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Tuesday, 20.11.2012.

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Ex-chief prosecutor denounces Hague ruling

Former Chief Hague Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte has said that the acquittal of Croatian generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač "is not justice".

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icj1

pre 11 godina

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!
(icj1, 21 November 2012 06:03)
Wow, something you read on the back of a Macdonald’s place mat?
You poor man. Like the dumb a**** that made the decision to let Gotovina go free you have no clues what has been done here and it has nothing to do with Belgrade either. It has far far wider implications especially for the western legal system.
(sj, 21 November 2012 10:42)

Actually it was in a Marrybrown place, mate... :)

But, yeah, I had no clue until my Malaysian friend told that to me. So far I thought that the Malaysians who provide secret info to me and you were only knowledgable about financial, economic and political affairs. So I was suprised when my Malaysian friend turned out to also know a lot of secret stuff in legal affairs that the masses are not aware of.

sj

pre 11 godina

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!
(icj1, 21 November 2012 06:03)
Wow, something you read on the back of a Macdonald’s place mat?
You poor man. Like the dumb a**** that made the decision to let Gotovina go free you have no clues what has been done here and it has nothing to do with Belgrade either. It has far far wider implications especially for the western legal system.

icj1

pre 11 godina

""I was very surprised and stupefied. It is completely incredible what happened after the sentence of 24 years in prison for Gotovina. Unbelievable. I cannot accept it. I feel full solidarity with the Serb victims of the crime. The crime, that we backed up with hard evidence.""

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!

King Damir

pre 11 godina

Milosevic and his gang were responsible for all the atrocities that occurred in the attacks on Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo, and that includes the evacuation of Croatians of serb decent from Croatia. I wouldn't doubt if he profited somehow by taking in these self made refugees. These people believed in Milosevic and his promises of a greater serbia, they are truly serbians now, they are serbia's to take care of. This is the choice they made based on what they were promised, not what any Croatian did to them. After all serbia took control of the Yugo military and all its weapons so why would they fear unarmed Croats. Operation Oluja was a brilliant operation and now it can go back in to the record and history books as such.

King Damir

pre 11 godina

del ponte totally incriminates herself in this interview with quotes like "if the generals didn't do it, then who did" and "the court must have misinterpreted the evidence". What she did was arrest Generals Gotovina and Markac imprison them unjustly for 7 years with absolutely no evidence because someone from Croatia had to fall so serbia would not be the only ones blamed for the invasion and atrocities. If she did her job, how can she wonder at this point who else could it have been. If she did her job, the evidence would be so strong that it could not be misinterpreted. The fact is there was no evidence or credible witness testimony that there was indiscriminate shelling of civilian targets, the shelling was in fact accurate by all standards and hit their military targets.

Jim

pre 11 godina

Even a Serb hater like Del Ponte admits that the ruling was a farce.
Having said that I don't blame the Tribunal, they are just the political arm of the NATO aggression, I blame the treasonous 'Serbian' government.

luciano

pre 11 godina

A lot of Italians were fascists and I make no excuse for them but even they were not as barbarian as Pavelic and his Croat killers.Only Lenard assumes just because my name is Luciano that I have any sympathy for fascists anywhere. On the contrary,any righteous Jew knows that the Serbs are much more tolerant than any Croat he/she will ever meet.Shalom

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Their goes bambino Luciano forgets fascist Italy support of Ustase. safe heaven in Italy financing arming the little band of 160 Ustase. When the Croatian democratically elected government refused to cooperate with the Fascist Italy. Fascist Italy arrested the Croatian democratic elected government and installed fascist Pavlic Ustase. Go to your mama bambino Luciano probably still living with her mooching off her Italian bambino are the No 1 in the world in doing that.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

The Serbs know what that so called Court is all about,they complain about it,so can someone tell me why the Hell Serb Governments continue to co-operate with it?they still hand over Military personnel who fought against the Fascists and Nato gangsters,it would have been like the British handing Montgomery over to Hitler.

luciano

pre 11 godina

Carla is an honorable woman who speaks the truth and had the unfortunate job of trying to prosecute killers from all sides of the Balkan conflict so obviously all sides are gonna criticize her at any point in time but she is beginning to realize that justice for Serbs is not attainable in a kangaroo court which is more a political entity than one dedicated to strictly justice..As far as Croatia is concerned it has been a fascist society for many years and will continue to be so as long as people like Lenard keep on worshipping at the grave of Pavelic and Tudjman.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2012 18:07)
Do you not think that her response mirrors that of every prosecutor in the world that has a case they tried and won to be reversed? I do not share the sentiment that it shows any moral fiber at all. Typically, prosecutors are in for the win under the guise of justice, and not really the justice itself.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Her conscience doesn't need to come back, during her time, Del Ponte always tried to do the best to shed light on crimes committed and to punish perpetrators.
(Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2012 18:07)
--
Of course her conscience has come back to haunt her as she allowed crimes to go unpunished due to political pressure. She has admitted it herself. So if that is the case, then she knows that the court makes political decisions, which she has just confirmed once again.

So we can assume that every single verdict is unsafe as it is not necessarily based on law. You see, she was forced to drop investigations against NATO and organ traffickers. So the "court" is not independent and it has been exposed for what it is. A kangaroo court and a very expensive one at that.

Karla Kreates Kr*p

pre 11 godina

Karla wants to have her cake and eat it. She presided over the whole corrupt ICTY and still refuses to take responsibility for it and her role ad an useful idiot. The ICTY is to justice what a pretzel is to an architects drawing.

Amer

pre 11 godina

'Del Ponte stated she had not read the argumentation behind the decision, but that she opposed it completely, and "could not see how it could be accepted". '

'Nuff said.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Of course it is a political and corrupt "court", most Serbs know it and so does she. Her conscience is coming back to haunt her."
(Zoran, 20 November 2012 16:48)

Her conscience doesn't need to come back, during her time, Del Ponte always tried to do the best to shed light on crimes committed and to punish perpetrators. So, if she's denouncing the ruling now and fears that the Kosovo Albanian war criminals could get away as well, she has a 100 times more credibility than people who cry 'foul', and at the some minutes later, praising Mladic and Karadzic as heroes.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Former Chief Hague Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte the worst prosecutor in the world they really scraped the bottom of the barrel or was that under the barrel to find her. Serbs remember she said she destroyed the evidence about the yellow house. Trials going on court in session and she is going around destroying evidence crazy nutcase.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Reacting to her interview on Tuesday, Gotovina's defense lawyer Luka Mištić announced that he would "report the former chief prosecutor to the Swiss Bar Association". According to the lawyer, this complaint against her would be based on "ethical grounds".

Imagine a mass murderer's lawyer accusing someone else of an ethical violation. The world is completely upside down.

tim from canada

pre 11 godina

she is right about that i guess the ustasas emptied out all their money to have them freed and now croatia is broke.next will croatia will be only zagreb in the near futre because they sold everything to get these 2 clowns out.dalmacia will be gone to italy and dubrovnik will seperate and krajina will be independant .but you got your 2 fools out of jail.oh i forgot the vatican is in the red zone and is almost broke from all the catholic nazi spendings.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Suspicion is emerging that the verdict was not influenced by evidence, but by politics, lobbying money, or something else not related to the court, Del Ponte concluded.
--
LOL! What, not influenced by evidence but by politics, lobbying or something else? That coming from the former chief prosecutor? Well, that puts the whole "court" in disrepute and every single verdict should be challenged.

Of course it is a political and corrupt "court", most Serbs know it and so does she. Her conscience is coming back to haunt her.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Suspicion is emerging that the verdict was not influenced by evidence, but by politics, lobbying money, or something else not related to the court, Del Ponte concluded.
--
LOL! What, not influenced by evidence but by politics, lobbying or something else? That coming from the former chief prosecutor? Well, that puts the whole "court" in disrepute and every single verdict should be challenged.

Of course it is a political and corrupt "court", most Serbs know it and so does she. Her conscience is coming back to haunt her.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Reacting to her interview on Tuesday, Gotovina's defense lawyer Luka Mištić announced that he would "report the former chief prosecutor to the Swiss Bar Association". According to the lawyer, this complaint against her would be based on "ethical grounds".

Imagine a mass murderer's lawyer accusing someone else of an ethical violation. The world is completely upside down.

Amer

pre 11 godina

'Del Ponte stated she had not read the argumentation behind the decision, but that she opposed it completely, and "could not see how it could be accepted". '

'Nuff said.

tim from canada

pre 11 godina

she is right about that i guess the ustasas emptied out all their money to have them freed and now croatia is broke.next will croatia will be only zagreb in the near futre because they sold everything to get these 2 clowns out.dalmacia will be gone to italy and dubrovnik will seperate and krajina will be independant .but you got your 2 fools out of jail.oh i forgot the vatican is in the red zone and is almost broke from all the catholic nazi spendings.

luciano

pre 11 godina

Carla is an honorable woman who speaks the truth and had the unfortunate job of trying to prosecute killers from all sides of the Balkan conflict so obviously all sides are gonna criticize her at any point in time but she is beginning to realize that justice for Serbs is not attainable in a kangaroo court which is more a political entity than one dedicated to strictly justice..As far as Croatia is concerned it has been a fascist society for many years and will continue to be so as long as people like Lenard keep on worshipping at the grave of Pavelic and Tudjman.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Her conscience doesn't need to come back, during her time, Del Ponte always tried to do the best to shed light on crimes committed and to punish perpetrators.
(Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2012 18:07)
--
Of course her conscience has come back to haunt her as she allowed crimes to go unpunished due to political pressure. She has admitted it herself. So if that is the case, then she knows that the court makes political decisions, which she has just confirmed once again.

So we can assume that every single verdict is unsafe as it is not necessarily based on law. You see, she was forced to drop investigations against NATO and organ traffickers. So the "court" is not independent and it has been exposed for what it is. A kangaroo court and a very expensive one at that.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

The Serbs know what that so called Court is all about,they complain about it,so can someone tell me why the Hell Serb Governments continue to co-operate with it?they still hand over Military personnel who fought against the Fascists and Nato gangsters,it would have been like the British handing Montgomery over to Hitler.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Of course it is a political and corrupt "court", most Serbs know it and so does she. Her conscience is coming back to haunt her."
(Zoran, 20 November 2012 16:48)

Her conscience doesn't need to come back, during her time, Del Ponte always tried to do the best to shed light on crimes committed and to punish perpetrators. So, if she's denouncing the ruling now and fears that the Kosovo Albanian war criminals could get away as well, she has a 100 times more credibility than people who cry 'foul', and at the some minutes later, praising Mladic and Karadzic as heroes.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Former Chief Hague Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte the worst prosecutor in the world they really scraped the bottom of the barrel or was that under the barrel to find her. Serbs remember she said she destroyed the evidence about the yellow house. Trials going on court in session and she is going around destroying evidence crazy nutcase.

Karla Kreates Kr*p

pre 11 godina

Karla wants to have her cake and eat it. She presided over the whole corrupt ICTY and still refuses to take responsibility for it and her role ad an useful idiot. The ICTY is to justice what a pretzel is to an architects drawing.

King Damir

pre 11 godina

del ponte totally incriminates herself in this interview with quotes like "if the generals didn't do it, then who did" and "the court must have misinterpreted the evidence". What she did was arrest Generals Gotovina and Markac imprison them unjustly for 7 years with absolutely no evidence because someone from Croatia had to fall so serbia would not be the only ones blamed for the invasion and atrocities. If she did her job, how can she wonder at this point who else could it have been. If she did her job, the evidence would be so strong that it could not be misinterpreted. The fact is there was no evidence or credible witness testimony that there was indiscriminate shelling of civilian targets, the shelling was in fact accurate by all standards and hit their military targets.

King Damir

pre 11 godina

Milosevic and his gang were responsible for all the atrocities that occurred in the attacks on Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo, and that includes the evacuation of Croatians of serb decent from Croatia. I wouldn't doubt if he profited somehow by taking in these self made refugees. These people believed in Milosevic and his promises of a greater serbia, they are truly serbians now, they are serbia's to take care of. This is the choice they made based on what they were promised, not what any Croatian did to them. After all serbia took control of the Yugo military and all its weapons so why would they fear unarmed Croats. Operation Oluja was a brilliant operation and now it can go back in to the record and history books as such.

luciano

pre 11 godina

A lot of Italians were fascists and I make no excuse for them but even they were not as barbarian as Pavelic and his Croat killers.Only Lenard assumes just because my name is Luciano that I have any sympathy for fascists anywhere. On the contrary,any righteous Jew knows that the Serbs are much more tolerant than any Croat he/she will ever meet.Shalom

Jim

pre 11 godina

Even a Serb hater like Del Ponte admits that the ruling was a farce.
Having said that I don't blame the Tribunal, they are just the political arm of the NATO aggression, I blame the treasonous 'Serbian' government.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Their goes bambino Luciano forgets fascist Italy support of Ustase. safe heaven in Italy financing arming the little band of 160 Ustase. When the Croatian democratically elected government refused to cooperate with the Fascist Italy. Fascist Italy arrested the Croatian democratic elected government and installed fascist Pavlic Ustase. Go to your mama bambino Luciano probably still living with her mooching off her Italian bambino are the No 1 in the world in doing that.

icj1

pre 11 godina

""I was very surprised and stupefied. It is completely incredible what happened after the sentence of 24 years in prison for Gotovina. Unbelievable. I cannot accept it. I feel full solidarity with the Serb victims of the crime. The crime, that we backed up with hard evidence.""

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2012 18:07)
Do you not think that her response mirrors that of every prosecutor in the world that has a case they tried and won to be reversed? I do not share the sentiment that it shows any moral fiber at all. Typically, prosecutors are in for the win under the guise of justice, and not really the justice itself.

sj

pre 11 godina

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!
(icj1, 21 November 2012 06:03)
Wow, something you read on the back of a Macdonald’s place mat?
You poor man. Like the dumb a**** that made the decision to let Gotovina go free you have no clues what has been done here and it has nothing to do with Belgrade either. It has far far wider implications especially for the western legal system.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!
(icj1, 21 November 2012 06:03)
Wow, something you read on the back of a Macdonald’s place mat?
You poor man. Like the dumb a**** that made the decision to let Gotovina go free you have no clues what has been done here and it has nothing to do with Belgrade either. It has far far wider implications especially for the western legal system.
(sj, 21 November 2012 10:42)

Actually it was in a Marrybrown place, mate... :)

But, yeah, I had no clue until my Malaysian friend told that to me. So far I thought that the Malaysians who provide secret info to me and you were only knowledgable about financial, economic and political affairs. So I was suprised when my Malaysian friend turned out to also know a lot of secret stuff in legal affairs that the masses are not aware of.

tim from canada

pre 11 godina

she is right about that i guess the ustasas emptied out all their money to have them freed and now croatia is broke.next will croatia will be only zagreb in the near futre because they sold everything to get these 2 clowns out.dalmacia will be gone to italy and dubrovnik will seperate and krajina will be independant .but you got your 2 fools out of jail.oh i forgot the vatican is in the red zone and is almost broke from all the catholic nazi spendings.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Former Chief Hague Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte the worst prosecutor in the world they really scraped the bottom of the barrel or was that under the barrel to find her. Serbs remember she said she destroyed the evidence about the yellow house. Trials going on court in session and she is going around destroying evidence crazy nutcase.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Of course it is a political and corrupt "court", most Serbs know it and so does she. Her conscience is coming back to haunt her."
(Zoran, 20 November 2012 16:48)

Her conscience doesn't need to come back, during her time, Del Ponte always tried to do the best to shed light on crimes committed and to punish perpetrators. So, if she's denouncing the ruling now and fears that the Kosovo Albanian war criminals could get away as well, she has a 100 times more credibility than people who cry 'foul', and at the some minutes later, praising Mladic and Karadzic as heroes.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Her conscience doesn't need to come back, during her time, Del Ponte always tried to do the best to shed light on crimes committed and to punish perpetrators.
(Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2012 18:07)
--
Of course her conscience has come back to haunt her as she allowed crimes to go unpunished due to political pressure. She has admitted it herself. So if that is the case, then she knows that the court makes political decisions, which she has just confirmed once again.

So we can assume that every single verdict is unsafe as it is not necessarily based on law. You see, she was forced to drop investigations against NATO and organ traffickers. So the "court" is not independent and it has been exposed for what it is. A kangaroo court and a very expensive one at that.

luciano

pre 11 godina

Carla is an honorable woman who speaks the truth and had the unfortunate job of trying to prosecute killers from all sides of the Balkan conflict so obviously all sides are gonna criticize her at any point in time but she is beginning to realize that justice for Serbs is not attainable in a kangaroo court which is more a political entity than one dedicated to strictly justice..As far as Croatia is concerned it has been a fascist society for many years and will continue to be so as long as people like Lenard keep on worshipping at the grave of Pavelic and Tudjman.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Their goes bambino Luciano forgets fascist Italy support of Ustase. safe heaven in Italy financing arming the little band of 160 Ustase. When the Croatian democratically elected government refused to cooperate with the Fascist Italy. Fascist Italy arrested the Croatian democratic elected government and installed fascist Pavlic Ustase. Go to your mama bambino Luciano probably still living with her mooching off her Italian bambino are the No 1 in the world in doing that.

Englishman

pre 11 godina

The Serbs know what that so called Court is all about,they complain about it,so can someone tell me why the Hell Serb Governments continue to co-operate with it?they still hand over Military personnel who fought against the Fascists and Nato gangsters,it would have been like the British handing Montgomery over to Hitler.

Daniel

pre 11 godina

Reacting to her interview on Tuesday, Gotovina's defense lawyer Luka Mištić announced that he would "report the former chief prosecutor to the Swiss Bar Association". According to the lawyer, this complaint against her would be based on "ethical grounds".

Imagine a mass murderer's lawyer accusing someone else of an ethical violation. The world is completely upside down.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Suspicion is emerging that the verdict was not influenced by evidence, but by politics, lobbying money, or something else not related to the court, Del Ponte concluded.
--
LOL! What, not influenced by evidence but by politics, lobbying or something else? That coming from the former chief prosecutor? Well, that puts the whole "court" in disrepute and every single verdict should be challenged.

Of course it is a political and corrupt "court", most Serbs know it and so does she. Her conscience is coming back to haunt her.

luciano

pre 11 godina

A lot of Italians were fascists and I make no excuse for them but even they were not as barbarian as Pavelic and his Croat killers.Only Lenard assumes just because my name is Luciano that I have any sympathy for fascists anywhere. On the contrary,any righteous Jew knows that the Serbs are much more tolerant than any Croat he/she will ever meet.Shalom

King Damir

pre 11 godina

del ponte totally incriminates herself in this interview with quotes like "if the generals didn't do it, then who did" and "the court must have misinterpreted the evidence". What she did was arrest Generals Gotovina and Markac imprison them unjustly for 7 years with absolutely no evidence because someone from Croatia had to fall so serbia would not be the only ones blamed for the invasion and atrocities. If she did her job, how can she wonder at this point who else could it have been. If she did her job, the evidence would be so strong that it could not be misinterpreted. The fact is there was no evidence or credible witness testimony that there was indiscriminate shelling of civilian targets, the shelling was in fact accurate by all standards and hit their military targets.

King Damir

pre 11 godina

Milosevic and his gang were responsible for all the atrocities that occurred in the attacks on Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo, and that includes the evacuation of Croatians of serb decent from Croatia. I wouldn't doubt if he profited somehow by taking in these self made refugees. These people believed in Milosevic and his promises of a greater serbia, they are truly serbians now, they are serbia's to take care of. This is the choice they made based on what they were promised, not what any Croatian did to them. After all serbia took control of the Yugo military and all its weapons so why would they fear unarmed Croats. Operation Oluja was a brilliant operation and now it can go back in to the record and history books as such.

icj1

pre 11 godina

""I was very surprised and stupefied. It is completely incredible what happened after the sentence of 24 years in prison for Gotovina. Unbelievable. I cannot accept it. I feel full solidarity with the Serb victims of the crime. The crime, that we backed up with hard evidence.""

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!

Amer

pre 11 godina

'Del Ponte stated she had not read the argumentation behind the decision, but that she opposed it completely, and "could not see how it could be accepted". '

'Nuff said.

Jim

pre 11 godina

Even a Serb hater like Del Ponte admits that the ruling was a farce.
Having said that I don't blame the Tribunal, they are just the political arm of the NATO aggression, I blame the treasonous 'Serbian' government.

sj

pre 11 godina

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!
(icj1, 21 November 2012 06:03)
Wow, something you read on the back of a Macdonald’s place mat?
You poor man. Like the dumb a**** that made the decision to let Gotovina go free you have no clues what has been done here and it has nothing to do with Belgrade either. It has far far wider implications especially for the western legal system.

Karla Kreates Kr*p

pre 11 godina

Karla wants to have her cake and eat it. She presided over the whole corrupt ICTY and still refuses to take responsibility for it and her role ad an useful idiot. The ICTY is to justice what a pretzel is to an architects drawing.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2012 18:07)
Do you not think that her response mirrors that of every prosecutor in the world that has a case they tried and won to be reversed? I do not share the sentiment that it shows any moral fiber at all. Typically, prosecutors are in for the win under the guise of justice, and not really the justice itself.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Sorry, not sure how the prosecution's opinion about the verdict carries any more weight that Gotovina's opinion. They are both parties in the dispute!
(icj1, 21 November 2012 06:03)
Wow, something you read on the back of a Macdonald’s place mat?
You poor man. Like the dumb a**** that made the decision to let Gotovina go free you have no clues what has been done here and it has nothing to do with Belgrade either. It has far far wider implications especially for the western legal system.
(sj, 21 November 2012 10:42)

Actually it was in a Marrybrown place, mate... :)

But, yeah, I had no clue until my Malaysian friend told that to me. So far I thought that the Malaysians who provide secret info to me and you were only knowledgable about financial, economic and political affairs. So I was suprised when my Malaysian friend turned out to also know a lot of secret stuff in legal affairs that the masses are not aware of.