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Wednesday, 28.11.2012.

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“Serbia open for talks, won’t abolish institutions in north”

Serbia is open for talks about all issues except about abolishing the Serbian institutions in Kosovo, says Serbian Foreign Minister Ivan Mrkić.

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sj

pre 11 godina

(Lenard, 29 November 2012 09:29)
Lenny Wikipedia is a very poor reference source; you know what source means? No its not part of a meal.
Now your Wiki does not have the fact that Ante Pavelic was part of a delegation pleading with the Serbs to become part of the new Yugoslavia – not Wiki no have that one.
Wiki no have the fact that Tito called little Franjo Tudjman his best pupil – no Wiki no have that. Sadly Wiki talk about Croatians but make no difference between your grandfather and Serbs or Roma or Jews living in that region so they all Croatians. Remember that you have to take head out of ar** before opening mouth.

Remember head out of ar**.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Like many Croats you have a tunnel vision of history. In the early stages of WW2 the partisans were nearly all serbs from Croatia and Bosnia and very few catholic croats. Ya sure SJ it is the opposite what you say here are the figures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans .

sj

pre 11 godina

(Lenard, 28 November 2012 23:15)

Like many Croats you have a tunnel vision of history. In the early stages of WW2 the partisans were nearly all serbs from Croatia and Bosnia and very few catholic croats. It was not until it became evident that the croats were on the losing side that the numbers increased with Tito. Why even your Franjo Tudgman was with the Ustashi and jumped ship to Tito. In fact Tito gave him a special task to take care of the captives at Blieburg and it was Tudjman that was in charge of the execution squads that killed you Ustashi.

War does make some people do terrible things, but your Croats murdered in the thousands during WW2 – it was planned and its called genocide mate. There is a differcne between acts of an individual or groups of individuals and what you Croats did.

sj

pre 11 godina

You wanna bet Ivan Mrkić.
(Avni, 28 November 2012 16:02)

Ivan may not but I am more than willing. Here is a guarantee – institutions in the north remain and Pristina cannot do a thing – NOTHING.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Mike to continue. They were also killed Croatians that opposed them Croatians made 37 of the 80 partisan divisions in ex Yugoslavia. Croatians at that time made only 25% of ex Yugo population and the supreme commander was Tito a Croatian. We can go back to Serbia and chetniks also war crimes to WW1 that appalled the word at that time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_the_Balkan_Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_World_War_II#Ethnic_cleansing Serbia has many skeletons in its closet and crimes against humanity. So don't give me the holier then tho attitude it will not wash Mike.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Lenard

How convenient Lenard to draw the line "AFTER WW2". Why not go back another 3-4 years? Jasenovac! 700.000 serbs, roma and jew killed. Who are you trying to fool with your propaganda.
(MikeC, 28 November 2012 19:54) It was a horrible crime MikeC in no way do I approve of the crime. As for the 700,000 victims that's not true. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) in Washington, D.C. presently estimates that the Ustaša regime murdered between 77,000 and 99,000 people in Jasenovac between 1941 and 1945. The Jasenovac Memorial Site quotes a similar figure of between 80,000 and 100,000 victims. The NDH was founded on 10 April 1941, after the invasion of Yugoslavia by the Axis powers. The NDH consisted of most of modern day Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, together with some parts of modern-day Serbia. It was essentially an Italo-German quasi-protectorate, as it owed its existence to the Axis powers, who maintained occupation forces within the puppet state throughout its existence. That was when the democratically elected Croatian government refused to cooperator with the Nazi Italian & German regimes then they installed the criminal Ustase arrested the democratic Croatia government.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"the Serbs did barbarous heinous criminality on armed countries civilians on a scale and criminality not paralleled or seen in Europe since WW2."

Lenard

How convenient Lenard to draw the line "AFTER WW2". Why not go back another 3-4 years? Who commited the biggest crime in Europe then - Germany and Croatia, Let me remind you! Jasenovac! 700.000 serbs, roma and jew killed. Who are you trying to fool with your propaganda? You think people don't know better? You are just pathetic you fascist.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

If serbs want to move to Kosova they should respect the native people of Kosova the Albanians and learn the Albanian language to make sure they can live there.
(Njeri, 28 November 2012 18:28)

People are speaking about those Serbs who are native people of Kosovo but were expelled from there.

Njeri

pre 11 godina

Serbs should move back to Serbia or even better to Siberia. They dont beling in Kosova because Kosova is Albanian land and will allways remain so.


If serbs want to move to Kosova they should respect the native people of Kosova the Albanians and learn the Albanian language to make sure they can live there.

AcaVeliki

pre 11 godina

Ian, maybe if Albanians didn't harrass, threaten, or even worse, murder, more displaced Kosovo Serbs would return? As for Albanians returning, most of Kosovo is populated by them, so if they do not return, it is simply because they do not want to. I mean really, would you go back to Kosovo?

Gotsefromohrid

pre 11 godina

Here we go again with the Croatian catholic priest Lenard preaching the Serbs about crimes but forgets that his compatriots are No 1 when it comes to crimes.Get a job Lenard,hate is not going to get you anywhere.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

There would be great solution if a lot of KAlbs had emigrated to the West in 1999, got jobs, friends, families there and didn't want to return to the Balkans, let alone Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 28 November 2012 12:28)

They did, there is around 300,000 of K-Albanians in Germany and another 200,000 K-Albanians in Switzerland who emigrated there in the 1990s due to poor living conditions and lack of human rights.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Maybe that is because many of the Serbs willing to return have done so already?
I can't imagine many of the displaced Serbs from Kosovo who currently live in US or EU countries or Norway-Switzerland wanting to return to the Balkans, never mind Kosovo.
Many of them will have settled now, have lives, families, jobs and friends ect. Why would they bother returning?
The same hypothosis applies to why displaced Albanians don't bother returning to Kosovo either.
(Ian, UK, 28 November 2012 10:35)

I am afraid a lot of Serbian refugees live in Serbia in poor conditions.

There would be great solution if a lot of KAlbs had emigrated to the West in 1999, got jobs, friends, families there and didn't want to return to the Balkans, let alone Kosovo.

koko

pre 11 godina

"“The Republic of Serbia will insist on the implementation of the agreed solutions on a joint border management through presence and executive role of EULEX on the administrative line,” the Serbian foreign minister noted."

Serbs insisting on a border. Probably would even threaten war just to have that border now. Nice job.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Commenting on acquittal of Croat Generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač, the Serbian minister said that it would have a negative effect on the reconciliation process in the region and stressed that “it shocked both Serbia and many law experts worldwide”. Man Serbs are drama queens and many law experts worldwide ya rite. What the world is shocked about what the Serbs did barbarous heinous criminality on armed countries civilians on a scale and criminality not paralleled or seen in Europe since WW2. Serb reconciliation and doing rite is a another pie in the sky Serb exclusionary pretentiousness.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

“The Republic of Serbia will insist on the implementation of the agreed solutions on a joint border management through presence and executive role of EULEX on the administrative line,” the Serbian foreign minister noted.

border is a border, so what is the phrase "administrative line"?

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

"He said that the process of the return of the internally displaced persons to Kosovo was a “slow process characterized by a low level of sustainability” and explained that, according to the latest figures for 2012, a mere 285 Serbs returned to Kosovo and testifying to the trend of continued decrease of the number of returns."

Maybe that is because many of the Serbs willing to return have done so already?
I can't imagine many of the displaced Serbs from Kosovo who currently live in US or EU countries or Norway-Switzerland wanting to return to the Balkans, never mind Kosovo.
Many of them will have settled now, have lives, families, jobs and friends ect. Why would they bother returning?
The same hypothosis applies to why displaced Albanians don't bother returning to Kosovo either.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

There would be great solution if a lot of KAlbs had emigrated to the West in 1999, got jobs, friends, families there and didn't want to return to the Balkans, let alone Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 28 November 2012 12:28)

They did, there is around 300,000 of K-Albanians in Germany and another 200,000 K-Albanians in Switzerland who emigrated there in the 1990s due to poor living conditions and lack of human rights.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

"He said that the process of the return of the internally displaced persons to Kosovo was a “slow process characterized by a low level of sustainability” and explained that, according to the latest figures for 2012, a mere 285 Serbs returned to Kosovo and testifying to the trend of continued decrease of the number of returns."

Maybe that is because many of the Serbs willing to return have done so already?
I can't imagine many of the displaced Serbs from Kosovo who currently live in US or EU countries or Norway-Switzerland wanting to return to the Balkans, never mind Kosovo.
Many of them will have settled now, have lives, families, jobs and friends ect. Why would they bother returning?
The same hypothosis applies to why displaced Albanians don't bother returning to Kosovo either.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Commenting on acquittal of Croat Generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač, the Serbian minister said that it would have a negative effect on the reconciliation process in the region and stressed that “it shocked both Serbia and many law experts worldwide”. Man Serbs are drama queens and many law experts worldwide ya rite. What the world is shocked about what the Serbs did barbarous heinous criminality on armed countries civilians on a scale and criminality not paralleled or seen in Europe since WW2. Serb reconciliation and doing rite is a another pie in the sky Serb exclusionary pretentiousness.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Maybe that is because many of the Serbs willing to return have done so already?
I can't imagine many of the displaced Serbs from Kosovo who currently live in US or EU countries or Norway-Switzerland wanting to return to the Balkans, never mind Kosovo.
Many of them will have settled now, have lives, families, jobs and friends ect. Why would they bother returning?
The same hypothosis applies to why displaced Albanians don't bother returning to Kosovo either.
(Ian, UK, 28 November 2012 10:35)

I am afraid a lot of Serbian refugees live in Serbia in poor conditions.

There would be great solution if a lot of KAlbs had emigrated to the West in 1999, got jobs, friends, families there and didn't want to return to the Balkans, let alone Kosovo.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

“The Republic of Serbia will insist on the implementation of the agreed solutions on a joint border management through presence and executive role of EULEX on the administrative line,” the Serbian foreign minister noted.

border is a border, so what is the phrase "administrative line"?

koko

pre 11 godina

"“The Republic of Serbia will insist on the implementation of the agreed solutions on a joint border management through presence and executive role of EULEX on the administrative line,” the Serbian foreign minister noted."

Serbs insisting on a border. Probably would even threaten war just to have that border now. Nice job.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 11 godina

Here we go again with the Croatian catholic priest Lenard preaching the Serbs about crimes but forgets that his compatriots are No 1 when it comes to crimes.Get a job Lenard,hate is not going to get you anywhere.

Njeri

pre 11 godina

Serbs should move back to Serbia or even better to Siberia. They dont beling in Kosova because Kosova is Albanian land and will allways remain so.


If serbs want to move to Kosova they should respect the native people of Kosova the Albanians and learn the Albanian language to make sure they can live there.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"the Serbs did barbarous heinous criminality on armed countries civilians on a scale and criminality not paralleled or seen in Europe since WW2."

Lenard

How convenient Lenard to draw the line "AFTER WW2". Why not go back another 3-4 years? Who commited the biggest crime in Europe then - Germany and Croatia, Let me remind you! Jasenovac! 700.000 serbs, roma and jew killed. Who are you trying to fool with your propaganda? You think people don't know better? You are just pathetic you fascist.

AcaVeliki

pre 11 godina

Ian, maybe if Albanians didn't harrass, threaten, or even worse, murder, more displaced Kosovo Serbs would return? As for Albanians returning, most of Kosovo is populated by them, so if they do not return, it is simply because they do not want to. I mean really, would you go back to Kosovo?

sj

pre 11 godina

(Lenard, 28 November 2012 23:15)

Like many Croats you have a tunnel vision of history. In the early stages of WW2 the partisans were nearly all serbs from Croatia and Bosnia and very few catholic croats. It was not until it became evident that the croats were on the losing side that the numbers increased with Tito. Why even your Franjo Tudgman was with the Ustashi and jumped ship to Tito. In fact Tito gave him a special task to take care of the captives at Blieburg and it was Tudjman that was in charge of the execution squads that killed you Ustashi.

War does make some people do terrible things, but your Croats murdered in the thousands during WW2 – it was planned and its called genocide mate. There is a differcne between acts of an individual or groups of individuals and what you Croats did.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

If serbs want to move to Kosova they should respect the native people of Kosova the Albanians and learn the Albanian language to make sure they can live there.
(Njeri, 28 November 2012 18:28)

People are speaking about those Serbs who are native people of Kosovo but were expelled from there.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Lenard

How convenient Lenard to draw the line "AFTER WW2". Why not go back another 3-4 years? Jasenovac! 700.000 serbs, roma and jew killed. Who are you trying to fool with your propaganda.
(MikeC, 28 November 2012 19:54) It was a horrible crime MikeC in no way do I approve of the crime. As for the 700,000 victims that's not true. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) in Washington, D.C. presently estimates that the Ustaša regime murdered between 77,000 and 99,000 people in Jasenovac between 1941 and 1945. The Jasenovac Memorial Site quotes a similar figure of between 80,000 and 100,000 victims. The NDH was founded on 10 April 1941, after the invasion of Yugoslavia by the Axis powers. The NDH consisted of most of modern day Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, together with some parts of modern-day Serbia. It was essentially an Italo-German quasi-protectorate, as it owed its existence to the Axis powers, who maintained occupation forces within the puppet state throughout its existence. That was when the democratically elected Croatian government refused to cooperator with the Nazi Italian & German regimes then they installed the criminal Ustase arrested the democratic Croatia government.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Mike to continue. They were also killed Croatians that opposed them Croatians made 37 of the 80 partisan divisions in ex Yugoslavia. Croatians at that time made only 25% of ex Yugo population and the supreme commander was Tito a Croatian. We can go back to Serbia and chetniks also war crimes to WW1 that appalled the word at that time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_the_Balkan_Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_World_War_II#Ethnic_cleansing Serbia has many skeletons in its closet and crimes against humanity. So don't give me the holier then tho attitude it will not wash Mike.

sj

pre 11 godina

You wanna bet Ivan Mrkić.
(Avni, 28 November 2012 16:02)

Ivan may not but I am more than willing. Here is a guarantee – institutions in the north remain and Pristina cannot do a thing – NOTHING.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Like many Croats you have a tunnel vision of history. In the early stages of WW2 the partisans were nearly all serbs from Croatia and Bosnia and very few catholic croats. Ya sure SJ it is the opposite what you say here are the figures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans .

sj

pre 11 godina

(Lenard, 29 November 2012 09:29)
Lenny Wikipedia is a very poor reference source; you know what source means? No its not part of a meal.
Now your Wiki does not have the fact that Ante Pavelic was part of a delegation pleading with the Serbs to become part of the new Yugoslavia – not Wiki no have that one.
Wiki no have the fact that Tito called little Franjo Tudjman his best pupil – no Wiki no have that. Sadly Wiki talk about Croatians but make no difference between your grandfather and Serbs or Roma or Jews living in that region so they all Croatians. Remember that you have to take head out of ar** before opening mouth.

Remember head out of ar**.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Commenting on acquittal of Croat Generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač, the Serbian minister said that it would have a negative effect on the reconciliation process in the region and stressed that “it shocked both Serbia and many law experts worldwide”. Man Serbs are drama queens and many law experts worldwide ya rite. What the world is shocked about what the Serbs did barbarous heinous criminality on armed countries civilians on a scale and criminality not paralleled or seen in Europe since WW2. Serb reconciliation and doing rite is a another pie in the sky Serb exclusionary pretentiousness.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

“The Republic of Serbia will insist on the implementation of the agreed solutions on a joint border management through presence and executive role of EULEX on the administrative line,” the Serbian foreign minister noted.

border is a border, so what is the phrase "administrative line"?

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

"He said that the process of the return of the internally displaced persons to Kosovo was a “slow process characterized by a low level of sustainability” and explained that, according to the latest figures for 2012, a mere 285 Serbs returned to Kosovo and testifying to the trend of continued decrease of the number of returns."

Maybe that is because many of the Serbs willing to return have done so already?
I can't imagine many of the displaced Serbs from Kosovo who currently live in US or EU countries or Norway-Switzerland wanting to return to the Balkans, never mind Kosovo.
Many of them will have settled now, have lives, families, jobs and friends ect. Why would they bother returning?
The same hypothosis applies to why displaced Albanians don't bother returning to Kosovo either.

koko

pre 11 godina

"“The Republic of Serbia will insist on the implementation of the agreed solutions on a joint border management through presence and executive role of EULEX on the administrative line,” the Serbian foreign minister noted."

Serbs insisting on a border. Probably would even threaten war just to have that border now. Nice job.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Maybe that is because many of the Serbs willing to return have done so already?
I can't imagine many of the displaced Serbs from Kosovo who currently live in US or EU countries or Norway-Switzerland wanting to return to the Balkans, never mind Kosovo.
Many of them will have settled now, have lives, families, jobs and friends ect. Why would they bother returning?
The same hypothosis applies to why displaced Albanians don't bother returning to Kosovo either.
(Ian, UK, 28 November 2012 10:35)

I am afraid a lot of Serbian refugees live in Serbia in poor conditions.

There would be great solution if a lot of KAlbs had emigrated to the West in 1999, got jobs, friends, families there and didn't want to return to the Balkans, let alone Kosovo.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

There would be great solution if a lot of KAlbs had emigrated to the West in 1999, got jobs, friends, families there and didn't want to return to the Balkans, let alone Kosovo.
(aaayyy, 28 November 2012 12:28)

They did, there is around 300,000 of K-Albanians in Germany and another 200,000 K-Albanians in Switzerland who emigrated there in the 1990s due to poor living conditions and lack of human rights.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 11 godina

Here we go again with the Croatian catholic priest Lenard preaching the Serbs about crimes but forgets that his compatriots are No 1 when it comes to crimes.Get a job Lenard,hate is not going to get you anywhere.

Njeri

pre 11 godina

Serbs should move back to Serbia or even better to Siberia. They dont beling in Kosova because Kosova is Albanian land and will allways remain so.


If serbs want to move to Kosova they should respect the native people of Kosova the Albanians and learn the Albanian language to make sure they can live there.

AcaVeliki

pre 11 godina

Ian, maybe if Albanians didn't harrass, threaten, or even worse, murder, more displaced Kosovo Serbs would return? As for Albanians returning, most of Kosovo is populated by them, so if they do not return, it is simply because they do not want to. I mean really, would you go back to Kosovo?

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

If serbs want to move to Kosova they should respect the native people of Kosova the Albanians and learn the Albanian language to make sure they can live there.
(Njeri, 28 November 2012 18:28)

People are speaking about those Serbs who are native people of Kosovo but were expelled from there.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Mike to continue. They were also killed Croatians that opposed them Croatians made 37 of the 80 partisan divisions in ex Yugoslavia. Croatians at that time made only 25% of ex Yugo population and the supreme commander was Tito a Croatian. We can go back to Serbia and chetniks also war crimes to WW1 that appalled the word at that time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_the_Balkan_Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_World_War_II#Ethnic_cleansing Serbia has many skeletons in its closet and crimes against humanity. So don't give me the holier then tho attitude it will not wash Mike.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"the Serbs did barbarous heinous criminality on armed countries civilians on a scale and criminality not paralleled or seen in Europe since WW2."

Lenard

How convenient Lenard to draw the line "AFTER WW2". Why not go back another 3-4 years? Who commited the biggest crime in Europe then - Germany and Croatia, Let me remind you! Jasenovac! 700.000 serbs, roma and jew killed. Who are you trying to fool with your propaganda? You think people don't know better? You are just pathetic you fascist.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Lenard

How convenient Lenard to draw the line "AFTER WW2". Why not go back another 3-4 years? Jasenovac! 700.000 serbs, roma and jew killed. Who are you trying to fool with your propaganda.
(MikeC, 28 November 2012 19:54) It was a horrible crime MikeC in no way do I approve of the crime. As for the 700,000 victims that's not true. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) in Washington, D.C. presently estimates that the Ustaša regime murdered between 77,000 and 99,000 people in Jasenovac between 1941 and 1945. The Jasenovac Memorial Site quotes a similar figure of between 80,000 and 100,000 victims. The NDH was founded on 10 April 1941, after the invasion of Yugoslavia by the Axis powers. The NDH consisted of most of modern day Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, together with some parts of modern-day Serbia. It was essentially an Italo-German quasi-protectorate, as it owed its existence to the Axis powers, who maintained occupation forces within the puppet state throughout its existence. That was when the democratically elected Croatian government refused to cooperator with the Nazi Italian & German regimes then they installed the criminal Ustase arrested the democratic Croatia government.

sj

pre 11 godina

(Lenard, 28 November 2012 23:15)

Like many Croats you have a tunnel vision of history. In the early stages of WW2 the partisans were nearly all serbs from Croatia and Bosnia and very few catholic croats. It was not until it became evident that the croats were on the losing side that the numbers increased with Tito. Why even your Franjo Tudgman was with the Ustashi and jumped ship to Tito. In fact Tito gave him a special task to take care of the captives at Blieburg and it was Tudjman that was in charge of the execution squads that killed you Ustashi.

War does make some people do terrible things, but your Croats murdered in the thousands during WW2 – it was planned and its called genocide mate. There is a differcne between acts of an individual or groups of individuals and what you Croats did.

sj

pre 11 godina

You wanna bet Ivan Mrkić.
(Avni, 28 November 2012 16:02)

Ivan may not but I am more than willing. Here is a guarantee – institutions in the north remain and Pristina cannot do a thing – NOTHING.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Like many Croats you have a tunnel vision of history. In the early stages of WW2 the partisans were nearly all serbs from Croatia and Bosnia and very few catholic croats. Ya sure SJ it is the opposite what you say here are the figures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans .

sj

pre 11 godina

(Lenard, 29 November 2012 09:29)
Lenny Wikipedia is a very poor reference source; you know what source means? No its not part of a meal.
Now your Wiki does not have the fact that Ante Pavelic was part of a delegation pleading with the Serbs to become part of the new Yugoslavia – not Wiki no have that one.
Wiki no have the fact that Tito called little Franjo Tudjman his best pupil – no Wiki no have that. Sadly Wiki talk about Croatians but make no difference between your grandfather and Serbs or Roma or Jews living in that region so they all Croatians. Remember that you have to take head out of ar** before opening mouth.

Remember head out of ar**.