their powers to the Kosovo Assembly in summer 2008. UNMIK just produces reports, they just observe what happens in Kosovo now and feed back to the UNSC; which can't do anything either. Russia is the reason UNMIK can't leave, not Serbia; but I don't think Pristina has a problem with 4-5 blokes in an office with a PC aka UNMIK.

Not everyone in the UK supports UKIP or is a hardcore Tory. I've told you why I'm in favour of the EU, for the economic and cultural benefits.

Kosovo is "Islamist quest"? You couldn't be any further from the truth, Islam in Kosovo and Albania is very liberal and is not strictly followed.
And yes as I said before, most Brits don't care about the Balkans, never mind Kosovo and Serbia. But those who do, you will find popular support for Kosovo.

"A training camp of Albanian militants functions near the village of Ropotovo, close to Kosovska Kamenica, in the Yugoslav province of Kosovo, which is controlled by the American force, sources from the Russian peacekeeping force in Kosovo reported on [Oct. 16]. According to [the sources], the camp is now training 50 Afghan and Algerian mujahideen, led by Zaiman Zawahiri. He is reportedly the brother of one of the closest associates of international terrorist Osama bin Laden. This camp prepares militants for terrorist formations in Kosovo and Macedonia. Their 'instructors' are former [ethnic] Albanian officers who, in 1991-92, deserted from the Yugoslav Army."

The Independent reported on Oct. 21 that Interpol has linked bin Laden to Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) crime gangs, and that he "supplied one of his top military commanders for an elite KLA unit" in Kosovo.

But I guess The Independent is a serbian propaganda source right?

On March 24, 1999, NATO initiated air attacks on Yugoslavia (a federation of two republics, Serbia and Montenegro) in order to impose a peace agreement in the Serbian province of Kosovo, which has an ethnic Albanian majority. The Clinton Administration has not formally withdrawn its standing insistence that Belgrade sign the peace agreement, which would entail the deployment in Kosovo of some 28,000 NATO ground troops -- including 4,000 Americans -- to police the settlement. But in recent days the Clinton public line has shifted to a demand that Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic halt the offensive he has launched in Kosovo, which has led to a growing humanitarian crisis in the region, before there can be a stop to the bombing campaign.

One week into the bombing campaign, there is widespread discussion of options for further actions. One option includes forging a closer relationship between the United States and a controversial group, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a group which has been cited in unofficial reports for alleged ties to drug cartels and Islamic terrorist organizations. This paper will examine those allegations in the context of the currently unfolding air campaign.

Source: The united state senate republican policy committe. Heres the link: http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/fr033199.htm

Topic / Topic Archive /
Kosovo continues to have huge natality rate
Kosovo continues to have an enormous natality rate and by far the youngest population in Europe.

(KosovoCompromise Staff) Friday, July 11, 2008
The extremely high natality rate of the Kosovo Albanian population has already radically changed the demographics of the Serbian province over the last decades.

According to the Kosovo Statistical Office, for every death there were five births in Kosovo.

Mendo, serbian propaganda from a Kosovo statistical office right?

Ataman why are you so upset with Albanians allays? Did one sell you a watch no mechanism inside. You went back then he talked you getting the expensive luxury model that the hands worked. But when you got home the watch stop working you opened it up found wind up rubber band inside.

(Lenard, 3 December 2012 22:48)

Hey, all I did mention is "A" and "S". And donkeys. And Serbian border guards. And Slav girl with missing kidney. And "A" being good at wind-up contest, nothing else.

Really, really, everything what I wrote has nothing to do with Albanians, it's just your imagination... and what kind of watch anyway? Do Albanians have anything to do with stolen luxury model watches? C'mon Lenard, it's nothing like that. I was thinking "A" being like "Algerians" or "Afghanis" or "Argentinians", no kidding.

And now someone accuses me being a Serbian fascist for that... imagine. He is maybe is some native Argentinian who felt being hurt, sorry to see him being upset that much, yes, they in Argentinian province Jujuj (would pronounce "Хухуй" in Russian) are pretty bad with poor donkeys, I would say to that guy only to go where he came from (иди на Хухуй).

Does everybody here remember the joke that ends "Now we're just haggling over the price" ?

Enjoy your victories, losers.
(Ataman, 3 December 2012 18:59)

Each second, loser..

@Daniel

Please show us proof where those training camps are in Kosovo cos we don't know of any of them. I guess you are buying Russian propaganda about those camps. When it comes to crimes every country has criminals including your beloved Sweden.

Kosovo is "Islamist quest"? You couldn't be any further from the truth, Islam in Kosovo and Albania is very liberal and is not strictly followed.
And yes as I said before, most Brits don't care about the Balkans, never mind Kosovo and Serbia. But those who do, you will find popular support for Kosovo.
(Ian, UK, 4 December 2012 11:37)

Just another comment from an ignorant person with no clue whatsoever. Islam in kosovo is far far from liberal, one example of that is the al kaida camps that train terrorists. Here you have some important peoples opinion on islam in Kosovo.Mosques are supposedly monitored by the community to ensure radical preaching is not tolerated, says expert Jabir Hamiti, but one mosque was closed recently because of a Wahhabi Imam that was using money to win over poor villagers.

There were reports of children being covered from head to toe and reported religious field trips to Saudi Arabia.

Kosovo Albanian, Ekhrem Avdiya, is a leader of the “Kosovo Islamic Bureau” in Kosovska Mitrovica and that the Bureau is formed in 1998 and financed by Saudis.

Its purpose is to funnel terror money and recruit local Albanian Muslims for terror attacks.

“Most of these are from the ranks of the KLA. At the end of the 1990s, in Kosovska Mitrovica, a group of al-Qaeda members were persecuted among whom was Ekhrem Avdiyu, Hadzmadin Laush and Shpen Kopriva,

@Daniel

I'm not going to scoop to your level and call the Sweedish people all sorts of things without proof but that comment of yours just shows how ignorant and brainwashed you must be. I'm guessing you are one of those ignorant religious person no much different from those mujaheddins except that you are with the cross. Shame really.

@flying dutchman. Well according to european media the kosovo albanians have the highest birth rate in the world and its a historical fact that the albanians have a lot of children. But of course as a dutchman without any knowledge whatsoever of the balkans how can you know that?From The Washington Post:Colorado Springs, CO: How did the Serbs become a minority in Kosovo?

Tom Emmert: Over the course of the Ottoman period, many Serbs left the territory for new opportunities and at times for some refuge in the mountains of Bosnia and eventually to serve as border guards in the military front of the Austrian empire in Croatia. At the end of the 17th c. after an unsuccessful attempt by Austria to take over the region, fear of Turkish reprisals caused a significant number of Kosovo Serbs to move to Hungary. In the 18th and 19th c. as more and more Albanians descended the mountains into Kosovo, the population balance began to shift dramatically so that on the eve of WWI, the best estimates suggests that the Serbs represented only 28% of the population. During the course of the 20th c. the Kosovo Albanian natality rate has been the highest in Europe which has further influenced the uneven demographic balance. Finally, many Serbs have left the region in he 1980s and 90s.



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Mendo of course you cant when you dont have any proofs. I capture filthy albanians every fkn day. Besides, more than 90%of the heroin that reaches scandinavia and western europe is distributed by you and your fellow countrymen I hope thats something that you are proud of. Not to mention organtrafficking and regular trafficking where you albanians are unbeaten. But hey, nothing wrong with killing serb civilians and sell their organs as long as it puts food on the table right?After all they are just serbs.

Yes Kosovo's declaration of independence wasn't illegal and yes it wouldn't be illegal for you to declare your parent's 4 bedroom house independent from the US. Of course it was illegal, Kosovo was a part of a sovereign state and due to international law no one can change the borders of a internationally recognized and sovereign state. End of story.

Why — since Kosovo’s ruling Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) have been known for their trafficking in women, heroin, and human body parts (sic) — has the United States been pushing for Kosovo’s membership in NATO and the European Union? (Just what the EU needs: another economic basket case.) Between 1998 and 2002, the KLA appeared on the State Department terrorist list, remaining there until the United States decided to make them an ally, due in no small part to the existence of a major American military base in Kosovo, Camp Bondsteel, well situated in relation to planned international oil and gas pipelines coming from the vast landlocked Caspian Sea area to Europe. In November 2005, following a visit to Bondsteel, Alvaro Gil-Robles, the human rights envoy of the Council of Europe, described the camp as a “smaller version of Guantánamo”.

As I said before show me proof where are those camps? Need proof not gossip?

I gave yiou more proof than you albanians showed for the so called "Racak massacre"where you killed your own people in order to make NATO intervene.

Bin Laden visited the area three times between 1994 and 1996. In the wake of these visits, al Qaeda training camps popped up in Zenica in Bosnia and Malisevo and Mitrovica in Kosovo; elaborate command and control centers were set up in Croatia, Macedonia, and Bulgaria; and a central headquarters for the mujahadeen was established in Tropje, Albania, on the property of Sali Betisha, the former Albanian premier.

In addition, Bin Laden provided seven hundred million dollars to establish the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA). The purpose of the KLA was to drive Christian Serbs from Kosovo, to topple the government of Milosevic, to undermine the peace initiatives of Ibrahim Rugova, and to unite the Muslims of Kosovo, Macedonia, and Albania into the Islamic Republic of Greater Albania.

Mehdo, of course you "dont know anything about them"just as you dont know anything about heroidealing and organtrafficking. You are all innocent and everything else showing ur not is propaganda right?Fo course every country has criminality, especially the countries with albanian population. Go to a police station in a western country and ask what they think of kosovo albanians. Wherever you go u create trouble. Only thing you know is how to steal, deal drugs and make 14-15 children in every family.

@ Daniel

Every 1 death 5 born!!! Do the maths, how do you come to 14 children a couple?

Organ harvesting: Biggest Serbian lie ever, no proof no nothing. Even the Hagh did not believe any of your fabrications so that's why Ramush is free.

Drugs are done by all in the Ballkans and they get cought all over the world including Albanian and Serbian gangs.

And by the way Albanians, if you hate serbs so much what are you doing commenting on a serbian news portal?

@Dutchman Hey is this a lie too?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tptjDugqXiM

Burning churches and thousands of people cheering on, but hey I guess albanians are liberal muslims right with respect to other religions?They show their respect by burning churches and breaking crosses.

@Mendo. No drugs are not done by all in the balcans. As I stated before I work as a police officer and I know all about you albanians and statistics show that YOU distribute 90%of the afghan heroin to the rest of europe, look what police officers do to you in greece and italy for example do you think that they do that without a reason?

All Kosovo cares about is that its DI is in accordance with international law thanks to Vuk's tireless efforts.
(icj1, 4 December 2012 03:55)

LMAO someone is quoting an international court that didn't rule in favor of Serbia for something, well i'll be darned.
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That's the de jure side. On the de facto side, Kosovo is and has been independent from Serbia since 1999.
(icj1, 4 December 2012 03:55)

So has Hong Kong from China, customs, WTO membership etc take your pick, when you have a military and are a UN member you just might be onto something. Re-read the Accords and see if there are any similarities with whats going on.

Yeah I guess thats why you organize training camps for mujaheedeens in order to make them carry out terrorist acts allower the world. Just beause you love the west right?Well you should know what we in the west hate you. You albanians are nothing but ruthless criminals, drugdealers and murderers. I am a swedish police officer so please dont tell me what kind of people you are, I know already very well.
(Daniel, 4 December 2012 09:34)

Hehe
Such hatful comments I have come across only from Serbs in my entire life, never from any western country.. ever.
So Swete (Swed) ---__--- you sound more like a Serb than anything else!!!
Heji Jarane do not talk to me again --__--!!!! hehe

@ Daniel

Every 1 death 5 born!!! Do the maths, how do you come to 14 children a couple?

Organ harvesting: Biggest Serbian lie ever, no proof no nothing. Even the Hagh did not believe any of your fabrications so that's why Ramush is free.

Drugs are done by all in the Ballkans and they get cought all over the world including Albanian and Serbian gangs.
(Mendo, 4 December 2012 16:38)

The terrorist pig is free because he killed all the whitnesses and because hague failed to protect them. At the end of the trial Judge Alphonsus Orie remarked, “The Chamber gained a strong impression that the trial was being held in an atmosphere where witnesses felt unsafe.” He said that there were “significant difficulties” securing testimony from a large number of witnesses. Of the almost 100 witnesses giving evidence, 34 had to be granted “protective measures” such as using a pseudonym during the court proceedings or having their faces and voices distorted. Eighteen were issued with subpoenas forcing them to attend.

One key witness, former KLA member Shefquet Kabashi, absconded at the last moment from his hotel room leaving a note which said that security conditions were not “fulfilled for a witness to testify properly” at the tribunal. He said he had been threatened during the only other KLA trial ever held at the tribunal—that of former commanders Fatmir Limaj and Isak Musliu—and claimed other witnesses who had testified under protective measures had been killed.

@Mendo. As a matter of fact Dick Marty wrote the report about organ trafficking, so much for "serbian fabrication"right?And by the way the organ traficking case is not dealt with by the hague tribunal but with the Eulex court. A member of the EU special investigation team for the Kosovo organ trafficking case said Serbian prosecutors had informed the team leader, Clint Williamson, about the witness whose sensational claims of having removed a prisoner's heart were aired on Monday in Serbia.

“As the investigation is ongoing, any comments related to the case and possible eyewitness can be harmful,” the source said.

“On our next visit to Belgrade, we will discuss this with Serbian colleagues and see if this testimony is relevant and how to proceed further on the case," the same source added.

@Daniel

As I said before show me proof where are those camps? Need proof not gossip?

15 Children!!!! Never heard of that? Again this is a Serbian propaganda.

"they in Argentinian province Jujuj (would pronounce "Хухуй" in Russian) are pretty bad with poor donkeys, I would say to that guy only to go where he came from (иди на Хухуй)."

Sorry, mean Jujuy ("Хухуй" / "Хухуj" in RU/SR), of course, like in this song sorry for type. It's really good to go there, so indeed "иди на Хухуй", jut don't feel offended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyB21lW_o3I

Ari Gold

You being a Serb of course that would benefit you Serbs, but that is not going to happen. Your dreams are beyond wildest dreams anyone could ever dream. Serbs will have to adjust to Kosova's institutions or they can simply move to Serbia where they actually belong. Dacic will agree with whatever EU proposes him that is a guarantee. I know he was one of your hero's just months ago before elections were taking place in Serbia where Dacic started arresting innocent Albanians, he knew what Serbs like you wanted to see and hear. Now that he is a prime minister and had been bought out for sure he will do whatever he is told, yet give twisted speeches in Belgrade. I thought you guys were aiming for all of Kosova not just north.
Weren't you the one who kept babbling about how Serbia should liberate Kosova from so called temporary occupation of the west? Do you have any idea how many times you wrote that same sentence?
Hahaha you're a complete joke.

Ridiculous!

The money made from goods and transport entering Kosovo should be spent on all the people of Kosovo, not just Serbs; especially as a big chunk of Serbs in the North reject Kosovo's institutions. Serbia administrates the North the money Serbia makes from goods and transport leaving Kosovo and entering Serbia can go on the Serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Besides if Kosovo were to give it's money to Serbs in the north, the criminal gangs in the north would sypher off the money into their personal bank accounts to finance further criminal activity.

Ari Gold,
This is not a Serbian forum. If so, it would not take place in English but in Serbian language. Stop trying to impede the free speech. If you talk the world in English, it will answer you back.
(Brandon, 3 December 2012 14:03)

You albanian trolls are here only to intimidate and spew your venom. This is a Serbian forum and let us BS amongst ourselves. If we are incorrect about an issue, let that be our problem. In the mean time, find yourselves an albanian forum and indulge in your own affairs.

Ridiculous!

The money made from goods and transport entering Kosovo should be spent on all the people of Kosovo, not just Serbs; especially as a big chunk of Serbs in the North reject Kosovo's institutions. Serbia administrates the North the money Serbia makes from goods and transport leaving Kosovo and entering Serbia can go on the Serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Besides if Kosovo were to give it's money to Serbs in the north, the criminal gangs in the north would sypher off the money into their personal bank accounts to finance further criminal activity.
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 12:36)

If you call the struggle to survive against blood thirsty predators that the albanian extremists are a crime than i think you should serve some kind of sentence yourself. What twisted views you have one could only assume you're a secret agent of sorts trying to instigate hate, or somone who is so completely drenched in propaganda that he will likely not even recognise his own mother anymore.

Also its certain your name is not Ian and you are not from the UK. The whole "serbs are criminals and monsters" illusion no longer exists in the UK thanks to the countless of stories that have gone around of their peacekeepers who were in yugoslavia and witnessed how serbs were abused and massacred.

Take off the mask and stop pretending that normal people from the west support albania and their cause.

(Albanian, 3 December 2012 12:10)

Hey Albanian, nice to see you on a Serbian forum, because that is of course where you are from after all isn't it?

Anyway before we begin, Dacic was NEVER my hero. He is a socialist and most specific a Titoist so therefore it is impossible for him to be my hero. Talk about dreams.

You mention "Kosovo institutions" that the Serbs will have to somehow adjust to, but what institutions do you speak of? The only institutions I see in Kosovo i Metohija are the ones that are Serbian, Western and Albanian ones that only survive by generous humanitarian donations by Western NGO's that take it upon themselves to prop up your joke of a "government" in order to make it seem like its something legitimate. We both know its not or otherwise you wouldn't be here on B92 would you?

Of course Kosovo i Metohija is occupied and of course liberation is inevitable because the fact remains, despite all the BS that you try to throw at your fellow Serbian citizens, your institutions CANNOT and will not survive without outside funding. Kosovo i Metohija receives no investments worth noting, both Serbs and Albanians are living in dire conditions (its just Serbs have to worry about ethnically motivated violence) and the billions the KLA has received to ultimately be given to better the lives of the Albanians has went deep into their own pockets.

My friend, you here are the joke. I don't see Serbs on Albanian forums after all ;) ;)

Ari Gold,
This is not a Serbian forum. If so, it would not take place in English but in Serbian language. Stop trying to impede the free speech. If you talk the world in English, it will answer you back.

@AriGold
Well how would you know if there are any Serbs on Albanian forums UNLESS you saw that yourself? Are you stalking Albanian forums lol? I mean how would you know if there are Serbs commenting on Albanian forums if you never visited one? Now you're worried about KLA violence against Serbs? If KLA wanted to clean up Kosova of whatever 5% left of Serbs in Kosov they could get it done in a day. Just like Haradinaj did clean up Kosova of every Serb that committed crimes in Kosova. Yet you guys wanted to complain about how he is a terrorist and on and on. The world has not forgotten your barbaric crimes against BIH KOS CRT. Justice have been Served for Haradinaj Gotovina and Oric. Where were you Serbs prior to killing all the Croatians Bosnians and Albanians? You should of thought about the outcome then and not now. You guys are 20+ years late. Obviously it's hard to catch up for you guys considering the fact that you're still living the years of 90's. The former Hague prosecutor Carla will be tried for her fabricated stories against Haradinaj, she will have to rat on you Serbs as well. Your Hero Marty will also have to stop lying pretty soon. As soon as you Serbs stop bribing them, stop spending the very last few dinars you've got left. You should of spent that money on your own people who are suffering. At this point Serbia is just as broke as Kosova. We all know that it's not a secret I know how you Serbs think of Serbia as if it is Luxembourg or something but it isn't.

Besides if Kosovo were to give it's money to Serbs in the north, the criminal gangs in the north would sypher off the money into their personal bank accounts to finance further criminal activity.
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 12:36)

Man, you don't even try to hide your rage do you?

Are you suggesting there are no 'criminal gangs' in Pristina who have NOT received billions billions from Western liberal NGO's?? You are an idiot to even mention criminal gangs in northern Kosovo i Metohija as somehow not being able to hold onto money meanwhile the heroin dealers and organ extractors in Pristina somehow can??

Seek help my friend. And a hobby too!

Belgrad is now learning from new Russian masters.
Say to West, give money to Kosovo local authority.
Then, split money with Kosovo authority.
Politicians like in Kreml get richer with nice Swiss accounts.
People get nothing.

Typical Serbian two face: sell people nationalism, then steal the money.

Though I do not trust Belgrade authorities, if this does in fact happen then it would benefit the Serbs in northern Kosovo i Metohija. In fact, this is a form of economic decentralization where the money does not stay in the capital (Belgrade) and communities make use of whatever money is created in their region.

This should be the case for all other Serbian regions-Srem, Banat, Sumadija and the rest. Economic decentralization is the way to go!

Nice to see Serbia is beginning to take that path, even if it is with the Titoists who I don't trust.

(Simot, 3 December 2012 13:33)

The Serbs survival in the North is not under threat, that is a myth. You're the one drenched in Popoganda. Whenever Pristina's authorities go to the North, they're the ones at risk not the Serbs.

Northern Kosovo isn't properly intergrated into either Serbia or Kosovo and has thus become a safe haven for criminal activity. Even B92 have done documentries on this and how they abuse public money. I'm not making it up.

Pristina doesn't run the North, so whatever happens in the north cannot be blamed on Pristina because they are unable to exercise any power or authority there.

Also I don't think "serbs are criminals and monsters", only a very small minority are (as are people from all ethnic groups); this is why I would never brand or label an entire ethnic group as it is unfair to brand a whole ethnic group based on the actions of a very small minority of people.

And yes you're using that old silly tactic that I must be an Albanian for supporting Kosovo. Well I've heard it all before. I think you'll be suprised how many people in the West support Kosovo. Of course the vast majority of people in the West don't care about the Balkans, never mind Kosovo and Serbia. If you want to pretend I'm Albanian, then that is fine by me; I don't care in the slightest what you think.

I like the idea of negotiating these practical issues. The EU expects that Pristina will just get everything, in there supposed negotiations. Well this is negotiating. Each side makes proposals and they are up for debate.

Man, you don't even try to hide your rage do you?

Are you suggesting there are no 'criminal gangs' in Pristina who have NOT received billions billions from Western liberal NGO's?? You are an idiot to even mention criminal gangs in northern Kosovo i Metohija as somehow not being able to hold onto money meanwhile the heroin dealers and organ extractors in Pristina somehow can??

Seek help my friend. And a hobby too!
(Ari Gold, 3 December 2012 14:24)

What rage?

Yes crime happens in Pristina too. I don't deny that.

Even B92 did a documentry recently how crimal gangs in Northern Kosovo abuse public money.

I obviously have the same hobby as you, blogging on B92 ;)

What rage?

Yes crime happens in Pristina too. I don't deny that.

Even B92 did a documentry recently how crimal gangs in Northern Kosovo abuse public money.

I obviously have the same hobby as you, blogging on B92 ;)
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 15:20)

Fair enough. So why then, if money is left in Northern Kosovo i Metohija that somehow it will end up in criminal elements of society meanwhile if it is first sent to Pristina and then distributed throughout Kosovo i Metohija it will be a more lawful transaction? This is what you were implying, and I exposed you for the troll that you are.

You say Northern Kosovo i Metohija is a hotbed of crime because it is not "integrated into Kosovo or Serbia" but I say Kosovo i Metohija itself is a hotbed of crime because it is not fully integrated into the rest of Serbia, due to the illegal but temporary occupation.

You albanian trolls are here only to intimidate and spew your venom.
(ivan, 3 December 2012 14:27)

This became a place of collective wind-up contest "A versus S", where "A" has without doubt their ONLY victory ever in a contest. Be it a math olympics, science, sport or art. Ooops, sorry, I am wrong. They have two more victories:

- donkey ride uphill with some Slavonic girl in right hand and her kidney in left hand
- fast donkey ride against Serbian border guards looking for drugs and genuine Bulgarian cigarettes made in China

Enjoy your victories, losers.

Ataman why are you so upset with Albanians allays? Did one sell you a watch no mechanism inside. You went back then he talked you getting the expensive luxury model that the hands worked. But when you got home the watch stop working you opened it up found wind up rubber band inside.

It is not April, isn't it? Are they serious? This is the blueprint for more patriotic pillaging. You just declare items which never have been sold, smuggled in, or whatever a get money back from the Serbian state. Yet, Serbia even recognizes the border, but does not want to speak it out.

So hilarious, but so be it. It is Serbia's money. This can be the least of Kosovo's problem..

@ Ina UK "I think you'll be suprised how many people in the West support Kosovo"

Good that you still have that mentality, as Bin Laden too was "supported" by the west when he was fighting the Soviets, and look how well that turned out????
That's one thing the "west" Anglo-Brits/Americans will NEVER understand, and alway underestimate the Albanian mentality...keep it up! :)

Ah, they want more money to play with and organise more crimes. No way.

@Ari Gold, you just being childish, why can we not comment here and where does it say ONLY Serbians can comment?

BOOM!
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 18:29)

lol, boom? Really?

Of course there is corruption in Serbia, we both just agreed that it exists in Kosovo i Metohija so by default that means Serbia is suffering from corruption as well. I am the biggest critic of our authorities unlike primitive Albanians who support known organ extractors, Jihadists, Heroin dealers..people who have harmed Albanians as well as Serbs.

UNMIK is actually still in Kosovo i Metohija but in a smaller role because Serbia's traitorous gov't agreed to it!! This fact alone proves that Serbia's final say on Kosovo i Metohija is what matters the most. The deceleration of independence by the occupying institutions was not illegal as I can declare my 4 bedroom home to be a new kingdom if I like, but doesn't make it fact. This is why UNMIK cannot fully withdraw from Kosovo i Metohija, again unless Serbia allows.

And if I am boring you then go have a debate with some of your countrymen who are now overwhelmingly against EU membership and you, without even knowing why you are for it are increasingly becoming fringe and are considered a lunatic in many circles in UK society.

And did you say that many ordinary Westerners support Kosovo Albanians in their Islamist quest? You really are a moron lol. Most don't even know or care, the ones who do, for the most part, see what Serbia is going through as a pretext for what will happen if the UK continues to keep the door open to uncontrolled immigration.

i love the border between serbia and kosovo...money is going to the kosov institution dacic, you can't decide where it's going sorry to break you the news....just keep worrying about who has a bigger pin LOL

@ Ina UK "I think you'll be suprised how many people in the West support Kosovo"
USA it is not Ina_UK but Ian_UK
Yes USA there are many people in the West that supports Kosova, but Ian does it in a cute way --__--.

Ian is not alone. Many British/American personalities have supported Kosova/Albania starting over a 100 years ago or so. Do not forget Woodrow Wilson, Edith Durham, Aubrey Herbert etc.

Albanians like Alqaide? No. Wast majority of Albanians adore the west. o
Openly… hehe…

When will people learn that this not a forum? Its the comments section of B92. You cant start topics, you are not a registered forum member, you are simply a commenter who gives his opinion on current news items. Its in english so it is clearly aimed at international, non-serbian speaking visitors.

As for the article: its kinda ridiculous of Belgrade to ask for something (that they should have thought about and demanded before they blindly agreed to the IBM) and at the same time refuse when the other side asks for something (abolition of illegal structures) in exchange (and in this case the "other side" isnt even Prishtina, its the EU with a known condition for Serbias EU path). I guess we have to wait and see what Hashim, Ivica and Cathy have come up with.

Ivan,
I guess everyone who disagrees with you (even on what forum )is a troll and speews venom. I guess B92 does not share the same opinion. See by talking to yourself you will probably be happy and convinced that you are right, but that does not change the facts.

(Ari Gold, 3 December 2012 15:49)

Are we really having this discussion cos you're really boring me?

Yes there is crime in Kosovo, but there is also crime and corruption in Serbia too and most of the Balkans.

Why would it be more lawful?

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/tvshows.php?yyyy=2012&mm=09&nav_id=82355
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=10&dd=03&nav_id=82472
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=01&nav_id=83437

That is what happens when money is thrown at Northern Kosovo.

And If I had a penny for every time you said "temporary occupation", I'd be a very rich man.

And I love it when people like you use the word "illegal" when referring to Kosovo's independence because the only thing which makes Kosovo's independence illegal is the Serbian Constitution and considering that the referendum on accepting Serbia's Constitution was not even carried out in Kosovo is the biggest joke of all. Who do you think in Kosovo or on the international arena gives a rat's a*** about Serbia's Constitution when it comes to Kosovo? 1244 doesn't say that Kosovo can't become independent and it doesn't say that Kosovo needs Serbia's permission to do so either. All 1244 said was that Kosovo is to remain apart of FR Yugoslavia whilst under UN administration. Yugoslavia no longer exists and Kosovo is no longer under UN administration. So good day.

I'm off to get a hobby!

I think I might try Russian Roulette!

BOOM!

Ataman why are you so upset with Albanians allays? Did one sell you a watch no mechanism inside. You went back then he talked you getting the expensive luxury model that the hands worked. But when you got home the watch stop working you opened it up found wind up rubber band inside.

(Lenard, 3 December 2012 22:48)

Hey, all I did mention is "A" and "S". And donkeys. And Serbian border guards. And Slav girl with missing kidney. And "A" being good at wind-up contest, nothing else.

Really, really, everything what I wrote has nothing to do with Albanians, it's just your imagination... and what kind of watch anyway? Do Albanians have anything to do with stolen luxury model watches? C'mon Lenard, it's nothing like that. I was thinking "A" being like "Algerians" or "Afghanis" or "Argentinians", no kidding.

And now someone accuses me being a Serbian fascist for that... imagine. He is maybe is some native Argentinian who felt being hurt, sorry to see him being upset that much, yes, they in Argentinian province Jujuj (would pronounce "Хухуй" in Russian) are pretty bad with poor donkeys, I would say to that guy only to go where he came from (иди на Хухуй).

Northern Kosovo isn't properly intergrated into either Serbia or Kosovo and has thus become a safe haven for criminal activity. Even B92 have done documentries on this and how they abuse public money. I'm not making it up.
(Ian, UK)

Integration into Kosovo* will not help to eliminate criminal activity. Unfortunately you are right that Northern Kosovo isn't integrated into Serbia, but this isn't Northern Kosovo's fault.

Since customs are not going to be paid at the crossing points, but in the southern part of Mitrovica (or Nis/Vranje), what happens to the money is up to Prishtina. Since they're asking Serbia to withdraw the parallel institutions, this customs money can go towards replacing the funding from Serbia for the schools and hospitals in the North. Considering what the Insajder team discovered about what happens to money from Serbia on its way south, this might actually see more cash going to the institutions that provide services to ordinary people rather than the politicians.

Enjoy your victories, losers.
(Ataman, 3 December 2012 18:59)

Each second, loser..

(Daniel, 4 December 2012 12:27)

Many of Kosovo's young Muslims drink alcohol, have sex outside marriage, eat pork ect. That is very Islamic of them. Islam is very loosely followed by the young generations.

Saudia Arabia and friends are scared of this type of Islam. They are trying to build more and more mosques to stop this type of Islam speading into the rest of the Islamic world.

Please please please put your money where your mouth is and show me some RELIABLE evidence to suggest that there are "al kaida camps that train terrorists" in Kosovo.

Does everybody here remember the joke that ends "Now we're just haggling over the price" ?

The deceleration of independence by the occupying institutions was not illegal as I can declare my 4 bedroom home to be a new kingdom if I like, but doesn't make it fact.
(Ari Gold, 3 December 2012 22:13)

Please feel free to declare your 4 bedroom home to be a new kingdom if you like, and make it fact or not if you so wish - that's your business. Kosovo couldn't care less what you do with your home.

All Kosovo cares about is that its DI is in accordance with international law thanks to Vuk's tireless efforts. That's the de jure side. On the de facto side, Kosovo is and has been independent from Serbia since 1999. That's not in dispute and is accepted by all stakeholders, Serbia included.

Sure, we can discuss all day if you wish whether Kosovo is independent or not from UN, UNMIK, EU, US, NATO, etc., etc... but there is one thing that everybody (Serbia included) agrees with, i.e. that Kosovo is independent from Serbia.

@ Ari Gold
Yes Kosovo's declaration of independence wasn't illegal and yes it wouldn't be illegal for you to declare your parent's 4 bedroom house independent from the US. And yes declaring it independent doesn't make it fact either. A Declaration of Independence is just stating your intentions, it is what you do after which makes you actually independent. But with your 4 bedroom house, you wouldn't be able to assume powers which the US has, you wouldn't be able to establish state institutions and you wouldn't have the capacity to have to enter diplomatic relations with other states. All of which Kosovo has done.

UNMIK are still in Kosovo, but not as administrators. They handed over their powers to the Kosovo Assembly in summer 2008. UNMIK just produces reports, they just observe what happens in Kosovo now and feed back to the UNSC; which can't do anything either. Russia is the reason UNMIK can't leave, not Serbia; but I don't think Pristina has a problem with 4-5 blokes in an office with a PC aka UNMIK.

Not everyone in the UK supports UKIP or is a hardcore Tory. I've told you why I'm in favour of the EU, for the economic and cultural benefits.

Kosovo is "Islamist quest"? You couldn't be any further from the truth, Islam in Kosovo and Albania is very liberal and is not strictly followed.
And yes as I said before, most Brits don't care about the Balkans, never mind Kosovo and Serbia. But those who do, you will find popular support for Kosovo.

Bin Laden visited the area three times between 1994 and 1996. In the wake of these visits, al Qaeda training camps popped up in Zenica in Bosnia and Malisevo and Mitrovica in Kosovo; elaborate command and control centers were set up in Croatia, Macedonia, and Bulgaria; and a central headquarters for the mujahadeen was established in Tropje, Albania, on the property of Sali Betisha, the former Albanian premier.

In addition, Bin Laden provided seven hundred million dollars to establish the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA). The purpose of the KLA was to drive Christian Serbs from Kosovo, to topple the government of Milosevic, to undermine the peace initiatives of Ibrahim Rugova, and to unite the Muslims of Kosovo, Macedonia, and Albania into the Islamic Republic of Greater Albania.

Mehdo, of course you "dont know anything about them"just as you dont know anything about heroidealing and organtrafficking. You are all innocent and everything else showing ur not is propaganda right?Fo course every country has criminality, especially the countries with albanian population. Go to a police station in a western country and ask what they think of kosovo albanians. Wherever you go u create trouble. Only thing you know is how to steal, deal drugs and make 14-15 children in every family.

@Daniel

I'm not going to scoop to your level and call the Sweedish people all sorts of things without proof but that comment of yours just shows how ignorant and brainwashed you must be. I'm guessing you are one of those ignorant religious person no much different from those mujaheddins except that you are with the cross. Shame really.

"Islamic Republic of Greater Albania"

when did albania become an Islamic Republic? what the hell are you on about?

Well how would you know if there are any Serbs on Albanian forums UNLESS you saw that yourself? Are you stalking Albanian forums lol? I mean how
Serbia is not near as close to be broke as Kosovo, just look at the BNP to realize that. We all know what kind of people u dirty siptars are, organ sellers and drugdealers. Twofaced liars, you are very fast to accuse serbs for violence but when you are presented with proofs of your own human acts you behave like you dont know anything and that you are innocent like sheeps no matter the evidence. Haradinaj wasnt aquitted because he didnt commit crimes, he was aquitted because he killed all the people that were supposed to show up as whitnesses against him, but I guess your happy that you will have a real gangster as a prime minister, good luck with that!Last but not least in your comment about Dick Marty you show what an animal you are, you apparently t hink its ok to murder innocent people and SELL THEIR ORGANS just as long s were speaking of serbs, now thats an opinon of a real albanian scumbag.





(Albanian, 3 December 2012 14:22)

Enjoy your victories, losers.
(Ataman, 3 December 2012 18:59)

There is almost nothing worse than a bad loser, such as you. At least you removed your mask, showing your Serbian fascist mask, what I suspected anyway.

Kosovo is "Islamist quest"? You couldn't be any further from the truth, Islam in Kosovo and Albania is very liberal and is not strictly followed.
And yes as I said before, most Brits don't care about the Balkans, never mind Kosovo and Serbia. But those who do, you will find popular support for Kosovo.
(Ian, UK, 4 December 2012 11:37)

Just another comment from an ignorant person with no clue whatsoever. Islam in kosovo is far far from liberal, one example of that is the al kaida camps that train terrorists. Here you have some important peoples opinion on islam in Kosovo.Mosques are supposedly monitored by the community to ensure radical preaching is not tolerated, says expert Jabir Hamiti, but one mosque was closed recently because of a Wahhabi Imam that was using money to win over poor villagers.

There were reports of children being covered from head to toe and reported religious field trips to Saudi Arabia.

Kosovo Albanian, Ekhrem Avdiya, is a leader of the “Kosovo Islamic Bureau” in Kosovska Mitrovica and that the Bureau is formed in 1998 and financed by Saudis.

Its purpose is to funnel terror money and recruit local Albanian Muslims for terror attacks.

“Most of these are from the ranks of the KLA. At the end of the 1990s, in Kosovska Mitrovica, a group of al-Qaeda members were persecuted among whom was Ekhrem Avdiyu, Hadzmadin Laush and Shpen Kopriva,

@Daniel

As I said before show me proof where are those camps? Need proof not gossip?

15 Children!!!! Never heard of that? Again this is a Serbian propaganda.

Mendo of course you cant when you dont have any proofs. I capture filthy albanians every fkn day. Besides, more than 90%of the heroin that reaches scandinavia and western europe is distributed by you and your fellow countrymen I hope thats something that you are proud of. Not to mention organtrafficking and regular trafficking where you albanians are unbeaten. But hey, nothing wrong with killing serb civilians and sell their organs as long as it puts food on the table right?After all they are just serbs.

@Daniel, here is a quote from the same author (Dr. Paul L. William) in the same article ( http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1962 ) he speaks about Al-qaida training camps in Kosovo. He writes:

"...But book-burning is the least of the sins of our new friend and ally. The Kosovars have also sacked churches, raped nuns, and mass-murdered approximately 4,000 Christian Serbs in and around the town of Srebrenica and its adjoining towns and villages (Bratunac, Skelani, Milici, et al) as well as the town of Gorazde..."

So, according to this lunatic, Kosovo-Albanians are responsible for the death of 4,000 Christian Serbs in Srebrenica. Do you think this is accurate Daniel?

He further writes:

"After announcing their independence from Serbia on February 16, thousands of ethnic Albanians (Muslims) took to the streets waving American flags and singing patriotic songs."

Kosovo declared it's independence on February 17, 2008. And why the emphasize on "Muslims"? What is he trying to prove? Because there were also many Albanian Catholics and Orthodox who celebrated and waved the American flag along with the Albanian and Kosovo flag.

If this guy can't even state the right date of Kosovo's declaration of Independence, how on earth would he know about all sort of camps going on on the other end of the world?

Please everyone, read the article and have a good laugh!

Yes Kosovo's declaration of independence wasn't illegal and yes it wouldn't be illegal for you to declare your parent's 4 bedroom house independent from the US. Of course it was illegal, Kosovo was a part of a sovereign state and due to international law no one can change the borders of a internationally recognized and sovereign state. End of story.
(Daniel, 4 December 2012 15:01)

Well according to the UN and International law re Kosovo's declaration of independence "did not violate general international law".

"due to international law no one can change the borders of a internationally recognized and sovereign state" And who says this exactly? Where is this written? This is according to whom?

Albanians like Alqaide? No. Wast majority of Albanians adore the west. o
Openly… hehe…

Yeah I guess thats why you organize training camps for mujaheedeens in order to make them carry out terrorist acts allower the world. Just beause you love the west right?Well you should know what we in the west hate you. You albanians are nothing but ruthless criminals, drugdealers and murderers. I am a swedish police officer so please dont tell me what kind of people you are, I know already very well.

@Daniel

Please show us proof where those training camps are in Kosovo cos we don't know of any of them. I guess you are buying Russian propaganda about those camps. When it comes to crimes every country has criminals including your beloved Sweden.

@Daniel

Well at least we know now where your sick, twisted ideas come from:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1962

A deeply anti-islamic, christian fundamentalist website. Yep...you totally convinced me!

12-14 children? That's inaccurate. It's 30 children per couple. Thats why there are no 1,7 million Albanians living in Kosovo (like the devilish western media wants you to believe) but 10 million Albanians :-)

Yes Kosovo's declaration of independence wasn't illegal and yes it wouldn't be illegal for you to declare your parent's 4 bedroom house independent from the US. Of course it was illegal, Kosovo was a part of a sovereign state and due to international law no one can change the borders of a internationally recognized and sovereign state. End of story.

@ Daniel

Every 1 death 5 born!!! Do the maths, how do you come to 14 children a couple?

Organ harvesting: Biggest Serbian lie ever, no proof no nothing. Even the Hagh did not believe any of your fabrications so that's why Ramush is free.

Drugs are done by all in the Ballkans and they get cought all over the world including Albanian and Serbian gangs.

Yeah I guess thats why you organize training camps for mujaheedeens in order to make them carry out terrorist acts allower the world. Just beause you love the west right?Well you should know what we in the west hate you. You albanians are nothing but ruthless criminals, drugdealers and murderers. I am a swedish police officer so please dont tell me what kind of people you are, I know already very well.
(Daniel, 4 December 2012 09:34)

Hehe
Such hatful comments I have come across only from Serbs in my entire life, never from any western country.. ever.
So Swete (Swed) ---__--- you sound more like a Serb than anything else!!!
Heji Jarane do not talk to me again --__--!!!! hehe

"they in Argentinian province Jujuj (would pronounce "Хухуй" in Russian) are pretty bad with poor donkeys, I would say to that guy only to go where he came from (иди на Хухуй)."

Sorry, mean Jujuy ("Хухуй" / "Хухуj" in RU/SR), of course, like in this song sorry for type. It's really good to go there, so indeed "иди на Хухуй", jut don't feel offended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyB21lW_o3I

I think I might try Russian Roulette!

BOOM!
(Ian, UK, 3 December 2012 18:29)

Instead of Russian Roulette you should try Russian Rolerto. That way you can go BOOM until you pass out
but still be around the next morning to pursue your other hobbies. :~\

"A training camp of Albanian militants functions near the village of Ropotovo, close to Kosovska Kamenica, in the Yugoslav province of Kosovo, which is controlled by the American force, sources from the Russian peacekeeping force in Kosovo reported on [Oct. 16]. According to [the sources], the camp is now training 50 Afghan and Algerian mujahideen, led by Zaiman Zawahiri. He is reportedly the brother of one of the closest associates of international terrorist Osama bin Laden. This camp prepares militants for terrorist formations in Kosovo and Macedonia. Their 'instructors' are former [ethnic] Albanian officers who, in 1991-92, deserted from the Yugoslav Army."

The Independent reported on Oct. 21 that Interpol has linked bin Laden to Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) crime gangs, and that he "supplied one of his top military commanders for an elite KLA unit" in Kosovo.

But I guess The Independent is a serbian propaganda source right?

Why — since Kosovo’s ruling Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) have been known for their trafficking in women, heroin, and human body parts (sic) — has the United States been pushing for Kosovo’s membership in NATO and the European Union? (Just what the EU needs: another economic basket case.) Between 1998 and 2002, the KLA appeared on the State Department terrorist list, remaining there until the United States decided to make them an ally, due in no small part to the existence of a major American military base in Kosovo, Camp Bondsteel, well situated in relation to planned international oil and gas pipelines coming from the vast landlocked Caspian Sea area to Europe. In November 2005, following a visit to Bondsteel, Alvaro Gil-Robles, the human rights envoy of the Council of Europe, described the camp as a “smaller version of Guantánamo”.

As I said before show me proof where are those camps? Need proof not gossip?

I gave yiou more proof than you albanians showed for the so called "Racak massacre"where you killed your own people in order to make NATO intervene.

On March 24, 1999, NATO initiated air attacks on Yugoslavia (a federation of two republics, Serbia and Montenegro) in order to impose a peace agreement in the Serbian province of Kosovo, which has an ethnic Albanian majority. The Clinton Administration has not formally withdrawn its standing insistence that Belgrade sign the peace agreement, which would entail the deployment in Kosovo of some 28,000 NATO ground troops -- including 4,000 Americans -- to police the settlement. But in recent days the Clinton public line has shifted to a demand that Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic halt the offensive he has launched in Kosovo, which has led to a growing humanitarian crisis in the region, before there can be a stop to the bombing campaign.

One week into the bombing campaign, there is widespread discussion of options for further actions. One option includes forging a closer relationship between the United States and a controversial group, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a group which has been cited in unofficial reports for alleged ties to drug cartels and Islamic terrorist organizations. This paper will examine those allegations in the context of the currently unfolding air campaign.

Source: The united state senate republican policy committe. Heres the link: http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/fr033199.htm

Topic / Topic Archive /
Kosovo continues to have huge natality rate
Kosovo continues to have an enormous natality rate and by far the youngest population in Europe.

(KosovoCompromise Staff) Friday, July 11, 2008
The extremely high natality rate of the Kosovo Albanian population has already radically changed the demographics of the Serbian province over the last decades.

According to the Kosovo Statistical Office, for every death there were five births in Kosovo.

Mendo, serbian propaganda from a Kosovo statistical office right?

@flying dutchman. Well according to european media the kosovo albanians have the highest birth rate in the world and its a historical fact that the albanians have a lot of children. But of course as a dutchman without any knowledge whatsoever of the balkans how can you know that?From The Washington Post:Colorado Springs, CO: How did the Serbs become a minority in Kosovo?

Tom Emmert: Over the course of the Ottoman period, many Serbs left the territory for new opportunities and at times for some refuge in the mountains of Bosnia and eventually to serve as border guards in the military front of the Austrian empire in Croatia. At the end of the 17th c. after an unsuccessful attempt by Austria to take over the region, fear of Turkish reprisals caused a significant number of Kosovo Serbs to move to Hungary. In the 18th and 19th c. as more and more Albanians descended the mountains into Kosovo, the population balance began to shift dramatically so that on the eve of WWI, the best estimates suggests that the Serbs represented only 28% of the population. During the course of the 20th c. the Kosovo Albanian natality rate has been the highest in Europe which has further influenced the uneven demographic balance. Finally, many Serbs have left the region in he 1980s and 90s.



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@ Daniel

Every 1 death 5 born!!! Do the maths, how do you come to 14 children a couple?

Organ harvesting: Biggest Serbian lie ever, no proof no nothing. Even the Hagh did not believe any of your fabrications so that's why Ramush is free.

Drugs are done by all in the Ballkans and they get cought all over the world including Albanian and Serbian gangs.
(Mendo, 4 December 2012 16:38)

The terrorist pig is free because he killed all the whitnesses and because hague failed to protect them. At the end of the trial Judge Alphonsus Orie remarked, “The Chamber gained a strong impression that the trial was being held in an atmosphere where witnesses felt unsafe.” He said that there were “significant difficulties” securing testimony from a large number of witnesses. Of the almost 100 witnesses giving evidence, 34 had to be granted “protective measures” such as using a pseudonym during the court proceedings or having their faces and voices distorted. Eighteen were issued with subpoenas forcing them to attend.

One key witness, former KLA member Shefquet Kabashi, absconded at the last moment from his hotel room leaving a note which said that security conditions were not “fulfilled for a witness to testify properly” at the tribunal. He said he had been threatened during the only other KLA trial ever held at the tribunal—that of former commanders Fatmir Limaj and Isak Musliu—and claimed other witnesses who had testified under protective measures had been killed.

@Mendo. As a matter of fact Dick Marty wrote the report about organ trafficking, so much for "serbian fabrication"right?And by the way the organ traficking case is not dealt with by the hague tribunal but with the Eulex court. A member of the EU special investigation team for the Kosovo organ trafficking case said Serbian prosecutors had informed the team leader, Clint Williamson, about the witness whose sensational claims of having removed a prisoner's heart were aired on Monday in Serbia.

“As the investigation is ongoing, any comments related to the case and possible eyewitness can be harmful,” the source said.

“On our next visit to Belgrade, we will discuss this with Serbian colleagues and see if this testimony is relevant and how to proceed further on the case," the same source added.

And by the way Albanians, if you hate serbs so much what are you doing commenting on a serbian news portal?

@Dutchman Hey is this a lie too?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tptjDugqXiM

Burning churches and thousands of people cheering on, but hey I guess albanians are liberal muslims right with respect to other religions?They show their respect by burning churches and breaking crosses.

All Kosovo cares about is that its DI is in accordance with international law thanks to Vuk's tireless efforts.
(icj1, 4 December 2012 03:55)

LMAO someone is quoting an international court that didn't rule in favor of Serbia for something, well i'll be darned.
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That's the de jure side. On the de facto side, Kosovo is and has been independent from Serbia since 1999.
(icj1, 4 December 2012 03:55)

So has Hong Kong from China, customs, WTO membership etc take your pick, when you have a military and are a UN member you just might be onto something. Re-read the Accords and see if there are any similarities with whats going on.

@Mendo. No drugs are not done by all in the balcans. As I stated before I work as a police officer and I know all about you albanians and statistics show that YOU distribute 90%of the afghan heroin to the rest of europe, look what police officers do to you in greece and italy for example do you think that they do that without a reason?