Serbs block road in north Kosovo for one hour

One weekend no Insajder report and suddenly the patriotic pillagers re-appear on the road. But the best part is Jovic statement:

"...to call KFOR to account for the attempted mass murder of citizens on June 1 in Rudare..."

No further comment..

Let me get this straight. They're protesting the release of a man who is to stand trial for the attempted murder of two KFOR soldiers?

No chance!

No chance!
(Ian, UK, 6 November 2012 13:03)

No chance? ahah wtf are you going to decide who gets released where? Does this really bring joy in your life? Something is clearly wrong with you.

Oh and btw, when it came to arresting alleged criminals in the north last week who was asked to do the arresting? The Serbian MUP this is an undeniable fact that KFOR asked, and MUP performed the arrests in compliance. Which reiterates my point, Kosovo i Metohija has only two shareholders- Serbs and NATO-KFOR. But for Serbia its a much longer-term investment than the temporary presence of Western powers.

No chance? ahah wtf are you going to decide who gets released where? Does this really bring joy in your life? Something is clearly wrong with you.

Oh and btw, when it came to arresting alleged criminals in the north last week who was asked to do the arresting? The Serbian MUP this is an undeniable fact that KFOR asked, and MUP performed the arrests in compliance. Which reiterates my point, Kosovo i Metohija has only two shareholders- Serbs and NATO-KFOR. But for Serbia its a much longer-term investment than the temporary presence of Western powers.
(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 13:55)

I wasn't deciding anything, I am predicting the outcome of their protest based on chance; thus it will have no results. Joy isn't a factor here.

And as I have said before, Northern Kosovo is de facto apart of Serbia. And if this is true that Kosovo only has two shareholders (Serbs & NATO-KFOR) then why is it the Kosovo Assembly which calls the shots? Aka deciding who and who may not enter Kosovo (excluding the North which is apart of Serbia). And yes the temporary Western powers will leave Kosovo once it becomes a NATO member.

Which reiterates my point, Kosovo i Metohija has only two shareholders- Serbs and NATO-KFOR. But for Serbia its a much longer-term investment than the temporary presence of Western powers.
(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 13:55)

Not really. The construct you are describing exists only and partially between the Ibar and Jarinje. But that strip is currently not only far from Prishtina but also from Belgrade. It is becoming more and more an open air ghetto for criminals all over the Balkans. When the (patriotic pillager) investments from Serbia finally stop - and this is only a question of time - that area will become the most unattractive area in the whole of Balkans. The young will leave and the old will stay, where eventually the problem will die out. That report also confirms that KFOR is not willing any more to accept violence from Serbs which will eventually wipe out all "businessman" in their patriotic pillage.

Aren't Serbs funny? They don't want their criminals to be arrested. Albanians in Serbia should do the same.

(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 15:39)

My prediction is wrong? So you honestly think that because they're protesting, he'll get released? Now that is what I call delusional.

No KFOR-NATO didn't hand over the right, UNMIK did when they handed over many powers to the Kosovo Assembly.

They let Vulin in because the do allow Serbian politicians to enter Kosovo, however if he starts taking the p***, then they'll ban him as we have seen before with his predecessor.

It hasn't happened because Kosovo hasn't applied yet and Kosovo will come into similar situation as Macedonia if Kosovo were to apply at this moment in time. However it will eventually happen. NATO is the US's gang and if the US wants Kosovo in, the US will make sure it happens; I'm not saying that Spain and co will recognise Kosovo any time soon but the US will force them to allow Kosovo to join NATO.

"no legitimacy in anything you say" Who do you think you are? Do you think you're Joseph Goebbels where you can control what people say and think?

And so what if I support the EU? I think you'll be surprised by how many people in the UK are actually favourable towards the EU. Not everyone is brainwashed by The Sun and The Daily Mail. People in the UK are the most ignorant & uneducated towards the EU, many people don't understand it or how it works; however many who do understand it are generally quite favourable. I once had an argument with a UK campaigner, his knowledge on the EU was appalling.

Oh dear aaayyy give it up, you seriously don't know what you're on about

Serbs are demonstrating one hour and having party for another five hours with KFOR...it depends from the mood in this second, Serbs are changing their mood within seconds. You can not calculate Serbs or with other words you can not built on them.

yes, this would be where logic comes in. you know Sloba's cardinal sin, well one among a billion of them? he did not see dealing with the KLA as a police operation, he saw it as an army job. have you ever read of the Brits bombing Irish villages because of the IRA? or the Spanish leaving nothing but carnage through Basque regions because of ETA? had they done that, they'd have lost their moral ground. but its OK, because we all know the CIA was involved too :-). but the way aaayyy, I never knew those man in masks screaming expletives at us and telling us to go to our Albania, were only doing it for our good. no I stand fully by what i said, you have NO idea what you're on about

And if this is true that Kosovo only has two shareholders (Serbs & NATO-KFOR) then why is it the Kosovo Assembly which calls the shots? Aka deciding who and who may not enter Kosovo (excluding the North which is apart of Serbia). And yes the temporary Western powers will leave Kosovo once it becomes a NATO member.
(Ian, UK, 6 November 2012 14:42)

Your predictions are sh** to be quite honest. And whatever shots the "kosovo assembly" calls, is due to the fact that NATO-KFOR have handed over this right to this quasi assembly.

So tell me this, if the "kosovo assembly" calls the shots as to who can come to Kosovo i Methoija and who cannot, then why was Serbia's Minister for Kosovo i Metohija there last month? What benefit would it serve this alleged assembly to "allow" Vulin to even visit.

And what is most important is the "kosovo assembly" or any "kosovo institution" has no independent means of sustaining itself without Western presence and handouts. How much money will it take until "Kosovo becomes a NATO member". Tell me Ian, why hasn't that happened already since it has been a NATO protectorate since 99?

You are delusional. But above all else you seem bored. You are a EU-rophile which is increasingly being considered a fringe ideology in the UK. You have no legitimacy in anything you say, both here on this forum and also in your home country.

Let me get this straight. They're protesting the release of a man who is to stand trial for the attempted murder of two KFOR soldiers?

No chance!
(Ian, UK, 6 November 2012 13:03)

If only Serbs stood for their soldiers the way KFOR does! Unfortunately Serbian soldiers were killed in dozens in Kosovo by KAlbanians before 1998 but they had no rights to protect themselves - they were ordered not to respond to provocations in order not to make "international community" angry...

Considering the facts of the case - aka what actually happened in Rudare; people are simply protesting the arrest of an innocent man and the absence of prosecution of the people who did actually attempt to murder them by firing live ammo at peaceful demonstrators: fairly understandable! Check any footage of the events, check the dozens of pics circulating the net (where you can see the type of ammo used, the impact on surrounding buildings and the wounds inflicted, clearly not caused by rubber bullets), remember that KFOR only claimed that some of their soldiers had been wounded more than one day after the clash and that nobody ever saw any footages of that...

The fact only positive point in this whole story is the fact that the Serbian police reasserted that they are in charge of policing in Kosmet... hence, demonstrating that the province is still very much under Serbian sovereignty. That this was done at the request of the internationals is interesting; maybe, they are finally starting to understand this reality as well... Nadam se!

My dear Nikolle, you should try to dig up some international reports and records of how Kosovar Albanians acted in 1998, what with the actual attacks, the interpol warrents for Thaci's criminal organization, and wonder to yourself how these internationals whom you lay massive praise to were wrong and thusly changed their minds. Fundamentally, they were wrong in one of their two positions, Thaci is a criminal (the original) or Thaci is a legitimat leader (the updated).
With the size, efficiency of international's agencies it would be shocking to find out that they made a mistake in identifying this criminal organization, and considering it a terroristic one. Much like Al Qaeda was a friend, then a foe, and surprisingly enough now a friend again. It simply shows that NATO and US are willing to befriend their foes in order to achieve what their own geopolitical goals dujour.
aaayyyy, has a very valid point, rank with evidence and truth.

"Jović, the brother of the arrested Slavoljub, said the citizens were demanding that Slavoljub Jović be released pending trial and that their intention was not to influence the proceedings before the Serbian courts in any way.

He appealed to members of KFOR and EULEX to refrain from any moves that could destabilize the north."

Sorry, but the news story was saying that this guy called Jovic was making destabilizing moves by blocking the freedom of movement of Serbs in North Kosovo - KFOR or EULEX did not do any such things !

And what is most important is the "kosovo assembly" or any "kosovo institution" has no independent means of sustaining itself without Western presence and handouts.
(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 15:39)

Exactly, you just provided the best evidence that Kosovo is independent from Serbia. Sure, if it makes you happy, it is dependend on the West, the Yankees, KFOR, UNMIK, the Devil and bla, bla, bla..., but it is independent from Serbia - i.e. Serbia does not call the shots, not even in North Kosovo.

"...had they done that [treated Kosovo as a police operation], the KLA have lost their moral ground"

And if Milosevic had offered Kosovo Albanians the deal they are now offering Kosovo Serbs, the West would have gotten him the Nobel Peace Prize (especially remembering Srebrenica, and desperately wanting to be able to avoid dealing with another such situation). Simply returning autonomy within the Kosovo-Montenegro federation probably would have been enough - most Albanians in Kosovo weren't so crazy as to want to take on the JNA.

Let me get this straight. They're protesting the release of a man who is to stand trial for the attempted murder of two KFOR soldiers?

No chance!
(Ian, UK, 6 November 2012 13:03)

If only Serbs stood for their soldiers the way KFOR does! Unfortunately Serbian soldiers were killed in dozens in Kosovo by KAlbanians before 1998 but they had no rights to protect themselves - they were ordered not to respond to provocations in order not to make "international community" angry...

Let me get this straight. They're protesting the release of a man who is to stand trial for the attempted murder of two KFOR soldiers?

No chance!

One weekend no Insajder report and suddenly the patriotic pillagers re-appear on the road. But the best part is Jovic statement:

"...to call KFOR to account for the attempted mass murder of citizens on June 1 in Rudare..."

No further comment..

No chance!
(Ian, UK, 6 November 2012 13:03)

No chance? ahah wtf are you going to decide who gets released where? Does this really bring joy in your life? Something is clearly wrong with you.

Oh and btw, when it came to arresting alleged criminals in the north last week who was asked to do the arresting? The Serbian MUP this is an undeniable fact that KFOR asked, and MUP performed the arrests in compliance. Which reiterates my point, Kosovo i Metohija has only two shareholders- Serbs and NATO-KFOR. But for Serbia its a much longer-term investment than the temporary presence of Western powers.

And if this is true that Kosovo only has two shareholders (Serbs & NATO-KFOR) then why is it the Kosovo Assembly which calls the shots? Aka deciding who and who may not enter Kosovo (excluding the North which is apart of Serbia). And yes the temporary Western powers will leave Kosovo once it becomes a NATO member.
(Ian, UK, 6 November 2012 14:42)

Your predictions are sh** to be quite honest. And whatever shots the "kosovo assembly" calls, is due to the fact that NATO-KFOR have handed over this right to this quasi assembly.

So tell me this, if the "kosovo assembly" calls the shots as to who can come to Kosovo i Methoija and who cannot, then why was Serbia's Minister for Kosovo i Metohija there last month? What benefit would it serve this alleged assembly to "allow" Vulin to even visit.

And what is most important is the "kosovo assembly" or any "kosovo institution" has no independent means of sustaining itself without Western presence and handouts. How much money will it take until "Kosovo becomes a NATO member". Tell me Ian, why hasn't that happened already since it has been a NATO protectorate since 99?

You are delusional. But above all else you seem bored. You are a EU-rophile which is increasingly being considered a fringe ideology in the UK. You have no legitimacy in anything you say, both here on this forum and also in your home country.

No chance? ahah wtf are you going to decide who gets released where? Does this really bring joy in your life? Something is clearly wrong with you.

Oh and btw, when it came to arresting alleged criminals in the north last week who was asked to do the arresting? The Serbian MUP this is an undeniable fact that KFOR asked, and MUP performed the arrests in compliance. Which reiterates my point, Kosovo i Metohija has only two shareholders- Serbs and NATO-KFOR. But for Serbia its a much longer-term investment than the temporary presence of Western powers.
(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 13:55)

I wasn't deciding anything, I am predicting the outcome of their protest based on chance; thus it will have no results. Joy isn't a factor here.

And as I have said before, Northern Kosovo is de facto apart of Serbia. And if this is true that Kosovo only has two shareholders (Serbs & NATO-KFOR) then why is it the Kosovo Assembly which calls the shots? Aka deciding who and who may not enter Kosovo (excluding the North which is apart of Serbia). And yes the temporary Western powers will leave Kosovo once it becomes a NATO member.

My dear Nikolle, you should try to dig up some international reports and records of how Kosovar Albanians acted in 1998, what with the actual attacks, the interpol warrents for Thaci's criminal organization, and wonder to yourself how these internationals whom you lay massive praise to were wrong and thusly changed their minds. Fundamentally, they were wrong in one of their two positions, Thaci is a criminal (the original) or Thaci is a legitimat leader (the updated).
With the size, efficiency of international's agencies it would be shocking to find out that they made a mistake in identifying this criminal organization, and considering it a terroristic one. Much like Al Qaeda was a friend, then a foe, and surprisingly enough now a friend again. It simply shows that NATO and US are willing to befriend their foes in order to achieve what their own geopolitical goals dujour.
aaayyyy, has a very valid point, rank with evidence and truth.

Aren't Serbs funny? They don't want their criminals to be arrested. Albanians in Serbia should do the same.

Considering the facts of the case - aka what actually happened in Rudare; people are simply protesting the arrest of an innocent man and the absence of prosecution of the people who did actually attempt to murder them by firing live ammo at peaceful demonstrators: fairly understandable! Check any footage of the events, check the dozens of pics circulating the net (where you can see the type of ammo used, the impact on surrounding buildings and the wounds inflicted, clearly not caused by rubber bullets), remember that KFOR only claimed that some of their soldiers had been wounded more than one day after the clash and that nobody ever saw any footages of that...

The fact only positive point in this whole story is the fact that the Serbian police reasserted that they are in charge of policing in Kosmet... hence, demonstrating that the province is still very much under Serbian sovereignty. That this was done at the request of the internationals is interesting; maybe, they are finally starting to understand this reality as well... Nadam se!

Which reiterates my point, Kosovo i Metohija has only two shareholders- Serbs and NATO-KFOR. But for Serbia its a much longer-term investment than the temporary presence of Western powers.
(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 13:55)

Not really. The construct you are describing exists only and partially between the Ibar and Jarinje. But that strip is currently not only far from Prishtina but also from Belgrade. It is becoming more and more an open air ghetto for criminals all over the Balkans. When the (patriotic pillager) investments from Serbia finally stop - and this is only a question of time - that area will become the most unattractive area in the whole of Balkans. The young will leave and the old will stay, where eventually the problem will die out. That report also confirms that KFOR is not willing any more to accept violence from Serbs which will eventually wipe out all "businessman" in their patriotic pillage.

Serbs are demonstrating one hour and having party for another five hours with KFOR...it depends from the mood in this second, Serbs are changing their mood within seconds. You can not calculate Serbs or with other words you can not built on them.

(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 15:39)

My prediction is wrong? So you honestly think that because they're protesting, he'll get released? Now that is what I call delusional.

No KFOR-NATO didn't hand over the right, UNMIK did when they handed over many powers to the Kosovo Assembly.

They let Vulin in because the do allow Serbian politicians to enter Kosovo, however if he starts taking the p***, then they'll ban him as we have seen before with his predecessor.

It hasn't happened because Kosovo hasn't applied yet and Kosovo will come into similar situation as Macedonia if Kosovo were to apply at this moment in time. However it will eventually happen. NATO is the US's gang and if the US wants Kosovo in, the US will make sure it happens; I'm not saying that Spain and co will recognise Kosovo any time soon but the US will force them to allow Kosovo to join NATO.

"no legitimacy in anything you say" Who do you think you are? Do you think you're Joseph Goebbels where you can control what people say and think?

And so what if I support the EU? I think you'll be surprised by how many people in the UK are actually favourable towards the EU. Not everyone is brainwashed by The Sun and The Daily Mail. People in the UK are the most ignorant & uneducated towards the EU, many people don't understand it or how it works; however many who do understand it are generally quite favourable. I once had an argument with a UK campaigner, his knowledge on the EU was appalling.

Oh dear aaayyy give it up, you seriously don't know what you're on about

yes, this would be where logic comes in. you know Sloba's cardinal sin, well one among a billion of them? he did not see dealing with the KLA as a police operation, he saw it as an army job. have you ever read of the Brits bombing Irish villages because of the IRA? or the Spanish leaving nothing but carnage through Basque regions because of ETA? had they done that, they'd have lost their moral ground. but its OK, because we all know the CIA was involved too :-). but the way aaayyy, I never knew those man in masks screaming expletives at us and telling us to go to our Albania, were only doing it for our good. no I stand fully by what i said, you have NO idea what you're on about

"...had they done that [treated Kosovo as a police operation], the KLA have lost their moral ground"

And if Milosevic had offered Kosovo Albanians the deal they are now offering Kosovo Serbs, the West would have gotten him the Nobel Peace Prize (especially remembering Srebrenica, and desperately wanting to be able to avoid dealing with another such situation). Simply returning autonomy within the Kosovo-Montenegro federation probably would have been enough - most Albanians in Kosovo weren't so crazy as to want to take on the JNA.

"Jović, the brother of the arrested Slavoljub, said the citizens were demanding that Slavoljub Jović be released pending trial and that their intention was not to influence the proceedings before the Serbian courts in any way.

He appealed to members of KFOR and EULEX to refrain from any moves that could destabilize the north."

Sorry, but the news story was saying that this guy called Jovic was making destabilizing moves by blocking the freedom of movement of Serbs in North Kosovo - KFOR or EULEX did not do any such things !

And what is most important is the "kosovo assembly" or any "kosovo institution" has no independent means of sustaining itself without Western presence and handouts.
(Ari Gold, 6 November 2012 15:39)

Exactly, you just provided the best evidence that Kosovo is independent from Serbia. Sure, if it makes you happy, it is dependend on the West, the Yankees, KFOR, UNMIK, the Devil and bla, bla, bla..., but it is independent from Serbia - i.e. Serbia does not call the shots, not even in North Kosovo.