PM Dačić hints at "new Dayton" for Kosovo

"PM Ivica Dačić has said on the anniversary of the Dayton Accords that other problems, "such as Kosovo", could be solved in a "new Dayton agreement"."

All that the Dayton Accords achieved was short term success and paved the way for long term failure, so there is no chance in hell that there'll be abother Dayton for Kosovo and Serbia. Bosnia is a very fragile place, which will boil over soon; does he want the same for Serbia?

Besides, what does Dacic think Serbia can offer Kosovo which will make Kosovo give up their independence? Is he really that mad?

Also does he really want an Albanian entity in Serbia blocking/ vetoing everything which Belgrade wants/ holding Serbia hostage politically?

This is the silliest idea yet!

Be careful what you wish for, because it might just come true!

Kosovo isn't independent, nothing to give up.
(aaayyy, 20 November 2012 15:12)

Russia and Serbia disagree with you as does the rest of the world, Russia and Serbia just dispute the legality of Kosovo's independence but de facto accept that Kosovo is independent.

Saying Kosovo isn't independent doesn't make it true.

Ian Dacic wouldn't be saying this if he wasn't being pressured to deliver this by some quarters of the international community. In other words there is little electoral benefit in pursuing this idea in Serbia.

Of course Dacic will put his spin on this by calling it a Dayton, but will it be a Dayton, or will it be more like a Kumanovo (effective capitulation)?

I can't let Dacic away with this stupid comment: 'If Serbia were strong, this would never have happened'. Ivica it was your mentor Milosevic and the policies you supported that made Serbia so weak in the first place.

So Dacic helps bring Serbia to its knees and now wants the Serbian people to trust him with a Kosovo agreement he is telling us nothing about?

Hee Heeee,When we Albanians asked to be included in Dayton this (Puppet of milosevic )at the time did not want to hear about and now he is asking for it.Is it that nice ? It takes a while for serbs to learn but I guess is tooooo late.Kosova had its Dayton and got its INDEPENDENCE.You just said it yourself that you are so weak and cant do anything about it.

Too little too late. How about Vojvodina?

Yes PM, and the year now is 1996.

It seems like the serb leaders are on a roll today, you do that child of Milosevic, expect a daytona in kosovo.... priceless. This is not going to end well for you.

Dayton was realted to an independent state. Is Dacic accepting with the proposal the independence of Kosovo? It looks so. Dayton was possible with the ethnically composition of BiH, but in Kosovo are over 90% Albanians. And Dayton was before the NATO-war against Serbia. Nobody would sit today with the weak Serbia as an important state at a table together. Dacic is looking for a solution which is not a solution. What has he learnt from history? Nothing.

Saying Kosovo isn't independent doesn't make it true.
Ian, Uk

And saying Kosovo is independent does not make it true either.

Every suggestion from the serb side is emediately rejected by albs. In that case lets accept status quo. Serbs in kosovo have more to loose then albs if there is a peace deal.

I completely agree with Ian's comments.

In addition I would add that Richard Holbrook said in his biography that, one of his biggest regrets was to agree to the Serbian terms on calling the region Bosnia a republic.

Republic Serbia will eventually join Serbia through the will of the people there.

Kosovo is an independent country and Belgrade has to come to terms with that.

I can't believe what i just read. A wise man is someone who learns from his own mistakes but the serb politicians are ready to repeat the errors of the past. The Dayton agreement may have ended a war but it created a country unable to function with two entities and three nations (religious groups) that want nothing to do with each other. As for the Bosnia Serbs they were trapped in a country they don't wanna be in. How is that a good solution that should be applied also in Kosovo and even if it was applied wouldn't that unavoidably mean recognition of Kosovo's independence? The Serb politicians are either fools or traitors.

(Ian, UK, 20 November 2012 13:42)

You exactly summarized the most important points. That kind of proposal tells me that Dacic has no clue how to solve the Kosovo issue without compromising Serbia's strategic goals. It is an aimless action with no real substance behind it and just another, desperate attempt to reach the next step in the EU integration process. Actually, the longer it takes, the more bizarre his suggestions become.

OMG, OMG! Two days in a row this fool utters the stupidest things! The Dayton Accord has been a thorn in the side of the US State Dept. since the moment it was signed. Hillary would like nothing more than to strip it apart and gut the powers given to the Serb entity under it. To even mention its name and a willingness to include it with Kosovo is tantamount to treason. As for Kosovo, a simple no is all that's required. Time will pass, empires come and go but legal title to this land stays with Serbia. Since you hold legal title, what is there to negotiate? If you don think you do then why are they so determined to get your signature. Like a bad renter, it's time for these Euro-squatter's to leave.

Besides, what does Dacic think Serbia can offer Kosovo which will make Kosovo give up their independence? Is he really that mad?
(Ian)

Kosovo isn't independent, nothing to give up.

Not even looking at what he is saying just his wording, wow what a speech
and the way this guy words everything soo illiterate.

"Kosova Dayton" already finished.
Finished by NATO and UCK in 1999.
Kosova and Serbia partitioned.
No more Dayton necessary for Kosova.

Never = Nikad!

Too little too late. How about Vojvodina?
(Avni, 20 November 2012 17:35)
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How about it? Do you want that too?

Peggy unfortunately the powers that be in Serbia have decided that Dacic will continue with support. He has the support of SNS, which is assuming the Kosovo lite mode - supporting Dacic with the occasional reservation in public to keep the patriotic vote onside. If anything goes wrong SNS can always feign ignorance.

To be honest I can't see how things can unravel at this stage. OK there continues to be a low grade cold war between SNS and SPS (linked to the bugging incidents) but even if there is something of struggle at middle levels, Dacic, Vucic and Nikolic have come to some kind of pact / agreement.

Situation on the ground in Kosovo isn't a serious factor any more. No political party (SRS) has the means to support Kosovo Serbs and the government can cut more purse strings (EU wants to do that anyway) to them if they disobey.

The Serbian opposition is in disarray - SRS gone, Kostunica refuses to definitively attack the government in the way he dissected the policies of the previous government, DS says nothing, either because it tacitly supports Dacic's Kosovo policy or because of their internal issues / party policy unclear due to Djilas takeover, LDP has serious internal problems of its own and although they attack government policy one suspects they support it.

Disgruntled / accused businessmen tie up with Kosovo Serbs to sponsor protests aiming to derail government policy? Possible, might already have been discussed, but would it work?

So Dacic helps bring Serbia to its knees and now wants the Serbian people to trust him with a Kosovo agreement he is telling us nothing about?
(bganon, 20 November 2012 14:31)
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The little weezle has to go. He is too reckless which makes him dangerous.
Thank God it's not up to him. Let's see what the rest of the cabinet thinks. Others will surely block this insanity.

mr dacic Serb Republic is the first Serb entity across the Drina River and will be the LAST..and IT will NOT last.....and that is why the agreement deserves to be a historic document in the history of the all nations.

Bganon, you paint a very grim picture, but then again it's nothing different to what is going on in the rest of the world.
Serbia is no different to Australia when it comes to politics being projected as opposing by different parties and then supported in practical terms by the same parties.
Politicans make a lot of noise but at the end of the day, they all work for the same boss.

Too little too late. How about Vojvodina?
(Avni, 20 November 2012 17:35)
What about Vojvodina?Are you aware that more than 60%of the population in Vojvodina is Serbian?

Vojvodina is more diverse than the rest of Serbia with more than 25 ethnic groups and six official languages.[18]

The largest ethnic groups are Serbs (65%) and Hungarians (14%).[19]

Population by national or ethnic groups:[19][20]

@"Ian, UK" who is very likely just another cowardly k-albanian, trying to pretend support by foreign individuals:

my dear, saying that Kosovo is not independent is simply telling the truth. you can go on denying it, but you are definitely heavily dependent on foreign help and support. otherwise Serbia would have given you the deserved medication.

but, since the situation is as it is... we will just wait and see what happens in the coming years.

and I think you will be quite disappointed, my dear k-albanian friends.

Besides, what does Dacic think Serbia can offer Kosovo which will make Kosovo give up their independence? Is he really that mad?
(Ian)

Kosovo isn't independent, nothing to give up.

Kosovo isn't independent, nothing to give up.
(aaayyy, 20 November 2012 15:12)

Russia and Serbia disagree with you as does the rest of the world, Russia and Serbia just dispute the legality of Kosovo's independence but de facto accept that Kosovo is independent.

Saying Kosovo isn't independent doesn't make it true.

Hee Heeee,When we Albanians asked to be included in Dayton this (Puppet of milosevic )at the time did not want to hear about and now he is asking for it.Is it that nice ? It takes a while for serbs to learn but I guess is tooooo late.Kosova had its Dayton and got its INDEPENDENCE.You just said it yourself that you are so weak and cant do anything about it.

Saying Kosovo isn't independent doesn't make it true.
Ian, Uk

And saying Kosovo is independent does not make it true either.

Every suggestion from the serb side is emediately rejected by albs. In that case lets accept status quo. Serbs in kosovo have more to loose then albs if there is a peace deal.

I completely agree with Ian's comments.

In addition I would add that Richard Holbrook said in his biography that, one of his biggest regrets was to agree to the Serbian terms on calling the region Bosnia a republic.

Republic Serbia will eventually join Serbia through the will of the people there.

Kosovo is an independent country and Belgrade has to come to terms with that.

Too little too late. How about Vojvodina?

"PM Ivica Dačić has said on the anniversary of the Dayton Accords that other problems, "such as Kosovo", could be solved in a "new Dayton agreement"."

All that the Dayton Accords achieved was short term success and paved the way for long term failure, so there is no chance in hell that there'll be abother Dayton for Kosovo and Serbia. Bosnia is a very fragile place, which will boil over soon; does he want the same for Serbia?

Besides, what does Dacic think Serbia can offer Kosovo which will make Kosovo give up their independence? Is he really that mad?

Also does he really want an Albanian entity in Serbia blocking/ vetoing everything which Belgrade wants/ holding Serbia hostage politically?

This is the silliest idea yet!

Be careful what you wish for, because it might just come true!

Yes PM, and the year now is 1996.

OMG, OMG! Two days in a row this fool utters the stupidest things! The Dayton Accord has been a thorn in the side of the US State Dept. since the moment it was signed. Hillary would like nothing more than to strip it apart and gut the powers given to the Serb entity under it. To even mention its name and a willingness to include it with Kosovo is tantamount to treason. As for Kosovo, a simple no is all that's required. Time will pass, empires come and go but legal title to this land stays with Serbia. Since you hold legal title, what is there to negotiate? If you don think you do then why are they so determined to get your signature. Like a bad renter, it's time for these Euro-squatter's to leave.

Too little too late. How about Vojvodina?
(Avni, 20 November 2012 17:35)
==============================

How about it? Do you want that too?

It seems like the serb leaders are on a roll today, you do that child of Milosevic, expect a daytona in kosovo.... priceless. This is not going to end well for you.

Dayton was realted to an independent state. Is Dacic accepting with the proposal the independence of Kosovo? It looks so. Dayton was possible with the ethnically composition of BiH, but in Kosovo are over 90% Albanians. And Dayton was before the NATO-war against Serbia. Nobody would sit today with the weak Serbia as an important state at a table together. Dacic is looking for a solution which is not a solution. What has he learnt from history? Nothing.

(Ian, UK, 20 November 2012 13:42)

You exactly summarized the most important points. That kind of proposal tells me that Dacic has no clue how to solve the Kosovo issue without compromising Serbia's strategic goals. It is an aimless action with no real substance behind it and just another, desperate attempt to reach the next step in the EU integration process. Actually, the longer it takes, the more bizarre his suggestions become.

Not even looking at what he is saying just his wording, wow what a speech
and the way this guy words everything soo illiterate.

"Kosova Dayton" already finished.
Finished by NATO and UCK in 1999.
Kosova and Serbia partitioned.
No more Dayton necessary for Kosova.

Ian Dacic wouldn't be saying this if he wasn't being pressured to deliver this by some quarters of the international community. In other words there is little electoral benefit in pursuing this idea in Serbia.

Of course Dacic will put his spin on this by calling it a Dayton, but will it be a Dayton, or will it be more like a Kumanovo (effective capitulation)?

I can't let Dacic away with this stupid comment: 'If Serbia were strong, this would never have happened'. Ivica it was your mentor Milosevic and the policies you supported that made Serbia so weak in the first place.

So Dacic helps bring Serbia to its knees and now wants the Serbian people to trust him with a Kosovo agreement he is telling us nothing about?

I can't believe what i just read. A wise man is someone who learns from his own mistakes but the serb politicians are ready to repeat the errors of the past. The Dayton agreement may have ended a war but it created a country unable to function with two entities and three nations (religious groups) that want nothing to do with each other. As for the Bosnia Serbs they were trapped in a country they don't wanna be in. How is that a good solution that should be applied also in Kosovo and even if it was applied wouldn't that unavoidably mean recognition of Kosovo's independence? The Serb politicians are either fools or traitors.

Never = Nikad!

mr dacic Serb Republic is the first Serb entity across the Drina River and will be the LAST..and IT will NOT last.....and that is why the agreement deserves to be a historic document in the history of the all nations.

So Dacic helps bring Serbia to its knees and now wants the Serbian people to trust him with a Kosovo agreement he is telling us nothing about?
(bganon, 20 November 2012 14:31)
===============================
The little weezle has to go. He is too reckless which makes him dangerous.
Thank God it's not up to him. Let's see what the rest of the cabinet thinks. Others will surely block this insanity.

Peggy unfortunately the powers that be in Serbia have decided that Dacic will continue with support. He has the support of SNS, which is assuming the Kosovo lite mode - supporting Dacic with the occasional reservation in public to keep the patriotic vote onside. If anything goes wrong SNS can always feign ignorance.

To be honest I can't see how things can unravel at this stage. OK there continues to be a low grade cold war between SNS and SPS (linked to the bugging incidents) but even if there is something of struggle at middle levels, Dacic, Vucic and Nikolic have come to some kind of pact / agreement.

Situation on the ground in Kosovo isn't a serious factor any more. No political party (SRS) has the means to support Kosovo Serbs and the government can cut more purse strings (EU wants to do that anyway) to them if they disobey.

The Serbian opposition is in disarray - SRS gone, Kostunica refuses to definitively attack the government in the way he dissected the policies of the previous government, DS says nothing, either because it tacitly supports Dacic's Kosovo policy or because of their internal issues / party policy unclear due to Djilas takeover, LDP has serious internal problems of its own and although they attack government policy one suspects they support it.

Disgruntled / accused businessmen tie up with Kosovo Serbs to sponsor protests aiming to derail government policy? Possible, might already have been discussed, but would it work?

Too little too late. How about Vojvodina?
(Avni, 20 November 2012 17:35)
What about Vojvodina?Are you aware that more than 60%of the population in Vojvodina is Serbian?

Vojvodina is more diverse than the rest of Serbia with more than 25 ethnic groups and six official languages.[18]

The largest ethnic groups are Serbs (65%) and Hungarians (14%).[19]

Population by national or ethnic groups:[19][20]

Bganon, you paint a very grim picture, but then again it's nothing different to what is going on in the rest of the world.
Serbia is no different to Australia when it comes to politics being projected as opposing by different parties and then supported in practical terms by the same parties.
Politicans make a lot of noise but at the end of the day, they all work for the same boss.

@"Ian, UK" who is very likely just another cowardly k-albanian, trying to pretend support by foreign individuals:

my dear, saying that Kosovo is not independent is simply telling the truth. you can go on denying it, but you are definitely heavily dependent on foreign help and support. otherwise Serbia would have given you the deserved medication.

but, since the situation is as it is... we will just wait and see what happens in the coming years.

and I think you will be quite disappointed, my dear k-albanian friends.