Pride Parade will be held, organizers claim

This Parade is only next step to Destroy more of Serbia,after that they want from you Gays in the Military,this is just to weak your Country.And that Ivica Dacic is supporting this,is not a surprise,it shows once again that he is wrong Person for that Position.

We seem to be bombarded with articles on gay parade on a daily basis.Its another disgusting attempt by the eu to force tha acceptance of gay rights down the throats of the Serbs.
Once the annual gay parade is accepted as norm the next step will be gay civil marriages and then church ones.the whole masquerade has one purpose only,that is to reducible the institution of church the Serbian society has been built upon.

@Mazbln

Do you wanna compare Germany with Serbia,please come on!Its enough with thoose Gay Parades if Countrys wanna do that fine, but everyone have see that People dont want that in Serbia.So why Goverment still want it is the Question,for a ridiculous Eu-membership?Maybe,they now very well its for their benefit they will become more Power and more Money,thats is why they supporting this nothing else.

@LAZAR D

Although I do agree with your point criticising the neo-liberal economy, I wouldn't call you a traitor, commie, western agent, gay, Yugoslavist or a Nato puppet, rather an idiot.

Danilo said, "This issue brings out all the fruitcakes"

Fruitcakes ... an appropriate word for both sides of the argument.

One thing's for sure.... This issue brings out all the fruitcakes.

@ned taylor

People shouldn't have to take their kids elsewhere just because some gays want to flaunt their abnormality. The fact that the parade will disrupt Belgrade life even for a day is wrong, they are the ones who should have to keep away, there is no vital need to them to parade.

@jericko_one Ahh, and because several hundred thousand people celebrate the gay parades in Germany each year, Germany is such a "weak country". This argument is ridiculous.

UHHH GOD DISGUSTING!!!EUUWW,they are like...you know.. demanding their rights!When is the church when you need them (well you dont really need them).I agree We need to bring back our traditional morals!I do want to apologise,for as some of you might have perhaps noticed,for my criticism of our Holy Church leadership.These people who's demand for rights are an insult to our society! Why the worst thing our priests like Mr.Arsic do is they smuther our children with kisses.

PS.If you want to know who or what is really destroying Serbia,allow me to inform you:
1).This neoliberal economic system which as we know kisses the backside of the 1 percent and the western/nato puppet elite and is a total failure.
2.)Backward, nationalists like DVERI and OBRAZ who spew their BS and refuse to live in the next century ,which in their case is the 13th.
3.)Yes I am sarcastic in the first part of my comment.Please,I am also ready for all your responses you might have along the lines of:Traitor,Commie,western agent,gay,Yugoslavist,Nato puppet and so on.

-One of the organizers of the gay Pride Parade, Goran Miletić, expects that the manifestation will be held on October 6 in Belgrade.-

never give in -- never give up! roberto/ frisco

How is this for hypocrisy .... the wack-job robbie/frisco believes Serbs need to undergo denazification BUT if you support a gay pride parade and are a Serb robbie/frisco supports you fully.

"Although I do agree with your point criticising the neo-liberal economy, I wouldn't call you a traitor, commie, western agent, gay, Yugoslavist or a Nato puppet, rather an idiot."Please my dear SCP UK,dont be a hypocrite,(thats the church's job).I would reply and in turn directly call you an idiot,but that would be an insult to idiots around the globe.

Aside from the sarcasm.I just want to make an obvious point.Which is that some people (like me) read books other than the bible or koran.You can live in this deluded right-tard fantasy that the one extreme,the neoliberals,are in essense somehow different than thugs like DVERI and OBRAZ,who beat up and threaten innocent people for demanding their rights.I myself dont,because its exactly that:a fantasy.I myself would not actually ban them as that would mean being on the same low level they currently stand on.I am against them using violence and unlawfull threats,which they do.These gangs,because thats what they are,are a (wrong) reaction to the economic hardships the country is going through,They will believe anything.Its our version of the tea party.The west likes it that way,because instead of confronting real (economic) problems that keep us weak,we are making an imaginairy fifth collum,which does not even exist.

I would ask you to give me your reason for why you call me an idiot,but that of course would mean you would have an argument,which would in turn render you with the ability to debate in an intelligent manner.

@LAZAR D

I will fully explain to you why I called you that, you are missing a lot here. I also don't want to see violence, but you are wrong and ignorant to call Dveri and Obraz activists thugs, the violence stems from the football hooligans. While I disagree with the violence, let me explain why they are angry, because you obviously cannot see the bigger picture. Serbia is in economic hardship indeed, however they don't just target gays for the sake of it. What they are angry about is western powers pressuring Serbian authorities to use taxpayers' money on funding a parade which goes against the morals of the majority of people, not just that the the parade is not a necessity for Serbian society at all, gay people can live in Serbia normally without needing to parade their sexuality. So money is being spent on something which most find abhorent, it is not necessary for Serbian society at all and that money spent on organization, security etc, can be spent by the government more effectively on things like hospitals and infrastructure, even helping to boost small business, things that actually help Serbian society as a whole, not just a tiny little sect of people as small as the gay community. Clear enough?

Ohh boy, a lot to do here...

1.)The horrible amount of money being spent on these people by the government is about 2500 british pounds for a website.Do you honestly think that this even comes close to the corruption in the church or the government!?In one instance there were 350,000 euros stolen from church funds by church and government officials to pay for a construction project.And you are complaining about these people getting 2500 punds!?
2.)THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY.These are people trying to get their rights.There is no western backing for these people on the level of OTPOR or anything like that.If there was 70 percent of them would not experience violence inflicted upon them on a regular basis.
3.)Homosexuality my friend has been around for a while so let me ease your revulsion and fear.In ancient Greece it was considered normal,even in "MANLY" Sparta,so there is no reason to fear a widespread feminization of Serbia in some way or a reduction in births or something like that.
4.)Dveri and Obraz are thugs,because the vast majority of them if not all of them ARE hooligans.People who randomly beat up other people for demanding their rights are in my view hooligans.If you condem violence you would then have a lot to condem THEM about.
5.)Im just going to go ahead and call you an idiot,because thats what you truly are.

Clear enough?

You are one damn fool if you really believe that only £2500 would have been the total cost of the parade, you are one naive individual, you think you know it all but your liberal arrogance fills your head with rubbish. So what is homosexuals have been around since ancient Greece, whats your point? That doesn't make it a normality, the fact that it has been opposed generally (and still generally around the world) until very recently doesn't change whether it is right to portray it as normal, it is not. Anyway the decision has been made by the government, they have wised up and banned it, probably the police union had a lot to do with that decision, I know some police officers and one relative in the Zandarmerija, who hate that they have to go and defend something they find abhorent. But I guess you should go and cry in a corner somewhere now.

HA! THEN SHOW ME YOUR PROVE! do you have any government documents showing that they fund them more?I showed you my figures.If the west would be supporting them,they would ALREADY have their rights.My point about homosexuality existing for a long time is exactly that!The fact that the majority of scientists have PROVEN that it is not a mental condition,constitutes it as natural.What is morality?The great philosopher Montaigne said that barbarity and abnormality are the terms used by those who simply abhore difference.The fact that its opposed today makes it abnormal?:So Women when they were asking for the vote,they were abnormal?When Blacks in the US were asking for equal civil rights, were they disgusting?

As for the police It does not matter who they like to defend or not.THEIR JOB is to keep the peace,and prevent violence from getting out of hand.Their incompetance apparently does not stop them from beating up people who protest a NATO summit now do they?

You rightwing churchgoing idiots are the reason why this country throughout history has been kept backward,and thus has always been always getting crushed by major powers.Instead of modernizing ourselves we are still denying people their rights.

Dude,my "liberal" arrogance?You really dont get it do you? You dont have a leg to stand on,your lack of an arguement shows that.

@Danilo

I am not aspiring to Islamic countries, you think they are the only ones opposed? Try other societies like in South America, Africa, Russia, all which guard their traditions. Oh and for that matter, how about China, a country of about 1 billion people, also the vast majority are opposed. So no I am not saying Serbia should look to be like Islamic countries, rather to guard its traditions and culture, and not be corrupted by liberal western media and cosmopolitan encouraged so called morals. Of all of Serbia's problems, and you think the gays deserve top priority??? Gays obviously cannot get rid of the fact that they are gay, so nodoby is forcing them to be heterosexuals, and I dont know if you are gay or not but answer me this please, what is the crucial reason you believe that gays MUST parade their gayness?

Jericko: I think it's a bit harsh to claim that the government 'wants' the gay parade to take place. They may well allow it to happen but that's not the same thing. There are good reasons to send out a message that Serbia is a tolerant country other than to please the EU. Of course it may well be that Serbia is not a tolerant country, time will tell.

I am not gay and have never attended any of these parades but frankly I couldn't care less if people wish to dress up and flaunt themselves around. I will always be on the other side of town doing my own thing and ignoring the whole spectacle. I read that people are worried about the message that such a parade would send to children. It won't send them any message if their parents take them swimming or to the zoo or cinema that day.

SCPUK,

You know, you can tell a lot of a man by the company he keeps. I find the company you keep a bit strange, son. It seems a bit incongruous that you're looking up to muslim theocracies. When you say "generally, around the world", we're talking about Islamic and African dumps. Do you really think that's the direction that Serbian society should be heading?

I've answered that question many times, SCPUK.

All I can do is repeat myself

Freedom of association in public is an essential ingredient to any healthy society. If the raspberry farmers can do it (and block roads in the process), so should gays be able to walk around 1 block.

Forbid the gays today, and tomorrow you won't have the right do demonstrate for whatever cause you find important.

@jericko_one Ahh, and because several hundred thousand people celebrate the gay parades in Germany each year, Germany is such a "weak country". This argument is ridiculous.

One thing's for sure.... This issue brings out all the fruitcakes.

Jericko: I think it's a bit harsh to claim that the government 'wants' the gay parade to take place. They may well allow it to happen but that's not the same thing. There are good reasons to send out a message that Serbia is a tolerant country other than to please the EU. Of course it may well be that Serbia is not a tolerant country, time will tell.

I am not gay and have never attended any of these parades but frankly I couldn't care less if people wish to dress up and flaunt themselves around. I will always be on the other side of town doing my own thing and ignoring the whole spectacle. I read that people are worried about the message that such a parade would send to children. It won't send them any message if their parents take them swimming or to the zoo or cinema that day.

UHHH GOD DISGUSTING!!!EUUWW,they are like...you know.. demanding their rights!When is the church when you need them (well you dont really need them).I agree We need to bring back our traditional morals!I do want to apologise,for as some of you might have perhaps noticed,for my criticism of our Holy Church leadership.These people who's demand for rights are an insult to our society! Why the worst thing our priests like Mr.Arsic do is they smuther our children with kisses.

PS.If you want to know who or what is really destroying Serbia,allow me to inform you:
1).This neoliberal economic system which as we know kisses the backside of the 1 percent and the western/nato puppet elite and is a total failure.
2.)Backward, nationalists like DVERI and OBRAZ who spew their BS and refuse to live in the next century ,which in their case is the 13th.
3.)Yes I am sarcastic in the first part of my comment.Please,I am also ready for all your responses you might have along the lines of:Traitor,Commie,western agent,gay,Yugoslavist,Nato puppet and so on.

-One of the organizers of the gay Pride Parade, Goran Miletić, expects that the manifestation will be held on October 6 in Belgrade.-

never give in -- never give up! roberto/ frisco

This Parade is only next step to Destroy more of Serbia,after that they want from you Gays in the Military,this is just to weak your Country.And that Ivica Dacic is supporting this,is not a surprise,it shows once again that he is wrong Person for that Position.

We seem to be bombarded with articles on gay parade on a daily basis.Its another disgusting attempt by the eu to force tha acceptance of gay rights down the throats of the Serbs.
Once the annual gay parade is accepted as norm the next step will be gay civil marriages and then church ones.the whole masquerade has one purpose only,that is to reducible the institution of church the Serbian society has been built upon.

Danilo said, "This issue brings out all the fruitcakes"

Fruitcakes ... an appropriate word for both sides of the argument.

"Although I do agree with your point criticising the neo-liberal economy, I wouldn't call you a traitor, commie, western agent, gay, Yugoslavist or a Nato puppet, rather an idiot."Please my dear SCP UK,dont be a hypocrite,(thats the church's job).I would reply and in turn directly call you an idiot,but that would be an insult to idiots around the globe.

Aside from the sarcasm.I just want to make an obvious point.Which is that some people (like me) read books other than the bible or koran.You can live in this deluded right-tard fantasy that the one extreme,the neoliberals,are in essense somehow different than thugs like DVERI and OBRAZ,who beat up and threaten innocent people for demanding their rights.I myself dont,because its exactly that:a fantasy.I myself would not actually ban them as that would mean being on the same low level they currently stand on.I am against them using violence and unlawfull threats,which they do.These gangs,because thats what they are,are a (wrong) reaction to the economic hardships the country is going through,They will believe anything.Its our version of the tea party.The west likes it that way,because instead of confronting real (economic) problems that keep us weak,we are making an imaginairy fifth collum,which does not even exist.

I would ask you to give me your reason for why you call me an idiot,but that of course would mean you would have an argument,which would in turn render you with the ability to debate in an intelligent manner.

How is this for hypocrisy .... the wack-job robbie/frisco believes Serbs need to undergo denazification BUT if you support a gay pride parade and are a Serb robbie/frisco supports you fully.

Ohh boy, a lot to do here...

1.)The horrible amount of money being spent on these people by the government is about 2500 british pounds for a website.Do you honestly think that this even comes close to the corruption in the church or the government!?In one instance there were 350,000 euros stolen from church funds by church and government officials to pay for a construction project.And you are complaining about these people getting 2500 punds!?
2.)THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY.These are people trying to get their rights.There is no western backing for these people on the level of OTPOR or anything like that.If there was 70 percent of them would not experience violence inflicted upon them on a regular basis.
3.)Homosexuality my friend has been around for a while so let me ease your revulsion and fear.In ancient Greece it was considered normal,even in "MANLY" Sparta,so there is no reason to fear a widespread feminization of Serbia in some way or a reduction in births or something like that.
4.)Dveri and Obraz are thugs,because the vast majority of them if not all of them ARE hooligans.People who randomly beat up other people for demanding their rights are in my view hooligans.If you condem violence you would then have a lot to condem THEM about.
5.)Im just going to go ahead and call you an idiot,because thats what you truly are.

Clear enough?

SCPUK,

You know, you can tell a lot of a man by the company he keeps. I find the company you keep a bit strange, son. It seems a bit incongruous that you're looking up to muslim theocracies. When you say "generally, around the world", we're talking about Islamic and African dumps. Do you really think that's the direction that Serbian society should be heading?

I've answered that question many times, SCPUK.

All I can do is repeat myself

Freedom of association in public is an essential ingredient to any healthy society. If the raspberry farmers can do it (and block roads in the process), so should gays be able to walk around 1 block.

Forbid the gays today, and tomorrow you won't have the right do demonstrate for whatever cause you find important.

@ned taylor

People shouldn't have to take their kids elsewhere just because some gays want to flaunt their abnormality. The fact that the parade will disrupt Belgrade life even for a day is wrong, they are the ones who should have to keep away, there is no vital need to them to parade.

@LAZAR D

I will fully explain to you why I called you that, you are missing a lot here. I also don't want to see violence, but you are wrong and ignorant to call Dveri and Obraz activists thugs, the violence stems from the football hooligans. While I disagree with the violence, let me explain why they are angry, because you obviously cannot see the bigger picture. Serbia is in economic hardship indeed, however they don't just target gays for the sake of it. What they are angry about is western powers pressuring Serbian authorities to use taxpayers' money on funding a parade which goes against the morals of the majority of people, not just that the the parade is not a necessity for Serbian society at all, gay people can live in Serbia normally without needing to parade their sexuality. So money is being spent on something which most find abhorent, it is not necessary for Serbian society at all and that money spent on organization, security etc, can be spent by the government more effectively on things like hospitals and infrastructure, even helping to boost small business, things that actually help Serbian society as a whole, not just a tiny little sect of people as small as the gay community. Clear enough?

You are one damn fool if you really believe that only £2500 would have been the total cost of the parade, you are one naive individual, you think you know it all but your liberal arrogance fills your head with rubbish. So what is homosexuals have been around since ancient Greece, whats your point? That doesn't make it a normality, the fact that it has been opposed generally (and still generally around the world) until very recently doesn't change whether it is right to portray it as normal, it is not. Anyway the decision has been made by the government, they have wised up and banned it, probably the police union had a lot to do with that decision, I know some police officers and one relative in the Zandarmerija, who hate that they have to go and defend something they find abhorent. But I guess you should go and cry in a corner somewhere now.

HA! THEN SHOW ME YOUR PROVE! do you have any government documents showing that they fund them more?I showed you my figures.If the west would be supporting them,they would ALREADY have their rights.My point about homosexuality existing for a long time is exactly that!The fact that the majority of scientists have PROVEN that it is not a mental condition,constitutes it as natural.What is morality?The great philosopher Montaigne said that barbarity and abnormality are the terms used by those who simply abhore difference.The fact that its opposed today makes it abnormal?:So Women when they were asking for the vote,they were abnormal?When Blacks in the US were asking for equal civil rights, were they disgusting?

As for the police It does not matter who they like to defend or not.THEIR JOB is to keep the peace,and prevent violence from getting out of hand.Their incompetance apparently does not stop them from beating up people who protest a NATO summit now do they?

You rightwing churchgoing idiots are the reason why this country throughout history has been kept backward,and thus has always been always getting crushed by major powers.Instead of modernizing ourselves we are still denying people their rights.

Dude,my "liberal" arrogance?You really dont get it do you? You dont have a leg to stand on,your lack of an arguement shows that.

@Danilo

I am not aspiring to Islamic countries, you think they are the only ones opposed? Try other societies like in South America, Africa, Russia, all which guard their traditions. Oh and for that matter, how about China, a country of about 1 billion people, also the vast majority are opposed. So no I am not saying Serbia should look to be like Islamic countries, rather to guard its traditions and culture, and not be corrupted by liberal western media and cosmopolitan encouraged so called morals. Of all of Serbia's problems, and you think the gays deserve top priority??? Gays obviously cannot get rid of the fact that they are gay, so nodoby is forcing them to be heterosexuals, and I dont know if you are gay or not but answer me this please, what is the crucial reason you believe that gays MUST parade their gayness?

@Mazbln

Do you wanna compare Germany with Serbia,please come on!Its enough with thoose Gay Parades if Countrys wanna do that fine, but everyone have see that People dont want that in Serbia.So why Goverment still want it is the Question,for a ridiculous Eu-membership?Maybe,they now very well its for their benefit they will become more Power and more Money,thats is why they supporting this nothing else.

@LAZAR D

Although I do agree with your point criticising the neo-liberal economy, I wouldn't call you a traitor, commie, western agent, gay, Yugoslavist or a Nato puppet, rather an idiot.