N. Kosovo Serbs announce protests against crossings deal

represent an establishement of the inter-state border between Kosovo and central Serbia.

That is correct.
These northern guys should hope on buses and go to Belgrade to protest, since Belgrade sold them out.

"Political leaders from the north say.... represent an establishement of the inter-state border between Kosovo and central Serbia."

So they know it...Well done!

Whenever I get disillusioned, I read comments from EA and Kosovo*USA, there immense fear of Serbs and Serbia is so great that they clock in full time hours on a Serbian forum (and other ones too, not just B92) for the simple fact they are insecure and realize their occupation is in doubt unless Serbia accepts the occupation as legitimate.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you. You give me strength to better myself so that I can make a difference one day. Your fear and Ian, UK's & Lenard's burning obsession for Serbs help me in those tough days. Thanks guys :)

S'bogom,
Ari
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 13:15)

What obsession???

And what tough days do you encounter? As a Yank, a tough day for you is using all that effort going all the way to McDonalds to find out it is closed because of Hurricane Sandy. All that wasted effort and unnecessary excerise! Bloody typical! What are you supposed to eat now?

Ian, you are obsessed with the Serbian people. You make it a point to come on here everyday and post way more than I do. I am Serbian, therefore its understandable why I come on here. The Albanians are largely in/from Serbia and realize better than Serbs that Serbia's final say on Kosovo i Metohija matters the most.........but you, either a Serbian man took your woman or a Serbian woman rejected you.

Judging by the facebook you sent us of you, can you really blame her?
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:10)

Honestly I am not obsessed with Serbian people. I post comments on the international news sections mainly.

"either a Serbian man took your woman or a Serbian woman rejected you" is that the only explanation you can think of as to why I read B92? I for some reason read B92 because apparently got reject by a Serb lass or a Serb took a lass from me? Do you know how stupid that seems? I read lots of international news, not just b92. And you still haven't added me on facebook yet, I know you have facebook. Please add me, I want to see how fat you are.

http://www.facebook.com/ijanderson

You make it a point to come on here everyday and post way more than I do. I am Serbian, therefore its understandable why I come on here.
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:10)

Why are you attacking Ian so unconstructively, is it really that hard for you to belive that people in the world actually support us albanians, take a look at the countries that support the kosovar proclaimed independence and you will find that every singel democracy in the world supports us. On this site you have an advantage because i unlike you get censored in every single reply and it seems like you can write what ever you like without being censored and that is providing you with that false sense of being superior but you are in no way superior to me neither in a knowledge- or a moral based manner. Well i guess i shouldnt expect unbiasedness on this site.

Well the nazi couldnt but albanians can, thats exactly whats happening. Its time for this ancient people to reclaim whats theirs.

@Ari Gold

I can see the disappointment in your comment even though you tried to sound tough. We got what we wanted the boarder will be there.

Cheers

Furthermore you Ari Gold and Peggy take the price in cheap replies you are just plain childish. I understand you (serb) point of view you feel like you are not understood and that the albanians are simply trying to steal your "holy land" im happy to be free of those religious illusion and shackles that are destroying our world. And no matter how much your leaders try to portray albanians as muslim militants while at the same time your leaders kiss the arab leaders in the a** my one and only region is being albanian. And your god that you always refer to, that god must be the one living under our feet because what you have done against your fellow mankind is just plain said horrific. Its true that Albanians have always protested and been a pain in the a** for mainland serbia but what you do not understand is that you made us protest, its you who never gave us any space to live in peacefully. With Ibrahim Rugova we tried for decades the peaceful way but that gave us nothing but more death. The albanian protesters where not militants, they were ordinary unarmed people trying to curb the extreme unfair treatment. Thousands and thousands of albanians have died at the hand of serb rule and yet today we are offering serbs what you never offerd us, you have one choice take whats being offered or leave and the looks of it is that you are not taking whats beeing offered i guess we will have an serb free albanian nation to my delight.

Ari,Why are surprised that another person from another nationality supports Albanians view? It is irrelevant to what a person nationality is. In my opinion he supports what he believes is right. Now because he doesn't support your position and you don't like it then its your problem. And the only argument you can conjure is that a Serbian chick dumped him, for why he is against Serbians? What are you 12? I seldom post, but do follow B92-English because I feel its a good source of news concerning Serbia. And because it is in English, a lot of nationalities that don't understand Srpski do come here and post their opinions on it. And your comments just like some others here are too far out even to comment on it.
And yes I am an Albanian. But I had not, have not and will not have any hate for Serbs (the people). Just hate their feelings of being superior to others around them. Trust me y'all ain’t superior, Serbia is just another Balkan country trying to get by.

Except you need helicopters to get from the occupational checkpoint to occupied Kosovo i Metohija
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:08)

great, thanks for the suggested solution... even that problem is therefore solved and the border can be established

The only thing Serbia could do to more recognize Kosovo independence is remove it from the constitution and this deal is like that. It is almost a total recognition of Kosovo independence. It is not even arguable. Belgrade is recognizing Kosovo independence. Changing words does nit change what an action means.

I must say that I admire these resiliant serbs. Life under albanian rule must be a horrible thing if you constantly put up barricades and demonstrate your unwillingness to be ruled by a people who not long ago tried to copy Operation Storm.
(T.M, 22 November 2012 18:02)

The Serbs in the North are not under Pristina's administration.

And yes life must be horrible for the Serbs south of the Ibar, having to work and pay taxes ect. If only their lives were like those in that lawless paradise wild west in the north where they don't pay taxes, don't work, get away with crimes, divert money into their personal banks which is meant for infastructure and they get to stand around all day being nationalist pretending to be victimized. And the best bit is they get paid to do this. Yes life must be tough having to work and pay taxes under Pristina's rule!

If ian is an englishman from uk then I am from mars. And no the whole world doesn't support you only the governments not the people. And you repaid even your big brother usa by launching terrorist attacks against them on their soil. And not long ago an alban killed some us soldiers in germany, did you forget about that?
(Ratko, 22 November 2012 16:58)

I dont care what national Ian is, for me its irrelevant. And i did not say that the whole world supports us i said that the democratic world supports us. And sick individuals are among us all no matter nationality thats something that you especially should be well accented with, bringing up the sick albanian individuals make no sense, but thats your way of discrediting us, make it sound like its everyday life for us albanians.

Well the nazi couldnt but albanians can, thats exactly whats happening. Its time for this ancient people to reclaim whats theirs.
(Nori, 22 November 2012 12:51)

Did you just happily compare your people to Nazis? LMAO.

What obsession???

And what tough days do you encounter? As a Yank, a tough day for you is using all that effort going all the way to McDonalds to find out it is closed because of Hurricane Sandy. All that wasted effort and unnecessary excerise! Bloody typical! What are you supposed to eat now?
(Ian, UK, 22 November 2012 14:11)

Ian, you are obsessed with the Serbian people. You make it a point to come on here everyday and post way more than I do. I am Serbian, therefore its understandable why I come on here. The Albanians are largely in/from Serbia and realize better than Serbs that Serbia's final say on Kosovo i Metohija matters the most.........but you, either a Serbian man took your woman or a Serbian woman rejected you.

Judging by the facebook you sent us of you, can you really blame her?

What obsession???

And what tough days do you encounter? As a Yank, a tough day for you is using all that effort going all the way to McDonalds to find out it is closed because of Hurricane Sandy. All that wasted effort and unnecessary excerise! Bloody typical! What are you supposed to eat now?
(Ian, UK, 22 November 2012 14:11)

I would eat your queen and mate you.

If ian is an englishman from uk then I am from mars. And no the whole world doesn't support you only the governments not the people. And you repaid even your big brother usa by launching terrorist attacks against them on their soil. And not long ago an alban killed some us soldiers in germany, did you forget about that?
(Ratko, 22 November 2012 16:58)

Looks like you're from Mars then.

Whenever I get disillusioned, I read comments from EA and Kosovo*USA, there immense fear of Serbs and Serbia is so great that they clock in full time hours on a Serbian forum (and other ones too, not just B92) for the simple fact they are insecure and realize their occupation is in doubt unless Serbia accepts the occupation as legitimate.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you. You give me strength to better myself so that I can make a difference one day. Your fear and Ian, UK's & Lenard's burning obsession for Serbs help me in those tough days. Thanks guys :)

S'bogom,
Ari

It is sometimes hard not to feel sorry for the poor, naive West.
It seems the wise men from the western capitals have never asked themselves what a border is for.
Up there in the far north, underneath Kopaonik, they are forced to build a border to divide the same people from each other.
Further south, they are forced to take down a border that divides people who hate each other.
Because borders must never change, the West has to go along with something which cannot work - the unity of Kosovo in 1974 borders.
Observing this with glee, calculating what benefit there can be to his country, waiting to swallow up Abkhazia and Ossetia while refusing Chechens the right to form their own state, is the odious Chekist Putin.

Sad days for everybody...

I must say that I admire these resiliant serbs. Life under albanian rule must be a horrible thing if you constantly put up barricades and demonstrate your unwillingness to be ruled by a people who not long ago tried to copy Operation Storm.

I can see the disappointment in your comment even though you tried to sound tough. We got what we wanted the boarder will be there.

Cheers
(Mendo, 22 November 2012 14:37)

Except you need helicopters to get from the occupational checkpoint to occupied Kosovo i Metohija because stands in your way is the unoccupied zone which you tried to get rid of in July 2011 but were met with an embarrassing defeat that resulted in one dead and a retreat back to the drug hub Pristina.

I my friend am not disappointed, but you will face similar disappointments to July 2011 if you keep at it ;) Like I said you and your lot's very presence on these forums affirms your fear in Serbia, the much stronger and more superior of the two peoples on Kosovo i Metohija.

S'bogom,
Ari

Judging by the facebook you sent us of you, can you really blame her?
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:10)

The only thing that comes to my mind is how superficially some folk view others. Your focus on the material
reflects your own shallowness and present inability (or wish not to) see deeply into yourself and your fellow
humans. Actually, it's a little child's view. One day though, my brother, your own thoughtless meanness will force you to grow up. Y'all that think like that about other folk best be rethinking your ways.

@ nori

If ian is an englishman from uk then I am from mars. And no the whole world doesn't support you only the governments not the people. And you repaid even your big brother usa by launching terrorist attacks against them on their soil. And not long ago an alban killed some us soldiers in germany, did you forget about that?

Ari,Why are surprised that another person from another nationality supports Albanians view? It is irrelevant to what a person nationality is. In my opinion he supports what he believes is right. Now because he doesn't support your position and you don't like it then its your problem. And the only argument you can conjure is that a Serbian chick dumped him, for why he is against Serbians? What are you 12?
================================

Actually nobody takes it seriously when Ian is being accused of being dumped by a Serbian girl. This is just having a bit of fun at Ian's expense.
The reason nobody believes that he doesn't have any Albanian blood in him is because nobody who is an outsider would display such hatred towards the Serbs. He tries to hide it but just like Roberto it comes through. I can understand someone who is of another nationality disagreeing with Serbs and even supporting Albanian position but Ian goes way beyond that. He is here all the time closing his eyes to any Albanian crime and never ever finding it in his heart to actually acknowledge that Serbs were ethnically cleansed, murdered and still get murdered.
This is not the way someone who has no personal stake behaves.
He is personally invested in this, that much is obvious, so the question remains, WHY?
He obviously has Albanian in his background.

Peggy, I have added him on Facebook, and chatted with him. He has no Albanian friends there. I am the only one. If he had an Albanian background, he would have some Albanian friends or “relatives” added there. There are none.
And its not that he is inconsiderate of Serbian views, its just that they are just mainly plain wrong. I am Albanian and I have NO hatred towards Serbs. According to your statement because I am Albanian, I should harbor hatred toward Serbs? And you being Serbian, should hate me because of my background?

Whenever I get disillusioned, I read comments from EA and Kosovo*USA, there immense fear of Serbs and Serbia is so great that they clock in full time hours on a Serbian forum (and other ones too, not just B92) for the simple fact they are insecure and realize their occupation is in doubt unless Serbia accepts the occupation as legitimate.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you. You give me strength to better myself so that I can make a difference one day. Your fear and Ian, UK's & Lenard's burning obsession for Serbs help me in those tough days. Thanks guys :)

S'bogom,
Ari

Well the nazi couldnt but albanians can, thats exactly whats happening. Its time for this ancient people to reclaim whats theirs.
(Nori, 22 November 2012 12:51)

Did you just happily compare your people to Nazis? LMAO.

What obsession???

And what tough days do you encounter? As a Yank, a tough day for you is using all that effort going all the way to McDonalds to find out it is closed because of Hurricane Sandy. All that wasted effort and unnecessary excerise! Bloody typical! What are you supposed to eat now?
(Ian, UK, 22 November 2012 14:11)

Ian, you are obsessed with the Serbian people. You make it a point to come on here everyday and post way more than I do. I am Serbian, therefore its understandable why I come on here. The Albanians are largely in/from Serbia and realize better than Serbs that Serbia's final say on Kosovo i Metohija matters the most.........but you, either a Serbian man took your woman or a Serbian woman rejected you.

Judging by the facebook you sent us of you, can you really blame her?

I can see the disappointment in your comment even though you tried to sound tough. We got what we wanted the boarder will be there.

Cheers
(Mendo, 22 November 2012 14:37)

Except you need helicopters to get from the occupational checkpoint to occupied Kosovo i Metohija because stands in your way is the unoccupied zone which you tried to get rid of in July 2011 but were met with an embarrassing defeat that resulted in one dead and a retreat back to the drug hub Pristina.

I my friend am not disappointed, but you will face similar disappointments to July 2011 if you keep at it ;) Like I said you and your lot's very presence on these forums affirms your fear in Serbia, the much stronger and more superior of the two peoples on Kosovo i Metohija.

S'bogom,
Ari

@ nori

If ian is an englishman from uk then I am from mars. And no the whole world doesn't support you only the governments not the people. And you repaid even your big brother usa by launching terrorist attacks against them on their soil. And not long ago an alban killed some us soldiers in germany, did you forget about that?

Well the nazi couldnt but albanians can, thats exactly whats happening. Its time for this ancient people to reclaim whats theirs.

What obsession???

And what tough days do you encounter? As a Yank, a tough day for you is using all that effort going all the way to McDonalds to find out it is closed because of Hurricane Sandy. All that wasted effort and unnecessary excerise! Bloody typical! What are you supposed to eat now?
(Ian, UK, 22 November 2012 14:11)

I would eat your queen and mate you.

You make it a point to come on here everyday and post way more than I do. I am Serbian, therefore its understandable why I come on here.
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:10)

Why are you attacking Ian so unconstructively, is it really that hard for you to belive that people in the world actually support us albanians, take a look at the countries that support the kosovar proclaimed independence and you will find that every singel democracy in the world supports us. On this site you have an advantage because i unlike you get censored in every single reply and it seems like you can write what ever you like without being censored and that is providing you with that false sense of being superior but you are in no way superior to me neither in a knowledge- or a moral based manner. Well i guess i shouldnt expect unbiasedness on this site.

I must say that I admire these resiliant serbs. Life under albanian rule must be a horrible thing if you constantly put up barricades and demonstrate your unwillingness to be ruled by a people who not long ago tried to copy Operation Storm.

represent an establishement of the inter-state border between Kosovo and central Serbia.

That is correct.
These northern guys should hope on buses and go to Belgrade to protest, since Belgrade sold them out.

"Political leaders from the north say.... represent an establishement of the inter-state border between Kosovo and central Serbia."

So they know it...Well done!

Whenever I get disillusioned, I read comments from EA and Kosovo*USA, there immense fear of Serbs and Serbia is so great that they clock in full time hours on a Serbian forum (and other ones too, not just B92) for the simple fact they are insecure and realize their occupation is in doubt unless Serbia accepts the occupation as legitimate.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you. You give me strength to better myself so that I can make a difference one day. Your fear and Ian, UK's & Lenard's burning obsession for Serbs help me in those tough days. Thanks guys :)

S'bogom,
Ari
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 13:15)

What obsession???

And what tough days do you encounter? As a Yank, a tough day for you is using all that effort going all the way to McDonalds to find out it is closed because of Hurricane Sandy. All that wasted effort and unnecessary excerise! Bloody typical! What are you supposed to eat now?

It is sometimes hard not to feel sorry for the poor, naive West.
It seems the wise men from the western capitals have never asked themselves what a border is for.
Up there in the far north, underneath Kopaonik, they are forced to build a border to divide the same people from each other.
Further south, they are forced to take down a border that divides people who hate each other.
Because borders must never change, the West has to go along with something which cannot work - the unity of Kosovo in 1974 borders.
Observing this with glee, calculating what benefit there can be to his country, waiting to swallow up Abkhazia and Ossetia while refusing Chechens the right to form their own state, is the odious Chekist Putin.

Sad days for everybody...

Furthermore you Ari Gold and Peggy take the price in cheap replies you are just plain childish. I understand you (serb) point of view you feel like you are not understood and that the albanians are simply trying to steal your "holy land" im happy to be free of those religious illusion and shackles that are destroying our world. And no matter how much your leaders try to portray albanians as muslim militants while at the same time your leaders kiss the arab leaders in the a** my one and only region is being albanian. And your god that you always refer to, that god must be the one living under our feet because what you have done against your fellow mankind is just plain said horrific. Its true that Albanians have always protested and been a pain in the a** for mainland serbia but what you do not understand is that you made us protest, its you who never gave us any space to live in peacefully. With Ibrahim Rugova we tried for decades the peaceful way but that gave us nothing but more death. The albanian protesters where not militants, they were ordinary unarmed people trying to curb the extreme unfair treatment. Thousands and thousands of albanians have died at the hand of serb rule and yet today we are offering serbs what you never offerd us, you have one choice take whats being offered or leave and the looks of it is that you are not taking whats beeing offered i guess we will have an serb free albanian nation to my delight.

If ian is an englishman from uk then I am from mars. And no the whole world doesn't support you only the governments not the people. And you repaid even your big brother usa by launching terrorist attacks against them on their soil. And not long ago an alban killed some us soldiers in germany, did you forget about that?
(Ratko, 22 November 2012 16:58)

I dont care what national Ian is, for me its irrelevant. And i did not say that the whole world supports us i said that the democratic world supports us. And sick individuals are among us all no matter nationality thats something that you especially should be well accented with, bringing up the sick albanian individuals make no sense, but thats your way of discrediting us, make it sound like its everyday life for us albanians.

Judging by the facebook you sent us of you, can you really blame her?
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:10)

The only thing that comes to my mind is how superficially some folk view others. Your focus on the material
reflects your own shallowness and present inability (or wish not to) see deeply into yourself and your fellow
humans. Actually, it's a little child's view. One day though, my brother, your own thoughtless meanness will force you to grow up. Y'all that think like that about other folk best be rethinking your ways.

Except you need helicopters to get from the occupational checkpoint to occupied Kosovo i Metohija
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:08)

great, thanks for the suggested solution... even that problem is therefore solved and the border can be established

Ian, you are obsessed with the Serbian people. You make it a point to come on here everyday and post way more than I do. I am Serbian, therefore its understandable why I come on here. The Albanians are largely in/from Serbia and realize better than Serbs that Serbia's final say on Kosovo i Metohija matters the most.........but you, either a Serbian man took your woman or a Serbian woman rejected you.

Judging by the facebook you sent us of you, can you really blame her?
(Ari Gold, 22 November 2012 15:10)

Honestly I am not obsessed with Serbian people. I post comments on the international news sections mainly.

"either a Serbian man took your woman or a Serbian woman rejected you" is that the only explanation you can think of as to why I read B92? I for some reason read B92 because apparently got reject by a Serb lass or a Serb took a lass from me? Do you know how stupid that seems? I read lots of international news, not just b92. And you still haven't added me on facebook yet, I know you have facebook. Please add me, I want to see how fat you are.

http://www.facebook.com/ijanderson

Ari,Why are surprised that another person from another nationality supports Albanians view? It is irrelevant to what a person nationality is. In my opinion he supports what he believes is right. Now because he doesn't support your position and you don't like it then its your problem. And the only argument you can conjure is that a Serbian chick dumped him, for why he is against Serbians? What are you 12? I seldom post, but do follow B92-English because I feel its a good source of news concerning Serbia. And because it is in English, a lot of nationalities that don't understand Srpski do come here and post their opinions on it. And your comments just like some others here are too far out even to comment on it.
And yes I am an Albanian. But I had not, have not and will not have any hate for Serbs (the people). Just hate their feelings of being superior to others around them. Trust me y'all ain’t superior, Serbia is just another Balkan country trying to get by.

I must say that I admire these resiliant serbs. Life under albanian rule must be a horrible thing if you constantly put up barricades and demonstrate your unwillingness to be ruled by a people who not long ago tried to copy Operation Storm.
(T.M, 22 November 2012 18:02)

The Serbs in the North are not under Pristina's administration.

And yes life must be horrible for the Serbs south of the Ibar, having to work and pay taxes ect. If only their lives were like those in that lawless paradise wild west in the north where they don't pay taxes, don't work, get away with crimes, divert money into their personal banks which is meant for infastructure and they get to stand around all day being nationalist pretending to be victimized. And the best bit is they get paid to do this. Yes life must be tough having to work and pay taxes under Pristina's rule!

If ian is an englishman from uk then I am from mars. And no the whole world doesn't support you only the governments not the people. And you repaid even your big brother usa by launching terrorist attacks against them on their soil. And not long ago an alban killed some us soldiers in germany, did you forget about that?
(Ratko, 22 November 2012 16:58)

Looks like you're from Mars then.

@Ari Gold

I can see the disappointment in your comment even though you tried to sound tough. We got what we wanted the boarder will be there.

Cheers

The only thing Serbia could do to more recognize Kosovo independence is remove it from the constitution and this deal is like that. It is almost a total recognition of Kosovo independence. It is not even arguable. Belgrade is recognizing Kosovo independence. Changing words does nit change what an action means.

Ari,Why are surprised that another person from another nationality supports Albanians view? It is irrelevant to what a person nationality is. In my opinion he supports what he believes is right. Now because he doesn't support your position and you don't like it then its your problem. And the only argument you can conjure is that a Serbian chick dumped him, for why he is against Serbians? What are you 12?
================================

Actually nobody takes it seriously when Ian is being accused of being dumped by a Serbian girl. This is just having a bit of fun at Ian's expense.
The reason nobody believes that he doesn't have any Albanian blood in him is because nobody who is an outsider would display such hatred towards the Serbs. He tries to hide it but just like Roberto it comes through. I can understand someone who is of another nationality disagreeing with Serbs and even supporting Albanian position but Ian goes way beyond that. He is here all the time closing his eyes to any Albanian crime and never ever finding it in his heart to actually acknowledge that Serbs were ethnically cleansed, murdered and still get murdered.
This is not the way someone who has no personal stake behaves.
He is personally invested in this, that much is obvious, so the question remains, WHY?
He obviously has Albanian in his background.

Peggy, I have added him on Facebook, and chatted with him. He has no Albanian friends there. I am the only one. If he had an Albanian background, he would have some Albanian friends or “relatives” added there. There are none.
And its not that he is inconsiderate of Serbian views, its just that they are just mainly plain wrong. I am Albanian and I have NO hatred towards Serbs. According to your statement because I am Albanian, I should harbor hatred toward Serbs? And you being Serbian, should hate me because of my background?