Germany wants “improvement of relations, not recognition”
German Ambassador to Serbia Heinz Wilhelm says that Germany is not asking Serbia to recognize Kosovo’s independence but to “normalize relations with Priština”.
oh sj, there is no doubt in my mind that you seriously believe your assertions. well sweetheart, since you're oh so knowledgeable and far sighted, care to tell me when Kosova's gradual handover to Serbia will begin and when it will be completed? here is me with a prediction, within 10 years. serbia will have recognized Kosova (not necessarily within the current borders) but it will have done it. i love this, the only country in the Balkans that can survive is Serbia! the same state that is having its ministers having to pledge that they're not going to go bankrupt! brilliant stuff, really brilliant! i suggest you wake up from whatever dream it is you're having
Laugh all you like, but how far has Kosovo gone since 1999? Not on micrometer, that’s how far. Yet the worst is yet to come.
(sj, 12 October 2012 14:43)
Well Kosovo is twice as rich now than it was 2008.
And you said it was your 'job' to know, somehow I doubt that.
And what you fail to see is that debt doesn't have to be a problem. Debt is ok if you mananage it properly a bit like a morgage. And that is how the US is still the worlds biggest economic power despite it's huge debt. And that is why the UK's economy continues to grow despite their debt.
(Haitain, 12 October 2012 11:46)
No that is not correct. There is only one Balkan country that can survive on its own and that is called Serbia. I know because it’s my job to know and understand countries. It’s my work to assess risk and value of nations. I know exactly the real debt of nations so I do qualify to say that Serbia is capable of surviving on its own unlike the rest.
Yes you are correct Serbia has taken out loans, but then apart from Australia which owes about 10% of its GDP, can you name another that has not taken out huge loans. I know for a fact that the US is heading down the 17 trillion by the end of this year. I know that the UK has this year had to ask the IMF for loans on two occasions to avoid economic collapse. I have known well in advance that Germany was heading for a recession.
You see after 2008 Asia no longer trusted the western rating agencies which gave the toxic loans the AAA+ rating so they started their own. Do you think for a moment that China wants to invest in Serbia because it will go belly up tomorrow???\
Laugh all you like, but how far has Kosovo gone since 1999? Not on micrometer, that’s how far. Yet the worst is yet to come.
irst of sj, i'm not a muslim, i'm an atheist. second of, i love your 'kosova' can't survive on its woin but serbia can? dear me dude, put aside your fascination with dushan and lazar for a bit. the heavenly people is just a metaphor
(Nikolle, 12 October 2012 11:34)
You can fantasize all you like, but as I said many times before it’s my business to know and it’s common knowledge even in EU circles that Kosovo is unsustainable as it stands and has to be incorporated into the Serbian economy. The EU is not running around like a headless chicken demanding “normalization” of neighborly relations for nothing. Brussels is so desperate that it’s sending at least two to three diplomats per week to Belgrade over this issue. This recession is much deeper and longer and Brussels’ budgetary forecasts are looking very grim indeed to the point countries in the EU considered wealthy will have problems let alone Kosovo.
If I am wrong then why doesn’t Brussels open its doors to their brother Albanians and allow them to work in the EU but are looking for ways to return them in large numbers?
If you are not Christian you are a Muslim and boy don’t the Americans love Muslims. Both Dushan and Lazar were Christians.
Only imbeciles believe that Kosovo can survive on its own. This drivel is laughable as it shows that Nikolle got this out of a text book. But dont say you didn’t hear it first here on what the EU wants in the long term.
I’d be interested to hear what you do for a living to then understand you point of view.
(sj, 12 October 2012 06:31)
So what if Kosovo can't survive on it's own, neither can any Balkan Country. All rely on the West and the East to support them economically. Look at Serbia, almost bankrupt; it is a country which relies on Western and Eastern bank loans to stay afloat. And you think Serbia can pay the way for Kosovo too? Don't make me laugh. Serbia can't look after itself, nevermind Kosovo too.
first of sj, i'm not a muslim, i'm an atheist. second of, i love your 'kosova' can't survive on its woin but serbia can? dear me dude, put aside your fascination with dushan and lazar for a bit. the heavenly people is just a metaphor
So you're a big boy now? What are you? 16, 17, 18? Coming here with your words of wisdom telling us how things will unfold. You're a joke! Shouldn't you be in class?
(Haitian, 11 October 2012 14:19)
This is Nikolle’s response on how Kosovo survives. “there are 3 facets in ANY economy, the product market, the capital market and the service industry, (at this point i shall exclude the labor markets). we have all three in kosova, we have people employed in banks, we have people in service industries and we have factories in kosova too .”
Only imbeciles believe that Kosovo can survive on its own. This drivel is laughable as it shows that Nikolle got this out of a text book. But dont say you didn’t hear it first here on what the EU wants in the long term.
I’d be interested to hear what you do for a living to then understand you point of view.
oh sj, you really have confused yourself. tell me, who do those serb citizens in croatia pay taxes to? blegrade or Zagreb? you are taking ravings of madmen as proof, that is the same as the ravings of Ahmedinajad, he is raving many things many times. yes its ture, serbia is running croatia :-)
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 14:30)ia? I don’t follow you logic.
Once again it just shows how brainwashed you people have become
It was the Mayor of Split who complained and he is right in that Serbs are taking control over Croatia financially. Wait until South Stream goes through in tweo years time and then it be as obvious as the nose on your face.
Ahmedinajad is a muslim like you. But he is not mad either. Tha’s what the west used to call Gaddafi and look at Libya today – a mess
Never mind these things are beyond you so lets leasve it alone.
I’m old enough to have seen most BS that governments can dish out, but how old are you? To think that the EU is only trying to normalize relations with Serbia and Kosovo because it’s the right thing to do. Here is a tip mate. Governments always have an agenda. Do you think for a moment the EU will open their gates to 1.2 million Albanians to roam the EU looking for work?????
(sj, 11 October 2012 13:46)
So you're a big boy now? What are you? 16, 17, 18? Coming here with your words of wisdom telling us how things will unfold. You're a joke! Shouldn't you be in class?
oh sj, you really have confused yourself. tell me, who do those serb citizens in croatia pay taxes to? blegrade or Zagreb? you are taking ravings of madmen as proof, that is the same as the ravings of Ahmedinajad, he is raving many things many times. yes its ture, serbia is running croatia :-)
oh dear sj, its obvious that we are on different plains completely. no matter what i write, you're going to disagree with. first of, you have been writing this 70% unemployment for a while, i haven't seen it in ANY statistic. i am not going to call you a liar, maybe you really believe it, but its not a figure that is published on economics journal. so does that men that serbia's official 26% unemployment is a lie too? or are those who run the gov. in Belgrade honorable and not prone to lying? that's the first thing.
second, at what point did i write that Kosova will not go through problems? we don't have to wait till 2015, I can see it now, if 45% unemployment doesn't present a problem than i don't know what does! but really, what exactly is your point? do you think this economic difficulty is going to mean that serbia will take over? the same serbia that is having its ministers having to pledge that the country is not going to go bankrupt?! that serbia? how will a poor serbia like that take over a territory that is hostile to it? you really are not thinking straight. this is the crux of your argument, kosova is poor, serbia should run it because its richer!! but if this is the criteria to be used, forget serbia, lets give it to germany, they're richer! honestly, you're confused.
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 12:17)
You might have noticed that most members of the EU are in financial troubles. Until about May this year Germany was the only one still standing on its own feet, but since then levels of production are falling and have done so up to today – the news is Germany is in recession.
Kosovo has an official rate of 45% unemployed (closer to 70% if you’re lucky mate) so as money becomes scarce because Brussels has less of that commodity and considering Brussels is the one propping up Kosovo give your gray cells a nudge and come to some conclusion. It’s your Albanians that were screaming “thieves you enrich yourselves while we starve”. It wasn’t SJ and it wasn’t RTV Serbia, but local Albanians yelling those words in Prisitna. If Greece and Spain are going through pain, what do you think will happen to Kosovo? What sail through with no problems?
So what percentage do your factories employ? 5%, 10%. How many banks do you have? Service industries; what are they? You mean money that Brussels gives you and you pay people working for the government?
I’m old enough to have seen most BS that governments can dish out, but how old are you? To think that the EU is only trying to normalize relations with Serbia and Kosovo because it’s the right thing to do. Here is a tip mate. Governments always have an agenda. Do you think for a moment the EU will open their gates to 1.2 million Albanians to roam the EU looking for work?????
Similar things were said about Krajina too, but the Banja Luka Republic is no more
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 12:24)
You poor hopeless soul. Do you think that Nikolic mentioned Vukovar recently because he was bored. That’s the best part. The Croats have to finalise all outstanding issues with Serbs refugees before they set one foot in the EU and they are broke. Why do you think the Mayor of Split ranted about Serbs controlling Croatia? Idle chit chat?
Give it some thought. The best is yet to come and people like you think I’m joking. Oh RS does exist and Banja Luka is its capital.
Now tell me what have your Albanians achieved that did not rely on Turks or Americans coming to your aid?
we have been over this sj. you seem to think the EU doesn't have enough to look after kosova but tiny-insignificant-nearly-bankrupt-serbia does? you honestly don't know what you're talking about. as for your industry, you only think of industry as factories, nothing else. there are 3 facets in ANY economy, the product market, the capital market and the service industry, (at this point i shall exclude the labor markets). we have all three in kosova, we have people employed in banks, we have people in service industries and we have factories in kosova too (the ferronikel complex is running as is Obilic and Fox Marble is soon to start too). no one is is painting a rosy picture of Kosova because obviously it doesn't exist (45% unemployment is proof of it), however to suggest that K. Albanians are going to go through starvation, is not only to write something so utterly stupid, is to show gross ignorance. when do you think this mass starvation will kick in? 2015? 2016? 2017? what you can point to is a protest against corruption as proof that people are going through famine? seriously how old are you? but you know, scratch all that, let us even say EU funding will cease, EULEX will pack their bags, now, where is Serbia going to get the money from to absorb a territory with a hostile population? check the section on B92, economic crisis in Serbia and see how well the empire of heaven is doing
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 09:15)
There is one thing I do know and that is Belgrade will NEVER allow Kosovo to breath and not all the diplomats from Brussels will make a difference.
The fact is simple. The EU is going through another recession, but this one is worse than the first and even Germany is now in trouble so the money Brussels has available to throw around gets smaller by the month. What do you think is going to happen to the 45% unemployed in Kosovo? Go down or increase? Your Albanians demonstrated on Monday in Pristina calling your leaders theives who enriched themselves while they starve – not my words but your Albanians.
Why haven’t your allies, the west, opened some industry in Kosova?????????? When you answer that question you might just realize your fate. Recognition will never come from Belgrade so I would not hold my breath and as time goes by the west gets weaker and weaker by the month. Why would Serbs settle for just the north when we can take all.
Kosovo is not a neighbour its part of Serbia and as I said your lot will starve before this is over – just watch how Thaci sends in the Rosu against his own people, teargas and all.
(sj, 10 October 2012 23:02)
Correction, Kosovo isn't part of Serbia. Northern Kosovo is part of Serbia. Big Difference!
Kosovo just claims the North, but we know the north is really apart of Serbia.
well sj, you seem to believe a famine will grip Kosova anytime soon-
Balkan, whereas Serbia could get away with lets face it, annexing a large part of Bosnia, it will NOT manage to do that in Kosova. in Bosnia the population ratio was and is 55/45, over here its 9/1. and considering how you people cry discrimination at every turn, i suggest when recognition does come (as it will) it will be 10/0 very soon after. the best of for serbia is the north, the other parts are one
Can't trust the Germans. They have been the biggest slaughterers of the Serb people over the last one-hundred years. They were the ones who enticed and supported the Croats, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Bosnian Muslims, etc. to kill Serbs during all the major wars.
They are ultra sneaky.
To explain it to you would take too much room that B92 allows and in the end you would not believe it anyway, but as you said its all in the name of good neighbourly relations.
However if you see that magic pot of gold somewhere let us know.
Kosovo is not a neighbour its part of Serbia and as I said your lot will starve before this is over – just watch how Thaci sends in the Rosu against his own people, teargas and all.
“We have raised the question of the so-called parallel structures in northern Kosovo. It is not good for Serbia to have parallel structures there. The Ahtisaari plan gives great autonomy to northern Kosovo but it is not good for Serbia to have parallel structures there in schools, municipalities and police. This is one of our conditions, that those structures are abolished, step by step,” he explained.
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Why is it for Germans to decide about institutions in Northern Kosovo? It should be for people who live there - Kosovo Serbs that is - to decide.
if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Good neighborly relations can indeed exist between a state and a statelet. Why Dacic practically feels right at home every time he hops across the Drina to hobnob in Banja Luka while calling for the international agreement that set up this splendid little arrangement to be honored :)
But I digress. "Good neighborly relations" runs both ways. If we're to play nice with Europe's youngest basket case, then I expect some pressure will be put on the local yokels in Pristina to reciprocate. And we can pretty much see this already in the loud and stubborn refusals that come from Dacic's Albanian counterparts: no further autonomy for the north (which means its coming), no additional concession for the SPC (which means its coming), and no recognition of "parallel institutions" (which means many think that's the only way to solve the problems of the north, instead of wasting money on Potemkin villages in Kosovska Mitrovica).
I'm sure when all is said and done, Serbia will have to at least acknowledge the territorial integrity of some entity its not formally required to recognize while deciding how to divide time between hobnobbing in Banja Luka, Kosovska Mitrovica, and Gracanica. Good fences make good neighbors :)
but only about normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština, “which means establishment of good neighborly relations."
Yes, nobody from Germany and nobody from the EU requested it. But there's a politician from a small, almost negligible anti-EU party in Serbia who constantly repeats that recognition is an EU condition.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 October 2012 14:36)
Are you really this bone headed? What does good neighborly relations mean to you? Please do everyone a favour and stay away when you refuse to understand what is being being said by these germans (who you bganon, bob and danilo are apparently against LOL)
"Commenting on statements of certain German politicians that it should be requested from Serbia to recognize Kosovo and sign the agreement on good neighborly relations, he said that “there have been misinterpretations and misunderstandings” because nobody, in Germany or in the EU, spoke about the recognition of the independence but only about normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština, “which means establishment of good neighborly relations."
Yes, nobody from Germany and nobody from the EU requested it. But there's a politician from a small, almost negligible anti-EU party in Serbia who constantly repeats that recognition is an EU condition.
Kosovo is indeed part of Serbia. It is a Serbian province rules by UN. So Serbia-UMMIK relations should be good!
And to all in Balkan: please get over all these issues. We in the West are growing a bit tired of it. So no new states, no new borders. Learn to live together!
(Ron, 10 October 2012 13:27)
Maybe Serbia-UNMIK relations would be good if UNMIK existed... other than on paper and one small office in Mitrovica that does a report once a blue moon.
Please explain how the UN rules Kosovo. I gladly await your response.
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Kosovo is indeed part of Serbia. It is a Serbian province rules by UN. So Serbia-UMMIK relations should be good!
And to all in Balkan: please get over all these issues. We in the West are growing a bit tired of it. So no new states, no new borders. Learn to live together!
if you truly believe that Kosova is run by the UN, then I suggest you read some more. p.s. Kosova has separate passports, separate birth certificates and other such documents, separate from Serbia. they are not issued by the UN anymore.
BS alert! Nothing has been 'misinterpreted'. The germans are now saying one thing in public and another thing in private. Before they said the same thing in public. Very poor liars.
well sj, perhaps your ministers (though i say yours loosely, you're not really a serb, you're an Aussie) should save public money and stop going on with this charade about joining the Union to begin with. all that money spent on wasted trips apparently, is better of going somewhere else, somewhere needed. if serbia is 'fooling' the union, then i'd like to know who the joke is on. EU leaders or Serbs citizens, who strangely enough are funding those public trips to the EU. by the way, sj, i stand by what i wrote, neighborly relations means only thing, that you're neighbors and difference entities
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Give it a rest. Serbia will never join the EU. There is nothing left in the EU; its only the Albanians that live in the 1990s when cash was thrown around and people were living high, but today it’s time to pay for the excesses of that time. No one cares what the Germans think. When will you realize that its all just hot air. But we will make sure that the Albanians go on being punished for trying to steal something that does not belong to them – as this recession bites deeper there will be starvation in Kosova.
"This means to establish good neighborly relations between Serbia and Kosovo"
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Give it a rest. Serbia will never join the EU. There is nothing left in the EU; its only the Albanians that live in the 1990s when cash was thrown around and people were living high, but today it’s time to pay for the excesses of that time. No one cares what the Germans think. When will you realize that its all just hot air. But we will make sure that the Albanians go on being punished for trying to steal something that does not belong to them – as this recession bites deeper there will be starvation in Kosova.
"This means to establish good neighborly relations between Serbia and Kosovo"
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
BS alert! Nothing has been 'misinterpreted'. The germans are now saying one thing in public and another thing in private. Before they said the same thing in public. Very poor liars.
if you truly believe that Kosova is run by the UN, then I suggest you read some more. p.s. Kosova has separate passports, separate birth certificates and other such documents, separate from Serbia. they are not issued by the UN anymore.
Kosovo is indeed part of Serbia. It is a Serbian province rules by UN. So Serbia-UMMIK relations should be good!
And to all in Balkan: please get over all these issues. We in the West are growing a bit tired of it. So no new states, no new borders. Learn to live together!
(Ron, 10 October 2012 13:27)
Maybe Serbia-UNMIK relations would be good if UNMIK existed... other than on paper and one small office in Mitrovica that does a report once a blue moon.
Please explain how the UN rules Kosovo. I gladly await your response.
well sj, perhaps your ministers (though i say yours loosely, you're not really a serb, you're an Aussie) should save public money and stop going on with this charade about joining the Union to begin with. all that money spent on wasted trips apparently, is better of going somewhere else, somewhere needed. if serbia is 'fooling' the union, then i'd like to know who the joke is on. EU leaders or Serbs citizens, who strangely enough are funding those public trips to the EU. by the way, sj, i stand by what i wrote, neighborly relations means only thing, that you're neighbors and difference entities
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Kosovo is indeed part of Serbia. It is a Serbian province rules by UN. So Serbia-UMMIK relations should be good!
And to all in Balkan: please get over all these issues. We in the West are growing a bit tired of it. So no new states, no new borders. Learn to live together!
but only about normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština, “which means establishment of good neighborly relations."
Yes, nobody from Germany and nobody from the EU requested it. But there's a politician from a small, almost negligible anti-EU party in Serbia who constantly repeats that recognition is an EU condition.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 October 2012 14:36)
Are you really this bone headed? What does good neighborly relations mean to you? Please do everyone a favour and stay away when you refuse to understand what is being being said by these germans (who you bganon, bob and danilo are apparently against LOL)
if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Good neighborly relations can indeed exist between a state and a statelet. Why Dacic practically feels right at home every time he hops across the Drina to hobnob in Banja Luka while calling for the international agreement that set up this splendid little arrangement to be honored :)
But I digress. "Good neighborly relations" runs both ways. If we're to play nice with Europe's youngest basket case, then I expect some pressure will be put on the local yokels in Pristina to reciprocate. And we can pretty much see this already in the loud and stubborn refusals that come from Dacic's Albanian counterparts: no further autonomy for the north (which means its coming), no additional concession for the SPC (which means its coming), and no recognition of "parallel institutions" (which means many think that's the only way to solve the problems of the north, instead of wasting money on Potemkin villages in Kosovska Mitrovica).
I'm sure when all is said and done, Serbia will have to at least acknowledge the territorial integrity of some entity its not formally required to recognize while deciding how to divide time between hobnobbing in Banja Luka, Kosovska Mitrovica, and Gracanica. Good fences make good neighbors :)
"Commenting on statements of certain German politicians that it should be requested from Serbia to recognize Kosovo and sign the agreement on good neighborly relations, he said that “there have been misinterpretations and misunderstandings” because nobody, in Germany or in the EU, spoke about the recognition of the independence but only about normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština, “which means establishment of good neighborly relations."
Yes, nobody from Germany and nobody from the EU requested it. But there's a politician from a small, almost negligible anti-EU party in Serbia who constantly repeats that recognition is an EU condition.
“We have raised the question of the so-called parallel structures in northern Kosovo. It is not good for Serbia to have parallel structures there. The Ahtisaari plan gives great autonomy to northern Kosovo but it is not good for Serbia to have parallel structures there in schools, municipalities and police. This is one of our conditions, that those structures are abolished, step by step,” he explained.
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Why is it for Germans to decide about institutions in Northern Kosovo? It should be for people who live there - Kosovo Serbs that is - to decide.
we have been over this sj. you seem to think the EU doesn't have enough to look after kosova but tiny-insignificant-nearly-bankrupt-serbia does? you honestly don't know what you're talking about. as for your industry, you only think of industry as factories, nothing else. there are 3 facets in ANY economy, the product market, the capital market and the service industry, (at this point i shall exclude the labor markets). we have all three in kosova, we have people employed in banks, we have people in service industries and we have factories in kosova too (the ferronikel complex is running as is Obilic and Fox Marble is soon to start too). no one is is painting a rosy picture of Kosova because obviously it doesn't exist (45% unemployment is proof of it), however to suggest that K. Albanians are going to go through starvation, is not only to write something so utterly stupid, is to show gross ignorance. when do you think this mass starvation will kick in? 2015? 2016? 2017? what you can point to is a protest against corruption as proof that people are going through famine? seriously how old are you? but you know, scratch all that, let us even say EU funding will cease, EULEX will pack their bags, now, where is Serbia going to get the money from to absorb a territory with a hostile population? check the section on B92, economic crisis in Serbia and see how well the empire of heaven is doing
To explain it to you would take too much room that B92 allows and in the end you would not believe it anyway, but as you said its all in the name of good neighbourly relations.
However if you see that magic pot of gold somewhere let us know.
Kosovo is not a neighbour its part of Serbia and as I said your lot will starve before this is over – just watch how Thaci sends in the Rosu against his own people, teargas and all.
well sj, you seem to believe a famine will grip Kosova anytime soon-
Balkan, whereas Serbia could get away with lets face it, annexing a large part of Bosnia, it will NOT manage to do that in Kosova. in Bosnia the population ratio was and is 55/45, over here its 9/1. and considering how you people cry discrimination at every turn, i suggest when recognition does come (as it will) it will be 10/0 very soon after. the best of for serbia is the north, the other parts are one
Kosovo is not a neighbour its part of Serbia and as I said your lot will starve before this is over – just watch how Thaci sends in the Rosu against his own people, teargas and all.
(sj, 10 October 2012 23:02)
Correction, Kosovo isn't part of Serbia. Northern Kosovo is part of Serbia. Big Difference!
Kosovo just claims the North, but we know the north is really apart of Serbia.
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 09:15)
There is one thing I do know and that is Belgrade will NEVER allow Kosovo to breath and not all the diplomats from Brussels will make a difference.
The fact is simple. The EU is going through another recession, but this one is worse than the first and even Germany is now in trouble so the money Brussels has available to throw around gets smaller by the month. What do you think is going to happen to the 45% unemployed in Kosovo? Go down or increase? Your Albanians demonstrated on Monday in Pristina calling your leaders theives who enriched themselves while they starve – not my words but your Albanians.
Why haven’t your allies, the west, opened some industry in Kosova?????????? When you answer that question you might just realize your fate. Recognition will never come from Belgrade so I would not hold my breath and as time goes by the west gets weaker and weaker by the month. Why would Serbs settle for just the north when we can take all.
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 12:17)
You might have noticed that most members of the EU are in financial troubles. Until about May this year Germany was the only one still standing on its own feet, but since then levels of production are falling and have done so up to today – the news is Germany is in recession.
Kosovo has an official rate of 45% unemployed (closer to 70% if you’re lucky mate) so as money becomes scarce because Brussels has less of that commodity and considering Brussels is the one propping up Kosovo give your gray cells a nudge and come to some conclusion. It’s your Albanians that were screaming “thieves you enrich yourselves while we starve”. It wasn’t SJ and it wasn’t RTV Serbia, but local Albanians yelling those words in Prisitna. If Greece and Spain are going through pain, what do you think will happen to Kosovo? What sail through with no problems?
So what percentage do your factories employ? 5%, 10%. How many banks do you have? Service industries; what are they? You mean money that Brussels gives you and you pay people working for the government?
I’m old enough to have seen most BS that governments can dish out, but how old are you? To think that the EU is only trying to normalize relations with Serbia and Kosovo because it’s the right thing to do. Here is a tip mate. Governments always have an agenda. Do you think for a moment the EU will open their gates to 1.2 million Albanians to roam the EU looking for work?????
Similar things were said about Krajina too, but the Banja Luka Republic is no more
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 12:24)
You poor hopeless soul. Do you think that Nikolic mentioned Vukovar recently because he was bored. That’s the best part. The Croats have to finalise all outstanding issues with Serbs refugees before they set one foot in the EU and they are broke. Why do you think the Mayor of Split ranted about Serbs controlling Croatia? Idle chit chat?
Give it some thought. The best is yet to come and people like you think I’m joking. Oh RS does exist and Banja Luka is its capital.
Now tell me what have your Albanians achieved that did not rely on Turks or Americans coming to your aid?
I’m old enough to have seen most BS that governments can dish out, but how old are you? To think that the EU is only trying to normalize relations with Serbia and Kosovo because it’s the right thing to do. Here is a tip mate. Governments always have an agenda. Do you think for a moment the EU will open their gates to 1.2 million Albanians to roam the EU looking for work?????
(sj, 11 October 2012 13:46)
So you're a big boy now? What are you? 16, 17, 18? Coming here with your words of wisdom telling us how things will unfold. You're a joke! Shouldn't you be in class?
oh sj, you really have confused yourself. tell me, who do those serb citizens in croatia pay taxes to? blegrade or Zagreb? you are taking ravings of madmen as proof, that is the same as the ravings of Ahmedinajad, he is raving many things many times. yes its ture, serbia is running croatia :-)
first of sj, i'm not a muslim, i'm an atheist. second of, i love your 'kosova' can't survive on its woin but serbia can? dear me dude, put aside your fascination with dushan and lazar for a bit. the heavenly people is just a metaphor
Only imbeciles believe that Kosovo can survive on its own. This drivel is laughable as it shows that Nikolle got this out of a text book. But dont say you didn’t hear it first here on what the EU wants in the long term.
I’d be interested to hear what you do for a living to then understand you point of view.
(sj, 12 October 2012 06:31)
So what if Kosovo can't survive on it's own, neither can any Balkan Country. All rely on the West and the East to support them economically. Look at Serbia, almost bankrupt; it is a country which relies on Western and Eastern bank loans to stay afloat. And you think Serbia can pay the way for Kosovo too? Don't make me laugh. Serbia can't look after itself, nevermind Kosovo too.
oh sj, there is no doubt in my mind that you seriously believe your assertions. well sweetheart, since you're oh so knowledgeable and far sighted, care to tell me when Kosova's gradual handover to Serbia will begin and when it will be completed? here is me with a prediction, within 10 years. serbia will have recognized Kosova (not necessarily within the current borders) but it will have done it. i love this, the only country in the Balkans that can survive is Serbia! the same state that is having its ministers having to pledge that they're not going to go bankrupt! brilliant stuff, really brilliant! i suggest you wake up from whatever dream it is you're having
Can't trust the Germans. They have been the biggest slaughterers of the Serb people over the last one-hundred years. They were the ones who enticed and supported the Croats, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Bosnian Muslims, etc. to kill Serbs during all the major wars.
They are ultra sneaky.
oh dear sj, its obvious that we are on different plains completely. no matter what i write, you're going to disagree with. first of, you have been writing this 70% unemployment for a while, i haven't seen it in ANY statistic. i am not going to call you a liar, maybe you really believe it, but its not a figure that is published on economics journal. so does that men that serbia's official 26% unemployment is a lie too? or are those who run the gov. in Belgrade honorable and not prone to lying? that's the first thing.
second, at what point did i write that Kosova will not go through problems? we don't have to wait till 2015, I can see it now, if 45% unemployment doesn't present a problem than i don't know what does! but really, what exactly is your point? do you think this economic difficulty is going to mean that serbia will take over? the same serbia that is having its ministers having to pledge that the country is not going to go bankrupt?! that serbia? how will a poor serbia like that take over a territory that is hostile to it? you really are not thinking straight. this is the crux of your argument, kosova is poor, serbia should run it because its richer!! but if this is the criteria to be used, forget serbia, lets give it to germany, they're richer! honestly, you're confused.
oh sj, you really have confused yourself. tell me, who do those serb citizens in croatia pay taxes to? blegrade or Zagreb? you are taking ravings of madmen as proof, that is the same as the ravings of Ahmedinajad, he is raving many things many times. yes its ture, serbia is running croatia :-)
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 14:30)ia? I don’t follow you logic.
Once again it just shows how brainwashed you people have become
It was the Mayor of Split who complained and he is right in that Serbs are taking control over Croatia financially. Wait until South Stream goes through in tweo years time and then it be as obvious as the nose on your face.
Ahmedinajad is a muslim like you. But he is not mad either. Tha’s what the west used to call Gaddafi and look at Libya today – a mess
Never mind these things are beyond you so lets leasve it alone.
So you're a big boy now? What are you? 16, 17, 18? Coming here with your words of wisdom telling us how things will unfold. You're a joke! Shouldn't you be in class?
(Haitian, 11 October 2012 14:19)
This is Nikolle’s response on how Kosovo survives. “there are 3 facets in ANY economy, the product market, the capital market and the service industry, (at this point i shall exclude the labor markets). we have all three in kosova, we have people employed in banks, we have people in service industries and we have factories in kosova too .”
Only imbeciles believe that Kosovo can survive on its own. This drivel is laughable as it shows that Nikolle got this out of a text book. But dont say you didn’t hear it first here on what the EU wants in the long term.
I’d be interested to hear what you do for a living to then understand you point of view.
(Haitain, 12 October 2012 11:46)
No that is not correct. There is only one Balkan country that can survive on its own and that is called Serbia. I know because it’s my job to know and understand countries. It’s my work to assess risk and value of nations. I know exactly the real debt of nations so I do qualify to say that Serbia is capable of surviving on its own unlike the rest.
Yes you are correct Serbia has taken out loans, but then apart from Australia which owes about 10% of its GDP, can you name another that has not taken out huge loans. I know for a fact that the US is heading down the 17 trillion by the end of this year. I know that the UK has this year had to ask the IMF for loans on two occasions to avoid economic collapse. I have known well in advance that Germany was heading for a recession.
You see after 2008 Asia no longer trusted the western rating agencies which gave the toxic loans the AAA+ rating so they started their own. Do you think for a moment that China wants to invest in Serbia because it will go belly up tomorrow???\
Laugh all you like, but how far has Kosovo gone since 1999? Not on micrometer, that’s how far. Yet the worst is yet to come.
irst of sj, i'm not a muslim, i'm an atheist. second of, i love your 'kosova' can't survive on its woin but serbia can? dear me dude, put aside your fascination with dushan and lazar for a bit. the heavenly people is just a metaphor
(Nikolle, 12 October 2012 11:34)
You can fantasize all you like, but as I said many times before it’s my business to know and it’s common knowledge even in EU circles that Kosovo is unsustainable as it stands and has to be incorporated into the Serbian economy. The EU is not running around like a headless chicken demanding “normalization” of neighborly relations for nothing. Brussels is so desperate that it’s sending at least two to three diplomats per week to Belgrade over this issue. This recession is much deeper and longer and Brussels’ budgetary forecasts are looking very grim indeed to the point countries in the EU considered wealthy will have problems let alone Kosovo.
If I am wrong then why doesn’t Brussels open its doors to their brother Albanians and allow them to work in the EU but are looking for ways to return them in large numbers?
If you are not Christian you are a Muslim and boy don’t the Americans love Muslims. Both Dushan and Lazar were Christians.
Laugh all you like, but how far has Kosovo gone since 1999? Not on micrometer, that’s how far. Yet the worst is yet to come.
(sj, 12 October 2012 14:43)
Well Kosovo is twice as rich now than it was 2008.
And you said it was your 'job' to know, somehow I doubt that.
And what you fail to see is that debt doesn't have to be a problem. Debt is ok if you mananage it properly a bit like a morgage. And that is how the US is still the worlds biggest economic power despite it's huge debt. And that is why the UK's economy continues to grow despite their debt.
"This means to establish good neighborly relations between Serbia and Kosovo"
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Kosovo is indeed part of Serbia. It is a Serbian province rules by UN. So Serbia-UMMIK relations should be good!
And to all in Balkan: please get over all these issues. We in the West are growing a bit tired of it. So no new states, no new borders. Learn to live together!
what is the key word there? neighborly. if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Give it a rest. Serbia will never join the EU. There is nothing left in the EU; its only the Albanians that live in the 1990s when cash was thrown around and people were living high, but today it’s time to pay for the excesses of that time. No one cares what the Germans think. When will you realize that its all just hot air. But we will make sure that the Albanians go on being punished for trying to steal something that does not belong to them – as this recession bites deeper there will be starvation in Kosova.
if you truly believe that Kosova is run by the UN, then I suggest you read some more. p.s. Kosova has separate passports, separate birth certificates and other such documents, separate from Serbia. they are not issued by the UN anymore.
BS alert! Nothing has been 'misinterpreted'. The germans are now saying one thing in public and another thing in private. Before they said the same thing in public. Very poor liars.
well sj, perhaps your ministers (though i say yours loosely, you're not really a serb, you're an Aussie) should save public money and stop going on with this charade about joining the Union to begin with. all that money spent on wasted trips apparently, is better of going somewhere else, somewhere needed. if serbia is 'fooling' the union, then i'd like to know who the joke is on. EU leaders or Serbs citizens, who strangely enough are funding those public trips to the EU. by the way, sj, i stand by what i wrote, neighborly relations means only thing, that you're neighbors and difference entities
Kosovo is indeed part of Serbia. It is a Serbian province rules by UN. So Serbia-UMMIK relations should be good!
And to all in Balkan: please get over all these issues. We in the West are growing a bit tired of it. So no new states, no new borders. Learn to live together!
(Ron, 10 October 2012 13:27)
Maybe Serbia-UNMIK relations would be good if UNMIK existed... other than on paper and one small office in Mitrovica that does a report once a blue moon.
Please explain how the UN rules Kosovo. I gladly await your response.
"Commenting on statements of certain German politicians that it should be requested from Serbia to recognize Kosovo and sign the agreement on good neighborly relations, he said that “there have been misinterpretations and misunderstandings” because nobody, in Germany or in the EU, spoke about the recognition of the independence but only about normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština, “which means establishment of good neighborly relations."
Yes, nobody from Germany and nobody from the EU requested it. But there's a politician from a small, almost negligible anti-EU party in Serbia who constantly repeats that recognition is an EU condition.
To explain it to you would take too much room that B92 allows and in the end you would not believe it anyway, but as you said its all in the name of good neighbourly relations.
However if you see that magic pot of gold somewhere let us know.
Kosovo is not a neighbour its part of Serbia and as I said your lot will starve before this is over – just watch how Thaci sends in the Rosu against his own people, teargas and all.
if serbia believes Kosova is a part of it, how can it have good neighborly relations with itself? its obvious that a recognition will have to be done if EU membership is what Serbia is after
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:48)
Good neighborly relations can indeed exist between a state and a statelet. Why Dacic practically feels right at home every time he hops across the Drina to hobnob in Banja Luka while calling for the international agreement that set up this splendid little arrangement to be honored :)
But I digress. "Good neighborly relations" runs both ways. If we're to play nice with Europe's youngest basket case, then I expect some pressure will be put on the local yokels in Pristina to reciprocate. And we can pretty much see this already in the loud and stubborn refusals that come from Dacic's Albanian counterparts: no further autonomy for the north (which means its coming), no additional concession for the SPC (which means its coming), and no recognition of "parallel institutions" (which means many think that's the only way to solve the problems of the north, instead of wasting money on Potemkin villages in Kosovska Mitrovica).
I'm sure when all is said and done, Serbia will have to at least acknowledge the territorial integrity of some entity its not formally required to recognize while deciding how to divide time between hobnobbing in Banja Luka, Kosovska Mitrovica, and Gracanica. Good fences make good neighbors :)
but only about normalization of relations between Belgrade and Priština, “which means establishment of good neighborly relations."
Yes, nobody from Germany and nobody from the EU requested it. But there's a politician from a small, almost negligible anti-EU party in Serbia who constantly repeats that recognition is an EU condition.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 October 2012 14:36)
Are you really this bone headed? What does good neighborly relations mean to you? Please do everyone a favour and stay away when you refuse to understand what is being being said by these germans (who you bganon, bob and danilo are apparently against LOL)
(Haitain, 12 October 2012 11:46)
No that is not correct. There is only one Balkan country that can survive on its own and that is called Serbia. I know because it’s my job to know and understand countries. It’s my work to assess risk and value of nations. I know exactly the real debt of nations so I do qualify to say that Serbia is capable of surviving on its own unlike the rest.
Yes you are correct Serbia has taken out loans, but then apart from Australia which owes about 10% of its GDP, can you name another that has not taken out huge loans. I know for a fact that the US is heading down the 17 trillion by the end of this year. I know that the UK has this year had to ask the IMF for loans on two occasions to avoid economic collapse. I have known well in advance that Germany was heading for a recession.
You see after 2008 Asia no longer trusted the western rating agencies which gave the toxic loans the AAA+ rating so they started their own. Do you think for a moment that China wants to invest in Serbia because it will go belly up tomorrow???\
Laugh all you like, but how far has Kosovo gone since 1999? Not on micrometer, that’s how far. Yet the worst is yet to come.
“We have raised the question of the so-called parallel structures in northern Kosovo. It is not good for Serbia to have parallel structures there. The Ahtisaari plan gives great autonomy to northern Kosovo but it is not good for Serbia to have parallel structures there in schools, municipalities and police. This is one of our conditions, that those structures are abolished, step by step,” he explained.
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Why is it for Germans to decide about institutions in Northern Kosovo? It should be for people who live there - Kosovo Serbs that is - to decide.
Can't trust the Germans. They have been the biggest slaughterers of the Serb people over the last one-hundred years. They were the ones who enticed and supported the Croats, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Bosnian Muslims, etc. to kill Serbs during all the major wars.
They are ultra sneaky.
well sj, you seem to believe a famine will grip Kosova anytime soon-
Balkan, whereas Serbia could get away with lets face it, annexing a large part of Bosnia, it will NOT manage to do that in Kosova. in Bosnia the population ratio was and is 55/45, over here its 9/1. and considering how you people cry discrimination at every turn, i suggest when recognition does come (as it will) it will be 10/0 very soon after. the best of for serbia is the north, the other parts are one
Kosovo is not a neighbour its part of Serbia and as I said your lot will starve before this is over – just watch how Thaci sends in the Rosu against his own people, teargas and all.
(sj, 10 October 2012 23:02)
Correction, Kosovo isn't part of Serbia. Northern Kosovo is part of Serbia. Big Difference!
Kosovo just claims the North, but we know the north is really apart of Serbia.
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 09:15)
There is one thing I do know and that is Belgrade will NEVER allow Kosovo to breath and not all the diplomats from Brussels will make a difference.
The fact is simple. The EU is going through another recession, but this one is worse than the first and even Germany is now in trouble so the money Brussels has available to throw around gets smaller by the month. What do you think is going to happen to the 45% unemployed in Kosovo? Go down or increase? Your Albanians demonstrated on Monday in Pristina calling your leaders theives who enriched themselves while they starve – not my words but your Albanians.
Why haven’t your allies, the west, opened some industry in Kosova?????????? When you answer that question you might just realize your fate. Recognition will never come from Belgrade so I would not hold my breath and as time goes by the west gets weaker and weaker by the month. Why would Serbs settle for just the north when we can take all.
we have been over this sj. you seem to think the EU doesn't have enough to look after kosova but tiny-insignificant-nearly-bankrupt-serbia does? you honestly don't know what you're talking about. as for your industry, you only think of industry as factories, nothing else. there are 3 facets in ANY economy, the product market, the capital market and the service industry, (at this point i shall exclude the labor markets). we have all three in kosova, we have people employed in banks, we have people in service industries and we have factories in kosova too (the ferronikel complex is running as is Obilic and Fox Marble is soon to start too). no one is is painting a rosy picture of Kosova because obviously it doesn't exist (45% unemployment is proof of it), however to suggest that K. Albanians are going to go through starvation, is not only to write something so utterly stupid, is to show gross ignorance. when do you think this mass starvation will kick in? 2015? 2016? 2017? what you can point to is a protest against corruption as proof that people are going through famine? seriously how old are you? but you know, scratch all that, let us even say EU funding will cease, EULEX will pack their bags, now, where is Serbia going to get the money from to absorb a territory with a hostile population? check the section on B92, economic crisis in Serbia and see how well the empire of heaven is doing
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 12:17)
You might have noticed that most members of the EU are in financial troubles. Until about May this year Germany was the only one still standing on its own feet, but since then levels of production are falling and have done so up to today – the news is Germany is in recession.
Kosovo has an official rate of 45% unemployed (closer to 70% if you’re lucky mate) so as money becomes scarce because Brussels has less of that commodity and considering Brussels is the one propping up Kosovo give your gray cells a nudge and come to some conclusion. It’s your Albanians that were screaming “thieves you enrich yourselves while we starve”. It wasn’t SJ and it wasn’t RTV Serbia, but local Albanians yelling those words in Prisitna. If Greece and Spain are going through pain, what do you think will happen to Kosovo? What sail through with no problems?
So what percentage do your factories employ? 5%, 10%. How many banks do you have? Service industries; what are they? You mean money that Brussels gives you and you pay people working for the government?
I’m old enough to have seen most BS that governments can dish out, but how old are you? To think that the EU is only trying to normalize relations with Serbia and Kosovo because it’s the right thing to do. Here is a tip mate. Governments always have an agenda. Do you think for a moment the EU will open their gates to 1.2 million Albanians to roam the EU looking for work?????
oh dear sj, its obvious that we are on different plains completely. no matter what i write, you're going to disagree with. first of, you have been writing this 70% unemployment for a while, i haven't seen it in ANY statistic. i am not going to call you a liar, maybe you really believe it, but its not a figure that is published on economics journal. so does that men that serbia's official 26% unemployment is a lie too? or are those who run the gov. in Belgrade honorable and not prone to lying? that's the first thing.
second, at what point did i write that Kosova will not go through problems? we don't have to wait till 2015, I can see it now, if 45% unemployment doesn't present a problem than i don't know what does! but really, what exactly is your point? do you think this economic difficulty is going to mean that serbia will take over? the same serbia that is having its ministers having to pledge that the country is not going to go bankrupt?! that serbia? how will a poor serbia like that take over a territory that is hostile to it? you really are not thinking straight. this is the crux of your argument, kosova is poor, serbia should run it because its richer!! but if this is the criteria to be used, forget serbia, lets give it to germany, they're richer! honestly, you're confused.
I’m old enough to have seen most BS that governments can dish out, but how old are you? To think that the EU is only trying to normalize relations with Serbia and Kosovo because it’s the right thing to do. Here is a tip mate. Governments always have an agenda. Do you think for a moment the EU will open their gates to 1.2 million Albanians to roam the EU looking for work?????
(sj, 11 October 2012 13:46)
So you're a big boy now? What are you? 16, 17, 18? Coming here with your words of wisdom telling us how things will unfold. You're a joke! Shouldn't you be in class?
oh sj, you really have confused yourself. tell me, who do those serb citizens in croatia pay taxes to? blegrade or Zagreb? you are taking ravings of madmen as proof, that is the same as the ravings of Ahmedinajad, he is raving many things many times. yes its ture, serbia is running croatia :-)
oh sj, you really have confused yourself. tell me, who do those serb citizens in croatia pay taxes to? blegrade or Zagreb? you are taking ravings of madmen as proof, that is the same as the ravings of Ahmedinajad, he is raving many things many times. yes its ture, serbia is running croatia :-)
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 14:30)ia? I don’t follow you logic.
Once again it just shows how brainwashed you people have become
It was the Mayor of Split who complained and he is right in that Serbs are taking control over Croatia financially. Wait until South Stream goes through in tweo years time and then it be as obvious as the nose on your face.
Ahmedinajad is a muslim like you. But he is not mad either. Tha’s what the west used to call Gaddafi and look at Libya today – a mess
Never mind these things are beyond you so lets leasve it alone.
So you're a big boy now? What are you? 16, 17, 18? Coming here with your words of wisdom telling us how things will unfold. You're a joke! Shouldn't you be in class?
(Haitian, 11 October 2012 14:19)
This is Nikolle’s response on how Kosovo survives. “there are 3 facets in ANY economy, the product market, the capital market and the service industry, (at this point i shall exclude the labor markets). we have all three in kosova, we have people employed in banks, we have people in service industries and we have factories in kosova too .”
Only imbeciles believe that Kosovo can survive on its own. This drivel is laughable as it shows that Nikolle got this out of a text book. But dont say you didn’t hear it first here on what the EU wants in the long term.
I’d be interested to hear what you do for a living to then understand you point of view.
irst of sj, i'm not a muslim, i'm an atheist. second of, i love your 'kosova' can't survive on its woin but serbia can? dear me dude, put aside your fascination with dushan and lazar for a bit. the heavenly people is just a metaphor
(Nikolle, 12 October 2012 11:34)
You can fantasize all you like, but as I said many times before it’s my business to know and it’s common knowledge even in EU circles that Kosovo is unsustainable as it stands and has to be incorporated into the Serbian economy. The EU is not running around like a headless chicken demanding “normalization” of neighborly relations for nothing. Brussels is so desperate that it’s sending at least two to three diplomats per week to Belgrade over this issue. This recession is much deeper and longer and Brussels’ budgetary forecasts are looking very grim indeed to the point countries in the EU considered wealthy will have problems let alone Kosovo.
If I am wrong then why doesn’t Brussels open its doors to their brother Albanians and allow them to work in the EU but are looking for ways to return them in large numbers?
If you are not Christian you are a Muslim and boy don’t the Americans love Muslims. Both Dushan and Lazar were Christians.
Similar things were said about Krajina too, but the Banja Luka Republic is no more
(Nikolle, 11 October 2012 12:24)
You poor hopeless soul. Do you think that Nikolic mentioned Vukovar recently because he was bored. That’s the best part. The Croats have to finalise all outstanding issues with Serbs refugees before they set one foot in the EU and they are broke. Why do you think the Mayor of Split ranted about Serbs controlling Croatia? Idle chit chat?
Give it some thought. The best is yet to come and people like you think I’m joking. Oh RS does exist and Banja Luka is its capital.
Now tell me what have your Albanians achieved that did not rely on Turks or Americans coming to your aid?
first of sj, i'm not a muslim, i'm an atheist. second of, i love your 'kosova' can't survive on its woin but serbia can? dear me dude, put aside your fascination with dushan and lazar for a bit. the heavenly people is just a metaphor
Only imbeciles believe that Kosovo can survive on its own. This drivel is laughable as it shows that Nikolle got this out of a text book. But dont say you didn’t hear it first here on what the EU wants in the long term.
I’d be interested to hear what you do for a living to then understand you point of view.
(sj, 12 October 2012 06:31)
So what if Kosovo can't survive on it's own, neither can any Balkan Country. All rely on the West and the East to support them economically. Look at Serbia, almost bankrupt; it is a country which relies on Western and Eastern bank loans to stay afloat. And you think Serbia can pay the way for Kosovo too? Don't make me laugh. Serbia can't look after itself, nevermind Kosovo too.
oh sj, there is no doubt in my mind that you seriously believe your assertions. well sweetheart, since you're oh so knowledgeable and far sighted, care to tell me when Kosova's gradual handover to Serbia will begin and when it will be completed? here is me with a prediction, within 10 years. serbia will have recognized Kosova (not necessarily within the current borders) but it will have done it. i love this, the only country in the Balkans that can survive is Serbia! the same state that is having its ministers having to pledge that they're not going to go bankrupt! brilliant stuff, really brilliant! i suggest you wake up from whatever dream it is you're having
Laugh all you like, but how far has Kosovo gone since 1999? Not on micrometer, that’s how far. Yet the worst is yet to come.
(sj, 12 October 2012 14:43)
Well Kosovo is twice as rich now than it was 2008.
And you said it was your 'job' to know, somehow I doubt that.
And what you fail to see is that debt doesn't have to be a problem. Debt is ok if you mananage it properly a bit like a morgage. And that is how the US is still the worlds biggest economic power despite it's huge debt. And that is why the UK's economy continues to grow despite their debt.
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