“Serbian officials won’t speak with Kosovo PM”

Who wants to speak with a mafioso drug dealer?this guy has blood all over his hands.

Would Albanians shake hands, and sit at a negotiating table with Milosevic if he were alive, no? Serbs view Thaci as a criminal of the worst kind, don't Albanians and the West understand that? The US and the EU are willing to look the other way when it comes to Thaci's crimes, all in the name of regional stability, but there will be no true stability until this accused war criminal (The Snake), is thoroughly investigated, and if be the case, tried and sentenced. There are too many dead, innocent souls, and their remaining loved ones, that need peace. War is war, but what kind of human (animal) would have internal organs extracted from captives?

Normally two states...
(Michael, 24 September 2012 10:17)
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LOL! "two states"... actually, if we are talking states then we can safely exclude "Kosova"* for that list. Secondly, in the new civilised world, leaders tend not to have accusations of organ harvesting, terrorism and leading mafia gangs.

So in other words, you can freely deal with your partners in crime (US, Germany, UK). The record of their recent leaders is no better than organ man Hash Touchy.

Big deal.

Only unemployed lowlifes from football clubs and political partys would cheer for this kind of news.

Go hug Chad, and dont talk to your neighbours.

Serbia will not speak with the Kosovo PM due to his past. This is a cheap excuse. Normally two states are speaking on a higher level after lower levels have reached some kinds of compromises or after they are closer in important questions...this is not visible here, so Serbia has not made effrts to prepare the ground through real diplomacy, secret talks with journalists, scientists etc" from the other side to prepare the ground for official contacts...all this was done over years and years between the two German states: un-official and secret contacts with conferences of foundations, contacts with top-journalists and business-people. Is Serbia ABLE to deal with all the Kosovo-problems. If I see the new negotiator, a good teacher would say: dont worry, I will help you to come throgh the exams.

"Would Albanians shake hands, and sit at a negotiating table with Milosevic if he were alive, no?
(ecoman"

Most of todays politicians were there when Serbia committed genocide, with proof. And now you want to be mr moral again by hanging on to your own fabrications that you cant prove at all?

Facts, dude, not superstition of "chosen holy master race bs".

I wonder why there needs to be negotiations left and right between Serbia and Kosovo if Kosovo is independent? Could it be because Kosovo is anything but independent?

Sorry, Koko, one crime does not justify another. If war crimes were committed by Serbs during the Balkan wars, the Hague is dealing with them. But when it comes to KLA war crimes, the West drags its feet, and nothing is ever actually investigated. Do you not understand how bad they (West) would look if Thaci and the KLA were brought to trial for organ-harvesting? I don't think they will ever allow that to happen. There are way too many EU officials, and private citizens, that point to Thaci being involved in numerous war crimes, and organ-harvesting being the most heinous. So no, there will be not hand shake for this suspected criminal, by any Serbian politician. Tadic did, but that was his own business - and he is gone.

In practise Kosovo is on its territory a kind of state, not perfect, but recognized by 100 foreign countries, this is fact.
(Michael, 24 September 2012 15:44)

In reality, Kosovo is a glorified protectorate, barely functioning, and recognized by 89 foreign countries.

Hashim Thaci has committed crimes against the Serbs. It can not be forgotten. If the EU has turned a blind eye to both eyes, we are not. Serbs were kidnapped, their organs were removed in a brutal manner, as in the time of Aztecs. Thaci was involved in this horrible crime.

Michael, only around 90 countries have recognized an independent Albanian KiM, that is less than 50% of the world's sovereign nations. But even if more than half recognize, Kosovo is not going anywhere without Serbia's approval. Isn't that why we have these daily debates, and why the West keeps pushing Serbia to play along? Are you in favor of an independent KiM, Michael - and why?

Eric
If you read US state deprt and NATO reports you'll see that Thaci is described as the Don Corleone of Kosovo.Drug dealing,pimping,human trafficking,money laundering and the rest.You should be proud of your leader.

"Zoran" wrote:LOL! "two states"... actually, if we are talking states then we can safely exclude "Kosova"* for that list.

In practise Kosovo is on its territory a kind of state, not perfect, but recognized by 100 foreign countries, this is fact...and Kosovo will never again become apart of Serbia...so Serbia can only if the Serbs are clever get a high price for a "historic" deal, and this price could only be the EU-membership, but if Serbia-what they are doing every day-are only looking like a rabbit on the big foreign snakes, it will get at the end Zero, politics is more as to play a "little Slobo"...would buy from such persons a used car:)

“Serbian officials won’t speak with Kosovo PM”

Really! You're kidding wright?
Thaci lost his sleep over it. Did he ask any Serbian official when he did declare Kosovo independence? Or he asked when he sand his ROSU up north.
And I think, he has Serbian blood on his hand of-course, didn't he fought them? And I have to thank him for that as any Albanian does.

Who wants to speak with a mafioso drug dealer?this guy has blood all over his hands.
(Gotsefromohrid, 24 September 2012 11:

Show me proof, show me pictures with the blood on his hand......when he is found guilty then you can say that as for now he is innocent. Your PM have blood on his hands, he worked with milosevic........soon your politicians will have to face Thaci, weather they like it or not

If they had a choice this story would make sense.

Why bother talking about accusations when a better reason not to talk with Thaci is that he's little more than a sock puppet for American interests? Talk to the hand that not only animates him, grooms him and teaches him proper eating manners, but the hand that keeps him out of the Hague and constantly elected to public office. Once America agrees to a solution, Thaci or any other American protected kleptocrat in Pristina will sign whatever document is put in front of them.

Go hug Chad, and dont talk to your neighbours.
(koko, 24 September 2012 11:48)

You know Chad apparently recognized Kosovo? Or did I miss something about Chad being the latest country to either revoke recognition or declare it never happened? :)

"...internal organs extracted from captives?"

considering that Dr Marty himself never accused Thaci of being involved in this and these allgeations have never been substantiated to begin with(year 3 now, still nothing), I suggest you find another conspiracy to whine about

Who wants to speak with a mafioso drug dealer?this guy has blood all over his hands.
(Gotsefromohrid, 24 September 2012 11:

Show me proof, show me pictures with the blood on his hand......when he is found guilty then you can say that as for now he is innocent. Your PM have blood on his hands, he worked with milosevic........soon your politicians will have to face Thaci, weather they like it or not
(Eric, 24 September 2012 16:58)

Eric, could you show pictures of Milosevic with blood on his hands?

oh eric, you're delightfully ironic today. i'm unaware if the heavy handed irony was intentional or simply a fauxpas, but you demand proof, of blood on hands, while without proof accuse someone else for having bloddy hands because they were in the same political party, and worked with, milosevic, who was never found guilty of blood on his hands. i notice that it is a mere technicallity, much like the whole nature of modern law is, but all you have a speculation, much like those that claim blood on thaci's hands. the burdern of proof is for the accuser to show, and the burden of guilt is for a court to determine. a court has not determined such guilt. what you, or i, or anyone else thinks of guilt is not for us to decide. it is up to a system run by international courts.

"Hank" wrote:I wonder why there needs to be negotiations left and right between Serbia and Kosovo if Kosovo is independent? Could it be because Kosovo is anything but independent?

the so-called "negotiations" are only talks about the implementation of the Ahtisaari-plan in the north and the capitulation of Serbia in the fields energy, telecommunication etc....the talks earlier were bringing nothing positve for Serbia only strong results for Kosovo...by the way: many states are having negotiations, but this doesnt mean that they are not independent...possibly "Hank" has a very short view on politics nd international law?

in the new civilised world, leaders tend not to have accusations of organ harvesting, terrorism and leading mafia gangs.
(Zoran, 24 September 2012 13:45)

Bush was accused of terrorism left and right and still the God and Protector of Serbia, Mr. Putin himself, met him regularly :)

Kosovo is not going anywhere without Serbia's approval.
(ecoman, 24 September 2012 18:07)

Define "anywhere". Kosovo certainly is not planning to go to Moon and certainly is not planning to go to Serbia since, I guess, for both, Serbia's approval is needed :)

If you read US state deprt and NATO reports you'll see that Thaci is described as the Don Corleone of Kosovo.
(gotsefromohrid, 24 September 2012 23:32)

But aren't the US and NATO the evil on Earth, liers and not to be trusted ?!

But aren't the US and NATO the evil on Earth, liers and not to be trusted ?!
(icj1, 25 September 2012 05:30)
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Exactly. They certainly know what's what and who's who but publicly they sing a different song.

There are many many rooms in the UN building. If I were in charge of some paparazzi, I would assign one to follow Nikolic 24/7, one to follow Thaci 24/7 and see if they intersect at some point. Imagine what a scoop that would be in Serbia and in Kosovo.

Serbia will not speak with the Kosovo PM due to his past. This is a cheap excuse. Normally two states are speaking on a higher level after lower levels have reached some kinds of compromises or after they are closer in important questions...this is not visible here, so Serbia has not made effrts to prepare the ground through real diplomacy, secret talks with journalists, scientists etc" from the other side to prepare the ground for official contacts...all this was done over years and years between the two German states: un-official and secret contacts with conferences of foundations, contacts with top-journalists and business-people. Is Serbia ABLE to deal with all the Kosovo-problems. If I see the new negotiator, a good teacher would say: dont worry, I will help you to come throgh the exams.

Who wants to speak with a mafioso drug dealer?this guy has blood all over his hands.

Would Albanians shake hands, and sit at a negotiating table with Milosevic if he were alive, no? Serbs view Thaci as a criminal of the worst kind, don't Albanians and the West understand that? The US and the EU are willing to look the other way when it comes to Thaci's crimes, all in the name of regional stability, but there will be no true stability until this accused war criminal (The Snake), is thoroughly investigated, and if be the case, tried and sentenced. There are too many dead, innocent souls, and their remaining loved ones, that need peace. War is war, but what kind of human (animal) would have internal organs extracted from captives?

Who wants to speak with a mafioso drug dealer?this guy has blood all over his hands.
(Gotsefromohrid, 24 September 2012 11:

Show me proof, show me pictures with the blood on his hand......when he is found guilty then you can say that as for now he is innocent. Your PM have blood on his hands, he worked with milosevic........soon your politicians will have to face Thaci, weather they like it or not

Big deal.

Only unemployed lowlifes from football clubs and political partys would cheer for this kind of news.

Go hug Chad, and dont talk to your neighbours.

"Would Albanians shake hands, and sit at a negotiating table with Milosevic if he were alive, no?
(ecoman"

Most of todays politicians were there when Serbia committed genocide, with proof. And now you want to be mr moral again by hanging on to your own fabrications that you cant prove at all?

Facts, dude, not superstition of "chosen holy master race bs".

Normally two states...
(Michael, 24 September 2012 10:17)
--
LOL! "two states"... actually, if we are talking states then we can safely exclude "Kosova"* for that list. Secondly, in the new civilised world, leaders tend not to have accusations of organ harvesting, terrorism and leading mafia gangs.

So in other words, you can freely deal with your partners in crime (US, Germany, UK). The record of their recent leaders is no better than organ man Hash Touchy.

"Zoran" wrote:LOL! "two states"... actually, if we are talking states then we can safely exclude "Kosova"* for that list.

In practise Kosovo is on its territory a kind of state, not perfect, but recognized by 100 foreign countries, this is fact...and Kosovo will never again become apart of Serbia...so Serbia can only if the Serbs are clever get a high price for a "historic" deal, and this price could only be the EU-membership, but if Serbia-what they are doing every day-are only looking like a rabbit on the big foreign snakes, it will get at the end Zero, politics is more as to play a "little Slobo"...would buy from such persons a used car:)

If they had a choice this story would make sense.

“Serbian officials won’t speak with Kosovo PM”

Really! You're kidding wright?
Thaci lost his sleep over it. Did he ask any Serbian official when he did declare Kosovo independence? Or he asked when he sand his ROSU up north.
And I think, he has Serbian blood on his hand of-course, didn't he fought them? And I have to thank him for that as any Albanian does.

Sorry, Koko, one crime does not justify another. If war crimes were committed by Serbs during the Balkan wars, the Hague is dealing with them. But when it comes to KLA war crimes, the West drags its feet, and nothing is ever actually investigated. Do you not understand how bad they (West) would look if Thaci and the KLA were brought to trial for organ-harvesting? I don't think they will ever allow that to happen. There are way too many EU officials, and private citizens, that point to Thaci being involved in numerous war crimes, and organ-harvesting being the most heinous. So no, there will be not hand shake for this suspected criminal, by any Serbian politician. Tadic did, but that was his own business - and he is gone.

"Hank" wrote:I wonder why there needs to be negotiations left and right between Serbia and Kosovo if Kosovo is independent? Could it be because Kosovo is anything but independent?

the so-called "negotiations" are only talks about the implementation of the Ahtisaari-plan in the north and the capitulation of Serbia in the fields energy, telecommunication etc....the talks earlier were bringing nothing positve for Serbia only strong results for Kosovo...by the way: many states are having negotiations, but this doesnt mean that they are not independent...possibly "Hank" has a very short view on politics nd international law?

Eric
If you read US state deprt and NATO reports you'll see that Thaci is described as the Don Corleone of Kosovo.Drug dealing,pimping,human trafficking,money laundering and the rest.You should be proud of your leader.

Hashim Thaci has committed crimes against the Serbs. It can not be forgotten. If the EU has turned a blind eye to both eyes, we are not. Serbs were kidnapped, their organs were removed in a brutal manner, as in the time of Aztecs. Thaci was involved in this horrible crime.

Michael, only around 90 countries have recognized an independent Albanian KiM, that is less than 50% of the world's sovereign nations. But even if more than half recognize, Kosovo is not going anywhere without Serbia's approval. Isn't that why we have these daily debates, and why the West keeps pushing Serbia to play along? Are you in favor of an independent KiM, Michael - and why?

"...internal organs extracted from captives?"

considering that Dr Marty himself never accused Thaci of being involved in this and these allgeations have never been substantiated to begin with(year 3 now, still nothing), I suggest you find another conspiracy to whine about

Why bother talking about accusations when a better reason not to talk with Thaci is that he's little more than a sock puppet for American interests? Talk to the hand that not only animates him, grooms him and teaches him proper eating manners, but the hand that keeps him out of the Hague and constantly elected to public office. Once America agrees to a solution, Thaci or any other American protected kleptocrat in Pristina will sign whatever document is put in front of them.

Go hug Chad, and dont talk to your neighbours.
(koko, 24 September 2012 11:48)

You know Chad apparently recognized Kosovo? Or did I miss something about Chad being the latest country to either revoke recognition or declare it never happened? :)

In practise Kosovo is on its territory a kind of state, not perfect, but recognized by 100 foreign countries, this is fact.
(Michael, 24 September 2012 15:44)

In reality, Kosovo is a glorified protectorate, barely functioning, and recognized by 89 foreign countries.

I wonder why there needs to be negotiations left and right between Serbia and Kosovo if Kosovo is independent? Could it be because Kosovo is anything but independent?

Who wants to speak with a mafioso drug dealer?this guy has blood all over his hands.
(Gotsefromohrid, 24 September 2012 11:

Show me proof, show me pictures with the blood on his hand......when he is found guilty then you can say that as for now he is innocent. Your PM have blood on his hands, he worked with milosevic........soon your politicians will have to face Thaci, weather they like it or not
(Eric, 24 September 2012 16:58)

Eric, could you show pictures of Milosevic with blood on his hands?

Kosovo is not going anywhere without Serbia's approval.
(ecoman, 24 September 2012 18:07)

Define "anywhere". Kosovo certainly is not planning to go to Moon and certainly is not planning to go to Serbia since, I guess, for both, Serbia's approval is needed :)

oh eric, you're delightfully ironic today. i'm unaware if the heavy handed irony was intentional or simply a fauxpas, but you demand proof, of blood on hands, while without proof accuse someone else for having bloddy hands because they were in the same political party, and worked with, milosevic, who was never found guilty of blood on his hands. i notice that it is a mere technicallity, much like the whole nature of modern law is, but all you have a speculation, much like those that claim blood on thaci's hands. the burdern of proof is for the accuser to show, and the burden of guilt is for a court to determine. a court has not determined such guilt. what you, or i, or anyone else thinks of guilt is not for us to decide. it is up to a system run by international courts.

in the new civilised world, leaders tend not to have accusations of organ harvesting, terrorism and leading mafia gangs.
(Zoran, 24 September 2012 13:45)

Bush was accused of terrorism left and right and still the God and Protector of Serbia, Mr. Putin himself, met him regularly :)

If you read US state deprt and NATO reports you'll see that Thaci is described as the Don Corleone of Kosovo.
(gotsefromohrid, 24 September 2012 23:32)

But aren't the US and NATO the evil on Earth, liers and not to be trusted ?!

But aren't the US and NATO the evil on Earth, liers and not to be trusted ?!
(icj1, 25 September 2012 05:30)
============================

Exactly. They certainly know what's what and who's who but publicly they sing a different song.

There are many many rooms in the UN building. If I were in charge of some paparazzi, I would assign one to follow Nikolic 24/7, one to follow Thaci 24/7 and see if they intersect at some point. Imagine what a scoop that would be in Serbia and in Kosovo.