Kosovo is Serbia’s internal issue, UNGA president says

"The former Serbian foreign minister said that his job was to look after sovereignty and territorial integrity of all UN members, including Serbia."

I'm sure that Georgia was welcoming Jeremic' statement. Did Putin TV mention that part? I bet not... hohoho..

“Kosovo is Serbia’s internal issue, confirmed by parameters stated in the UN Security Council Resolution 1244,” Jeremić explained.

I wish Vuk has the guts to say that ,this statement is on capacity as a UNGA President, if he made such statement!!!??? Time will tell,right?

Lol what an phoney. Do you want an war to understand that Kosova is not an part of Serbia?

In 1989 we all know how Serbia treated it's "internal issues" . Not to mention 1998-99 when you tryed to solve your "internal issues" for good.

Kosova is independent and Serbia cant do nothing about it !!

How is it internal? you have no authority in Kosovo what so ever, maybe in your sick brain. Do you see any serb police or serb army killing children or raping women in Kosovo- NO! because you have no more authority in Kosova.

No matter where this guy goes he never stops telling 'jokes'.

“Kosovo is Serbia’s internal issue, confirmed by parameters stated in the UN Security Council Resolution 1244,” Jeremić explained.

Point me where in the resolution it states that claim.


Sincerely,

I really think Jeremic needs a good health check. I did not expect him to go down that fast in his judgments....Last time I heared "Kosovo an internal issue for Serbia....." when Milloshevic was alive and before the lasr war for Kosovo started.....

I'm sure that Georgia was welcoming Jeremic' statement. Did Putin TV mention that part? I bet not... hohoho..
(Commentator, 14 October 2012 15:55)
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The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.

"Serbia is internal issue of Kosova" lol

"UN General Assembly President Vuk Jeremić has stated that the issue of Kosovo is Serbia's internal issue."

Seriously?

Resolutions on "Serbia's internal issue" preceding UNSCR 1244:
United Nations Security Council resolution 1239 of 14 May 1999; United Nations Security Council resolution 1203 of 24 October 1998; United Nations Security Council resolution 1199 of 23 September 1998; and United Nations Security Council resolution 1160 of 31 March 1998; amongst others. Available at www.un.org/Docs/sc.

4 resolutions on an internal issue of Serbia issued by his current employer. This guy is as clueless as ever.

Wow this statement came from the UNGA president?, that should make people stand up and take notice----NOT!

I could have sworn that UNSC 1244 stated explicitly that Kosovo status was the DIRECT responsibility of the International Community as laid out in 11-e of the body of the document. There are probably unlimited copies of the document at the UN headquarters certainly Jeremic can come up with one and give facts and not Serbian fantasies.

Too bad for Serbia it's such a short gig.

how was this evil man ever made president of the UN?! eleanor roosevelt would be turning in her grave...

Being uneducated and naive is one thing, but being educated and yet being naive is a different and very sad thing. Thank you. Peace for all.

I cannot imagine any government which would retain a Minister who has no concept of the expression 'conflict of interest'. This person should be fired immediately from both the UNGA and his position in Serbia. As for his opinion of course it is laughable and does him no credit. When an artificially created state like Serbia has tried and failed through thuggery to hold itself together by force, and in the process killing many of its citizens, destroying their education system, etc etc, then its only option is to try to persuade the world that it is reformed and civilised and wants back what it lost and everything will be sweetness and light. The fact of course is that it's all too late. Europe will not forget the appalling way in which Serbia's democratically elected government behaved and Serbia will never enter the EU or NATO while it persists with this nonsense, in fact it might as well give up now and this young man should get a life. Do the Serbs imagine that the 27 soon 28 EU countries will vote for a country which has embarked on a programme of mass murder less than 20 years ago? This is sad but while your representatives preach nonsense you are lost. You should reconcile with Kosovo, recognise it and get on with developing the economy of your part of the world for the sake of your young people.

“Kosovo is Serbia’s internal issue, confirmed by parameters stated in the UN Security Council Resolution 1244,” Jeremić explained.

That's correct... Kosovo is defined by the parameters of Kosovo's Declaration of Independence which is in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. Jeremic worked tirelessly to have that clarified :)

how was this evil man ever made president of the UN?! eleanor roosevelt would be turning in her grave...
(roberto, 14 October 2012 18:26)

She would probably crap in her grave if a bunch of Albanian zombies went on a rampage in her cemetery
throwing dead cattle all around, breaking headstones and crosses, ripping off gates and fencing...

I see our Albo trolls are out in numbers on this one… Truth hurts I guess. lol

Your Excellency Vuk Jeremic, President of the 67th Session of the United Nations, ... the wack-job, middle-school teacher from frisco, roberto, and several other small individuals here ... are jealous of you.

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@KOSO

you albanians seriously do not know how to read, i know your education system is lacking and you people clearly don't have any common sense due to the fact that you endorse and support corrpution and crime in kosovo through the criminals and terrorists that are in pristina

kosovo is serbia's internal matter because un security resolution 1244 reaffirmed FR Yugoslavia's (now Serbia's) territorial integrity and sovereignty over Kosovo, with kosovo obtaining substantial autonomy over its economy and political system .. it basically meant that kosovo was still a province of serbia

It even said so in un security council resolution 1244:

"Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex"

this is slightly bias coming from VUK!!

IF Kosovo never becomes part of the UN, Serbia will never become part of EU, and people of this website this is much more important then some fairy tale UN that actually never stopped anyone from murdering millions of people across the world and the especially Kosovo.

happy thinking VUK

World, seems, has not diplomat statesman, but 1389 fantasy clown.

The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.
(Zoran, 14 October 2012 18:00)

Zorane, I would pay for it if Jeremic would say exactly that. I'm breathless of anticipation to see what will come next from our Serbian comical Alis. This is big screen cinema, since the days when Charlie Chaplin was cooking and eating his own shoe..

All right since the Albanians seem to be making up their own versions of 1244, here's what Vuk is referring to:

"Reaffirm the commitment of UN member states to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex 2 of UNSCR 1244" (Albanians, curiously, are not signatories to the Helsinki Final Act, go figure, hey?)

Within the Helsinki Final Act, there are provisions guaranteeing territorial integrity, non-intervention in states' affairs and fulfilment of international law, amongst others.

Here are the other provisions of 1244 that are being violated:

"Allow for the return of an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel to maintain a presence at Serbian Patrimonial sites and key border crossings;" None have been allowed to return, leading to the 2004 pogrom.

"Require the UN to assure the safe and unimpeded return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants of the province;" Returnee houses are burnt and returnees murdered.

Give the resolution a read before making up your own.

The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.
(Zoran, 14 October 2012 18:00)
We have a winner for BS statement of the year. The ONLY connection the Georgian provinces have with Kosovo is Russia wanted to thumb its nose at the west, and it had promised the world that if Kosovo were allowed to declare independence then it would open a pandoras box and there would be secessionist movements all over the world. When this failed Russia tried to kick start it, but like a dead animal it just lay there.

The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.
(Zoran, 14 October 2012 18:00)

No, it's a consequence of Georgia being a neighbor of Russia. Funnily, that country pretends to have a 'principled stance' on territorial integrity of sovereign nations - but as we see, it's only hypocrisy.

If Kosova is Serb internal problem ,than why Mr. smarty asked ICJ opinion,and not Serb court?!

(Ron, 15 October 2012 02:35)

Your claims are not supported by the UNSC:

"By unanimously adopting resolution 1225 (1999), the Council demanded that the Georgian and the Abkhaz parties expand their commitment to the United Nations-led peace process, underlining the necessity for an early and comprehensive political settlement. That should include the political status of Abkhazia, and full respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia within its internationally recognized borders."

UN Res. 1225 clearly states that the issue of Georgia's breakaway provinces must be solved within Georgia's borders, something what you will not find in UN Res. 1244 where the final result of Kosovo does not include those conditioned boundaries. Of course, we can still argue if a final confirmation of the UNSC is necessary which might finalize the UN-mediated talks by Marti Athisaari, but that is not only something different but also not demanded in the ICJ ruling which did not supported Serbia's stance. Serbia had the chance to call ICJ for all(!) disputed points and failed epicly.

In fact, Ron, you just proved that your constant Blabla is just hot air. Russia violated Georgia's territorial integrity and I can't wait to see the stance of the so-called UNGA president in that matter. My guess, however, is that Jeremic will wiggle like a worm trying to avoid any statement in that reference and making clear what a bad joke he and his statements are, once again.

Kosovo is Serbia's internal issue? This guy is really smoking something that no other politician has put their hands on so far.
Who decides for Kosovo's affairs? Is it Serbia or Kosovo's institutions.
As a montenegrin, which we have really close relationships with serbs, i really feel ashamed of Vuk Jeremic because he makes every serb embarrased in front of the world.

Mr Jeremic you'r hero good job for serbia senndin milosevic to hage and karadic and mladic how much more you can do next send nikolic to hage and the rest...jurovic.............

!!!At the moment of declaration of independence Kosovo* Albanians were not under threat,
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 09:34
I don't think requiring international troops to be present to keep Serbs from reattacking Albanians really qualifies as "Albanians were not under threat" The popular phrase here seems to be wait until the internationals leave. That pretty much proves the threat is still there and probably would be forever.

Was, prior to 1999 liberation! You & your fellow crony politicians back in serbia should focus on trying to protect of what is left of Serbia! Cause in the very near future i pridict you will see other parts of your beloved Serbia breaking away! The time draws near! You better have your armaments factory working 24/7, your going to need them pal!

alex,

It is not as simplistic as you are trying to represent the UN resolution. If we follow your logic and Jeremic logic as "Kosovo is an internal issue....." let me challenge you and Jermic....Kosovo is still there "go and take it" if you have got guts.
(EA, 14 October 2012 23:40)

How Albanians love to say this, hiding behind the armies of other nations. Cowards.

I see our Albo trolls are out in numbers on this one… Truth hurts I guess. lol
(usaSERB, 14 October 2012 20:17)
Truth about what!!!??? LOL and really you call this guy a politician my 80 year old grandmother has more brain, anytime he talk nonsense not only he will look like dumb but whole Serbian political machinery will look same not because i'm saying that because Serbia choose him as representative ... so enjoy the show anytime you see him i love it he make me laugh anytime ...

Vuce is really working very hard against his own national interest! Once he opens his mouth, Serbia moves one step backward from EU!

Pity!

Commentator,

Why don't the US, Germany, Great Britain, etc. recognize S.Ossetia and Abhazia?

alex,

It is not as simplistic as you are trying to represent the UN resolution. If we follow your logic and Jeremic logic as "Kosovo is an internal issue....." let me challenge you and Jermic....Kosovo is still there "go and take it" if you have got guts.

The most hilarious story told so far by Vuk!

And...
"Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, taking into account the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648);

In a final stage, overseeing the transfer of authority from Kosovo's provisional institutions to institutions established under a political settlement;"

So, it reaffirmed Yugoslavia's sovereignty in the beginning (while practically stripping it of all authority in Kosovo), with final status to be decided through a political process.

As I re-read UNSC 1244, I again was surprised that Serbians would even THINK of quoting it. If I were Serbian, I couldn't read the resolution without being overcome by shame. Whatever this document is, it is not something that was written to protect Serbian interests...

He stressed that the UN took care of territorial integrity of its members, “which Serbia is and Kosovo is not”.
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Very well said.

Comm Parisson, if you were a president of Russia what would you say to Ossetians and Abhazians who would ask you why it was possible for Kosovo* to make an attempt on independence, while it is impossible for us?

!!!At the moment of declaration of independence Kosovo* Albanians were not under threat, while Ossetians were under threat from Georgia.

!!!At the moment of declaration of independence Kosovo* Albanians were not under threat,
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 09:34
I don't think requiring international troops to be present to keep Serbs from reattacking Albanians really qualifies as "Albanians were not under threat" The popular phrase here seems to be wait until the internationals leave. That pretty much proves the threat is still there and probably would be forever.
(pss, 15 October 2012 10:36)

Well, let's assume that Albanians needed international troops to protect them. But international troops did it before 2008 WITHOUT declaration of Kosovo* independence.

to pss:
Independence of Kosovo* wasn't necessary in 2008 for international troops to stay in Kosovo and protect your Albanians.

Allow for the return of an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel to maintain a presence at Serbian Patrimonial sites and key border crossings;" None have been allowed to return, leading to the 2004 pogrom.

"Require the UN to assure the safe and unimpeded return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants of the province;" Returnee houses are burnt and returnees murdered.

Give the resolution a read before making up your own.
(Anonymoose, 14 October 2012 21:04)
Maybe you should follow your own advice and use a little common sense to go with it.
To date: Serbia has Made no request, nada, zip, zero for any police or military personnel to return under the provisions of 1244. So there is no such violation, plus even if any had returned their duties were so limited that it would have had no effect during 2004.
Ironically the dispaced Serbs happened after 1244 as they fled when Serb forces left Kosovo, so technically 1244 does not really cover the future people who were to leave.

Mr. Jeremic seems to define Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

On Kosovo, Abkhazia, Ossetia - PLEASE READ!

The USSR constitution stated that if a Republic (say Georgia) wants to leave the union that autonomous regions within that republic had the option to stay within the USSR.

So when Georgia wanted to leave the USSR (Georgia was allowed to do that!) it should have given Abkhazia and South Ossetia the option to stay in the USSR. Georgia did not.

This is a very important difference with Kosovo.

So why the world does not tell Georgia: hey, well, you know, you actually were wrong 20 years ago. Have a referendum now in Abkhazia and Ossetia.

Then both regions will vote to leave the Georgian state. Problems solved. Georgia can maybe even join EU or NATO. Georgia happy. Abkhazia happy. Ossetia happy.

So I ask you all: why not solve this problem now?

to pss:
Independence of Kosovo* wasn't necessary in 2008 for international troops to stay in Kosovo and protect your Albanians.
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 11:57)
You said the Albanians were not under threat in 2008, I say they were, are and will be in the future under threat of you and your countrymen. Without an equipped and trained military it will be necessary for international troops to remain in Kosovo for many years to come.
And apparently more than90 countries agree that reuniting Kosovo with Serbia is totally out of the question.

pss, could you read? My point is that international troops stood in Kosovo before 2008 protecting your Albanians, so it wasn't necessary for Kosovo* to declare independence to feel safe, while for S.Ossetia it was necessary to declare independence to feel safe, because war was going on that time (2008).
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 14:06
The war lasted 5 days and was over and peace agreements had been signed and Russian troops were in Georgia, when they requested recognition from Russia as independent countries. They were under no threat at the time.

So I ask you all: why not solve this problem now?
(Ron, 15 October 2012 02:35)
What happened too many people ignoring your constant No double standards posts so now you switch teams and advocate double standards?

Milloshevic used to say the exact same think. Hope Buk does not and like him.

to pss:
Independence of Kosovo* wasn't necessary in 2008 for international troops to stay in Kosovo and protect your Albanians.
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 11:57)
You said the Albanians were not under threat in 2008, I say they were, are and will be in the future under threat of you and your countrymen. Without an equipped and trained military it will be necessary for international troops to remain in Kosovo for many years to come.
And apparently more than90 countries agree that reuniting Kosovo with Serbia is totally out of the question.
(pss, 15 October 2012 13:47)

pss, could you read? My point is that international troops stood in Kosovo before 2008 protecting your Albanians, so it wasn't necessary for Kosovo* to declare independence to feel safe, while for S.Ossetia it was necessary to declare independence to feel safe, because war was going on that time (2008).

@pss:

I wonder how many of those micro-states in the pacific will change their opinion once the situation for them has changed...

but I´d bet it won´t stay 90 "countries" ... their number will very likely decrease, and not only because some of those who have allegedly "recognized", like Nigeria, Guinea-Bisao Mali or others who have learned through the medie that they have "recognized" this little freak-creation...

yeah, not because they have immediately denied to have recogized anything like a "kosovaaah"... but because some will change their mind quite naturally when they realize that the US are no longer their partner of choice.

oh and...even if there are some states "recognizing" ...it doesn´t actually matter at all, since the UN and Serbia as the state whom it concerns are against.

so, whatever you K-albanians may hope for, let your hopes go... the sooner you get it, the better for all of us.

As a montenegrin, which we have really close relationships with serbs, i really feel ashamed of Vuk Jeremic because he makes every serb embarrased in front of the world.
(Montenegrin, 15 October 2012 17:54)
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You're as much of a Montenegrin as I am.
Even if you do come from that state, you most likely have Albanian blood.

How Albanians love to say this, hiding behind the armies of other nations. Cowards.
(Steve B., 15 October 2012 15:16)
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That's for sure. It takes a few of them just to have the guts to attack one elderly Serb and vandalizing a grave is even easier. The dead can't attack.

What happened too many people ignoring your constant No double standards posts so now you switch teams and advocate double standards?
(just wondering, 15 October 2012 11:46)

Far from it!
Ossetia/Abkhazia issues can be solved simply by applying the correct law: the USSR constitution. Mind that Georgia used the possibility of leaving the USSR itself. But denying Abkhazia/Ossetia to use the possibility to stay within the USSR!

There is no such a law in case of Kosovo/Serbia/Yugoslavia.

No matter where this guy goes he never stops telling 'jokes'.

how was this evil man ever made president of the UN?! eleanor roosevelt would be turning in her grave...

"Serbia is internal issue of Kosova" lol

I really think Jeremic needs a good health check. I did not expect him to go down that fast in his judgments....Last time I heared "Kosovo an internal issue for Serbia....." when Milloshevic was alive and before the lasr war for Kosovo started.....

How is it internal? you have no authority in Kosovo what so ever, maybe in your sick brain. Do you see any serb police or serb army killing children or raping women in Kosovo- NO! because you have no more authority in Kosova.

Too bad for Serbia it's such a short gig.

Lol what an phoney. Do you want an war to understand that Kosova is not an part of Serbia?

In 1989 we all know how Serbia treated it's "internal issues" . Not to mention 1998-99 when you tryed to solve your "internal issues" for good.

Kosova is independent and Serbia cant do nothing about it !!

“Kosovo is Serbia’s internal issue, confirmed by parameters stated in the UN Security Council Resolution 1244,” Jeremić explained.

Point me where in the resolution it states that claim.


Sincerely,

“Kosovo is Serbia’s internal issue, confirmed by parameters stated in the UN Security Council Resolution 1244,” Jeremić explained.

I wish Vuk has the guts to say that ,this statement is on capacity as a UNGA President, if he made such statement!!!??? Time will tell,right?

“Kosovo is Serbia’s internal issue, confirmed by parameters stated in the UN Security Council Resolution 1244,” Jeremić explained.

That's correct... Kosovo is defined by the parameters of Kosovo's Declaration of Independence which is in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. Jeremic worked tirelessly to have that clarified :)

Wow this statement came from the UNGA president?, that should make people stand up and take notice----NOT!

I could have sworn that UNSC 1244 stated explicitly that Kosovo status was the DIRECT responsibility of the International Community as laid out in 11-e of the body of the document. There are probably unlimited copies of the document at the UN headquarters certainly Jeremic can come up with one and give facts and not Serbian fantasies.

"The former Serbian foreign minister said that his job was to look after sovereignty and territorial integrity of all UN members, including Serbia."

I'm sure that Georgia was welcoming Jeremic' statement. Did Putin TV mention that part? I bet not... hohoho..

Being uneducated and naive is one thing, but being educated and yet being naive is a different and very sad thing. Thank you. Peace for all.

"UN General Assembly President Vuk Jeremić has stated that the issue of Kosovo is Serbia's internal issue."

Seriously?

Resolutions on "Serbia's internal issue" preceding UNSCR 1244:
United Nations Security Council resolution 1239 of 14 May 1999; United Nations Security Council resolution 1203 of 24 October 1998; United Nations Security Council resolution 1199 of 23 September 1998; and United Nations Security Council resolution 1160 of 31 March 1998; amongst others. Available at www.un.org/Docs/sc.

4 resolutions on an internal issue of Serbia issued by his current employer. This guy is as clueless as ever.

I'm sure that Georgia was welcoming Jeremic' statement. Did Putin TV mention that part? I bet not... hohoho..
(Commentator, 14 October 2012 15:55)
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The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.

I see our Albo trolls are out in numbers on this one… Truth hurts I guess. lol

how was this evil man ever made president of the UN?! eleanor roosevelt would be turning in her grave...
(roberto, 14 October 2012 18:26)

She would probably crap in her grave if a bunch of Albanian zombies went on a rampage in her cemetery
throwing dead cattle all around, breaking headstones and crosses, ripping off gates and fencing...

I cannot imagine any government which would retain a Minister who has no concept of the expression 'conflict of interest'. This person should be fired immediately from both the UNGA and his position in Serbia. As for his opinion of course it is laughable and does him no credit. When an artificially created state like Serbia has tried and failed through thuggery to hold itself together by force, and in the process killing many of its citizens, destroying their education system, etc etc, then its only option is to try to persuade the world that it is reformed and civilised and wants back what it lost and everything will be sweetness and light. The fact of course is that it's all too late. Europe will not forget the appalling way in which Serbia's democratically elected government behaved and Serbia will never enter the EU or NATO while it persists with this nonsense, in fact it might as well give up now and this young man should get a life. Do the Serbs imagine that the 27 soon 28 EU countries will vote for a country which has embarked on a programme of mass murder less than 20 years ago? This is sad but while your representatives preach nonsense you are lost. You should reconcile with Kosovo, recognise it and get on with developing the economy of your part of the world for the sake of your young people.

@KOSO

you albanians seriously do not know how to read, i know your education system is lacking and you people clearly don't have any common sense due to the fact that you endorse and support corrpution and crime in kosovo through the criminals and terrorists that are in pristina

kosovo is serbia's internal matter because un security resolution 1244 reaffirmed FR Yugoslavia's (now Serbia's) territorial integrity and sovereignty over Kosovo, with kosovo obtaining substantial autonomy over its economy and political system .. it basically meant that kosovo was still a province of serbia

It even said so in un security council resolution 1244:

"Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex"

this is slightly bias coming from VUK!!

IF Kosovo never becomes part of the UN, Serbia will never become part of EU, and people of this website this is much more important then some fairy tale UN that actually never stopped anyone from murdering millions of people across the world and the especially Kosovo.

happy thinking VUK

Your Excellency Vuk Jeremic, President of the 67th Session of the United Nations, ... the wack-job, middle-school teacher from frisco, roberto, and several other small individuals here ... are jealous of you.

.

World, seems, has not diplomat statesman, but 1389 fantasy clown.

Mr Jeremic you'r hero good job for serbia senndin milosevic to hage and karadic and mladic how much more you can do next send nikolic to hage and the rest...jurovic.............

The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.
(Zoran, 14 October 2012 18:00)
We have a winner for BS statement of the year. The ONLY connection the Georgian provinces have with Kosovo is Russia wanted to thumb its nose at the west, and it had promised the world that if Kosovo were allowed to declare independence then it would open a pandoras box and there would be secessionist movements all over the world. When this failed Russia tried to kick start it, but like a dead animal it just lay there.

alex,

It is not as simplistic as you are trying to represent the UN resolution. If we follow your logic and Jeremic logic as "Kosovo is an internal issue....." let me challenge you and Jermic....Kosovo is still there "go and take it" if you have got guts.
(EA, 14 October 2012 23:40)

How Albanians love to say this, hiding behind the armies of other nations. Cowards.

The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.
(Zoran, 14 October 2012 18:00)

Zorane, I would pay for it if Jeremic would say exactly that. I'm breathless of anticipation to see what will come next from our Serbian comical Alis. This is big screen cinema, since the days when Charlie Chaplin was cooking and eating his own shoe..

All right since the Albanians seem to be making up their own versions of 1244, here's what Vuk is referring to:

"Reaffirm the commitment of UN member states to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex 2 of UNSCR 1244" (Albanians, curiously, are not signatories to the Helsinki Final Act, go figure, hey?)

Within the Helsinki Final Act, there are provisions guaranteeing territorial integrity, non-intervention in states' affairs and fulfilment of international law, amongst others.

Here are the other provisions of 1244 that are being violated:

"Allow for the return of an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel to maintain a presence at Serbian Patrimonial sites and key border crossings;" None have been allowed to return, leading to the 2004 pogrom.

"Require the UN to assure the safe and unimpeded return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants of the province;" Returnee houses are burnt and returnees murdered.

Give the resolution a read before making up your own.

alex,

It is not as simplistic as you are trying to represent the UN resolution. If we follow your logic and Jeremic logic as "Kosovo is an internal issue....." let me challenge you and Jermic....Kosovo is still there "go and take it" if you have got guts.

I see our Albo trolls are out in numbers on this one… Truth hurts I guess. lol
(usaSERB, 14 October 2012 20:17)
Truth about what!!!??? LOL and really you call this guy a politician my 80 year old grandmother has more brain, anytime he talk nonsense not only he will look like dumb but whole Serbian political machinery will look same not because i'm saying that because Serbia choose him as representative ... so enjoy the show anytime you see him i love it he make me laugh anytime ...

Milloshevic used to say the exact same think. Hope Buk does not and like him.

@pss:

I wonder how many of those micro-states in the pacific will change their opinion once the situation for them has changed...

but I´d bet it won´t stay 90 "countries" ... their number will very likely decrease, and not only because some of those who have allegedly "recognized", like Nigeria, Guinea-Bisao Mali or others who have learned through the medie that they have "recognized" this little freak-creation...

yeah, not because they have immediately denied to have recogized anything like a "kosovaaah"... but because some will change their mind quite naturally when they realize that the US are no longer their partner of choice.

oh and...even if there are some states "recognizing" ...it doesn´t actually matter at all, since the UN and Serbia as the state whom it concerns are against.

so, whatever you K-albanians may hope for, let your hopes go... the sooner you get it, the better for all of us.

Kosovo is Serbia's internal issue? This guy is really smoking something that no other politician has put their hands on so far.
Who decides for Kosovo's affairs? Is it Serbia or Kosovo's institutions.
As a montenegrin, which we have really close relationships with serbs, i really feel ashamed of Vuk Jeremic because he makes every serb embarrased in front of the world.

The problems Georgia is facing is a direct consequence of the precedent set by Kosovo's attempt at independence. Just another unique case.
(Zoran, 14 October 2012 18:00)

No, it's a consequence of Georgia being a neighbor of Russia. Funnily, that country pretends to have a 'principled stance' on territorial integrity of sovereign nations - but as we see, it's only hypocrisy.

Mr. Jeremic seems to define Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

The most hilarious story told so far by Vuk!

If Kosova is Serb internal problem ,than why Mr. smarty asked ICJ opinion,and not Serb court?!

On Kosovo, Abkhazia, Ossetia - PLEASE READ!

The USSR constitution stated that if a Republic (say Georgia) wants to leave the union that autonomous regions within that republic had the option to stay within the USSR.

So when Georgia wanted to leave the USSR (Georgia was allowed to do that!) it should have given Abkhazia and South Ossetia the option to stay in the USSR. Georgia did not.

This is a very important difference with Kosovo.

So why the world does not tell Georgia: hey, well, you know, you actually were wrong 20 years ago. Have a referendum now in Abkhazia and Ossetia.

Then both regions will vote to leave the Georgian state. Problems solved. Georgia can maybe even join EU or NATO. Georgia happy. Abkhazia happy. Ossetia happy.

So I ask you all: why not solve this problem now?

He stressed that the UN took care of territorial integrity of its members, “which Serbia is and Kosovo is not”.
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Very well said.

Comm Parisson, if you were a president of Russia what would you say to Ossetians and Abhazians who would ask you why it was possible for Kosovo* to make an attempt on independence, while it is impossible for us?

!!!At the moment of declaration of independence Kosovo* Albanians were not under threat, while Ossetians were under threat from Georgia.

Vuce is really working very hard against his own national interest! Once he opens his mouth, Serbia moves one step backward from EU!

Pity!

to pss:
Independence of Kosovo* wasn't necessary in 2008 for international troops to stay in Kosovo and protect your Albanians.
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 11:57)
You said the Albanians were not under threat in 2008, I say they were, are and will be in the future under threat of you and your countrymen. Without an equipped and trained military it will be necessary for international troops to remain in Kosovo for many years to come.
And apparently more than90 countries agree that reuniting Kosovo with Serbia is totally out of the question.
(pss, 15 October 2012 13:47)

pss, could you read? My point is that international troops stood in Kosovo before 2008 protecting your Albanians, so it wasn't necessary for Kosovo* to declare independence to feel safe, while for S.Ossetia it was necessary to declare independence to feel safe, because war was going on that time (2008).

As a montenegrin, which we have really close relationships with serbs, i really feel ashamed of Vuk Jeremic because he makes every serb embarrased in front of the world.
(Montenegrin, 15 October 2012 17:54)
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You're as much of a Montenegrin as I am.
Even if you do come from that state, you most likely have Albanian blood.

How Albanians love to say this, hiding behind the armies of other nations. Cowards.
(Steve B., 15 October 2012 15:16)
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That's for sure. It takes a few of them just to have the guts to attack one elderly Serb and vandalizing a grave is even easier. The dead can't attack.

And...
"Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, taking into account the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648);

In a final stage, overseeing the transfer of authority from Kosovo's provisional institutions to institutions established under a political settlement;"

So, it reaffirmed Yugoslavia's sovereignty in the beginning (while practically stripping it of all authority in Kosovo), with final status to be decided through a political process.

As I re-read UNSC 1244, I again was surprised that Serbians would even THINK of quoting it. If I were Serbian, I couldn't read the resolution without being overcome by shame. Whatever this document is, it is not something that was written to protect Serbian interests...

(Ron, 15 October 2012 02:35)

Your claims are not supported by the UNSC:

"By unanimously adopting resolution 1225 (1999), the Council demanded that the Georgian and the Abkhaz parties expand their commitment to the United Nations-led peace process, underlining the necessity for an early and comprehensive political settlement. That should include the political status of Abkhazia, and full respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia within its internationally recognized borders."

UN Res. 1225 clearly states that the issue of Georgia's breakaway provinces must be solved within Georgia's borders, something what you will not find in UN Res. 1244 where the final result of Kosovo does not include those conditioned boundaries. Of course, we can still argue if a final confirmation of the UNSC is necessary which might finalize the UN-mediated talks by Marti Athisaari, but that is not only something different but also not demanded in the ICJ ruling which did not supported Serbia's stance. Serbia had the chance to call ICJ for all(!) disputed points and failed epicly.

In fact, Ron, you just proved that your constant Blabla is just hot air. Russia violated Georgia's territorial integrity and I can't wait to see the stance of the so-called UNGA president in that matter. My guess, however, is that Jeremic will wiggle like a worm trying to avoid any statement in that reference and making clear what a bad joke he and his statements are, once again.

Commentator,

Why don't the US, Germany, Great Britain, etc. recognize S.Ossetia and Abhazia?

Allow for the return of an agreed number of Yugoslav and Serbian personnel to maintain a presence at Serbian Patrimonial sites and key border crossings;" None have been allowed to return, leading to the 2004 pogrom.

"Require the UN to assure the safe and unimpeded return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants of the province;" Returnee houses are burnt and returnees murdered.

Give the resolution a read before making up your own.
(Anonymoose, 14 October 2012 21:04)
Maybe you should follow your own advice and use a little common sense to go with it.
To date: Serbia has Made no request, nada, zip, zero for any police or military personnel to return under the provisions of 1244. So there is no such violation, plus even if any had returned their duties were so limited that it would have had no effect during 2004.
Ironically the dispaced Serbs happened after 1244 as they fled when Serb forces left Kosovo, so technically 1244 does not really cover the future people who were to leave.

!!!At the moment of declaration of independence Kosovo* Albanians were not under threat,
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 09:34
I don't think requiring international troops to be present to keep Serbs from reattacking Albanians really qualifies as "Albanians were not under threat" The popular phrase here seems to be wait until the internationals leave. That pretty much proves the threat is still there and probably would be forever.

!!!At the moment of declaration of independence Kosovo* Albanians were not under threat,
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 09:34
I don't think requiring international troops to be present to keep Serbs from reattacking Albanians really qualifies as "Albanians were not under threat" The popular phrase here seems to be wait until the internationals leave. That pretty much proves the threat is still there and probably would be forever.
(pss, 15 October 2012 10:36)

Well, let's assume that Albanians needed international troops to protect them. But international troops did it before 2008 WITHOUT declaration of Kosovo* independence.

to pss:
Independence of Kosovo* wasn't necessary in 2008 for international troops to stay in Kosovo and protect your Albanians.

Was, prior to 1999 liberation! You & your fellow crony politicians back in serbia should focus on trying to protect of what is left of Serbia! Cause in the very near future i pridict you will see other parts of your beloved Serbia breaking away! The time draws near! You better have your armaments factory working 24/7, your going to need them pal!

So I ask you all: why not solve this problem now?
(Ron, 15 October 2012 02:35)
What happened too many people ignoring your constant No double standards posts so now you switch teams and advocate double standards?

to pss:
Independence of Kosovo* wasn't necessary in 2008 for international troops to stay in Kosovo and protect your Albanians.
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 11:57)
You said the Albanians were not under threat in 2008, I say they were, are and will be in the future under threat of you and your countrymen. Without an equipped and trained military it will be necessary for international troops to remain in Kosovo for many years to come.
And apparently more than90 countries agree that reuniting Kosovo with Serbia is totally out of the question.

What happened too many people ignoring your constant No double standards posts so now you switch teams and advocate double standards?
(just wondering, 15 October 2012 11:46)

Far from it!
Ossetia/Abkhazia issues can be solved simply by applying the correct law: the USSR constitution. Mind that Georgia used the possibility of leaving the USSR itself. But denying Abkhazia/Ossetia to use the possibility to stay within the USSR!

There is no such a law in case of Kosovo/Serbia/Yugoslavia.

pss, could you read? My point is that international troops stood in Kosovo before 2008 protecting your Albanians, so it wasn't necessary for Kosovo* to declare independence to feel safe, while for S.Ossetia it was necessary to declare independence to feel safe, because war was going on that time (2008).
(aaayyy, 15 October 2012 14:06
The war lasted 5 days and was over and peace agreements had been signed and Russian troops were in Georgia, when they requested recognition from Russia as independent countries. They were under no threat at the time.