“Serbia can get date for EU talks in June”

"If you bend over, we might promise you something".

Brussels has no credibility left.

When the the HELL are you pro EU people going to WAKE UP?The EU is going down,don't go with it.For all you german boot lickers and nato lovers that means "KAPUT!"

the consensus within the EU is that Serbia's borders exclude Kosovo.
the consensus this government claims to have is to stall the process and buy time hoping for something magical to happen in their favour or use Kosovo to swing public opinion (votes) and divert attention to things more important

Sure you can have talks....Here's how they likely go.
EU: You stand in repeated violation of your prior agreements for freedom of expression, assembly, protest, speech, and petition
Serbia: But we changed our constitution to allow for rights for minorities
EU: But you can write all of amendments to your constitution you want, but if you guys refuse to implement them, they actually make you look worse. You give the impression that you are unwilling or unable to protect your Gay population from violent thugs running amok all over the streets of your capital.
Serbia: But this was an internal security decision.
EU: We've given you how much money to train your security forces? Seriously this looks like a question of will on your part.
Serbia: But our church is against Gay people having any rights
EU: That is irrelevant. Besides, you don't seem to have taken any steps to protect them. Last year you cancelled their rights because of these same concerns. And what have you done in the interim? Nothing. A woman wearing a reainbow flag was stabbed. You caught the perpretrator and then let him go. No one has gone to jail for the violence in the streets two years ago. Or for the threats against Gay people last year. Or this year.
Serbia: But we're trying.
EU: We don't see any thing approaching 'trying'.
Serbia: By the way, can we get some more money for our security forces so that they can pretend to do their jobs?
EU: These talks are concluded.

"She is convinced that neither the EU nor its member states will ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo’s unilaterally declared independence."

There have been in the last 7 days only enough statements which say quite the opposite. The EU won't demand aynthing, but member states will.

Pop quiz: Where are US/Europe's gay footballers/sportspeople?

The situation in Kosovo has nothing to do with Serbia. Every single EU member allows Gay pride parades and protects their marchers from violence. Including Bulgaria. Including Lithuania. That's why Croatia is getting in and Serbia will have to wait until it moves out of the 14th Century.

Serbia is a signatory to the ECHR Treaty, and a member of the Euro Court. This ban (especially in the context of repeated bans, and repeated refusals to jail anyone for attacking Gay persons or making terroristic threats against them) is in full and direct violation of that accord.

EU: You must fulfill all conditions.

Serbia: Which ones? Do we use the original interpretation of the acquis communautiare or the 'new' interpretations that are made especially for Serbia?

EU: You must fight corruption, crime and support human rights.

Serbia: The Court of Auditors has not signed off on the European Institutions budget for ten years and you yourselves persecute whistleblowers (van Buitenen/Andreesen).

EU Member states soldiers and officials deny serbs in Kosovo the basic provisions of the European Convention on Human Rights, the right to life and the right to be represented by whom they choose, for starters. The same EU states are concealing information about war crimes and corruption for political reasons.

EU: The conditions are the same for everyone.

Serbia: Unless you are sponsored by a powerful country like Germany (Croatia) or you possess a strategic position for NATO (Romania and Bulgaria), then you get a free pass in to the EU.

EU: All agreements must be implemented in full.

Serbia: Even major EU member states have not implemented dozens of EC Directives for years and a blind eye is turned to other states behaving in the same way. Join a club that is still rotten on the inside?

EU: Serbia must protect minorities.

Serbia: Have you heard of Guca? Why are hundreds of thousands of roma ethnically cleansed in Serbia? Should we burn gypsy camps as in Marseille, build walls to keep them out or banning gay parades like other EU member states?

We knew that it would be so. It should not be too rushed. We'll meet all requirements that have been set, and we'll see if there will be new. In the meantime, we will cooperate with other countries. Serbia will cooperate with all countries who want mutual cooperation.

If you cannot accept a proportion of your own population, how can you recognise Kosovo or join the EU?

Let's all go back to isolationism. That is what the nationalists want, and that is what they voted for when voting for Nicolic.

Why are we messing about talking about the EU when the country is patently not up to it?

Let's leave Serbia for five years and see if anyone grows up enough to understand what the EU is about.

After all, it they have hardly escaped the Milosevic mentality. Perhaps we expect too much.

That's what the nationalist posters want - and who needs them anyway.

Unless Serbia fights to join the EU - keep it out.

Luv

Since when did holding Gay Pride parades become a condition for joining the EU? Is someone suggesting that this be a NEW condition?

To be brief:

Lithuania 1st Pride Parade: 2010 (ban overturned in court), joined EU: 2004

Latvia 1st Pride Parade: 2005 (opposed by then PM), 2006 attacked and failed, joined EU: 2004

Poland 1st Pride Parade: 2001, banned 2005 (Lech Kaczynski), joined EU: 2004

Bulgaria 1st Pride Parade: 2008, joined EU: 2007

As long as other events are held and continued support and information is ongoing, then not having a gay pride parade is not the end of the world. One day further down the road probably when Serbia gets used to these minorities and realized that they are not a threat. Do not forget history where the american police used to regularly attack gay bars/clubs and beat up and arrest gay people. Stonewall 1968 was the beginning of a long process for equal rights that is still far from over in the West (as a commenter noted about gay sports people). Serbia is not very far along in this process, but the police don't raid gay bars etc. like the NYPD and others did. There's still a long way to go and it is debatable whether holding a Pride Parade now is sensible, regardless of the militants on both sides.

When the the HELL are you pro EU people going to WAKE UP?The EU is going down,don't go with it.For all you german boot lickers and nato lovers that means "KAPUT!"

"If you bend over, we might promise you something".

Brussels has no credibility left.

the consensus within the EU is that Serbia's borders exclude Kosovo.
the consensus this government claims to have is to stall the process and buy time hoping for something magical to happen in their favour or use Kosovo to swing public opinion (votes) and divert attention to things more important

"She is convinced that neither the EU nor its member states will ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo’s unilaterally declared independence."

There have been in the last 7 days only enough statements which say quite the opposite. The EU won't demand aynthing, but member states will.

EU: You must fulfill all conditions.

Serbia: Which ones? Do we use the original interpretation of the acquis communautiare or the 'new' interpretations that are made especially for Serbia?

EU: You must fight corruption, crime and support human rights.

Serbia: The Court of Auditors has not signed off on the European Institutions budget for ten years and you yourselves persecute whistleblowers (van Buitenen/Andreesen).

EU Member states soldiers and officials deny serbs in Kosovo the basic provisions of the European Convention on Human Rights, the right to life and the right to be represented by whom they choose, for starters. The same EU states are concealing information about war crimes and corruption for political reasons.

EU: The conditions are the same for everyone.

Serbia: Unless you are sponsored by a powerful country like Germany (Croatia) or you possess a strategic position for NATO (Romania and Bulgaria), then you get a free pass in to the EU.

EU: All agreements must be implemented in full.

Serbia: Even major EU member states have not implemented dozens of EC Directives for years and a blind eye is turned to other states behaving in the same way. Join a club that is still rotten on the inside?

EU: Serbia must protect minorities.

Serbia: Have you heard of Guca? Why are hundreds of thousands of roma ethnically cleansed in Serbia? Should we burn gypsy camps as in Marseille, build walls to keep them out or banning gay parades like other EU member states?

The situation in Kosovo has nothing to do with Serbia. Every single EU member allows Gay pride parades and protects their marchers from violence. Including Bulgaria. Including Lithuania. That's why Croatia is getting in and Serbia will have to wait until it moves out of the 14th Century.

Serbia is a signatory to the ECHR Treaty, and a member of the Euro Court. This ban (especially in the context of repeated bans, and repeated refusals to jail anyone for attacking Gay persons or making terroristic threats against them) is in full and direct violation of that accord.

Sure you can have talks....Here's how they likely go.
EU: You stand in repeated violation of your prior agreements for freedom of expression, assembly, protest, speech, and petition
Serbia: But we changed our constitution to allow for rights for minorities
EU: But you can write all of amendments to your constitution you want, but if you guys refuse to implement them, they actually make you look worse. You give the impression that you are unwilling or unable to protect your Gay population from violent thugs running amok all over the streets of your capital.
Serbia: But this was an internal security decision.
EU: We've given you how much money to train your security forces? Seriously this looks like a question of will on your part.
Serbia: But our church is against Gay people having any rights
EU: That is irrelevant. Besides, you don't seem to have taken any steps to protect them. Last year you cancelled their rights because of these same concerns. And what have you done in the interim? Nothing. A woman wearing a reainbow flag was stabbed. You caught the perpretrator and then let him go. No one has gone to jail for the violence in the streets two years ago. Or for the threats against Gay people last year. Or this year.
Serbia: But we're trying.
EU: We don't see any thing approaching 'trying'.
Serbia: By the way, can we get some more money for our security forces so that they can pretend to do their jobs?
EU: These talks are concluded.

If you cannot accept a proportion of your own population, how can you recognise Kosovo or join the EU?

Let's all go back to isolationism. That is what the nationalists want, and that is what they voted for when voting for Nicolic.

Why are we messing about talking about the EU when the country is patently not up to it?

Let's leave Serbia for five years and see if anyone grows up enough to understand what the EU is about.

After all, it they have hardly escaped the Milosevic mentality. Perhaps we expect too much.

That's what the nationalist posters want - and who needs them anyway.

Unless Serbia fights to join the EU - keep it out.

Luv

Pop quiz: Where are US/Europe's gay footballers/sportspeople?

We knew that it would be so. It should not be too rushed. We'll meet all requirements that have been set, and we'll see if there will be new. In the meantime, we will cooperate with other countries. Serbia will cooperate with all countries who want mutual cooperation.

Since when did holding Gay Pride parades become a condition for joining the EU? Is someone suggesting that this be a NEW condition?

To be brief:

Lithuania 1st Pride Parade: 2010 (ban overturned in court), joined EU: 2004

Latvia 1st Pride Parade: 2005 (opposed by then PM), 2006 attacked and failed, joined EU: 2004

Poland 1st Pride Parade: 2001, banned 2005 (Lech Kaczynski), joined EU: 2004

Bulgaria 1st Pride Parade: 2008, joined EU: 2007

As long as other events are held and continued support and information is ongoing, then not having a gay pride parade is not the end of the world. One day further down the road probably when Serbia gets used to these minorities and realized that they are not a threat. Do not forget history where the american police used to regularly attack gay bars/clubs and beat up and arrest gay people. Stonewall 1968 was the beginning of a long process for equal rights that is still far from over in the West (as a commenter noted about gay sports people). Serbia is not very far along in this process, but the police don't raid gay bars etc. like the NYPD and others did. There's still a long way to go and it is debatable whether holding a Pride Parade now is sensible, regardless of the militants on both sides.