"Conditioning EU accession with Kosovo is unfair"

Setting up rape camps, killing innocent people, bombing and taking their land is fair. Burning down embassies is fair. Banning gay parades and mistreating minorities is fair.

Asking you to step out of the dark ages and join the modern world...OH SO UNFAIR!

Cry some more!

Yes, aspirations for Serbia to join the EU, and the conflict it has with Albanian separatist in its Southern province, are two totally exclusive issues. And for the EU/US, to try and blackmail Serbia into doing something against its will, just to achieve EU consideration, should be pointed out in a court of law. Well said, professor Kehler.

cry me a river

You albanians shouldn't even say anything about taking someones land. Burning down over 100 churches, trying to expell all serbs in the 2004 pogrom, killing off serbs every week, desecrating serbian cemetaries. Providing entire Europe with drugs and prostitution. Yes, you are so much better.

The best solution is to move Albanians back to Albania. Serbia and Macedonia would have no problems joining the EU then.

It is interesting that Albanians keep repeating that Serbia lost their rights because of the cruelties commited during the Milosevic regime but that they keep neglecting the fact that the Albanian minority activly supported Hitlers holocaust and during WW2 deported and killed almost 90% of the jews living in Kosovo.....if we would then follow the logic of the Albanians well then they lost the rights of Kosovo during WW2........

Why Cyprus....? Two wrongs don't make thing right.....After a bloody war Kosovo can not allow itself to be worst off. Exchange of territories....? Maybe but not the best way forward. Kosovo should be allowed formally to join Albania.

I know one thing :Serbia is the country in which live,study,work .. peoples of all nations, religion, color and sexual orientation ... Please correct me if I'm wrong? The so-called Republic of Kosovo, for example cannot be proud of respecting human rights, the return of people to their homes, freedom of movement, etc. .. correct me if I'm wrong ...!? So a question about recognize Kosovo from Serbian side is not the thing that anybody should ask !!

One country have to give the part of her own land to get membership in EU …is that something that you should discus about ?? This is not time of wild west that you can stick a flag in a piece of land and say “this is mine “ it doesn’t matter how many people live on that land that is still a property of some country.people and history ,in this case Serbia!!

Two extremes? He is forgeting that an independent Kosova is not an extreme position for us, it is a compromise we already made, we were requesting natural reunification with Albania dont you forget this.

"The Innsbruck University professor points out that the partition could be a fair solution but that it required Kosovo Albanians to accept the fact that Serbs in the north would have the right to decide to be a part of Serbia."

What is this traitor speaking about ? Doesn't he know that Kosovo (all of it) is Serbia and thus North Kosovo is already part of Serbia?!

Albanians deported Jews????
Is this why Albanian are praised by Jews for risking their life's to defend Jews, why even Canadian Prime Minister mentioned this in an important international meeting that the world leader could learn from Albanian honor.

After all Serbs have done, you dare to try and equal that with a 1 day revolt (which I don't support). Your state organized genocide against pretty much anybody else in former Yugoslavia?

Sorry but you have chosen wrong propaganda by mentioning that Jews.
I am proud to be a member of a nation where not a single Jew died or was deported or caught during WW2.

Yes Kosovo should be condition number 1 for Serbia to even start talking to EU, among many other things.

By the way, this is for your own good!

"The Innsbruck University professor points out that the partition could be a fair solution but that it required Kosovo Albanians to accept the fact that Serbs in the north would have the right to decide to be a part of Serbia."

And it requires Serb nationalist to realize that at least a part of Kosovo is not Serbia. Best would be to split territory of Kosovo between Albania and Serbia: This black hole of corruption and crime, this mafia state called Kosovo cannot survive on its own (and it shouldn't for the sake of whole Europe)

@RingerThat about the Jews is not true. Only one Jewish family from Albania (which included Kosovo in WW2) was depoted during occupation. Albania is one of the few countries to have a larger Jewish population at the end of WW2 than at the beguinning. Many Jews from the region took shelter in Albania and were protected and hidden from the Nazis by Albanians. This is well documented. Now we could talk about the Serbian State Guard and the Serbian Volunteer Corps which worked for the Nazis and sent Jews to death camps.

during WW2 deported and killed almost 90% of the jews living in Kosovo.....if we would then follow the logic of the Albanians well then they lost the rights of Kosovo during WW2........
(Ringer

I challenge you to show some proof!
Don't waste your time. There is none. And, you mentioned the word 'logic'. Google it and get familiar with its meaning.

what rubbish Ringer. have you ever been to Kosova? let me tell you something about it, there are businesses owned by people of the Hebrew faith in Kosova today. the Ferronikel complex is one of them. three of our most popular hang out spots (or cafes), are also owned by a jewish person, he actually lives in pristhina, never has he been attacked, or for that matter abused verbally or in ANY other way for his faith. so much for our anti-semitism

I think you should take the Serb bit out of your name. It doesn't fit there.
Now tell us who was the SS Skanderberg division?
Muslims were loyal to Hitler. That is known so why don't you accept that?
Maybe because it doesn't fit your insanity.
(Peggy, 8 October 2012 11:23)

I am a Serb, from Serbia therefore it does fit. I'm just not a deluded nationalist ex-pat Serb. I'm a realist.

Yes some Muslims collaborated with the Nazis in WW2, I do not dispute this. However some Muslims were loyal to the Communist Partisans and the Chetniks too. Some Muslims faught and died against the Nazis.
Everywhere in the Balkans people collaborated with the Nazis, be it Serbs, Croats, Muslims or Albanians; all groups collaborated with the Nazis. Period! Fact! But then again Serbs, Croats, Muslims and Albanians all faught against and resisted the Nazis too. Period! Fact!
Nothing insane about that at all.

And I was just pointing out that what Ringer said about Jews and Albanians in WW2 was false because it was incorrect fact. It was a big fat stupid nationalist lie.

I think you shouldn't make outrageous sweeping statments where you LABEL an entire massive group of people for example, "Muslims were loyal to Hitler". That is just as ridiculous as saying "Christians were loyal to Hitler".

what nonsense. yes, look how nasty those evil europeans are being by taking a stance. the score is simple, kosova or eu, sure as hell not both of them. as oh his unfair, life isn't fair

"Providing entire Europe with drugs and prostitution."

yes because only Albanians have been arrested for selling drugs, no serb has ever been. one thing you have provided Europe with is the biggest number of war criminals since Nazi Germany, you sure as hell have kept the Hague prison cells full. oh and the other thing you have provided Europe with is the biggest massacre on its soil in 50 odd years. two things, you are way ahead of us in

It is interesting that Albanians keep repeating that Serbia lost their rights because of the cruelties commited during the Milosevic regime but that they keep neglecting the fact that the Albanian minority activly supported Hitlers holocaust and during WW2 deported and killed almost 90% of the jews living in Kosovo.....if we would then follow the logic of the Albanians well then they lost the rights of Kosovo during WW2........
(Ringer, 7 October 2012 22:28
Grasping at straws are we?????

“If the EU thinks that all problems should be solved before a country joins the EU, then one needs to ask why Cyprus was accepted as a full-fledged member when the issue of its sovereignty still has not been solved,” Kehler said.

There is not much to ask about that issue. There is a lot of regret regarding Cyprus. The hope that the problem will be fixed when Cyprus joins the EU was a complete failure. Accepting Cyprus to join the EU made the division of the island an EU problem. And what makes it worse, there is no solution at the horizon.

At least, and this it what that text tells us, EU learnt from that terrible mistake and won't repeat it. That might look like "double standards" and to certain extent it is true, but that is the result that you can't kick out EU countries from the union, unfortunately.

“If the EU thinks that all problems should be solved before a country joins the EU, then one needs to ask why Cyprus was accepted as a full-fledged member when the issue of its sovereignty still has not been solved,” Kehler said
One would think that a college professor would be able to realize that this is the very reason that they are insisting that Serbia resolve its issue prior to entrance. One reason you are suppose to learn from your mistakes is so you do not repeat them. Also there is a difference in Cyprus in that no one in the EU have taken a position in opposition to the govt of Cyprus.

Grasping at straws are we?????
(pss, 8 October 2012 06:41)
No at the truth.

Grasping at straws are we?????
(pss, 8 October 2012 06:41)
No at the truth.

(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 8 October 2012 00:18)
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I think you should take the Serb bit out of your name. It doesn't fit there.
Now tell us who was the SS Skanderberg division?
Muslims were loyal to Hitler. That is known so why don't you accept that?
Maybe because it doesn't fit your insanity.

Setting up rape camps, killing innocent people, bombing and taking their land is fair. Burning down embassies is fair. Banning gay parades and mistreating minorities is fair.

Asking you to step out of the dark ages and join the modern world...OH SO UNFAIR!

Cry some more!

Why Cyprus....? Two wrongs don't make thing right.....After a bloody war Kosovo can not allow itself to be worst off. Exchange of territories....? Maybe but not the best way forward. Kosovo should be allowed formally to join Albania.

It is interesting that Albanians keep repeating that Serbia lost their rights because of the cruelties commited during the Milosevic regime but that they keep neglecting the fact that the Albanian minority activly supported Hitlers holocaust and during WW2 deported and killed almost 90% of the jews living in Kosovo.....if we would then follow the logic of the Albanians well then they lost the rights of Kosovo during WW2........

Yes, aspirations for Serbia to join the EU, and the conflict it has with Albanian separatist in its Southern province, are two totally exclusive issues. And for the EU/US, to try and blackmail Serbia into doing something against its will, just to achieve EU consideration, should be pointed out in a court of law. Well said, professor Kehler.

what nonsense. yes, look how nasty those evil europeans are being by taking a stance. the score is simple, kosova or eu, sure as hell not both of them. as oh his unfair, life isn't fair

Two extremes? He is forgeting that an independent Kosova is not an extreme position for us, it is a compromise we already made, we were requesting natural reunification with Albania dont you forget this.

The best solution is to move Albanians back to Albania. Serbia and Macedonia would have no problems joining the EU then.

"The Innsbruck University professor points out that the partition could be a fair solution but that it required Kosovo Albanians to accept the fact that Serbs in the north would have the right to decide to be a part of Serbia."

And it requires Serb nationalist to realize that at least a part of Kosovo is not Serbia. Best would be to split territory of Kosovo between Albania and Serbia: This black hole of corruption and crime, this mafia state called Kosovo cannot survive on its own (and it shouldn't for the sake of whole Europe)

cry me a river

You albanians shouldn't even say anything about taking someones land. Burning down over 100 churches, trying to expell all serbs in the 2004 pogrom, killing off serbs every week, desecrating serbian cemetaries. Providing entire Europe with drugs and prostitution. Yes, you are so much better.

I know one thing :Serbia is the country in which live,study,work .. peoples of all nations, religion, color and sexual orientation ... Please correct me if I'm wrong? The so-called Republic of Kosovo, for example cannot be proud of respecting human rights, the return of people to their homes, freedom of movement, etc. .. correct me if I'm wrong ...!? So a question about recognize Kosovo from Serbian side is not the thing that anybody should ask !!

“If the EU thinks that all problems should be solved before a country joins the EU, then one needs to ask why Cyprus was accepted as a full-fledged member when the issue of its sovereignty still has not been solved,” Kehler said.

There is not much to ask about that issue. There is a lot of regret regarding Cyprus. The hope that the problem will be fixed when Cyprus joins the EU was a complete failure. Accepting Cyprus to join the EU made the division of the island an EU problem. And what makes it worse, there is no solution at the horizon.

At least, and this it what that text tells us, EU learnt from that terrible mistake and won't repeat it. That might look like "double standards" and to certain extent it is true, but that is the result that you can't kick out EU countries from the union, unfortunately.

One country have to give the part of her own land to get membership in EU …is that something that you should discus about ?? This is not time of wild west that you can stick a flag in a piece of land and say “this is mine “ it doesn’t matter how many people live on that land that is still a property of some country.people and history ,in this case Serbia!!

"The Innsbruck University professor points out that the partition could be a fair solution but that it required Kosovo Albanians to accept the fact that Serbs in the north would have the right to decide to be a part of Serbia."

What is this traitor speaking about ? Doesn't he know that Kosovo (all of it) is Serbia and thus North Kosovo is already part of Serbia?!

(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 8 October 2012 00:18)
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I think you should take the Serb bit out of your name. It doesn't fit there.
Now tell us who was the SS Skanderberg division?
Muslims were loyal to Hitler. That is known so why don't you accept that?
Maybe because it doesn't fit your insanity.

@RingerThat about the Jews is not true. Only one Jewish family from Albania (which included Kosovo in WW2) was depoted during occupation. Albania is one of the few countries to have a larger Jewish population at the end of WW2 than at the beguinning. Many Jews from the region took shelter in Albania and were protected and hidden from the Nazis by Albanians. This is well documented. Now we could talk about the Serbian State Guard and the Serbian Volunteer Corps which worked for the Nazis and sent Jews to death camps.

Grasping at straws are we?????
(pss, 8 October 2012 06:41)
No at the truth.

Grasping at straws are we?????
(pss, 8 October 2012 06:41)
No at the truth.

"Providing entire Europe with drugs and prostitution."

yes because only Albanians have been arrested for selling drugs, no serb has ever been. one thing you have provided Europe with is the biggest number of war criminals since Nazi Germany, you sure as hell have kept the Hague prison cells full. oh and the other thing you have provided Europe with is the biggest massacre on its soil in 50 odd years. two things, you are way ahead of us in

during WW2 deported and killed almost 90% of the jews living in Kosovo.....if we would then follow the logic of the Albanians well then they lost the rights of Kosovo during WW2........
(Ringer

I challenge you to show some proof!
Don't waste your time. There is none. And, you mentioned the word 'logic'. Google it and get familiar with its meaning.

“If the EU thinks that all problems should be solved before a country joins the EU, then one needs to ask why Cyprus was accepted as a full-fledged member when the issue of its sovereignty still has not been solved,” Kehler said
One would think that a college professor would be able to realize that this is the very reason that they are insisting that Serbia resolve its issue prior to entrance. One reason you are suppose to learn from your mistakes is so you do not repeat them. Also there is a difference in Cyprus in that no one in the EU have taken a position in opposition to the govt of Cyprus.

It is interesting that Albanians keep repeating that Serbia lost their rights because of the cruelties commited during the Milosevic regime but that they keep neglecting the fact that the Albanian minority activly supported Hitlers holocaust and during WW2 deported and killed almost 90% of the jews living in Kosovo.....if we would then follow the logic of the Albanians well then they lost the rights of Kosovo during WW2........
(Ringer, 7 October 2012 22:28
Grasping at straws are we?????

what rubbish Ringer. have you ever been to Kosova? let me tell you something about it, there are businesses owned by people of the Hebrew faith in Kosova today. the Ferronikel complex is one of them. three of our most popular hang out spots (or cafes), are also owned by a jewish person, he actually lives in pristhina, never has he been attacked, or for that matter abused verbally or in ANY other way for his faith. so much for our anti-semitism

I think you should take the Serb bit out of your name. It doesn't fit there.
Now tell us who was the SS Skanderberg division?
Muslims were loyal to Hitler. That is known so why don't you accept that?
Maybe because it doesn't fit your insanity.
(Peggy, 8 October 2012 11:23)

I am a Serb, from Serbia therefore it does fit. I'm just not a deluded nationalist ex-pat Serb. I'm a realist.

Yes some Muslims collaborated with the Nazis in WW2, I do not dispute this. However some Muslims were loyal to the Communist Partisans and the Chetniks too. Some Muslims faught and died against the Nazis.
Everywhere in the Balkans people collaborated with the Nazis, be it Serbs, Croats, Muslims or Albanians; all groups collaborated with the Nazis. Period! Fact! But then again Serbs, Croats, Muslims and Albanians all faught against and resisted the Nazis too. Period! Fact!
Nothing insane about that at all.

And I was just pointing out that what Ringer said about Jews and Albanians in WW2 was false because it was incorrect fact. It was a big fat stupid nationalist lie.

I think you shouldn't make outrageous sweeping statments where you LABEL an entire massive group of people for example, "Muslims were loyal to Hitler". That is just as ridiculous as saying "Christians were loyal to Hitler".

Albanians deported Jews????
Is this why Albanian are praised by Jews for risking their life's to defend Jews, why even Canadian Prime Minister mentioned this in an important international meeting that the world leader could learn from Albanian honor.

After all Serbs have done, you dare to try and equal that with a 1 day revolt (which I don't support). Your state organized genocide against pretty much anybody else in former Yugoslavia?

Sorry but you have chosen wrong propaganda by mentioning that Jews.
I am proud to be a member of a nation where not a single Jew died or was deported or caught during WW2.

Yes Kosovo should be condition number 1 for Serbia to even start talking to EU, among many other things.

By the way, this is for your own good!