"Kosovo is ours as long as we don't give it away"

more delusion. you will die not having seen Serbia's police in Prishtina again Mr Nikolic

Bill Gates' money is mine as long as I think it's mine.

Serbia will not give it away, and the Albanians cannot take it away. So where are we with KiM - frozen. I don't think that Pristina can come up with anything that can compensate for serbia giving KiM away - they have nothing but drugs, and they can keep that for themselves.

German daily posturing and threats on Serbia regarding kosovo's recognition -as a condition of EU entry-is a clear sign of how desperate they've become.

It's kosovo that needs recognition not Serbia.There is a large majority of the world's countries which do not recognise this "independent" Kosovo, an Islamic NATO puppet-state installed in another country's province and they never will.Why should Serbian politicians trade their territory in return for a fictitious membership of a club which is bankrupt financially,politically and morally?

Serbia should stick to its guns,history repeat itself and Balkan people have very good memories.

You better think about your bankrupt Serbia chetnick-President Nikolic.

more delusion. you will die not having seen Serbia's police in Prishtina again Mr Nikolic
(Nikolle, 16 September 2012 13:04)

Right on Nikolle.
Nikolic, including every single Serb on this planet earth knows that, but are just playing these games to convince their unborn children!

Again if he was lying we wouldn't have Germany pressuring Serbia to legitimize the occupation. We also would have the insecure hyenas who come on here day after day because they want us ever so much to 'recognize the reality' and repeat the same boring b.s. over and over trying to convince themselves.

Kosovo i Metohija is Orthodox Christian land and it is only under temporary occupation that will eventually be lifted either in a peaceful manner or by force, it don't matter.

(Leonidas, 16 September 2012 14:05)

don't you find interesting the fact that the only one that speak badly about Kosova are ppl from the only two Balkan bankrupt states: Greece and Serbia.

I think you should spend your time in taking care of your misery and refine your begging strategies. You don't have knowledge and wisdom to run your countries efficiently, yet you think you are in position to lecture others. Do your homework that will take you about 20 years to rebuild your state as Sarcozy was saying.

Bravo for president Nikolic! Serbia has been attacked and raped by several of their neighbours and NATO for the past 20 years.
Unprecedented international-level crime has been committed in occupying Kosovo and covering up genocide against Serbs (organ trafficking in Kosovo, "Storm" campaign of ethnic cleansing in Croatia, mass murders of Serbian civilians in Bosnia during 1990s civil war).
It will take a long time and hard work to undo the damage that's been committed, but over the millennia, Serbia has been destroyed and occupied by many (Turks, Germans) and Serbs have always prevailed over their enemies.

It is good to know that the "no alternative to EU" initiative has flopped (as expected). I like what I'm hearing from this government, it hits the nail right on the head but soon I will want to see actions and results. Lock up the criminals and lets see the investments pouring in.

As for KiM, anyone who attempts to give it away will have to deal with these people. LOL! Check -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrc5eSVprds

Ben - You talk of misery and bankruptcy of Serbia and suggest that the Serbs should take care of their own problems and not worry about Kosovo. First of all, Kosovo is a part of Serbia, and the longer that full recognition by EU nations and others is extended, the less chance that Kosovo will receive full recognition. Thaci and his gang of thugs are being exposed day by day and eventually they will self-destruct. Kosovo cannot survive without the help of the west and with each and every day the west sees Kosovo for what it really is: a criminal state. The desecration of Christian Serb churches, the killing of elderly and defensless Serbs and the constant harrassment of returning Serbs are now in full view for the world to see. Let us not forget Dick Marty's report on Albanian organ trafficking for which Taci was implicated. Serbs need only to stick to their guns and the Albanians will implode whole showing the world just how primitive and corrupt they truly are.

"but as long as we don't give it away, nobody can take Kosovo from us."

Keep on lying to Serbian people....! You/Serbia have nothing to give...you should know how Serbia LOST KOSOVO for good, how many people lost lives for Kosovo....

Oh God, do we have those broken record statements on a daily base? You want to join EU, so a) either fulfill those requirements or b) withdraw application. There is no different option, so spare us with your rivers of tears.

I noticed how our El Presidente has gone basically right up to the Kosovo boarder to say this, but would he be able to say this on the other side of the Kosovo boarder? And how does he plan on getting into Kosovo? He needs permission to do so.

You can say what you like Mr President, but whether it is true or not is another matter. Kosovo hasn't really been apart of Serbia since 1999. Lets just salvage the north and move on with our lives because I for one am sick to death of this whole Kosovo thing!

Serbia will not give it away, and the Albanians cannot take it away. So where are we with KiM - frozen. I don't think that Pristina can come up with anything that can compensate for serbia giving KiM away - they have nothing but drugs, and they can keep that for themselves.
(ecoman, 16 September 2012 13:12
There will be NO compensation at least not from Kosovo to Serbia maybe the other way around.
You can claim it everyday of the rest of your natural life, it does not mean you own it can use it can control it or can profit from it. The only thing Serbs can do is to make it more difficult for the Albanians, which has always been the goal from day one, none really mean or care about this Kosovo is Serbia crap. It is just an ethnic vendetta against the Albanians. You know it, the Albanians know it, and the whole world knows it.

Michael, your analogy is incorect. West Germany did recognize the German Democratic Republic in 1970. It even played a football match agains it durinc the World Cup in Munich in 1974. What they repeated like a mantra was that the regime of the GDR was opresive and that should the people of the GDR be given a chance they will choose reunification. Which they did after the fall of the Berlin Wall. 90% of the people of Kosovo do not want a reunification with Serbia. So the only way Serbia could achieve it is either to impose an ocupation 1989-1999 style and face fearce reisitence, or to commit an ethnic cleansing which would trigger a terrorist intifada lasting with decades. Is that the future Nikolic and friends want for Serbia?

what a joke

A good position of the president. Serbia has time, Kosovo not. West-Germany has repeated like a mantra that the united Germany will be again one day, and was speaking ever about the "brothers and sisters"...and: despite all jokes about this mantra it became true. Serbia should wait and speak about efforts to make the daily life easier for the SERBs in Kosovo, not for all people. If Serbia is representing the interests of its own people, it would be more than enough. By the way: Germany is the state of the Germans (this includes all other people of other origin), Serbia should see themselves as the state of the Serbs. There is in a German passport ONLY ONE nationality: German. Serbia should learn more in practical terms from other countries. This would be very important.

don't you find interesting the fact that the only one that speak badly about Kosova are ppl from the only two Balkan bankrupt states: Greece and Serbia.

I think you should spend your time in taking care of your misery and refine your begging strategies. You don't have knowledge and wisdom to run your countries efficiently, yet you think you are in position to lecture others. Do your homework that will take you about 20 years to rebuild your state as Sarcozy was saying.
(ben, 16 September 2012 14:47)

If Greece and Serbia were the only countries speaking badly about kosovo then you shouldn't have any problem getting recognised by the rest of the world,should you?The fact remains that despite all the threats and intimidation by Nato and EU on countries that haven't recognised kosovo, the province is still in limbo and will remain so unless Serbian politicians change their stance and sacrifice sovereignty for some delude EU membership.

Greece is in trouble but why don't you ask your fellow Albanians why they still remain in a bankrupt country and don't return to that powerhouse of the Balkans called Albania.

With no plan nor any clue of how to lead Serbia into the future, ring the ultranationalist bell. Get the juices flowing so people will not notice that they are actually worse off than the previous year.
I anticipate it will not be long before the EU loses interest in Serbia and starts to focus on all the surrounding countries including Kosovo.
The old saying of you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make them drink comes to mind.
Once the EU/US figures out that Serbia is not going to agree on a solution for Kosovo and focuses on developing Kosovo without Serbia's blessing the better for everyone. A lot of energy and resources have been wasted too long on Serbia, cut off the money, and let Serbia see how long they actually can survive on Russian handouts.

Love reading the K*-Albo comments here. So many attempting to convince Serbs that KiM is lost. LOL!!! Just wondering why so many come to this Serbian site if that were the case?

Obviously non have visited the north otherwise they would know Serbia has a strong grip. Diaspora K*-Albos talking rubbish.

BTW, the media attention of the organ harvesting witness was quite a lot compared to say, the last 50* recognitions of "Kosova"*, which were hardly mentioned.

* Assuming recognitions were real.

I for one am sick to death of this whole Kosovo thing!
(I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim, 16 September 2012 14:51)
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Capitulation is your middle name.
How sick to death do you think Serbs of Kosovo are? If it bothers you then don't come on here and discuss it.
The rest of us actually care.

njegos, 16 September 2012 17:59)
Quite the dreamer are we. There is alot of Kosovo this and Kosovo that in Serbian papers but that is it. There is not a huge explosion of info going on in the west. Serbia tries to keep the organ story alive but there is no substance to it. The big story last week of the "KLA witness" hardly made the back page of a few western papers. (It was so ludicrous no credible papers would carry it). There is a lot of things happening in the world and Kosovo and Serbia are just not on the top of the list. The west views independence of Kosovo as a done deal and there is not a lot of reason to keep bringing it up --old news. Serbia is playing a lot games with its people but they are doing it outside of Kosovo, the leaders are not foolish enough to try anything militarily so it is pretty much a non issue as far as non Serbs go.
Maybe you will eventually tire of it maybe you won't but the fact is you have zero chance of changing it.

LOST KOSOVO for good, how many people lost lives for Kosovo....
(EA, 16 September 2012 15:28)
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Dunno, has KLA kept figures?

Two weeks ago he said that he never will be predident of Kosova,today he says he is the president of Kosova.
Did he forgot to take his medications?
Meanwhile Peggy who lives conforable in Australia calls her compatriotes in Serbia to leave evil West and to join Russia.
Do as I say dont do as I do.

I`m astonished how serbian citizens fall for this bs for 13 years now , whenever serbia is in economic crisis and politicians have to hide their inability to improve the situation they throw the "kosovo issue" in the scene and boom everyone`s eye goes south towards kosovo .
Serbian politicians are pretty smart.

(Michael, 16 September 2012 14:53)

your analogy makes perfect sense ONLY if you replace Serbia with Albania.

If I was Albanian PM I would never recognize Kosova as Kosova is nothing more than the northern Albanian province that one day sooner or later will unite to motherland Albania.

FYI: Albanian parliament from 1912 to 1945 was regularly electing representatives from Kosova. It was the communists of dictator Hoxha that stopped that and the "democrats" of 90s never rectified this traitor act of Hoxha.

Leonidis: it's not that I'm happy of your tragedy but you are not in position (and for long time you will not be in postion) to lecture us.

Capitulation is your middle name.
How sick to death do you think Serbs of Kosovo are? If it bothers you then don't come on here and discuss it.
The rest of us actually care.
(Peggy, 16 September 2012 22:50)

Do you actually know what Serbia is like? The real Serbia?
Outside of Novi Sad and Belgrade, Serbia is a very poor country; many people struggle to get by and there many people without jobs, on top of all the other social issues Serbia has.
Take Kuršumlija for example, it is a very poor deprived area; yet when the President goes there he starts lecturing on about how "Kosovo is ours" instead of addressing the social issues which affect the people of Kuršumlija. Everyone just seems to be blinded by what else is going on in Serbia due to this obsession with Kosovo.

I aprreciate that the Serbs in North Kosovo are in need of help, but then again so are many other people across Serbia; yet the government seems to dedicate all their time and attention to Kosovo and thus ignoring the rest of the people who are in need of help. However I wouldn't expect an Aussie on the other side of the world like you to understand that.

So don't give me this nonsense that you care. You're just obsessed with Kosovo. You can't see the real picture.

The funny thing is the economic global crisis has started to hit the mighty China. This was bound to happen at some point.

Now that the mighty china has been hit, surely the end must be near???
(Ian, UK, 17 September 2012 12:37)

Indeed.With GDP increases grown at an annual average of 10% in the last decade (currently 7.5%),with a sovereign wealth fund worth $3 trillion and $3.8 trillion reserves and with a five-year plan (2011-15) aiming to invest $1.5tn (5% of GDP) in strategic new, mainly "green", industries, energy-saving and environmentally friendly technologies, biotechnology, advanced manufacturing, and alternative-fuel cars the Chinese leaders won't be able to sleep at night.

Comparing the above to Western countries you have ignorance, arrogance and narrow minded politicians who are as much a cause of your problems as anything else. Truly the Idiocracy has arrived.

more delusion. you will die not having seen Serbia's police in Prishtina again Mr Nikolic
(Nikolle, 16 September 2012 13:04)

Right on Nikolle.
Nikolic, including every single Serb on this planet earth knows that, but are just playing these games to convince their unborn children!
(Ardi Asllani, 16 September 2012 13:40)

The only thing we need to convince our born and unborn children of is to have faith in the unity of all people now and in the future, and the way to achieve that is by loving one another here and now.
What does that mean in everyday life? It means going beyond my little me and my little life by overlooking nationality, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religious belief or the lack thereof; it means loving our children whether they are "good" or "bad"; and it means treating other people the way you want them to treat you, regardless of how you think they are treating you. Truly, all the rest is as nothing.

(think again, 17 September 2012 07:08)

There is a world of difference between fantasy and reality and the time of the west is over whether you like it or not. NATO was supposed to be the largest and most powerful battle group in the world – in theory none could challenge it and survive. However, a group of cave dwellers have defeated NATO inclusive of the US and soon both will leave with tail between legs but try and sell you the idea how they have democratized Afghanistan, but the moment they leave the Taliban are back in charge. While the US has been defeated and sent packing from Iraq followed by debacles in North Africa. So much for NATO as it will not survive. NATO is nothing except a spent organization that will be dispensed with once the excuses are found.
Kosovo is unable to stand on its own but if your country wishes to have a free standing Kosovo which is separate from Serbia that’s fine by me, but your country will have to close down schools, hospitals, reduce pension benefits, social security payments, make enormous cut backs to future budgets so that the Albanians can have freedom and democracy. The EU is in trouble and the US is printing money.
Like Afghanistan you will leave Kosovo whether you like it or not – No money.

(sj, 17 September 2012 11:09)
Give it a break sj,you are just like the guy on the street corner wearing a robe and carrying a sign, the end is near.
It IS a different world now. But NATO is still the strongest, Afghanistan was a big mistake that the west will be paying for years to come. Russia could do nothing to control it and NATO was foolish to think they could.
NATO is going no where, for someone who claims to know economics you really have no clue about global dynamics. You feed off media reports and rush to claim them as predictions. Govts and countries have ups and downs and eventually rebound. Look at Russia on top in the 70's hit bottom in the 90's climbing again. But during this time when they could not feed their troops they never left the power stage and retained their veto ability in the UNSC. The west is not going to fall off into the sea. It is still going to be a major power.
As far as leaving Kosovo, there is a big differenc in it and the rest of the world such as Afghanistan, it is in the middle of their domain. They are there to stay, whether you and your buddies like it or not.
It is in China's interest to keep the other economies afloat as their very own existence depends on it, something you cannot conceive. China prosperity is due to a global market.
Maybe we could start a fund to send you back to school so you could actually learn about international business and maybe some civics courses.

I think you should spend your time in taking care of your misery and refine your begging strategies.
(ben, 16 September 2012 14:47)

HA! A K-Albo accusing others of "begging". Classic. Only on B92!

@ben:you are showing the "Serbian illness", looking back in the past with little unimportant details. OK, there is the "unsoveld Albanian question" how it is seen in some Western countries too, in 1998 and much earlier was the chance to solve all relevant questions for Serbia, to"sell" Kosovo" and to become very fast for this deal EU-member, but at the end there must be an exchange of people: Albanians are going "home" and Serbs too. The modern states are national states, a poor country like Serbia can NEVER be a kind of "multi-cultural" state, nobody has the money for all the schools, media, culture etc etc. All the countries from the West who are demanding this, would never do so. There are no textbooks in Turkish in Germany or Turkish-speaking civil servants in official affairs. A "Turkish flag-day" would never be accepted (but as fun they can wave in a stadium their flags, but the Turks/Arabs in Germany have the biggest German flags during sports events), its time to weak up for Serbia and to make their home-works, toput together the facts from all developed countries about basics like: what are the real rights of minorities if there are such rights, or: how the other countries are dealing with "demands" from abroad or, how other states are staying all together in key questions and mainly never are showing disputes during visits abroad or or or: good or wrong, my country

That's it. As long as Serbia does not recognize Kosovo's independence, legally can not be nobody else. I hope the day will come when the situation will be resolved on the International Court.

Truth be told, Kosovo post-1999 is a basket case, infected with all sorts of crime, and that's what drives the so-called economy. It's a pathetic, intolerant place, where extremist Muslims rule. I suppose the best pals are USA, who backed the crime and corruption, in order install their large military base there, Camp Bondsteel, on land expropriated from local farmers. A person has to do their own research to get to the truth. And, the truth is very telling, if one cares enough to track it down.

"Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija are Jews in Poland, Hungary ect. in 1938. "

oh dear Ari Gold, never one to overdramatize are you? point me to the gas chambers in Kosova, to the columns upon columns of Serb refugees. this is the life serbs lead in kosova, subsidies from 2 capitals and still getting to disrupt Kosova's development. you really have no idea what you're talking about. let me tell you the Kosova that you envision, one full of serbian knights, orthodox churches and mediaeval mentality. one you've been sold in serbian orthodox liturgy. this is the kosova that is reality, one with 90% albanian population who want nothing to do with you. now back to glorious Dushan tales and other fantasies about the empire of heaven. if i had to hazard a guess of your age based upon what what you write here, i'd say you're still a teenager

@think again:

Keep telling yourself that. It really shows your desperation.

(pss, 17 September 2012 12:14)

Brilliant and amusing comment.

The funny thing is the economic global crisis has started to hit the mighty China. This was bound to happen at some point.

Now that the mighty china has been hit, surely the end must be near???

Just in case Mr. Nikollic has not heard, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to keep a territory that your party tried to exterminate a whole ethnic group out of.
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Are you still peddling that BS? This is not what Serbs tried to do. All they tried to do is stop terror against their people there.

I have to disagree with you on that one. It is possible to keep the territory you ethnically clensed. You are doing it right now and Croatia has kept Krajina.

Ari: 'Either in a peaceful manner or by force, it don't(sic)matter'. Maybe not to you, but I imagine that the thousands on all sides who will likely be displaced, killed, raped, ethnically cleansed and seriously injured in another conflict may see it differently. I respect your view that Kosovo is Serbian land and you have a right to re-iterate that view as often as you like but the use of force will end in tears all round, it always does. I really cannot believe that you think that armed conflict is a serious option for Kosovo. The very best that Nikolic can achieve out of the current mess is autonomy for the North and even that looks unlikely at present. He made a very good point about jobs and therein lies the answer to many of the ills of the Balkans. When people have a job and don't have all day to sit around and look for someone to blame for their predicament, other issues tend to fade to the background. As for resources pouring in, that will depend on the price of oil and the likelihood of a return on investment. The irony is that many potential investors know that they will get a better return on their money if Serbia is in the EU with all the trade benefits that this brings (I do not advocate membership of the EU or the euro but simply point out the narrow way in which investors view these things).

"but as long as we don't give it away, nobody can take Kosovo from us."

No need to give it away you big clown, historically it was never really Serbian land. Your mentor S.Milosevich, saved you from that privilege & gave up on Kosova in 1999! Now, for all you fake a.. Serb hardliner wanna-be's, think about it for a minute, had any other part of Serbia-proper been attacked by NATO as your statements suggest, would have the Serbian government vacated the armed forces & civilian population of that region of Serbia & let it fall under occupation? No way. Slobodan. Milosevich vacated the Serbian forces from (Kosova) because he and every Serbian intellectual with a educational background knew that, historically Kosova was not Serbian land! You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, all you need to do is go and research your history and see what most of the world's renowned historians have to say about the subject! Most agree that the Serbs came into the Balkans around 790 as barbaric tribes, and that the people they found already situated in the area of Dardania or, modern-day Kosova were Albanian tribesman! These Albanian tribesman were under the direct control of the Roman empire. The Serb barbaric tribes had posed a threat to Rome itself, so Rome to keep the Serb barbaric threat at bay offered the Serbs lands outside of Rome-proper, which included, Dardania (Kosova). Many of these historians claim the the Albanian's are in fact Europe's most ancient people.

Joachim, the Soviet Union offered the Germans unification if West Germany left NATO. To prove they are sincere they actually pulled out of Austria. But here comes the geniousity of the Chancellor Adenauer. He was well aware that Germany too much of an exporting power to be neutral. It needed markets (without them its economy would collapse overnight). And it must not be allowed to rely on its own defence, becouse its economic necessities for a larger free market zone will colide with the neighbors desire from political independence and economic protection. So the unification could wait. NATO and the emerging Common Market (later EEC and EU) were essential for Germany. You are right when you say that the Treaty was signed with the Soviet Union and Poland. By that Treaty Germany recognized that East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia, hitheroto reffered as German lands under Polish and Soviet administration were lost forever.The Germans made that recognition not becouse they did not believe that those lands belonged to them, but because the demographic changes that had taken place made their returning to Germany possible only if a new large scale ethnic cleansing took place. So those lands, not the GDR are the German equivalent of Kosovo. Hnas Dietrich Genscher clearly stated the German objectives: FDG,GDR and Berlin. After 1999 a smart Serbian tactic would have been how to preserve the Union with Montenegro, formally or not integrate RS and get rid of Kosovo.

(Ned Taylor, 16 September 2012 21:49)

I know that war should not be on the cards at all. I know that Serbia deserves all of Kosovo i Metohija (under its sovereignty) and would not want to kick anyone out who stays inside their house and doesn't partake in any conflict. I am not calling for anyone's rape or murder ...

But it is the Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija who are being raped and murdered. It is not Serbia that is calling to directly rule over Albanian populated areas in Kosovo i Metohija but Albanians who are not even a real state wanting to rule over Serbs in North Kosovo, Strpce, Gracanica ect.

I am all over a compromise for the sake of peace despite what everyone feels they are entitled too. But are you even aware at what the Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija have to go through day in and day out?

Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija are Jews in Poland, Hungary ect. in 1938. And if Albs goal really is complete ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide from our holy land, then we should fight until one of us goes extinct.

am all over a compromise for the sake of peace despite what everyone feels they are entitled too. But are you even aware at what the Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija have to go through day in and day out?

Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija are Jews in Poland, Hungary ect. in 1938. And if Albs goal really is complete ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide from our holy land, then we should fight until one of us goes extinct.
(Ari Gold, 17 September 2012 09:33)
Go back and read all the comments from less than a year ago when you started to try and parade the poor serbs around the world. Where brags were made as to how the Serbs in the north had a hundred times better life than Albanians and that Pristina had zero control over the north.
of course there have always been the ones who wanted to paint the picture of serbs living behind barbed wire etc. but alas no one could ever find those communities.
Also have not heard of a single rape listed here in B92, how is it occuring daily and you are the only one who knows about it.

@nik: You dont know the facts: due to the "West"-German constituninal law it was clear that the West-German governments (all of them) were obliged to work for the unification of Germans in one state. So the West-German parliament has only ratified the treaties with USSR etc together with a special additional letter, confirming this. West-Germany said ONLY in all treaties it will not change the actual situation by the use of force. But it NEVER has recognized the citizenship of East. All East Germans (what many pensioners did during her visits to the West)could get within some minutes a West-German passport. The West-German Justice was investigating "crimes" at the boarder by East German soldiers. The perfect West German bureaucracy was in practise taking all steps to show that Est germany is a part of Germany. What was so easy for Serbia to finalize with Kosovo (Cathasdre or joint boarder management) was after years and years never agreed between the two german states. This was the reason that owners of property on the Eastern side in the West could never get one penny during all the years. This is one aspect Serbia dont understand: property is the key of all real interests. Therefore the West is interested in telecommunication and energy. If the West could find an East German ship in a Dutch port etc, they applied to a Dutch judge to block the ship for other property claims. But I guess that Serbia has not the clever civil servants and not the knowledge in detail.

Keep telling yourself that. It really shows your desperation.
(NATO observer, 16 September 2012 21:07)
Its easy to keep telling myself that as it is true. As far as desperation, I think that is limited to your side. My side is for the people of Kosovo, I have no grudge against the Serbs as I am not Albanian. I really do not care if North Kosovo is given special status or separated completely. But the one thing I do know is that Albanians in Kosovo can never live under Serbian rule. There is NO change in attitudes. So if that is as a separate state or UN protectorate is ok for me but you have to discuss that with the people there.
Instead of a NATO observer, I am a NATO member and my view is that it is and will continue to be the responsibility of NATO to prohibit Serbian incursion into Kosovo, that mandate will not change even with the abolishment of 1244.

Dear President till the moment you only declare the Kosovo is yours but don’t act to prove it, we agree with you. We understand that you need such declarations for your domestic audience. You as the most of clever Serbs politician are in the right direction, too much speaking and no action for Kosova.

So don't give me this nonsense that you care. You're just obsessed with Kosovo. You can't see the real picture.
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 17 September 2012 11:00)
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Oh I see the real picture.
Serbs is Kosovo are in a very desperate situation, much more desperate than Serbs anywhere in Serbia so they must be a priority.

If you live in Serbia and are safe there why don't you spare a thought for the poor intimidated, terrorized Serbs in Kosovo? Are you that selfish?
There will always be people in need of help in any country but we must get our priorities straight here.
If you disagree, you are more than welcome to write to the president and tell him how unimpressed you are.

As always Nikolic is playing the populist. Serbia lost its right to govern over Kosovo when Milosevic begun his campaign of ethnic cleansing. What's more is that Kosovo, like the other states of ex-Yugoslavia, enjoys the status of autonomy. Yes it is true that Albanians played the same card of ethnic cleansing during the early 80's but Milosevic' act of an eye for an eye destroyed his possible claim to righteousness. The majority of Kosovars do not want to be part of Serbia anymore. Most of the international community has recognised that Kosovo will need to be separated from Serbia in order to preserve peace and stability in the region, only Serbia has done so, yet.
On the issue of creating jobs in this country I can only say that in order to attract investment the government might want to rethink their tax policy. 25%, along with 20% VAT is too much, especially when neighbouring countries offer better deals. They might also try to rethink the bureaucratic red tape one has to go through to set up business and encourage innovation.

@ Peggy:

Oh really? The Serbs just tried to stop the terror against their people? Is that really all they tried doing? So killing innocent women and children is a way to stop terror or to create it? Or is it a means of justification in the Slavic handbook of combat? Let me guess...you're going to give me that slavic brother propoganda and tell me that they were all lies and that the KLA killed their own family members just to make it seem like the Serbs were doing it. If it had not happened to loved ones and actual family members that I KNOW OF...then MAYBE I'd be foolish enough to swollow your BS. All I know is that Kosova is free and is currently ruled by its own people. You were unfairly given that soil because of European ignorance and ever since then we've seen nothing but problems because of it. Nikollic and all of your extremist nationalist politicians need to be replaced so that everyone in the Balkans can move on. The balkans will never be done with wars if the same Milosevic minded politicians blabber on about what they wont and will give up. Guess what???? NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU SAY OR THINK NIKOLLIC...The people of Serbia should start worrying about how they're going to feed their children and make any sort of future instead of worrying about a land that never should have belonged to them in the first place.

Oh really? The Serbs just tried to stop the terror against their people?
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Yes Ben, that is exactly what happened. Unfortunately innocent people get caught up in war especially when your cowards (KLA) don't mind hiding under their mothers' skirts.
There is no denying that your lot has terrorized our people for decades before Milosevic said ENOUGH.
Unfortunately he didn't go about it in a clever way.

LOL @ the Sips in this comment section.

@ Nik: Your facts are wrong!
March 1952, the Soviet Union offered a peace treaty for Germany to the US, UK and France, under which Germany as a politically NEUTRAL state would have been re-united. The allied forces, along with the liberal-conservative German government (CDU/CSU/FDP) refused this offer and insisted for Germany to stay submitted to US agenda.
End of the 70’s, about 70% of Germany’s key industries was owned by US capital.
So far for Germany’s ardent desire for re-unification.
What you present as West Germany’s formal recognition of the GDR is probably the so-called basic treaty (Grundlagenvertrag) which was signed in December 1972. This contract was preceded by contracts between West Germany and the Soviet Union (December 1970), Poland (September 1971) and followed by a contract with the CSSR (December 1973).
This contract with the GDR is a recognition without being a full recognition ( “staatsrectliche Anerkennung” instead of “völkerrechtliche Anerkennung”) since this was prohibited by West German constitution.
So far about Germany and the analogy with the two Germanies.
Your threatening “fearce resistance” (LOL) and “terrorist intifada” in case Serbia wants to maintain its sovereignty over its southern province. This is what led to the war!
Better think about peaceful relations, as they exist between China and Hong Kong or in South Tyrol.
Would make a better life for everybody!

A person has to do their own research to get to the truth. And, the truth is very telling, if one cares enough to track it down.
(TruthTeller, 17 September 2012 04:42)
Your last statement is true as they cannot depend on getting it from you.

@Nik again: part1
Getting a bit fed up putting facts straight concerning Germany, in a threat with a different subject.
But let me try it again:
Let me be clear about one thing first: I’m German, (for all generations we’ve been able to research about), born and raised in West-Germany and had the opportunity to experience this “great model of western democracy” until 1983, when I’ve left Germany for good.
Dies land ist unser Land - F.J. Degenhardt
During a major part of its history (contrary to Serbia) Germany has been a loose, con-federal association, of multiple territorial states, regrouped in the “Holy Roman Germanic Empire”. It was a long road to the creation of the German Empire in 1871, and even longer, to the actual Federal republic of Germany, which emerged only in 1945.
So you tell me that Germany’s (or rather the allied forces) decision was about “political independence and economic protection”?
You’re all wrong again!

@ Nik again: part2

Germany at this time (Today?) had no political independence. Even De Gaulle qualified Germany as the US Trojan horse.
Regarding economic independence, as a consequence of this badly advised choice to refuse re-unification and neutrality, end of the 70’s about 70% of German key industry were owned by US capital. So, how about achievement of economical independence?
NATO as auxiliary force of US hegemony pre-disposed German territory as the future battle ground of an East-West war to come. Cool 
During this time, we lived the cold war, even in our classrooms. One day to the other, a professor, supposed to be sympathetic to communist ideas, only because he participated in a demonstration, was no longer there. Interdicted of exercise of his profession, as thousands of others…
Our newspaper was told that it will be censored if we don’t censor ourselves, etc.

@ Nik again: part3

Things got worse when people got murdered (Rudi Dutschke, Benno Ohnesorg, etc.) and the extra- parliamentary opposition, split into two camps. Proxy groups like the fascists Turkish “Grey Wolves” helped spread terror. Ok, please spare me the rest of this story…
So much about democracy, liberty of opinion and human rights…
No, East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia are not to compare to the southern Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija but rather to Serbian Kraijna! And, believe me or not, associations of refugees from those regions are still considered as a thorn in the side of “official” German foreign policies.
Cheers

BTW, the media attention of the organ harvesting witness was quite a lot
(Zoran, 16 September 2012 22:03)

the quantity of media attention is not admissible evidence in any court of law, dear, including even the Serbia's courts :)

Indeed.With GDP increases grown at an annual average of 10% in the last decade (currently 7.5%),with a sovereign wealth fund worth $3 trillion and $3.8 trillion reserves and with a five-year plan (2011-15) aiming to invest $1.5tn (5% of GDP) in strategic new, mainly "green", industries, energy-saving and environmentally friendly technologies, biotechnology, advanced manufacturing, and alternative-fuel cars the Chinese leaders won't be able to sleep at night.

Comparing the above to Western countries you have ignorance, arrogance and narrow minded politicians who are as much a cause of your problems as anything else. Truly the Idiocracy has arrived.
(Leonidas, 17 September 2012 13:54)

Dear Leonidas, you just forgot to also mention the average Chinese who lives in poverty compared to the average Greek, let alone the other Western countries which are keeping Greece afloat. Indeed, because of all of this, that's why we see millions of people trying to emigrate to the Chinese paradise :)

It's funny that one of Milosevic's right hand man and now leader of his old party is elected president of Serbia. This tells a whole lot about a country that claims to be "On the European path". How pathetic. It just shows exactly how ignorant and full of it this country called "Serbia" is. Just in case Mr. Nikollic has not heard, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to keep a territory that your party tried to exterminate a whole ethnic group out of. No kidding they're going to retaliate and demand a brighter future without you! KosovA should not have been given to the Serbs in the first place because of the prior era's European ignorance, and maybe this mess never would have happened in the first place.

That's it. As long as Serbia does not recognize Kosovo's independence, legally can not be nobody else. I hope the day will come when the situation will be resolved on the International Court.
(Viki, 17 September 2012 18:29
Viki, Serbian or Albanian, really cannot tell if comment is tongue in cheek, or if you are that naive.
Serbia, will not risk taking anything else to do with Kosovo to the ICJ after their total humiliation 2 years ago.
True Serbia still loudly claims Kosovo as it functions totally independent of Serbia, and you know where these proclamations are coming from, outside of Kosovo not within.

more delusion. you will die not having seen Serbia's police in Prishtina again Mr Nikolic

Serbia will not give it away, and the Albanians cannot take it away. So where are we with KiM - frozen. I don't think that Pristina can come up with anything that can compensate for serbia giving KiM away - they have nothing but drugs, and they can keep that for themselves.
(ecoman, 16 September 2012 13:12
There will be NO compensation at least not from Kosovo to Serbia maybe the other way around.
You can claim it everyday of the rest of your natural life, it does not mean you own it can use it can control it or can profit from it. The only thing Serbs can do is to make it more difficult for the Albanians, which has always been the goal from day one, none really mean or care about this Kosovo is Serbia crap. It is just an ethnic vendetta against the Albanians. You know it, the Albanians know it, and the whole world knows it.

more delusion. you will die not having seen Serbia's police in Prishtina again Mr Nikolic
(Nikolle, 16 September 2012 13:04)

Right on Nikolle.
Nikolic, including every single Serb on this planet earth knows that, but are just playing these games to convince their unborn children!

Serbia will not give it away, and the Albanians cannot take it away. So where are we with KiM - frozen. I don't think that Pristina can come up with anything that can compensate for serbia giving KiM away - they have nothing but drugs, and they can keep that for themselves.

German daily posturing and threats on Serbia regarding kosovo's recognition -as a condition of EU entry-is a clear sign of how desperate they've become.

It's kosovo that needs recognition not Serbia.There is a large majority of the world's countries which do not recognise this "independent" Kosovo, an Islamic NATO puppet-state installed in another country's province and they never will.Why should Serbian politicians trade their territory in return for a fictitious membership of a club which is bankrupt financially,politically and morally?

Serbia should stick to its guns,history repeat itself and Balkan people have very good memories.

You better think about your bankrupt Serbia chetnick-President Nikolic.

"but as long as we don't give it away, nobody can take Kosovo from us."

Keep on lying to Serbian people....! You/Serbia have nothing to give...you should know how Serbia LOST KOSOVO for good, how many people lost lives for Kosovo....

Oh God, do we have those broken record statements on a daily base? You want to join EU, so a) either fulfill those requirements or b) withdraw application. There is no different option, so spare us with your rivers of tears.

Again if he was lying we wouldn't have Germany pressuring Serbia to legitimize the occupation. We also would have the insecure hyenas who come on here day after day because they want us ever so much to 'recognize the reality' and repeat the same boring b.s. over and over trying to convince themselves.

Kosovo i Metohija is Orthodox Christian land and it is only under temporary occupation that will eventually be lifted either in a peaceful manner or by force, it don't matter.

(Leonidas, 16 September 2012 14:05)

don't you find interesting the fact that the only one that speak badly about Kosova are ppl from the only two Balkan bankrupt states: Greece and Serbia.

I think you should spend your time in taking care of your misery and refine your begging strategies. You don't have knowledge and wisdom to run your countries efficiently, yet you think you are in position to lecture others. Do your homework that will take you about 20 years to rebuild your state as Sarcozy was saying.

It is good to know that the "no alternative to EU" initiative has flopped (as expected). I like what I'm hearing from this government, it hits the nail right on the head but soon I will want to see actions and results. Lock up the criminals and lets see the investments pouring in.

As for KiM, anyone who attempts to give it away will have to deal with these people. LOL! Check -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrc5eSVprds

I noticed how our El Presidente has gone basically right up to the Kosovo boarder to say this, but would he be able to say this on the other side of the Kosovo boarder? And how does he plan on getting into Kosovo? He needs permission to do so.

You can say what you like Mr President, but whether it is true or not is another matter. Kosovo hasn't really been apart of Serbia since 1999. Lets just salvage the north and move on with our lives because I for one am sick to death of this whole Kosovo thing!

With no plan nor any clue of how to lead Serbia into the future, ring the ultranationalist bell. Get the juices flowing so people will not notice that they are actually worse off than the previous year.
I anticipate it will not be long before the EU loses interest in Serbia and starts to focus on all the surrounding countries including Kosovo.
The old saying of you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make them drink comes to mind.
Once the EU/US figures out that Serbia is not going to agree on a solution for Kosovo and focuses on developing Kosovo without Serbia's blessing the better for everyone. A lot of energy and resources have been wasted too long on Serbia, cut off the money, and let Serbia see how long they actually can survive on Russian handouts.

njegos, 16 September 2012 17:59)
Quite the dreamer are we. There is alot of Kosovo this and Kosovo that in Serbian papers but that is it. There is not a huge explosion of info going on in the west. Serbia tries to keep the organ story alive but there is no substance to it. The big story last week of the "KLA witness" hardly made the back page of a few western papers. (It was so ludicrous no credible papers would carry it). There is a lot of things happening in the world and Kosovo and Serbia are just not on the top of the list. The west views independence of Kosovo as a done deal and there is not a lot of reason to keep bringing it up --old news. Serbia is playing a lot games with its people but they are doing it outside of Kosovo, the leaders are not foolish enough to try anything militarily so it is pretty much a non issue as far as non Serbs go.
Maybe you will eventually tire of it maybe you won't but the fact is you have zero chance of changing it.

what a joke

Bravo for president Nikolic! Serbia has been attacked and raped by several of their neighbours and NATO for the past 20 years.
Unprecedented international-level crime has been committed in occupying Kosovo and covering up genocide against Serbs (organ trafficking in Kosovo, "Storm" campaign of ethnic cleansing in Croatia, mass murders of Serbian civilians in Bosnia during 1990s civil war).
It will take a long time and hard work to undo the damage that's been committed, but over the millennia, Serbia has been destroyed and occupied by many (Turks, Germans) and Serbs have always prevailed over their enemies.

Bill Gates' money is mine as long as I think it's mine.

Ben - You talk of misery and bankruptcy of Serbia and suggest that the Serbs should take care of their own problems and not worry about Kosovo. First of all, Kosovo is a part of Serbia, and the longer that full recognition by EU nations and others is extended, the less chance that Kosovo will receive full recognition. Thaci and his gang of thugs are being exposed day by day and eventually they will self-destruct. Kosovo cannot survive without the help of the west and with each and every day the west sees Kosovo for what it really is: a criminal state. The desecration of Christian Serb churches, the killing of elderly and defensless Serbs and the constant harrassment of returning Serbs are now in full view for the world to see. Let us not forget Dick Marty's report on Albanian organ trafficking for which Taci was implicated. Serbs need only to stick to their guns and the Albanians will implode whole showing the world just how primitive and corrupt they truly are.

don't you find interesting the fact that the only one that speak badly about Kosova are ppl from the only two Balkan bankrupt states: Greece and Serbia.

I think you should spend your time in taking care of your misery and refine your begging strategies. You don't have knowledge and wisdom to run your countries efficiently, yet you think you are in position to lecture others. Do your homework that will take you about 20 years to rebuild your state as Sarcozy was saying.
(ben, 16 September 2012 14:47)

If Greece and Serbia were the only countries speaking badly about kosovo then you shouldn't have any problem getting recognised by the rest of the world,should you?The fact remains that despite all the threats and intimidation by Nato and EU on countries that haven't recognised kosovo, the province is still in limbo and will remain so unless Serbian politicians change their stance and sacrifice sovereignty for some delude EU membership.

Greece is in trouble but why don't you ask your fellow Albanians why they still remain in a bankrupt country and don't return to that powerhouse of the Balkans called Albania.

A good position of the president. Serbia has time, Kosovo not. West-Germany has repeated like a mantra that the united Germany will be again one day, and was speaking ever about the "brothers and sisters"...and: despite all jokes about this mantra it became true. Serbia should wait and speak about efforts to make the daily life easier for the SERBs in Kosovo, not for all people. If Serbia is representing the interests of its own people, it would be more than enough. By the way: Germany is the state of the Germans (this includes all other people of other origin), Serbia should see themselves as the state of the Serbs. There is in a German passport ONLY ONE nationality: German. Serbia should learn more in practical terms from other countries. This would be very important.

I`m astonished how serbian citizens fall for this bs for 13 years now , whenever serbia is in economic crisis and politicians have to hide their inability to improve the situation they throw the "kosovo issue" in the scene and boom everyone`s eye goes south towards kosovo .
Serbian politicians are pretty smart.

Love reading the K*-Albo comments here. So many attempting to convince Serbs that KiM is lost. LOL!!! Just wondering why so many come to this Serbian site if that were the case?

Obviously non have visited the north otherwise they would know Serbia has a strong grip. Diaspora K*-Albos talking rubbish.

BTW, the media attention of the organ harvesting witness was quite a lot compared to say, the last 50* recognitions of "Kosova"*, which were hardly mentioned.

* Assuming recognitions were real.

Dear President till the moment you only declare the Kosovo is yours but don’t act to prove it, we agree with you. We understand that you need such declarations for your domestic audience. You as the most of clever Serbs politician are in the right direction, too much speaking and no action for Kosova.

LOST KOSOVO for good, how many people lost lives for Kosovo....
(EA, 16 September 2012 15:28)
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Dunno, has KLA kept figures?

(pss, 17 September 2012 12:14)

Brilliant and amusing comment.

The funny thing is the economic global crisis has started to hit the mighty China. This was bound to happen at some point.

Now that the mighty china has been hit, surely the end must be near???

I for one am sick to death of this whole Kosovo thing!
(I am a Serb, a Croat, and a Muslim, 16 September 2012 14:51)
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Capitulation is your middle name.
How sick to death do you think Serbs of Kosovo are? If it bothers you then don't come on here and discuss it.
The rest of us actually care.

Two weeks ago he said that he never will be predident of Kosova,today he says he is the president of Kosova.
Did he forgot to take his medications?
Meanwhile Peggy who lives conforable in Australia calls her compatriotes in Serbia to leave evil West and to join Russia.
Do as I say dont do as I do.

(sj, 17 September 2012 11:09)
Give it a break sj,you are just like the guy on the street corner wearing a robe and carrying a sign, the end is near.
It IS a different world now. But NATO is still the strongest, Afghanistan was a big mistake that the west will be paying for years to come. Russia could do nothing to control it and NATO was foolish to think they could.
NATO is going no where, for someone who claims to know economics you really have no clue about global dynamics. You feed off media reports and rush to claim them as predictions. Govts and countries have ups and downs and eventually rebound. Look at Russia on top in the 70's hit bottom in the 90's climbing again. But during this time when they could not feed their troops they never left the power stage and retained their veto ability in the UNSC. The west is not going to fall off into the sea. It is still going to be a major power.
As far as leaving Kosovo, there is a big differenc in it and the rest of the world such as Afghanistan, it is in the middle of their domain. They are there to stay, whether you and your buddies like it or not.
It is in China's interest to keep the other economies afloat as their very own existence depends on it, something you cannot conceive. China prosperity is due to a global market.
Maybe we could start a fund to send you back to school so you could actually learn about international business and maybe some civics courses.

(Michael, 16 September 2012 14:53)

your analogy makes perfect sense ONLY if you replace Serbia with Albania.

If I was Albanian PM I would never recognize Kosova as Kosova is nothing more than the northern Albanian province that one day sooner or later will unite to motherland Albania.

FYI: Albanian parliament from 1912 to 1945 was regularly electing representatives from Kosova. It was the communists of dictator Hoxha that stopped that and the "democrats" of 90s never rectified this traitor act of Hoxha.

Leonidis: it's not that I'm happy of your tragedy but you are not in position (and for long time you will not be in postion) to lecture us.

(think again, 17 September 2012 07:08)

There is a world of difference between fantasy and reality and the time of the west is over whether you like it or not. NATO was supposed to be the largest and most powerful battle group in the world – in theory none could challenge it and survive. However, a group of cave dwellers have defeated NATO inclusive of the US and soon both will leave with tail between legs but try and sell you the idea how they have democratized Afghanistan, but the moment they leave the Taliban are back in charge. While the US has been defeated and sent packing from Iraq followed by debacles in North Africa. So much for NATO as it will not survive. NATO is nothing except a spent organization that will be dispensed with once the excuses are found.
Kosovo is unable to stand on its own but if your country wishes to have a free standing Kosovo which is separate from Serbia that’s fine by me, but your country will have to close down schools, hospitals, reduce pension benefits, social security payments, make enormous cut backs to future budgets so that the Albanians can have freedom and democracy. The EU is in trouble and the US is printing money.
Like Afghanistan you will leave Kosovo whether you like it or not – No money.

Michael, your analogy is incorect. West Germany did recognize the German Democratic Republic in 1970. It even played a football match agains it durinc the World Cup in Munich in 1974. What they repeated like a mantra was that the regime of the GDR was opresive and that should the people of the GDR be given a chance they will choose reunification. Which they did after the fall of the Berlin Wall. 90% of the people of Kosovo do not want a reunification with Serbia. So the only way Serbia could achieve it is either to impose an ocupation 1989-1999 style and face fearce reisitence, or to commit an ethnic cleansing which would trigger a terrorist intifada lasting with decades. Is that the future Nikolic and friends want for Serbia?

@think again:

Keep telling yourself that. It really shows your desperation.

@ Nik: Your facts are wrong!
March 1952, the Soviet Union offered a peace treaty for Germany to the US, UK and France, under which Germany as a politically NEUTRAL state would have been re-united. The allied forces, along with the liberal-conservative German government (CDU/CSU/FDP) refused this offer and insisted for Germany to stay submitted to US agenda.
End of the 70’s, about 70% of Germany’s key industries was owned by US capital.
So far for Germany’s ardent desire for re-unification.
What you present as West Germany’s formal recognition of the GDR is probably the so-called basic treaty (Grundlagenvertrag) which was signed in December 1972. This contract was preceded by contracts between West Germany and the Soviet Union (December 1970), Poland (September 1971) and followed by a contract with the CSSR (December 1973).
This contract with the GDR is a recognition without being a full recognition ( “staatsrectliche Anerkennung” instead of “völkerrechtliche Anerkennung”) since this was prohibited by West German constitution.
So far about Germany and the analogy with the two Germanies.
Your threatening “fearce resistance” (LOL) and “terrorist intifada” in case Serbia wants to maintain its sovereignty over its southern province. This is what led to the war!
Better think about peaceful relations, as they exist between China and Hong Kong or in South Tyrol.
Would make a better life for everybody!

Capitulation is your middle name.
How sick to death do you think Serbs of Kosovo are? If it bothers you then don't come on here and discuss it.
The rest of us actually care.
(Peggy, 16 September 2012 22:50)

Do you actually know what Serbia is like? The real Serbia?
Outside of Novi Sad and Belgrade, Serbia is a very poor country; many people struggle to get by and there many people without jobs, on top of all the other social issues Serbia has.
Take Kuršumlija for example, it is a very poor deprived area; yet when the President goes there he starts lecturing on about how "Kosovo is ours" instead of addressing the social issues which affect the people of Kuršumlija. Everyone just seems to be blinded by what else is going on in Serbia due to this obsession with Kosovo.

I aprreciate that the Serbs in North Kosovo are in need of help, but then again so are many other people across Serbia; yet the government seems to dedicate all their time and attention to Kosovo and thus ignoring the rest of the people who are in need of help. However I wouldn't expect an Aussie on the other side of the world like you to understand that.

So don't give me this nonsense that you care. You're just obsessed with Kosovo. You can't see the real picture.

more delusion. you will die not having seen Serbia's police in Prishtina again Mr Nikolic
(Nikolle, 16 September 2012 13:04)

Right on Nikolle.
Nikolic, including every single Serb on this planet earth knows that, but are just playing these games to convince their unborn children!
(Ardi Asllani, 16 September 2012 13:40)

The only thing we need to convince our born and unborn children of is to have faith in the unity of all people now and in the future, and the way to achieve that is by loving one another here and now.
What does that mean in everyday life? It means going beyond my little me and my little life by overlooking nationality, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religious belief or the lack thereof; it means loving our children whether they are "good" or "bad"; and it means treating other people the way you want them to treat you, regardless of how you think they are treating you. Truly, all the rest is as nothing.

Ari: 'Either in a peaceful manner or by force, it don't(sic)matter'. Maybe not to you, but I imagine that the thousands on all sides who will likely be displaced, killed, raped, ethnically cleansed and seriously injured in another conflict may see it differently. I respect your view that Kosovo is Serbian land and you have a right to re-iterate that view as often as you like but the use of force will end in tears all round, it always does. I really cannot believe that you think that armed conflict is a serious option for Kosovo. The very best that Nikolic can achieve out of the current mess is autonomy for the North and even that looks unlikely at present. He made a very good point about jobs and therein lies the answer to many of the ills of the Balkans. When people have a job and don't have all day to sit around and look for someone to blame for their predicament, other issues tend to fade to the background. As for resources pouring in, that will depend on the price of oil and the likelihood of a return on investment. The irony is that many potential investors know that they will get a better return on their money if Serbia is in the EU with all the trade benefits that this brings (I do not advocate membership of the EU or the euro but simply point out the narrow way in which investors view these things).

"but as long as we don't give it away, nobody can take Kosovo from us."

No need to give it away you big clown, historically it was never really Serbian land. Your mentor S.Milosevich, saved you from that privilege & gave up on Kosova in 1999! Now, for all you fake a.. Serb hardliner wanna-be's, think about it for a minute, had any other part of Serbia-proper been attacked by NATO as your statements suggest, would have the Serbian government vacated the armed forces & civilian population of that region of Serbia & let it fall under occupation? No way. Slobodan. Milosevich vacated the Serbian forces from (Kosova) because he and every Serbian intellectual with a educational background knew that, historically Kosova was not Serbian land! You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, all you need to do is go and research your history and see what most of the world's renowned historians have to say about the subject! Most agree that the Serbs came into the Balkans around 790 as barbaric tribes, and that the people they found already situated in the area of Dardania or, modern-day Kosova were Albanian tribesman! These Albanian tribesman were under the direct control of the Roman empire. The Serb barbaric tribes had posed a threat to Rome itself, so Rome to keep the Serb barbaric threat at bay offered the Serbs lands outside of Rome-proper, which included, Dardania (Kosova). Many of these historians claim the the Albanian's are in fact Europe's most ancient people.

(Ned Taylor, 16 September 2012 21:49)

I know that war should not be on the cards at all. I know that Serbia deserves all of Kosovo i Metohija (under its sovereignty) and would not want to kick anyone out who stays inside their house and doesn't partake in any conflict. I am not calling for anyone's rape or murder ...

But it is the Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija who are being raped and murdered. It is not Serbia that is calling to directly rule over Albanian populated areas in Kosovo i Metohija but Albanians who are not even a real state wanting to rule over Serbs in North Kosovo, Strpce, Gracanica ect.

I am all over a compromise for the sake of peace despite what everyone feels they are entitled too. But are you even aware at what the Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija have to go through day in and day out?

Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija are Jews in Poland, Hungary ect. in 1938. And if Albs goal really is complete ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide from our holy land, then we should fight until one of us goes extinct.

I think you should spend your time in taking care of your misery and refine your begging strategies.
(ben, 16 September 2012 14:47)

HA! A K-Albo accusing others of "begging". Classic. Only on B92!

As always Nikolic is playing the populist. Serbia lost its right to govern over Kosovo when Milosevic begun his campaign of ethnic cleansing. What's more is that Kosovo, like the other states of ex-Yugoslavia, enjoys the status of autonomy. Yes it is true that Albanians played the same card of ethnic cleansing during the early 80's but Milosevic' act of an eye for an eye destroyed his possible claim to righteousness. The majority of Kosovars do not want to be part of Serbia anymore. Most of the international community has recognised that Kosovo will need to be separated from Serbia in order to preserve peace and stability in the region, only Serbia has done so, yet.
On the issue of creating jobs in this country I can only say that in order to attract investment the government might want to rethink their tax policy. 25%, along with 20% VAT is too much, especially when neighbouring countries offer better deals. They might also try to rethink the bureaucratic red tape one has to go through to set up business and encourage innovation.

"Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija are Jews in Poland, Hungary ect. in 1938. "

oh dear Ari Gold, never one to overdramatize are you? point me to the gas chambers in Kosova, to the columns upon columns of Serb refugees. this is the life serbs lead in kosova, subsidies from 2 capitals and still getting to disrupt Kosova's development. you really have no idea what you're talking about. let me tell you the Kosova that you envision, one full of serbian knights, orthodox churches and mediaeval mentality. one you've been sold in serbian orthodox liturgy. this is the kosova that is reality, one with 90% albanian population who want nothing to do with you. now back to glorious Dushan tales and other fantasies about the empire of heaven. if i had to hazard a guess of your age based upon what what you write here, i'd say you're still a teenager

The funny thing is the economic global crisis has started to hit the mighty China. This was bound to happen at some point.

Now that the mighty china has been hit, surely the end must be near???
(Ian, UK, 17 September 2012 12:37)

Indeed.With GDP increases grown at an annual average of 10% in the last decade (currently 7.5%),with a sovereign wealth fund worth $3 trillion and $3.8 trillion reserves and with a five-year plan (2011-15) aiming to invest $1.5tn (5% of GDP) in strategic new, mainly "green", industries, energy-saving and environmentally friendly technologies, biotechnology, advanced manufacturing, and alternative-fuel cars the Chinese leaders won't be able to sleep at night.

Comparing the above to Western countries you have ignorance, arrogance and narrow minded politicians who are as much a cause of your problems as anything else. Truly the Idiocracy has arrived.

It's funny that one of Milosevic's right hand man and now leader of his old party is elected president of Serbia. This tells a whole lot about a country that claims to be "On the European path". How pathetic. It just shows exactly how ignorant and full of it this country called "Serbia" is. Just in case Mr. Nikollic has not heard, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to keep a territory that your party tried to exterminate a whole ethnic group out of. No kidding they're going to retaliate and demand a brighter future without you! KosovA should not have been given to the Serbs in the first place because of the prior era's European ignorance, and maybe this mess never would have happened in the first place.

That's it. As long as Serbia does not recognize Kosovo's independence, legally can not be nobody else. I hope the day will come when the situation will be resolved on the International Court.
(Viki, 17 September 2012 18:29
Viki, Serbian or Albanian, really cannot tell if comment is tongue in cheek, or if you are that naive.
Serbia, will not risk taking anything else to do with Kosovo to the ICJ after their total humiliation 2 years ago.
True Serbia still loudly claims Kosovo as it functions totally independent of Serbia, and you know where these proclamations are coming from, outside of Kosovo not within.

@ Peggy:

Oh really? The Serbs just tried to stop the terror against their people? Is that really all they tried doing? So killing innocent women and children is a way to stop terror or to create it? Or is it a means of justification in the Slavic handbook of combat? Let me guess...you're going to give me that slavic brother propoganda and tell me that they were all lies and that the KLA killed their own family members just to make it seem like the Serbs were doing it. If it had not happened to loved ones and actual family members that I KNOW OF...then MAYBE I'd be foolish enough to swollow your BS. All I know is that Kosova is free and is currently ruled by its own people. You were unfairly given that soil because of European ignorance and ever since then we've seen nothing but problems because of it. Nikollic and all of your extremist nationalist politicians need to be replaced so that everyone in the Balkans can move on. The balkans will never be done with wars if the same Milosevic minded politicians blabber on about what they wont and will give up. Guess what???? NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU SAY OR THINK NIKOLLIC...The people of Serbia should start worrying about how they're going to feed their children and make any sort of future instead of worrying about a land that never should have belonged to them in the first place.

Keep telling yourself that. It really shows your desperation.
(NATO observer, 16 September 2012 21:07)
Its easy to keep telling myself that as it is true. As far as desperation, I think that is limited to your side. My side is for the people of Kosovo, I have no grudge against the Serbs as I am not Albanian. I really do not care if North Kosovo is given special status or separated completely. But the one thing I do know is that Albanians in Kosovo can never live under Serbian rule. There is NO change in attitudes. So if that is as a separate state or UN protectorate is ok for me but you have to discuss that with the people there.
Instead of a NATO observer, I am a NATO member and my view is that it is and will continue to be the responsibility of NATO to prohibit Serbian incursion into Kosovo, that mandate will not change even with the abolishment of 1244.

am all over a compromise for the sake of peace despite what everyone feels they are entitled too. But are you even aware at what the Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija have to go through day in and day out?

Serbs in Kosovo i Metohija are Jews in Poland, Hungary ect. in 1938. And if Albs goal really is complete ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide from our holy land, then we should fight until one of us goes extinct.
(Ari Gold, 17 September 2012 09:33)
Go back and read all the comments from less than a year ago when you started to try and parade the poor serbs around the world. Where brags were made as to how the Serbs in the north had a hundred times better life than Albanians and that Pristina had zero control over the north.
of course there have always been the ones who wanted to paint the picture of serbs living behind barbed wire etc. but alas no one could ever find those communities.
Also have not heard of a single rape listed here in B92, how is it occuring daily and you are the only one who knows about it.

@ben:you are showing the "Serbian illness", looking back in the past with little unimportant details. OK, there is the "unsoveld Albanian question" how it is seen in some Western countries too, in 1998 and much earlier was the chance to solve all relevant questions for Serbia, to"sell" Kosovo" and to become very fast for this deal EU-member, but at the end there must be an exchange of people: Albanians are going "home" and Serbs too. The modern states are national states, a poor country like Serbia can NEVER be a kind of "multi-cultural" state, nobody has the money for all the schools, media, culture etc etc. All the countries from the West who are demanding this, would never do so. There are no textbooks in Turkish in Germany or Turkish-speaking civil servants in official affairs. A "Turkish flag-day" would never be accepted (but as fun they can wave in a stadium their flags, but the Turks/Arabs in Germany have the biggest German flags during sports events), its time to weak up for Serbia and to make their home-works, toput together the facts from all developed countries about basics like: what are the real rights of minorities if there are such rights, or: how the other countries are dealing with "demands" from abroad or, how other states are staying all together in key questions and mainly never are showing disputes during visits abroad or or or: good or wrong, my country

That's it. As long as Serbia does not recognize Kosovo's independence, legally can not be nobody else. I hope the day will come when the situation will be resolved on the International Court.

BTW, the media attention of the organ harvesting witness was quite a lot
(Zoran, 16 September 2012 22:03)

the quantity of media attention is not admissible evidence in any court of law, dear, including even the Serbia's courts :)

LOL @ the Sips in this comment section.

A person has to do their own research to get to the truth. And, the truth is very telling, if one cares enough to track it down.
(TruthTeller, 17 September 2012 04:42)
Your last statement is true as they cannot depend on getting it from you.

@nik: You dont know the facts: due to the "West"-German constituninal law it was clear that the West-German governments (all of them) were obliged to work for the unification of Germans in one state. So the West-German parliament has only ratified the treaties with USSR etc together with a special additional letter, confirming this. West-Germany said ONLY in all treaties it will not change the actual situation by the use of force. But it NEVER has recognized the citizenship of East. All East Germans (what many pensioners did during her visits to the West)could get within some minutes a West-German passport. The West-German Justice was investigating "crimes" at the boarder by East German soldiers. The perfect West German bureaucracy was in practise taking all steps to show that Est germany is a part of Germany. What was so easy for Serbia to finalize with Kosovo (Cathasdre or joint boarder management) was after years and years never agreed between the two german states. This was the reason that owners of property on the Eastern side in the West could never get one penny during all the years. This is one aspect Serbia dont understand: property is the key of all real interests. Therefore the West is interested in telecommunication and energy. If the West could find an East German ship in a Dutch port etc, they applied to a Dutch judge to block the ship for other property claims. But I guess that Serbia has not the clever civil servants and not the knowledge in detail.

@Nik again: part1
Getting a bit fed up putting facts straight concerning Germany, in a threat with a different subject.
But let me try it again:
Let me be clear about one thing first: I’m German, (for all generations we’ve been able to research about), born and raised in West-Germany and had the opportunity to experience this “great model of western democracy” until 1983, when I’ve left Germany for good.
Dies land ist unser Land - F.J. Degenhardt
During a major part of its history (contrary to Serbia) Germany has been a loose, con-federal association, of multiple territorial states, regrouped in the “Holy Roman Germanic Empire”. It was a long road to the creation of the German Empire in 1871, and even longer, to the actual Federal republic of Germany, which emerged only in 1945.
So you tell me that Germany’s (or rather the allied forces) decision was about “political independence and economic protection”?
You’re all wrong again!

Truth be told, Kosovo post-1999 is a basket case, infected with all sorts of crime, and that's what drives the so-called economy. It's a pathetic, intolerant place, where extremist Muslims rule. I suppose the best pals are USA, who backed the crime and corruption, in order install their large military base there, Camp Bondsteel, on land expropriated from local farmers. A person has to do their own research to get to the truth. And, the truth is very telling, if one cares enough to track it down.

Joachim, the Soviet Union offered the Germans unification if West Germany left NATO. To prove they are sincere they actually pulled out of Austria. But here comes the geniousity of the Chancellor Adenauer. He was well aware that Germany too much of an exporting power to be neutral. It needed markets (without them its economy would collapse overnight). And it must not be allowed to rely on its own defence, becouse its economic necessities for a larger free market zone will colide with the neighbors desire from political independence and economic protection. So the unification could wait. NATO and the emerging Common Market (later EEC and EU) were essential for Germany. You are right when you say that the Treaty was signed with the Soviet Union and Poland. By that Treaty Germany recognized that East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia, hitheroto reffered as German lands under Polish and Soviet administration were lost forever.The Germans made that recognition not becouse they did not believe that those lands belonged to them, but because the demographic changes that had taken place made their returning to Germany possible only if a new large scale ethnic cleansing took place. So those lands, not the GDR are the German equivalent of Kosovo. Hnas Dietrich Genscher clearly stated the German objectives: FDG,GDR and Berlin. After 1999 a smart Serbian tactic would have been how to preserve the Union with Montenegro, formally or not integrate RS and get rid of Kosovo.

@ Nik again: part2

Germany at this time (Today?) had no political independence. Even De Gaulle qualified Germany as the US Trojan horse.
Regarding economic independence, as a consequence of this badly advised choice to refuse re-unification and neutrality, end of the 70’s about 70% of German key industry were owned by US capital. So, how about achievement of economical independence?
NATO as auxiliary force of US hegemony pre-disposed German territory as the future battle ground of an East-West war to come. Cool 
During this time, we lived the cold war, even in our classrooms. One day to the other, a professor, supposed to be sympathetic to communist ideas, only because he participated in a demonstration, was no longer there. Interdicted of exercise of his profession, as thousands of others…
Our newspaper was told that it will be censored if we don’t censor ourselves, etc.

@ Nik again: part3

Things got worse when people got murdered (Rudi Dutschke, Benno Ohnesorg, etc.) and the extra- parliamentary opposition, split into two camps. Proxy groups like the fascists Turkish “Grey Wolves” helped spread terror. Ok, please spare me the rest of this story…
So much about democracy, liberty of opinion and human rights…
No, East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia are not to compare to the southern Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija but rather to Serbian Kraijna! And, believe me or not, associations of refugees from those regions are still considered as a thorn in the side of “official” German foreign policies.
Cheers

Indeed.With GDP increases grown at an annual average of 10% in the last decade (currently 7.5%),with a sovereign wealth fund worth $3 trillion and $3.8 trillion reserves and with a five-year plan (2011-15) aiming to invest $1.5tn (5% of GDP) in strategic new, mainly "green", industries, energy-saving and environmentally friendly technologies, biotechnology, advanced manufacturing, and alternative-fuel cars the Chinese leaders won't be able to sleep at night.

Comparing the above to Western countries you have ignorance, arrogance and narrow minded politicians who are as much a cause of your problems as anything else. Truly the Idiocracy has arrived.
(Leonidas, 17 September 2012 13:54)

Dear Leonidas, you just forgot to also mention the average Chinese who lives in poverty compared to the average Greek, let alone the other Western countries which are keeping Greece afloat. Indeed, because of all of this, that's why we see millions of people trying to emigrate to the Chinese paradise :)

So don't give me this nonsense that you care. You're just obsessed with Kosovo. You can't see the real picture.
(I'm a Serb, a Croat and a Muslim, 17 September 2012 11:00)
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Oh I see the real picture.
Serbs is Kosovo are in a very desperate situation, much more desperate than Serbs anywhere in Serbia so they must be a priority.

If you live in Serbia and are safe there why don't you spare a thought for the poor intimidated, terrorized Serbs in Kosovo? Are you that selfish?
There will always be people in need of help in any country but we must get our priorities straight here.
If you disagree, you are more than welcome to write to the president and tell him how unimpressed you are.

Just in case Mr. Nikollic has not heard, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to keep a territory that your party tried to exterminate a whole ethnic group out of.
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Are you still peddling that BS? This is not what Serbs tried to do. All they tried to do is stop terror against their people there.

I have to disagree with you on that one. It is possible to keep the territory you ethnically clensed. You are doing it right now and Croatia has kept Krajina.

Oh really? The Serbs just tried to stop the terror against their people?
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Yes Ben, that is exactly what happened. Unfortunately innocent people get caught up in war especially when your cowards (KLA) don't mind hiding under their mothers' skirts.
There is no denying that your lot has terrorized our people for decades before Milosevic said ENOUGH.
Unfortunately he didn't go about it in a clever way.