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Saturday, 15.09.2012.

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Prime Minister Dačić: Nothing new in West

Prime Minister Ivica Dačić says that Serbia needs to "act skillfully" in order to be accepted into the EU without having to "verify Kosovo's independence".

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ralence

pre 11 godina

The West is treating Balkan politicians like they are all Morons and that is mistake which they never learn from Othomans & Austro-Hungerians.Germans are off the leash again.Are they marching towards East again.!!!

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 16 September 2012 14:02)

You seem to read a lot into my postings, but unfortunately we only get a limited amount of words to explain. Tadic was the west’s tool to make it all happen. He was to recognise Kosovo; he was the one who allowed NATO troops to open fire on Serb protestors, and it was tadic who kept the north from voting, but Tadic is gone. It was all about time and if you think that having so called customs is a win then good luck to your Albanians because you have no control over the north whatsoever so there goes your first myth.

Kosovo can attend meeting but it must carry the footnote around its neck like a cow carries a bell – so much for your independence. The ICJ decision is a classic joke the in legal world – as I said before it like saying a woman is half pregnant and again it was Tadic that was at the centre of that one.

The EU is finished as we know it and it will come even more under Putin’s control once South stream comes on line and where is Kosovo? Like a little island of moving nowhere and watch as Serbia attracts more and more industry nearer to Kosovo, but your Albanians will not be allowed to find work.

The UN will not change because if ti odes it will mean France and UK are out. It always the west that claims the Un is ineffective when it does not get its way.

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 16 September 2012 11:36
Sometimes, I have to question whether you are a sarcastic Albanian poking fun at Serbs or just plain naive. Serb leaders have been masters at getting what they want from the west and Pristina.
They were able to get customs control in the north, which UNMIK could not do in 9 years.
They were able to keep the north from having state sanctioned elections.
They were able to get it to where Kosovo could attend regional meetings on their own behalf with Serbia
They have gotten the ICJ to say that the UDI was not in violation of international law.
and the list goes on and on and on.
However, I too believe there will be some sort of restructuring of the EU, as there will either be a restructuring of the UN or it will simply become a once a year tea party for leaders of the world to come together and compare pictures of the grandchildren. It has proven itself a totally ineffective and powerless organization.

Miki

pre 11 godina

PM has certainly not read Remarque's novel '' Nothing New On The Western Front''; instead, he has listened to Bora Čorba's song' Nothing New---.Once again,he verbalizes his poor knowledge in economy and points out his populist mantra that Serbia will not (bend its backbone)comply with IMF and take advise from Fiscal Council.He acts as if ''he were not from here'', as if he had not participated in the former government having the post of Vice prime minister.He raises his voice while addressing to journalists pointing out his determination of being ready to implement Serbia's interests. He presumes that Vučic's endeavor to struggle and expose criminals is an attempt to demonize SPS

MIchael

pre 11 godina

The PM is a master of great words in the public, behind the scenery is a brave servant for other interests. What is Belgards embassy in Berlin doing, not to prepare a visit of German politicians, not to inform the Serbs about the real opinion towards Serbia? If I see the real situation I will not welcome these Germans in Belgrade on high level. Such Serbian MPs would in Berlin had a little coffee-break with other MPs of theier level and possibly a head of a department for Serbian affairs within the Foreign Office. NO German daiy would take notice of such a visit. And if somebody would come here, inclusive US etc, with public demands or conditions, there would be clear signal to a fast farewell. The media would play the same type of music. There is more unity and dignity like in Serbia where a little Serbian mayor in Kosovo os proud to present photos with Western visitors and the possibility that he can call "Hashim" directely. The Serbian PM has not the full power in his own government where is first deputy is so proud now to be accepted in a little B-movie. There is no coordination, no idea about the next steps, nothing.

Eagleeye

pre 11 godina

VRANJE -- Prime Minister Ivica Dačić says that Serbia needs to "act skillfully" in order to be accepted into the EU without having to "verify Kosovo's independence".

We will sneak in and become a member without the EU realising this. And then we can borrow all the money we need to keep the country affloat than i can put some money aside to buy the new AUDI A5 And then we woke up and realised this was a dream. It is good to dream.

sj

pre 11 godina

Ha ha ha.Act skillfully?Dude you are old enough to know that you cannot outsmart the people that have invented diplomacy and rule this planet.For as long as Serbia leaves on handouts from the EU or Russia the only "skill" that you will show is obedience. Now keep showing the Serbs how you "skillfully" going to deceive them.
(Mark, 15 September 2012 23:22)
I am curious to know under which tree did you just fall from? Dacic is jerking the west’s chains. Serbia will not join the EU, or what’s left of it, now or in 50 years time. You fool yourself about western diplomacy as even a child can run around them and often does and all you have to is parrot what they want to hear – how do you think this Kosovo business has been going on for now the 13 years with no resolution.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

it looks like the US and UK have had enough of the mess in KiM and have now left it to the chief architects, zee Germans.

(Zoran, 15 September 2012 21:02)
If the US misses a day of someone getting on a podium and saying the same thing, you and comrades jump on the wagon of saying the US is tired of dealing with Kosovo. The thing is the US is tired of dealing with Serbia. The position of the US has not changed one cm in the last 4 years(not a statement Serbia can say) there is no need to say it day after day after day. the fact is there is nothing new to say. Serbia knows the US stance the US reinforces that stance when necessary.
Look at how the Serbs perceive the Germans, everyday it is total shock, the message is officially the EU cannot demand Serbian recognition of Kosovo, however each state can require what they want to in exchange for their vote. The German stance has not changed either. I know that is a sudden shock for you, after all you have only heard it maybe 2000 times but quickly dismiss it and each time it is a new shock.

Berk.

pre 11 godina

Serbian liars, there are tons of articles where Serbs stated that recognition is no condition, even though many explained that these is just a mere lie. And now Dacic crawls from his hole just to tell that this "is not new". Haha,... you just needed to be often enough b**** slapped.

Sergei

pre 11 godina

Belgrade is also expected to make visible progress in the investigation and prosecution of the attack and arson at the German Embassy in Belgrade in February 2008 following Berlin's recognition of Kosovo's independence.

as well as to arrest whom ever trimmed Gavrilo Princip's mustache on the way to Cumuja Bridge and who supplied Josip Broz with slivovitz from '41 through '44. Concentrate on Khartoum, Fritz.

Mark

pre 11 godina

Prime Minister Ivica Dačić says that Serbia needs to "act skillfully" in order to be accepted into the EU without having to "verify Kosovo's independence".

Ha ha ha.Act skillfully?Dude you are old enough to know that you cannot outsmart the people that have invented diplomacy and rule this planet.For as long as Serbia leaves on handouts from the EU or Russia the only "skill" that you will show is obedience. Now keep showing the Serbs how you "skillfully" going to deceive them.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Germany also wants a backrub, a cup of tea, some new shoes, a 50% discount on Serbian pork products, and to be called "Liebschen" from time to time. Maybe we can also let them build a new embassy on the site of the national library they bombed in 1941 and let them call Belgrade "Prinzeugenstadt".

Michael

pre 11 godina

Belgrade-based daily Danas, which quotes its unnamed sources "from the top of the German ruling coalition"...this is the way Serbian media are informing their own people, more as desinformation from "unnamed sources". You will find endless reports about foreign demands but not an open discussion about the long-term policy towards Kosovo and the EU. There is only one way for Serbia: forget all demands and wait 20 years. Then you will see how the situation of the EU is. Serbia should develop for the country what is now under discussion in the EU for Greece: to develop Serbia as a Special Economic Zone with no or very low taxes. And Serbia should not forget how it worked many years ago between East and West. It was like between connected tubes: if there was done against Wset-Berlin, it cam back against Cuba etc. And if the Serbs in Kosovo are missing electricity or water, it could happen also in the area of Presevo. Only hard facts are leading to solutions. Serbia should listen to the old advise of Ronald Reagan, asked once, how you should cook little fishes. His answer was: dont move them too often. And so Serbia should not move things too often in the Kosovo case. If Kosovo can enter the UN-everything is over for Serbia-forever

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Zee Germans want this and zee Germans want that... LOL!! In a way, it looks like the US and UK have had enough of the mess in KiM and have now left it to the chief architects, zee Germans.

Well, the plan is on a shaky foundation just like their EU project... so now it's time for some ultimatums that will further destabilise matters. The people are watching and waiting... no silly moves please... :)

Brian

pre 11 godina

Serbia is already verifying kosovo independence all the time. Going to conferences for countries where Kosovo is there as a country, eliminated the kosovo ministry, the education deal with a group that says kosovo is not a part of serbia, the un resolution passed in 2010 and a lot of other things even small things like competing at the world ploughing championships where kosovo is as an independent country with no words about and the serb there saying kosovo is not a part of serbia.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Listen to the wallet patriot Dodik he said abandon Serbs south of Mitrovica river. Stop paying Serbs in Kosovo to be Serbs and stop subsidizing them also stop paying princes Preshtinas international debts. Then he says redirect the money too imaginary ghost entity Srpska like in the good old days. He is so sorry for supporting the loser side in Belgrade politics. He will be good from now on if you take his advice and rush the money to the bottomless sink hole of "Srpska" if not he will not be a good CCCC Serb.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Berlin also wants Belgrade to consistently encourage Serbs in northern Kosovo to cooperate with EULEX and KFOR.
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Probably Germany believes that northern Kosovo is Serbian territory where Serbia has influence.

Germany doen't seem to believe that n.Kosovo is governed by Prishtina and Kosovo*.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

The longer it takes for Serbia to recognize Kosova the longer it will take for the people of Serbia to enjoy a decent life. When its politicians feel threatened by the desperation of the citizens of Serbia, then they will act, but it will probably be too late. Serbs must wake up and realize what the reason is for their suffering. They need only look to the motley crew in Belgrade attempting to be a government.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 September 2012 19:07)

It's interesting how all Albanians here care about Serbian well being much more than about their own.

Lets try to see the problem under different angle: No Sebia in EU - no Kosovo* in EU. So, the longer it takes Prishtina to negotiate compromize solution the longer it will take the Kalbs to enjoy a decent life.

Now KAlbs want too much thus block region progress.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Why is there such pressure on Serbia to verify something that the hyenas on here continue to tell us over and over is a done deal? Read between the lines, the West has lost interest in the Balkans and by what is going on not only in the Middle East but also territorial disputes between China and Japan, the last thing that will be on the minds of the West in the years to come will be the Balkans.

The West needs to save face so they can't leave this without 'solving' the Balkans and are in a rush to do so. Hence the pressure on Serbia is enhanced but Serbia should not listen. Our holy province is more important than the EU without a doubt.

Wait it out, the occupational institutions are not building themselves into anything credible. Most of the money that is in Kosovo i Metohija (apart the money from heroin, organs and child prostitutes) come from donations by Western NGO's. And it is literally investing into a black hole which is what the Christian province has become since the occupation.

Until the time comes for liberation, just say no and use political and legal means to preserve the Serbian government and church institutions in the temporarily occupied holy province.

Analyst

pre 11 godina

"Andreas Schockenhoff, a member of the Bundestag and a high-ranking official of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), the party led by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, stated that Germany expected ...."

Never heard of this guy, must be extremely 'high ranking'. Probably 95% of the Germans don't even know him. German Wikipedia says he's 'famous' for causing traffic accidents because of driving when being drunk.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The longer it takes for Serbia to recognize Kosova the longer it will take for the people of Serbia to enjoy a decent life. When its politicians feel threatened by the desperation of the citizens of Serbia, then they will act, but it will probably be too late. Serbs must wake up and realize what the reason is for their suffering. They need only look to the motley crew in Belgrade attempting to be a government.

Mike Canada

pre 11 godina

what a waste of article, if you don't recognize Kosovo you will not enter EU, ITS SIMPLE AS THAT
(eric, 15 September 2012 17:21)
And that would be the best thing for Serbia. EU I mean Germany will take Serbia for what its got left and leave it to rot... At least if Serbia does not join the EU this way they can salvage of what ever is left. And once again show the middle finger to the Germans.

Analyst

pre 11 godina

"Andreas Schockenhoff, a member of the Bundestag and a high-ranking official of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), the party led by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, stated that Germany expected ...."

Never heard of this guy, must be extremely 'high ranking'. Probably 95% of the Germans don't even know him. German Wikipedia says he's 'famous' for causing traffic accidents because of driving when being drunk.

Mike Canada

pre 11 godina

what a waste of article, if you don't recognize Kosovo you will not enter EU, ITS SIMPLE AS THAT
(eric, 15 September 2012 17:21)
And that would be the best thing for Serbia. EU I mean Germany will take Serbia for what its got left and leave it to rot... At least if Serbia does not join the EU this way they can salvage of what ever is left. And once again show the middle finger to the Germans.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The longer it takes for Serbia to recognize Kosova the longer it will take for the people of Serbia to enjoy a decent life. When its politicians feel threatened by the desperation of the citizens of Serbia, then they will act, but it will probably be too late. Serbs must wake up and realize what the reason is for their suffering. They need only look to the motley crew in Belgrade attempting to be a government.

Mark

pre 11 godina

Prime Minister Ivica Dačić says that Serbia needs to "act skillfully" in order to be accepted into the EU without having to "verify Kosovo's independence".

Ha ha ha.Act skillfully?Dude you are old enough to know that you cannot outsmart the people that have invented diplomacy and rule this planet.For as long as Serbia leaves on handouts from the EU or Russia the only "skill" that you will show is obedience. Now keep showing the Serbs how you "skillfully" going to deceive them.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Why is there such pressure on Serbia to verify something that the hyenas on here continue to tell us over and over is a done deal? Read between the lines, the West has lost interest in the Balkans and by what is going on not only in the Middle East but also territorial disputes between China and Japan, the last thing that will be on the minds of the West in the years to come will be the Balkans.

The West needs to save face so they can't leave this without 'solving' the Balkans and are in a rush to do so. Hence the pressure on Serbia is enhanced but Serbia should not listen. Our holy province is more important than the EU without a doubt.

Wait it out, the occupational institutions are not building themselves into anything credible. Most of the money that is in Kosovo i Metohija (apart the money from heroin, organs and child prostitutes) come from donations by Western NGO's. And it is literally investing into a black hole which is what the Christian province has become since the occupation.

Until the time comes for liberation, just say no and use political and legal means to preserve the Serbian government and church institutions in the temporarily occupied holy province.

Brian

pre 11 godina

Serbia is already verifying kosovo independence all the time. Going to conferences for countries where Kosovo is there as a country, eliminated the kosovo ministry, the education deal with a group that says kosovo is not a part of serbia, the un resolution passed in 2010 and a lot of other things even small things like competing at the world ploughing championships where kosovo is as an independent country with no words about and the serb there saying kosovo is not a part of serbia.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Listen to the wallet patriot Dodik he said abandon Serbs south of Mitrovica river. Stop paying Serbs in Kosovo to be Serbs and stop subsidizing them also stop paying princes Preshtinas international debts. Then he says redirect the money too imaginary ghost entity Srpska like in the good old days. He is so sorry for supporting the loser side in Belgrade politics. He will be good from now on if you take his advice and rush the money to the bottomless sink hole of "Srpska" if not he will not be a good CCCC Serb.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Germany also wants a backrub, a cup of tea, some new shoes, a 50% discount on Serbian pork products, and to be called "Liebschen" from time to time. Maybe we can also let them build a new embassy on the site of the national library they bombed in 1941 and let them call Belgrade "Prinzeugenstadt".

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Zee Germans want this and zee Germans want that... LOL!! In a way, it looks like the US and UK have had enough of the mess in KiM and have now left it to the chief architects, zee Germans.

Well, the plan is on a shaky foundation just like their EU project... so now it's time for some ultimatums that will further destabilise matters. The people are watching and waiting... no silly moves please... :)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Berlin also wants Belgrade to consistently encourage Serbs in northern Kosovo to cooperate with EULEX and KFOR.
----------------
Probably Germany believes that northern Kosovo is Serbian territory where Serbia has influence.

Germany doen't seem to believe that n.Kosovo is governed by Prishtina and Kosovo*.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

The longer it takes for Serbia to recognize Kosova the longer it will take for the people of Serbia to enjoy a decent life. When its politicians feel threatened by the desperation of the citizens of Serbia, then they will act, but it will probably be too late. Serbs must wake up and realize what the reason is for their suffering. They need only look to the motley crew in Belgrade attempting to be a government.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 September 2012 19:07)

It's interesting how all Albanians here care about Serbian well being much more than about their own.

Lets try to see the problem under different angle: No Sebia in EU - no Kosovo* in EU. So, the longer it takes Prishtina to negotiate compromize solution the longer it will take the Kalbs to enjoy a decent life.

Now KAlbs want too much thus block region progress.

Michael

pre 11 godina

Belgrade-based daily Danas, which quotes its unnamed sources "from the top of the German ruling coalition"...this is the way Serbian media are informing their own people, more as desinformation from "unnamed sources". You will find endless reports about foreign demands but not an open discussion about the long-term policy towards Kosovo and the EU. There is only one way for Serbia: forget all demands and wait 20 years. Then you will see how the situation of the EU is. Serbia should develop for the country what is now under discussion in the EU for Greece: to develop Serbia as a Special Economic Zone with no or very low taxes. And Serbia should not forget how it worked many years ago between East and West. It was like between connected tubes: if there was done against Wset-Berlin, it cam back against Cuba etc. And if the Serbs in Kosovo are missing electricity or water, it could happen also in the area of Presevo. Only hard facts are leading to solutions. Serbia should listen to the old advise of Ronald Reagan, asked once, how you should cook little fishes. His answer was: dont move them too often. And so Serbia should not move things too often in the Kosovo case. If Kosovo can enter the UN-everything is over for Serbia-forever

Sergei

pre 11 godina

Belgrade is also expected to make visible progress in the investigation and prosecution of the attack and arson at the German Embassy in Belgrade in February 2008 following Berlin's recognition of Kosovo's independence.

as well as to arrest whom ever trimmed Gavrilo Princip's mustache on the way to Cumuja Bridge and who supplied Josip Broz with slivovitz from '41 through '44. Concentrate on Khartoum, Fritz.

Berk.

pre 11 godina

Serbian liars, there are tons of articles where Serbs stated that recognition is no condition, even though many explained that these is just a mere lie. And now Dacic crawls from his hole just to tell that this "is not new". Haha,... you just needed to be often enough b**** slapped.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

it looks like the US and UK have had enough of the mess in KiM and have now left it to the chief architects, zee Germans.

(Zoran, 15 September 2012 21:02)
If the US misses a day of someone getting on a podium and saying the same thing, you and comrades jump on the wagon of saying the US is tired of dealing with Kosovo. The thing is the US is tired of dealing with Serbia. The position of the US has not changed one cm in the last 4 years(not a statement Serbia can say) there is no need to say it day after day after day. the fact is there is nothing new to say. Serbia knows the US stance the US reinforces that stance when necessary.
Look at how the Serbs perceive the Germans, everyday it is total shock, the message is officially the EU cannot demand Serbian recognition of Kosovo, however each state can require what they want to in exchange for their vote. The German stance has not changed either. I know that is a sudden shock for you, after all you have only heard it maybe 2000 times but quickly dismiss it and each time it is a new shock.

Miki

pre 11 godina

PM has certainly not read Remarque's novel '' Nothing New On The Western Front''; instead, he has listened to Bora Čorba's song' Nothing New---.Once again,he verbalizes his poor knowledge in economy and points out his populist mantra that Serbia will not (bend its backbone)comply with IMF and take advise from Fiscal Council.He acts as if ''he were not from here'', as if he had not participated in the former government having the post of Vice prime minister.He raises his voice while addressing to journalists pointing out his determination of being ready to implement Serbia's interests. He presumes that Vučic's endeavor to struggle and expose criminals is an attempt to demonize SPS

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 16 September 2012 11:36
Sometimes, I have to question whether you are a sarcastic Albanian poking fun at Serbs or just plain naive. Serb leaders have been masters at getting what they want from the west and Pristina.
They were able to get customs control in the north, which UNMIK could not do in 9 years.
They were able to keep the north from having state sanctioned elections.
They were able to get it to where Kosovo could attend regional meetings on their own behalf with Serbia
They have gotten the ICJ to say that the UDI was not in violation of international law.
and the list goes on and on and on.
However, I too believe there will be some sort of restructuring of the EU, as there will either be a restructuring of the UN or it will simply become a once a year tea party for leaders of the world to come together and compare pictures of the grandchildren. It has proven itself a totally ineffective and powerless organization.

sj

pre 11 godina

Ha ha ha.Act skillfully?Dude you are old enough to know that you cannot outsmart the people that have invented diplomacy and rule this planet.For as long as Serbia leaves on handouts from the EU or Russia the only "skill" that you will show is obedience. Now keep showing the Serbs how you "skillfully" going to deceive them.
(Mark, 15 September 2012 23:22)
I am curious to know under which tree did you just fall from? Dacic is jerking the west’s chains. Serbia will not join the EU, or what’s left of it, now or in 50 years time. You fool yourself about western diplomacy as even a child can run around them and often does and all you have to is parrot what they want to hear – how do you think this Kosovo business has been going on for now the 13 years with no resolution.

Eagleeye

pre 11 godina

VRANJE -- Prime Minister Ivica Dačić says that Serbia needs to "act skillfully" in order to be accepted into the EU without having to "verify Kosovo's independence".

We will sneak in and become a member without the EU realising this. And then we can borrow all the money we need to keep the country affloat than i can put some money aside to buy the new AUDI A5 And then we woke up and realised this was a dream. It is good to dream.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 16 September 2012 14:02)

You seem to read a lot into my postings, but unfortunately we only get a limited amount of words to explain. Tadic was the west’s tool to make it all happen. He was to recognise Kosovo; he was the one who allowed NATO troops to open fire on Serb protestors, and it was tadic who kept the north from voting, but Tadic is gone. It was all about time and if you think that having so called customs is a win then good luck to your Albanians because you have no control over the north whatsoever so there goes your first myth.

Kosovo can attend meeting but it must carry the footnote around its neck like a cow carries a bell – so much for your independence. The ICJ decision is a classic joke the in legal world – as I said before it like saying a woman is half pregnant and again it was Tadic that was at the centre of that one.

The EU is finished as we know it and it will come even more under Putin’s control once South stream comes on line and where is Kosovo? Like a little island of moving nowhere and watch as Serbia attracts more and more industry nearer to Kosovo, but your Albanians will not be allowed to find work.

The UN will not change because if ti odes it will mean France and UK are out. It always the west that claims the Un is ineffective when it does not get its way.

MIchael

pre 11 godina

The PM is a master of great words in the public, behind the scenery is a brave servant for other interests. What is Belgards embassy in Berlin doing, not to prepare a visit of German politicians, not to inform the Serbs about the real opinion towards Serbia? If I see the real situation I will not welcome these Germans in Belgrade on high level. Such Serbian MPs would in Berlin had a little coffee-break with other MPs of theier level and possibly a head of a department for Serbian affairs within the Foreign Office. NO German daiy would take notice of such a visit. And if somebody would come here, inclusive US etc, with public demands or conditions, there would be clear signal to a fast farewell. The media would play the same type of music. There is more unity and dignity like in Serbia where a little Serbian mayor in Kosovo os proud to present photos with Western visitors and the possibility that he can call "Hashim" directely. The Serbian PM has not the full power in his own government where is first deputy is so proud now to be accepted in a little B-movie. There is no coordination, no idea about the next steps, nothing.

ralence

pre 11 godina

The West is treating Balkan politicians like they are all Morons and that is mistake which they never learn from Othomans & Austro-Hungerians.Germans are off the leash again.Are they marching towards East again.!!!

Mike Canada

pre 11 godina

what a waste of article, if you don't recognize Kosovo you will not enter EU, ITS SIMPLE AS THAT
(eric, 15 September 2012 17:21)
And that would be the best thing for Serbia. EU I mean Germany will take Serbia for what its got left and leave it to rot... At least if Serbia does not join the EU this way they can salvage of what ever is left. And once again show the middle finger to the Germans.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The longer it takes for Serbia to recognize Kosova the longer it will take for the people of Serbia to enjoy a decent life. When its politicians feel threatened by the desperation of the citizens of Serbia, then they will act, but it will probably be too late. Serbs must wake up and realize what the reason is for their suffering. They need only look to the motley crew in Belgrade attempting to be a government.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Why is there such pressure on Serbia to verify something that the hyenas on here continue to tell us over and over is a done deal? Read between the lines, the West has lost interest in the Balkans and by what is going on not only in the Middle East but also territorial disputes between China and Japan, the last thing that will be on the minds of the West in the years to come will be the Balkans.

The West needs to save face so they can't leave this without 'solving' the Balkans and are in a rush to do so. Hence the pressure on Serbia is enhanced but Serbia should not listen. Our holy province is more important than the EU without a doubt.

Wait it out, the occupational institutions are not building themselves into anything credible. Most of the money that is in Kosovo i Metohija (apart the money from heroin, organs and child prostitutes) come from donations by Western NGO's. And it is literally investing into a black hole which is what the Christian province has become since the occupation.

Until the time comes for liberation, just say no and use political and legal means to preserve the Serbian government and church institutions in the temporarily occupied holy province.

Analyst

pre 11 godina

"Andreas Schockenhoff, a member of the Bundestag and a high-ranking official of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), the party led by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, stated that Germany expected ...."

Never heard of this guy, must be extremely 'high ranking'. Probably 95% of the Germans don't even know him. German Wikipedia says he's 'famous' for causing traffic accidents because of driving when being drunk.

Lenard

pre 11 godina

Listen to the wallet patriot Dodik he said abandon Serbs south of Mitrovica river. Stop paying Serbs in Kosovo to be Serbs and stop subsidizing them also stop paying princes Preshtinas international debts. Then he says redirect the money too imaginary ghost entity Srpska like in the good old days. He is so sorry for supporting the loser side in Belgrade politics. He will be good from now on if you take his advice and rush the money to the bottomless sink hole of "Srpska" if not he will not be a good CCCC Serb.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

Zee Germans want this and zee Germans want that... LOL!! In a way, it looks like the US and UK have had enough of the mess in KiM and have now left it to the chief architects, zee Germans.

Well, the plan is on a shaky foundation just like their EU project... so now it's time for some ultimatums that will further destabilise matters. The people are watching and waiting... no silly moves please... :)

Mark

pre 11 godina

Prime Minister Ivica Dačić says that Serbia needs to "act skillfully" in order to be accepted into the EU without having to "verify Kosovo's independence".

Ha ha ha.Act skillfully?Dude you are old enough to know that you cannot outsmart the people that have invented diplomacy and rule this planet.For as long as Serbia leaves on handouts from the EU or Russia the only "skill" that you will show is obedience. Now keep showing the Serbs how you "skillfully" going to deceive them.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Berlin also wants Belgrade to consistently encourage Serbs in northern Kosovo to cooperate with EULEX and KFOR.
----------------
Probably Germany believes that northern Kosovo is Serbian territory where Serbia has influence.

Germany doen't seem to believe that n.Kosovo is governed by Prishtina and Kosovo*.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

The longer it takes for Serbia to recognize Kosova the longer it will take for the people of Serbia to enjoy a decent life. When its politicians feel threatened by the desperation of the citizens of Serbia, then they will act, but it will probably be too late. Serbs must wake up and realize what the reason is for their suffering. They need only look to the motley crew in Belgrade attempting to be a government.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 September 2012 19:07)

It's interesting how all Albanians here care about Serbian well being much more than about their own.

Lets try to see the problem under different angle: No Sebia in EU - no Kosovo* in EU. So, the longer it takes Prishtina to negotiate compromize solution the longer it will take the Kalbs to enjoy a decent life.

Now KAlbs want too much thus block region progress.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Germany also wants a backrub, a cup of tea, some new shoes, a 50% discount on Serbian pork products, and to be called "Liebschen" from time to time. Maybe we can also let them build a new embassy on the site of the national library they bombed in 1941 and let them call Belgrade "Prinzeugenstadt".

Brian

pre 11 godina

Serbia is already verifying kosovo independence all the time. Going to conferences for countries where Kosovo is there as a country, eliminated the kosovo ministry, the education deal with a group that says kosovo is not a part of serbia, the un resolution passed in 2010 and a lot of other things even small things like competing at the world ploughing championships where kosovo is as an independent country with no words about and the serb there saying kosovo is not a part of serbia.

Michael

pre 11 godina

Belgrade-based daily Danas, which quotes its unnamed sources "from the top of the German ruling coalition"...this is the way Serbian media are informing their own people, more as desinformation from "unnamed sources". You will find endless reports about foreign demands but not an open discussion about the long-term policy towards Kosovo and the EU. There is only one way for Serbia: forget all demands and wait 20 years. Then you will see how the situation of the EU is. Serbia should develop for the country what is now under discussion in the EU for Greece: to develop Serbia as a Special Economic Zone with no or very low taxes. And Serbia should not forget how it worked many years ago between East and West. It was like between connected tubes: if there was done against Wset-Berlin, it cam back against Cuba etc. And if the Serbs in Kosovo are missing electricity or water, it could happen also in the area of Presevo. Only hard facts are leading to solutions. Serbia should listen to the old advise of Ronald Reagan, asked once, how you should cook little fishes. His answer was: dont move them too often. And so Serbia should not move things too often in the Kosovo case. If Kosovo can enter the UN-everything is over for Serbia-forever

Sergei

pre 11 godina

Belgrade is also expected to make visible progress in the investigation and prosecution of the attack and arson at the German Embassy in Belgrade in February 2008 following Berlin's recognition of Kosovo's independence.

as well as to arrest whom ever trimmed Gavrilo Princip's mustache on the way to Cumuja Bridge and who supplied Josip Broz with slivovitz from '41 through '44. Concentrate on Khartoum, Fritz.

Berk.

pre 11 godina

Serbian liars, there are tons of articles where Serbs stated that recognition is no condition, even though many explained that these is just a mere lie. And now Dacic crawls from his hole just to tell that this "is not new". Haha,... you just needed to be often enough b**** slapped.

sj

pre 11 godina

Ha ha ha.Act skillfully?Dude you are old enough to know that you cannot outsmart the people that have invented diplomacy and rule this planet.For as long as Serbia leaves on handouts from the EU or Russia the only "skill" that you will show is obedience. Now keep showing the Serbs how you "skillfully" going to deceive them.
(Mark, 15 September 2012 23:22)
I am curious to know under which tree did you just fall from? Dacic is jerking the west’s chains. Serbia will not join the EU, or what’s left of it, now or in 50 years time. You fool yourself about western diplomacy as even a child can run around them and often does and all you have to is parrot what they want to hear – how do you think this Kosovo business has been going on for now the 13 years with no resolution.

MIchael

pre 11 godina

The PM is a master of great words in the public, behind the scenery is a brave servant for other interests. What is Belgards embassy in Berlin doing, not to prepare a visit of German politicians, not to inform the Serbs about the real opinion towards Serbia? If I see the real situation I will not welcome these Germans in Belgrade on high level. Such Serbian MPs would in Berlin had a little coffee-break with other MPs of theier level and possibly a head of a department for Serbian affairs within the Foreign Office. NO German daiy would take notice of such a visit. And if somebody would come here, inclusive US etc, with public demands or conditions, there would be clear signal to a fast farewell. The media would play the same type of music. There is more unity and dignity like in Serbia where a little Serbian mayor in Kosovo os proud to present photos with Western visitors and the possibility that he can call "Hashim" directely. The Serbian PM has not the full power in his own government where is first deputy is so proud now to be accepted in a little B-movie. There is no coordination, no idea about the next steps, nothing.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

it looks like the US and UK have had enough of the mess in KiM and have now left it to the chief architects, zee Germans.

(Zoran, 15 September 2012 21:02)
If the US misses a day of someone getting on a podium and saying the same thing, you and comrades jump on the wagon of saying the US is tired of dealing with Kosovo. The thing is the US is tired of dealing with Serbia. The position of the US has not changed one cm in the last 4 years(not a statement Serbia can say) there is no need to say it day after day after day. the fact is there is nothing new to say. Serbia knows the US stance the US reinforces that stance when necessary.
Look at how the Serbs perceive the Germans, everyday it is total shock, the message is officially the EU cannot demand Serbian recognition of Kosovo, however each state can require what they want to in exchange for their vote. The German stance has not changed either. I know that is a sudden shock for you, after all you have only heard it maybe 2000 times but quickly dismiss it and each time it is a new shock.

Eagleeye

pre 11 godina

VRANJE -- Prime Minister Ivica Dačić says that Serbia needs to "act skillfully" in order to be accepted into the EU without having to "verify Kosovo's independence".

We will sneak in and become a member without the EU realising this. And then we can borrow all the money we need to keep the country affloat than i can put some money aside to buy the new AUDI A5 And then we woke up and realised this was a dream. It is good to dream.

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 16 September 2012 11:36
Sometimes, I have to question whether you are a sarcastic Albanian poking fun at Serbs or just plain naive. Serb leaders have been masters at getting what they want from the west and Pristina.
They were able to get customs control in the north, which UNMIK could not do in 9 years.
They were able to keep the north from having state sanctioned elections.
They were able to get it to where Kosovo could attend regional meetings on their own behalf with Serbia
They have gotten the ICJ to say that the UDI was not in violation of international law.
and the list goes on and on and on.
However, I too believe there will be some sort of restructuring of the EU, as there will either be a restructuring of the UN or it will simply become a once a year tea party for leaders of the world to come together and compare pictures of the grandchildren. It has proven itself a totally ineffective and powerless organization.

Miki

pre 11 godina

PM has certainly not read Remarque's novel '' Nothing New On The Western Front''; instead, he has listened to Bora Čorba's song' Nothing New---.Once again,he verbalizes his poor knowledge in economy and points out his populist mantra that Serbia will not (bend its backbone)comply with IMF and take advise from Fiscal Council.He acts as if ''he were not from here'', as if he had not participated in the former government having the post of Vice prime minister.He raises his voice while addressing to journalists pointing out his determination of being ready to implement Serbia's interests. He presumes that Vučic's endeavor to struggle and expose criminals is an attempt to demonize SPS

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 16 September 2012 14:02)

You seem to read a lot into my postings, but unfortunately we only get a limited amount of words to explain. Tadic was the west’s tool to make it all happen. He was to recognise Kosovo; he was the one who allowed NATO troops to open fire on Serb protestors, and it was tadic who kept the north from voting, but Tadic is gone. It was all about time and if you think that having so called customs is a win then good luck to your Albanians because you have no control over the north whatsoever so there goes your first myth.

Kosovo can attend meeting but it must carry the footnote around its neck like a cow carries a bell – so much for your independence. The ICJ decision is a classic joke the in legal world – as I said before it like saying a woman is half pregnant and again it was Tadic that was at the centre of that one.

The EU is finished as we know it and it will come even more under Putin’s control once South stream comes on line and where is Kosovo? Like a little island of moving nowhere and watch as Serbia attracts more and more industry nearer to Kosovo, but your Albanians will not be allowed to find work.

The UN will not change because if ti odes it will mean France and UK are out. It always the west that claims the Un is ineffective when it does not get its way.

ralence

pre 11 godina

The West is treating Balkan politicians like they are all Morons and that is mistake which they never learn from Othomans & Austro-Hungerians.Germans are off the leash again.Are they marching towards East again.!!!