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Monday, 26.11.2012.

10:32

"This government is not fanatical about EU"

President Tomislav Nikolić's adviser Oliver Antić has said that the EU's actions so far lead to the conclusion that it does not want Serbia as a part of it.

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sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 27 November 2012 14:40)


Yes Serbia is poor and that is a statement I back away from. It has to chase money to survive considering its economy was destroyed and has to start from scratch. There are several reasons why I say this money will end up as aid with the most important of all being that Serbia will be faithful to both the Chinese and Russians.

Let me say it again these loans will be used for infrastructure and I am glad the Chinese are doing the work because that is how aid functions. The Russians are not going to allow their money to be pocketed by greedy indivuals either.

Im not sure if any real news gets to the US but last time I looked most of the EU falls into the charity barrel from Greece, Spain, Ireland Portugal Italy and the latest addition France to go up in smoke early next year or in simple terms BROKE. The UK can also be included as it now owes 85% of GDP with 1 in 5 unemployed. Germany is in recession and its unemployment is rising fast.

During this depression they wont jump out of windows because people like you (taxpayers) end up picking up the bill – look at the 2 trillion borrowed for the toxic loans and within a years bankers were paying themselves bonuses. They really have you guys in the US hypnotised.

The BMW is very cheap in Malaysia as corpations pay very little tax.

The Chinese hold over 400 000 ounces at the moment and I’m not sure just how much the Russians actually hold now.

pss

pre 11 godina

Yes you can live off loans but the time comes when the music stops.
(sj, 27 November 2012 12:02)
You say this after defending the fact that Serbia has been busier than a street beggar chasing anyone that has a nickle. I don't quite understand where you say the China and Russian loans are aid and won't be paid back. Most charity states do end up with their loans being forgiven but that is because they remain charity states and have not built their economy. Is that what you see in Serbia??
You say that the US is unable to export?? I would say that 1.4 trillion in exports begs to differ. I realize that is nothing compared to Serbia but alas we try.
Since your vehicle is part of your salary package are you not worried that when the financial crisis hits and you are called in because your job is being deleted that you will have to take a taxi home? During the great depression in the US many in the financial sector leaped to their death from tall buildings.
I on the other hand own my car, not the bank, and as far as my job, as long as there are people, there will be a need.

Any support for your claims of who owns the most gold?? Of course I am asking for a 1st, to date you have not been able to support any statement you have made.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 27 November 2012 10:47)

I’ll let you into a secret the BMW does not belong to me. Its part of my salary package, but if your government does not stop spending your car will turn into a donkey. China has for several years been buying gold and between the Russians and Chinese they now hold the largest amount of this precious metal in the world. This is to ensure that their currency remains strong. For a long time now it’s been evident that the Chinese are maintaining the US dollar to protect the Yuan from increasing in value, but while they doing that the US has been unable to export because what little they produce is just too expensive – you also have to take into account that the US economy is 80% consumer based rather than producing items for sale.
The US is dying on its feet and its no secret. You cant keep on borrowing $1 trillion every year just to keep afloat. In simple terms if you earned $500 and you were spending $700 per week; something has to give. Yes you can live off loans but the time comes when the music stops.

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 26 November 2012 23:17)
There is one big difference between us, I live in the US and see the reality. You are living a dream and grasping at anything that will show the destruction of America.
I am glad that you will not actually get your dream even though I would like to know how long it would take for your "BMW" to become a ricksaw. hehe
Suddenly you quit singing the China praises as the domino effect of the downturn in the west is rolling in. Don't believe everything you read in the backstreet Malaysian press.
But if as you try to make everyone believe, America is dead and powerless, why does it consume so much of your interest. Because in reality you know if Americans do not eat, you do not eat.

sj

pre 11 godina

The author sees a brighter future for Poland than you do.
(Amer, 26 November 2012 22:47)

Basically, Thailand and the Philippines main source of foreign currency is from sending their people to work overseas and prostitution.

Sri Lanka, the author must be joking. Its people are leaving in their hundreds in the hope of getting to Australia. It will take another 70 years to make anything happen in that country.

Nigeria??? Are you joking? Its one of the richest oil producing countries, but in its main city sewage run out into the street and the road system is abysmal to say the least. If they started to day it would take them 70 years.

Turkey; don’t hold your breath there as the Islamist will screw that country up in a very short time. Indonesia is better but not that much better. It gets billions in foreign aid from Australia otherwise it could not afford to buy Australian cattle.

Poland- the experts used exactly the same words right after it joined the EU. But why do so many of Polish people have to look for jobs outside of their country 20 years after bliss???? I like the Poles, but the truth is the truth.

So many articles talk up situations when in reality its moved nowhere.

Real Canadian

pre 11 godina

To js and the other js (probably twins lol).
Serbia has 1.3% of Germany's GDP if that, and around 0.3% of US. Just imagine if they went down what would happen to the rest of us. Food for thought.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 26 November 2012 15:15)

Firstly how much of the lower parts of New Orleans has been rebuilt? Little to nothing. How much of the infrastructure was rebuilt or repaired in a similar storm a couple of years ago in the NY region? About the same as in New Orleans. Its people like you that walk around and see little to nothing; no they did not repair all the bridges or roads. Plenty have been closed because it would mean they would have to build brand new infrastructure and not just repair. Yes I know TV tells you differently and yes I know only the US can print and print money without it ever having a bad side affect– is it any wonder that Canadians make it a point of making sure they are not mistaken for Americans.

This laon money will be used for infrastructure – roads and railways etc. Now the Chinese; yes they will supply the labour because Serbia does not have the people or skills to do all of this work and that is how aid works. I have no problems with that; let me repeat it again for you. This is aid and will never be repaid, but how much has the west sunk in Kosovo? That should be an interesting response.

Please continue your BS all you like but that topic no one dares broach is not going away since US debt is now 17 trillion and rising and there is nothing in Obama’s discussions to reduce it soon. Or should I say it voodoo economics where they will cut their spending by 2 trillion over 10 years but they already borrow 1 trillion per year.

Amer

pre 11 godina

@(sj, 26 November 2012 13:59)


"Look at Poland, after 20 years of living in bliss it hasn’t moved much – its people still work outside their borders and send money back. "

Ok, look at it (in the current issue of Foreign Policy - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/the_new_breakout_nations -
Title: "The New Breakout Nations. Forget the BRICs. Meet seven unheralded countries to watch."

One of which is Poland.


"5. Poland: Poland, which entered the European Union in 2004, is a case study of a country in the "sweet spot" -- the period after a member state enters the EU but before it adopts the euro." And so on.

The author sees a brighter future for Poland than you do.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

For those who are my critics, and who know that I wrote the Correct Things, I would say save it for the Gullible.

The Fact that I have such Desperate Critics; proves they know that I am Correct.

It is Easier to Try, than to say that it cannot be done, and it is Easier to Stand, than to turn around and Run.

Stand Firm Against The Nazis Of Europe, Until Every Trace Of Nazism Has Been Totally Eradicated From Europe – Always Remember That You Are A Serb.

Germany needs to understand that after this Righteous Filing of a genocide Lawsuit against Germany, and the accompanying Global Education Campaign, then All Countries will boycott all of Germany’s Good and Services, and Germany will never rise again to menace Europe.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"Germany needs to understand that Germany will go down with Serbia, and this time Germany will never rise again, because Serbia will have Billions for this Global Campaign, and Armenia may to the same to Turkey, but Serbia will survive, and thrive."
(Yet Another J S, 26 November 2012 13:15)

That's the proof: Some people live in a parallel universe of anti-matter where everything is exactly the opposite of the universe we are living in :)

pss

pre 11 godina

I drive a BMW you don’t!.
(sj, 26 November 2012 13:59)
And how do you know what I drive, you only see people who are living above their means brag about what kind of car they drive. By the way was it made in 1900s, or the 2000's?
I am not worried about the infrastructure in New York, I remember a year or so ago you talking about the US not being able to rebuild bridges wiped out in the storm but all done.
You live in a world between Eastern propaganda towards the west and your own imagination.
Read back a couple of days the Russian loan is 4%, still good but on 800 million 2% is a huge difference. But the interest is only minor, the fact that you have to pump the bulk of the money back into the Russian and China economies is the major problem. What is it the last 2 loans from China came with the requirement that 50% of the work must be done by Chinese companies. So not only do you take the money and turn around and hand back half of it, then you get to pay interest and principal on the money you just gave them.
And you can say anything you like as nothing you could say would "frighten" me. I think I have developed a pretty good bs meter and it always goes to high on your posts.

pss

pre 11 godina

(Yet Another J S, 26 November 2012 13:15)
One huge dynamic problem with your post! BRICS is a union of EMERGING economies. So far I do not think they have even hinted at having charities such as Serbia to join them and raid their coffers.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 26 November 2012 12:58)

No the Us economy is fine and everything is OK so now you can rest easily as no one will frighten you with bad news about the financial cliff opps I shouldn’t have mentioned that one
I have asked this same question over and over “what are the advantages of Serbia joining the EU?” Only to be met with the same old diatribe of nonsense you can find on the EU websites about freedom of movement of people and labor and industries which create wealth and increase trading opportunities ….. and so on. Not one could explain it in simple terms because no one knows the so called benefits. In fact the small countries in the EU will have the bigger players dump their products in their markets while they can’t compete. Look at Poland, after 20 years of living in bliss it hasn’t moved much – its people still work outside their borders and send money back.
Those loans are not really loans as they are at 2% per year. I look at corruption through the world and a fair chunk lives in the west, but they always point the finger somewhere else to avert attention saying nasty Chinese or Russians, but you don’t have to be worried what happens to those loan moneys I’d be more concerned about all the infrastructure not being repaired or replaced in the State of New York after the inclement weather you recently had.
Anytime you see Kosovo as a great place to live please move there.
I drive a BMW you don’t!.

EA

pre 11 godina

What a megaloman, like his boss! Nothing has changed in Serbian leasership. This guy dare to put pressure on Courts....If I follow this idiot's logic and assume Haradinaj is found guiltythe Albanians can say fhe decision was taken "under Serbia's pressure"?

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

It is Alright to use the word Germany, when speaking of the greatest threat to Europe.

Germany can only be type of humanized by Conquest, and I think that Anglo-America and BRICS both realize the German problem, and how things were better with Europe divided between East and West.

Obviously, those same boundaries are not applicable, the Baltic States or Poland Not being with BRICS, but the poorer Eastern European and several Balkan Countries can join up with BRICS, while the others are with Anglo-France, and Germany must become 16 Countries with 16 different Constitutions, and 16 different Election Days.

If Greece, which invented Democracy, together with Serbia, and maybe others Countries will Default on all of their Loans, and if they File Genocide Charges against Germany, then BRICS Monetary Fund will give them a Loan.

Perhaps Greece can just threaten this in order to gain a Fair Deal from Germany who invented the Euro to commit Genocide in Europe, and Serbia has no choice but to Default on ALL IMF, WB, and EIB Loans.

Serbia conducts the Global Genocide Case against Germany, with Anglo-France can be next, unless they agree to divide Continental Europe, and make each16 German State into a new Country.

Germany needs to understand that Germany will go down with Serbia, and this time Germany will never rise again, because Serbia will have Billions for this Global Campaign, and Armenia may to the same to Turkey, but Serbia will survive, and thrive.

sj

pre 11 godina

There is nothing new in this revelation that the new government is cold about joining the EU. It is now becoming clearer by the day that the government is going in the opposite direction and this is sending fear in Brussels as they are powerless to change this new policy. The EU had only one hold on Serbia in that joining the EU requires recognition, but now that is gone Kosovo is dead and will remain so for as long as Belgrade wishes.
There are other reasons for the change in direction such as the EU is no longer on its knees but flat on its back as France is the next bailout on the list and all indications are that this will happen early next year. So where are the benefits in joining? Nothing at all as even Croatia found out when Milanovic went to Berlin to plead with their masters to ensure they get the same amount as the other countries on joining the EU – reply was a big no as the money has run out.
Now to Kosovo; what do you think will happen there? If they think life is hard now wait till the new year when even more cuts to the EU budgets occur – Kosovo is going to make Somalia look like Shangri-La. But you never know the US might open up a factory or two ???? how about it Washington? They are your allies after all??? LOL as they don’t give a s*** about Kosova.LOL
By turning away from the EU Serbia is on the right road for a change.

pss

pre 11 godina

By turning away from the EU Serbia is on the right road for a change.
(sj, 26 November 2012 12:10)
Of course you forget to tackle the issue of without joining the EU what hope does Serbia have of repaying the huge loans it is getting from Russia and China? With huge percentages of the money going back into the pockets of the countries that are making the loans and then more going into the pockets of politicians (you don't really buy the anti-corruption campaign do you? It is merely getting rid of political enemies and changes pockets for the money). Very little is left to spend on jobs and building an economy in Serbia.
As bad as you make the future of Kosovo out to be, I am amazed Serbia is not running away from it with lightening speed.
I enjoy listening to someone riding the bus criticizing the kind of car someone else is driving.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Exactly. Hitler's willing executioners-Croats, Muslims & Albanians are now foaming at the mouth for Serbia to be wiped off the map completely and Germany is thus far heeding the calls as pay back for the fingers in the eye the Serbs' gave to German imperial ambitions of both world wars.

It is our fault though. There is enough Serbs in Germany to form a solid voting block and to truly lobby for Serbian interests in the West. Our failure to organize and unite is 100% at fault here.

You can't blame the Germans and Americans for being wolves.
You can't blame the Albanians and Croatians for being hyenas and vultures.

It is our fault. Awareness is the main thing here. Nothing is written in stone no matter what they try to tell you (otherwise Merkel, Biden, Clinton, Ashton wouldn't be in Belgrade and Kosovo*USA, Adri, Lenard, Ian, EA wouldn't be on b92) It can be fixed!

Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence!

Sa Verom u Boga
(Ari Gold, 26 November 2012 11:04)

Per Godwin's Law, there is no credibility in your argument.

Not to mention that you're deluded, no-one wants "for Serbia to be wiped off the map".

And this comment "Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence" just proves how mad and paranoid you are.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

"In essence a powerful EU member, and it is known which one, has exerted a strong influence and embraced its loyal allies from World War Two, while others are rejected. The trouble is that our allies do not have the strength and awareness to see what is being done," Antić told the Večernje Novosti daily.

Exactly. Hitler's willing executioners-Croats, Muslims & Albanians are now foaming at the mouth for Serbia to be wiped off the map completely and Germany is thus far heeding the calls as pay back for the fingers in the eye the Serbs' gave to German imperial ambitions of both world wars.

It is our fault though. There is enough Serbs in Germany to form a solid voting block and to truly lobby for Serbian interests in the West. Our failure to organize and unite is 100% at fault here.

You can't blame the Germans and Americans for being wolves.
You can't blame the Albanians and Croatians for being hyenas and vultures.

It is our fault. Awareness is the main thing here. Nothing is written in stone no matter what they try to tell you (otherwise Merkel, Biden, Clinton, Ashton wouldn't be in Belgrade and Kosovo*USA, Adri, Lenard, Ian, EA wouldn't be on b92) It can be fixed!

Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence!

Sa Verom u Boga

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

"In essence a powerful EU member, and it is known which one, has exerted a strong influence and embraced its loyal allies from World War Two, while others are rejected. The trouble is that our allies do not have the strength and awareness to see what is being done," Antić told the Večernje Novosti daily.

Exactly. Hitler's willing executioners-Croats, Muslims & Albanians are now foaming at the mouth for Serbia to be wiped off the map completely and Germany is thus far heeding the calls as pay back for the fingers in the eye the Serbs' gave to German imperial ambitions of both world wars.

It is our fault though. There is enough Serbs in Germany to form a solid voting block and to truly lobby for Serbian interests in the West. Our failure to organize and unite is 100% at fault here.

You can't blame the Germans and Americans for being wolves.
You can't blame the Albanians and Croatians for being hyenas and vultures.

It is our fault. Awareness is the main thing here. Nothing is written in stone no matter what they try to tell you (otherwise Merkel, Biden, Clinton, Ashton wouldn't be in Belgrade and Kosovo*USA, Adri, Lenard, Ian, EA wouldn't be on b92) It can be fixed!

Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence!

Sa Verom u Boga

sj

pre 11 godina

There is nothing new in this revelation that the new government is cold about joining the EU. It is now becoming clearer by the day that the government is going in the opposite direction and this is sending fear in Brussels as they are powerless to change this new policy. The EU had only one hold on Serbia in that joining the EU requires recognition, but now that is gone Kosovo is dead and will remain so for as long as Belgrade wishes.
There are other reasons for the change in direction such as the EU is no longer on its knees but flat on its back as France is the next bailout on the list and all indications are that this will happen early next year. So where are the benefits in joining? Nothing at all as even Croatia found out when Milanovic went to Berlin to plead with their masters to ensure they get the same amount as the other countries on joining the EU – reply was a big no as the money has run out.
Now to Kosovo; what do you think will happen there? If they think life is hard now wait till the new year when even more cuts to the EU budgets occur – Kosovo is going to make Somalia look like Shangri-La. But you never know the US might open up a factory or two ???? how about it Washington? They are your allies after all??? LOL as they don’t give a s*** about Kosova.LOL
By turning away from the EU Serbia is on the right road for a change.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

It is Alright to use the word Germany, when speaking of the greatest threat to Europe.

Germany can only be type of humanized by Conquest, and I think that Anglo-America and BRICS both realize the German problem, and how things were better with Europe divided between East and West.

Obviously, those same boundaries are not applicable, the Baltic States or Poland Not being with BRICS, but the poorer Eastern European and several Balkan Countries can join up with BRICS, while the others are with Anglo-France, and Germany must become 16 Countries with 16 different Constitutions, and 16 different Election Days.

If Greece, which invented Democracy, together with Serbia, and maybe others Countries will Default on all of their Loans, and if they File Genocide Charges against Germany, then BRICS Monetary Fund will give them a Loan.

Perhaps Greece can just threaten this in order to gain a Fair Deal from Germany who invented the Euro to commit Genocide in Europe, and Serbia has no choice but to Default on ALL IMF, WB, and EIB Loans.

Serbia conducts the Global Genocide Case against Germany, with Anglo-France can be next, unless they agree to divide Continental Europe, and make each16 German State into a new Country.

Germany needs to understand that Germany will go down with Serbia, and this time Germany will never rise again, because Serbia will have Billions for this Global Campaign, and Armenia may to the same to Turkey, but Serbia will survive, and thrive.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Exactly. Hitler's willing executioners-Croats, Muslims & Albanians are now foaming at the mouth for Serbia to be wiped off the map completely and Germany is thus far heeding the calls as pay back for the fingers in the eye the Serbs' gave to German imperial ambitions of both world wars.

It is our fault though. There is enough Serbs in Germany to form a solid voting block and to truly lobby for Serbian interests in the West. Our failure to organize and unite is 100% at fault here.

You can't blame the Germans and Americans for being wolves.
You can't blame the Albanians and Croatians for being hyenas and vultures.

It is our fault. Awareness is the main thing here. Nothing is written in stone no matter what they try to tell you (otherwise Merkel, Biden, Clinton, Ashton wouldn't be in Belgrade and Kosovo*USA, Adri, Lenard, Ian, EA wouldn't be on b92) It can be fixed!

Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence!

Sa Verom u Boga
(Ari Gold, 26 November 2012 11:04)

Per Godwin's Law, there is no credibility in your argument.

Not to mention that you're deluded, no-one wants "for Serbia to be wiped off the map".

And this comment "Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence" just proves how mad and paranoid you are.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 26 November 2012 12:58)

No the Us economy is fine and everything is OK so now you can rest easily as no one will frighten you with bad news about the financial cliff opps I shouldn’t have mentioned that one
I have asked this same question over and over “what are the advantages of Serbia joining the EU?” Only to be met with the same old diatribe of nonsense you can find on the EU websites about freedom of movement of people and labor and industries which create wealth and increase trading opportunities ….. and so on. Not one could explain it in simple terms because no one knows the so called benefits. In fact the small countries in the EU will have the bigger players dump their products in their markets while they can’t compete. Look at Poland, after 20 years of living in bliss it hasn’t moved much – its people still work outside their borders and send money back.
Those loans are not really loans as they are at 2% per year. I look at corruption through the world and a fair chunk lives in the west, but they always point the finger somewhere else to avert attention saying nasty Chinese or Russians, but you don’t have to be worried what happens to those loan moneys I’d be more concerned about all the infrastructure not being repaired or replaced in the State of New York after the inclement weather you recently had.
Anytime you see Kosovo as a great place to live please move there.
I drive a BMW you don’t!.

pss

pre 11 godina

(Yet Another J S, 26 November 2012 13:15)
One huge dynamic problem with your post! BRICS is a union of EMERGING economies. So far I do not think they have even hinted at having charities such as Serbia to join them and raid their coffers.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"Germany needs to understand that Germany will go down with Serbia, and this time Germany will never rise again, because Serbia will have Billions for this Global Campaign, and Armenia may to the same to Turkey, but Serbia will survive, and thrive."
(Yet Another J S, 26 November 2012 13:15)

That's the proof: Some people live in a parallel universe of anti-matter where everything is exactly the opposite of the universe we are living in :)

pss

pre 11 godina

By turning away from the EU Serbia is on the right road for a change.
(sj, 26 November 2012 12:10)
Of course you forget to tackle the issue of without joining the EU what hope does Serbia have of repaying the huge loans it is getting from Russia and China? With huge percentages of the money going back into the pockets of the countries that are making the loans and then more going into the pockets of politicians (you don't really buy the anti-corruption campaign do you? It is merely getting rid of political enemies and changes pockets for the money). Very little is left to spend on jobs and building an economy in Serbia.
As bad as you make the future of Kosovo out to be, I am amazed Serbia is not running away from it with lightening speed.
I enjoy listening to someone riding the bus criticizing the kind of car someone else is driving.

EA

pre 11 godina

What a megaloman, like his boss! Nothing has changed in Serbian leasership. This guy dare to put pressure on Courts....If I follow this idiot's logic and assume Haradinaj is found guiltythe Albanians can say fhe decision was taken "under Serbia's pressure"?

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

For those who are my critics, and who know that I wrote the Correct Things, I would say save it for the Gullible.

The Fact that I have such Desperate Critics; proves they know that I am Correct.

It is Easier to Try, than to say that it cannot be done, and it is Easier to Stand, than to turn around and Run.

Stand Firm Against The Nazis Of Europe, Until Every Trace Of Nazism Has Been Totally Eradicated From Europe – Always Remember That You Are A Serb.

Germany needs to understand that after this Righteous Filing of a genocide Lawsuit against Germany, and the accompanying Global Education Campaign, then All Countries will boycott all of Germany’s Good and Services, and Germany will never rise again to menace Europe.

pss

pre 11 godina

I drive a BMW you don’t!.
(sj, 26 November 2012 13:59)
And how do you know what I drive, you only see people who are living above their means brag about what kind of car they drive. By the way was it made in 1900s, or the 2000's?
I am not worried about the infrastructure in New York, I remember a year or so ago you talking about the US not being able to rebuild bridges wiped out in the storm but all done.
You live in a world between Eastern propaganda towards the west and your own imagination.
Read back a couple of days the Russian loan is 4%, still good but on 800 million 2% is a huge difference. But the interest is only minor, the fact that you have to pump the bulk of the money back into the Russian and China economies is the major problem. What is it the last 2 loans from China came with the requirement that 50% of the work must be done by Chinese companies. So not only do you take the money and turn around and hand back half of it, then you get to pay interest and principal on the money you just gave them.
And you can say anything you like as nothing you could say would "frighten" me. I think I have developed a pretty good bs meter and it always goes to high on your posts.

Amer

pre 11 godina

@(sj, 26 November 2012 13:59)


"Look at Poland, after 20 years of living in bliss it hasn’t moved much – its people still work outside their borders and send money back. "

Ok, look at it (in the current issue of Foreign Policy - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/the_new_breakout_nations -
Title: "The New Breakout Nations. Forget the BRICs. Meet seven unheralded countries to watch."

One of which is Poland.


"5. Poland: Poland, which entered the European Union in 2004, is a case study of a country in the "sweet spot" -- the period after a member state enters the EU but before it adopts the euro." And so on.

The author sees a brighter future for Poland than you do.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 26 November 2012 15:15)

Firstly how much of the lower parts of New Orleans has been rebuilt? Little to nothing. How much of the infrastructure was rebuilt or repaired in a similar storm a couple of years ago in the NY region? About the same as in New Orleans. Its people like you that walk around and see little to nothing; no they did not repair all the bridges or roads. Plenty have been closed because it would mean they would have to build brand new infrastructure and not just repair. Yes I know TV tells you differently and yes I know only the US can print and print money without it ever having a bad side affect– is it any wonder that Canadians make it a point of making sure they are not mistaken for Americans.

This laon money will be used for infrastructure – roads and railways etc. Now the Chinese; yes they will supply the labour because Serbia does not have the people or skills to do all of this work and that is how aid works. I have no problems with that; let me repeat it again for you. This is aid and will never be repaid, but how much has the west sunk in Kosovo? That should be an interesting response.

Please continue your BS all you like but that topic no one dares broach is not going away since US debt is now 17 trillion and rising and there is nothing in Obama’s discussions to reduce it soon. Or should I say it voodoo economics where they will cut their spending by 2 trillion over 10 years but they already borrow 1 trillion per year.

sj

pre 11 godina

The author sees a brighter future for Poland than you do.
(Amer, 26 November 2012 22:47)

Basically, Thailand and the Philippines main source of foreign currency is from sending their people to work overseas and prostitution.

Sri Lanka, the author must be joking. Its people are leaving in their hundreds in the hope of getting to Australia. It will take another 70 years to make anything happen in that country.

Nigeria??? Are you joking? Its one of the richest oil producing countries, but in its main city sewage run out into the street and the road system is abysmal to say the least. If they started to day it would take them 70 years.

Turkey; don’t hold your breath there as the Islamist will screw that country up in a very short time. Indonesia is better but not that much better. It gets billions in foreign aid from Australia otherwise it could not afford to buy Australian cattle.

Poland- the experts used exactly the same words right after it joined the EU. But why do so many of Polish people have to look for jobs outside of their country 20 years after bliss???? I like the Poles, but the truth is the truth.

So many articles talk up situations when in reality its moved nowhere.

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 26 November 2012 23:17)
There is one big difference between us, I live in the US and see the reality. You are living a dream and grasping at anything that will show the destruction of America.
I am glad that you will not actually get your dream even though I would like to know how long it would take for your "BMW" to become a ricksaw. hehe
Suddenly you quit singing the China praises as the domino effect of the downturn in the west is rolling in. Don't believe everything you read in the backstreet Malaysian press.
But if as you try to make everyone believe, America is dead and powerless, why does it consume so much of your interest. Because in reality you know if Americans do not eat, you do not eat.

Real Canadian

pre 11 godina

To js and the other js (probably twins lol).
Serbia has 1.3% of Germany's GDP if that, and around 0.3% of US. Just imagine if they went down what would happen to the rest of us. Food for thought.

pss

pre 11 godina

Yes you can live off loans but the time comes when the music stops.
(sj, 27 November 2012 12:02)
You say this after defending the fact that Serbia has been busier than a street beggar chasing anyone that has a nickle. I don't quite understand where you say the China and Russian loans are aid and won't be paid back. Most charity states do end up with their loans being forgiven but that is because they remain charity states and have not built their economy. Is that what you see in Serbia??
You say that the US is unable to export?? I would say that 1.4 trillion in exports begs to differ. I realize that is nothing compared to Serbia but alas we try.
Since your vehicle is part of your salary package are you not worried that when the financial crisis hits and you are called in because your job is being deleted that you will have to take a taxi home? During the great depression in the US many in the financial sector leaped to their death from tall buildings.
I on the other hand own my car, not the bank, and as far as my job, as long as there are people, there will be a need.

Any support for your claims of who owns the most gold?? Of course I am asking for a 1st, to date you have not been able to support any statement you have made.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 27 November 2012 14:40)


Yes Serbia is poor and that is a statement I back away from. It has to chase money to survive considering its economy was destroyed and has to start from scratch. There are several reasons why I say this money will end up as aid with the most important of all being that Serbia will be faithful to both the Chinese and Russians.

Let me say it again these loans will be used for infrastructure and I am glad the Chinese are doing the work because that is how aid functions. The Russians are not going to allow their money to be pocketed by greedy indivuals either.

Im not sure if any real news gets to the US but last time I looked most of the EU falls into the charity barrel from Greece, Spain, Ireland Portugal Italy and the latest addition France to go up in smoke early next year or in simple terms BROKE. The UK can also be included as it now owes 85% of GDP with 1 in 5 unemployed. Germany is in recession and its unemployment is rising fast.

During this depression they wont jump out of windows because people like you (taxpayers) end up picking up the bill – look at the 2 trillion borrowed for the toxic loans and within a years bankers were paying themselves bonuses. They really have you guys in the US hypnotised.

The BMW is very cheap in Malaysia as corpations pay very little tax.

The Chinese hold over 400 000 ounces at the moment and I’m not sure just how much the Russians actually hold now.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 27 November 2012 10:47)

I’ll let you into a secret the BMW does not belong to me. Its part of my salary package, but if your government does not stop spending your car will turn into a donkey. China has for several years been buying gold and between the Russians and Chinese they now hold the largest amount of this precious metal in the world. This is to ensure that their currency remains strong. For a long time now it’s been evident that the Chinese are maintaining the US dollar to protect the Yuan from increasing in value, but while they doing that the US has been unable to export because what little they produce is just too expensive – you also have to take into account that the US economy is 80% consumer based rather than producing items for sale.
The US is dying on its feet and its no secret. You cant keep on borrowing $1 trillion every year just to keep afloat. In simple terms if you earned $500 and you were spending $700 per week; something has to give. Yes you can live off loans but the time comes when the music stops.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Exactly. Hitler's willing executioners-Croats, Muslims & Albanians are now foaming at the mouth for Serbia to be wiped off the map completely and Germany is thus far heeding the calls as pay back for the fingers in the eye the Serbs' gave to German imperial ambitions of both world wars.

It is our fault though. There is enough Serbs in Germany to form a solid voting block and to truly lobby for Serbian interests in the West. Our failure to organize and unite is 100% at fault here.

You can't blame the Germans and Americans for being wolves.
You can't blame the Albanians and Croatians for being hyenas and vultures.

It is our fault. Awareness is the main thing here. Nothing is written in stone no matter what they try to tell you (otherwise Merkel, Biden, Clinton, Ashton wouldn't be in Belgrade and Kosovo*USA, Adri, Lenard, Ian, EA wouldn't be on b92) It can be fixed!

Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence!

Sa Verom u Boga
(Ari Gold, 26 November 2012 11:04)

Per Godwin's Law, there is no credibility in your argument.

Not to mention that you're deluded, no-one wants "for Serbia to be wiped off the map".

And this comment "Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence" just proves how mad and paranoid you are.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

"In essence a powerful EU member, and it is known which one, has exerted a strong influence and embraced its loyal allies from World War Two, while others are rejected. The trouble is that our allies do not have the strength and awareness to see what is being done," Antić told the Večernje Novosti daily.

Exactly. Hitler's willing executioners-Croats, Muslims & Albanians are now foaming at the mouth for Serbia to be wiped off the map completely and Germany is thus far heeding the calls as pay back for the fingers in the eye the Serbs' gave to German imperial ambitions of both world wars.

It is our fault though. There is enough Serbs in Germany to form a solid voting block and to truly lobby for Serbian interests in the West. Our failure to organize and unite is 100% at fault here.

You can't blame the Germans and Americans for being wolves.
You can't blame the Albanians and Croatians for being hyenas and vultures.

It is our fault. Awareness is the main thing here. Nothing is written in stone no matter what they try to tell you (otherwise Merkel, Biden, Clinton, Ashton wouldn't be in Belgrade and Kosovo*USA, Adri, Lenard, Ian, EA wouldn't be on b92) It can be fixed!

Don't believe our weaker neighbors. Only united in their hatred of Serbs and strong imperial backing can they even hold a candle to our strength and intelligence!

Sa Verom u Boga

pss

pre 11 godina

By turning away from the EU Serbia is on the right road for a change.
(sj, 26 November 2012 12:10)
Of course you forget to tackle the issue of without joining the EU what hope does Serbia have of repaying the huge loans it is getting from Russia and China? With huge percentages of the money going back into the pockets of the countries that are making the loans and then more going into the pockets of politicians (you don't really buy the anti-corruption campaign do you? It is merely getting rid of political enemies and changes pockets for the money). Very little is left to spend on jobs and building an economy in Serbia.
As bad as you make the future of Kosovo out to be, I am amazed Serbia is not running away from it with lightening speed.
I enjoy listening to someone riding the bus criticizing the kind of car someone else is driving.

EA

pre 11 godina

What a megaloman, like his boss! Nothing has changed in Serbian leasership. This guy dare to put pressure on Courts....If I follow this idiot's logic and assume Haradinaj is found guiltythe Albanians can say fhe decision was taken "under Serbia's pressure"?

pss

pre 11 godina

(Yet Another J S, 26 November 2012 13:15)
One huge dynamic problem with your post! BRICS is a union of EMERGING economies. So far I do not think they have even hinted at having charities such as Serbia to join them and raid their coffers.

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

It is Alright to use the word Germany, when speaking of the greatest threat to Europe.

Germany can only be type of humanized by Conquest, and I think that Anglo-America and BRICS both realize the German problem, and how things were better with Europe divided between East and West.

Obviously, those same boundaries are not applicable, the Baltic States or Poland Not being with BRICS, but the poorer Eastern European and several Balkan Countries can join up with BRICS, while the others are with Anglo-France, and Germany must become 16 Countries with 16 different Constitutions, and 16 different Election Days.

If Greece, which invented Democracy, together with Serbia, and maybe others Countries will Default on all of their Loans, and if they File Genocide Charges against Germany, then BRICS Monetary Fund will give them a Loan.

Perhaps Greece can just threaten this in order to gain a Fair Deal from Germany who invented the Euro to commit Genocide in Europe, and Serbia has no choice but to Default on ALL IMF, WB, and EIB Loans.

Serbia conducts the Global Genocide Case against Germany, with Anglo-France can be next, unless they agree to divide Continental Europe, and make each16 German State into a new Country.

Germany needs to understand that Germany will go down with Serbia, and this time Germany will never rise again, because Serbia will have Billions for this Global Campaign, and Armenia may to the same to Turkey, but Serbia will survive, and thrive.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 26 November 2012 12:58)

No the Us economy is fine and everything is OK so now you can rest easily as no one will frighten you with bad news about the financial cliff opps I shouldn’t have mentioned that one
I have asked this same question over and over “what are the advantages of Serbia joining the EU?” Only to be met with the same old diatribe of nonsense you can find on the EU websites about freedom of movement of people and labor and industries which create wealth and increase trading opportunities ….. and so on. Not one could explain it in simple terms because no one knows the so called benefits. In fact the small countries in the EU will have the bigger players dump their products in their markets while they can’t compete. Look at Poland, after 20 years of living in bliss it hasn’t moved much – its people still work outside their borders and send money back.
Those loans are not really loans as they are at 2% per year. I look at corruption through the world and a fair chunk lives in the west, but they always point the finger somewhere else to avert attention saying nasty Chinese or Russians, but you don’t have to be worried what happens to those loan moneys I’d be more concerned about all the infrastructure not being repaired or replaced in the State of New York after the inclement weather you recently had.
Anytime you see Kosovo as a great place to live please move there.
I drive a BMW you don’t!.

sj

pre 11 godina

There is nothing new in this revelation that the new government is cold about joining the EU. It is now becoming clearer by the day that the government is going in the opposite direction and this is sending fear in Brussels as they are powerless to change this new policy. The EU had only one hold on Serbia in that joining the EU requires recognition, but now that is gone Kosovo is dead and will remain so for as long as Belgrade wishes.
There are other reasons for the change in direction such as the EU is no longer on its knees but flat on its back as France is the next bailout on the list and all indications are that this will happen early next year. So where are the benefits in joining? Nothing at all as even Croatia found out when Milanovic went to Berlin to plead with their masters to ensure they get the same amount as the other countries on joining the EU – reply was a big no as the money has run out.
Now to Kosovo; what do you think will happen there? If they think life is hard now wait till the new year when even more cuts to the EU budgets occur – Kosovo is going to make Somalia look like Shangri-La. But you never know the US might open up a factory or two ???? how about it Washington? They are your allies after all??? LOL as they don’t give a s*** about Kosova.LOL
By turning away from the EU Serbia is on the right road for a change.

pss

pre 11 godina

I drive a BMW you don’t!.
(sj, 26 November 2012 13:59)
And how do you know what I drive, you only see people who are living above their means brag about what kind of car they drive. By the way was it made in 1900s, or the 2000's?
I am not worried about the infrastructure in New York, I remember a year or so ago you talking about the US not being able to rebuild bridges wiped out in the storm but all done.
You live in a world between Eastern propaganda towards the west and your own imagination.
Read back a couple of days the Russian loan is 4%, still good but on 800 million 2% is a huge difference. But the interest is only minor, the fact that you have to pump the bulk of the money back into the Russian and China economies is the major problem. What is it the last 2 loans from China came with the requirement that 50% of the work must be done by Chinese companies. So not only do you take the money and turn around and hand back half of it, then you get to pay interest and principal on the money you just gave them.
And you can say anything you like as nothing you could say would "frighten" me. I think I have developed a pretty good bs meter and it always goes to high on your posts.

J.Oker

pre 11 godina

"Germany needs to understand that Germany will go down with Serbia, and this time Germany will never rise again, because Serbia will have Billions for this Global Campaign, and Armenia may to the same to Turkey, but Serbia will survive, and thrive."
(Yet Another J S, 26 November 2012 13:15)

That's the proof: Some people live in a parallel universe of anti-matter where everything is exactly the opposite of the universe we are living in :)

Yet Another J S

pre 11 godina

For those who are my critics, and who know that I wrote the Correct Things, I would say save it for the Gullible.

The Fact that I have such Desperate Critics; proves they know that I am Correct.

It is Easier to Try, than to say that it cannot be done, and it is Easier to Stand, than to turn around and Run.

Stand Firm Against The Nazis Of Europe, Until Every Trace Of Nazism Has Been Totally Eradicated From Europe – Always Remember That You Are A Serb.

Germany needs to understand that after this Righteous Filing of a genocide Lawsuit against Germany, and the accompanying Global Education Campaign, then All Countries will boycott all of Germany’s Good and Services, and Germany will never rise again to menace Europe.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 26 November 2012 15:15)

Firstly how much of the lower parts of New Orleans has been rebuilt? Little to nothing. How much of the infrastructure was rebuilt or repaired in a similar storm a couple of years ago in the NY region? About the same as in New Orleans. Its people like you that walk around and see little to nothing; no they did not repair all the bridges or roads. Plenty have been closed because it would mean they would have to build brand new infrastructure and not just repair. Yes I know TV tells you differently and yes I know only the US can print and print money without it ever having a bad side affect– is it any wonder that Canadians make it a point of making sure they are not mistaken for Americans.

This laon money will be used for infrastructure – roads and railways etc. Now the Chinese; yes they will supply the labour because Serbia does not have the people or skills to do all of this work and that is how aid works. I have no problems with that; let me repeat it again for you. This is aid and will never be repaid, but how much has the west sunk in Kosovo? That should be an interesting response.

Please continue your BS all you like but that topic no one dares broach is not going away since US debt is now 17 trillion and rising and there is nothing in Obama’s discussions to reduce it soon. Or should I say it voodoo economics where they will cut their spending by 2 trillion over 10 years but they already borrow 1 trillion per year.

Real Canadian

pre 11 godina

To js and the other js (probably twins lol).
Serbia has 1.3% of Germany's GDP if that, and around 0.3% of US. Just imagine if they went down what would happen to the rest of us. Food for thought.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 27 November 2012 10:47)

I’ll let you into a secret the BMW does not belong to me. Its part of my salary package, but if your government does not stop spending your car will turn into a donkey. China has for several years been buying gold and between the Russians and Chinese they now hold the largest amount of this precious metal in the world. This is to ensure that their currency remains strong. For a long time now it’s been evident that the Chinese are maintaining the US dollar to protect the Yuan from increasing in value, but while they doing that the US has been unable to export because what little they produce is just too expensive – you also have to take into account that the US economy is 80% consumer based rather than producing items for sale.
The US is dying on its feet and its no secret. You cant keep on borrowing $1 trillion every year just to keep afloat. In simple terms if you earned $500 and you were spending $700 per week; something has to give. Yes you can live off loans but the time comes when the music stops.

Amer

pre 11 godina

@(sj, 26 November 2012 13:59)


"Look at Poland, after 20 years of living in bliss it hasn’t moved much – its people still work outside their borders and send money back. "

Ok, look at it (in the current issue of Foreign Policy - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/the_new_breakout_nations -
Title: "The New Breakout Nations. Forget the BRICs. Meet seven unheralded countries to watch."

One of which is Poland.


"5. Poland: Poland, which entered the European Union in 2004, is a case study of a country in the "sweet spot" -- the period after a member state enters the EU but before it adopts the euro." And so on.

The author sees a brighter future for Poland than you do.

sj

pre 11 godina

The author sees a brighter future for Poland than you do.
(Amer, 26 November 2012 22:47)

Basically, Thailand and the Philippines main source of foreign currency is from sending their people to work overseas and prostitution.

Sri Lanka, the author must be joking. Its people are leaving in their hundreds in the hope of getting to Australia. It will take another 70 years to make anything happen in that country.

Nigeria??? Are you joking? Its one of the richest oil producing countries, but in its main city sewage run out into the street and the road system is abysmal to say the least. If they started to day it would take them 70 years.

Turkey; don’t hold your breath there as the Islamist will screw that country up in a very short time. Indonesia is better but not that much better. It gets billions in foreign aid from Australia otherwise it could not afford to buy Australian cattle.

Poland- the experts used exactly the same words right after it joined the EU. But why do so many of Polish people have to look for jobs outside of their country 20 years after bliss???? I like the Poles, but the truth is the truth.

So many articles talk up situations when in reality its moved nowhere.

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 26 November 2012 23:17)
There is one big difference between us, I live in the US and see the reality. You are living a dream and grasping at anything that will show the destruction of America.
I am glad that you will not actually get your dream even though I would like to know how long it would take for your "BMW" to become a ricksaw. hehe
Suddenly you quit singing the China praises as the domino effect of the downturn in the west is rolling in. Don't believe everything you read in the backstreet Malaysian press.
But if as you try to make everyone believe, America is dead and powerless, why does it consume so much of your interest. Because in reality you know if Americans do not eat, you do not eat.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 27 November 2012 14:40)


Yes Serbia is poor and that is a statement I back away from. It has to chase money to survive considering its economy was destroyed and has to start from scratch. There are several reasons why I say this money will end up as aid with the most important of all being that Serbia will be faithful to both the Chinese and Russians.

Let me say it again these loans will be used for infrastructure and I am glad the Chinese are doing the work because that is how aid functions. The Russians are not going to allow their money to be pocketed by greedy indivuals either.

Im not sure if any real news gets to the US but last time I looked most of the EU falls into the charity barrel from Greece, Spain, Ireland Portugal Italy and the latest addition France to go up in smoke early next year or in simple terms BROKE. The UK can also be included as it now owes 85% of GDP with 1 in 5 unemployed. Germany is in recession and its unemployment is rising fast.

During this depression they wont jump out of windows because people like you (taxpayers) end up picking up the bill – look at the 2 trillion borrowed for the toxic loans and within a years bankers were paying themselves bonuses. They really have you guys in the US hypnotised.

The BMW is very cheap in Malaysia as corpations pay very little tax.

The Chinese hold over 400 000 ounces at the moment and I’m not sure just how much the Russians actually hold now.

pss

pre 11 godina

Yes you can live off loans but the time comes when the music stops.
(sj, 27 November 2012 12:02)
You say this after defending the fact that Serbia has been busier than a street beggar chasing anyone that has a nickle. I don't quite understand where you say the China and Russian loans are aid and won't be paid back. Most charity states do end up with their loans being forgiven but that is because they remain charity states and have not built their economy. Is that what you see in Serbia??
You say that the US is unable to export?? I would say that 1.4 trillion in exports begs to differ. I realize that is nothing compared to Serbia but alas we try.
Since your vehicle is part of your salary package are you not worried that when the financial crisis hits and you are called in because your job is being deleted that you will have to take a taxi home? During the great depression in the US many in the financial sector leaped to their death from tall buildings.
I on the other hand own my car, not the bank, and as far as my job, as long as there are people, there will be a need.

Any support for your claims of who owns the most gold?? Of course I am asking for a 1st, to date you have not been able to support any statement you have made.