President Nikolić: We have solution for Kosovo

I can't wait for them to present this "solution", just so that Kosovo and the EU can "no".

This so called "solution" is an inevitable rejection waiting to happen and should be reffered to as such.

The fact is that Serbs cannot give a damn about Kosova.

This issue is kept alive from mediocre politicians of Serbia who have no vision nor wisdom to create a modern state.

Same goes for most of the "problems" in different Balkan countries... the "name" dispute of FYROM with Greece comes first to my mind.

Nikolic must be a "geneous"....finding the solution that "will satisfy both Serbian and Albanians...." Nobel price for Nikolic......)))

He also found the cure for AIDS, how to feed all starving children in Africa and has developed a system to prevent earthquakes, tsunamis, tornados and droughts! Thank you so much!

“As a president of Serbia I will certainly never speak in Priština but a solution should be found. The problem has been here for years and a solution should be found and I think that we are about to persuade the great forces that they have somehow lost control of the problem. We have a ready solution now, it is meaningless to talk about telecommunication when you do not know whether you are organizing an independent Kosovo or a life in Kosovo,” Nikolić said, adding that “not everything is etched in stone, especially not to the detriment of Serbia”.

"As a president of Serbia I will certainly never speak in Priština", these words alone coming from Toma , explains that he publicly admits that; Kosova is no longer and will never be part of Serbia.

my dear k-albanian friends, you are again and as usual very quick in giving your negative comments here, ...but let me tell you something!

nothing. nothing you do, or your socalled "government", I´d call them actors not politicians, since they are only acting as if they were real politicians...

nothing you do, can make your greater albanian dream come true!

you should come to terms with that simple truth.

you won´t become an UN-member, and you won´t become a state, because Serbia has a say. and that is gonna stay that way all the way until Serbia gets a better position in the international arena. and you should know what that means for you, if you got at least a little bit of brains...

take good care of KiM, the part of if that your international friends are controlling, because we will be back. it is inevitable and you cannot do anything against it.

Jovan, "because we will be back. it is inevitable and you cannot do anything against it."

You are wrong - Lets say serbia succeeds to survive for a very long time and waits for an opportunity to come back. Albanians can always play the diplomatic game and in the same time prepare themselves militarily - just to keep that opportunity to never happen. I'm sure albanains can play this game for a very long time until serbia ceases to exist.

Everybody has a dream, maybe albanians' dream will be realized before serbians' dream. Maybe both dreams will never be realized - then i guess it's better to be friends.

Well some 'Presidential' words from Nikolic on some topics and I hope he means it, but lets take the gloss off shall we?

'The president said that Serbia would meet all the conditions imposed by the EU'. One of those conditions was to come up with a new position on Kosovo, the Serbian government tried to hold the line of the former government, but it was made clear that this would not do. Whether this is a 'solution' for Kosovo remains to be seen. It also remains to be seen if this 'solution' involves Serbia formally giving up the majority of Kosovo for control of Mitrovica and some northern areas - 'not everything is etched in stone' he said. In the Kosovo context this means 'Kosovo je Srbija' is past policy.

Second 'the fight against corruption was one of the conditions imposed by the EU and noted that perception of corruption in Serbia was drastically high'. Its a real shame that the EU has to influence fighting corruption in Serbia and lets not fool ourselves, its not perception that corruption in Serbia is high - corruption in Serbia is high. And so far what has been done? One mid level ex minister has been charged, the rest just words from Vucic. Results...

'I will own up any failures of the government'. With your ex colleagues in the government its doubtful that this is true. The President and Prime Minister do not think the same way, yet obviously its politically sensible as coalition partners (even if Nikolic has left SNS) to present a united front.

You trolls dont even know what it is yet and you are already discrediting it. You are part of the problem, not the solution. Most of it has already been agreed between the parties IMHO, just finer details being worked out. Presentation to the public will be a big job.
(Jeff, 1 November 2012 12:31)

Well unless it involves the recognition of Kosovo by Serbia, which somehow I doubt it will; Pristina will discredit his "solution" for Kosovo.

The way I see it is that during negotiations there will be nothing forced upon Serbia to recognise "Kosova"*. However, if or when it comes to joining the EU, Serbia will have a referendum on membership, which certain EU members will also force to include recognising "Kosova"* as a condition. However, I doubt Serbs will accept this and reject EU membership as a result.

Also, regarding these negotiations, what we will end up with is more than autonomy, less than independence. "Kosova"* will negotiate the best possible position for itself. If the compromise is not fair, we can only expect the situation for Serbia to improve as the global geopolitical situation changes. Serbia should get as many concessions as possible under the existing occupation we find ourselves in.

So lets see if this government can follow through and turn the rhetoric into concrete results.

jovan thank god there is people like you in serbia and i mean a lots of people like you who share the patriotizem in keybord about Kosova.Kosova does not need empty words but needs work and now is us Albanians who are the only ones working in making Kosova better place for us who love our country.As per UN let me tell you that beside waving that flag in 1st River there is no other benefit for us beeing a member of UN.Our official flag is not there but our national is there way beefore yours.Let me tell you one more thing about you coming back to Kosova.Never and maybee not even then.Until in Kosova is the last Albanian there is no foreign foot steping in Kosova as occupier.

Serbia is preparing to ricognize Kosovo as a State. All facts show that.

You trolls dont even know what it is yet and you are already discrediting it. You are part of the problem, not the solution. Most of it has already been agreed between the parties IMHO, just finer details being worked out. Presentation to the public will be a big job.

They were able to conclude in the talks that lasted unusually long, an hour and a half that (PM Ivica) Dačić and I are saying the same things, we are just using different words,”

What it means in reality? only 45 minutes after deduct 45 minutes for translation, and for each particpant about ten minutes time to speak. Possibly for Serbs like Nikolic this is a long time to "work", but in other negotiations there are houndreds of hours. Only for Serbia is a problem a some years a "long period"...there is no passion. The "red lines" by the US/EU are clear: KS is independent and no borders will be changed. Where is there space for Naikolic to make an proposal? Nowhere. Serbia lost KS, lost a war against NATO and has no choice (and first at all NO UNITY/DIGNITY)to act also in this situation. After going the first steps Serbia will have a point of no return in recognizing KS. Its for people from other countries unclear how a poor country like Serbia can look after the economy/live of the people of another country. Serbia should look after the Serbs in Kosovo, but not after the UCK-supporters (99% of the Albanians). The main problem is, that Nikolic, Dacic, Tadic&Co have no interest to develop the own country, see own interests. They are menatlly total dependend from the smallest statement from abroad. And a great Serb-hater from European Parliament was happy that Serbs in Belgrade are speaking not more about the division of Kosovo.

Dacic and nikolic are saying they are not being asked to recognized or that it's a demand but they will and are recognizing kosovo independence because they think it's right - like they abolished the Kosovo minstry and are attending meetings where both Serbia and kosovo are countries and state symbols of Kosovo are shown and it's anthem is played

"We have solution for Kosovo"

So did Milosevic. To bad he couln't finish what he started.

"we are about to persuade the great forces that they have somehow lost control of the problem."

Don't do that.The last time that Serbia "persuaded" the great forces that they had lost control of the problem,Serbia got bombed.There is nothing that Serbia can bring to the table that is better of what Kosovo has now, with the exception of Kosovo's recognition. The maximum that is acceptable to the international community is the two Germanies model. We don't recognize each other but we also don't put any obstacles on each other's way.Serbia in EU only when Kosovo in UN.

Good comments from curiosityxhasxlanded and bganon. Curiosity's analysis of the current government is probably the best I've seen to date. They highlight with a great deal of precision what the realities for nationalist politicians in Serbia have become.

I would just add a reminder that the willingness to be pragmatic is not enough alone. One needs skill, too, and that is something that appears to be in rather short supply.

What he means by 'solution' is the maximal demands which he also asserted are a starting point. They will probably propose extensive autonomy for Kosovo in the like of Alto Adige, Åland etc while hoping for a division. Whatever the case, this is the gov best equipped and with real chances for a solution. However in the event of a solution they will face inevitably an expectations capabilities gap.

In my opinion this gov although radical is realistic and has made real efforts to remove Serbians out of their own way. After all who best able to do it than someone who was part of the problem agrees with nationalists but has realized its limits. Act like Tadic but with the face of a nationalist. That is why Tadic is mostly constructive (to the extent possible) and wants them to solve Kosovo since any solution which could be accepted by EU, US or Kosovo will likely damage this gov. That is if they indeed arrive at a solution in the next two years before Kosovo elections, after which is likely that the opportunity window will be closed for some time.

I can't wait for them to present this "solution", just so that Kosovo and the EU can "no".
(Ian, UK, 1 November 2012 11:21)

I see that you too have a "personal" axe to grind.

At the end of the day, I think Kosovo will be split into two; one part remaining as part of Serbia and the other eventually joining Albania. That's my prediction.

There is a solution for you M. Nicolic.
1. Learn and apply principles of DEMOCRACY, let people choose for their own self how and who should govern them.
2. Make yourself accountable and make serbian lifes better at home. Look forward to Western Europe, USA and economic changes. That is freedom also, and PARAMOUNT freedom at that.
3. Once and for all, humanity is greater than just separate nations. Teach PEACE and you shall receive the same.

Some ex members of the former government with media support were saying that opposition don’t want to participate in government before ending the situation about Kosovo. Now we can see that government is doing much more than anybody expected. We need complete unity between position and opposition on the platform about Kosovo.

This might be the smartest thing I've seen coming out of Serbia in a long time.

If Serbia want to play this out and still keep their "top spade card" in their hand for the last draw they could ending up winning a lot in exchange for losing Kosova.

Agree to whatever with the great powers minus independence. Save that for last so you don't end up like turkey. When it comes to the final decision Serbia can say " ok we recognize kosova in return for eu membership.

The only thing that could break this deal for Serbia is if Albania joins eu first.

Anyways, once Serbia agrees to establishing and demarcing the border w kosova then it will be up for vote in UN. Russia will not veto because like they said before. They can't be more Serb than Serbs.

God bless you all

I don't know what's more frustrating; trying to read all of this atrocious writing, or that there are Serbs still trying to hold on to territory that is 90% Albanian. Kosovo is independent right now, and in the not so distant future both Russia and China will recognize it too. It will be a part of both the EU and the UN. For all the Serbs who still cling to the belief that Kosovo will be restored, get a grip! The US is the one carrying the big stick. Did you forget that Russia did nothing for Serbia when it was bombed by NATO? Don't kid yourselves, the Russians are waiting for a payoff, as are the Chinese. Samo sloga!

Also, regarding these negotiations, what we will end up with is more than autonomy, less than independence. "Kosova"* will negotiate the best possible position for itself. If the compromise is not fair, we can only expect the situation for Serbia to improve as the global geopolitical situation changes. Serbia should get as many concessions as possible under the existing occupation we find ourselves in.

(Zoran, 1 November 2012 12:16)

I see it somewhat that way too. The President of Kosovo* and the President of Serbia are two different roles over the area recognised by the UN as Serbia. Tadic fought hard against Rambouillet which is exactly what some wanted. Nikolic perhaps has struck an agreement with some powers that be, that being Kosovo with it's people.

" don't know what's more frustrating; trying to read all of this atrocious writing, or that there are Serbs still trying to hold on to territory that is 90% Albanian. Kosovo is independent right now, and in the not so distant future both Russia and China will recognize it too. It will be a part of both the EU and the UN. For all the Serbs who still cling to the belief that Kosovo will be restored, get a grip! The US is the one carrying the big stick. Did you forget that Russia did nothing for Serbia when it was bombed by NATO? Don't kid yourselves, the Russians are waiting for a payoff, as are the Chinese. Samo sloga!
(zivko, 2 November 2012 01:07) "

Methinks you're gonna remain frustrated for a long time to come. Unlike you, methinks neither China nor Russia, in their own self-interests, is gonna recognize "Kosova" much less admit it into the UN in the future. At least not till Pristina gets an agreement with Belgrade.

And you seem to think that Yeltsin (that drunken president back in 1999) and Putin are of the same mould. And that EU 1999 is financially the same as the one today.

The number one fact us the abolition of the Kosovo ministry the number two fact is the international conferences where Serbia says it will a accept Kosovo at meetings for countries where flags will be flown and anhema played and there will be maps of europe that show Kosovo as a country like serbia

Yeah you have a solution, to recognize Kosovo and move on, that's the only solution you got

"Serbia is preparing to ricognize Kosovo as a State. All facts show that.
(Dudan, 1 November 2012 15:42)"

ALL facts show that????? Really???? Please share them with us -- remember, we want facts (as you claimed), not your own opinions.

You mean like a giant wall running down the country?
(Goran., 1 November 2012 20:34)

No.Not a wall. A wall will make contraband and trafficking difficult, and that is how politicians on both sides make some of their millions. So, no wall.

"we are about to persuade the great forces that they have somehow lost control of the problem."

Don't do that.The last time that Serbia "persuaded" the great forces that they had lost control of the problem,Serbia got bombed.There is nothing that Serbia can bring to the table that is better of what Kosovo has now, with the exception of Kosovo's recognition. The maximum that is acceptable to the international community is the two Germanies model. We don't recognize each other but we also don't put any obstacles on each other's way.Serbia in EU only when Kosovo in UN.
(Mark, 1 November 2012 18:57)


You mean like a giant wall running down the country?

Tomislav, I am in the United States and hope you get this urgent message. It is of global importance and can prevent the apocalypse as written in the holy bible. Alija Izetbegović is a colleague of a recently released terrorist, Muhammad al-Zawahiri, the brother of Taliban Leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Muhammad met with Izetbegović to develop a Muslim Army to counteract the Christian Serbs and Croats (Roman Catholic and Orthodox) as he knew roughly 40% of the population was Islamic at that time. There were 7 Corps (biblical) and a 7th "Muslim Brigade" which is also of biblical importance. His son was raised with Islamic principles that he will use to awaken the largest presence of Muslim fighters into Europe. The Islamic world map demonstrates Albania as the most densely populated Islamic % below Europe and it will be given an open door. It may sound crazy, but you have to believe me and do something before it is too late. I pray to God that if you do not read this, someone sends it to you immediately.. or it may be too late.

Did you forget that Russia did nothing for Serbia when it was bombed by NATO? Don't kid yourselves, the Russians are waiting for a payoff, as are the Chinese. Samo sloga!
(zivko, 2 November 2012 01:07)
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Did you forget that, that was the time when Russia was weak and the US still strong?
Things have changed dramatically since then? Did you not notice?

The Grey Wolves built the KLA, and it was strengthened by "The Snake" who serves in a high ranking position. There is a Democratic Party that hides their ties to Turkey in order to attack Christians. I do notice the Serpent is near, but none in my homeland of Serbia agree. As a true Serb, I have created an organization with local friends to investigate connections between Mujaheddin fighters and Albanian mafia members. NATO will protect Serbs if the war on terror is acknowledged. If only the police did this same work and provided information to international countries. Then, NATO would support a different stand. If anyone thinks it is useless, ask how many "wanted terrorists" have been in the Balkans and none have been reported. Evil can only exist if good people do Nothing and I will stand.

"What he means by 'solution' is the maximal demands which he also asserted are a starting point. "
(Curiosityxhasxlanded, 1 November 2012 13:13)

In this way, Nikolic is similar to Thaci. Maybe the difference is that Thaci is living in a dream world and in the illusion that no solution is needed because everything is done and Kosovo's status is settled. We all know that it's not, and that Kosovo is a disputed territory.

But it is not surprising, Kosovo becoming a real state and UN member with some minimal European and democratic standards would be detrimental to the drug business of his clan mates.

my dear k-albanian friends, you are again and as usual very quick in giving your negative comments here, ...but let me tell you something!

nothing. nothing you do, or your socalled "government", I´d call them actors not politicians, since they are only acting as if they were real politicians...

nothing you do, can make your greater albanian dream come true!

you should come to terms with that simple truth.

you won´t become an UN-member, and you won´t become a state, because Serbia has a say. and that is gonna stay that way all the way until Serbia gets a better position in the international arena. and you should know what that means for you, if you got at least a little bit of brains...

take good care of KiM, the part of if that your international friends are controlling, because we will be back. it is inevitable and you cannot do anything against it.

The fact is that Serbs cannot give a damn about Kosova.

This issue is kept alive from mediocre politicians of Serbia who have no vision nor wisdom to create a modern state.

Same goes for most of the "problems" in different Balkan countries... the "name" dispute of FYROM with Greece comes first to my mind.

I can't wait for them to present this "solution", just so that Kosovo and the EU can "no".

This so called "solution" is an inevitable rejection waiting to happen and should be reffered to as such.

Nikolic must be a "geneous"....finding the solution that "will satisfy both Serbian and Albanians...." Nobel price for Nikolic......)))

“As a president of Serbia I will certainly never speak in Priština but a solution should be found. The problem has been here for years and a solution should be found and I think that we are about to persuade the great forces that they have somehow lost control of the problem. We have a ready solution now, it is meaningless to talk about telecommunication when you do not know whether you are organizing an independent Kosovo or a life in Kosovo,” Nikolić said, adding that “not everything is etched in stone, especially not to the detriment of Serbia”.

"As a president of Serbia I will certainly never speak in Priština", these words alone coming from Toma , explains that he publicly admits that; Kosova is no longer and will never be part of Serbia.

The way I see it is that during negotiations there will be nothing forced upon Serbia to recognise "Kosova"*. However, if or when it comes to joining the EU, Serbia will have a referendum on membership, which certain EU members will also force to include recognising "Kosova"* as a condition. However, I doubt Serbs will accept this and reject EU membership as a result.

Also, regarding these negotiations, what we will end up with is more than autonomy, less than independence. "Kosova"* will negotiate the best possible position for itself. If the compromise is not fair, we can only expect the situation for Serbia to improve as the global geopolitical situation changes. Serbia should get as many concessions as possible under the existing occupation we find ourselves in.

So lets see if this government can follow through and turn the rhetoric into concrete results.

He also found the cure for AIDS, how to feed all starving children in Africa and has developed a system to prevent earthquakes, tsunamis, tornados and droughts! Thank you so much!

They were able to conclude in the talks that lasted unusually long, an hour and a half that (PM Ivica) Dačić and I are saying the same things, we are just using different words,”

What it means in reality? only 45 minutes after deduct 45 minutes for translation, and for each particpant about ten minutes time to speak. Possibly for Serbs like Nikolic this is a long time to "work", but in other negotiations there are houndreds of hours. Only for Serbia is a problem a some years a "long period"...there is no passion. The "red lines" by the US/EU are clear: KS is independent and no borders will be changed. Where is there space for Naikolic to make an proposal? Nowhere. Serbia lost KS, lost a war against NATO and has no choice (and first at all NO UNITY/DIGNITY)to act also in this situation. After going the first steps Serbia will have a point of no return in recognizing KS. Its for people from other countries unclear how a poor country like Serbia can look after the economy/live of the people of another country. Serbia should look after the Serbs in Kosovo, but not after the UCK-supporters (99% of the Albanians). The main problem is, that Nikolic, Dacic, Tadic&Co have no interest to develop the own country, see own interests. They are menatlly total dependend from the smallest statement from abroad. And a great Serb-hater from European Parliament was happy that Serbs in Belgrade are speaking not more about the division of Kosovo.

You trolls dont even know what it is yet and you are already discrediting it. You are part of the problem, not the solution. Most of it has already been agreed between the parties IMHO, just finer details being worked out. Presentation to the public will be a big job.

"We have solution for Kosovo"

So did Milosevic. To bad he couln't finish what he started.

I can't wait for them to present this "solution", just so that Kosovo and the EU can "no".
(Ian, UK, 1 November 2012 11:21)

I see that you too have a "personal" axe to grind.

At the end of the day, I think Kosovo will be split into two; one part remaining as part of Serbia and the other eventually joining Albania. That's my prediction.

Also, regarding these negotiations, what we will end up with is more than autonomy, less than independence. "Kosova"* will negotiate the best possible position for itself. If the compromise is not fair, we can only expect the situation for Serbia to improve as the global geopolitical situation changes. Serbia should get as many concessions as possible under the existing occupation we find ourselves in.

(Zoran, 1 November 2012 12:16)

I see it somewhat that way too. The President of Kosovo* and the President of Serbia are two different roles over the area recognised by the UN as Serbia. Tadic fought hard against Rambouillet which is exactly what some wanted. Nikolic perhaps has struck an agreement with some powers that be, that being Kosovo with it's people.

"What he means by 'solution' is the maximal demands which he also asserted are a starting point. "
(Curiosityxhasxlanded, 1 November 2012 13:13)

In this way, Nikolic is similar to Thaci. Maybe the difference is that Thaci is living in a dream world and in the illusion that no solution is needed because everything is done and Kosovo's status is settled. We all know that it's not, and that Kosovo is a disputed territory.

But it is not surprising, Kosovo becoming a real state and UN member with some minimal European and democratic standards would be detrimental to the drug business of his clan mates.

You trolls dont even know what it is yet and you are already discrediting it. You are part of the problem, not the solution. Most of it has already been agreed between the parties IMHO, just finer details being worked out. Presentation to the public will be a big job.
(Jeff, 1 November 2012 12:31)

Well unless it involves the recognition of Kosovo by Serbia, which somehow I doubt it will; Pristina will discredit his "solution" for Kosovo.

Serbia is preparing to ricognize Kosovo as a State. All facts show that.

Well some 'Presidential' words from Nikolic on some topics and I hope he means it, but lets take the gloss off shall we?

'The president said that Serbia would meet all the conditions imposed by the EU'. One of those conditions was to come up with a new position on Kosovo, the Serbian government tried to hold the line of the former government, but it was made clear that this would not do. Whether this is a 'solution' for Kosovo remains to be seen. It also remains to be seen if this 'solution' involves Serbia formally giving up the majority of Kosovo for control of Mitrovica and some northern areas - 'not everything is etched in stone' he said. In the Kosovo context this means 'Kosovo je Srbija' is past policy.

Second 'the fight against corruption was one of the conditions imposed by the EU and noted that perception of corruption in Serbia was drastically high'. Its a real shame that the EU has to influence fighting corruption in Serbia and lets not fool ourselves, its not perception that corruption in Serbia is high - corruption in Serbia is high. And so far what has been done? One mid level ex minister has been charged, the rest just words from Vucic. Results...

'I will own up any failures of the government'. With your ex colleagues in the government its doubtful that this is true. The President and Prime Minister do not think the same way, yet obviously its politically sensible as coalition partners (even if Nikolic has left SNS) to present a united front.

jovan thank god there is people like you in serbia and i mean a lots of people like you who share the patriotizem in keybord about Kosova.Kosova does not need empty words but needs work and now is us Albanians who are the only ones working in making Kosova better place for us who love our country.As per UN let me tell you that beside waving that flag in 1st River there is no other benefit for us beeing a member of UN.Our official flag is not there but our national is there way beefore yours.Let me tell you one more thing about you coming back to Kosova.Never and maybee not even then.Until in Kosova is the last Albanian there is no foreign foot steping in Kosova as occupier.

What he means by 'solution' is the maximal demands which he also asserted are a starting point. They will probably propose extensive autonomy for Kosovo in the like of Alto Adige, Åland etc while hoping for a division. Whatever the case, this is the gov best equipped and with real chances for a solution. However in the event of a solution they will face inevitably an expectations capabilities gap.

In my opinion this gov although radical is realistic and has made real efforts to remove Serbians out of their own way. After all who best able to do it than someone who was part of the problem agrees with nationalists but has realized its limits. Act like Tadic but with the face of a nationalist. That is why Tadic is mostly constructive (to the extent possible) and wants them to solve Kosovo since any solution which could be accepted by EU, US or Kosovo will likely damage this gov. That is if they indeed arrive at a solution in the next two years before Kosovo elections, after which is likely that the opportunity window will be closed for some time.

Jovan, "because we will be back. it is inevitable and you cannot do anything against it."

You are wrong - Lets say serbia succeeds to survive for a very long time and waits for an opportunity to come back. Albanians can always play the diplomatic game and in the same time prepare themselves militarily - just to keep that opportunity to never happen. I'm sure albanains can play this game for a very long time until serbia ceases to exist.

Everybody has a dream, maybe albanians' dream will be realized before serbians' dream. Maybe both dreams will never be realized - then i guess it's better to be friends.

Dacic and nikolic are saying they are not being asked to recognized or that it's a demand but they will and are recognizing kosovo independence because they think it's right - like they abolished the Kosovo minstry and are attending meetings where both Serbia and kosovo are countries and state symbols of Kosovo are shown and it's anthem is played

Some ex members of the former government with media support were saying that opposition don’t want to participate in government before ending the situation about Kosovo. Now we can see that government is doing much more than anybody expected. We need complete unity between position and opposition on the platform about Kosovo.

"we are about to persuade the great forces that they have somehow lost control of the problem."

Don't do that.The last time that Serbia "persuaded" the great forces that they had lost control of the problem,Serbia got bombed.There is nothing that Serbia can bring to the table that is better of what Kosovo has now, with the exception of Kosovo's recognition. The maximum that is acceptable to the international community is the two Germanies model. We don't recognize each other but we also don't put any obstacles on each other's way.Serbia in EU only when Kosovo in UN.

"we are about to persuade the great forces that they have somehow lost control of the problem."

Don't do that.The last time that Serbia "persuaded" the great forces that they had lost control of the problem,Serbia got bombed.There is nothing that Serbia can bring to the table that is better of what Kosovo has now, with the exception of Kosovo's recognition. The maximum that is acceptable to the international community is the two Germanies model. We don't recognize each other but we also don't put any obstacles on each other's way.Serbia in EU only when Kosovo in UN.
(Mark, 1 November 2012 18:57)


You mean like a giant wall running down the country?

I don't know what's more frustrating; trying to read all of this atrocious writing, or that there are Serbs still trying to hold on to territory that is 90% Albanian. Kosovo is independent right now, and in the not so distant future both Russia and China will recognize it too. It will be a part of both the EU and the UN. For all the Serbs who still cling to the belief that Kosovo will be restored, get a grip! The US is the one carrying the big stick. Did you forget that Russia did nothing for Serbia when it was bombed by NATO? Don't kid yourselves, the Russians are waiting for a payoff, as are the Chinese. Samo sloga!

Good comments from curiosityxhasxlanded and bganon. Curiosity's analysis of the current government is probably the best I've seen to date. They highlight with a great deal of precision what the realities for nationalist politicians in Serbia have become.

I would just add a reminder that the willingness to be pragmatic is not enough alone. One needs skill, too, and that is something that appears to be in rather short supply.

" don't know what's more frustrating; trying to read all of this atrocious writing, or that there are Serbs still trying to hold on to territory that is 90% Albanian. Kosovo is independent right now, and in the not so distant future both Russia and China will recognize it too. It will be a part of both the EU and the UN. For all the Serbs who still cling to the belief that Kosovo will be restored, get a grip! The US is the one carrying the big stick. Did you forget that Russia did nothing for Serbia when it was bombed by NATO? Don't kid yourselves, the Russians are waiting for a payoff, as are the Chinese. Samo sloga!
(zivko, 2 November 2012 01:07) "

Methinks you're gonna remain frustrated for a long time to come. Unlike you, methinks neither China nor Russia, in their own self-interests, is gonna recognize "Kosova" much less admit it into the UN in the future. At least not till Pristina gets an agreement with Belgrade.

And you seem to think that Yeltsin (that drunken president back in 1999) and Putin are of the same mould. And that EU 1999 is financially the same as the one today.

"Serbia is preparing to ricognize Kosovo as a State. All facts show that.
(Dudan, 1 November 2012 15:42)"

ALL facts show that????? Really???? Please share them with us -- remember, we want facts (as you claimed), not your own opinions.

Tomislav, I am in the United States and hope you get this urgent message. It is of global importance and can prevent the apocalypse as written in the holy bible. Alija Izetbegović is a colleague of a recently released terrorist, Muhammad al-Zawahiri, the brother of Taliban Leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Muhammad met with Izetbegović to develop a Muslim Army to counteract the Christian Serbs and Croats (Roman Catholic and Orthodox) as he knew roughly 40% of the population was Islamic at that time. There were 7 Corps (biblical) and a 7th "Muslim Brigade" which is also of biblical importance. His son was raised with Islamic principles that he will use to awaken the largest presence of Muslim fighters into Europe. The Islamic world map demonstrates Albania as the most densely populated Islamic % below Europe and it will be given an open door. It may sound crazy, but you have to believe me and do something before it is too late. I pray to God that if you do not read this, someone sends it to you immediately.. or it may be too late.

There is a solution for you M. Nicolic.
1. Learn and apply principles of DEMOCRACY, let people choose for their own self how and who should govern them.
2. Make yourself accountable and make serbian lifes better at home. Look forward to Western Europe, USA and economic changes. That is freedom also, and PARAMOUNT freedom at that.
3. Once and for all, humanity is greater than just separate nations. Teach PEACE and you shall receive the same.

This might be the smartest thing I've seen coming out of Serbia in a long time.

If Serbia want to play this out and still keep their "top spade card" in their hand for the last draw they could ending up winning a lot in exchange for losing Kosova.

Agree to whatever with the great powers minus independence. Save that for last so you don't end up like turkey. When it comes to the final decision Serbia can say " ok we recognize kosova in return for eu membership.

The only thing that could break this deal for Serbia is if Albania joins eu first.

Anyways, once Serbia agrees to establishing and demarcing the border w kosova then it will be up for vote in UN. Russia will not veto because like they said before. They can't be more Serb than Serbs.

God bless you all

Yeah you have a solution, to recognize Kosovo and move on, that's the only solution you got

Did you forget that Russia did nothing for Serbia when it was bombed by NATO? Don't kid yourselves, the Russians are waiting for a payoff, as are the Chinese. Samo sloga!
(zivko, 2 November 2012 01:07)
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Did you forget that, that was the time when Russia was weak and the US still strong?
Things have changed dramatically since then? Did you not notice?

The Grey Wolves built the KLA, and it was strengthened by "The Snake" who serves in a high ranking position. There is a Democratic Party that hides their ties to Turkey in order to attack Christians. I do notice the Serpent is near, but none in my homeland of Serbia agree. As a true Serb, I have created an organization with local friends to investigate connections between Mujaheddin fighters and Albanian mafia members. NATO will protect Serbs if the war on terror is acknowledged. If only the police did this same work and provided information to international countries. Then, NATO would support a different stand. If anyone thinks it is useless, ask how many "wanted terrorists" have been in the Balkans and none have been reported. Evil can only exist if good people do Nothing and I will stand.

You mean like a giant wall running down the country?
(Goran., 1 November 2012 20:34)

No.Not a wall. A wall will make contraband and trafficking difficult, and that is how politicians on both sides make some of their millions. So, no wall.

The number one fact us the abolition of the Kosovo ministry the number two fact is the international conferences where Serbia says it will a accept Kosovo at meetings for countries where flags will be flown and anhema played and there will be maps of europe that show Kosovo as a country like serbia